Replace the elves in your campaign setting with protoss. Now with over a thousand replies.
Cont'd from >>43708401 and still going strong.
>>43728638
> Drows are replaced with Tal'Darim
Well now Underdark can go screw itself since the real big dogs are in charge now.
>>43728638
>Home brew asian elves
Well our party spell caster is much hotter
>>43728638
posting ayylmao UFOs
So how many on topic posts does it take to fool the janitor before we can start discussing all things starcraft?
>>43729287
I dunno.
serious question though, what happened to the kel morian combine and their stupidly rich planets?
>>43729287
Well, Starcraft is in a state of mutual ripoff with 40k, ergo we can discuss Starcraft on this board.Bit of a stretch though.
>>43729326
Wasn't Valerie Mengsk hiding with them at the beginning of HotS
>>43729326
Jimmy. Swann mentions it at some point in Wings.
>>43729341
There is a board game, though. And it makes a passable rpg setting as well.
>>43729341
> Valerie
Since when did Valerian have a sister?
>>43729390
Well, sometimes she goes out by herself...
I still don't understand why it was either electro-jaguars or megadropship. Those two things don't seem to conflict at all.
>>43729425
On the other hand it would've been quite interesting if Valerian had a sister.
Bonus if she werelike Arcturus, minus the saturday morning cartoon villainy he suffered, and is secretly tsun for him and not so interested in ruling the Dominion.
>>43729524
Don't ask me.
>>43729524
Because they jammed too many fucking units in, so they had at some point have you pick one redundant thing over another.
>>43729598
The Hercules isn't that redundant.
>>43729524
>playing hots on brutal
>life ain't nothing but roaches and hydras
>roll everything
>seriously, the secret strat to every map is 'make tons of dudes and ignore the gimmick'
Is LotV like that as well? Will I find a mix of two units and never build anything else?
>>43729728
deathball m8
>>43729711
It's redundant with drop pods and medivacs. It doesn't heal either and can be shot down with half the population of Luxembourg inside.
>>43729743
Three units, then. Well, balls.
>>43729749
Still it is capable of taking a shitload of people in it.
I always use it along with Medivacs when I get it.
>>43729779
I only played Wings properly (broootal with achievements) once, but honestly I didn't find a role for them that couldn't be filled by medivacs at a fraction of the cost.
>>43729766
On the plus side, the unit evolutions aren't permanent, so you can at least vary it up a bit. One mission you have barbarian zealots and reavers, another you have terminator zealots and single target evil colossi.
>>43729728
The campaigns are designed for people new to the games. The mechanics are largely to teach you a bit about multiplayer mechanics.
You can roll any map simply by out macroing everything, with any strategy (excluding anything silly like all zerglings against an air army, but I don't think there are scenarios like that anyways)
>>43730845
The single player mechanics differ significantly from the multiplayer ones, so no. That's what the training/guide/whatever missions are for.
>>43728724
Would you a protoss?
>>43731307
Yes
>>43731307
Are you saying you wouldn't?
>>43731287
Sure, in total, but each one teaches you the mechanics of a unit for the most part. They are training modes, and often the first thing recommended to new players to do in order to git gud.
>>43731307
The question is, would a protoss me?
>>43728817
Are aberrations really that puny?
>>43731307
As if there was any doubt.
Selendis a QT.
>>43731768
She doesn't have those weird antenna anymore in LotV, I don't think.
There is a surprising lack of Selendis porn, actually not much protoss porn in general. I didn't know this was something I needed.
>>43732561
*Selendis was a QT.
>>43732716
I should have a 3d model of her done in the near future.
>>43732929
>was
The antennas seemed weird to me. They're not nerve cords, it's like they're coming off her crest.
>>43732929
Godspeed my good man!
Just finished the campaign. Holy hell that was stupid. And not only stupid, but surprisingly anticlimactic. Oh wow, phoenix force kerrigan outta nowhere. Whoopde doo. The lazy fucks didn't even give us a proper ending cutscene, just a goddamn slideshow. Fun game, slightly better overall story than HoTS, but goddamn someone please shoot Chris Metzen already.
>>43733033
One of these days I'll learn how to use the map editor and create my own sequel. But not today.
>>43733033
I was so looking forward to seeing more of Selendis and she gets sidelined pretty much the entire game by Amon's mind control. It's not just about having a female Protoss to waifu over, either; Rohana and Vorazun were both kind of huge bitches, Selendis actually came across as an interesting character when she appeared in Wings of Liberty.
Obviously, that's the least of the problems but it still bums me out.
>>43732967
For all I know they're purely decorational. Or weird unique features to her physiology, like that stupid goddamn beard of engineer protoss guy in LotV. Not like we've seen many female protoss anyways.
>>43733033
>>43733232
I'd really like to see people hammer out an alternative SC2 storyline. Remove lovy dovy Metzen garbage with Jim and Kerrigan, and focus more on the grungy survival mode of all the races, and it's already a million times better.
>>43733232
I liked Vorazun, her grievance with Zeratul was pretty legitimate and she got a lot more mellow without it seeming like an asspull, unlike Rohana, who was rigid and infexible for plot reasons and then turned a 180 after Artanis's big speech after her plot importance was done. I'd have been happy to trade HER in for Selendis; it would have been nice to see her interacting with Raynor again.
>>43733296
The protoss building portrait also has a beard-like thing framing his face, and I think it's been there since WoL, so it's not like they pulled it out of nowhere for Karax. Since the building portrait is probably some other engineer, I wonder if the beard-growth is supposed to be a common feature of that caste, and since all of the other protoss characters to date have been Templar or Judicators, we just haven't seen it before?
>>43733357
That's a plausible explanation.
It still feels like Blizzard didn't know how to convey 'Engineer' without 'Stocky and bearded'.
>>43733380
Now, now. They also have 'Lanky with glasses'
>>43733410
Both Swann and Karax have a mechanical prosthesis, too.
>>43733296
I wish they'd done the order differently. Zerg first, Protoss second, Terran third.
How about this? Zerg campaign is Kerrigan coming for the Dominion, ends with her killing Mengsk. By herself. Protoss campaign is them hunting for the keystone to stop Kerrigan and trying to figure out where these weird hybrids are coming from. Terran campaign is Jimmy trying to save as many people as he can while the sector burns as the hybrids fuck everything up. Duran and Amon are the same character, creating hybrids as a fuck you to the Protoss and Zerg for killing a bunch of Xel'Naga.
>>43733296
Ideally, Raynor should have killed Kerrigan. You can still dress it as a love story, but a tragic one. Here's a suggestion.
Ever since New Gettysburg, Raynor has been haunted by dreams of Kerrigan. They're what drew him to Char, where he witnessed her rebirth as the Queen of Blades, but they didn't end there. Some of it's his own guilt at failing to save her, some of it is his rage at what she's done, but a small part of it is whatever shred of humanity Kerrigan has left desperately trying to reach him through the psychic bond they share.
Raynor, of course, finds solace in the bottom of a bottle. It quiets the voices, real and imagined. His mission takes a detour as he explores the depths of his own self-pity before events draw him back into the fight. Thanks to his friend Tychus' connection at Moebius Corps, there's a way to kill the Queen of Blades once and for all. He just needs to sober up, first.
Of course, that brings back the dreams - visions, more like. He sees Kerrigan as she was, at the mercy of a completely inhuman monster. The closer he gets to her, the more powerful the visions become until, finally, when the moment comes, Kerrigan's humanity is crying out for him to kill her.
It's tragic and sorrowful and it can convey just how much of a sacrifice Raynor is making - has made - to see through the oath he swore. Kerrigan gets redeemed the only way it's possible to be redeemed, after what she's done; and the Queen of Blades is dead.
The subsequent Zerg campaign is played from the perspective of a rising broodmother like Zagara, trying to take control of the swarm as its left in disarray by Kerrigan's death and every single reference to the Dark Voice, Zeratul's prophecy and literally every single fucking thing about the Xel'naga goes out the window.
>>43728817
>tfw Blizzard will never make a Starcraft game that represents the unit scales fluff accurately.
>>43733562
It could have been so much worse. Originally, when StarCraft: Ghost was under development, there were little science vessels that would fly around inside buildings to spot Nova.
>>43733556
>You can still dress it as a love story, but a tragic one.
See: Dracula
>>43733556
how does doing nothing but die redeem you? a living person can do better, a dead person just stinks up the joint
>>43733232
Hopefully we'll see more of her in the DLC missions.
I hope the same for Alarak. That motherfucker was amazing.
>>43733587
There's no coming back from what she's done. The closest she can get to redemption is to sacrifice herself by giving Raynor the opportunity to put her down once and for all.
>>43733510
I think Karax's was more overtly a Spider-Man 2 reference, though. He hangs out in miniature sun reactor room and he's got mechanical tentacles.
>>43733601
I guess I'm too much of an idealist, I don't believe in beyond redeemption
>>43733690
Exactly! She only killed billions of civilians.
>>43733690
When your basic instinct is to murder everything that isnt zerg feels as necessary as it is to breathe and eat, yea, it is a big ol redemption when you can get someone to off you. Youre stuck in a body you cant control with a mind that is you but not. Shits fucked up yo.
>>43733556
I'd also have eliminated the ambiguity of Tosh and Hanson's stories. It was such a fucking cop out that there's no "wrong" decision in either arc - side with Hanson and the colonists are saved, side with Selendis and Hanson's a zerg; side with Tosh and free political prisoners or side with Nova and kill dangerous terrorists. Fuck that noise. There's no value added in those choices, you're just guaranteeing that you can never use those characters again because it may invalidate some players' choices.
I wish that there had been more hubs in Spear of Adun, and that the hubs we had were more developed.
For fuck's sake, the bridge only usually has a single dude to interact with, and works basically as just a mission select screen.
The War council is just as empty, and only serves as your unit selection screen.
The stellar core is the same shit, but for the spear of Adun's abilities.
Out of the 3 campaigns, only WoL had a well fleshed out hubs, with the Bridge, Bar, Lab and the Engineering bay.
At least the Spear of Adun wasn't as empty as Kerrigan's Leviathan was. That place had just 2 fucking hubs.
Still, I would have wished that Spear of Adun had something more going on for it. Like, if you could have done shit like send scouts to observe enemy movements from the Bridge for example, or had actually more than 1 adviser in the War council.
I would have also liked some sort of "training dojo" thing where you could have interacted and tested out units and their abilities, and perhaps incorporate some upgrade mechanic to it too.
>>43733544
>>43733556
Oddly enough didn't we have a zerg quest that had Xelnaga being bad guys who were camped out in a different dimension waiting for a rebirth or something?
>>43734127
That would have been rather neat, or even have something like abathur's evoultion missions, you go into a war room, load up different simulations of the army and then test them out against projected encampments.
To be honest though the one mission i found rather fun out of the entire trilogy? The Matt Horner mission where you're flying around the Hyperion to find the code talk fella. That was cool, if we had a way of doing that with the Spear of Adun, a central ship that is treated as the thing it was meant to be, an ark to conserve the protoss civilization.
Speaking off, was the Khala working as a Amon device to uplift the protoss or was that something they found that helped them get over their murdur boners for each other. Seriously did not having mouths really mess them up socially?
>>43734521
If I recall correctly, some dude just re-discovered it and spread it around to stop the fighting. Whether it was a 'just as planned' moment by Amon or simple luck is unknown, but I'd lean towards the former given Blizzard's track record.
>>43734555
>>43734555
Man that would be lame, I was just wondering if maybe the Khala was just something that another race had created, passed on in life and moved on from this sector.
Also was it just me, but did the whole Korpulu sector just feel like it was for lack of a better term, barren? Whole solar systems are just empty of any good planets while there a few that are still useful for actually living on.
>>43733556
Now, admittedly I'm a sucker for a happy ending, but I liked the idea of Sara (Sarah?) Kerrigan and the Queen of Blades being different people.
Here's how I would have handled it, pastebinned for length.
http://pastebin.com/2c94vDZX
>>43734864
Are there any stories that are intersting to read? All I keep finding are shitty texts about oc's that I dont really care about
>>43734987
Well I did just find this:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11620889/1/How-Legacy-of-the-Void-Should-Have-Ended
Bonus points for talking about the little-known character from the first game, Starcraft Manuel.
>>43735137
Actually just read that earlier tonight, got a sensible chuckle from me, wished we had something that was taken somewhat serious, the parts are there, just need to be reorganized into something useful!
>>43731307
There might be some technical difficulties involved.
>>43735300
Handjobs and intercrural sex are still a thing.
>>43734521
A dude called Khas came up with the idea and the Protoss that thought it was a good one helped him create it. Those who didn't fucked off to become space ninjas.
At least that's how it was in SC1.
>>43735357
But how do you please the executor, eh?
Does anyone else consider the demo campaign for SC1 kind of crucial to the feeling of the setting?
>>43735425
Rub up against her erogenous zones, which I assume they still possess.
The real question is how is baby born. Assuming they have an Asari style style method of passing information on, where does the baby form? Obviously cannot develop internally, unless chestbursters sound like fun. Perhaps the foetus grows on the outside of the body, cocooned in some kind cyst/tumor like object, which drops off when it's time to be born?
>>43735516
>erogenous zones, which I assume they still possess
Why would they? If they reproduce via space magic, logically space magic would be what gives them the equivalent of sexual stimulation. If they have an equivalent, and not just passionlessly build more Protoss when needed.
>>43735549
Protoss are way too hot-blooded to do anything passionlessly.
I think cloacas are probably the way to go, though. We all know Blizzard don't know what the hell they're talking about half the time, and the whole "no orifices" thing seems like one of those times.
>>43733562
find a way to put motherships and marines on the same map without making marines fucktiny and ill agree with you
>>43735606
Camera angle from the ground looking up, Mothership is way above the field and looks a lot smaller than it is.
You'd have a hell of a time playing like that, though.
>>43735606
A game with all space missions all the time.
A game with all ground missions all the time.
A mission where you fight under the shadow of a battlecruiser and direct orbital artillery while rescuing catapulted pilots and recovering escape pods.
>>43735606
The battle takes place on a mothership.
>>43735606
SupCom size maps, smaller units come in groups instead of individuals.
>>43735629
>>43735631
>>43735632
considering all theyve done (other than ghost but we dont talk about that) with sc has been rts, i assumed that was the upper limit here
>>43735660
Fucking Ghost. I was so hyped as a little kid back in the day. And now here we are a decade later with the shit we've spent four or five threads complaining about.
>>43733587
If all you had to do to leave the world a better place was to leave the world, would you?
>>43735137
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11620889/1/How-Legacy-of-the-Void-Should-Have-Ended
It's stupid, though.
Amon didn't take control of the Khala from the very beginning because he was dead.
The Overmind and the zerg were never under Amon's direct control. The Overmind only had very generic directives of "Go eat everything starting with these Xel'Naga and finishing with the protoss and shut the fuck up about me". If Amon had total control over it it wouldn't even have been able to betray him by its lateral thinking.
I can appreciate satire over a missing plot point but it should happen on plot points that are actually missing.
>>43736628
Obviously not since he hasn't done it yet.
>>43735584
I prefer to think that their sex parts are somewhat more human compatible. If they can have tits, they can have vagoos.
>>43734864
Jimmy's happy ending should have been bittersweet. He has to sacrifice himself so that others can be happy. Either that means that he dies heroically in a glorious last stand against overwhelming odds, or he's the last one left when the dust settles but the big bad has been defeated; he should not get the girl.
>>43728817
Shouldn't battlecruisers and voidray be more of an end game / one per player unit, because how the fuck can they be so weak in game with that size ? (SC2)
>>43737183
>balance rays
>weak
>>43737007
The overzealous moderators are going to send you to hell for that, but I thank you, anon, as does my image folder.
>>43735654
It would have been much better, marines comes in squades of 3/4/5 and mauraders comes in 2/3 same for reapers.
>>43737193
Well only one rat isn't much of a problem, it's when they have 10-20+.
>>43737201
True. I don't like them intheir current incarnation, but they're so satisfying when I'm toss. They not so much fight as just erase things from exsitence.
>>43737196
My life for Aiur.
>>43728817
Mothership is a lot smaller than I thought it would be.
>>43737007
Clearly, Rohana stopped being such a bitch because she was riding Artanis' Spear of Adun.
>>43737390
En taro Descartes.
>>43728724
Muscle wizard situation there.
I CAST PSI BLADE.
>>43737007
Except according to their fluff, they got no orifices at all.
>>43737522
Did you pay no attention to that comment chain past the one you replied to?
>>43737559
Yes I did, what of it?
Fluff wise, protoss lack any and all orifices.
>>43737568
The post before that one brings up Protoss having no orifices and elects to ignore it due to Blizzard having no idea what they're doing.
The post you replied to expanded on that, making your restatement of the official standpoint pointless as it had already been acknowledged and discarded.
>>43728638
Still not rape, so we're good.
>>43737043
This is the kind of thinking that leads to WH40k.
Test
>>43729374
So, why do the purifiers and Tal'darim have Nerazim tech? Especially recent Nerazim tech?
>>43737007
Protoss males are gonna have to thrust their spears really darn frequently and the whole race is gonna have to promote large families if they want to avoid extinction.
>>43737823
Now that they have a proper robot army they'll take a lot less losses in combat as well.
>>43737823
They'll be fine, Blizzard doesn't really understand the concept of attrition.
>>43737612
Dunno, those tights must be darn muscular so it will get reversed and turn into Snu Snu.
>>43737844
That's a good thing.
>>43737847
Blizzard doesn't even understand itself.
Given what we know of Protoss there are a couple of equally horrifying possibilities for their reproduction.
>They are no longer capable of sexual reproduction after so much genetic tampering and instead grow more Protoss through artificial means.
>All the current living Protoss are all there has ever been since the uplifting and they are biologically immortal. Their numbers have literally been dwindling since the Age of Strife.
>If either of these are true the Purifiers could have been an attempt to create new Protoss as much as an attempt to create a weapon.
>Like most of their biological processes, their reproduction is plant-like as well with the "seeding" of the lush jungles of Aiur being the only thing that can allow more to grow. They do not mature but awaken fully formed with psychic impressions guiding their development during the growing process.
It's also possible that there are more than a single method employed by the various factions as each addresses the problem differently.
>>43737903
Pretty sure they just warp in fertilized eggs from aiur.
Protoss strike me as the type of race to replace sex with warp technology.
>>43737917
They are all about warping.
>>43737917
Or mind crystals. They could grow babbies from mind crystals. Pylons are not only transmitters, but nurseries. Children are educated via psionic imprint, so the efficient way to go about it would be to grow them in pylons.
>>43737903
>All the current living Protoss are all there has ever been since the uplifting and they are biologically immortal.
This is demonstrably untrue because Raszagal explicitly states that she's one of the last remaining Dark Templar that remembers Aiur, before her people fled; and Vorazun is her daughter. The precise mechanisms of protoss reproduction may be in dispute but they do clearly reproduce.
Are you all really so repulsed by sex that you have to come up with these ridiculous scenarios?
>>43738101
I'm not repulsed.
In the end, sex is life and a lifebringer.
>>43738031
It doesn't help that we haven't seen a Protoss child
>>43738233
We haven't seen Terran children, either, and yet I'm pretty sure that marines aren't incubated in supply depots before being decanted at the barracks.
With this rate of production? They're fully grown violent criminals at age 6 seconds.
>>43738246
what makes you think they are not?
>>43737594
Except the no orifices thing is completely fitting to the protoss. Their skin has already been established to be the main way they receive, nutrients and remove waste from their body. Thinking that they need orifices for reproduction is dumb.
>>43738233
There is one in the Reclamation vid.
>>43738640
A life without a penis is no kind of life at all.
>>43738809
Unless you have a vagina in its place
>>43738888
Or a pylon.
>>43738894
>not a fleet beacon with a single huge blue testicle
>>43738906
>it launches carriers which launch interceptors
>two-stage gamete flight system
>>43738894
>>43738906
>>43738894
>not warping your sperm directly inside her
What are you some sort of Tal'derim degenerates?
>>43739882
Warp gates already look like a giant mechanical vagina, so I guess they could warp the baby out of the womb afterwards, too.
>>43739882
>not fusing your psychic essences, becoming a single entity in mind and body, sharing every subtle sensation and nuance of pleasure
I can't be doin wit dis
>>43739882
>Khalai prudes don't into phase impregnation
Nerazime for life
>>43739918
So the Khala is a 24/7 orgy, among other things? Shit, now I see why they lament getting cut off so much.
>>43739959
>you will never form a withing ball of psychosexual energy with your waifu
>>43738640
How exactly would the child separate from the mother, then?
>>43740512
An Arbiter casts Dimensional Recall on it.
>>43737994
Is that why pylons provide supply?
Right.
Was it just me, or was theirkilling ZeratulWAY too early in terms of plot?
>>43739959
It's constant valley girl gossiping about their day and feels. You can't be a downer in the Khala.
>>43740861
No, pylons provide supply because Protoss tech draws on power provided by their psi fields. It's like >>43738246 said, it's not like Marines are born in supply depots - it's an abstraction of the infrastructure necessary to support an army.
>>43740863
It was also a huge plot hole. Pic related, it's Artanis before LotV. Notice anything?
>>43740863
Yeah. I respect the choice to off him since he's basically protons obi-Wan anyway, but should have happened closer to the climax of a game-- and it could have been any of them. But first thing in no.3 was just stupid.
>>43741130
He's a platypus.
>>43741130
He should have saved Selendis, instead.
>>43741169
>Zeratul arrives to find Selendis going crazy, just as before
>Artanis shows up shortly after, and suddenly it's Selendis vs. Artanis and Zeratul
>Amon amplifies her battle fetish, and she's able to outfight the both of them
>Zeratul gives Artanis an opening, who severs her nerve chords, but not before Selendis kills Zeratul
>Selendis spends time in deep regret for her actions, constantly avoiding Vorazun and confiding in Artanis that between the mistakes she made in Brood War (being kind of a moron with the Aldaris situation) and killing Zeratul, she's not fit to be executor
>Artanis does stereotypical anime fighting spirit bullshit speech, and she fights alongside Artanis when they blow Shakuras, with the same Zeratul speech voiceover in the background as before, with more poignancy because of that 'never alone' thing.
>>43741285
I'm sorry, anon. That's too good to be Blizzard writing.
>>43741285
Bonus points if there's an introductory cinematic before the invasion where Artanis defeats her handily while sparring.
>>43741364
Why?
>>43741372
To establish how hopped up she is on Amon's Dark mojo.
>>43741285
>amplifies her battle fetish
Makes me imagine her talking like she gets off to the fighting while posessed
>>43741444
Both hands on the keyboard, anon.
>>43741444
Isn't this literally how Selendis is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6MBISq9dO4
>>43735660
At least we can rip her model from Heroes of the Storm and make porn out of it. What more do you want?
>>43741535
Meant to quote >>43735742
>>43741285
>And then they fuck
>>43741665
Oh man, only now do I see how much I needed an artanis selendis romance
>>43741665
Fine by me.
>>43741691
It's the most obvious thing in the world, and yet I have no issue with it whatsoever. It's literally the first two surviving protoss onscreen getting together, and yet it kinda works.
>>43741836
This is the love story SC2 needed, not Raynor/Kerrigan.
>>43741130
That was an artistic error in BW m8.
Artanis was a templar, and he was not supposed to have severed nervecords.
>>43741855
There is not enough alien love in scifi
>shipping fags
Okay, this thread had potential, but it needs to stop reproducing itself now. /sage advice.
>>43742250
Pretty high profile artistic error. This isn't a one-time oversight where one team's art didn't match another's, like bald Raynor. Artanis appears with severed nerve cords every single time he appears in Brood War, including his character portrait, the campaign selection screen and ending cinematic.
>>43742451
>bald Raynor
At least they referenced it in Wings of Liberty.
>>43742451
It's also been mentioned in other worms as being a reason he was sent as an envoy to Shakuras, his injury made him a potential mediator
>>43742663
I think that might have been an explanation after the fact, though. Artanis' first appearance is during the evacuation of Aiur, before they reach Shakuras or meet any of the other Dark Templar.
What happened to the Magistrate of Mar Sara?
>>43743613
Officially, I don't think he's ever referenced ever again. Unofficially, I like to think it was Matt Horner - although apparently they say that Matt was some other secondary character that never appeared in the game.
>>43743613
Retired.
Very probable he was Myles Hammond.
>>43743653
No, the Magistrate is new as of the Terran campaign. It's a different character.
The SC1 Magistrate is enjoying a well deserved vacation in margaritaville.
It's a shame nothing happened with the SC1/Broodwar Cerebrate, it deserved better.
>>43743766
I still headcanon that it was evolved into a brood mother, hatching from itself like a butterfly
>>43743766
Those were two different Cerebrates.
The vanilla one was killed by Zeratul (previously he was on Aiur, but a novel retconned it sadly), while the BW one was killed off by Kerrigan because he outlived his usefulness.
>>43737823
After Super Saiyan Kerrigan came back to pick Raynor up, many barren worlds have become fertile again. Maybe that's going to give the Protoss a boost too.
>>43743766
I too am rather cross about that. I was looking forward to cerebrating again.
>AWAKEN MY CHILD, AND EMBRACE THE GLORY THAT IS YOUR BIRTHRIGHT
>>43743797
So who the Fuck are you on Aiur? Araq, some other new cerebrate?
>>43743800
>yo momma's so fat grass started growing on her when Amon died
>>43743800
I heard that was supposed to be a hint at a fourth race for SCIII
>>43743822
I frakking dunno anon.
I was just myself chilling with my Brood.
>>43743830
I didn't get that at all. It just came across as really trying to hammer home the notion that Kerrigan became the Phoenix Force. As if the totally derivative art direction wasn't enough.
>>43743830
But they can't balance three right!
Though I admit lotv was a step in the right direction. They immediately took half a step backwards, but still.
>>43743830
Heard from no one of any significance I'm sure. Pretty sure it was a "and the future looked a little brighter" epilogue conclusion.
>>43741855
I would prefer Artanis/Vorazun, partly because I like them in general and partly because I like that it really cinches the "our disparate people are now one" thing. And also because Selendis totally wants Raynor's cock.
>>43743797
Which is a shame, since BW Cerebrate was a total bro.
>>43744251
>Selendis totally wants Raynor's cock
Interracial porn when?
That's what I figured too. A fourth race seems to risky for Blizzard.
>>43737716
Tal'darim are like magpies, they steal everything shiny and new. This gets an explicit mention in a conversation with Karax, where Artanis wonders how the hell they have Khalai technology. I don't recall the Purifiers having anything they shouldn't during the mission you release them, and after that they get Khalai tech given to them.
>>43744294
I think they could handle a fourth race if it was strictly npc or maybe campaign-only, like the Naga from Frozen Throne. You don't have to balance it perfectly, then.
>>43744252
Indeed.
> Kerrigan cuts you off from the other Cerebrates to help her.
> You pull off a shitload of crazy.
> You infest the Kel-Morian CCs with Fenix
> You kill the newbie Overmind
> In Omega mission you go against everyone in the Koprulu Imperial Guard style of HOLD THE LINE
> Sorry, but I don't need you anymore (Spawn Broodling) - BW Kerrigan being The Qeen Butch of The Universe
>>43744294
NPC UED
>>43743830
>>43743860
its the eternal cycle starting again
>>43744522
Kerrigan makes it pretty clear in the epilogue that she's not interested in the eternal cycle. Which was a stupid plot device, by the way.
>>43744423
*BITCH. I meant BITCH.
>>43744423
seriously, the cerebrates as characters get the biggest shaft in the setting
>>43744522
>>43744557
if anything its her trying to just use her powers to put some good in the galaxy to atone for all the evil she did in her life
>>43741285
>she fights alongside Artanis when they blow Shakuras, with the same Zeratul speech voiceover in the background
Jesus christ fund it.
>>43744706
Being an actual god seems like a pretty sweet gig. I'm not sure why Amon was so butthurt about it.
>>43744990
Well, we don't know what he was before he became a Xel'naga. Maybe he was the previous universe's Descartes, and he got mad about losing his dick in the transition to space manatee.
>>43745134
How come Kerrigan didn't become a space manatee?
>>43744557
But the infinite cycle is just how xel'naga reproduce. She'll come around eventually.
>>43745181
Lazyness
>>43745181
Bad writing.
I mean, the space manatees were bad writing in the first place, and then not following through on them just compounded it.
>>43745181
Imma take a hit of bullshitium and say that xel'naga is not a species but a state of being and each cycle's xel'naga are different. The space manatee look was all the rage in the previous universe.
>>43745181
Pretty sure she's planning to reproduce with Jimmy.
>>43745268
>Raynor has to ascend first
>Has no idea how to go about it and stumbles around the universe looking for a way to finally fuck his waifu in missionary position for the purpose of procreation. While holding hands.
>Jimmy's Bizarre Adventure
>>43745309
>Jimmy's Bizarre Adventure
Would like and subscribe.
>>43745309
Well, if the only way to make xel'naga is to get the essence/power/whatever from a previous one, he is pretty much boned.
>>43745309
what would Raynor's stand be?
>>43745355
Jukebox Hyperion
>>43745337
I don't think that's how it usually works. When Artanis is narrating the big retcon, it sounds like the Purity of Form and Purity of Essence arise naturally and independently as part of the cycle, without Xel'naga interference, and eventually merge(?) to become the next xel'naga. They're plus one every time the universe resets.
Ouros just sort of gave Kerrigan all his Xel'naga mojo, instead.
>>43745268
Jimmy is not for sexual!
>>43745398
He does state that the Xel'Naga elders give their lives to facilitate the process, though.
>>43745515
>Jimmy is the purest form of love
>>43745542
Is that why Selendis wants him in her Purity of Form?
>>43745590
>Xel'Naga failed because they ignored the humans and Purity of Love needed to merge form and essence without an apocalyptic hatefuckfest
>>43745181
>>43745245
Its not like the oldest confirmed xel'naga is a shapeshifter or anything...
How did Korhal rebuild so damn quick?
>>43746303
bad writing
>>43745752
>Purity of Love
>Terrans have the power to fuck anything they damn well please
>>43746303
Mengsk used the quick build chest.
>>43746303
Backbreaking slave labour.
>>43746144
Was he shapeshifting? Or was he obfuscating to the perceptions of lesser races so that they thought he was something other than a space manatee?
Frankly, the whole Xel'naga arc in StarCraft II is ridiculous. The entire series is diminished for it.
>>43746399
>I'm an absurdly powerful, almost invincible space manatee
>now watch as I turn into a raging loser who wants to destroy everything because I'M SAAAAAAAD
>>43745337
Well, there are still all those xel'naga corpses in Ulnar.
I mean, it'd mean Jimmy would suddenly be tentacled space manatee.
>>43746853
But it would ALSO mean tentacled mustache rides.
Damnit /tg/ I've always wanted to play in a starcraft campaign.
>>43746974
Why don't you?
>>43747000
I've not found a dm ever willing to run it and haven't found enough players that'd be willing to play what I want to run. (Protoss and Terran Rogue Trader type pirates)
>>43747035
What system would work for a Starcraft campaign?
Personally I'd probably focus on doing backwater space redneck things.
>making a kerrigan-esque character as the bbeg in my game
what should I avoid?
>>43747138
Redemption, love story, chosen one prophecies.
>>43747174
Only chosen one prophecies are really a problem.
Keep in mind that she could have had plenty of loved ones, and that's okay. And trying to redeem her is also okay, but those are things you need to work five times as hard to do.
>>43747209
Really, only the redemption is tricky; giving her loved ones is easy. Have her be really keen on infesting her loved ones so they can join her in her new ascended state forever-- why are you resisting her love? Don't you want to join her in ultimate, zergy bliss? Honey, you're breaking my heart when you shoot at me like that. Come on, it'll be perfect-- we can have those kids we've always wanted, and we'll lead them in a bloody swath across the galaxy until it's just us and our family among the stars. Don't you love me anymore?
>>43747209
Incorrect. Some things - like mass murder - are simply irredeemable.
>>43746399
>Was he shapeshifting?
He was shapeshifting, 100%.
>Durr hurr Duran was manipulating your perceptions to fit inside a dropship
>>43747449
Oh, are we talking about Duran? I thought you meant Ouros pretending to be Tassadar.
Yeah, Duran was definitely a shapeshifter but I thought they said that he was specifically not a Xel'naga.
>>43747447
Mass murder is really not irredeemable at all. Whether right or left, present or past, the majority of people have one or more of their cultural heroes someone who slaughtered shitloads of people, typically as a means to an end. You can kill tons of kids and still get a Nobel Peace Prize.
>>43747473
They mentioned killing Narud for good in the same cutscene, iirc, that they mentioned Xel'naga return to the Void once slain, and Narud was definitely killed by Kerrigan before he turned into a space manatee.
>>43747071
>the first humans the enigmatic space aliens meet are Space Texans.
>>43747525
It was another retcon basically. They never mentioned Narud being a XN at all and then suddenly WHY HELLO.
>>43747616
I wouldn't really call it a retcon, they never he wasn't one. I think he just said something along the lines 'I serve a far older power than the Zerg' in that secret mission in BW. I would have preferred him just be some kind of servant of the Xel'naga rather than being one himself, but it wasn't really that big a deal.
>>43747447
And if your mind is constantly being clawed at, every day, by, say, Kerrigan (Pre-Xel'Naga nonsense in SC2) or you've got a voice whispering in your mind and fucking with your thoughts (Arthas), you're still on the redemption horse, in theory.
>>43747723
Arthas never got one though. everyone and their dog got a redemption but not arthas.
>>43747768
And that, dear child, is what we call a tragic ending.
>>43747829
>Sylvanas becomes LK 2.0
>all those lobotomized humans in undercity
>its totally OK
>arthas gave up his humanity so he could help people before they ended up like that.
>sylvanas is gonna be redeemed
>undeadfags say its alright because lordaeron belongs to its people
>even though hillsbrad and southshore were not part of lordaeron
>only guy to stand against her is based thassarian.
at least he would be remembered well in wh40k.
>>43747914
Oh, agreed. I do not understand Sylvanas' direction whatsoever. Arthas should have gotten the redemption, since he is a classic example of a fallen paladin, while Sylvanas... I like high elves and everything, but she should not have been playing nice with human dead.
>>43748015
>varian nods and smiles at her after the bullshit in wotlk and cata
REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAW IN UNDERCITY AND WHAT HAPPENED TO SOUTHSHORE YOU CUK.
Realistically, what would the imperium do to azeroth if they stumbled upon it?
>>43748133
Exterminatus, move along. It's a pretty uncomplicated situation.
>>43748133
Destroy it? The entire world is rampant with Chaos and mutants and xenos and shit from an Imperial perspective.
>>43748164
>>43748176
wait, I thought the exterminatus was relatively later down the line.I just want a leman russ driving over thrall/varian/jaina/sylvanas like that tau commander
>>43747616
>It was another retcon basically.
Uh, no. Ever play Brood War? It was pretty obvious that he was a XN, as the only race he could have been.
And before you bitch about that too, keep in mind that if they introduced a brand new Duranian shapeshifting race for him to belong to, you'd probably be bitching now too.
The only real discrepancy seems to be why Narud is so much weaker than Amon, why Narud served as Sauron to his Morgoth, and such.
>>43748233
that was a hellhound
and with all the warp portals, they probably wouldn't risk it
>>43747616
>They never mentioned
broodwar's secret mission
granted it was probably the weakest part of broodwar's story, so naturally they decided to make it take center fucking stage for a god damn trilogy
>>43748264
to be fair, he could have been an infested terran being manipulated by the xel naga.
that would make him more grounded.
>>43748266
hmm, but it is rich in resources and shit.
>>43748337
>to be fair, he could have been an infested terran being manipulated by the xel naga.
Erm, I suppose its -technically possible- that some guy from the 500s or earlier was abducted by the XN or Zerg and infested, but ancient alien astronaut stuff would be pretty odd for Starcraft.
He is afterall at least two millenia old.
>>43748430
I was thinking of something more involved
>duran is random ghost that gets turned by the overmind into a kerrigan failsafe, not as powerful as kerrigan, but more reliable.
>so reliable infact that he keeps up with the overmind perfection project after he dies
>uses his place to protect the zerg while completing the zerg.
its far better than.
>He was an ancient ayylien all along with his name spelt backward!
