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#unbanU
>>43464446
I wanna rev for 15
>>43464298
You need more than one good/okay card to make a whole color worth it. Face it, white is pretty trash tier in modern. The only good cards it has is path and good sideboard options, far cry from "must play color" like red.
>mfw the BGx staples are almost $1500
Wizards will pay for shilling out with Kike City Games
>>43464698
>must play
>all modern decks are/include red
>>43464748
imagine if lightning bolt had been printed at rare in alpha, beta, and all subsequent sets
>>43464998
Infect, Merfolk, Bogles, Elves, and Junk don't
>>43464998
Funny too because mono white hoses mono red.
>>43464698
I'd give that "must play" color to blue or black. Blue for filtering and black for utility. Just about every big deck runs some kind of blue or black. Affinity has both (Thoughtcast/Thoughtseize). Jund/Junk have black at the very least. All Grixis builds, Twin uses blue, burn sometimes splashes black... Heck, there's even U Tron.
>>43465184
>b-but blue is the weakest color in modern! unban preordain, ponder, ancestral vision, dig, treasure cruise, and jtms
>>43465232
If we're gonna unban a ton of fun blue stuff, let's also unchain Satan.
>BBE into Visions
>Temur aggro becomes BDIF
>>43465367
Silly anon, BBE isn't satan
>Travis Woo suspended indefinitely by Channel Fireball
Hooray, no more shitty modern brews.
>>43465070
If bolt was printed at rare in alpha it would probably have not been reprinted after the reserved list and then magic would be a drastically different (and better) game
>>43465535
What, why?
>>43465174
>>43465171
What is a sarcasm
>>43465576
Apparently he was saying some /pol/-tier shit on a live stream last night.
Anyone got a link to a good mono green stumpy build? Trying to show my friend a competent decklist he can try to get into magic with
>>43465535
>>43465613
Sure thing buddy. Feel free to source any of the shit you are saying.
>>43465576
Last night, on his stream, he talked about how he was reading Mein Kampf, and thought it'd be a good idea to try discussing it.
>>43465613
That's amazing if true
>>43465613
>>43465677
Travis "gas the jew" Woo
>>43465677
facebook com/TravisWizard/posts/10153703367154518
>Andrew Martin So you hate Jews and make bad brews ?
God damn it Andrew
>>43465675
>>43465688
Channel Fireball issued a statement on their FB page.
Travis "mono white is right" Woo
>>43465786
>>43465677
>>43465613
Anyone has a vod? Twitch doesn't have a recording of yesterday, the last one it has is Oct 30th.
>>43465677
>how he was reading Mein Kampf, and thought it'd be a good idea to try discussing it.
Nothing wrong with this.
Is this America or what ??
Mein Kampf will fall in the public domain : it will be controversial and I don't see any problems by talking of it.
>>43465900
He's not the player we need
But he's the player we deserve
He is, the white knight
Travis "I wish I could Celestial Purge niggers" Woo
>>43465924
I'm pretty sure he deleted it, because the link I had doesn't work anymore
>>43465924
>TWoo is/was streaming modo while reading passages from Mein Kampf and talking about how he agreed that Jews controlled the media and it was good to see the other side of things. And citing the book as evidence of how all of Germany in that era felt, generally agreeing with a lot of it.
Or at least that's what I gather from IRC, I didn't watch the stream myself.
- The Jews control the media
- Racism isn't wrong because lots of people are racist.
- Asian men do not control the media (The Jews do) which is why we trivialize Asian men
- The US entered WW2 to "Save a race of people," and for other "Jewish Reasons"
- There is no unbiased history, and anywhere between 200,000 and '10s of millions' of people died in the Holocaust (which may not have happened)
- "I bet if a tiger walked into a room, and someone said "don't worry, he's friendly" you probably wouldn't take their word for it. Why? Because you have a self defense mechanism called "prejudice"."
- We dont know the 'real reasons' for WW2
- Honored Hierarch is playable
He did say "I hate when the Jews take over" at one point during the stream. He also mentions how much he respects Jews because of how much power they wield and how much they control for being so few. Its more polite antisemitism and less outright holocaust denial. The part I tuned into, he said "Okay, maybe it's possible that the jews didn't do anything wrong. But that's hard to believe, because that would mean an entire nation of people spontaneously turned evil for no reason."
>>43466010
Fucking kek
Why aren't you playing Living End anon?
>>43466022
> Honored Hierarch is playable
that alone is reason to sack him
>>43466103
living end's art is scary
>>43466022
>>43465924
Got this Dropbox link from leddit,
twitter com/FoundOmega/status/661999539293941761
>>43466022
>Honored Hierarch is playable
Absolutely disgusting. I would sack him myself.
Opinions on Coco Pod? I loved pod and this is not quite it but it looks sweet.
>>43466022
>But that's hard to believe, because that would mean an entire nation of people spontaneously turned evil for no reason
Hey, that's clever.
And it's not even a joke. Just look at the fucking History.
>>43466361
It doesn't really hold up as an argument.
The US was racist as shit during the same time period.
Was that considered evil? Not really, that's just how it was at the time. Germany didn't suddenly turn racist the second Hitler showed up
>>43466464
>The US was racist as shit during the same time period
This. Fucking Canada turned away a boat of jews fleeing because, as their governer of immigration said, "no jews is too many"
They ended up all being gassed, I believe
So modern is pretty cool huh...
>>43466698
It's the coolest format and I mean that sincerely. Once you get into it, it's a lot offun.
>>43466879
Oh I know! I think I want to build infect. I was more pointing out this modern thread turned into a jerk off fest about Travis Woo, like who fucking cares man.
>>43466924
Probably because it's so hilarious that he actually did something like that on stream. Sensationalism.
What colors for infect? UG? Let's see your list and sideboard.
>>43467007
I get it but no need to have such a fest in this modern thread I wanna talk about modern. Im in the middle of a lecture and my list is at home. Still making the side board as well. So far its UG but black is rather interesting.
>>43466256
It sounds good, I'd love to build it...
But I have an issueI'm poor as shit
>>43467082
Even with hierarchs dropping i still cannot fucking afford the deck. Ive tested it with my friends on cockatrice however and its a fucking house. Wall of roots is a monster of a blocker. Spellskit from the board against twin is 100% fucking gassss
>>43464323
Hey Faggo/tG/ays
Where the fuck do I go to trade? I just want to find people who can give me a fucking list of things they want and then I can give them a list and we can settle it.
>>43467108
I'd think Junk Value Train would be a better choice but then again I've never seen a CoCo Pod do... Well, anything.
>>43467124
Pucatrade?
>>43467146
No one actually trades decent shit on that website
Also, I'd rather try to find a place where I can trade in person
[Spoiler] >Inb4 'trade at your gamrstore' [/spoiler]
>>43467197
What is wrong with trading at your game store?Just press Crtl + S then you can't mess up your spoilers.
>>43466022
>- "I bet if a tiger walked into a room, and someone said "don't worry, he's friendly" you probably wouldn't take their word for it. Why? Because you have a self defense mechanism called "prejudice"."
well, that's a new one
>Honored Hierarch is playable
Pfft hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha this is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day
>your deck/sideboard doesn't have spellskite
Please explain
>>43467291
The people who have cards I want are 'oldbies' and only want to trade for ridiculous things I don't have
And the other people are faggots who don't have things I want
Also the 'oldbies' are asshats who don't like me becauseI'm not as old as themdespite the fact I've been playing longer than all of them.
Also I'd love to press ctrl+s, but I'm on mobile.
>>43467812
I runUR storm, why would I need it
>>43467846
>people board in skite against storm expecting it to save them
>>43468068
Jesus, please tell me this is a joke, do people really do that?
>>43468103yes
>>43466103
Why aren't YOU playing living end? I haven't seen your deck yet anon.
>>43468152
Holy fucking shit, speaking of retards, I have to explain to people the interaction between Skulcrack and Protection so often, I'm thinking of printing it out on a fucking piece of paper and stapling it to peoples heads when they say 'B... But... Protection?'
>>43465711
>>43465900
>>43466010
>>43466022
This shit is gold.
>>43468209
Bit unrelated, but I was playing Burn against Tron and he got out Orbs of Warding. It was no big deal, all I had to do was skullcrack myself and hit him for lethal.
>>43464446
Maro is a jew and bans all the good blue cards.
>>43468236
See? It's not fucking hard. But I constantly have to deal with the same fucking question and I have to pull up comp text for protection to explain it.
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>>43468288
Get your fucking meme deck out of here
>>43468260
>maro
>in charge of banning
2/10 bait
>>43467827
I stopped bringing my binders because everyone with "trades" had three pages of picked over shit from the last two standards.
>>43467108
You could always just buy the deck a few parts at a time when you can afford them.
>>43468388
Exactly, and if they have any modern viable cards they want the goddamn moon for them"HURR, I'LL TRADE YOU THIS SNAPCASTER FOR THESE 4 PYROCLASMS"
>>43468402
You're not wrong, but sometimes I like to build on a deadline, just to swap decks every once in a while.
>>43466152
better link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6GeBhSNyfw
>>43468152
I've seen people bring in blood moon against storm before.
>>43468236
Wait, what?
>>43465535
kek
>>43468388
Same here, I usually ask on my stores FB page if anyone has what I need, at least the owner keeps a lot of modern and a few legacy staples in stock.
>>43468388
I stopped bringing trade shit about a decade ago.
Nobody ever has anything I want.
>>43468388
I stopped bringing mine becauseI have nothing good to tradeand I'm busy trying to piece together other things.
>>43468525
>I've seen people bring in blood moon against storm before.
>>43468616
People are bad at sideboarding anon
the best thing about it was that the blood moon player also had access to rest in peace in their sideboard and thought it wasn't high impact enough
So i've been playing some delver for the first time and it's a pretty sweet deck. Why doesn't anyone play it anymore?
>>43468705
Delver's manabase is painful
modern is full of really aggressive decks that kill you on turn 3
>>43468705
Probably because it used to be the biggest Grixis deck in the format until it was overshadowed by Twin. Now everyone either plays Grixis Twin or Grixis Control.
>>43468705
twin does everything delver does except is slightly less aggressive, but forces your opponent to leave mana open turn 4+ in case you have the combo
>>43468869
Twin also has to play dead combo pieces that aren't very good on their own.
>>43465535
Best news all day, all week, all month. Fuck this guy and his content
>>43468731
>Modern
>killing t3
Isn't one of the points of Modern banlist that you shouldn't be able to kill before t4?
>>43468402
While that is true I'm incredibly poor and it feels bad man. It took me 2 years to make my edh deck.
>>43469259
Shouldn't be able to kill consistently before t4
>>43469259
The fastest kills i've ever managed were turn 1 with grishoalbrand, turn 2 with amulet and turn 3 with naya zoo.
But yeah, most decks aren't that fast.
>>43468288
your mission, should you choose to accept it... is to resolve splinter twin on restoration angel, then activate it, flash in the pestermite in response to the token trigger, untap the original angel, flicker the pestermite with the token ability that was on the stack and go off.
>>43469316
And yet... amulet Bloom is tier 1, unbanned, and doesn't die to one piece of hate.
>>43469343
Bloom isn't quite that consistent.
And it dies super hard to blood moon.
>>43469343
Amulet Bloom is neither tier 1 or consistent enough. Quit talking out your ass.
>>43469259
it depends on consistency - infect and amulet bloom can get god draws and win t2 but most games with them are interactive
amulet of vigor might get banned
>>43469343
>bloom doesn't die to one piece of hate
blood moon, GQ if you understand timings and the stack, counterspells
>>43469359
>isn't consistent
It's turn 3 at the latest every fucking time I play it
>Dies to moon
Yes. A 3 drop enchantment.
>>43469343
that deck dies to aven mindcensor and/or leonin arbiter.
YOU WANT SEARCH RYBRARIEEE?
TOO BAD HATEBEAR FUCK YOU!
>>43469337
>that many moving parts
I'll stick to "Lava Spike you for 3", thanks
>>43469379
Bloom is both consistent and tier 1, I'm afraid you're the one talking out of your ass
>>43469396
I think all the salt you've been feeling is distorting your memory anon.
>>43469396
>It's turn 3 at the latest every fucking time I play it
Try shuffling your opponent's deck better.
>>43469415
The deck hasn't won a major event in 3 months and even it's online results are pitiful.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#online
Keep staying salty friend.
>>43469396
do you play counterspells? i hear they're pretty good
>>43469396
Son, Bloom isn't tier 1.
I'm on RW burn currently, but am thinking of adding a heavier G splash to play commands. I would just netdeck, but I like to hear the reasoning behind running certain cards. What should I add to my mana base to facilitate the splash /tg/? I have copperlines, and am working on trading for 2 mesas and more stomping grounds. Also, ignore the torpor orbs, they're going to be relics soon.
>>43469415
>Bloom is both consistent and tier 1
>>43469629
You pretty much hit the nail on the head with stomping ground. I wouldn't bother with copperlined gorge unless that's your only option. Your splashing G for command and destructive revelry unless I'm missing something so G is tertiary. I think you can leave the count low and rely on fetches to make up the numbers.
>>43469629
I play naya burn and I just run 8 fetches, 2 stomping grounds, 2 sacred foundries, and 6 mountains.
>>43469655
>bloom players in his area can't consistently get a hasted, double strike t2 prime time
you must be playing with scrubs m8
So, /tg/, I'd like to pick up Troll Worship as a fun alternative to my regular FNM rotation. Anyone have any experience building the deck?
>>43468260
>Good blue cards are banned
This has to be bait.
>>43469820
Only 18 lands? I have problems with screw occasionally and im on 19. How has that been working for you?
>>43469845
Been playing it for 3 weeks at a pretty competitive LGS, went 2-2 every week. It's pretty fun to watch Burn repeatedly swing and leave you at 1 HP, or for Twin to combo off and not win. Only changes I've made were taking out a Witchstalker for a Thrun, taking out two Dismembers for two Path to Exiles, changing 3x Llanowar Elves for more Birds to help the mana base (they'll eventually be Noble Hierarchs), and adding two fetches and two shocks. Once the mana base is solid I'm going to splash blue for Negates and Dispels, and I'm looking at Leyline of Sanctity to screw over my discard-heavy meta.
>>43469629
I also meant to ask if Nacatls are necessary to get the most out of the Naya version
>>43470010
it works fine for me, but I'm still in testing. Just need the goblin guides before I can take it to a tournament.
>>43470038
yes, thankfully they're only $1
How do you guys keep track of life? pen and paper? is there an app you'd recommend as the best?
>>43470192
i'm old fashioned and like using spindown counters, but I see a lot of people use pen and paper
if people use an app they usually use mtg fanatic in my experience
>>43470192
I'll use an app for casual games(I use MTG Life Total), but anything remotely competitive is pen and paper
>>43469840
last time that happened at a big event it turned out the player was cheating
>>43470192
App for FNM/friend games or spindown if I am low on battery and always pen and paper for serious shit.
>>43466022
Travis "Iona of Emeria and choosing Jew" Woo
>>43470192
I use a spindown for casual games and pen and paper for more competitive stuff.
>>43468567
>Wait, what?
Basically I had out a Guide and two Swiftspears and had to deal 5. Just attacking would've dealt 1. So I targeted myself with the Crack since my opponent had hexproof, and Skullcrack made it so the Orbs couldn't prevent the now six damage coming in to kill my opponent.
>sit down to play some modern
>"competitive"
>living twin, soul sisters, "dredge"
why
>>43470038
No. The nacatls actively weaken the deck.
>>43470152
>he doesn't have guides
opinions discarded
>>43470173
Cost of Nacatls isn't really the concern so much as what I should be cutting, and whether that has an effect on how many stomping ground/fetches I should be playing. I'd rather just stick to straight RW if command means I need nacatls and nacatls mean I need to shell out another $200 for a playset of mesas and 2 more stomping grounds.
>>43470567
Soul sisters is competitive though.
>>43470632
Don't run nacatls. Waste of time in burn. And you don't need them to make splashing green worth your time. It's for the destructive revelry and command. You only need a light splash with a couple shocks since only the commands are maindecked.
>>43470632
And you should be running a playset of messas.
>>43470781
Tom Ross pls
>>43465924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSCuaplpQSM
>>43470801
>>43470835
I can get 2 mesas tops, is missing 2 fetches really that big of a deal? And is command really worth it with only 12 creatures in the deck (lavamancer won't be attacking even most likely), seems like a harder to cast skullcrack at that point
>>43470874
I did nazi that one coming.
Travis "Mass Calcify isnt just a spell, its a way of life!" Woo
>>43470898
Missing two isn't a big deal. But it would make your color fixing more consistant. However if you feel comfortable with what you have, it's fine.
It is a skullcrack most of the time but don't underestimate the creature buff. With just a couple creatures out can finish an opponent handley with a bolt/buff. Running 8 anti life-gain effects is also worthwhile.
>>43470898
Command gets around hexproof effects too.
>>43471494
Command doesn't hit creatures.
>>43471519
Hexproof on your opponent ya dork.
is living end fun to play? Seems pretty unorthodox, but fun. And how does the Cascade effect allow you to play Living End without suspending it exactly?
>>43471814
Yes.
No.
Yes.
Uhhh... how would it not work?
>>43469478
>online results are pitiful.
It has won the last two Modern PTQs.
>>43471814
I assume you know how cascade works. The casting cost of a card with no cost is calculated as zero by things that care about the casting cost of a card (like cascade). The rest should make sense.
>>43472026
You should differentiate mana cost and converted mana cost in your explanation.
>>43472095
My bad.
>>43468288
>different art restoration angels
>different art splinter twins
Travis "devotion to white" Woo
Travis Woo? More like Travis Poo
>>43472260
I'm 30 minutes in and though he says a few messed up things, he doesn't seem to be pro-fascist or strongly anti-Semitic.
>>43472346
"I hate when the jews took over"
that's pretty hateful
>>43472384
When was that?
like real talk how dumb do you have to be to talk about hitler on your own stream
>>43472384
Ah...12:00.
Yeah... I missed that. That's pretty bad.
Funny that he mentions the Bible as propaganda, but at around 12-14 min, he is basically spouting centuries old Christian propaganda (anti-Semitism).
>>43472627
have you ever listened to the guy talk for more than a minute? woo is a pseudointellectual shitlord xir. i bet he thinks he can get away with that talk because he thinks he's an 'enlightened person of color' and thus not subject to privilege checks or decorum.
>>43470801
>Don't run nacatls. Waste of time in burn.
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=10803&d=261795&f=MO
>>43474372
I can put a shitty card in a good deck too. Doesn't make the shitty card good.
So me and my friend are just getting into modern, I know mono green stompy is an excellent budget deck. Is there another deck on a siniliar power level we can build? I was thinking burn (without goblin guides, for cost reasons)
Travis "who knew he hated jews" Woo
>>43472231
>>different art splinter twins
whaaaaaaaaat
>>43475308
it's called a joke anon (hint: read splinter twin, then read kiki, then compare)
>>43474372
it's the worst topdeck ever
>>43474998
Keep them coming. Im drunk as fuck and they are giving me a good laugh.
>>43475393
if you're topdecking as burn you've already lost
>>43474951
I would say mono white Soul Sisters is on a similar level. Plus Path to Exile is a great staple to have. On the downside, Serra Ascendant can be fairly expensive.
Mono red burn is also a good idea. The Guides are expensive but there are replacements like Spark Elemental.
Mono U Tron might be an option if your friend wants more control.
>>43474951
Budget affinity is fun, though I don't know if it's on the same power level as green stompy. On the plus side, if you want to start investing real money, You can, you know, build Affinity.
>>43475534
Well for us to start , I want us to be on a similiar level, we both come from yugioh, so we're trying to get a feel for the game with a good, solid deck. I just didn't want to build something way better than we had since that's no fun for us.
>>43475437
My local card store has goblin guides for 21 (foil is 30), this seems like a pretty standard price. I think burn might be on a close enough power level to be fun or both of us and those decks are decent enough that we won't go 0/4 at FNM if we decide to go.
I don't yet posess a good enough grasp on this game to start dropping any major cash on cards.
>>43475658
Mono green infect can also work. My friend got it for like $50 CDN and it's perfectly capable of fast kills. Don't expect terribly fun games though.
>>43474951
troll worship, unless your LGS is full of tron and infect
>>43464665
What do you hope to accomplish if someone can cast more spells than you can counter? I don't see a win con anywhere.
>>43466022
here is the link for the rant. it's 40 minutes long.
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=w6GeBhSNyfw
>>43475858
fucked up the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6GeBhSNyfw
>>43475823
>I don't see a wincon anywhere
>what is jace?
>what is elspeth?
>what is elixir of immortality?
>what is that one obscure manland?
>what is fucking aetherling?
there are fucktons of wincons are you blind?
>>43475709
What do you mean, unfun games? I'm not very familiar with infect decks.
>>43475814
>>43475437
So burn, mono white sisters, infect, and maybe mono utron or troll worship? Seems like a decent list, I'll do some research. Thanks for your help guys
>tfw no legacy thread
Meren playable in BUG/Junk/Jund shells y/n?
>>43476007
Creatures with infect deal damage to players in the form of poison counters. When you get 10 poison, you lose. So infect just gets a 1/1 infect creature (Glistener Elf), plays a bunch of cheap pump spells (Mutagenic Growth, Might of Old Krosa, etc) and swings for 10 ASAP. If there's no blockers or early interaction, the game could be over on turn 2 with a single combat step. Plus, since they tend to go all in on the pump spells they usually don't have much interaction.
>>43469415
let me educate you
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/tier-1-modern
>>43476052
don't forget to mention scooping to lightning bolt
>>43476096
Well they usually have Vines of the Vastwood, Ranger's Guile or Apostle's Blessing. But yeah, if bolt/path/dismember/anything resolves the game is over.
I will say about budget mono green infect, it builds very easily into the standard competitive UG build. Things like Noble Hierarch and Inkmoth Nexus are staples, so that is a benefit as well. It is similar to burn in that regard. In comparison, Soul Sisters doesn't really build into anything else.
>>43476131
Soul sisters isn't really budget though. The only real upgrade you get with that is adding in auriok champions. And sisters is a great deck as long as you can steer clear of rg tron, infect and bogles.
>>43476088
Nice, the next Tier update is in 2 days.
Company/Zoo looks to be heading to T1 with the recent GP.
>>43470360
>>43470360
>>43470360
>>43470360
This is the best one.
>>43476207
I saw a deck that splashed red for this guy to get all the ETB triggers and used Purphoros, it was pretty funny
where can I look for some decent tier 2/3 decks that are not seen much? something like abzan aristocrats or r/g shamans
or if you know any could you give me some names so that I can look them up?
>>43476350
Boros sisters is definitely worse than mono white, but it's pretty neat when it works.
>>43476372
t r o l l w o r s h i p
cheap as hell makes and it makes people angry
>>43476372
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern
Everything is there, T1, T2, Competitive, and Creation subsections.
>>43476405
i sideboard altar of the brood for bridge, i don't see why i couldn't do it to kill worship decks.
>i make 60 pestermites
>flip your deck bruh
>>43465675
From their facebook
>>43476463
then I board in gaea's blessing
game is hard
what's a good temporary budget alternative for fulminator mage in living end?
>>43476559
Basically it would be avalanche riders. It is no where near as good and I would really recommend you just get the mages.
>>43476559
Molten rain probably.
>>43476559
avalanche riders? faultgrinder? molten rain?
>>43476595
I think Riders is better just because you can recur them with Living End. Molten is just a one time use.
>>43476504
walked right into my trickbind
>>43472346
Where are you watching it?
>>43476628
Molten rain fits the curve a little better though.
Either way it should work well enough.
>>43476686
You are right, I just think with the type of deck it would be better to get two LD out instead one just one.
Try them both out and see what works best for you.
>>43476647
willbender, trickbind now targets the altar activation :^)
>>43476372
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-72-26-tix-modern-rally-vampires
building a similar but using zulaport instead of kalatria highborn and cartel aristocrat instead of vamp aristo
>>43465535
>Twoo did nothing wrong
>>43476405
oh shiiit
>>43477175
nice. im currently building aristocrats with abzan ascendancy and coco.
>>43476372
now this is what I was looking for. thank you anon
Who /twin/ here?
What version of twin are you playing?
Any sweet tech?
Me, I play Tarmo Twin and have been loving Sudden Shock recently.
>>43477935
I don't play twin, but how has Sudden Shock been working out for you? When do you bring it in? How many are you playing?
>>43478017
Great. Bring it in against fish, affinity, young pyromancer, monastery mentor, and infect.
>>43478037
oh and naya burn because it's basically just more cheap interaction.
>>43475903
Planeswalkers are worthless in a deck with only four creatures, all it would take is one opponent's creature spell to get past one of his counters before it's dead. The Elixir of Immortality isn't a win con, what the fuck, all it's doing is letting him turtle a while longer without running out of cards. People told me /tg/ was bad at Magic but this delusion is ridiculous.
>>43478052
Cool, I actually play naya burn and I was thinking of putting a couple in. It's good for my meta and I didn't even think about it against some of those decks (fish).
How would you say Tarmo twin matches up with burn? I don't have any Tarmo twin pilots around to test against.
>>43478176
goyfs make a really insurmountable wall, and if you can twin out or cast huntmaster you usually just win. I run 2 thragtusks in the side too but they are for jund more than burn, though if you can survive to cast them they'll probably just win you the game. Basically it's a bit better than U/R twin against burn, but they have a bit more painful mana.
>>43470874
>I have written on my hand "DO NOT TALK ABOUT HITLER ON STREAM."
>Immediately rants about how Hitler was right on stream.
Maximum kek, this guy is a genius.
>>43478144
>get past his counters
looks like we got a casual over here, bet you haven't bought back a capsize in all of your fifteen years of life
I'm a casual twat who just wants to play with cards I like. I'll never go to anything larger than an FNM-size tournament.
How embarrassing would it be to play rhox war monk? Everything else I've got is pretty normal.
>>43478484
4/10, it's a tricolor rhino that gains you 3 life, but it's not quite as memey as i'm used to
>>43468388
>dude asks if he can trade for my goyf
>he hands me a standard binder with no jaces or fetchlands
>>43478484
play splinter twin on a stonehorn dignitary, if you gonna shit, then shit hard
>mfw someone did this to me at my first modern fnm when I was playing monogreen stompy
>didn't mainboard enchantment hate
anyone know what is the site to look up value of each booster box of different set?
I saw it once on /tg/ but didn't save it
>>43478484
I dont think its that bad. it survives to bolt and lifelink is a good tempo ability. what are you running it with?
What is a good deck for a ur-twin and tron meta? Most decks seem to have a good matchup vs one and bad vs the other, or otherwise terrible against both.
>>43476463
>altar
When ancient grudge exists?
>>43478697
http://www.mtgstocks.com/sets
For example Origins mid is $115 and BFZ mid is $99
>>43476445
If I just want to play at FNM and have fun (i.e. not lose every game) will the 'Developing Competetitive' decks be fine?
Will a tier 3 decks almost always lose to tier 1?
>>43475903
>not mentioning the best win con, sphinx's rev for 15
I only just started with Magic, and I wanted to hop straight into Modern. Mostly because the idea of cards becoming obsolete really doesn't ring well with me.
I was wondering where I should start. I bought the Deckbuilders Toolkit and the BFZ Event Deck, and I've been having a lot of fun abusing the shit out of sacrifice effects and Eldrazi Scions, and BG seem pretty good together.
I also played a GW buff deck my friend made and enjoyed that.
I was wondering if I should just go with what I've been doing thus far and make myself up a BG deck, or should I try and scrounge together some makeshift decks from my various cards and try out the other colours? Thanks.
>>43479851
If you want to play Modern as in competitive then you should look up some good decks and read some primers. Your own brews with your own limited card pool will have no chance what so ever.
If you just want casual play with friends then there is no advice to give except play what you want and have fun.
>>43479875
Yeah, I've only been playing with friends at the moment.
I've been looking at various decks of other colours, but I always end up being the most interested in Green/Whatever.
My cards at the moment are pretty shit, even if I've had a couple of lucky drawsfoil Flooded Strand in my first BFZ booster.
Thanks for the tips, I'll go to the FNM tomorrow and watch for a bit to see how out of my league I am.
>>43479884
You can do drafts until you decide what modern deck to buy into.
It's another format but it still gives general experience playing magic with better players and you are not punished for having a small collection.
>>43479976
I was interested in doing Drafts, but my LFGS only does them once a month. Although I might see if I can rope some friends into it.
>>43478272
Not to mention
>I'm gonna keep this short
>40 minutes
>>43478567
>splinter twin on a stonehorn dignitary
And a single copy of Stonehorn just found its way into my URW Twin. Surprisingly I had never actually considered that myself.
Where to from 8rack? Rock, Lantern, finish my UG infect, take some more student loan for Tron/Twin/Affinity?
Travis "if it's black don't put it on the stack" Woo
>>43476946
trickbind resolves, altar trigger is countered, gaea's blessing trigger on the stack, surgical extraction targeting gaea's blessing.
>>43477935
grixis twin; miser's shadow of doubt.
>>43479708
Tiers are about representation in competitive play, not power level.
Travis "invoke prejudice" woo
Travis "I've decided to stop brewing and play dredge" Woo
>>43480824
Best in thread
>>43480749
Those 2 things are tied tho. A weak deck won't see any representation or good results in competitive play just like how a tier 1 deck won't be weak.
A deck is good/high tier because it overall it has a favorable matchup against the rest of the format.
>>43480950
Sometimes a good deck is good because it's predators are kept down by other decks.
>>43481161
> because it's predators are kept down by other decks.
Which means that the predators aren't a big part of the format which means that the statement "because it overall it has a favorable matchup against the rest of the format." is true.
>>43481247
Indeed.
So why does everyone take Magic so seriously, /tg/? Why are people with fun deck ideas called casuals and laughed at? Why does everyone have to play top tier decks and why are top tier decks always conveniently the decks you happen to play?
Why do you insist on making mtg not fun?
>>43481642
>Comes into a thread clearly not for him
>High skill decks/matches aren't fun cause I say so.
>"Play mtg my way because if you don't you are playing the game wrong and not having fun cause I say so"
Leave, shitposter.
>>43481642
>So why does everyone take Magic so seriously, /tg/?
Modern is a serious format
>Why are people with fun deck ideas called casuals and laughed at?
Because modern is a serious format
>Why does everyone have to play top tier decks and why are top tier decks always conveniently the decks you happen to play?
Modern is a serious format
>Why do you insist on making mtg not fun?
We don't. Fun is subjective. If you don't find modern fun there are other threads with other formats that can be fun for you. Now get fucked pleb shitposter
>>43479573
thanks anon. This is even more helpful than the one i saw before since the other one
>>43481642
Listen here you second-rate spell shaper, I'm a mother fucking wizard. You know what that means? Of course you don't. You can't do shit without someone else's help. Always need an idea here, mana boost there. Maybe if you spent more time studying and less time with a Rod of Ruin up your ass you might learn a thing or two. Now get the fuck off my plane before I sic a goyf on you.
>>43481690
>implying "top tier" decks require any amount of skill
>implying everyone in modern wants to play "top tier" decks
>people who don't want to play "top tier" decks are in the wrong format
>"play mtg my way because if you don-f you are playing the game wrong and being a filthy casual cause I say so"
Who is the real shit poster here?
In a podcast patrick says he refused to go along with the skin heads in prison and would play chess and basketball with the blacks. When he came out he was sporting a buzz cut, he must have conform with the rest. Just look at his scrawny self, he must have been seen as prime boy pussy.
>>43481752
Dank may mmayz, leddit
>>43481781
If you want to play your shitty brew, why restrict yourself to modern legal cards? Go nuts!
Now fuck off.
>>43481798
>can't even respond in character
Who doesn't like fun now?
>>43481960
Row row, fight tha powah
>>43481810
>>43481695
>bottomirritation.png
Other formats are too open for good games. Formats like vintage or legacy include cards that were designed back when mtg R&D had no idea what they were doing and as such are hilariously unbalanced and easily broken. In fact, with Modern ' s comprehensive ban list ensuring no particular card is too broken or too anti-fun, modern is the best format for new players or players looking to play proper Magic for the enjoyment of it. To arbitrarily decide that modern is a "serious format" is to do a disservice to the format with the most variety in cards and the most balanced design (at least, compared to all the other formats).
Standard is the "serious" format in mtg, and that is why standard is shit (to me obviously)
>>43482227
>Formats like vintage or legacy include cards that were designed back when mtg R&D had no idea what they were doing
you do know mirrodin is modern legal right
>>43480262
dispel :^^^^^)
