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Previous thread: >>68171747

News:


>Lesnar fighting Hunt in UFC 200 comain
http://www.mmamania.com/2016/6/6/11866884/ufc-200-haunted-brock-lesnar-announces-fight-mark-hunt-july-9-las-vegas-mma

>UFC 199 salaries (not including bonuses/ reebux)
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/06/ufc-199-salaries-cruz-350k-bisping-250k-rockhold-250k-earn-top-disclosed-payouts-1

>The other mandrama guy is targeted to fight at UFC 202
http://larrybrownsports.com/mma/cm-punk-fight-mickey-gall-ufc-202/307276
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https://youtu.be/Ac7Xw8imN4E?t=2h6m5s
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Let's remember the good times, guys
What are some of your favourite memories of Ariel Helwani?
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Ariel Helwani has more twitter followers than 8 UFC champions.

Ariel Helwani makes otherwise vanilla fighters interesting.

He stimulates press conferences, he gives fighters a platform to express themselves and become more likable, he gets information out to fans more effectively than most fighters could do.

Zuffa made a huge mistake here, especially if fighters under their control are forbidden from being guests on the MMA Hour.
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>>68174022
That time he raped the poor minority Nick Diaz by asking why he was late to a press conference! Nick Diaz is a persecuted Latino man, of course he's going to be late!
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i don't really give a shit about jewani

we should move on instead and get hyped for mcdonald's vs wonderpedo

>>68174022
none
well, mayhem miller literally raping his podcast on his podcast was good
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Real thread

>>68173963
>>68173963
>>68173963

Real thread
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>>68174057
I do let you bang bro
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>>68174091
>thread wars

leave
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>>68174022
I remember that time he implied he wasn't a zuffa shill, oh the laughs I had
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>>68174129
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>Cant believe they banned le down to earth reporter

Lol u faggots are pathetic. Nothing is gonna change. Dana learned he can do what he wants with impunity because the fans continually suck zuffa shaft

Dana just slipped it in another inch.
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>I get paid 0 (zero) dollars by Lorenzo and Dana to disparage a journalist exercising his first right amendments
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https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/739878459669778432?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
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>caring about Helwani
>caring about Rogan

Their is a far better option you know.
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well, if ariel has the same luck as sherwood, he will get his press credentials back in 5 years
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>>68174201
Black will replace Rogan once he retires
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>>68174153
>Dana bans a guy that continually leaks private info, even after having been warned at least a dozen times
>Bad

Waaaaahhhh! You'll have to hear the Brock announcment at 10pm instead of 8pm. Waaaaahhhh! You'll know about the next UFC main event when they release a trailer for it, instead of 2 days earlier. Waaaaaaahhhhhhh!

Ariel was tabloid tier.
The only 2 current mma stories
are how Jon Jones blood test results for the first Cormier fight were never released, and how Brock has an exemption from USADA testing, but no one wants to report on those.
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>>68174157
The first amendment only protects you from the government, private corporations can still shut their doors to you without violating it

why the fuck do I know your constitution better than you do, burger
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Anybody willing to redraw Cruz. Take away the lats and make him skinnier but leave the wojak face.
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>>68174161
that link doesn't work
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>>68174233
Please point out where I said anything about it being illegal

I'll be waiting
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say hello the next MW champ
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>>68174235

QUIT TRYING TO MAKE FUN OF MY BOY YOU GOOF
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>>68174252
His first right amendments aren't being violated though

It has nothing to do with that
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>>68174157
>Its my first amendment right to get paid to go on a live Fox show, get ringside seats to every fight, and to get one-on-one exclusive interviews with fighters the night of the fight while eating off a UFC paid-for buffet

Lol
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>2 threads every time

stop it or I'll go to reddit you faggots
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>>68174201
>50 Reebux have been deposited into your account. Thank you for your services!
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>>68174286
These morons keep making threads 30 posts early. Mods need to step up.
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>yfw you remember Ariel breaking Watergate
>yfw you remember Ariel calling the moonlanding

w-will it ever be the same again bros?

Can it be that it was all so simple then?
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>>68174269
I didn't say they were violated, bud.

Try again, next time.

>>68174276
Didn't say that, lol
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>>68174317
Then clarify your point, what exactly is the reason you're bringing up the first amendment? It has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion between Helwani and the UFC
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>>68174317
youre so fucking fat and dumb

i genuinely hate you fwiw
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Will the sport ever be the same without the jew we all know, love, and think about every day?
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>>68173979
Is this sheckel harvester the new big meme?
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>>68174339
He's just being a journalist and exercising his rights. It's nothing to do with illegality rather than Dana and Lorenzo just being butthurt over absolutely nothing.

His rights apparently infringe upon their feelings too much
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>>68174357
There's some drama going on about him, apparently
I just saw everyone talking about him and decided to make the op topical
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>>68174345
I'm actually an atomweight :P
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>>68174369
Okay so you're basically just saying the first amendment is a thing that exists

I'm glad you brought that up, I'm sure nobody knew
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>people on bloodytampondotcom unironically picking against Mark "Heem" Hunt
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>>68174407

>bork going to fight without USADA testing

do you hate money?
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Main Card (Pay-per-view)
Michael Bisping ($250,000 + no win bonus = $250,000) def. Luke Rockhold ($250,000)
Dominick Cruz ($350,000 + no win bonus = $350,000) def. Urijah Faber ($160,000)
Max Holloway ($75,000 + $75,000 = $150,000) def. Ricardo Lamas ($53,000)
Dan Henderson ($600,000 + $200,000 = $800,000) def. Hector Lombard ($53,000)
Dustin Poirier ($55,000 + $55,000 = $110,000) def. Bobby Green ($24,000)

Preliminary Card (FOX Sports 1)
Brian Ortega ($23,000 + $23,000 = $46,000) def. Clay Guida ($55,000)
Beneil Dariush ($31,000 + $31,000 = $62,000) def. James Vick ($23,000)
Jessica Andrade ($20,000 + $20,000 = $40,000) def. Jessica Penne ($20,000)
Alex Caceres ($24,000 + $24,000 = $48,000) def. Cole Miller ($33,000)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
Sean Strickland ($23,000 + $23,000 = $46,000) def. Tom Breese ($19,000)
Luis Henrique da Silva ($10,000 + $10,000 = $20,000) def. Jonathan Wilson ($12,000)
Kevin Casey ($15,000) vs. Elvis Mutapcic ($16,000)
Polo Reyes ($12,000 + $12,000 = $24,000) def. Dong Hyun Kim ($10,000)
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>>68174402
Well it's apparently nobody knew since that what Ariel is being disparaged for doing

Or do you need an explanation for this, too?
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>>68174369
And Dana and Lorenzo are just being businessmen and exercising their rights.
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>>68173979
Good riddance.
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>all the fighters are now being instructed by Zuffa to not speak to Helwani.
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>>68174467
MY FAMILY WAS BANNED FROM TALKING TO FIGHTERS AN HAD TO MOVE TO CANADA
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>>68174431

I'm all for Hunt getting paid, same with Diaz. Unironic lifetime boys
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>>68174467
RIP in peace Jewani
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>>68174444
More like abusing, but sure whatever. Whatever justifies your own current cucked state working a low wage temp job
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>>68174434
>Dan Henderson wants to stay in the business for the fans and his love for the sport
>fans
>love for the sport
>not his 800k $ paycheks per fight
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>Bork coming back
>hmm maybe he's been training all this time? Might be interesting but his striking is still going to be lacking
>Fighting Mark fucking Hunt
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>>68174434
>Hendo has a guarenteed $600,000
Good for him
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>>68174497
RUSEV CRUSHKA
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>>68174506
>>68174497
reebok is awesome guys lol they got our vets on the back end lol
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>>68174497
I think he'd have to redo his contract before another fight though. I doubt he would still command such money.
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>>68174434
>Dan Henderson ($600,000 + $200,000 = $800,000)

w-why won't Hendo retire guys???
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where can I watch this "where are they now" series from fitepass without buying fitepass
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>>68174497

After what he did to hector im all for him getting brain damage in the off chance he gets a vicious heem.
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>>68174531
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ooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo I'm the ghost of ariel helwani's career oooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo
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>>68174493
How exactly is it an abuse?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUOKSHK6a4
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>>68174436

Are you saying people shouldn't be disparaged for what they say because of the first amendment?

The first amendment doesn't mean we have to automatically like everything someone says.

Certainly you're not forced to invite them to private events, comp their services, and cut them a paycheck.
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>>68174434
Who got FOTN? Isn't that 50k?
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>>68174552
It's excessive and stupid. They're acting unreasonably

Anything else you'd like answered?
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>>68174497
>>68174530
the dude got the most brutal knock out of the night and maybe in league history.

It was worth the 800k, thanks Hendo for being the HEEM master. Not a boring score card playing shitter like Cruz.
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>>68174552
Just because

Gosh why don't you guys get it?
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>>68174201
He's annoying as fuck on twitter. Had to unfollow.
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>>68174550

>implying the jew is unhappy about all this attention
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I will never follow UFC journalism again

Jon Fitch was bad but this is on another level

I cannot believe what they would do to a man whos family had to flee to Canada because of their religion
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>>68174436
Again, what on earth does the first amendment have to do with anything?

The first amendment protect Ariel from being arrested for free speech. Are you saying the UFC somehow tricked him into believing his was being arrested?
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>>68174577
>the cruz fight was boring

Maybe its just because I dislike faber but that fight was a fucking masterful performance. I loved it.
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is anyone actually supporting the UFC in this? Taking away Ariel's passes is only going to make him a martyr in the eyes of the enlightened. And, it's not like he's just going to stop reporting the news. If anything, he's going to report more because he can just report whatever the fuck he wants because there's nothing for him to lose.
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>>68174614
God you are such a fucking retard.
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>>68174577
Cruz almost finished Faber 3 times and was actively looking for a knockout. You're a dumbass.
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>you know remembers that Faber almost got dropped by Cruz, twice
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>>68174574
You just rephrased your outrage at the situation. What makes it unfair?
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>>68174649
almost lol he did get dropped twice
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Dominic Cruz is a boring faggot and anyone whiteknighting for helwani is a faggot too.

Reminder that if you don't spend money on the UFC, your opinion doesnt matter.
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>>68174649
He did get dropped by him, twice
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>>68174620
nobody EVER went for a finish, both were ultra conservative score card playing shitters for 5 rounds.

You can call it "masterful" if you want, but at its core its cowardly and safe. Not all that entertaining especially compared to Hendo killing a man on live TV.
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>>68174574
But you keep mentioning rights. It may be excessive, but what does that have to do with Ariel's rights? He has no right to be given media access, and his first amendment rights aren't being infringed upon.
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>>68174661
well I meant almost got heemed

Fuck you for making me look like a fool now.
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>>68174628
You said he was disparaged for using the first amendment.

Again, did the UFC ever say that they disagree with his first amendment right to not be arrested for free speech?
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>>68174645
>almost finished
>actively looking for a knock out
lol thats just plain untrue.
Stunned him and then backed off because "well idk maybe he'll catch me with something IM SCARED!"
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>>68174660
I didn't rephrase anything. Do you somehow equate abuse of a right as illegal?

>what makes it unfair

It's a stupid reason to ban him. The reason was really utterly inconsequential and they're causing more of a stir with this whole thing

You know the answers to these. You're just desperate to seem the slightest bit intelligible in this.
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>Lesnar'd gonna get HEEM's by Based Hunto

M E M E M A G I C
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>Maybe talking shit will help me get my credentials back
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>>68174434
>dong took off 10 years off his life for $10000 and the chance to take 5 years off Reyes life
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>>68174645
>actively looking for a knockout
>Diaz

You only get one buddy
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https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/freehelwani/
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>Bisping is the champ
>knocks out Luke on two weeks notice
>no one cares because of Ariel
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>>68174694
see
>>68174669

Faber kicked him in the face.
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>>68174665
Listen, my "just bleed" friend, most fights arent two guys taking turns heeming eachother. You'll figure that out after you have seen more than a few cards.
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>>68174665
It's masterful in the same way Mayweather could be described as masterful. Evasive boxing for points. At the end of the day, the record stands and the wins count, but your average fan doesn't enjoy it.
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>>68174668
All I said was that Ariel utilized his rights as a journalist. It's not the main issue here. You keep bringing it up despite it not being relevant to the discussion anymore

>he has no right to be given media access

Like I already said you fucking retard, I didn't say he had right to that

Are you just being as autistic as possible to evade the actual point Zuffa are being unreasonable? Just focusing on and twisting words?
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>>68174434
>Dan Henderson ($600,000 + $200,000 = $800,000) def. Hector Lombard ($53,000)

whew lad
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>>68174735
I care. It makes me happy every time I think about it.
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>>68174727
lmao
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>>68174694
Except it is true you fucking retard. Did you even watch the fight? He almost finished Faber with almost the exact position he had Mizugaki in and was constantly pressing Faber whenever he landed a combo
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>>68174763
>53k
And that poor cunt Lombard was in a literal coma for an hour.
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>>68174696
>It's a stupid reason to ban him.
Not an argument

>The reason was really utterly inconsequential

You have no way of knowing what impact it had or what value the UFC places on stuff. It is also silly to assume this was the result of just one event.

>and they're causing more of a stir with this whole thing
100% irrelevant
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ariel exercised his rights, ufc exercised theirs
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>>68174688
>did the UFC ever say that they disagree with his first amendment right to not be arrested for free speech

Oh boy, Zuffa shills can't argue the actual point so they'll just keep actually rephrasing and strawmanning.

Ariel was acting as a journalist. The UFC punished him mainly because they're emotional women

I've stated this several times already. Keep up.
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Was it disclosed to helwhiny that the bork story was confidential? If it was, then the goof has no leg to stand on.
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>>68174820
You seem to be deeply confused about what the UFC, as a private business, is obligated to do.

You seem to be deeply confused about the difference between a right and a privilege.
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>>68174817
rekt
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>>68174821
He literally said that nobody told him anything about it being confidential etc

He also said that every time he's ever tried to run something past the UFC before reporting on it, they'd have no comment or they'd lie to his face
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>>68174798
>not an argument

To what? Their right to ban him? Of course not you fucking retard, it's still a stupid reason.

>You have no way of knowing what impact it had

I can make reasonable assumptions. And you can reasonably assume this did absolutely nothing. It's actually silly to assume it did. It's even sillier to think that any of this is the slightest bit of a reasonable reaction

>100% irrelevant

It 100% is, because if you're to damage control why cause more damage?

You seem to be very autistic and taking everything at face value
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Daily reminder that official USADA rules state that a fighter coming out of retirement must submit to 4 months of drug testing, but that Lesnar has been granted a USADA exemption.
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>>68174623
It was a stupid decision on the UFC's part, but I don't morally fault them for cutting ties with a journalist who's ruining all their big releases.
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>>68174842
You seem to be deeply confused about human linguistics.

Please point out once where I said the UFC had no right to ban Ariel

Or are you just pretending to be retarded again because you know how fucking dumb you're acting when it comes to the fact the UFC overreacted?
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>>68174753
You said that Ariel is just being a journalist and exercising his rights, to which I replied that Dana and Lorenzo are being businessmen and exercising their rights, at which point you said that Dana and Lorenzo's exercise of their rights was an "abuse". You have given an answer. All you've said is that it's "excessive and stupid" and that they're acting "unreasonably" but you haven't given any reason as to why, nor given any justification for you classifying it as an abuse.
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>>68174865
lol who cares
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>>68174865
Do you hate fun?
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>>68174867
What exactly is ruined? Most people are in the camp that nothing was ruined. It's a personal vendetta and nothing more. It's childish. But of course retards will interpret this as "b-b-but corporations have rights too!!!!", not only completely missing the point but perpetuating a big issue.
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>>68174854
>He literally said that nobody told him anything about it being confidential etc

I'm sure he thought the UFC was cool with him releasing that Brock Lesnar was returning the UFC before they announced...

Especially after he had already been fired twice before for leaking fights...
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TFW SPORTSNATION IS TALKING ABOUT HELWANI
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>tfw I take over from Helwani

lelelelel
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>>68174865
>non fight fan detected.
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>>68174865
Daily reminder that Jon Jones' blood test from his first fight was Cormier was never released. The athletic commission released the results of 5 urine tests, but his blood test result was covered up.
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>Go in kitchen
>See mom is watching Ellen Degenerate show
>Ronda is on it
>She looks really good
>Laughing and having fun
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>>68174865
Should I survive this tropical storm I'll be boycotting the PPV.
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>>68174903
you now remember tanner died in the desert from dehydration after his motorbike stopped working and he decided to walk back home
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>>68174885
>but you haven't given any reason why

I think it's stupid and excessive, I disagree with the punishment. I don't see what you're actually trying to get out of this

Here you are again extrapolating a single word as something larger. Abuse of a right is still a right. That doesn't mean I can't think it's excessive or stupid

Or are you trying to tell me otherwise? You realize being this intentionally obtuse doesn't help you, right? It's making you look dumber than you already are.
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>This mental sparring between a literal retard who is upset at the actions of private corporations and people who think private corporations dont have any obligation to act in the best interest of other companies

Truly is big government in here

>muh private company acted poorly and WRONG and UNFAIR :'(
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>>68174932
What's mom making for dinner?
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>>68174950
Yes, that's the point. Nobody is disputing the legality of this. Do you feel smart yet for finally understanding the point, samefag?
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what if Cuck Thomas got kicked out? I don't think people would have cared at all.
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>>68174856
You saying your assumptions are reasonable doesn't make them reasonable. It means you're just making assumptions. Let's try to use actual facts. The consequences of the UFCs actions are 100% irrelevant to determining whether the original action was just or not.

You are clearly emotional and defensive (name calling and the general tones of your posts) so I won't waste anymore time trying to have a conversation with you. Enjoy your day.
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Has anyone posted a webm of Ariel crying yet?
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>>68174974
Luke wanted this to happen, hated Ariel from the get go. His time to shine, baby
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>>68174974
None of the security staff would have made it out alive.
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I like how all of Ariel's buddies are writing articles about this ruining the UFC when they are literally the only people who care besides Reddit.
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>>68174946
What rights were abused?

He had privileges taken away.
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>>68174946
>I think it's stupid and excessive, I disagree with the punishment.
You've said this multiple times now. The question is why? Apparently this entire talk of the "first amendment" and "abuse" of "rights" has just been a very long-winded way of saying that you disagree with the decision without having to justify your position.
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>>68174974
Not even Ariel would have cared.
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>>68175007
#freehelwaini

I'm doing MY PART

#WARELAMIE
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>>68174820

You're the one who brought up the first amendment, goof.

>>68174902

They would rather not have someone releasing information about Brock's fight at UFC 200 before their promotional material. This is more than enough reason to revoke Ariel's privileges, not to mention all the problems they've had with him in the past.
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>>68174980
>doesn't make them reasonable

Thanks, dumbass. That's why we're having this discussion. Of course you're such a fucking autist you're literally disputing every single word as if it's some definitive factual claim

>the consequences of the UFC's actions are 100% irrelevant to determining whether the original action was just or not

Well it seems pretty obvious that they were attempting to damage control and only made a bigger mess. So yes I think it's an entirely relevant discussion point for someone who isn't a gigantic autist like yourself

>name calling

Cry more you fucking pussy.

>so I wont' waste anymore time

In other words you realize you were arguing about facts and not debating subjectivity and realized how fucking autistic you were

Congrats.
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>>68174942
>"It seems some MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) websites have reported on the story, posting up that I might die out in the desert, or that it might be my greatest opponent yet, etc. Come on, guys. It's really common down in Southern California to go out to the off-road recreation areas in the desert about an hour away from LA and San Diego. "So my plan is to go out to the desert, do some camping, ride the motorcycle, and shoot some guns. Sounds like a lot of fun to me. A lot of people do it. This isn't a version of 'Into the Wild.'"
Jesus. It's sad that he died, but fuck, everyone was telling him not to do it.
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UFC's last two YT videos are getting shit on in terms of their like/dislike ratio

Not that it matters, just interesting to observe
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>>68175031
WE DID IT REDDIT
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>>68174998
True. Luke is a big guy and takes creatine.
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>>68174770
kek
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>>68175007
>ruining the UFC

Lol.

Brock Retard fights in literally one month. No one will even remember who Ariel is after UFC 200
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>This thread
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>>68175047
same thing happened when Stitch got fired

the question is how long will it last before people get bored of doing?
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All this ariel stuff aside i feel like this usada bs is rigged no way wwe lesnar is not on roids right now
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>>68174902
A lot of fans would have preferred to hear about Brock at the event first.
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>>68175047
UFC 200 is still going to 1.9 million buys.
Then two months later, Conor/Nate with CM Punk is going to break 2 million.
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The ufc has every right and good reason to banish ariel for leaking info. What exactly is the controversy here?
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>>68175018
we need to know how outraged he is that a Jew doesn't get free stuff anymore. He is REALLY mad.
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>>68175034
That's a really shitty reason.

>>68175018
>why

Because I think so. Again what the fuck are you expecting? Are you still under the stupid impression that I'm arguing facts of the matter? I think don't think the punishment fits the crime, what do you want?

>apparently this entire talk of first amendment and abuse has been a way of saying you disagree with the decision

Great, you finally caught on after me telling you a dozen other times you giant fucking aspie

>without having to justify your position

Justify what? My opinion? I'm saying I disagree with the decision, what else do you want? You continue to twist words like "abuse" into meaning "illegal" because you can't actually argue anything.
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>>68175071
random twitter goof btfo'd
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>>68175073
I give it a week, couple of days at the most. Very interesting to observe internet outrage. It's like the Fine Brothers craic
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>>68175085
Hunt is the natty king and will heem him
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Can someone post the webm of Big Sexy manhandling Mark Hunt?
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>>68175066
Early stoppage desu
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>>68175094
We get it man, you're dumb, angry, and can't articulate your position. Relax.
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>>68175086
The fans clearly didn't seem to care either way as evident of the entire controversy
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>>68175100
Pies and beer versus HGH
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lads which fight will be featued fight pass prelim for 200?

Mousasi/Brunson maybe?
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>>68175073
I didnt care about stitch tho this is different. This reached national platforms the stitch duran story was nowhere on espn or others
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>>68175046
did he just not bring enough water or something basic? he sounds reasonable, going camping out in the dunes

but if everyone knew he'd fuck it up and he did fuck it up i imagine he was doing some dumb shit like not eating or drinking water
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>>68175085
Thats what the Ariel stuff is about. Its all a distraction while the UFC pulls more shady shit with Lesnar's and Jones' drug tests.
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>>68175118
I stated it multiple times. I'm sorry you're a fucking autist and can't read basic English

>its your fault I'm stupid

That'd be your parents fault for not aborting you, sonny
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requesting the Yoel Romero "heem yourself my man" pic

please.
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Anyone here a journalist or works in the field?
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>>68175131
>journalists receive threats

wew lad, I would never have known.
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>>68175100
absolutely steroids or not you cant lift weights with your chin as they say. He did say on sportscenter that one good punch from mark would knock off the rust and hed be back. I thought at that moment brock is gonna get ko'd thinking he can take a punch from hunt.
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>>68175161
I'm Arial Halwani. ama
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>>68175147
No, you've just continued to express outrage and say "it's like totally unfair guys just cause". You can't actually provide a logical argument to support your position. Just your tears are keeping it afloat.
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>>68175183
Are you planning to kys?
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>>68175183
haha stupid kike get rekt by skinhead dana white.
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>>68175161
not anymore i literally fucking quit because of this fiasco


#warhawliawa
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>>68175172
Brock has a good chin, he just doesn't react well to getting hit.
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>>68175094
>why?
>Because I think so. Again what the fuck are you expecting?
An explanation. Is this really so hard to comprehend? when you go about insulting people for disagreeing with you, it usually helps to explain why you disagree.
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>>68175183

After getting ethics in journalism "stuffed down your throat", how did you feel about reporting on the UFC while being on salary with Zuffa?
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>millions of people lose their jobs and homes over jew fuckery ie. stock market, fedral reserve, banks..
no one gives a fuck, they just give them more money..

>1 jew loses his job because he is fucking dummy
massive outrage, white house petitions..
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>>68175161
yes i write for infowars
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>>68173979
funnily enough, what bothers me the most about this is robin black`s kicking a man when he is down. especially because the comparison he is making is wrong and he is a talentless 50 year old ex addict rockstar turned mma fighter talent show judge.
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>>68175206
I think he is too worked up right now to even realize how dumb he is.

"It's unfair just because"
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>>68175051

And he's also a former Marine, so he has experience in killing.
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>>68175212
Shut up before I shut you up.
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>>68175219
ya mean this ?
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>>68175194
My logical argument is that the punishment doesn't fit the crime. It's a completely subjective issue with no right answer. Of course you're going to continue to be a giant aspie and literally argue as if it's arguing a law of physics.

You're asking for a reasoning behind a reason, almost something subconscious, as if asking this somehow makes an opinion on a discussion of the ethics of something irrelevant to the discussion

In other words you're a retard who thinks being his witty but isn't. You aren't actually arguing against my opinion. Just the idea of it
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>>68175137
Just heard of this myself, but apparently he didn't bring enough water, wanted to refill at a spring, but it was unexpectedly dry, and then he refused his friends' over to send help.
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>>68175203
I would rather get heemed than fly around the ring spinning around tbqh
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>>68175200
kek
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>>68175212

REEEEEEEE ETHICS IN JOURNALISM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>68175212
Do you care either way? So why are you even complaining?
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>>68175244

Is this the dumbest poster on /heem/?
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>>68175271

#istandwithDana

i care because i have to read this nonsense in my shitty thread im reading in bed at 7am
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>>68175277
yes
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>>68175203
Thats actually a good point its not that he gets ko'd more that he spazzes out and gets afraid. He needs to go full hulk mode again. However this fight he will need to keep his distance and wait for a good shot and go for the takedown. He has no chance on the feet with hunto
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Retards: Are you actually saying the UFC doesn't have a right to this??????

Smart people: No, simply saying it's wrong

Retards: But they can do it, they have every right too, fuck morals, just look at what they can do!!!!

Smart people: I'm not saying they can't, I disagree with the reaction, like most moral and sensible people

Retards: But muh emotions!!!! Stop arguing feelings, I have none!!!!
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>>68174979
>based pat getting subbed

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>68175242
I don't get this tweet. Here's a heem to whomever explains it to me.
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>>68175244
>you're asking me for my reasoning
I know, it's a crazy thing to expect from somebody.
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>>68175277
>>68175290
>if i samefag, he might stop

Not a chance, kiddo

Go ahead and tell me how giving an opinion on a subjective issue is somehow entirely irrelevant though, I'll wait :^)
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>>68175277
Yup. Probably a Jew too.
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Some of the responses (if genuine) inside this thread and earlier threads are incredible. As a sports reporter, wow.
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>>68175301
the same argument can be used for Ariel leaking the Brock news just a couple of hours before the big announcement.
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>>68175301
>Smart people think corporations should be guided by subjective morals and not objective profit seeking

you need to fuck off forever
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>>68175301
last 2+ threads summed up
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>>68175323
>I'll horrifically paraphrase, that's a good trick!!!!!
>>
>Fitch gets cut
Reddit does nothing
>Burt gets fired
Reddit does nothing
>Okami gets cut
Reddit does nothing
>Stitch gets fired
Reddit does nothing
>Maldanado gets cut
Reddit does nothing
>Helwani gets banned
....

See a pattern here?

Nobody will give a fuck by the time UFC 200 comes and goes.
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This is now a Rose thread.
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>>68175242
Aye lad
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>Its unethical for a journalist to accept more than $30 in gifts
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY AM I NOT GETTING FREE FLOOR TICKETS TO UFC 200! THIS IS CENSORSHIP!!!
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>>68175301
>calling himself ''smart people''
Literally kill yourself.
Also, this is the most clear cut case of someone biting the hand that feeds him and paying for it. The fact is, you don't have any sort of argument for your stance and have taken it because:
a) you're jewani dickrider
b) you want to be edgy and contrarian
Either way, kill yourself post haste.
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>>68175346
That was a bit of a stretch there zippy
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>>68175301
>Smart people: No, simply saying it's wrong
But you haven't explained why it's wrong. Things aren't wrong just because you declare them to be.
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Retards: Are you actually saying Helwani doesn't have a right to report Brocks fight??????

Smart people: No, simply saying it's wrong

Retards: But he can do it, he has every right too, fuck morals, just look at what he can do!!!!

Smart people: I'm not saying he can't, I disagree with the reaction, like most moral and sensible people

Retards: But muh emotions!!!! Stop arguing feelings, I have none!!!!
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>>68175308
Go back to lebbit.
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>>68175361
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>>68175353
>I'm mad so I don't need logic
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>>68175354
>tfw im not even very excited for ufc 200. top 3 fights on the card thats really it for me. I just dont care enough to goto the bar that early
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>>68175321
well he is calling ariel gossip media while he believes the incredibly mediocre fight analyses he makes are infinetly better than what ariel does. they apparently had beef. he seems salty and jealous imo. plus he is paid by the ufc. so fuck him.
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>>68175354
to be fair, none of those people were part of the chosen people
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>>68173979
Anyone else don't give a shit about this meme fighter?

Fucking WWE babbies on ariels balls for wuining le supwise. Who give's a shit.
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watching the mma hour now

anyone have any tutorials on how to stop crying?
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so is bork fighting after jones vs dc?
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Guys, let this be a lesson to you.

Take away a Jews free stuff and face the wrath.
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if ariel is half the journalist he thinks he is he knew perfectly well how dana and the bros would react if he pissed them off
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Who will win Mark Hunt or Brock Lesnar?
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>>68175346
What objective profit is there to canning your most popular journalist?

An early utterly inconsequential leak?

It's a personal vendetta and nothing else. They are being guided by emotions
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>>68175416
my thoughts exactly ... how is bork relevant today still boggles my mind. is ufc the new lellator ?
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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/6/6/11870434/ufc-199-media-condemns-ufc-treatment-ariel-helwani-brock-lesnar-return-report-mma-news

-Jeff Fagenheim of the Washington Post gave his thoughts, saying that, "away from the arena lights, the UFC showed why it lingers on the infantile fringe of the sports world."
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Ariel's morals got in his way of having a comfy job for life with the UFC. Silly lad.
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>>68175396
I said you asked for reason behind reason, something almost subconscious, it's stupid and you're stupid for asking.

It's like asking what makes you happy, then someone gives you an answer, then you ask them why that something is the reason

Why haven't you killed yourself?
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>>68175432
>I know how the UFC calculates the value of Helwani and I can say for certain he is valuable to them overall

:^)

Nice MBA bra, which school you go to?
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>>68175321
The way rockhold sort of shivers/twitches at the end always makes me feel a bit nauseus
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>>68175431
>Rose favours Brock over Hunto
DROPPED
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>>68174235
>Signs that she's into you: she licks her lips.
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>>68175448

Ariel was on Zuffa payroll while reporting on the UFC. Morals?
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>>68175446
is he wrong though?
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>>68175446
Are you a div or what? Like legitimately?
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>>68175446
>Jeff Fagenheim
>heim

everytime
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10416483
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>>68175458
How do you know he isn't?

Your circular logic serves you absolutely nothing.

You can't say the UFC are acting in profititable ways then tell me I don't know what they are

Are you part of the UFC brass? Of course not, you're a fat underemployed NEET
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