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Upcoming MMA events
December 4 - Bellator 147
December 10 - UFC FN: VanZant vs Namajunas
December 11 - TUF 22 Finale: Mendes vs Edgar
December 12 - UFC 194: Chris "The Chris" Weidman retains his belt
December 19 - UFC on Fox 17: RDA vs Cerrone II
January 2nd - UFC 195: Lawler vs Condit


>UFC Fight Pass VanZant vs Namajunas Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL33me6jGO4

>UFC 194 Embedded on FOX: Aldo vs McGregor Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-dNR1KH3Q

>Lawler not injured
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/672619507530223616

> UFC 194 extended preview
https://youtu.be/5-dKGd67g0Y

>TUF 22:Edgar vs Mendes/PVZ vs Namajunas conference call
https://youtu.be/trS7baRO7lY

>UFC 194 conference call
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWZaqpLCLUs

>Bisping vs Mousasi added to FN 83
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/12/1/9826218/michael-bisping-vs-gegard-mousasi-among-additions-to-ufc-fight-night

>rogan confirmed scared of cyborg
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/12/1/9826226/joe-rogan-takes-full-responsibility-for-cris-cyborg-joke-formally-dana-white-ufc-wmma

>Jews did 9/11 proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcPB9rpt45Q

>Faber open to a fight with Silly Dilly
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/11/30/9816790/morning-report-ufc-194-mcgregor-aldo-urijah-faber-dillashaw-rousey-mma-news

>A look into the mind of a fighter facing Aldo
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/11/27/9798748/the-night-we-faced-jose-aldo-ufc-194-conor-mcgregor

MMADigest update: http://youtu.be/Ji4E4mWz3E4
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whos more reddit, conor or aldo?
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>>63977497
aldo
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Third for can't tell the difference between Ireland and Italy.
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First for mimi
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how come Canadian fighters never carry the Canadian flag with them to the ring before fights? Do they lack patriotism?
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>>63977497
Aldo by far.
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I predict teez tingz
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>>63977582

There's nothing in Canada worth being patriotic about.
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>>63977582
also you could say the same thing about black Americans in the UFC
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>>63977583
>"The Fist"

Seriously?
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>>63977583

That guy on the right is ROIDED OUT
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>>63977511
>>63977606
why do you think that? seems like every normie redditor and normie in general are going mcgregor.
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>>63977617
Will anyone miss weight for 194?
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>>63977582
Then we'd REALLY look like U.S Lite.
tbqh we try to disassociate our culture from resembling yours as much as possible
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>>63977583
it's weird, it's like a before and after . Are you a cody, sick of being average, get in the jock-2000 guaranteed to at least Chad or better your entire existence. (not responsible for any accidental brandon-ing)
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>>63977769
his nickname should be "The Sister"
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>>63977862
Is reddit generally going for Aldo?
I very rarely go there.
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>>63977821
>That guy on the right is ROIDED OUT

What the fuck is this, opposite day?
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>Aaron Rodgers
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>>63977441


Ireland, let's be real here for a second. Conor looks like a skelly at weigh ins.

Are you sure you're prepared to see what happens when he isn't allowed to rehydrate with an IV afterwards?
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>>63977583
One of these guys does NOT pass the eye test, and it's not Sage
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>>63977918
reddit generally has the normie opinion and it seems like EVERYONE is going mcgregor. seems like the more contrarian position to go for aldo.
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>>63977891
>tbqh we try to disassociate our culture from resembling yours as much as possible

I hate this but it is true
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whos the most smug fighter in the ufc?
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Do roids make you able to do this?
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>>63978021
Well... when Aldo hasn't fought in 5 years... who in their right mind would bet on him?
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>>63978378
Yeah. They teach you that in like day 2 of Roid class
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>>63978424
I'm not saying it isn't smart to go for mcgregor, it's just more reddit.

it would be a very 4chan degenerate contrarian thing to bet on aldo.
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Sage is 100% confirmed on steroids, if you disagree then you're in denial
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>>63978378
how in the shit
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>>63978475
What's day 3 then?
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>>63977441
Smooth move there Ireland. I chuckled.

>inb4 the thread gets deleted
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>>63978378

Dat nigga flippin.
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>>63977441
>/heem/ my father is a narc edition
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>>63978579
oh look its a casual
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>>63977577
bad pic of her desu
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>>63978516
Well... It's very hard for me to see Aldo getting TKO'd in the 1st, like Conor imagines.

Aldo has perfect Muay Thai form and keeps his chin tucked, so, like Jedzejczyk, he's more likely to wind up with a bruised forehead than to get heem'd.

He's also very fast, and is definitely going to be going for takedowns. And he's patient. Aldo could definitely win. If we get to the end of the first round and Aldo has won on points, and not taken any significant damage, it's going to be a whole 'nother ballgame.
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>>63978378
>That "I need to be tested" flip
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>>63978768
the fight really could go either way, anything could happen. people just seem to think mcgregor has it in the bag.
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>>63978608
using the flip to escape testing
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>>63977821
>yfw Cody "The Beaver" Pfister tests positive for roids
>yfw Sage was natty all along
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>>63978895
People also thought Ronda had it in the bag against my girl Holly.
Truth be told I'm rooting for Conrad, but it's definitely not an easy fight.
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>>63979019
>that disappointed roastie in the audience
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>>63979057
tony hinchcliffe may write jokes for comedy central roasts, but he isn't a 'roastie'!
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>>63978378
clearly roid head, he even has the roid acne on his shoulder , his skin looks suspiciously orange and that flip can't be made naturally
t. phd in heeming
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>>63979034
please let holly fight more scrubs before this happens.
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>>63979218
holly probably has a better chance at heeming ronda than she has at heeming anybody else
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God dammit, I missed glory 16 because of werk. Anyone has a download or torrent or something?
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>>63979034
Dana clearly doesn't care about Ronda at all. If he did, he'd tell her there is a skill gap she needs to spend some time closing before she faces Holly again. I hope she never gives him another hug again for as long as he lives.
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>>63978378
You fools! This isn't even debatable!

THIS is his fucking father. Does this look natty to you? top fucking kek.
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>>63979316
That's pretty obvious, he even says "If we didn't make that rematch, me and Lorenzo should probably lose our promoter's license"

It's about the money here, which makes sense, a Holly v Ronda rematch is what people want to see right now, but is it the best for Ronda? Probably not.
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>>63979302
>glory 16
what the fuck you talking about? It's glory 26. It's on tomorrow.
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>>63979329
I literally couldn't give two shits about his roid usage. Tbh so many people do, that the ones who don't are the standout.

The fact that his daddy is a narc snitch faggot on the other hand is something that will always linger.

Also, its not like his criminal daddy isn't going to sabotage his labrador sons career by not letting him trane in good gyms with actual coaches like Firas.
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>>63979329
Shut up. I looked like that at 16 after one month of lifting (when I started). It isn't hard.
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>>63977441
how long till someone tries this in ufc for TDD?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTRdu8-01II&feature=youtu.be
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>>63979491

Oh... wait.... if that's tomorrow, then what was today?
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>>63979516
>Also, its not like his criminal daddy isn't going to sabotage his labrador sons career by not letting him trane in good gyms with actual coaches like Firas.

>http://www.mmamania.com/2015/12/2/9836576/ufc-fight-night-80-sage-northcutt-pulled-from-tristar-ahead-cody-pfister-fight-dec-10-mma
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>>63979573
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>>63979573
What do Mexicans work as? Do you work for the Cartel?
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>>63979620
He trains decapitation bro
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>>63979620
He's a preacher, guapo. Vaya con Dios.
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>>63979648
He could delete my heaD?

>Mexico can heem every here
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>>63979573
isn't M-1 on soon>?
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average guy on HEEM
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>>63979019
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>>63979872
based. you see him on that hunting hitler show?
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>>63979034
Ronda should probably wait 1.5-2 years before coming back, and quietly train with a non-meme training camp.
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>>63979872
What's he going to do, take 2 red pills and tattoo an American flag on his face as he skydives into Raqqa, shooting at everyone he sees?
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>>63979872
That's actually pretty gay. ISIS will just continue to kill people in places with gun laws similar to Cali. Tim can't do shit all about it.
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>>63979893
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>>63979911
Is is any good? Curious.
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>>63979954
A lot less gay than being no guns through and through
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>>63979284
I don't know. The thing is that Cat and Miesha are both wrestlers (idk about Amanda and Pena).

Ronda wants to clinch, so she rushes in at a standing position. Holly, surprisingly, has a really strong straight left, so Ronda got fucked up.

Wrestlers want a double or single leg, so they come at you hunched over. What might Holly do against this kind of style?

What can anyone do to fuck up a wrestler going for the double leg?
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>>63979989
interesting. I wouldn't say it's good though
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>>63980040
Well it didn't look as if having guns did much at all. People still died. So now ISIS goes:

>Texas? Full of guns, avoid similar places
>Cali? Laws. Attack similar places

You guns become moot when all you're saying is "Don't come to my state hurr hurr hurr". Fine, they won't and instead will go to states with laws.
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>>63980064
DAYYYYUM
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>>63980078
We don't care about states with laws friend :P
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>>63979954
isis will kill people anywhere they want. gun laws don't mean shit.
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>>63980049
Gracie-style BJJ
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>>63980049
I tried to explain this to a Brit yesterday and he just kept insisting that Holly Holm was only pretending to not be able to knock out people that don't come to her and that now that she's beaten Ronda she's at her full power level
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>>63980112
Not after what happened in Texas to ISIS. They'll target places they know will pose as a minimum threat to them. Which is why I could say, hence Cali.
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>>63980064
>>63980094
>>63980120

WTF?

/heem/ is a sacred place. Get this shit out of here! MODS
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>>63980094
>tribal tat
I was in love with the one testicle wonder but after that DROPPED!

Also what happens if Conor wins? Shitposting to the max? Mandrama fags influx?
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I got a bit high lads and now I'm hungry. Should I eat my Cookies N Cream ice cream or just sit it out?

I trane UFC tomorrow btw
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>>63980190
She doesn't have one testicle, just very small balls.
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>>63979516
>Firas
Who has Firas trained?

I can be arsed to google - but just thought I might ask here.
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>>63980142
>what happened in Texas to ISIS

which is?
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>>63980211
GSP
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>>63977441
>Chad exposed Conor.

Exposed him and still got knocked the fuck out in the 2nd round
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>>63980211
Rory MacDonald
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>>63980216
Where have you been??

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
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>>63980211
GSP/Rory Macdonald/Kenny Florian/Miguel "The biggest prospect to flop" Torres/Makdesi/Breese/Hioki/Menjivar.
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>>63980220
Ah. I'm not completely sold on Tristar, but it's certainly better than most. Will be interesting to see where Sage Manzant winds up at.
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>>63980216
Euphoric group staged a Draw Muhammad convention as a form of protest. Loaded convention center it was taking place in with security and armed guards in anticipation of drawing out Jihadist scum.

ISIS operatives show up with AKs and explosives, are killed in the parking lot of the center before being able to enter or inflict any damage.
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>>63979872
Good on you Tim.
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>>63979893
>>63979908
did no one else notice this
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>>63980252
>>63980267
Glorious...
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>>63980267
>>63980252
Just from the fucking Wikipedia introduction it says that they didn't try to get in, they immediately started attacking the security guards at the gate (Who would have guns anywhere) and weren't even proper ISIS members, they were two local muzzies who'd recently pledged allegiance.
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>>63980291
Notice what?
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>>63977441
so can anyone help me figure this shit out. timezones should be simple.

I had one site tell me that M-1 63 is airing at 10 am today, was not sure if it was under card or main card but thought sweet i can watch puetz fight before work if i can find a stream, then their sight says it starts at 11 am NY time

now the issue is their countdown timer says it starts in 20 hours, which is essentially 7 my time and well 9 E/ 6 P common american times

So can anyone help me locate when this card is fought?
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>>63980455
It looked like Holly was looking up at the tranny.
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>>63980460
>Tranny
Wow, nice slur
You wanna talk about niggers, kikes, and spics next?
Let's really make /heem/ classy as fuck.
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>>63980489
>mfw this post
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>>63980489
I'm literally dating one so it's okay.
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>>63980489
you forgot faggot, faggot
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>>63980489
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Wake up Jose

It is all over
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>>63980456
lol, the prelim headlining fight is a knight fight, and it airs at 12:30 , so 12:30 my time and M-1 are idiots on their countdown.

now to find a stream for fightnetwork since my gray market satellite never gets fightnetwork working that well.
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>>63980489
white cis scum BTFO
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>>63980542
wh-what does it feel like
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>>63980489
such trigger
much kek
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>>63980625
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Does Aldo have KO power against McGregor?
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You think Sage could rip a phonebook in half?
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Bethe Correia Vs Leslie Smith

That's the only fight to make. Book it.
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>>63981028
Probably not - most phone books are digital now, so he would probably need a Computer Science degree to do that.
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>All 3 Vegas shows sold out
>194 gate over $9M
>https://twitter.com/KevinI/status/672416959686819840
post yfw not going to all 3 events
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>>63981078
Has there been a lot of hype amongst casuals and on non-sports TV for 194 over where you guys are?
It might just be because I live close to Melbourne and the UFC doing an event here was a massive deal, but it seemed like 193 got way more press coverage. Some perspective would be nice.
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>>63981078
going to events sucks, view is shitty and you can't see whats going on half the time
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>>63981107
>It might just be because I live close to Melbourne and the UFC doing an event here was a massive deal
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>>63981115
Ronda and Joanna were all over the nightly talk shows, they did an open workout in the big plaza in the middle of the city, they had a red carpet event sort of thing and everything
It was a big deal over here mang
It was a big dealio mang, y
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>>63981134
youve been heemed one too many times laddy

your brain is mush
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>>63981144
I don't know what you're trying to say.
That aside, I can only assume that 194 is the talk of the town over where you are. Does Conor do much media stuff locally, or does he spend most of his time in the US?
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>>63981176
im trying to say youre a huge retard for thinking there is any possibility that it would be as big as the event you just held in your home town you dumb fuck
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>>63981176
Conor has spent most of 2015 outside of Ireland
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>>63981187
That's why I was asking if there's been much buzz for 194 as compared to 193 outside of Australia, where obviously 193 got a lot more attention but it seems that 194 has seemed like it's been a lot more subdued in general.
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>>63981049
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>>63981209
>but it seems that 194 has seemed like it's been a lot more subdued in general.

BECAUSE YOU FUCKING LIVED WHERE 193 WAS HELD JESUS CHRIST
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>>63981219
I know, that's why I'm asking other people what the buzz about 194 has been compared to 193 where they are, because I'm fully aware that I've been influenced on the matter.
So stop acting like you're the smart one where you're too retarded to understand what I've been asking the entire time.
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>>63981251
>because I'm fully aware that I've been influenced on the matter.
>>63981107
>It might just be because I live close to Melbourne
>might

mong
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>>63981265
Meme
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I want Ireland to leave
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>>63981107
I really have no idea. Basically none of my friends follow sports. A couple watched 193 only because they were with me at the time.
The truth is that 190 and 193 sold because of the hype generated by 184. 189 and 194 are for people who actually somewhat give a fuck.
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>>63981269
I'm not talking about Australia only buzz though, I'm talking worldwide. Ronda's last two fights did better than 189 did, if it happened again I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>63981302
nah mcgoat will btfo it
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>>63978516
Reddit is pretty much pro Aldo, atleast the mma subreddit is
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>>63981109
What venue and where did you sit?
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>>63981299
Yeah it's sad how much the casual market really influences things. Dave Meltzer said recently that according to the PPV numbers, the audiences that Conor and Ronda get are completely different, so if you put them on the same card they might crack 1.5m buys easily, though who knows how Ronda's drawing power has been affected by her loss and subsequent public crucifixion.
>>63981308
I'd hope so, Conor might be a casual magnet but he is legit good and the uneducated about MMA people that watch his events will probably get a better glimpse into the current state of the sport than they would a Ronda card, where they seem to less bother loading them up with good fights.
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>>63981308
Wait, are you seriously arguing that 194 is/will be bigger than 193? If so, that's just wrong.
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>>63981331
wait for the numbers friendo
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>>63981318
Bridgestone Arena in Nashville for Teixeira vs Saint Preux. I had pretty good seats but I still couldn't see shit
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>>63981314
That is what I would imagine, though I really don't go to reddit so I have to rely on second hand testimony.
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>>63981331
>>63981338
I'm confused, doesn't it already have a bigger gate than 193?
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>>63981363
abmcgoats dont deal in facts
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>>63981363
The gate is just ticket prices though, PPV numbers mean a whole lot more.
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>>63981325
>Yeah it's sad how much the casual market really influences things.
I don't think it's sad, really.
I think that sports are about stories.
You can harp about how Men's MMA is more developed and has a higher skill level, and you'll be right. But MMA is an individual sport, with individual stories. It's not about men versus women, but individuals vs individuals. What more compelling story can you get besides Ronda Rousey Vs Holly Holm?
I think that women's mixed martial arts is equivalent to hand-egg, more or less. Women are more predisposed to individual sports while men are more predisposed to team sports.
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>>63981417
nobody gave a shit about holm
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>>63981424
>the past
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>>63981433
whats your point?

nobody bought 193 to see holm, she was irrelevant to the numbers

and she wont headline again anyway unless its a housey rematch
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>>63981417
Literally any male champ including DJ is more compelling than Holly
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>>63981449
>>63981457
DJ sold 120k...
Keep smoking that base.
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>>63981449
>she wont headline again anyway unless its a housey rematch
m8 Demetrious Johnson has headlined PPV cards, I think it's safe to say Holly Holm will
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>>63981424
until she put on the mask
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>>63981461
you actually think holm will headline against a non housey opponent?

you actually think 193 wouldve done smaller numbers if honda fought somebody else?
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>>63981468
If I pull that off, will you die?
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>>63981314
They can't handle the dankness and banter.

Figures.
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>>63981476
>you actually think 193 wouldve done smaller numbers if honda fought somebody else?
No
>you actually think holm will headline against a non housey opponent?
Of course, unless Ronda chooses to come back for 200. I don't really see why you're all butthurt right now.
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>>63981495
im not butthurt, just saying housey v holm being a great story is dumb when nobody gave a shit about holm
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>>63979034
> Full HYPE clip here
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14279698
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>>63981476
They'll at least try a Holm headliner card once.
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>>63981500
I really have no idea what your point is. Sorry.
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>>63978343
Rashad
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>>63981520
>sports is about stories
>name a more compelling story than rousey v holm
>implying anybody bought the ppv giving a single shit about holm
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>>63981536
That's a good story, though...
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Which is worse, Maia vs LaFlare or Holm vs Nunes?
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if you could be heemed by any fighter who would you pickeroo
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>>63981547
how is it a good story when one of them is completely replaceable in the story

anybody couldve been in that fight v rousey and its the same story
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>>63981554
Maia/Laflare was awful, wasn't it?
>>63981567
Um... Who, exactly...
I mean, it's not my fault if you didn't know who holly was before hand..........
Again I have no clue where you're coming from. Sorry, but I think this conversation is done.
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>>63981581
>Who, exactly

anybody, people bought it to watch rousey, not to watch rousey v holm
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>>63981536
The fact that she was a world champion boxer was compelling and mattered a lot.
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>>63981601
well it mattered in the context of the fight

it didnt matter in the context of how the ppv was promoted
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>>63981619
Yes it did.
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>>63981601
This desu
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>>63981619
Everyone knows that Ronda sold the PPVs. You can chill.
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>>63981633
clearly not
>>63981626
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>>63981638
>Ronda sold the PPVs
True.

>Holly and her background didn't matter at all
Not true.
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>>63981633
The other dude's point was that it was promoted around Holm being an undefeated world boxing champion who was coming in to challenge Ronda, the PPV's ad was built around them being two fighters who had a similar route to the the top and everything.
Yeah Ronda sells the PPVs, but the opponent makes the difference between the fight being big and being gigantic.
Like, 190 wouldn't have been too big if Betche didn't say that shit about Ronda's mum and now she's out for revenge!
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>>63981666
nah it wouldve done the same numbers v random bantamweight contendor
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>>63981689
Then why was there a 300k difference between 184 and 190?
You've been very stubborn today, my Irish friend.
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>>63981702
because rousey became a much bigger name laddy
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>>63981638
Well, I have said that I don't know where you're coming from, because stories are told by the winners.
I, and basically everyone here, were here on the 15th rooting for Holly. I, personally, was never rooting *against* Ronda, but I believed in Holly. I wasn't laying money down on her to win, but I believed in her as my champion.
I believed in her fighting style and in her character.
So, to you, you might just see the story as 'literal who beats Roudy Ronda', but history won't write it that way. See >>63981601 and basically every pundit since the fight has happened.
I'll admit that Ronda sold all of the PPVs, but to say that it's not a good story is just a complete denial of reality.
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>>63981713
youre writing the story after the fact though

ppvs arent sold after broadcast
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>>63981708
Sure she was becoming a bigger name but her opponents still made a difference, to deny it is just silly.
I mean look at Jones' buyrates for when he didn't fight Cormier or Rashad, an opponent has a lot to do with things.
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>>63981728
Stories are told after the fight happens.

Everyone has already admitted to you that Ronda sold the pay per views. You won your argument, didn't you
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>>63981729
>an opponent has a lot to do with things.

for men yes

not for rousey
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>>63981752
That doesn't make any sense.
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>>63981762
why do you think the trend of who buys rousey ppvs is much different to mcgregor?

because those who buy rousey fans in general dont give a shit about mma and watched to see all the hype and because she became a celebrity and muh women power and muh could ko mayweather, not because of who she actually fought

whereas mcgregor buyers are more interested in the sport(to a point i understand he is also a hype man)
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>>63981762
he's saying that Ronda's win at 184 was really epic and went viral on instagram. It also appealed to a whole new audience because >wmma.
I mean, Bethe is a terrible fighter. Everyone fucking new it, and yet 190 somehow sold better than 189.
Everyone knows this.
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>>63981792
I think your whole misogynist agenda is starting to show.
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>>63981807
its not misogynistic

cm punk will do huge numbers for similar reasons
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>>63981794
because Betche talked shit about Ronda's dead dad, that's what made the difference
I feel like I'm in bizarro world
>>63981792
Still doesn't make any sense, any audience still cares about a compelling foil to the fighter they want to see.
Ronda vs bum off the street wouldnt sell as well Ronda vs Holm, might still do 700k buys but it wouldn't do the insane amount 193 did
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>>63981819
yeah people bought the tyson fight to see buster douglas too
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>>63981818
Fair enough - Both CM Punk and Ronda both have a fan base and that sells PPVs.
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>>63981819
>because Betche talked shit about Ronda's dead dad, that's what made the difference
>I feel like I'm in bizarro world
Eh... I would agree that they did a very good job of hyping 190.
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>>63981835
Oh, so now opponents don't matter for men too?
You're tripping over your words.
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>>63981865
they matter for women too, my point was they didnt matter for rousey, they didnt matter for tyson at that point, they didnt matter for mayweather in his latter years other than manny
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>>63981891
You don't get to say that they don't matter except for the one time they did. You haven't made a single point so far, you just keep reiterating your opinion.
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>>63981843
I feel ya. Ronda vs CM Punk, UFC 200.
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>>63977583
how come they are both same height,same weight but sage looks like he is packing 50% more muscle
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>>63981708
>because Betche talked shit about Ronda's dead dad, that's what made the difference
Don't forget they did also pull the whole "Four Horsewomen" angle into the marketing with how Bethe beat Jessamyn Duke and Shayla Baszler
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>>63981908
Because his dad was a steroid freak and a DEA snitch
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>>63981909
And Rogan is still tripping over his words.
>I thought Bethe was a good boxer
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>>63981896
why not?

after mayweather cleared the division and before the manny fight people paid to watch him, the other fighter didnt matter

while tyson was mowing through the division it didnt matter who he fought, he was going to do his numbers

this is how boxing promoting literally works, you go through the ppvs you know you will sell until you have your mega match up youve been saving up before the cash cow runs dry

its why floyd v manny took years

its why tyson v holyfield took years
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>>63981927
Opponent doesn't matter though, right? So why on earth would there be such a thing as big money matches?
You've seriously backed yourself into a corner.
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>>63981927
I think, at this point, I'm on your side.

Australia, what are you trying to say?

Yes, Holly definitely had a role to play in the PPV sold. Maybe 10-25%. What's the issue?
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>>63981936
>Yes, Holly definitely had a role to play in the PPV sold. Maybe 10-25%. What's the issue?
Then you're on my side. Ireland is denying this.
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>OHHHH! OUTSTANDING TAKEDOWN DEFENSE!
>UNBELIEVABLE
>UNBELIEVABLE
>UNBELIEVABLE
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>>63981942
I think Ireland was originally taking issue with my idea that Holly Vs Ronda was a good story. I really don't want to get back into that again but I don't think he would take umbrage with the idea that Holly sold ~15% of the PPV.
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Is Sage Northcutt elite?
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>>63981956
Well he was arguing against that idea for quite a while. I think it's one of those moments where the other guy starts out trolling but then needs to keep arguing to not look like a complete goose.
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>>63981935
>Opponent doesn't matter though, right?

it does most of the time, some times it doesnt, people will watch cm punk regardless of who he fights, people bought ufc 193 regardless of who rousey fought,

ill be generous and give her 10% because thats around what mighty mouse does and only big fans buy his fights and only big fans would really gave a shit about holm when buying that fight, and thats ignoring the fact that some of those fans wouldve bought anyway
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>>63981977
Oh so now Holly Holm does make a difference, earlier it was "lol any BW contender would do the same numbers".
Ireland, we are done here. You have conceded my point.
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>>63981977
It's kind of interesting, though. What if 193 was against Peggy Morgan?
Can you imagine if Rousey Vs Morgan did 1M buys?
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>>63981966
He's neo-elite
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>>63981951

Usually when people make fun of joe's antics it's because he overhypes things. Nobody would deny that flip is unbelievable.
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Post your Octagon Girl, /heem/.
>Jhenny Andrade
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>"I don't think UFC knew how much the fighters were making on sponsorships." -Joe Rogan
Damn.
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>>63982093
DNB
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>>63982092
>ubereem 50 fights
>only get paid for the ufc portion of it

kek
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>>63982093
god I just want to rub my balls all over that face
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>>63982123
>yfw a shitskin has
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>>63982092
They fucking knew. Quite a few fighters were open about how much sponsorbux they were getting. Sean McCorkle wrote a good article on it back in the day. Remember him? I liked him. Also Cole Miller I think also talked about sponsor pay and just how essential it was.
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>>63982144
I always wondered how the fighters were going to afford homes and pay Greg Jackson

Do you think JbJ doesn't have to pay the Gaidojitsu master? Like skate shops sponsoring skateboarders to attract more business?
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>>63982144
To me, it's still just schaub who has come out.
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rampage been drinkin on his stream boys
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>>63982275
sponsoring dont always mean money,gyms even invest money in promising talent
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>>63982306
> an washed up "athlete" has trouble coping and turns to self medication
Imagine that
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>>63982420
That's what MusclePharm are doing with Elevation Fight Team right?
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>>63982554
could be, fighters brings gyms more advertising,credibility etc
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>>63982554
No i think they needed lab rats and well a fight team doing everything in front of your nerds is for the best. Watch for killashaw to start sprouting extra digits.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EH60VrLA4M

Not sure if this has been posted these threads are moving too fast.

>dana dodging that vitor trt question
>Ronda damage control continues
>talking shit about GSP
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What do you guys think about the Ronda - Holly rematch?

Personally I'm pissed off about the instant rematches in the UFC. Cain didn't deserve an instant rematch and neither does Ronda, instant rematches should be reserved for close and competitive fights where it felt like it could go either way, not one-sided beatdowns with decisive finishes. It's fucking stupid. All it does is make the contender have to beat the champ twice to be the new champ.

IMO it's a lot better for the sport if you establish a champion by having them fight another top contender, it's not like Werdum and Holly lack competition in their weight classes, Arlovski should've had a title shot right after he beat Browne, and Miesha Tate deserves a chance too.
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>>63982706
It's because instant rematches are easy money. There will be even more people tuning in for the rematch than the original and you can mark my fucking words on that.
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>>63982706
straight up unethical matchmaking, Ronda's confidence is in the dumps and she got thrashed from pillar to post. Give her the Tate rubber match or something, Holm can fight Nunes, then go from there.

I swear for all their talents in massing the largest number of great fighters there's ever been the UFC are fucking godawful promoters and matchers and just lucked it to where they are, I swear.
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>>63982715
>There will be even more people tuning in for the rematch than the original
why?
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>>63982706
When was the last time a dominant champ lost the title and won it back in a rematch?
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>>63982716
UFC 200 is close. I guess Holm vs Rousey 2 will be our headliner for it.And if McGregor and Cerrone win their respective fights? Hey, they could put that in there too.
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>>63977872
Top fucking lel if Conor does
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>>63982738
GSP/Matt Sera? Why?
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>>63982748
topper lel if he faints cutting weight
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>CHRISTMAS IS OVER, NO MORE PRESENTS.
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>>63982756
I wonder if they would humiliate him in public liek they did when they forced barao to give an interview
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>>63982756
>>63982748
being this new
>>63982746
I really don't think Ronda will fight again that soon. Did you see her last fight?
>>63982750
Because Ronda got FUCKED UP.
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You now realize that ufc 200 could legit be headlined by Holly vs Ronda II and Conor vs Cerrone for the lightweight belt
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