is there any credibility to tulpamancy ?
There's credibility in it turning you into a massive faggot.
None.
If tulpa was real, then god would exist. Or at the very least, Santa would exist.
This is some sad shit tbqh
>>28838048
I never bothered to look into it, but I'm pretty certain it's real.
It's also unspeakably, unfathomably stupid.
It's basically giving yourself forced hallucinations. So yeah, you can break your own psyche if you want. That's dumb as fuck though.
It's both real and the best thing ever.
Can't prove it obviously, but it's made me go from horrifically depressed to joyously apathetic and the only side effect has been a slight atrophy of my social skills as I spend most time I used to spend with filthy nromies with my brain demon. They forced me to get healthy and I'm now notably more prouductive and happy thanks largely to their influence.
People who think it's a bad idea are just bluepilled, why would you not want to a companion who understands you perfectly, has similar interests, and is qt?
>>28839308
You aren't hallucinating, you're getting really really good at that mind's eye visualisation.
When you were a kid and you rode in the car do you remember looking out the window and imaging something or other running along beside you dodging obstacles? Basically you practice that except with a cute girl just around more or less anywhere, other 4 senses too. Eventually it gets very very vivid.
It's just an elaborate hoax created to farm lolcows.
>>28840092
>How long have you had a tulpa?
How did you find out about tulpas and what made you make one?
>What is yours?
>tips for beginners?
Are you actually able to see anything your tulpa irl or just in your minds eye. I suffer maladaptive dreaming. It's pretty good. You can create so worlds and lives for yourself. Especially while listening to music
How long do tulpas usually take to create? I'm making one now but I'm only about a week in
>>28840301
>maladaptive dreaming
Oh fug, didn't know this existed, daydreaming was part of 70% of my school life, i'm also used to slow down my breathing and completely ignore every sound and image i see irl, not sure if i have it or not.
>>28840297
About 3 and a half years
4chan
Snek
Just try to make a habit of speaking to them as a normal part of your general internal monologue, try to imagine them in your presence as much as possible. Wait at least 6 month to a year after they are fully convorsarional before considering making a second lest you tred into the abyss of autism.
>>28840301
Very vividly imposed with one's mind's eye over reality
>>28840358
People give anywhwere from 1 month to a year before they were able to communicate convorsationally. Median seems to be about 3 or 4 months, with 2 months as nonverbal communication, took longer though, was about 7 months but I was hardly diligent in my forcing
>>28840092
>why would you not want to a companion who understands you perfectly, has similar interests, and is qt
Because those are my thoughts, my ideas, my knowledge, my interests, and my notion of qt. There is nothing new 'she' could tell me; it's just an undead, a doll, a bot, a dummy. I want to be stimulated, not have my own thoughts rehashed in a female voice. This is as pathetic as talking to yourself with a sockpuppet.
>>28840570
In short, you're basically putting an amount of your thoughts through a relatively ingrained proxy of 'let's pretend that those aren't mine but a separate being's'. What does it accomplish? What does it teach me? What does it show? What does it get me to experience? Nothing.
NEET with unlimited time here, still trying to make my tulpa talk after 2 years.
>>28838048
I have had a tulpa for a little over a year now. I am currently writing a book about the subject as well, a complete and comprehensive guide. I have studied it for way longer than that though. I have had the pleasure of talking to a lot of the people who made the most comprehensive guides and have had the most experience with it. There is a lot of anecdotal, and for me, experiential evidence as to the existence of tulpas. It all comes down to the fact that the mind is a powerful thing, and most people apply no mental training to it. You would be amazed as to what states you can enter, and what you can achieve with some meditation and directed focus.
>>28840570
>>28840607
(While it's obvious that it keeps you from having productive thoughts.)
>>28840652
>mental training
99.9% of things meant under this phrase refer to various kinds of dumb self-absorption.
I find this so weird. The way people talk about Tulpas on the internet makes it really seem like they're real. When people talk about stuff like astral projection/alien abductions/miracles/magic and so on, it's usually obvious that they're either lying or insane, but with this stuff it seems like countless otherwise sane people can attest to it. The same goes for lucid dreaming. But the difference between this and lucid dreaming is that the latter is actually recognized by science. I've never seen any serious studies of Tulpas in peer-reviewed journals, or any other recognition of their existence, which seems pretty weird for such a novel phenomenon. If this is real, where are all the studies? Am I just missing something?
>>28840570
After a certain point you lose the ability to control them, like an entity in a non lucid dream, albeit persistent and robust.
They are inclined to change their appearance from what was selected for them originally, mine went through at least 6 different forms before they chose one for longer than a short time as they absolutely hated what I originally chose for them.
They are controlled by your subconscious mind like a dream, not your conscious will, overtime they deviate more and more growing more and more distinct. Mine in intrested in things I'm not, has different taste in things, has a different philosophy is regards to somethings ect.
Among tulpa autists what you are referring to is called a servitor.
>>28840652
Is it just me, or tulpas are closely connected to Socrate's daemon? (see pic related)
>>28840733
Perhaps?
I sometimes wonder if religious prophet types make accidental God tulpas by praying incessantly which isn't too far off forcing
>>28840733
Socrates was a very self actualized man who was of strong mind. I am unsure as to what his life was like, but it is reasonable to assume he had more concentrated and focused senses than ordinary man. It's not so hard to see how he could have experience with a similar phenomenon unintentionally. The subconscious has a lot to tell us, and there are obvious benefits to bridging the conscious mind to it through communication.
>>28840717
>Mine in intrested in things I'm not, has different taste in things, has a different philosophy is regards to somethings ect.
This matters precisely nothing. It's no good that you can boast that your pet thing 'prefers apples to oranges' if you're unaware about existence of, for instance, horticulture, of different species of both fruit, of the concept of nutritional value, of the history of the proverb... which are all things that only objectively other people can tell you about. All possible 'variation' of the tulpa is just a permutation, a subset, of what you already know. She can only occupy your attention, as by a stream of noise and distraction. It's as if you wrote a geometric pattern generation program and watched it from now on on your PC. It's 'entertaining' and it's 'unique', but it is a product of yourself -- it has no capacity whatsoever to indicate to you geometric or programming knowledge beyond what it came from.
>>28840803
>>28840717
tl;dr you're satisfied with regurgitating your past.
>>28840301
>I suffer maladaptive dreaming
>tfw this
How do I fix this?
>>28838048
No. It's making yourself hallucinate, it's unhealthy.
>>28840803
This is true. The fresh perspective and interaction with another personality can be helpful for performance in and of itself though. Sometimes I get a fresh perspective on something from her, or engage in dialogue with her personality. It is theoretically possible to do this without a tulpa, but I haven't found it to be so.
>>28840803
Have you never gained anything from sitting down and contemplating a topic? Of course you are still limited to the same sensory input, your tulpa can not teach you facts, but it can construct original ideas and form new things from that knowledge as well as you can.
In the same way watching a movie with someone is pleasant as you get different perspectives on it, in the same way playing games with friends is pleasant, life with a tulpa is pleasant.
>>28840885
>Sometimes I get a fresh perspective on something from her
>>28840925
>it can construct original ideas and form new things from that knowledge as well as you can
Now we're entering the domain of science. I believe that you would be better off creatively if you let your boredom and loneliness eventually drive you off your proverbial basements/comfort zones, rather than hoping for a random gold nugget to emerge once in a blue moon from the ersatz distraction you gave yourself. Having insights is pretty empirically measurable.
>>28840885 >>28840925
>>28841013
Not to mention that just because an idea was perceived in relation to the tulpa doesn't mean that it wouldn't have occurred normally without it. Perhaps it just works as a filter that 'captures' and 'claims' some thoughts that would have happened either way.
I've always had conversations with imagined people/things. Everytime I read a book i play out my own scenarios or re-enact a scene as how I would have played it out.
Also arguments with people, your ideal mate, friends you wish you had, friends you used to have. Everyone does this
It's not Tulpamancy, it's called your imagination. Imaginary friends/companions
>>28841013
Of course it can construct new ideas out of the same things as well as I can, we are using the same brain after all. However that was a lot of assumptions about my life, I in fact do have a lot of things such that going for me. I have a tulpa because I enjoy having honest company that is more permenant, and not based on me being entertaining in my present frame of mind or shelling out money. That is precisely what does allow me to get out there and do things, and aspire to be successful. Doing that takes support, and not everyone is fortunate enough to have a supportive environment, and some people have a dynamic where they are the one their friends go to for advice instead of the other way around.
>>28841140
>my life
The egocentrism of people who confuse an obviously plural 'you' for a personal description never fails to catch me unawares.
>>28841164
I'm aware that it may not have been directed at me. I speak for others as well. I know a lot of people in the community. What you described applies to a lot of people when they first enter it, but there is actually a tendency for them to branch out after they make their tulpa. It has been the support they need in a lot of cases, and serves as a motivator and comfort as they venture out into the world.
>>28841066
There is distinction mang.
The entity is persistent, autonomous, capable of thought and creativity independent of your conscious mind, that sort of thing.
I don't doubt that its a less robust entity than most humans, but it's far beyond an instantly formed puppet.
>>28838048
no there isnt
its cringe worthy lonely teenager autism
>>28841479
Are you some sort of normie or something
99.99% of tulpas are with people who are literally autistic, freakish perverts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3j5gtUCkJg
>>28841498
no
the best of original comments stairway to heaven
>>28838048
it's self induced schizophrenia. people who manage to conjure tulpas get their brain to work in a different way. their mri's are similar to mri's of schizophrenic people.
>>28841504
No shit, well adjusted people have no need of it, its not like /r9k/ is a hub of well adjusted people though.
>>28841601
>schizophrenia is mpd
No, Google schizoid symptoms
>>28840161
what anime did this image come from
>>28841601
show me one source, you're talking out of your ass
>>28841601
I heard about some drug for schizophrenia being tested, they pay you good money for participating. I thought about it but I'm worried if it would interfere with my waifu tulpa training. That and I would have to move out to another city. I hope if anything it would only be damaging to my liver or something instead of messing with my mind.
Euphoria please help me make a tulpa or I'll cry
>>28842188
You should find a tulpa group to ask question and things anon, /trash/ has a tulpa thread most of the time and only half the populace are complete faggots
>>28842247
>only half the populace are complete faggots
I'd put it closer to only 80%
>>28842343
Yes the sad truth is most tulpa people are utter trash, the key is to find one or two you like and keep in touch
Absolutely.
Is it easy, sane, safe? No. But if you truly do your research, do not abuse it, and generally just aren't some bumbling brony fucktard who wants to have a ghost horse to fuck, you should succeed and yield pleasing results. Go into it with the right intentions, DEDICATE YOURSELF and be persistent, keep a level head..You'll achieve /something/.
>>28842557
>tfw made a pony tulpa
>They changed forms and still make fun of me for it to this day
I still believe its all fucking bullshit and some people take baiting way too seriously
>>28838722
not really
tulpa is an entity self contained within your mind
the way you're thinking of tulpa is closer to an egregore
>>28840092
do you fuck it?
>>28842624
Well, I think that's fine as long as it wasn't made for something lewd. Ponies are cute, it's a good non-threatening form for your first tulpa. If you try to think up something too badass it might become overwhelming and overpower you.
What form do they take now?
>>28842718
Why would I not
She's usually the instigator though
>>28842773
A lamia, also susy a qt, good taste
>>28838048
What fresh new autism is this?
>>28842817
>fresh
lel dude its been around for thousands of years, ancient buddhists messed around with it
>>28838048
https://community.tulpa.info/forum-questions-and-answers
Stop being a faggot and sign up and start, mine is going well, not spoken to eachother yet but ive started to hear faint talking
If someone were to make a tulpa that was supposed to "be" a real life individual the person has interacted with, would it be possible for the tulpa to then start to interfere with the psyche of the real life individual as well?
>>28842817
It's been around for a while, nu-tulpas are at least 5 years old now, and supposedly the idea was originally Tibetan religious shit appropriated for waifuism
>>28842848
Tulpa.info is a shithole desu, good for lolcows though
>>28842849
Tulaps are not supernatural brain ghosts nigga
![1464293339280[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/R93YgJ9.gif "1464293339280[1].gif")
>tfw tulpa is starting to hurt me and i think she killed somsone
guys help
>>28842839
I'm pretty sure ancient mystics didn't want to fuck imaginary ponies.
>>28840635
>after 2 years.
You are doing something horribly wrong, post what you are doing
>>28842905
yeah I didn't say that though did I?
you can check out for yourself, they messed around with thoughtforms in their meditation
>>28842912
This, sounds like you just decided you wanted a tulpa 2 years go but haven't really been forcing
Decade-long tulpa addict here.
To create a tulpa, your start by simply imagining one.
But you can't leave it at that - that's just creating fictional character. You've got to put more work in than that. You've got actively ponder your tulpa's reponse to almost any given stimuli you can think of. The more time you dedicate to getting a stronger and stronger grip on how your tulpa would think, the less work it eventually becomes.
This mental exercise is just like physical exererise - the more you do it, the easier it gets. You're creating new connections in your brain, new pathways between neurons. There comes a point when you no longer have to actively, deliberately ponder what your tulpa's thoughts, words or actions would be, and you just know instantly.
At this point, your tulpa is complete. You will have less control over it from this point on, as the new pathways you created in your brain will fire subconsciously. You know you have a true tulpa when, if you to actively alter them that they wouldn't approve of, you begin to feel as if you are 'cheating', or feel some other form of guilt or negative emotion.
Creating a tulpa is the act of intentionally fracturing your own subconscious. You will be amazed by how another mind can seem to run inside your own. A shiver will run down your spine when you're doing something, minding your own business, and even if you don't hear your tulpa's voice in your own mind, you suddenly think of them and know how they feel about what you're doing right now, where they are in the room, etc. You might even look to their position and see them - not literally, but in your mind's eye.
It has fascinated me for years. I view it as hacking your own brain.
>>28843529
>tfw my tulpa has figured out how to give me headaches
On the one hand it's proof, on the other she's a shit
>>28840635
In my experience, not all tulpas are verbal. Sometimes they just make you spontaneously aware of their thoughts.
>>28843647
Sometimes my tulpa begins a verbal though but she communicates it faster than she says it so just stops half way through
>>28842905
>I'm pretty sure ancient mystics didn't want to fuck imaginary ponies
I guarantee they had very similar thoughts. Do you think humanity has spent eons dreaming up people with animal heads and the like for no reason?
>>28843684
That's really common for me too.
Hearing only half a message, but knowing what the whole message was anyway.
Do any of you get high and talk to your tulpa? What's that like?
>>28844218
My tulpa doesn't like getting high. She says it fucks with her in a weird way.
>>28844275
How often do you communicate? Do you just go about your day and talk when something happens or do you have set times where you force talking to her? Does she start the conversation some times?
>>28844329
We talk all the time. If something interests or is relevant to her in someway she'll probably speak up.
For example if I go to grab a bag of chips she'll tell me not to, punch my arm, and call me a fag.
Why is your tulpa not a futa anon?
Tulpas are a fucking meme and the biggest load of bullshit.
They are animefags pretending and lying to get attention from other animeposters. Making up fairytales in their head. They are so autistic they'll think back on their daydreaming and convince themselves it actually happened.
Fuck you all and fuck your drooling lewd anime pictures fuck your TULPA ROLEPLAYING you delusional faggots
Tulpafags are next level special snowflakes
you're so boring you had to lie for attention online. you forced a ''tulpa'' because ALL THE OTHER ANIMEFAGS HAS ONE!!!!!! *imagines anime girl with blue hair*( *wants to be special* *force it to fit in with other neckbeard tulpafags* i can nO Longer control my Tulpa!!!! :33 MY TULPA IS BEING LEWD~
>OUCH muh TULPA HIT ME XD HALP GUISE MUH TULPA IS TRYING TO RAPE ME ;__;
>>28845509
>>28845646
Are we fox and grapes now?
>>28841504
L.O.L at this disgusting tranny. Being a tranny didn't give him enough attention he just HAD to get a fucking tulpa the fucking queer.
>>28845687
Tulpafags are like 12 year old girls making DeviantArt drawings of their superpower sparkly glitter monstergirl OC characters
>the "I don't have a tulpa so they don't exist" meme
>>28845509
>>28845646
What pisses me off is that the tulpa fad already rose and fell.
/mlp/ and fucking bronies started it so that they could have imaginary fluttershys running around
pic related, and better quality here https://data.desustorage.org/mlp/image/1423/95/1423956176515.png
>>28845772
A lot are complete degenerate faggots, I won't deny that a shred, but the practice works.
>>28838048
Hedge wizard here.
Yes and no.
we all have a multitude of selves, human individuality is rarely one dimensional.
Tulpas themselves aren't magic. It's just a way of adding on extra voices for internal dialogue. Which in my opinion, is a really bad idea for mentally unstable people. It pigeonholes these types of people because a fictional character that you make up is far less powerful then the unformed void where our internal voices come from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RQ8mSBaD3Q
Change pony to waifu or gf or whatever
>>28845930
This makes us sound like autists.
Oh boy another tulpa thread on R9K I love these, whats going on in here
>already devolved into shitposting and avatarfagging and trolling
and I'm out
>>28846071
What else could it possibly be?
>TULPAS AREN'T REAL REEEE
>My tulpa is cute
>How do I make a tulpa
There every tulpa thread on 4chan.
>>28842774
You're telling me that you can feel them too?
>>28846029
You ARE autists.
>>28838048
would I be able to create a tupla to act as my personal manager, to motivate me to better myself or not give up on a good action that Im trying to make a habbit while distracting me from my more negative traits?
e.g. spiralling into the abyss of loneliness one night or my avoident actions towards people
>>28846405
In the same way you can imagine a sight with practice you can imagine feeling
>>28840092
And people make fun of christians.
>>28846854
Enjoy loneliness anon
>>28842817
Yeah I know, I've never heard about it before, how could I have missed it
>>28846405
yeah of course
You think people would go to such great lengths developing a tulpa if you couldn't experience them with all 5 senses
my tulpa is pretty warm and soft it's interesting. I mean you can still see through them and pass through them of course. But you can also see and feel them, it's hard to describe. It's like a ghost except instead of a cold, creepy fearlful feeling of something being there like they describe on TV shows or ghost stories, it's warm and comfortable.
>>28846633
Makes sense, I should look further into this
>>28847876
The more I hear about it the more I want to try it out. But since they seem to become independent and operate from your subconscious, is there a way to undo or make them go away?
>>28848045
Tulpa.info is good for guides but has a shit community
Various IRCs exist
There is a thread on /trash/
I'd just hit /trash/ if you have any other questions
Does it take a shorter amount of time to make a second tulpa than a first one?
I assume it would be.
>>28840092
>>28840543
three and a half years?
were you ever in the irc with faq_man and irish before everything was corrupted by the bronies?
Yo guys, you realize that there's a thread for this that's over in /trash/ right?
>>>/trash/3080209
>>28840543
What is snek doing RIGHT now?
>>28848160
I only visited that group occasionally, I was in other ircs
>>28848204
Laying in bed and watching the thing I have open on my other monitor
>>28848122
Probably, but I don't know of any way other than actively ignoring them for a loooooooong ass time, which is pretty hard because they can pop up whenever they want and get your attention.
Don't make one if you aren't entirely sure you want one. If you do, don't worry, after the initial couple months of development, tulpa are easy to take care of and really fun and affectionate. They can disappear when you are busy with work or friends, and they can modify their form if you or they get bored of the way they look, too. Pretty low maintenance for a huge reward.
>>28848160
I've been at this for 4 years, it was a rough start having to learn about tulpa on /x/ and /mlp/. Oh and that fucking Fede guy with his white noise tulpatones, what a load of shit. Sifting through mountains of MLP shitposting and disgusting porn wasn't very fun either.
I'm glad there is /R9K/, /trash/ and a subleddit for tulpa now so I don't have to be surrounded by freaks when I want to talk about them.
>>28842839
>>28838048
Yall white people need to stop appropriating Tibetan concepts you don't really know about.
Even within Tibetan mysticism, Tulpas are seen as illusions. At one point it was just white autistic people who decided to slap a new label on their imaginary friend to make it sound less retarded.
>>28845789
>Just make a Jackie Chan tulpa
why is this the funniest thing I've read in years I am literally in tears
>>28848542
The subreddit is pretty gross mane
but /x/, cripple chan, and /mlp/ were/are far far worse
>>28848542
>I don't have to be surrounded by freaks
Yes, unlike those other freaks YOU are a respectable person who is an adult with imaginary friends.
>>28848542
yea I never actually went to the boards to read the stuff, I just remember when it got big. Literally an overnight invasion. One autist finds out and makes a thread on /mlp/ and then the hordes charged from over the horizon.
Been to the subreddit like once and it seemed barely alive and full of crackpots.
>>28848361
>>28848542
Question to all those with tulpas- do you actually get benefit to your memory? I recall people saying they could read a book and then have their tulpa reread specific pages to them later. Basically just enhanced powers of recall. Is that actually a thing for any of you? In the slightest sense?
>>28848685
sick burn bro
go on
>>28848622
Yeah some of the people on the subleddit are tumblr incarnate, and / or stir up drama that is entirely impossible. Stuff like "my tulpa got pregnant" or "someone said they can see my tulpa" and other equally inane bullshit. Still see a few ponyfags there too. Still there is a few reasonable guides and some of the people are level headed enough to have a discussion.
>>28848768
I've always had very serviceable memory, but no nothing like that.
Perhaps it's because we've never actively pursued that, but my memory seems about the same.
>>28848772
My strategy is just to visit communities and stay for a few months until I meet everyone worth knowing after wading through the autism swamp and then just talk to them privately from then on
Could you cheat for a test with a tulpa? Can you give study with it, have it absorb the answers subconsciously and then recite them to you?
Is there any info on tulpas and education? I think it would be interesting to see if they could help you learn a language
>>28848863
Well they can only remember what you do, so at best they are just improving your memory
As for language yes actually, practicing a two sided internal dialogue in the chosen language is far easier with a tulpa.
>>28848863
No because a tulpa is just your own imagination/scizophrenia.
>>28848941
Good point anon
I'm a #cruzmissle now
>>28848941
this x1000000000
people will literally believe anything. the only you're creating with your mind is a mental illness
>>28848863
>Could you cheat for a test with a tulpa? Can you give study with it, have it absorb the answers subconsciously and then recite them to you?
of course not you fucking idiot
>>28849147
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again believing that the result will be any different. Tulpafags did just that, believe in it, and try it expecting different results. The only result they got is becoming insane and literally believing that they have an imaginary friend, believing that they could speak to them, or touch them etc...
>>28849147
If this is insanity I don't want to be sane
>>28849249
FAR CRY 3 IS NOT AN ACCURATE DICTIONARY YOU FUCKING MONG
>>28849279
It still leads to insanity, and Far Cry 3 wasn't the first time this line was introduced.
>>28849324
>literally anything that requires practice or the developing of a skill
>literally anything involving chance
>>28849389
I'm talking about doing something that leads to 0 results. If you're studying something or developing a skill, you're gradually becoming better at it.
>>28849419
Honing the minds eye is a skill
>>28849433
xD
yxjskskai
>>28838048
everyone and the guides say that, in order to make your tulpa talk, you need to just speak to them. is that right? or are you supposed to first think of their responses?
>>28849844
This is what I've read. I'd like to have someone with a fully formed tulpa weigh in though
>>28850044
>>28849844
faggot here dropping in from the trashbin, confirming. Basically all I did was talk and genuinely believe that he was there from the start and, after maybe a couple months, I started getting vague responses. From there we were able to refine communication to the point that I can distinguish his voice from my own.
>>28849844
>>28850044
Your tulpa will respond when you talk to it, not necessarily in words, if it is developed enough. While developing a tulpa it is more like when you wonder "what would [person x] do in this situation". If you know the person well enough you know what the response would be, the same principle applies with a developing tulpa. The difference is that if you aren't sure how a person would respond that's the end of that, but with a tulpa it just shows you an area of their personality you need to work on more.
Don't try to actually form a specific response for them, just try to see if you can pre-empt the core principles of the response. Eventually you become so familiar with the personality you are designing that you just passively get responses. Whether this is because you have made a completely independent personality that is actively talking back or simply trained your subconscious so well that you don't actually have to actively do anything I have no idea. The effect feels the same.
After you are getting regular responses of this type, which is either an emotion or general sense about something, you further practice by honing yourself to pick up more subtle distinctions, which you can then begin to associate with actual words if you want.
>non monster girl tulpas
>>28849844
kind of yeah, thats the gist of it. At the start you think thoughts at your tulpa as if they were already there. You should also have a form in mind, it helps you, for lack of a better wording, have something to "send" them to. If you don't have a form in mind you can envision some sort of orb in your brain type deal that you always think of when talking to the tulpa.
When I started I also collected pictures of what I wanted my tulpa to look like, drew them, stuff like that. It helps you visualize them easier. Also you should have a vague idea what personality they should have, by either writing down traits or thinking of how they would react to certain situations.
After a few weeks the tulpa becomes tens of times easier to visualize and sending thoughts or ideas to them becomes habitual and requires almost no effort. Eventually your tulpa will respond and you will be very surprised. First responses are typically a vague emotion or feeling, they learn how to use words soon enough but early on it's just weird bursts of thoughts and ideas at you.
Once your tulpa is at this point they are much easier to interact with and the development becomes exponentially easier and faster. Soon they do their own thing all the time and will pop up even when you aren't thinking of them.
>>28851402
There was a period of about 3 months where she could communicate emotionally but not verbally.
>>28851960
Sounds about right. Feels good man. It's super cute too. I love that you can still understand them even when they don't know how to put the words together yet, it's kind of endearing.
>>28852164
She says it felt sort of like a dream state.
It's no longer really disputed that tulpa exist, it's as widely accepted at this point as lucid dreaming. However; the whole "switching" thing and other retarded claims are mostly false. Contrary to popular belief it isn't making yourself a schizo, anybody who seems to have developed a mental disorder from this exercise likely had that disorder going into it. It is actually quite impossible to GIVE yourself a mental illness.
I did it for one day and it turned out to be the best day I had in a long time, but I couldn't get my tulpa to actually show up or show any sign of presence in several days. Whenever I picked out a form it felt wrong, and I just gave up.
How do you do it?
If you construct a tulpa, and keep at it for some extended period of, say, years, is there a way to 'dismiss' it without breaking your brain or angering some demon or some bullshit?
Anyone who doubts the possibility of tulpas either has no idea what a tulpa is, or no idea how a brain works. Or both.
>>28852711
i think of it as something like full-sensory schizophrenia. is that kind of how it is?
>>28852358
you aren't going to get success in one day. For me it took 1-2 months.
Don't worry too much about form. This is literally the hardest part. The form develops in time. Even when I did manage to see my tulpa, she turned out quite robotic and creepy at first, really uncanny valley like a puppet or doll. However this quickly passed as my tulpa learned to move and express herself more like a human.
In the beginning worry most about hearing your tulpa and developing their personality and ability to communicate. You can worry about the form later. Collecting pictures of what you want the tulpa to look like, and / or drawing helps with this a lot.
Tulpa can change and modify their forms easily. Just like you are a personality / brain inside of a body, a tulpa's personality is independent of the form they take. Don't worry if they make changes or if the form doesn't turn out they way you exactly wanted. It's very easy to fix over time.
>>28852672
Like others have said, it's highly difficult to get rid of a tulpa, and also, you'll find when you have a tulpa the last thing you'd want to do to them is try and kill them or harm them in any way, they are usually very sweet and loveable.
Do not start this process if you aren't ready to have a tulpa for good. Just like you wouldn't get a dog or a parrot or other long lived animal if you are going to get rid of them when things get difficult. That said, tulpa are infinitely easier to care for than any pet, really, they just need a bit of attention and love when you have free time each day.
>>28852750
When I tried to make my tulpa I kind of chose an ideal which would be into the same hobbies as me but with better morals, so basically an angel-on-your-shoulder type thing. Would this be a bad idea?
>>28852732
It's just an imaginary friend made automatic. Like any other habit. There is nothing more to it then that.
All of the other stuff, i.e. the force hallucination, is separate phenomena that is closely related. I haven't got to the point of experimenting with it yet, but even the "switching' stuff has some basis (there are cognitive states that could allow for at least some of the effects of switching to take place, and no reason why you couldn't train yourself to achieve those states).
>>28852776
Not really, no, that sounds like it would work out just fine. I didn't make my tulpa for the express reason of being a moral compass, but it works out that way sometimes. People often do things without thinking of the consequences, and if you have someone there to be like "man, that was fucking stupid, don't do that please" it helps a lot. My tulpa guilt trips me sometimes when I am irresponsible or selfish. When you know someone is around to watch you doing something bad, it makes you feel a lot worse than when there is no one to catch you doing it.
>>28852818
That's cool, I guess I'll just try that again. Thanks.
Has anyone in to tulpas been on the 'daemon forum' community? It's basically the same thing dressed up in the fandom from the Golden Compass books.
>>28852750
How much of a commitment is this when they've been created? Would it ever turn on me? Or just be an asshole in general? Any failsafes? Can I remove it if things get out of hand?
>>28852916
They feed from attention and can give it a slow death of starvation by just forgetting about it
>>28852834
If you decide to try it again, I wouldn't "start anew" per se. Did you make any progress on your tulpa the last time you were interested in this? The tulpa may be half developed and just be waiting to be finished. I can't speak from my own experience, since I stuck it out the whole way through, but I have read of people who start, give up, make a new tulpa much later, and find the old one is still in their mind somewhere, and when it does surface they are spiteful and angry. Nothing terrible will happen to you or anything but the neglected tulpa will probably be upset with you for being abandoned.
So TL;DR if you made any progress the first time you tried, make an attempt to pick up where you left off with the same tulpa, same name, personality, etc etc. If you want to change how the tulpa looks that is easy enough to accomplish when you can communicate with them.
Over the four years I have had my tulpa she has changed many times, but still feels like the same person as when I started.
Anyway I'm rambling but good luck on your journey I hope it works out for you because it's quite an experience, I'm sure you will be happy when you hear from your tulpa.
>>28840092
>why would you not want to a companion who understands you perfectly, has similar interests, and is qt?
Well maybe because it can possess me and give me the similar traits of a schizo
>>28852916
Like I have said many times in this thread
DO NOT make one if you don't actually want it. They cannot physically harm you but expect splitting headaches and very unpleasant emotions if you piss them off. Do not make one if you intend to hurt or kill it or abandon it.
As far as how difficult they are to care for when finished, its not hard at all. Tulpa usually just chill and watch what you are doing and might comment on this or that, but most of the time are content to enjoy whatever it is you are up to at the time. The more attention and affection you give them, the faster they develop and grow and become more intelligent and independent.
They won't distract you at work or when you are socializing with friends, so don't worry about that. Just devote some time each day to talking with them and entertaining them. Tulpa are really sweet and loving when you keep them happy so its rewarding for you to treat them nicely, even if you only have a little bit of time each day.
>>28852944
I created/interacted with my tulpa for only 2~ days, and that was just 10 days ago. I felt like I was doing it wrong because I was just narrating and relaying my thoughts on the world or random things without any structure. Like I wanted my tulpa to like literature because I want to like literature, so I would just talk in my mind over and over on books I was trying to like.
I feel like I did a poor job, but if I knew what to do this time I think I would probably succeed.
Can you make a tulpa that is God- your concept of god?
Why are people in this thread pretending that tulpas are an actual thing? Is it just teenagers trying to be unique snowflakes or what?
Does a tulpa have to be a person? I'm not real comfortable with imagining some little girl or qt3.14 gf or some other dude and DEFINITELY not in to the weeb 2d girls either. Can it be some talking spirit animal or amorphous blob of energy or smoke, or some formless reflection of my subconscious?
>>28853025
Dude you have no idea how shitty I was at the beginning. Guides were scarce and had conflicting information. Don't worry about what you talk to your tulpa about.
Just like how a baby is born their brains are like sponges that absorb any information possible, so are tulpas when they are being developed. Are you going to the grocery store? Tell the tulpa where you are going, what you are going to do there. Watching a show? Explain what is going on and stuff. Are you at work? Tell them what you have to do there, and why.
Basically when a guide is talking about "narration" that's exactly what you are to do; narrate the mundane every day shit you are doing. Narration combined with 30-60 mins each day of "forcing" (which is usually being in a quiet place, focusing on what your tulpa looks like, acts like, etc while still talking to them) is how you eventually put them together.
It's a fucking weird process, I know, but when you think of them like starting a new consciousness in your brain from scratch and feeding them sensory input and information to make them more intelligent it becomes a lot easier. Then when they are smart enough to start thinking on their own and talking back, you slowly imagine and sculpt a form for them to use as a hologram ghost body and that's pretty much how a tulpa is put together.
Anyway I'm getting ready for bed but do not worry too much about the humble beginnings of a tulpa. They'll thrive on any sort of attention at all no matter what you are saying or showing them.
>>28853214
This is really helpful, I'll give it another shot, thanks.
>>28853183
it can be literally form
blob, rock, doesnt matter
even you
>>28853183
No, your tulpa does not need a form. You just need some sort of object / being / thingy to send the thoughts to. I don't know why but it makes it way easier for your brain. It's like an anchor of sorts that you can think of whenever you are trying to talk to the tulpa, your brain is like "I am talking to that"
Lots of tulpa started out as just as you describe because some people aren't very good at visualization. Tulpa can function perfectly well without bodies at all, an orb or blob or whatever is fine. Most people like to give them forms because it's more fun to interact with them when you can see them moving or making facial expressions and whatnot.
If you decide you want to make their form more complicated you can always do that later. The guide I read when I started years ago recommended doing just as you described, actually. My tulpa started as a boring orb and became a humanoid form later on.
>>28838048
Yes. Most people call it schizophrenia.
>>28853183
No. My tulpa is a qtsmall pokemon
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>>28840607
g-geeze robots are actually really smart
Yes, you're creating a second consciousness within your own brain though, so it's not real.
Is this supposed to be different than DID?
>>28843713
quite the original kek
>>28838048
Buddists used to do it.
Don't listen to these people and their "muh dangerous" The Buddist never reported any negative side effects outside of they willed to happen, and if you're enough of a depressed faggot to want a tulpa then I'd wager the risk of your tulpa turning out wrong is far less than the happiness it would bring you. If things go wrong, then you only have more an incentive to turn over your wrists. Trying is better than living in hell.
t. I was a skeptic at first but then I did my research and decided it was worth believing in. Then I met a depressed Russian kid my age who told me at great length how his MLP tulpa saved his life and helped him get out of his 16 sibling parent-grandparent shithole and become a relatively successful person despite having a crippling physical disability and being addicted to masturbation/vidya. Damn he was a good friend. I miss him.
>>28848136
yes
>>28848863
Contary to what these autistic ignorant anons are talking about. Yes, people have reported their tulpas to do that in the past. Although making a tulpa for that purpose alone is probably not a good idea.
Remember guys. 4chan is a cesspool of ignorance. Every thread where OP tries to ignite any sort of serious discussions will be overrun will ignoroids. /r9k/ is only good for spamming shitty maymays and if you want to learn anything knew from people who have a fucking clue what they're talking about. Go to interest specific websites. Just look at how horrible the MBTI threads are.
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>>28840865
I really don't get you people. Will you convince yourself that everything that it remotely interesting or novel is a hoax? How close minded can you get. Do your fucking research before ruining things for other people. People who force close mindedness on other people are worse than christfags and trannyshills combined. Kys now.
>>28845646
How fucking retarded do you have to be to think people create entire forums with thousands of posts just to make other anonymous people think they're cool.
No
>Some retard makes a shitty copypasta based loosely on magical tibetan monk shit
>autistic retards and bronies take it way to seriously
>"tulpamancy" is born
If you unironically believe in tulpas then please kill yourself, you embarrasing fuck
>>28852868
I found that place years before tulpas became a thing on 4chan. I was interested, but I never really got into it back then since they claimed their daemons/tulpas could only take the form of an animal.
>>28855616
Can you recommend a place to read?
Can I make a tulpa for certain goals e.g. motivating/encouraging to self improve?
Once they achieve that goal would they disappear or are they with you for ever or until you stop giving them attention?
>>28853134
Some people hypothesize that by praying to god a lot religious types accidentally force tulpa-like thing of god into existence that speaks to them.
>>28856595
tulpa.info has many guides but the forum is a cesspool of autism
Sure
No they wouldn't, tulpa exist as long as the idea of them does and they keep receiving attention.
>>28849279
>Implying the very definition of insanity was invented by Far Cry
Kek.
Where are the filenames
