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>>2358648
>>2358658
MORE TEXTURE!
current WIP in pastels. Still a lot work left on the face but Id love some advice.
Is this a gesture?
>>2358744
no its a construction drawing.
Gesture is about capturing weight, movement and balance, and little about proportion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y
>>2358744
good effort, but take some time to clean up your lines too. where you are at, it doesn't look artsy - just messy.
as >>2358748 said, it's not gesture. i can feel how concentrated you were in getting things correct and the way 'they're supposed to look like.' gesture is much much more free than that.
>>2358648
>>2358849
where do you get your references dude, been looking for decent ones but cant find any that are really good.
>>2358869
The face is pretty nice, but cause he has no arms, it kinds ruins it.
>>2358871
it was from imagination
although i usually get references from pinterest/huaban
Some shit i did yesterday.
Work in progress, probably not coloring it tho.
Meh, started redrawing this one after one of my cats smudged it and he smudged it in about the same place again.
I'm too entertained by this to be mad.
Me again >>2358744
Am i gesturing now?
Also I'm working on cleaning up my lines
>>2358954
Attatching the picture helps
>>2358685
re-draw her neck. It is giraffe-tier.
>>2358956
these are still construction drawings but they have better gesture. The idea of gesture drawings is that you are supposed to disregard proportion and structure to focus on movement, weight etc. so that you can then apply your understanding of gesture to your finished figure drawings. Download michael hampton's book "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention" or his video tutorials, he breaks down how you should think about figure drawings in a fairly digestible way
workin on mo lines
LAZY EDITION
WANANANNANANANANAN
how does this look in terms of gesture and proportions?
>>2358898
Why does it have a pec and a tit? Is meant to be like that?
>>2358991
Decent for a cartoon. Heads too big for realism
>>2358999
It's....
[spoiler]weeb/waifu/anime shit[/spoiler]
>>2358924
>5312x2988
nope
>>2359001
the draw thread is so dead these days
alright im done with this. ive been putting off a new one because i don't know where to find another good reference and /s/ sucks
>>2359013
Not really
limited myself to 1 hour. Was fun.
>>2358995
Yeh (?)
Pencil
working on this. trying to find out what about the shapes and colors of certain photos i like.
>>2359347
You must really love boobs, man. The rendering on the previous one is really interesting, looks like it took a long time though. Cool keep it up.
>>2359016
good contour/directional hatching, nice and subtle. outline of the right breast (viewer's right) is a little wobbly/depressed on the upper and lower portions of the curve.
also nice tits
>>2359391
well i dont like all boobs. i like very specific kinds of boobs. just any boobs usually doesn't do it for me. shape, size, color of the nipples, size of the nipples, color of the skin is all pretty important. i'm just trying to figure out how to replicate what i like from imagination by only studying the boobs i like.
>>2359470
thanks yeah i should fix that eventually
hands from today
>>2358849
eyes are not on the same plane
and the cranium is too long.
hair lacks volume
also fix that fucking neck
>>2359016
... at this point you should have just done pixel dithering, because youre just wasting time.
>>2359199
values values values
its too dark and no light
the nose is facing upwards and not towards the camera
>>2359607
i barf every time you post these hands
>>2358685
Looks great, but yes, move the back of her neck out more.
>>2359016
Good but what's with the outline on the tits? They look like they're covered in an inch of aloe.
>>2359690
idk i was just screwing around. usually if i do something i can fix in two seconds i just leave it there cause it's just part of practicing. but here's a quick version of it without the outline.
it looks a lot better :D
I've been working on this for a little bit. I'm not sure how I feel about it anymore though.
>>2358956
Am i gesturing now
>>2359199
id say the edges on the nose and lips are too sharp
ok, i've been working on this since yesterday, i'm still struggling with the shadows and the process overall, any tips?
i think i'm finishing this tomorrow
>>2359729
no, you're not. did you watch the video we linked? straight lines that mark tilt of the torso and center lines are still construction lines. gesture lines are fluid, and continuous. your lines are segmented.
>>2359631
What is "low key"? Or a weak lightsource.
Not everything needs a 1-10 value range.
But you are right about the nose.
>>2359784
no you clearly did't show "low key" its too fucking dark. paint opaquely and then blend.
>>2359768
bruh your edges are bad and your values are dirty
>>2359285
>(?)
What? Do you want an explanation of why I asked that? A critique? Opinions?
guys how do I deal with stagnation?
over the past year or so I don't feel like I'm getting any better. My quality flops all over the place, and sometimes drawing just pisses me off so bad I quit.
what do
>>2359880
This looks pretty cool, if you add a gun on his hand, blackeye and tails dead on the background by gunshots you can work out something
>>2359085
Nice!
The beginner thread sent me here, I'll just link my previous post >>2359692
Notice me /ic/-senpai and help me finish this.
>>2359806
oh well, bruh, next time I guess
>>2359925
Looks dull, look into color values
>>2359969
I want to! I realized the problem now that I opened both on my browser instead of Photoshop (which apparently made the referece dull for some fucking reason) so I want to fix that but I don't know how to. Do I play with the hue/saturation? the levels? the curves? vibrance? more than one of these (+the rest)? I never play with these magical sliders, so I don't know how to control it.
>>2359974
The quickest way to fix this is to make a new layer, set it to overlay and layer on the different saturation and hues.
Drew this from the OP in the statue thread and I'm about to give up on it. Tried to position/proportion them right using negative space and plumb lines and it sorta worked.
Looking for some advice on the rendering though, it seems blotchy and I think it makes them look like theyre black skinned people rather than white marble statues. Tried to blend with a tortillon but I think it looks not that good
>>2358660
more texture
>>2358685
I like the lighting, and good rendering
Any critique about the colors/lighting here? I feel that i need to visually connect two characters together somehow.
>>2359880
I have the exact same problem, but i feel that it's a temporary and necessary period in any artist's life. You just gonna avoid pausing and continue pushing through (maybe do some master studies to better understand exactly what qualities do you want from your style).
>>2359085
I fucking love the amount of sharp confident lines, makes the overall design look super cool.
>>2360033
Pose is awkward, clothes are constricting her face looks really off.
Also remember to go a little more into detail when blocking your background, it really helps to keep reminders of what light's gonna be refracting off when rendering the subject.
How do you guys deal with texture?
>>2360125
side of pencil and rubbings
>>2358920
Fuck it, can't be arsed to even begin rendering this out.
>>2360033
made a few adjustments, some of your lighting was appeared inaccurate, too hard, or too bright, tried not to change much of the form if any at all
>>2360033
Work on proportion- the mouse may be a little big.
>>2358685
got a few more hours of work in tonight. thanks to the anons who tipped me about the neck. its still a bit long, but true to my subject, shes a lanky gal. the neck and chest are still very early.
>>2359085
some of your strokes are good, but many of them are still scratchy
>>2360206
is this that fucking chick again
>>2360212
What chick?
>>2360206
your marks look more confident than in your previous portraits, longer, a little bolder, look a little faster, good job on that, be mindful of your work page, wear latex gloves, try not to smudge too much, use a plastic rest pad, even if you're going to cover it up, your control of soft and hard transitions of shadow on the form are much more three dimensional than in your past portraits also, so keep doing that, collar bone and vein on neck look flat, as does the shadow above the left (my left) eye. your handling of the saturation in the midtones from the lower portion of the neck to the upper is excellent- very pleasing , as well as the softness of the cast shadows on the neck, well done
>>2358648
>>2359780
i did watch it and the 3 videos it auto played after. fug. oh well i'll try again today.
yippee
van hellsing
>>2358648
Here goes, work in progress
>>2360238
His right hand is fucked up and no, it's not stylization but awful construction. And what the fuck is wrong with your lines?
Just give up and get a job you talentless hack.
Caricature.
>>2360238
It's making me laugh like a hyena though. Do another one!
>>2360286
i-its horrible nothing of this is even appealing!
seriously! what the fuck were you thinking!!!!
>>2360268
>>2360284
>>2360305
its shit.
>>2360286
I like
>>2360315
>an hero /ic/ needs
fix'd
>>2360305
>right hand holding the gun
>penetration from the left temple
Kill yourself for real, disregard drawing, you can't into basic logic.
>>2360351
>what is exit wounds
>>2360352
This isn't exit wound, smooth edges are for entrance while exit is messy and bigger. Seriously, don't you know your anatomy? 0/10
>>2360365
there's a lady with horns and all you can complain about is that the exit wounds doesn't look realistic.
>>2360305
More please
>>2360305
Finally you return
>>2360379
Those looked like they are glued to the sides of the head, besides, females often look like devils and can poke your eye with their horns, that's why I avoid them and stay whole day in my flat.
ok, i'm done with this, what do you guys think?
>>2360266
Kek, read the sticky and go to the beginner thread.
>>2360251
Looks too much like frankenstein. add mullet.
>>2360286
>signature.
>>2360266
>pic related
>>2360474
Dude, they aren't grounded properly, there is so many perspective mistakes that I can't even list them all their faces look like they have been hit with shovels everyday since they were born, her hair looks like someone mowed the grass and glued it to her head as a clump, dudes hair extends so much that he would need an alien head under it, also his other hand just disappears into his chest and acquires no space under the arm, your best values in the pic are the birds.
My advice: Forget colors completely for now, do everything in grey-scale for a while, learn some construction (Michael Hampton, Loomis (Figure drawing), Bridgman) and then learn a bit on perspective if you want to do drawings with extreme foreshortening
>>2360475
Pose is awkward as fuck and the left leg is technically floating.
>>2359607
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
>>2360286
It.. its just a mess of jumbo and jambo man.
Also the hair has the same color combination after my dog ate its own shit and barfed it on a blue carpet.
>>2360521
can you redline me plz? i still fail to see the floating left leg..
>>2360517
well thanks, that was the first critique i got in this website
>>2360521
took your advice on the leg, it feels better now, but not perfect, as for the awkward pose, hes in an awkward environment. so it fits for me.
>>2358648
can I get a few pointers from someone who knows a thing or two about landscapes or maybe some recommended reading on the topic?
>>2360190
For some reason this kinda reminds me of Van Gogh
>>2360475
Sorry I'm really bad at redlines but I tried to show what was wrong with it, It was partially sunken into the ground and partially floating compared to the other leg which looked fine to me.
>>2360565
I forgot the writing on the pic. But seriously the pose is fine, its just the hand and head mismatch which just makes it look really weird, I recommend changing the hand for since it makes for a better composition imo, make it rest or have it turn against the body or front more.
>>2360305
Damn dude I haven't seen your shit in years where the fuck you been.
>>2360557
You are welcome! Now go get some art gains mate!
>>2359880
if you're tired of starting over, stop giving up
>>2360042
Yeah, now i can also see the awkwardness of the pose, gonna redraw it completely and also make an actual background.
>>2360194
I can see where i messed up, thanks a lot!
>>2360196
Hmm, i intended for it to be a giant rodent. But maybe you are right about the perspective, perhaps it's ass is too big.
>>2359345
Read the sticky, get keys to drawing from the book thread, go trough it, then come back.
>>2358685
If you want to do realistic portraits from photos MEASURE THE FUCK OUT OF THEM and never use black lines.
>>2358724
Where are you trying to go with this? All the proportions in the body are wildly off.
>>2360656
They look fine to me. Snow gloves tend to be big and tall girls often loo like that.
copyed face, no need to expose me lel
>>2359717
I like how the trees look but the there is no sense of light at all and the the roots look weird along with the perspective, also couple of the trees look really flat. It looks like colored pencil so I would like to see you try again, grid the ground and decide on the direction of light at the beginning.
>>2360668
Values man, values.
>>2359862
sure bro, go ahead
please red line the shit out of me guys
>>2360868
you would benefit from READING about light theory for drawing
you need to put your darkest values where shadows shapes meet with bright shapes, and also don't get close to 100 dark, you neet to play between 10-90%
brigter zones need more values
pic related of shadowing with understanding
>>2360863
Redline won't help you mate, read the sticky and go to the beginner thread.
hands
>>2360911
May be you should draw more useful positions and angles?
>>2360919
i need to be able to hold the pose. floating fingers drift too much i can't draw that fast. working on it though. i could try some where my fingers are outstretched resting on the table tomorrow but im done with hands for today
Trying to get better at generally everything. Be as brutally honest as possible.
>>2361007
stop drawing from imagination
>>2361007
>>2361007
Big anatomy issues, torsos are too long, legs and arms are too short.
There's no real weight to the clothes, they feel too restricted to their bodies, there's absolutely no flow to the pose or clothes.
Shading is too basic and everything looks flat, they need shadows too.
>>2361030
Can do.
>>2361049
draw from life, don't draw from photos. you're too much of a beginner to draw from imagination or photos, and even if you weren't you should still be drawing from life everyday ( that goes for the rest of /ic/)
>>2361007
hey! that's not too bad! you seem to have general proportions down (i might move the crotch higher on both figures) and the characters have a decent attitude to them. the accessories they've got on them aren't too overstated or distracting, which is always good, and they seem to be practical and fit within the time period (are those both horns along their waist? good research if so).
you seem to have a good idea of what you want to draw, so now it's just a matter of learning to draw them better. like, i am digging the costumes, definitely a decent medieval/15th century kind of vibe, it's just that the cloth itself is drawn fairly naively. you understand that there are tension points by the armpits and that it should be tucking into the belts and gloves, but you don't seem to know how exactly to show it. consider doing some cloth studies to see how different fabrics fold when under tension and how they act when at rest. there's a website called pbase.com that's like a public photo gallery that's open to anyone to browse, so if you look up "renaissance fair" or something similar you can find a bunch of reference of people dressed up in medieval costumes. when studying, just make sure that you're deliberate with the lines you're putting down to draw to cloth! you don't need to draw every single crease, just focus on the salient folds that will help you get your point across the easiest.
here's a redline and some relevant references. the way i work is already fairly stylized and less realistic than what you've got, so i wouldn't try and copy my method, but i hope it helps to show one way of simplifying fabric.
heres how this is coming along. i love the greyish green skin and really pink nipples <3
which do you like senpai-tachi?
>>2361072
Thank you, this has helped me a lot. You're an absolute diamond.
>>2361140
number nana desu
>>2361140
Na na na na na na na nana
Nana na na na na
Gettin jiggy with it
>>2361140
What's it for? I like san
>>2361132
looks hairy.
>>2360904
thank you for your helpful insight, will look further into that information.
>>2360904
Wait is the bounced light the same value as the midtone before the terminator?
>>2360565
this makes so much sense, ty senpai
I should really learn how to color.
>>2360286
don't be such a pussy. put it back up and take critique like a man. I saw it just as you deleted it. You have potential and this place can help you, but only if you aren't a pussy.
>>2361140
5th one, but have her laying on the wing facing the viewer being all cute n shit.
>>2360835
Uhm, alright then. I asked because I thought it was just a female orc or something with rough features. I don't think I've ever seen something like a pec and breast on the same chest. Found it odd. As for opinions, well, it's not a subject matter I'm interested in. And as for a critique, well, I'm pretty terrible at drawing, so take this with several grains of salt but....
The face feels kind of flat and awkwardly affixed. The left cheek where it meets the chin really rather bothers me. The left hand seems a bit small and doesn't feel like it's really curving around the thigh, and the right forearm also seems a bit small and thin.
>>2361132
Just looks like hairy tits.
>>2360208
Wow anon thanks for putting in the time to point those out! I really appreciate it.
>>2361240
Varies, but bounce light in the shadows are usualy kept darker to maintain a clear binary divide between the light shapes and the dark shapes. Bounce light would have your lightest value within the darks, but it should still be darker than the darkest light to maintain a good read.
I'm losing my mind over this dude's shadow. Is it in the right place?
i drew a blanket
>>2361401
is the shadow underground or someshit? how can the shaddow not be connected to his foot in any circumstance?
>>2361401
dude stop drawing from imagination. just set up a lamp and study it casting a shadow on an apple or something the fuck how do you expect to figure this out by just thinking about it really hard?
>>2361401
Where is the light source? very confusing
>>2361403
tour hatching is disgusting and halfassed
>but muh style
>>2361415
learning doesn't always look pretty. you could probably learn something from me ;)
>>2361403
Looks ugly and flat. You're rushing too much.
>>2361431
drawing fast is an important skill. if it looks ugly and rushed that's fine, as long as it represents the form well, is shaded, and the measurements were freehanded accurately. you should try it on your own drawings it helps you learn much quicker when you work quickly and focus on the right things <3
>>2361436
>drawing fast is important
What's the point of drawing something fast if it looks bad? Taking the time to draw something well is much better practice than rushing to draw a few shitty looking sketches. Your drawing doesn't represent the form well, the shading is messy, and the measurements of that chair atleast are cetainly not accurate.
>>2360206
the lines kill the subtlety of your contrasts, which are really good otherwise
>>2361441
>Taking the time to draw something well is much better practice than rushing to draw a few shitty looking sketches
because you say so? if you want to freehand measurements well being able to do it quickly is important because not everything you draw is going to be a still life. if you can't draw the figure quickly you can't draw the figure, because then you are drawing from imagination to fill in the gaps and why bother at that point?
>>2361451
First you have to be able to draw a figure well before you work on speed. You are lacking in the basic knowledge of freehanding measurements, and therefore speed is the least of your problems at the moment.
Also a chair and a cloth is not likely to move on it's own at any point, so your excuse doesn't work for that image.
>>2361441
this
quick gestures are important but if you never learn how to refine then wtf are you doing, art takes time mang
>>2360004
grays should be subtler, don't use black. find the darkest shadow in the pic, emulate that gray, and the rest will come inbetween. try to identify at least 4-5 different tones. also avoid lines, when shading use the side of the carbon
>>2361459
i know how to refine! im not posting my other drawings stop being argumentative not everyone on this website is clueless
all around me are familiar faces
>>2361412
Haven't got em' and even if I did I, it's not worth the trouble. Thanks for your concern.
>>2361413
Ignore the little lamp to the side. Say there's a spotlight a foot off the ground and like 5 feet away from him off the canvas.
>>2361410
It's all very unfinished, So concerning what's actually in the picture does the shadow on the couch/wall, does it look accurate?
>>2361470
I may or may not have just done all the work for you but I hope this is helpful regardless.
>>2361547
not him, but this is pretty helpful, well done
>>2361547
blog?
>>2361547
Appreciate it
>>2360863
I tried.
making the transition from traditional to digital, having trouble with rendering
>>2361600
Thanks for doing what you're doing
>>2361240
bounced lights/ambient lights brighten up shadows but not up to midtones, just close to these
but we see it as if it's the same gray because of the contrast affects how we perceive things
it's not important to be perfect, but understanding this fundamental push on a whole new level our renderings, as it's more natural than black shadows without variation
>>2361406
I want more of those
>>2361615
Rendering aint the only thing
>>2361615
Somehow the composition is just not appealing at all.
How the fuck do I paint hair?? It's difficult as hell for me And the single strand thing looks ugly as sin.
>>2361685
paint it as the skin, then draw over it with more opaque brushes to make hair texture
it's pretty nice painting, but too much airbrush, you need more clean edges
>>2361685
Dude : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SYIPBS2F0k
>>2361632
you mean the characters or the thumbnails ? I'm still developing the story of the two ;p
>>2361615
the tree take alot of space in the canvas attracing attention from the create in the background.
this ruin the attempt to make the creature seem massive
>>2361685
it's not the single strand that looks ugly but the horns, at least use a different color/texture than the skin or it will look creepy
i drew this a few months ago and didn't think of porting. I am a beginner so please help me out.
Anons help me, I want to get better and I want to be actually good at this stuff but I can't understand why I am so critically slow. My usual 1 hour to 4 hour practice sessions give me unfinished messes at best, pic related is product of two days which is laughable.
Is it because I am still shit and my skill level is too low to do this fast?
>>2362086
also, how do I git gud at environmental art
as soon as more complex shit like mountains is introduced into perspective I fuck it up for some reason
I know this is a vague question but still, if there are any hints and tricks to enviro art I would be thankful
>>2361066
thanks! I've been wanting to do something with these tapetum lucidum eyes for a while.
>>2362086
Opacity and brush size.
It looks like you're working up layeras and layers and then carefully rendering with a tiny tiny brush.
You will become faster if you just time yourself and make the effort to, but you're better off using a solid brush and larger brush to block things in quickly. Before you get used to it, everything will look like shit, but you will learn.
Also you still don't actually know what you're trying to draw, when you get better at anatomy you can lay down the sketch for that hand in one go and just put your blocky brush over it rather than ctrl-z-ing for five hours.
>>2361521
love the shading. do you use an underdrawing first?
>>2362065
shading looks decent.
>>2362086
speed comes with time. it's good that you've got the patience right now. don't throw away that good habit.
CC welcome!!
>>2362086
Do more painting studies, and use a harder, larger brush. You can't expect yourself to be able to do something without knowing how it's done, so look for some paintings that you want to strive towards and try to figure out their process. Digital art is interesting nowadays, because you can often find actual process videos from professionals to see how they do what they do. They're sped up to an incredible speed, so you won't be able to follow along like you might with Bob Ross, but you can still get a general idea of their workflow.
League of Legends used to do this a lot with their art spotlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZo25fFBJsA
Though they condense the 17 hour process into just under 6 minutes, you can still see that, after thumbnailing, they do an extremely tight sketch which they used to paint flat colours underneath. After that they focus on the key, reflected, and ambient light before getting into the fine details of rendering.
Do a bit of research to find a workflow that works for you. Speed will come with time as you become more comfortable with the medium.
>>2362100
>It looks like you're working up layeras and layers and then carefully rendering with a tiny tiny brush.
That's true
>You will become faster if you just time yourself and make the effort to, but you're better off using a solid brush and larger brush to block things in quickly. Before you get used to it, everything will look like shit, but you will learn.
Man, I've seen videos and pics of guys WIP's with blocking and all that, it's crazy. I tried blocking for the base but then eventually it boiled down to 70 layers of tiny brush shit because I started messing up with larger brush.
>>2362102
Thanks, I also signed up for the Draw Every Day thing here on /ic/ to keep up that habit.
Also I was wondering, what's up with ctrl+paint? I heard it's a good digital painting website but it seems to be down, is it just down now or did it get fucked?
>>2362107
I always have trouble finding videos like these for some reason, do you know a resource that contains lots of sped up concept art drawings and such
>>2362086
this is the second time Im giving you an overpaint,anon. You've disregarded everything me and other people told you last time and are repeating the same thing over again.Start reading books.You won't get good in a day or a week or a month. You need at least a couple of years until your work will start to look descent. Don't put the carriage infront of the horse. Don't try to render complex lighting like that when you can't even draw a proper figure. Start with Hampton's notes, then proceed to Vilppu. Once you're good enough to confidently be able to draw figures ,then you can start painting basic 1 light scenarios.
>>2362129
where can i find hampton's notes?
>>2362133
https://mangodrawingsatuni.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention.pdf
Also learn to do things for yourself. Art is not a venture in which one gets spoon fed everything.
Literally took me 14 seconds to google and find it...
>>2362137
thank you. i'm somebody else btw but the message still applies. what was your path like through art? as in when did you start, what material did you study, what styles did you prefer etc. just asking because it seems like you know what youre talking about. would interesting to see how someone experienced did it.
>>2362129
this anon fucks
>>2362129
>this is the second time Im giving you an overpaint,anon.
But I don't remember posting this on /ic/ and if I did I never read the thread and probably left...at least I hope my memory isn't that fucked.
Also, sorry, I guess I just wanted to have some fun with fantasy characters and stuff like that, playing lots of tabletop games lately and I just want to draw something fun and fantasy related.
I am doing form study with pencil, though I just mostly draw stupid shit digital. I guess I am fucked in head because I am not in artschool and there is nothing forcing me to purely concentrate on form study instead of trying to do character art and dragons and shit.
Thanks for advice.
figure drawing from today
>>2362065
If you are a beginner why didn't you go to the beginner thread instead? You dumdum. Also read the sticky.
>>2362129
Hey I'm not the dude you replied to but I'm a dude who has only drawn so far.
Got any book recommendations for people who can draw but have but have never painted before?
>>2362207
Why are you going to a life drawing class if you're not going to draw from observation?
>>2362232
what does that even mean
>>2361140
Looks like the same Thumbnails Ionen made for one of his commissions six years ago. Got some good perspective on them.
>>2360238
>wanting to into anime
Faggots
Hey guys. First legitimate drawing for the first time in around 5 years. I made a thread but then saw this one.
I'm really just hoping for some stuff I should practice and study as I know everything needs improvement.
>>2362235
Do yourself a favor and don't bother going to a figure drawing class if you're not going to draw from observation. If you're going to make stylized illustrations, use a photograph as a reference, since there's less information in a photograph and you're not going to be using most of it for what you're doing.
>>2362235
I think the anon is saying that you shouldn't really stylize when you're going to a figure drawing session, rather observe and learn and apply style later on your own
>>2362239
beginner thread bro.
>>2362227
Sorry im new sort of here
>>2362259
I'm good. I would much rather recieve some legitimate pointers than slave my way through the same bullshit I learned in elementary art.
>>2362266
You have not learned shit. Go study fundamentals.
>>2362141
i haven't really "done it".I'm yet to be employed in the industry and I'm light years away from getting anywhere near the level I set out to be. I started to seriously study art 2012.Yet I'm only mediocre level at best.Study material is standard. Started with Vilppu dvd then from there I just spread out and now I've probably red just about any book /ic/ can recommend you.As far as styles, I don't really have preference. If something is painted well, chances are I'll like it.
Besides your tastes change with time.An artist that I like now I might not like 5 years from now. etc.
>>2362229
James Gourney's Color and light
Richard Schmidt 's Alla prima
and Sargent's notes
Also right now I'm reading "The Art spirit" seems pretty good too
>>2362247
i'm not stylizing that's what drawings look like when you are learning the right way.
>>2362245
you cannot tell form, light, or learn how to work from a model from a photograph all the information in that drawing is stuff you need a live model in front of you to create. it's not an illustration.
>>2362303
what the fuck is the obesssion with drawing fat people, the forms are fucking lackluster and an excuse for not being able to draw or paint.
>>2362292
>the right way
There is no "right way" And Im pretty sure the model's hands aren't ones of a 12 yearold.
>>2360517
not the poster, but actually hugos face is actually supposed to look like its been hit by a shovel. In fact it doesnt look like its been hit by a shovel enough.
>>2362308
how is there no right way? what kind of hippie shit is that? I'm guessing 2+2=5 for you too?
>>2362129
This gave me some incentive to do some muscle practice. Haven't done a lot of studies in a while and this got me to flex those muscles (hee hee)
>>2362307
>b-but my art
>>2362310
autism? this is an industry where the context doesnt even have to define what you're doing. shit, even archetypal genres allow you to break the rules.
Are you man kinds failed attempt an AI?
Stop trying to do art if you think this way. Seriously, you're entire path is riddled with frustration and pain the likes of which you wont even be able to comprehend why.
>>2362266
If this drawing is any indication of your skill level then you really need to learn your fundies. I know it sucks to hear but start making a habit of studying. I don't know what it's like in the beginner thread but there really is nothing short of completely re drawing your picture that anyone here could do to help, and frankly, doing all the work for you is not going to help you.
>>2362207
Ive seen your work a lot, and while I admire your hatching/shading techniques and your delicate linework, I strongly recommend you work on proportion. Its obviously your weakest area and it works against everything you draw.
>>2362313
NO FUCK YOU, YOU HAVE SHIT TASTE
>>2362292
Don't listen to those anon's they're just trying to be picky. Your picture was a good observational drawing.
>>2362312
cheers ,buddy, nice colors.
>>2362326
hands look too small though
>>2362312
I can get on board with more of this
