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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
User refurbished X220
>IPS
>i5
>256GB SSD
>8GB RAM
>new 6 cell battery
>new keyboard
This for 249 euroshekels
Yes or no?
dont mind me, just summoning richard stallman
also, here, have this again
http://www.mocom.ru/Wallpapers/ibm.htm
bunch of oldschool thinkpad wallpapers, stock themes for xp, etc
>>55546283
>buying from a manufacturer that ships their laptops with superfish bios malware
>>55546327
Only on consumer plebtops
Thinkpads are clean
I'm looking at a T420 for $110 from a craigslist seller. Looked at the guides for local buying and this seems like a good deal. I plan to use this thing for notetaking, browsing, and toting around for errands. My media/gaming needs are taken care of by my desktop. The configuration for the T420 is in the picture.
Any advice you guys can give from experience? Anything the guides left out?
>>55546823
definitely a good deal. i paid 120 for a t420 with only 4gb ram and no fingerprint reader, so your find is definitely better (although i believe both are better deals than average)
screen is trash, but supposedly upgrading to 1600x900 isn't too bad
i use mine for similar stuff, and imo it's perfect once you install linux
It's been an honour to be part of /tpg/
It's time to move on from my machines
T61p 1920x1200 panel
X220 with IPS
X220 tablet
T420s with Alienware panel and eGPU rig
Recently came into a solid job and I'm long overdue for an upgrade.
Looking into the Dell XPS 15. Shit key travel and no more track point but ive been starting to enjoy my T420s track pad anyways (sticker off)
My aunt gave me two of her old Thinkpad T20s, how do I manage to install Linux Mint on them? I've found a way to boot from the USB, but the machine hangs forever and it doesn't end up working. Also Windows 98 is installed on it and I can't access the internet.
>>55547125
The only logical jump from ThinkPads with Dell is the Latitude or Precision line. XPS is consumer shit, seriously, no matter how they package it.
Get a Latitude or step up to a Precision if you must, but avoid the XPS like the fucking plague, seriously.
>>55547239
You can't use typical Linux distros because they require CPU features those old Pentium III machines didn't have. There's also the problem with memory support as well and they'll be USB 1.1 machines (which will work fine with a USB 2.0 stick just realize things will take 8x longer or more to transfer and that means the installation itself will take over an hour if even that fast).
You have to find some Linux distro that still offers some PAE support (or the other way around, I honestly can't remember at this moment) but modern distros within the past 4 years or so simply aren't going to work - it's not just a 32 bit vs 64 bit thing (obviously that P3 is a 32 bit processor), it's more than that.
Go grab an old Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ISO or something of that time period, maybe even 10.10 if necessary, those will work just fine.
Anyone use linux with 600x?
What Thinkpad would you recommend for watching anime on?
>>55547373
Preferably one that actually works, aside from that what the fuck do I care.
I bought a w541 with k2000m because i got a good deal. it is forced into using the intel graphics unless the dock is bought.
are there any ways to get around this? or just buy the dock...
>modest upgrades
>>55547604
You upgraded to a non-vapefaggot?
>>55547645
No I'm still a mega vapefag
I did switch from Quit That Grit to Blue Dot Vapors though
>>55547669
Consider suicide, and wear your fedora while you do it
>>55547684
I only have baseball caps anon :(
>>55546283
So I just got my T420 today, and the mic light doesn't turn on when I press that, should I be concerned that it's broken? IT's not a huge concern, I could just get the guy to refund some of the money.
Also, what is that thinkvantage button? I press it and nothing happens, so now I'm worried that it might be that area that might be broken.
>>55547702
Can't mute the mic if it isn't on
The ThinkVantage button is to enter the bios
>>55547702
Is there a Lenovo partition on your hard drive? If the computer was wiped and a vanilla version of the OS was installed, you may not have the Thinkvantage partition which contains recovery images and all the Lenovo drivers (you can still download all this crap off Lenovo's website if you really want it)
>>55547702
press the thinkvantage button during bootup to get to some other boot options / bios
>>55547765
>>55547743
>>55547823
Thanks bros, I'll give the mic thing a shot.
Is there a way to set the thinkvantage button to open my email directly? (on windows)
How are the thinkpad x130e? there is one on craigslist near me for a decent price but idk if i can justify spending it
>>55548039
If they're asking more than $25 for it, they're asking for entirely too much.
My taskbar in Win10 moves to the right of the screen a few milimeters, the time/date gets cut off by the corner of the screen. I've been keeping the taskbar unlocked now and dragging it back every time I see this bug. Has this happened to any of you guys?
Next time it happens I'll try to get a pic.
>>55547702
So the mic button still won't activate. I tried it on Discord, mic setup, and vocaroo. Should I panic?
>got my W520 today
>check if it's eligible for battery recall
>it isn't
That's 0 for 5 now :(
Sweet machine otherwise, well worth the higher cost of admission over the T420. This screen is gorgeous, the specs are awesome, and it feels much higher quality overall. If you're looking into getting a T420, definitely consider saving up a little more money for a T520 or W520.
Do you guys think that the P50s would be a good purchase? I'm new to /g/ so give me as much info as you can
>>55548599
is the t520 quadro more powerful than the t420
>>55548599
just search for eligible batteries on ebay if you really want one.
I was watching 13 hours and
>>55548631
No, it's the same card to my knowledge. The better cooling of the T520 will certainly help keep things comfortable while using it, though.
>>55548703
Are there any aftermarket heat sinks for the t420
>>55548728
Not that I know of. Cheap chink knockoffs maybe, but nothing that would be an improvement over stock.
>>55548776
Thanks Anon.
>>55548495
install the "lenovo on screen display" it's at the lenovo support software for your thinkpad
>>55548728
I think the T430 heatsink is compatible and better
>>55548657
>Thinkpad logo isn't upside down
get fucked Jim you fucking chiclet dicksucker newfag
>>55548855
Will that fix the volume mute toggle button?
>>55548703
It's not the same.
Quadro is way above NVS. NVS isn't much higher than Intel HD.
>>55548855
Different anon here with a fresh T420
What are the essential Lenovo support softwares?
I went to the website and it's a huge fucking list
Do I really have to get all of it?
>>55548970
yes, this will fix your mute light button.
>I think the T430 heatsink is compatible and better
good thinking anon.
Found one on eBay for $6 shipped. I have a quad core T420. I'll see if it fits and do some before and after comparisons if it does.
>>55548978
The T520 has an NVS card, it's one of the only distinctions between it and the W520.
>>55548970
>>55548993
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x230/downloads/DS029026
here ya go
>>55548993
You only really need the Power Manager. Thinkvantage System Update is useful if you don't feel like manually downloading all your drivers individually, but otherwise is unessential and becomes useless once you've settled in.
>>55549069
I asked out of all the software which ones should I get, not where should I get them
>>55549072
Thanks anon
Does it improve battery life in any way? I'm only getting 3 hours no matter what I do, maybe my battery is just toast
same new T520 fag again, just wondering what sort of thinkpad branded things, e.g. ultrabay, mice, keyboards (T520 specific or not) i can buy? i already own the mini dock or whatever the fuck it's called. also looking for replacement keys for that. thanks /tpg/
give it to me str8 /g/ x200 yayor nay
just bought a 4gb i7 t520 for $199, how'd I do?
anyone know if you can put the 1440p screen from the t460s in a t440p?
>>55549166
Pretty jelly desu
Used Chinkpads are expensive as shit here in civilized Yurop, compared to Freedomland prices
How much ram can I shove into a T420, and does it take DDR2 or DDR3?
>>55549069
Thanks man, you rock.
>>55549248
>How much ram can I shove into a T420, and does it take DDR2 or DDR3?
16g ddr3
>X220 in dock 30C ambient
>60C operating temp
>turn on air-conditioning, 24C ambient
>51C
>take out of dock
>44C
Has anyone found any hacks to improve cooling while docked?
No obvious babbys-first-screwdriver shit like putting the fan to disengaged or replacing thermal paste.
>>55549145
I know 16:10 is nice but it's a little geriatric these days
At least get an x201, but even that's getting slow
>>55549445
>or replacing thermal paste.
Well if you haven't done that how do you expect it to be cool?
>>55549445
try one of these lol
>>55549445
Use a port replicator instead.
![_460_0_0A33932_V3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bq5jSlZ.jpg "_460_0_0A33932_V3[1].jpg")
>>55549445
Get an Ultrabase instead, doesn't block the exhaust
A good lightweight/thin/good battery life, used thinkpad or latitude nootebokok?
>>55549485
>>55549530
I need the 6 USB ports on the back.
And I do have the Ultrabase, and I hate that it raises the laptop so much.
>>55549459
Because it's obvious enough that everyone, myself included, has already done it. Yet it's the first thing everyone suggests.
>>55549601
Based on the amount of people in these threads who in fact haven't, no, it's not obvious.
>>55549589
>I need the 6 USB ports on the back.
Get a USB hub then
Would it be possible to put a Thinkpad T43 motherboard into a Thinkpad R51? Mine's the Mobility Radeon 7500 version (15" 1024x768 screen iirc).
Is there a retard friendly guide to flashing the bios to the oleh's mod bios?
Also how to check if battery is eligible for that recall without using windows and without using that form?
>>55549485
the port replicator blocks the heatsink in the exact same way, anon.
Are brand new thinkpads a meme?
Never thought I could love a ratio as much as I do.
I heard the T420 screen was bad but I didn't realize it was working at mcdonalds and somebody decided to smear shit over every inch of the bathroom bad
>>55550474
yep it's a damn shame
>>55550481
And to think people paid over 1k for these machines
>>55549188
because muricans are a bunch of consumists.
>>55549445
Same problem with my x230 and 4338 dock I got at the end of last week but my temps are less bad but they did go up about 10 degrees. Just fucking around shitposting it's running 55-60C.
Going to remove the plastic bit at the back and see if that helps. There's a YT video that more or less shows how it's done.
>>55550258
no, you can get them fairly cheap with corporate discounts:
http://shop.lenovo.com/epp_cocacola/us/en/laptops/?menu-id=laptops
passcode: CocaCola
last year there was a passcode that gave like 53% off
>>55551483
holy crap would they screw you over for using this?
>>55551681
no. another passcode is NJ*CORP, not sure if they both have the same discount
>>55549589
easier to remove the plastic thing that's near the exhaust. Do that and you are golden, there are guides if you google around a bit.
Thinkpads are typically used by people who like to slap nut sacks together & fuck assholes.
>>55551786
How do you know this exactly unless you too are an asshole spelunker?
>Sell my thinkpad with faulty screen and fan, but nvidia gpu, 9 cell battery + 9 cell battery slice and get a macbook
OR
>Repair the damn thing
>>55546299
Yes, saves you doing it all yourself
Does anyone know if there is going to be a version of the p50s that will have an m.2 slot or allow an m.2 ssd in the wwan slot?
I want to buy a new battery.
Lenovo price is $159.99
Newegg price is $89.99
Is this as good as it gets? Which or where should I buy?
Recently put the 1080p auo ips panel in my t520. Got 16gb of ram, i7, and ssd. Any other upgrades I can do?
Hey goatfuckers, what about the X1 Carbon ? Is it a good shit or not ?
>>55552594
Pig disgusting.
>>55552485
is it possible to change the processor? or do you need to replace the mobo?
>>55552594
that it NOT a thinkpad, no mater what lenovo wants to make you believe
Is it worth it to spend an extra 70€ to get an i5 6200u instead of an i3 6100u on a brand new x260 ? Thanks.
>>55552778
Why this isn't a Thinkpad ? If for you only IBM models are, it's almost finished, I don't want to run a Core2 in 2016, dude...
>>55552747
![870[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EZ4dxFG.jpg "870[1].jpg")
>>55553028
X1 is a Thinkpad just like pic related is an apple.
Slapping a Thinkpad sticker on a laptop does not magically make it so...
>>55553075
So dude, what should I buy ? A X240 ? A T430 ? Is it Thinkpad enough for you ??
>>55553028
the x, t, and p series are fine. the build quality of the x1 carbon is shit tho
>>55552781
Could I get an answer please anons ?
>>55552781
Yup, those i5 are quad-core, so if you're compiling something, it's better.
>>55552781
>>55553224
Oh sorry, I've made a mistake, I thoug an old gen. But, well... i5 got Turbo thing and... Well, not too much.
http://ark.intel.com/compare/88193,88180
>>55552781
>>55553224
>>55553244
So, after comparison chart, personnally yeah, I would stay with the i3. Except if you want to overclock and change TDP and get some minors performances (especially in mono-core software).
Stay with i3.
>>55551847
>replace screen and fan for <$100
vs.
>spend $3.6 million on a macbook
hmmm really forces u 2 ponder
>>55552766
As long as the socket matches up
>>55553244
>>55553269
>>55553028
Thanks :P I think I will go along with the i3 then :)
>>55553636
>:P
>:)
Stop
>>55550451
sweet 4:3, makes me wanna get an x61 right now desu
>>55548967
Neat, thanks. I'll be buying one.
>>55548967
This is interesting. What level of improvement could I expect?
>ThinkPads on the ISS getting replaced with HP ZBooks
How hard did Lenovo fuck up not to have P series ThinkPads up there?
>>55554058
:^)
>>55547604
>changing one meme into another meme
kek
So, goatfuckers, are the 60 series Thinkpad enough for you or is it just chinkshit ?
>>55554583
Good enough for me with that sexy 1440p, but what do I know?
>>55554610
I'm talking about build quality, dumb cunt.
>>55554622
Yes, they never lost durability, Anon.
>>55554660
But compared to old IBM models ? I've heard those new chinkpad are shit, isn't it true or just an internet hoax ???
>>55554678
It's not black and white. There a new models marked thinkpad that would not qualify in IBM's world.
Stop shitting up the thread and read the wiki. Self education.
Sup neckbeards
I need a new laptop and I was wondering if an i5 X220 is capable of playing 10bit Chinese cartoons
>>55554704
I'm shitting where I want, and it's often on /g/tards !
>>55554583
T460 owner here
Only got it for a few weeks so far, so can't really say much about durability yet but coming from shitty consumer plastic laptops the build quality feels rock solid.
So far I've accidentally managed to kick it off the bed by the side of the screen lid, it landed on the other side and I could just pick it up like nothing happened.
Hey /tpg/ I'm looking for a laptop ideal for University, where I'm going to study anthropology.
Review sites are unhelpful, recommending things like the Dell XPS 13 and everything from Lenovo to Mac laptops.
Been sitting on the buyersguide for a while now and it looks like the T440 will be good. What do you think /tpg/?
Should I go for the T430, T530 or the X240 instead?
In case you have alternate suggestions I require >Minimum< / 1600x900 native resolution / ~150GB SSD / 8GB RAM / ~3GHz / 8 hour battery with heavy use. / thick laptops are better than thin.
Additionally, no Wseries, no taplets, no touch-screens, graphics aren't hugely important.
>>55554898
You can buy the RAM, SSD, and CPU yourself if you're not a complete autist.
Does anyone have a smartcard reader ? What's their bloody purpose ?
>>55554898
I'd just get the newest T4__ or X2__ your budget allows you to get, now it just depends if you prefer the bigger screen or better portability.
I decided for the bigger screen, but if I had to make the decision again I'd probably go for the X series.
>>55554583
>>55554622
>>55554678
>>55554773
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.
>>55555267
believe it or not but im a fuckin lurker here since 2008... Damn, I've got such a shitty life...
I'm currently having an issue with my T520. Inexplicably yesterday, it stopped booting from my battery. It can still boot just fine from AC, however, both with and without the battery. When the battery is plugged in, however, the computer still reports accurate information about the battery, and also reports that the battery is being charged, even though the charge % stays the same and the charge light on the laptop isn't lit up.
What might be the problem here (namely, is the battery fucked, or the mainboard), and are there any solutions I may perhaps be missing? I've already tried power cycling to no avail.
>go on holiday
>for once don't drag thonkpud everywhere
>die
Needs more ThinkPad
>>55555391
Trying new battery is a bit cheaper especially if it's chink battery. If it's not that then it's something on the board that's likely fucked then
>>55554952
Mostly enterprise use for things like sign on and auth
Recently got an x220. After upping it to 8GB of ram and putting a spare SSD I had, I am loving it. My only issue is the screen. It seems like I got a model with a TN display. I'd like to upgrade to the IPS display.
Has anyone here done that? Where did you get your new screen? It looks like Amazon is hit or miss with actually getting IPS.
>>55555555
Who's the lucky goy?
>55555555
What's typical battery life in the x220 Tablet like? I could replace the battery but I don't want to if I don't have to. Also, is there anything I can do with a T23? I have one sitting around.
>>55555596
I also want to get one of them X220s
Can it handle 10bit cartoons?
Is the lid switch magnet on the X230 a component of the speaker block or the palm rest?
>>55555694
I'm not sure. I don't watch 10 bit cartoons. If you've got a link or something I can give it a spin.
I'm starting a masters in Software engineering program and needed something cheap, light and functional for class. I didn't really get it to be a super duper work horse. The most intensive thing I've done on it so far is play minecraft with friends. Sorry, yo.
>>55555652
1 hour per cell is not unreasonable while fresh. After a while and more demanding use because you like a brightness level usable in a well lit room, it's about 5 hours with the 6 cell
>>55555754
Should be magnets in the display bezel. Though afaik the sensor for open/close should rely on the hinge
What can I do with a Dell Latitude D810? It needs a power supply though.
>>55555888
sick trips
I'm getting about 3ish hours with the 6-cell, time for a new battery?
>>55547205
You'll need something lighter sadly.
I had mint on a A31 and it get graphical errors or would be extremely slow.
I had Crunchbang on my T30 before it was depreciated.
>>55547575
register and ask TP Forum.
I forget why but I remember the default settings on an alienware M17x used HD graphics for some odd reason, sadly i cant remember what I did.
>>55548039
Meh, the time I had them are long gone, I like the X130e because of its bumper lid, it feels pretty strong despite being made of plastic.
As long as you get an E350 or better CPU it will be decent.
I don't know whats a good price for one, but you can probably get one in mint condition for under $120 thru eBay
If its for parts, walk away, they are too much of a bother to justify fixing up when you consider other better options.
screen isn't the best (probably one of the worst I've came across in a thinkpad), but the keyboard is kinda odd to type on as it is pushed a bit closer to you.
>>55549180
I thought the max a T440p can support is FHD.
>>55555888
>Should be magnets in the display bezel. Though afaik the sensor for open/close should rely on the hinge
It's a reed switch in the bezel, to the right of the webcam, with the magnet located in the body. I know that the switch works, as if I place a small magnet near there the appropriate suspend functionality gets triggered.
Just don't want to waste my time replacing the wrong component
>>55555817
>If you've got a link or something I can give it a spin.
Try playing any file of this torrent if you will
https://bakabt.me/torrent/174479/sakurasou-no-pet-na-kanojo-the-pet-girl-of-sakurasou-bd-1080p-coalgirls
>>55555754
i had this happen on an x230 as well. took the display bezel off and repositioned the switch a bit and it worked again.
Is there an actual issue with buying replacement batteries for thinkpads? I bought a T520 that works perfectly well, but the battery is shit and can only charge to 56% capacity. I was looking on amazon at replacement batteries and people kept saying that their thinkpads didn't recognize it as a "genuine battery" and that they could not charge it .
Here it is https://www.amazon.com/compatible-Extended-Capacity-Replacement-Battery/dp/B00GDPOZWA
If this doesn't work, then where would you recommend buying a replacement battery?
>>55552594
Happy user of the X300 and Pixel
X1C3 was dissapointing... Felt too flimsy for me, bottom of lid kinda bowed which was weird. 4K IPS was too much and it kinda wasn't all all that, though I kinda miss it sometimes.
T430s IPS FHD now, dailying a Pixel again.
However X1C4 is a different story, it's subtle design changes may make it better machine, ive yet to try one.
>>55552781
Hopefully Lenovo has a better HSF after hearing people didn't like the X220/230's cooling
>>55556032
Replacements should work on the T520 unless there was a bios update I haven't heard of. On Ivy Bridge systems (T430, T530, W530, X230) and later, Lenovo added a chip to recognize nonOEM batteries and they will not work.
>>55555954
I had one for a long time for work and once it was retired I used it as a small server. Great little machine and the 1680x1050 screen was one of the best TNs I've ever seen. You should be able to watch 720p media on it. That's where it's gone to [eventually] die - it's my father-in-law's media machine for shit I bring to him.
Still runs decent with Linux (maxes out at 2GB RAM) and it's of the era where it can be undervolted with PHC (or RMClock for Windows - I had no problem running Win7 on it either).
Don't expect miracles though, it's 11 years old.
>>55555967
Depends on how heavy your use is. i5, 9/15 brightness and shitposting on /g/ with a 4 year old battery nets me 4-4.5 hours with 85% of original capacity (calibrated a year ago now, so probably less)
Could check how much of the original capacity you have. I'd say once you knock under 70%, it's probably worth getting a new one and keeping the old one just in case
>>55556269
Okay. I still daily an R60, so I don't think the Dell would be much different. Right now, it needs a power supply, and then I'll get to fucking around with Linux on it.
>>55554078
It's a boss netbook. Once I have knocked a few things off my to do list I will be stick an SSD in their. Canny wait.
Is there any reason to get a thinkpad (I'm looking at T420) even when money's not a big deal? Like if I can afford a more expensive computer from dell or whatever is that a better option?
>>55556919
Build quality, keyboard, and trackball/point, really. Plus they're the most customizable laptop.
>>55557195
*trackpad/point
>>55548969
Maybe he has a T420 keyboard, who knows.
>>55556919
Money is always a big deal.
Why would you spend 800-900 bucks on a laptop if you can get a very decent one which will satisfy your needs for 200 or less?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=n82e16834319687
Is this too expensive?
>>55557454
It's not horrible, but you could do better. I think in an earlier thread this week somebody said they bought one from Jewegg and it had the IPS screen. Maybe somebody else can confirm, I cba to go dig thru the archive.
>tfw the T420's screen is so shit you can tell if the dots in the screenshot are from the image or the screen
Wake me from this nightmare
>>55556032
For starters make sure you're not eligible for a free replacement first
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122
Hello /g/ My nephew's Laptop for streaming his homeschooling lessons just shit itsself.
I need to know what thinkpad i should get for a young lad (8 years old).
The only purpose for it will be streaming videos from the site he is schooled from
I will have Manjaro linux running on it can you guys help an old man out?
>>55558229
**20 series minimum. A kid wont give a shit if its 1366 either so go cheap because its gonna get bashed around.
How much can I get out of a brand new/sealed 9 cells 70++ battery?
>>55558265
specific models i should look at?
i dont know ANYTHING about thinkpads.
does anyone have that old picture of the battlestation with all the "chinkpad" boxes?
>>55558500
T420, T520, W520, X220, X220T (tablet model)
People will argue with me, but for an 8 year old I'd consider one of the education line models (like the 11e or Yoga 11e). They're built to withstand the special sort of niggerdom kids subject electronics to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkt5KL7lb0
Got a t410 i5 yesterday for $120 aprox (I live in a 3rd world country, currency is a joke), works gr8, but came with a generic charger, should I get the original?
Also, might need to format since it came with w7 preinstalled (obviously just a cloned image) an cant get midi to work.
Does lenovo/ms provide legit ISOs or should I just torrent?
>>55551483
Does Lenovo check if the person buying the laptop is really a employee of that company?
>>55558770
The chinese chargers work, but they run hot and sometimes die unexpectedly. I can't recall any stories here of chinese chargers frying a motherboard, but it's advisable to use genuine chargers. You can run the one you've got for a while without a lot of worry until you can find a genuine one.
Used genuine chargers are maybe a few bucks more than a new chinese one. Even with fiat currency you should be able to get one cheap.
>>55558831
Macniggers GTFO
>>55558863
No.
What models do you think will be the staple in 2020? will the T420 and X220 still be the recommended models in that year?
Rate my business laptop collection.
The non thinkpads are a latitude D810 and Elitebook 8440p.
Thinkpads are (bottom to top, left to right) 760xl, edge seiers 11 (Ithink), T23, R60, and x200 tablet.
>>55559017
maybe T430/X230(with keyboard mod) or the **50 series.
>>55559017
thinkpad retro, with any luck, for anons with a bit of money
T420/X220 will still be perfectly usable. People will probably be recommending T430/X230 with classic keyboard mod for best poverty budget/performance.
>>55559053
>dirty old laptops on an unmade bed
0/100
>>55559017
It depends on how web applications will be, I would presume 2020 computers would have 14 hour battery life standard and we would be able to do CAD or shit on them easily.
I think Anything pre haslel would just be computers who want glorified keyboards, just like how T4x systems are now.
Is there a good screen replacement option for the T420 that doesn't require any modification?
My aunt gave me her old T20 Thinkpad, and I'd like to have an OS that I can browse the internet and watch Youtube videos with.
Is the machine too old to even do that with? If it's not, what's a good, non-taxing Linux Distro to use? Also, how am I supposed to install the distro itself? I can't use USB to boot from, and as my Thinkpad can't read DVDs, I'm kind of limited to how big the ISO of the distro can be when burning.
>>55557746
It's that bad? I'm glad I didn't get one then.
>>55558881
thanks,now on a closer inspection I noticed that it's actually a Dell ADP-70EB charger with some nigger adapter, should be better I guess
My old laptop (a lenovo G series) was slowly killed by a generic chinese adapter, but it was a cheap laptop after all and the original charger was VERY expensive
Same with original thinkpad batterys, they cost more that the laptop I got
living in a dying 3rd world country sucks
>>55559333
Ara ara, I'm just an old T series.. Y-you shouldn't surf the web with me.. there are younger Thinkpads, Thinkpads that can fulfill your needs better than I. P-please, stop looking there.. I don't have ports like the other thinkpads..
>>55559342
yeah its bad it looks like everything is covered in heavy film grain
>>55559321
No.
Enjoy your garbage screen.
>>55559349
Eh, I'd just go with it.
I don't know what the plug polarity is (maybe that's what the adapter is for), but just looking at voltage/amperage specs, that charger should work just fine. If it's a genuine Dell charger, I wouldn't be worried about its build quality at least.
>>55559333
I believe you can put something small, like puppy, at least boot from it live, its tough i know because it takes time.
See my post I replied to you. >>55555987
>>55547205
DVD drives are cheap but its tough to get a working ISO... I mean I have about 8 different DVDs I try usually before I find a distro to work.
>>55559321
900p LCD cable w/ Alienware m14x display.
I believe it is better than the X1C mod people do with T430's.
>>55559321
I feel the SXGA+ X61T display is worse, I should of swapped it with the X60T version when I had it..
So how terrible to use are these trackpoint keys in practice?
>>55559808
Terrible.
>>55559630
>I feel the SXGA+ X61T display is worse, I should of swapped it with the X60T version when I had it..
Im coming from a non IPS 1400x1050 screen with bad viewing angles and the first centimeter of the top of the screen had burned in toolbars and the top right had a mass of burned in chrome extension and bookmarks all tied together with a flickery backlight
And it was still a better screen than this 16:9 garbage
Not only did they switch to 16:9 they had to get the cheapest hunk of garbage display they could find to stick in here
>>55559808
It's so fucking terrible lenovo eventually scrapped that clickpad on 2015 thinkpad models.
>>55559808
WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR LAPTOP? STUPID FAGGOT AMERICAN WITH MACINTOSH PHONE AND GIANT ORIFICE OF BOWEL LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE MACHINE OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND SAYS "NO, LAPTOP NEED LESS DUMB FEATURES ON IT"?
>>55558595
also had a CRT
it was the ultimate memestation
I should swap a **30 keyboard into my t420 just to make /g/ mad.
>>55559808
Just buy the replacement from the xx50 or xx60 series and replace it. Real buttons are always better.
What kind of gaymes do you play on your ThinkPad?
Now after replacing the old wifi card with Intel 7260 ac one I can stream all my shit directly from desktop PC to my laptop (at 60FPS of course). This means I've already moved by desktop to the basement and I stream gaymes through wifi (occasionally via ethernet when the laptop is docked, mostly to play cs:go with low pings). This also means I can live with only 120GB SSD in my x220 because all gaymes are stored on a desktop PC and rest of my stuff is securely held by my home server.
Steam streaming with non-library gaymes is literally the best thing I've discovered this year.
I was very interested in
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T520-i7-2640M-2-8GHz-4GB-Ram-250GB-HDD-15-6-Laptop-Win7-/252435388401?nav=SEARCH
But I cannot find one with an i7 and a graphics card, would I be able to just install like a 4200 on my own or am I fucked?
I built my desktop so I'm not completely retarded.
>>55560470
No, all dGPUs in dankpads are soldered to the motherboard.
I fell for the meme /tpg/
Wish me luck
>>55560487
>5.72GHz
Holy shit, Anon
>>55546283
does anyone know what "base system device" is on a t420?
It's running windows 10 64 bit
>>55560547
intel ME interface?
You probably didn't install the driver.
>>55560580
I installed something for for ME. It got rid of something I think (I did this like a month ago)
>>55559630
I just tried out Puppy, it works but is slow as HELL. Is it just because I downloaded the newest version? Would older versions work better?
I have an old x220 that seems to work. I dumped it for another laptop thinking that it was broken, but I booted it up the other day and it seemed to be fine. I'd like a dedicated guhnoo+linux, but I've already repaired this thing countless times and repaired almost everything in it that I wonder if it isn't worth getting a different laptop out of spite and frustration. At a minimum, I'd need
>A new set of internal and external screws, and that's IF they'll screw in and the holes aren't fucked,
>Possibly a new fan, this one clicks and sputters, even with a liberal dose of WD-40,
>A new keyboard frame, and,
>A new palmrest.
I might need a new underside panel -- I don't know if the palmrest not latching is the bottom panel, the palmrest, the (lack of) screws, or some combination of all three -- and while the battery health is fine, I think I have a 4-cell. Idealistically, I'd like to be able to squeeze more than four hours of battery out of it, but I don't know if that'll happen even with a larger cell battery.
I can do that, or get a new Thinkpad instead. I almost have half a mind to get an x200 and libreboot it, but I'd need a SBC for that, which I don't own. I could borrow a Raspberry Pi from someone I know, or buy an Arduino clone and use that, but both of those solutions are hacky and unofficial. I guess an x60 would work too, I think those can be flashed with software only, although it'd be less powerful.
tl;dr version:
>Fix up x220 from hell and hope it works
>Get an x200 and libreboot it
>Get an x60 and libreboot it
>Something else
>>55560771
If you want more than 4hr battery life, disregarding everything else, fixing the x220 is your only choice. You can get a 9-cell and/or a slice battery for it.
>>55560969
Shit, joke's over. Didn't mean to namefag.
>>55559017
I'm planning on upgrading my X230 to X260 or X1C (gen3/4) in 2019.
>>55560969
What would battery life on an X220 be like with a 9-cell
>>55560969
My guess would've gone with underclocking the CPUs in the other two, since you get the option with those and not with the x220, but alright, thanks.
>>55559808
that's a *40 right? yeah they're terrible.
>>55559053
So you collect cheap, dinged up old laptops?
Why?
>>55561076
You can restrict the clock speed on any of them, I assume you mean undervolting. Even then, you're going to be pushing it to get 4 hours out of either a x200 or x60 processor. They just weren't that power efficient as compared to later models.
>>55561024
Depends on load and screen brightness. Figure 45 minutes per cell. -ish with reasonable loads.
>second in command at a not for profit company that runs a bunch of summer camps
>get a donation from a local university, its a bunch of thinkpads
>"They're probably gonna be shit from the 90's, I guess I can get someone to throw Linux on and send them to the intro to coding camp"
>open one up on my break
>its three years old, has a fucking i7, a decent Quadro, 1TB HDD, completely fresh copy of Win7
>call up the guy in charge of the video editing camp to inform him that he can finally escape his personal hell filled with crappy AMD-powered laptops
>write a very long thank you to the university
>>55548618
Well for the damn price it better be
Got x230 for 330 euroshekels
>I7
>Ips
>8gb Ram
>180gb Intel ssd
>9 cell battery can use laptop 8-9h
I think this was pretty good deal?
>>55561761
Hmm seem slike a nice upgrade from my T420 desu. Is it easy to replace ram HD's?
>>55561761
Oh does it have to be 1366 resolution though? I'm not into that. but I like the specs
>>55561568
>second in command at a not for profit company that runs a bunch of summer camps
Dr. Mengele, I'm NSDAP
>>55559321
Alienware M14x panel if you're okay with glossy, it needs no modification
Beware of matte versions of it, a matte version never existed, so it is surely a "compatible" panel (meaning a shitty one) if you see one
>>55561568
What were they? W520's?
>Getting my first thinkpad tomorrow
>it's an X230 with an older keyboard modded in
>$170
I am excite. Am I going to have a good time? It will be great after humping a 17 incher to class every day (dunno why I put up with that)
I know 1366x768 is limiting, but I want to force myself to learn vim, so the resolution isn't too bad for that, right?
What are /tpg/'s experiences with the Lenovo outlet?
>>55562057
So do they all have that resolution?which thinkpad is in the same range or above with 1600 or 1920?
>>55562057
>haven't even bought it yet
>already trying to justify 768p to stave off buyer's remorse
Anon...
>>55562083
X220/230 is 1366x768 only (but is IPS)
T420/430 is 1366x768 or 1600x900 (but is awful TN)
T520/530 is 1366x768, 1600x900, or 1920x1080 (the latter which is a great TN)
>>55559017
The P50/P70 indicate a return to form for Thinkpads
>touchpad buttons back including new middle mouse button
>classic top-mounted hinges return instead of rear-mounted
If this trend continues hopefully the T470 will be good. Maybe they'll even go back to 7 rows.
>>55562102
thanks will look into them.T520 same CPU as T420?I want a gen boost desu
>>55562219
T520 is 2nd gen Intel, T530 is third gen Intel
T420/30 and T520/30 also have socketed, non-soldered CPUs, so you can replace it with any mobile CPUs from those generations
These lists the CPUs they can come with by default
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T420
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T430
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T520
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T530
>>55561854
Its more than enough for 12.5" screen and consumes less battery.
>>55562087
I Don't have any problem with it though. For My Office use in University it's enough.
>>55562235
cool thanks for info
How do I check my battery health on T420 on
>Windows 10?
I don't see anything about batteries in Lenovo Power Manager
How can I calibrate my W520's display? There's a bit of a pink-ish tinge to it that can't be right.
>>55562472
See if you can find ICC profiles for it on the Internet already
Dumb question: between a dvd drive that's never used and a secondary HDD that sees use, which takes more power/battery life? I'd intuitively say the latter, but I just want to make sure.
>>55562545
The HDD, obviously.
>>55562402
One way is to run "powercfg /batteryreport"
It makes a battery health html filen your user folder
Compare its full charge capacity to its design capacity, if they're way different, (lesser by more than a couple thousand mWh) your battery is degraded
If you can fit 3000mah batteries on phones why there aren't like 20000mah batteries on laptops?
>>55562801
Battery technology sucks ass and just doesn't scale well.
>>55562801
Phones use a hell of a lot less voltage/power than laptops need
You'll find Wh scales well, but Ah is less because of higher voltage draw
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/all-day-strong-longest-lasting-notebooks
Is this true? Can you get so much out of t460 or x260?
>>55562906
These stats are with an extended battery and a slice battery
Which you probably won't want to carry around everywhere
Another explanation is their Powerbridge technology, there's a small internal battery that will power the device while you swap external batteries
>>55562931
Oh, what are the real Times with 6 vell or 9cell?
>>55562931
I don't think they've had slice batteries for years, those stats are just with their 9 cell batteries
so when I first "ordered" eligible battery(-ies) they sent them next day and send mail with tracking, but now it's been almost a week with no response
do you think they are on to me?
I just wanted to rip my old battery for free 18500 cells but I'm not going without battery in my laptop
>>55559978
Yeah, older screens kept their game, pretty lame since we 'progressed' in technology.
>>55560102
Yeah.
I swapped the trackpoint buttons from a X230 onto a T520, felt good.
>>55560721
RAM is an issue as well, these computers are pretty old, they don't run well. Like Pentium III's aren't really well suited, I don't think I had any that worked 'right' when I installed an OS.
I just stick with windows sadly, I don't take them online at all for risk of viruses, I can barely go online with a Pentium IV.
>>55561761
I think that is fair for Eurokeks
how long should a T420 CMOS battery last? Where is it located? my dankpad is almost 6 years old, assuming it's probably due
Hi, I've built a thinkpad w/ t61 internals and t60 body - not that the body has anything to do with it, but w/e.
>>55564503
oh yeah, I meant to add the second part - is it possible to insert an 850 EVO/PRO flash drive and use it to full capability? I believe this has something to do with SATA3 compatibility or something yes?
I just got a T400
What can I do with it?
>>55564487
You can swap just the buttons? How do you do that? Aren't they part of the keyboard?
is my t420 supposed to have a differently colored caps lock key? no other keys are that color, so idk it looks odd
>>55564595
Yeah they just fit for the most part, they need a little spacer as the buttons are slightly thinner so they wont click right, but once you put like paper or something, they click like they used to, but don't have that kinda ugly curve.
I lost the photos of it when I did the job, but here's what it looked like when it was done + some ricing as well.
>>55564718
I don't think ive ever noticed it...
Maybe they replaced it from another one that had more use?
>>55564593
It should run W10...
Install gentoo?
>>55564525
You're thinking of the middleton bios; you will be able to get true SATA II speeds, it is limited to that.
>http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Middleton's_BIOS
>>55564718
yea it's normal, probably has something to do with different manufacturing as they want a transparent piece on the key for the light or something. Normally not that visible though - most people wouldn't see that it's a different colour unless you get right up close
Maybe it's just wasted / too much exposure to sunlight and made it more noticable
