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>>55323527
>>55370197
eat shit, consumerist whore
>>>/mu/
How good is Klipsch?
Best earpad replacements for MDRV6?
Hopefully not ones that cost over $30
>>55370197
hey are superlux hd681's still best value for the price?
>>55370231
you have extreme autism
>>55368587
Well if your amplifier does something else than increase the power of the signal with audible effects, it's a shitty amplifier.
>>55370380
He's not wrong
Anything better than Bose QC25 for ANC and above-average comfort during prolonged sessions (3-4 hours) in the 200-350 range?
>>55370383
without*
>>55370384
I bet he is the same anon who likes to shitpost that same thing to every other /hpg/. It's the /g/ mentality where every discussion which includes products is "consumerism" and thus bad. Frankly it's retarded. We discuss technology for audio reproduction but mostly headphones. A lot of the posts do revolve around products because people want to know what to buy - a common thing in all of technology. The thread helps with the catalog clutter and collects most of these questions into one thread with a simple template for asking purchase advice to make it more focused.
This is not a board for /mu/ either. We don't discuss music as an artfrom here. Hell we barely discuss music and audio is not just for music.
hello
never really got a proper answer for this, so reposting:
merge, 3 different audio sources,
equalise the combined sources all at the same time
[cant do this with my pc]
>>55370539
didnt copy paste properly
fixed version:
Im shit with audio, could you guys give me the names of the equipent i'd need to do the following:
merge, 3 different audio sources,
equalise the combined sources all at the same time
[cant do this with my pc]
>>55370231
Hardly ever is there discussion of music in these threads apart from shitting on someone's album(s) of choice in their chart.
Best headphone (preferably bluetooth) onwhich i can enjoy Avril Lavignes perfect voice in her songs?,? Budget is 70$
>Budget
$200 USD flexible
>Location
Japan
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed preferable
>Comfort level
Highest Possible but not priority
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
None worth mentioning
Should I get the Shure se535 red edition? Shure comfort is perfect for me, I dont want to take risks with some other maker unless you fämälämäzoids can suggest something nice in the 3-500€ range.
Currently using se425, not sure if its the cable or the earpiece input thats fucking up. So full of earcum that these probably need to be burned.
Pic is gunk squeezed out of my Shures.
>>55370990
AKG K550 or K553 pro if you can find a pair
>>55370197
Faggot OP creating new thread before old thread even hits bump limit.
>>55371210
i'll look around and if i can't i will probably purchase an mrd-1a. not sure tho.
>>55371223
I think it is the same faggot from the previous thread as well. At least he doesn't appear to be the same faggot that was trying to push his "belgian" bullshit.
>>55370197
Just looking for some all around alright headphones.
>Budget
~$200
>Location
US
>Source
PC, no amp
>Type
Full over ear
>o/c
Open
>Comfort
High, but wiling to skimp for price
>Balance
Neutral
>Past
None
Thanks for spoonfeeding me fellas, keep up the great generals. Too bad you ran out of anime pictures for this op.
Thoughts on the DIY resonator for the HD800?
>>55371046
Anon maybe you should try cleaning your ears? Periodically? Nasty
>>55372526
I don't see the purpose when PEQ exists. You can get better results with proper use of equalization and no need to tinker around carefully with modifications which aren't fully reversible.
>>55372710
Isn't the 6k peak caused by reflections and not a driver trait?
>>55371046
Clean your ears man. Anyway, after owning the 846 In wouldn't bother with any Shure again. Great isolation but awfully fake sounding.
>>55372724
I'm not knowledgeable to know the exact cause but that's irrelevant. You effectively fix it with EQ.
>>55371046
Actually, right now there's a 20% sale at Noble audio, get one of their universals. If you want ultimate comfort, get customs.
>>55372435
HD558/598 or K612 and maybe E10k.
>Too bad you ran out of anime pictures for this op.
Someone can just go to >>>/c/2688367 and slap /hpg/ onto it.
>>55371223
you have autism
>>55372882
No, I have a worry that without a clearly set border before creating a new thread is not observed we'll have a "race to the bottom" situation where we see one thread started a couple of posts before bump limit. The next thread created ten posts before bump limit. That leads to the next new thread started a couple of dozen posts short of bump limit. And it just continues to degenerate.
Now that you've had the reason explained stop being a faggot that tosses out the term "autism" like it has any effect or meaning.
>Budget
60eur non-flexible
>Location
EU / Greece
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort
Maximum, but not really a must, I know my budget is really low.
>Past Headphones
Razer Kraken 7.1
>Budget
50-100€, more if i can get something that will last a long time.
>Location
Finland
>Source
LG G3/various laptops/future phone (mobile devices in general
>Preferred type of headphone
Anything that is socially acceptable to wear in public/outside
>Open or closed
Closed i guess
>Comfort level
I have to be able to wear them for at least 3 hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
dunno lol
>Past headphones
Some 100€ish beyerdynamic IEMs, cant remeber the model, shit earbuds that came with my phone, akg k550
>>55372989
you have autism
>>55372745
>but that's irrelevant
Tyll uses EQ on his HD800 to increase bass, so it has to at least be somewhat relevant if he feels the need to mod them instead of just taking out the peak with EQ.
>>55373155
You have too much wax in your ears. GTFO /hpg/.
>>55373179
you have autism
>>55370465
kind of ironic how a consumerist whore showed up 5 minutes after this post
>>55373166
tyll doesn't know how to EQ. he has already demonstrated that several times.
>>55373198
I guess an even humorous, and appropriate for the thread, attack will not register.
Are you posting merely to see yourself post online because it certainly isn't to carry on anything that even remotely similar to a conversation. You have one narrative and repeat it with every response regardless of its veracity, validity, or relevance.
>>55372526
> people unironically spend more than 1000€ for a headphone like this
>>55373229
A U T I S M
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I
S
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>Budget
$250-$320 AU
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Headphones
>Open or closed
Either not fussed
>Comfort level
Comfy level 7/10 at least
>Preferred tonal balance
No idea
>Past headphones
None
Is is possible to have them good for vidya too? I want a good balance of music and games.
>>55373634
depends what vidya you play
if its fps and you need good directional sound then make sure to get open back, due to having a better soundstage then closed back
>>55373634
What state? Do you live in the city and able to audition in a headphone shop?
>>55373706
I play a bit of everything desu. No competitive FPS though.
>>55373710
QLD and yes.
>>55372526
>>55372724
Kind of got me interested and did some basic research and came across this
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/neutralizing-my-hd800.1586/
Seems like a better alternative to opening up $1000 headphones and sticking in a buttplug.
>>55373751
then really dont take vidya into consideration
tho you should be buying open back anyway
Last week, I bought a pair of factory refurbished B&W P5 Wireds as kind of a test to see if I want the P7s because a bunch of magazines say they're the best shit ever. Goddamn things look like they were run over by a truck and sound worse than that. Their tech support said that I need a higher-quality source, but even FLAC and CD audio sound terrible. They can shove those P5s and the P7s I was considering right up their asses sideways.
>>55373634
you can find akg k712 for 320 on ebay
or hd598
>>55373882
By higher quality source they likely mean you shouldn't play them from your phone or motherboard.
Is there a point to having a headphone apmlifier if i usually have a low volume anyway?
>>55372724
Most position related variance is the fault of reflections, and headphones have plenty of it. The positional variance is what you want to eliminate; a tuning mechanism that only reduces 6 kHz doesn't solve the problem, which the resonator doesn't do.
Whatever the source, as long as it is constant, it can EQ'ed out.
The Anax mods barely work, and they don't appear to be helping the peak at all on that graph. Data indicates a limited contribution of effect from the enclosure, but the information is not in total agreement.
As to what variance shows up on Tyll's graphs, there's some inherent vagueness there. Standard procedure, which Tyll follows, is to measure the with cup at center, above, below, left, and right of the ear. The HD800 has very large cups, so the position distances involved in measurement may be greater than the variation typically experienced. I might have something to show that.
>>55370565
An audio mixer with an EQ?
>>55373634
Philips Fidelio X2, though I think they might be over budget a bit. Don't know what headphones cost in Australia.
>>55373946
Yeah, I know. First they blamed low-bitrate MP3s and Youtube. I've plugged them into three receivers (two Yamaha and a Technics), a old Discman, a Behringer headphone amp with my Technics turntable, and they've all sounded like shit. Not just bad, absolutely terrible. Especially considering that they say an iPhone will drive them fine. The impedance is only 32 Ω and my 60 Ω Senns sound good with those sources.
>>55374011
Somehow, headphone users seem to think that high impedance loads are more difficult. I don't know how that happened.
Reviews are less than reliable, and are rather infamous for being bad at audio and lacking the ability to evaluate critically. The audio press is known for being soft on the manufacturers; how else do you think we get stuff like Brilliant Pebbles?
The B&W P5 is not so good, and P7 is only OK. The P5 doesn't even sound that much like the P7.
>>55373952
Impedance buffer, and not much else. If you play around with gain, you might be able to do something about residual noise.
>>55370255
Auray Sheep Skin Pads.
>>55374011
Which sennheisers?
>>55370231
>>55370384
If poeple here talked more about music, yes, talking more about headphones however makes this thread very /g/. What's next, monitors go on /v/ or /tv/ and keyboards on /lit/?
>>55374531
HD 570.
>>55370197
Best 25 dollar headphones in the world
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003LPTAYI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467468133&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=headphones+over+ear&dpPl=1&dpID=41EOdcYqT3L&ref=plSrch
>>55373166
You shouldn't take his words for granted. He likes to tinker and I get the interest in DIY stuff in general. In the case that you actually want to fix the problem effectively here, PEQ does everything that the mods do and better. It's much more powerful tool than damping and especially effective with headphones. Only reason I'd consider modding would be in a scenario where I couldn't be able to use PEQ. That isn't a realistic scenario imo.
>>55374955
No. TH02+HM5pads is best starter headphone.
>>55370345
Nope.
HD662 EVO is currently the best SL headphone.
Modding it takes 15 mins and some toilet paper. No kidding. Look it up.
It blows a lot of premium headphones out of the water.
>>55375069
shieet, not that anon, but i've got a set of superlux 668Bs currently being shipped to me
:(
>>55372526
Anyone got a response of the coupler Tyll uses? Those plots look a bit off from most HD 800 measurements.
>>55373882
>Their tech support said that I need a higher-quality source
I bet they think that helps with the looks too. P5 is very prone to bass leakage and its sound signature can differ greatly from one individual to another or just simply when fitting them on various of times.
>>55373952
They work fine from those.
>>55373952
Noise and impedance buffer like >>55374196 said. Noise is likely not a problem for you if you are playing on low volumes anyway. You might sleep better at nights knowing your gear is good.
>>55374196
>I don't know how that happened.
I'd say marketing and terrible spec sheets which advertise devices being able to "drive up to 300 Ohms" had an effect on it. Easier to create a buzzword than explain how things actually work. Effective in sales.
>>55375019
The response isn't all that nice. Square waves are useless as ever there. "Gentle slope" for an "ideal response" is not a -10 to -15 dB drop from 1 kHz to 5 kHz.
Anyone know if the Sennheiser HD 451 are a good deal for 40 euro?
>>55370255
Auray Sheepskins or DT250 pads are popular options.
>>55373964
>>55372724
>RE: Positional variance
A set of graphs, left is magnitude, right is group delay. HD 800 is the one label "a".
Shows good frequency and phase stability compared to the two headphones in the test, (Stax Lambda is "b" and HD 650 is "c").
As a bit of a side note, for whatever reason the Lambda doesn't show off its usual leak issues in the magnitude plots, but you get the usual phase shift/group delay variation associated with the leak susceptibility.
>>55375262
>Anyone got a response of the coupler Tyll uses?
Not sure what you mean. Tyll's head has short canals, raising the first canal resonance to around 3.5-4 kHz, when it ought to be closer to 2.7-3.0 kHz.
>Those plots look a bit off from most HD 800 measurements.
Besides the canal issue, it doesn't seem too out of line from quick inspection, compared to the one at Soundstage! or GoldenEars.
>>55375019
The square waves aren't helpful. They only tell less information than the usual frequency domain plots.
>>55370197
bang
>have AKG 242HD, gr8 for gaming and what grados can't do rite
>have Grado Sr80i
>buy pic related
>drown in my own cum
>start looking at Grado and AKG with disdain
At least grado does SOME metal rite...
Any IEM recs that will make me cum again? Just mention them, I'll figure out how to get them some day.
Already set on RHA 750 for next purchase, though.
Just ordered Fiio E10k and AKG K702s, how badly did I fuck up? (was 180 britbongs since the pound is tanking).
>>55376403
you did very good
>>55376403
You didn't fuck up, that's the standard price and that was also my first ever real headphone and amp, nice set up mayne. I hope you don't love bass though ;)
>>55376403
Welcome to the club man!
Just bought me a pair of k7xx's off of massdrop (every review i looked up online told that they're breddy gud if you happen to like bass which i do, also i couldn't fnd why does /hpg/ hate them with such a passion), but i'm very new to this stuff.
What kind of dac and/or amp would go well with them. i plan on using them with my computer and my phone if that matters.
Oh and i would like to use them for gayming as well like strapping on a modmic or similar, but will the mic pick up the sound from the headphones since they're open back?
>>55376465
who is your waifu
>>55376613
Satellite from freezing
>>55376465
>>55376648
sweet
thanks man
>>55376678
Nice taste friendo :)
Is there any AUDIBLE upgrade from a FiiO E10?
By upgrade I mean a more objectively accurate sound.
>>55376998
the o2 amp gets a TINY bit more out of the sound but it costs a more, if you want a dac as well (which you will than it costs a LOT more. I used to own the e10k and I now own the o2 amp. Honestly I wouldn't bother. get better headphones first if you want an improvement.
What are some good speakers I can buy right now? After having my bad plastic speakers break on me, I've decided that I need an upgrade.
>>55377243
Yamaha HS8
>>55376549
/hpg/ is more focused (or obsessed) with a neutral response than other places.
Pairings don't exist, but constraints such as price and form factor do.
You may not find yourself needing the amplifier.
>>55376998
It gets louder.
Zout can be lower.
That's about it.
>>55377287
Something under $200 please.
>>55376998
Noise can be better as well.
>>55377243
>>55377340
Budget is the first thing you're supposed to tell us. The next is location and such.
>>55377350
Okay here:
>Budget
Under $200
>Location
USA
>Source
PC
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>>55376998
If you do happen to upgrade your E10 can you please update us what's the difference in sound quality. I also have a E10.
>>55376281
do you have IEMs as well?
>>55376549
>>55377291
k7xx do not need an amplifier.
I think k7xx are especially heresy for owners of other akg headets, but since the frequency mids, tight bass, clear mids, and general akg sound are all gone. but maybe people that hate akg will like them.
>>55377505
Yeah the piston 3's and the KZ ed9's which are slightly better imo, they're cheaper as well on ali express. They're good enough for me, iem's are just something to casually listen to whilst travelling so spending a lot of money on them is stupid imo.
>>55376549
Mate buy an e10k, it's fairly cheap and it's all you need for those headphones, it will be slightly better than using no amp despite what some people on here will say.
>>55377592
nice, that makes sense
I walk around with ear penises, and it's a little weird because I feel completely disconnected from the outside world despite walking straight through it.
>>55377655
>I walk around with ear penises
wot
>>55377397
A pair of Infinity P153 bookshelves, and cheap amp/receiver to power it.
Used market has more options, passive or powered speakers.
>>55377583
Nothing needs an amplifier. Except for when it does. But sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it does.
The sweeping yes/no doesn't work well.
There is going to be variation in the use cases, in the listener, the choice of music, and the electronics.
>>55377865
>and cheap amp-reciever to power it.
Such as? Never bought an amp before desu.
I just came to say that I just bought the Sennheiser HD201 to upgrade from Philips SHP2000 and I AM DISAPPOINTED.
They are barely more comfortable and the bass is far worse, worst 40 dollars ever spent.
I fell for the Sennheiser meme ladies and gentlemen.
>>55378233
>I fell for the Sennheiser meme ladies and gentlemen.
No, you fell for the any headphone under $200 is good meme.
>>55378380
$200 dollars is a small fortune here, you have to realize that not everyone lives in the first world like you, and in a month I earn barely above 3 times that.
It's atrocious to even think of wasting that money in headphones, but for twice the price of the Philips, I expected more.
https://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-EDT250V-Headphone-Pads-Black/dp/B0016MF7W2
So these for the MDRV6 right?
>>55378233
>I fell for the Sennheiser meme ladies and gentlemen.
Wrong Sennheisers bro
HD600.
>>55377969
Some cheap Lepai T-amp would fit.
Old receivers are easy to find, Craigslist or Goodwill and the like.
Alternately, skip the passive speaker+amp hunt and scour used lists for the powered B2030a or LSR305.
>>55378436
If you lived in some place that is as poor as you're suggesting, you should've read up on using a parametric EQ. It benefits everyone, but those low on money especially.
>HD201
I don't think anyone would have recommended that headphone.
>>55378465
That or the Auray Sheepskin.
>>55378436
Fair enough, but you should have looked into it a bit more if that amount of money means so much to you. you're better off selling both pairs and saving a little bit to buy something decent like the dt770.
If you care enough to come here and talk about headphones then i'm sure you can be patient and save a bit of money.
how is your overall experience on audio output from motherboards? im considering to buy a gigabyte sniper, instead an cheaper one just because the specs says it has better amp audio output. Is it much difference from a cheaper Motherboard?
Can someone post the webm of that guy listening to the headphones and he's twitching having an eargasm or something.
>>55379387
Tyll Hertsens in that video was not having a eargasm. Fuck you.
I believe he as reenacting that Ultrasones fucking suck ass.
>>55377243
JBL LSR 305
>>55376079
I don't recommend the DT250 pads on headphones like M50 and V6, it creates a dip in the mid-bass on those headphones.
The Auray pads are fine however.
IEM unboxing: I'm at work edition
>>55373406
What's the defining characteristic of autism?
>restrictive and repetitive behavior
What have you been doing doing?
>Autism
>Autism
>Autism
If anyone in this thread has autism . . .
>>55379875
Got me some hf2's. Interested to hear what they sound like.
>>55376079
>As a bit of a side note, for whatever reason the Lambda doesn't show off its usual leak issues in the magnitude plots
this is a wild fucking guess, but maybe they didn't break the seal.
>>55379153
>because the specs says
manufacturer specs are worthless
>>55379859
>DT250 pads on headphones like M50 and V6, it creates a dip in the mid-bass
prove it
>>55379891
Contents of the box. Didn't k ow this thing came with so many tips. Gonna try the grey flange tips. With my Clip+ real fast.
>>55379908
>prove it
You niggers seriously need to stop recommending DT250 pads on the Sonys.
>>55379917
>so many tips
>three sets
>>55379938
>can't count
>>55379891
get some impedance adapters like the ones they come bundled with the etymotic er4pt
makes my hf5s have extended high frequencies
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm
thoughts?
>>55379917
>>55379938
Whoops! Wrong pic.
>>55379954
Are you including the set that came ON them? The ones you HAVE to get to even use them in the first place? Okay, pedant. FOUR SETS. Are you happy now?
>>55379917
YMMV, the clear flanges work well for me, the grey flanges feel like the first time I tried anal.
>>55379938
I meant different types.
>>55379987
RHA plebs pls go.
>>55379991
I figured id go with the clear ones first. There actually very comfortable. I think the greys would be too big, Sonoma probably with you on that. Kid I work with who's a composer commented on the dark grey foam tips. He says those work best for him. Might try them next.
>>55379970
I'll look into it thanks bruh
>>55380062
How's the sound thus far?
>>55380011
Don't cut yourself on that edge, kid.
>>55380117
Going through the genre's now, starting with older hip hop. The only things I have to compare these to are my shirt se215s, and the bass difference is incredible. The hf2's have an incredibly detailed bass tone compared to the 215. 215s are muddy as all hell. But the surprising thing is the presence of it. People who recommended it said it was very neutral, I feel there's a larger bass presence than people make these out to have. Which I like.
Moving on to alien ant farm to get a get a feel for mids and highs. There's no tinniness to the highs whatsoever, bit it's crisp. Mids are warm as far as I can tell.
Listening to above and beyond right now, and it's all so incredibly clear. So far they're incredibly fun to listen to.
Very similar to the sound of my m50s. Little less detailed but only minutely so.
These are so much easier to put on than my 215s too. Fuck those things.
>>55380001
>I meant different types.
MY shenanigans sense is screaming.
There are only three different types. Soft silicone, tri-flange, and foamies. I find it hard to believe you originally meant types when your first response wouldn't have been "can't count."
>>55380299
That wasn't my first response that was another anon.
I meant types. My 215s only came with silicone and foams of 3 different sizes each. Any other item I've ever bought before that, which haven't been many, only came with different sizes for regular silicone tips.
>>55380256
I really dislike the SE215 myself and I still think it's the worst purchase I've ever made among the countless IEMs that I've owned. Hell, a fucking $5 Panasonic IEM has better FR and clarity than those things.
Etymotics are perfect once inserted correctly, the FR is smooth and generally free from harsh peaks.
>>55379908
>but maybe they didn't break the seal.
That is somewhere between improbable and impossible.
>>55379930
I remember these posts from years ago now; I didn't care back then.
Does anyone care to establish what the Aurays do?
>>55380396
>Does anyone care to establish what the Aurays do?
You can take my word on it, the Aurays sound very similar to the stock pads. There might be a change in the FR but I probably didn't hear it.
At least I can easily hear the difference between the DT250 pads and the other pads.
The stock pads wear out too quickly.
>Budget
Under $300 flexible
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfort is a priority
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>>55380673
HD 600
Ok so don't buy the EDT250V for my MDRV6
Anything other than those? The Aurays are not an option since they cost $57 on amazon
>>55370197
>my g930 is starting to only play audio in one ear after 3-4 years
>dont have the $160 to buy another one
did I seriously pay $160 for this? the felt on the ears started coming off in small bits a year ago. fucking logitech
>>55380980
>Wireless 7.1 Gaming Headset
Are you retarded?
>>55381037
I keep it plugged in, why is it so retarded? Not an audiophile
>>55378706
Fair enough, I rushed it.
Actually after a couple of hours they are VERY painful to wear for me, my left ear hurts like hell, and the sound its disappointing, a little bit more of amplification, but that's it.
Honestly I went back to the SHP2000, way more comfortable and they costed $20 bucks 2 years ago, I just gifted the HD201 to someone that didn't have any right now, maybe they will enjoy them more than me.
There isn't much to choose from here, I could get something in Amazon but the top for importing is $200 taxes and shipping included I think (4 times per year), I just want something COMFORTABLE and with a decent bass, but comfort means everything to me.
I'm willing to spend some money I guess if its really worth it, and buy again in 2 or 3 months, but I don't want to be disappointed again because it hurts to spend the little money I have in something awful that causes me pain to wear.
>>55378591
Those cost 550 locally, practically a month's salary for me haha, I would love to but absolutely not, maybe someday if I'm in a better position.
what sound cards are Linux friendly?
>>55381123
I'm the guy you're responding to.
>I just want something COMFORTABLE and with a decent bass
Try the takstar 2050, you can get them cheap from ali express etc . Great build quality, nice comfort and the sound should be better than the headphones that you own. They were my first ever good headphone and they're very good for the money. They're a quality product all around for the money.
>>55381223
External DACs and amps don't need drivers.
Why do you absolutely need a sound card for? If you're just going to disable all enhancements.
>>55380980
Buy another Logitech or Steelseries headset.
You're not a part of the club. Fuck off to >>>/v/
>>55381229
>Try the takstar 2050
150 in Amazon and just saw them for 99 in Ali express, ok, I'll save some money then try luck in a couple of months.
Someone recommended me the Creative Aurvana Live for cheap comfy headphones, do you have any idea about those?
Thanks man.
>>55376678
sauce on waifu?
>>55376403
Not bad at all.
>>55381265
I require muh 7.1 surround sound
Basically does Linux support anything Dolby/THX/Xfi?
>>55380802
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888545-REG/Auray_eps_mdr7506_Genuine_Sheepskin_Leather_Earpads.html
>>55381431
No can do senpai, can only order from amazon
>>55381360
Looks like Nabiki from Ranma 1/2 (a poor shoop though).
>>55381311
What currency and country mate? i'm curious to see how much the 2050's are where you're from.
>>55381528
Uruguay, locally I buy in $U, but most electronic products are sold in dollars anyway.
For example the HD201 were listed at 39dol, when I said I wanted to pay in local currency he made the calculation ($U 1230).
>>55381667
I'd still say go for the 2050 then. Check out this video and don't worry about the faggots here that will tell me to go back to >reddit, I've never been there for more than 5 seconds, they just hate this guy.
Skip to the 8 min mark or watch the whole tihng if you want. This vid should sell you on the takstars. Like I said I used to own them and they're amazing for the price.
>>55379930
if the graphs were normalized to 1 kHz instead of ~2.5, it would be more of a boost than a dip in the mid-bass
>>55381780
>Forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjbwkUA2WIs
>>55381419
Bumping for this.
I want recommendations too that works for headphones.
I want a external DAC that doesn't need software or drivers that is better than 5.1 Dolby Pro Logic II. I already own a O2+ODAC.
I bought a k701 for 150 eurobucks on amazon a little while ago. so far I'm very happy with them, they sound nice and are VERY comfy, I kept reading conflicting reviews about the comfortness but they're way better than the siberia v2's I had before.
I read a lot about them and each time I read I need a dac/amp. onboard/pci sound cards not being able to drive them properly but what does that mean exactly, I've read people said they'l sound soft without but I'm listening with windows volume on 10 MAX and most of the time on 2 or 4(out of 100).
right now I'm on ancient SB audigy soundcard but honestly if the supposedly low volume doesn't bother me, is it still worth to get a dac/amp? I don't mind buying something like an e10k(rather not spend much more than that on it).
>>55382154
The arguement is that amps drive the headphones properly and squeeze every last ounce out of them. The differences are small but they exist.
Buy the fiio e10k from amazon, if you can't hear a difference send it back. Simple.
>>55381813
They look really nice.
Thanks for the advice.
>Budget
£70
>Location
England
>Source
Samsung s6
>Preferred type of headphone
On ear
>Open or closed
Don't mind
>Comfort level
I'm going to be wearing them for like 10 hours + a day, so they gotta be pretty comfortable
>Past headphones
M6 Pro
>>55380256
any further comments?
surprised to hear they are similar to m50 for you, which have bass emphasis. I found the hf5 line to recently receive a bass bump, but I thought it brought them closer to neutral, and not something emphasized like m50. m50 is a good headphone though.
Is going for a balanced amp for an end game head phone like the 800 S worth it?
jesus christ what happened
Does a 32/384 DAC without a built-in amp exist?
I want to use it with my android phone in my car.
All I could find was chink shit:
www.amazon.com/M2Tech-hiFace-Hi-End-Async-Audio/dp/B00CFEWL24/
>>55382843
Might be the pads I have on them now, but it sounds fairly similar. I'm using brainwavz leather memory foam pads which changed the sound a bit from hat I remember.
As far as further comments, not too much. I just received them so I haven't had a change to really burn them in a bit, but comfort wise they're fantastic. Theyre incredibly light compared to my 215s and so much less cumbersome around the ear. With the flange tips they barely feel like they're there at all.
>>55382883
>800 S
>end game
>>55382936
OH. Cable noise may be an issue as its just a standard rubber cable, but it included a shirt clip to keep em from moving around. I might employ that clip in the future.
And they're matte in finish, so no real ear grease sticking to it making it all slick looking after a while. Fairly impressed by these.
>>55382898
>Tyll was Harold this whole time
>>55382976
I was about to mention the cable noise; it can be pretty bad and is much more pronounced than with other IEMs I've used. For me though this is a small annoyance and I love the hf5. A friend uses the clip, but I'm too lazy.
By the way, they come with a cleaning rod, and replacement blue thingies that catch bullshit falling into the tube. Frequency with which you need to clean probably varies by person.
>>55383036
Yeah I've never had too much of an issue with wax build up. I clean tips fairly often with dish or hand soap and let em dry when they get bad. Normally never makes it to the drivers.
>>55382925
anyone?
>>55383036
Have you tried running them over ears rather than down ears? Letting the cable lay across the top of your ears tends to help with microphonics.
>>55382925
Why are you looking specifically to pay for placebo?
>>55382154
The wiki does have a section on amps. Read it, unless you already did and didn't understand.
>but what does that mean exactly
>not being able to drive them properly
It's a vague statement, isn't it?
A headphone driver is a motor, and the connected electronics supply voltage to make it move. If you supply a little voltage, it moves a little. If you supply more, it moves more and makes more sound. There is no issue in supplying too little voltage to the driver, besides not making it move enough.
Electronics do have an optimal range of operation, and limits on how much voltage and current they can handle. You can think of the voltage as what makes the headphone work, but for any voltage, there is an associated current with it that depends on impedance (Z). The lower the Z, the more current is needed for some amount of voltage. Normal audio circuits are built to maximize the optimal (aka linear) range across a wide range of voltages, only being seriously frustrated by noise, interference, and limits of regulated current and voltage.
If you force the circuit past its optimal range:
-the distortion creeps up with increased level
or
-the linear limits are a hard limit, and you clip the signal peaks
If the electronics you have a failing with the headphone load you give it, you use new gear to solve that issue.
The typical issue is not enough voltage, so you get an amplifier, one with high enough linearity given the playback requirement. You get the DAC generally for noise, and move these electronics away from sources of interference.
There are a few other issues such as crosstalk and output Z
-Crosstalk is of very limited importance, if at all in practice
-Output Z goes back to voltage. Z can vary with frequency, and voltage is spread out in a circuit in proportion to Z of each part. If Z is too high in any part of the circuit (amp or wiring) relative to the headphone, especially at a specific frequency, the headphone gets less voltage, and the level drops
>>55382883
>going for a balanced amp
I would call it a total waste of time, serving no particular purpose
>>55382843
HF5/ER-4P has had a midbass bump for as long I care to remember.
>>55382735
Creative Aurvana Live, maybe?
>>55383362
with the hf5? no I haven't tried. I did what you say back when I had shure's many years ago; their shape seemed more suited for it, but worth a shot..
>>55383785
The hf5's I got about 4 months ago, which were my 3rd pair, seemed to have a little more bass than preceding iterations, and a less harsh treble.
(Actually this latest pair is hf2, previous were all hf5, but it shouldn't matter.)
> Accidentally plug my headphones on the line out jack on my X3ii
> Go deaf
NICE KNOWING YOU NERDS
AT LEAST I DON'T HAVE TO WASTE MONEY ON THIS STUPID HOBBY ANYMORE
How'd I do /g/?
>>55386373
Nice stool.
>>55386373
You fell for the meme just like I did. They aren't bad but theres better ones for the money. All in all I am happy with mine though
>>55386539
Got 'em for $60, what's better for the same amount?
>Budget
$200-$300
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung s6
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as the smiley dude in the blanket
>Past headphones
I've used multiple cheaper gaming headsets, but I have bought a couple In-ears that were more expensive (75-200)
>>55386816
shit rip copy pasta, source is going to be a DAC once I find a decently priced one. Also would love a pair with a v shaped sound
>>55386816
>>55386830
DT770 and E10k if you need it.
Absolute most dirt cheap headset with good enough surround sound for FPS gayming?
Glorious HD201 user coming through.
>>55378380
Shut the fuck up you dumb faggot, any headphone OVER $100 is a complete waste
>>55386865
ty anon, i was having trouble finding things on my own
Old MDR's died and I'm looking for a new pair
Was looking at the Sennheiser 598's
But I'll fill out the form so it isn't >Opinions
>Budget: Max 180
>Location: US
>Source: 3.5mm into a FiiO amp
>Preferred type of headphone: Full sized
>Open or closed Open
>Comfort level Doesn't really matter
>Preferred tonal balance Bassy but with some treble so V shaped I guess
>Past headphones Sony MDR V6's
Thanks in advanced anons
>>55387324
I went from MDR 7506 to HD598 and love them
>>55387471
I hear the HD598's lack impactful bass though. Is that true?
I like rather punchy bass as I listen to a lot of house and stuff.
>>55387513
Perhaps if you're used to niggerbass headphones, but in your case coming from the MDRs they'll just sound better overall
>>55387527
Flat frequency response is a meme, stop being an autist.
Literally nothing wrong with niggerbass.
>>55387527
>>55387572
I'm looking at the DT 990 pro's and reading some reviews match what I'm looking for. Do I press the buy button?
>>55387572
Don't worry, I enjoy niggerbass music as much as the next guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YU2Cb2MVno but it's better to have balanced headphones where you can just eq the niggerbass in rather than niggerbass headphones that just suck shit at everything else
So I bought a pair of RHA MA750i's a while back, and honestly, they don't sound as good as I feel they should. They sound nearly the same as some $30 Sony earphones that I have. They really don't sound like they are worth $100 more than my Sonys. Do the T20's sound much better and is the higher price justified, or should I go with another brand entirely?
>>55386373
>>55386539
Been using it for a week or three too good anons, I'm in loved with it. I know there's still better to compare but I'm onto it for the mean time.
>Budget
$300-400, don't mind paying more as these would be my "endgame" so to speak.
>Location
Australia
>Source
Plan on getting an E10k
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Max. Don't mind some clamp.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
>M50x
I don't find them as uncomfortable as a lot claim. Soundwise, I think they're okay at best. Bass gets intrusive in some of my tracks.
>>55388810
DT880 600 Ohm
AKG Q701
HD600
>>55388810
HD600.
http://www.addictedtoaudio.com.au/product/sennheiser-hd600-audiophile-reference-hifi-stereo-headphones
Hello friends, I need your help
>Budget
$150ish, flexible
>Location
Croatia, or just yurop in general
>Source
PC so either USB or 3.5mm is ok. USB preferred (please note that i don't know if usb adversely affects the sound quality, this is just for convenience)
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I will keep them on for hours on end so I would appreciate comfyness
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral i guess
>Past headphones
Currently using Logitech G35, never buying gayming shit again, iz has a buzz in the left ear when the mic is on and the surround sound is a meme. They ARE damn comfy though
Also if you got a recommendation for a standalone mic that would help too
Is fiio e10k sufficient for my first amp/dac or is there something else that I should look into?
>max $100
>US
>my laptop
>full sized
>still deciding if I want open or closed... I think I will go with whatever is cheaper for the overall quality. Is soundstage that much better for video games?
>Comfort level: I want to wear them all day everyday
> I don't like really strong basses
>a piece of crap from pantronics
>>55389383
Yes it's sufficient. Everything above that is basically snakeoil, unless you need to drive a super hard-to-drive headphone.
>>55376079
>Not sure what you mean. Tyll's head has short canals, raising the first canal resonance to around 3.5-4 kHz, when it ought to be closer to 2.7-3.0 kHz
I guess that. The notch after 1 kHz looks odd.
>>55382883
There's absolutely no reason to run headphones balanced.
>>55382925
Yes. Why do you want one? The extra bits and sampling rates have no use.
Oppo HA-1 and Fostex HP-A8C come to mind. Nice build and feature set, complete overkill for real world usage in almost any situation. Oppo is a bit noisy from what I can remember. Also really expensive.
>>55389268
fuck off back to r eddit sennfag
>>55389596
>Within budget
>Fulfills requirements
>fuck off back to r eddit sennfag
Feel free to suggest something else.
Is different headphones for different genres a meme?
Should a good pair of headphones sound good regardless of the genre?
>>55388810
> M50X
> I think they're okay at best
Are you sure to want a neutral headphone?
>>55389639
>Is different headphones for different genres a meme?
Yes.
>Should a good pair of headphones sound good regardless of the genre?
Yes, because the best headphones are neutral and make you appreciate your music for what it is. If anything sucks on a neutral headphone, it's not the headphone's fault.
>>55389640
Yes. The whole reason I'm considering buying another headphone instead of keeping one is because I understand exactly what I don't want, which is apparently a v-shaped signature.
Also, there is a place where I can try out headphones just to make sure.
Whats the most comfotable and ok sounding headphones under 75 usd
>>55389639
>Is different headphones for different genres a meme?
Sort of. Good headphones even with an uncomplimentary sound signature will still sound good but it may sound lifeless. You get all the correct sound but it can seem almost artificial in the way it does so.
For example, Ety IEMs are noted for the analytical sound. It will still sound good if you listen to music that uses a lot of bass. I auditioned ER4P and my usual test suite which includes a couple tracks of organ music as well as the prelude to Phantom of the Opera for its organ and orchestra swells. It still sounds good.
However, it sound better to have something that makes better use of the lower end. To continue the above example, I'd rather use the MA750 over the ER4P for most rock, EDM, DnB, dubstep, etc. because it has a more impactful and textured low end.
>>55376465
>>55376678
>>55386373
These AKG shills... I don't get the sound signature they do. It's always odd like the K550s.
>>55381395
How's the Scarlet series doing? And what's the difference between each of them? I'm planning on getting a cheap one in the future for my microphone.
>>55382898
He got fucked when he listened to those headphones that made him die in the inside.
>>55389732
Best you fill out the form but in strictly comfort, SHP9500.
Decent earphones for around 100 eur or are IEMs better? They seem a bit unaesthetic
>>55389788
>unaesthetic
Headphones in general are unaesthetic. You don't get headphones as a fashion statement. Unless your one of those fuckwits that think the image of Beats or M50X would make you look cool.
>>55389788
Earbuds are few and far between as IEMs have become the dominant force for mobile personal audio. Unless you need earbuds for their lack of isolation it is generally recommended you go with IEMs.
>>55389611
K702
>>55372526
PEQ cannot brings up the bass as convincingly as the SD resonator does.
>>55389802
>>55389837
Okay then. Good IEMs for around 100 EUR?
>>55389960
Did I miss it but did you fill out the form?
>>55389960
https://www.amazon.de/Shure-SE215-Sound-Isolation--Ear-Ohrh%C3%B6rer/dp/B004U9NH3E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467545039&sr=8-1&keywords=shure+se215
Good non-profile IEM's. You can give more monies for black ones. And they sound pretty alright for the price. Although their portability is equal to none. You can pretty much bring these everywhere and the cable is replaceable. You can sleep with them because of their negative profile. Although expect it to sound like Sennheiser's signature sound. Which is typically warm.
>>55389911
don't blame your own incompetence on the EQ
>>55389885
Every fucking time. Fuck off with your harsh no bass headphones. I swear to god it's the same 2 or 3 people shilling 702's because it's all they can afford. They're good but 600's are better, deal with it.
>>55389911
That makes no sense and the resonator does not bring up the bass, it merely dampens the peaks around 6 kHz.
>>55390022
SE215 got eclipsed by the MA750. The only reason to suggest them SE215 is detachable cables.
>>55389960
The form exists for a reason. A safe choice would be RE400 or HF5, if you can handle Etymotic deep insertion.
>>55390022
>Good non-profile IEM's.
Shure's look like hearing aids and I use SE535 myself.
>And they sound pretty alright for the price.
If BASS BASS BASS BASS is pretty alright, then sure. Pistons sound better.
>Although expect it to sound like Sennheiser's signature sound. Which is typically warm.
What Senn sounds like SE215?
>>55390053
Every fucking time. Fuck off with your muddy no bass headphones. I swear to god it's the same 2 or 3 people shilling 600's because it's all they can afford. They're good but 400i's are better, deal with it.
>>55390094
>What Senn sounds like SE215?
By that. I meant stuff like the HD598 which is typically warm. Not as warm as the SE215.
>>55390090
Didn't know the MA750 replaced em, but I need that replaceable cable, because having IEM's over $100 should all have fucking detachable cables.
>>55390107
>having IEM's over $100 should all have fucking detachable cables.
RHA went with robust lifetime build supported with a three year warranty rather than a one year.
>>55390121
So? The point still stands. After those 3 years or your second pair shitting out. You have to dosh out a new pair. Which is retarded. All headphones over $100+ have to have detachable cables. No fucking excuses. And also make the replacement cables cheap at the price of $10 for IEM's, On-Ear $15-20, and Over-Ear $25+.
>Budget
$100-$150
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible... better if earcups are not sweat magnets
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Audio Technica M30x
Who /HD600/ here?
>>55390149
>After those 3 years or your second pair shitting out.
How long do you think the drivers will last even with detachable cables? Would it be reasonable to expect it to go bad after a year (due to the one year warranty) but before three years have passed? Leading to the same situation of "dosh out on a new pair" a year or two earlier?
>>55390168
If you get headphones that are 100% replaceable like the Sennheiser HD600, HD-25-1 II, or others. The lifespan of something like those $500+ headphones are at least 10-15 years or so. If you have those 100% replaceable headphones. Those can never be fucked up and you can pay cheap for those parts on Ebay, Craigslist, or even on the Sennheiser website.
>>55390053
go back to r eddit sennshill
>>55390160
K612
>>55390164
fuck off with that r eddit tier garbage
>>55390164
Most people in these threads don't enjoy veiled headphones, there are better and cheaper alternatives around.
I was watching this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWmtVFeA_Q
If people are arguing about DACs that sound different. Then how about Cables? Does anyone here specifically changed their cables and noticed a difference? I want answers from those who have.
>>55390199
People are too fucking dumb to learn on their own to solder in a new stock cable.
Example. Buy this stock cable + solder it = Fixed. Why fucking complain that they don't have detachable shit?
http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/spare-parts/service-set-anschlusskabel.html
http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/spare-parts/service-set-anschlusskabel-1.html
>>55390199
What 100% replaceable IEMs are there in the $100 price point of the market?
The right earbud in the pl50s has gone extremely faint after 6 months of barely using them, has anyone else encountered such a problem. Are they fucked or can do I have some form of warranty
>>55390261
Solder in a new cable. Or are you incompetent to even do it? I swear people are too dumb and want detachable shit.
>>55390256
None as I know. Which fucking sucks.
>>55390254
I agree. Just do what this man does. I am the anon your responding to. And really soldering it will solve all the cases with the anons above. Although having a detachable cable there in the first place makes me have less busy work.
>>55390254
Neither cables nor dacs make anything sound different, it's pure and stupid snakeoil. The sole things that can change the sound (in a worse way) are tube amps. E10K is the only thing you need to drive your headphones properly, unless you have electrostatic heapdhones or super-hard-to-drive headphones like some high end headphones or vintage stuff like AKG K1000.
>>55390285
>None as I know. Which fucking sucks.
So in the previous hypothetical the MA750 would be a wiser purchase if longevity is the primary concern.
Is there a good EQ for the MDR-7506 that helps lessen the immense treble?
>>55390439
Measurements are all over the place and suggest different peaks at 5k and 10k.
Best way is to listen to sine sweeps, find out which frequency hurts and reduce it a few db.
>>55370517
>>55376465
>suddenly these same templates being posted again
>sennshill posts on repeat
welp was fun for the last months when we had none of this shit
>inb4 fiio e10k + k702 for every rec
>>55390574
Figures it wouldn't be that easy, never is. Thanks for the help though.
>>55390256
>What 100% replaceable IEMs
There isn't any such in-ear at all that lets you disassemble down to the driver and tubing. You can replace filters, cables, and faceplates if that.
I wouldn't rely on the end user to be able to perform precision surgery, and making the enclosure easy to open causes more problems than otherwise on those small earpieces.
Actually, the easy to disassemble and replace headphone is rare, Sennheiser and AKG doing it for select models.
>>55390439
-Figure it out yourself
-Make cuts at somewhere around 3-4 kHz and 8-10kHz.
>>55390585
>There isn't any such in-ear at all
See >>55390335
>Budget
$250 usd
>Location
US
>Source
PC mainly, sometimes phone and vita
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very comfortable, as I wear them for long periods of time
>Preferred tonal balance
bright
>Past headphones
Logitech G930.
>>55390579
Edgy
