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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
T61 reporting
bumpin for chinkpads.
Got my 460p today.
>>54887467
Good build quality. Light. Lacking physical buttons but at least the touchpad is pretty good.
Screen colors a bit off out of the box, lacking vibrance.
I guess I can ask my question here.
Looking to buy an x220 on eBay. Should I get the 2-in-1 or regular? Is there a difference in build quality?
Touchscreen or no? I want to use it outside so brightness/contrast is important.
And how much should I pay for it, how much is too much?
Thanks.
Are there any thinkpads that don't look like bricks?
Is there something useful I can add to my X220 via express card slot?
>I already have USB 3.0 and don't fuck with eGPU
>>54887624
Geometrically?
Of course not its a laptop.
Which Thinkpads have the best screens?
I know I can replace the T420's with a 1080p panel, but I'm wondering which of the others are any good.
I seem to have blown the backlight fuses on my t420, where are they and how do I replace them?
>>54887806
google t420 inverter. when you take the front bezel off the screen it's at the bottom
Put Ubuntu on the x41 over Windows 10. It runs a lot better now, but the touchscreen has issues in Windowmaker.
Still mad as fuck about pic related
>>54887923
what is that?
>>54887866
I tried poking it a bit, but most people with no backlight seem to have problems with their fuses
>>54887534
What battery are you using? What do you normally use it for? Would you buy it again if you could do it over again? What physical buttons are "lacking"?
>>54887587
I think on the x220 only a few models come with a screen you can use your finger on.
Most of the "touchscreen" models only let you use a stylus
>>54888371
Is x230 a significant improvement over the x220?
What are the differences?
>>54887624
Probably x1 carbon
Bricks are pretty though.
>>54887945
Glue they used to attach bubble wrap
Which melted and got into the ram compartment, took me 5 hours to clean it
I'm wanted to try linux for the first time.
debian or ubuntu.
quick.
i might have accidentally bought a t430 for 280 euro on ebay.de. Did I fuck up ?
CPU Intel Core i5-3320M 2,6 GHz
Arbeitsspeicher 4 Gb DDR3-RAM
Festplatte 320 GB SATA
Laufwerke DVD-Brenner
Chipsatz Intel QM67
Grafik Intel HD Grafik // this is hd4000, right ?
Display 14" HD+ 1600x900 LED
Netzwerk Intel® 82579LM Gigabit
Audio High Definition (HD) Audio
I can transplant 2x4 gb and ssd from my current t410, not sure if the hdd bay would work with it. But I'd be settled for a long time with it i think
>>54888613
Why do you keep posting this thing
>quick
Obviously not time sensitive
What should my idle / average temps be on an X220?
Any guides for cleaning the fan or new thermal paste?
>>54888613
Debian. Accept no substitute.
>>54888407
Minimal performance difference but keyboard layout is different
>>54888613
I don't think it can handle Ubuntu or Debian to be honest.
We're talking 128mb of ram and a 500-700mhz processor.
Ubuntu would take up the entire hard drive.
Honestly, Windows 98 or 2000. My R30 does 2000 just fine on a 1ghz pentium 3, you could try a live usb of Ubuntu or something like puppy Linux
>>54888613
Give Arch a try
What's the worst that could happen?
>>54888623
and how is the HD+ display compared to the 14.1" WXGA+ (1440x900) on my t410 ? I kinda dislike it.
>>54888843
It's just a little wider, generally the same TN stuff.
Where are you thinking today /tpg/ ?
Looking at pictures of the 16:9 ThinkPads I notice a lot of bezel on top and bottom. Why didn't they use that space for 16:10?
>tfw X220 still hasn't shipped
>>54889101
So their customers can enjoy their movies and tv shows ;^)
Fuck documents and spreadsheets amirite?
It pains me inside how slow the decline of thinkpads are, to the point where it's hard to tell which one the 'last good one' was, as each newer version has better chips but worse everything else
>>54889119
I mean for a desktop setup I like using 16:9 primary and 4:3 or 3:4 secondary. For a laptop though 16:9 has always felt awkward.
So my T420 screen has no backlight what do I do?
>>54889442
Stick it in the oven.
how much can x220 overclock? i have seen it go from 700mhz to over 3ghz
>>54889468
That sounds like terrible advice, but if I were to do it, which part of it?
>>54889525
Unless you have a solid silver heat sink soldered to your cpu, don't oc a laptop.
I'm having trouble with my X220. I'm currently running it with Debian and the wifi drivers are detecting access points around it, however I can't connect to them.
I'm using NM and I get this error when trying to connect to my own networkNo network with SSID (name of SSID) found.
When using :nmcli d wifi list
I clearly see that my machine knows that it's there
Could it be something in the BIOS?
>>54889965
I had issue like this forever with my older Thinkpads, I ended up removing the wireless card and plugging it back in, and it connected to them just fine again.
No idea why, but it's basically a matter of unplugging it and plugging it back in.
If that does work, try to roll back to a previous driver, or try the non-free drivers if you don't mind proprietary shit.
>>54885827
what maintenance should I do on an x220 so far I'm thinking disassemble compressed air on the fans and taking all keys off an wiping it down
>>54890008
OK, i'll give that a shot. But before I go in and taking things apart do you think finding a more up to date BIOS might help? I was thinking I might install coreboot.
But even with all the wlan stuff aside, is coreboot worth installing?
>>54885875
T60 master race
have a wallpaper though, I almost bought the T61 but wanted the bigger screen and 4x3 for Unreal Tournament
battery life on this thing in 7 is ridiculous
>>54887534
>>54887467
Can you report on any instances of throttling under heavy useage? notebookcheck says its throttles under prime95 but honestly I don't think its a realistic situation- wonder about real useage instances of throttling or high temperatures (90degrees +)
>>54889088
Nice wallpaper, got a link?
I asked on the thread that 404'd last night but fell asleep before I got any responses.
What do I do with this yoga 14? Before you shittalk me, my grandmother purchased it for me after I mentioned thinkpads in passing.
Hey guys, I can't hear any sound from my X220. I'm currently running it with Openbox, it works with a DE, but how do I get audible sound with my WM?
>>54890840
install gentoo
>>54891028
I'll fucking do it.
I have never had a Thinkpad but I want to know...
What is the comfiest Thinkpad to use while laying in bed?
What should I use to clean my X220?
What's the general consensus on the X1 Carbon Gen 4 regarding durability, cooling, peformance and comfort?
>>54890877
Did you do all the usual shit like installing alsa and unmuting the audio channels with alsamixer or any mixer of your choice, or even just straight up install in pulse?
>>54891256
I just installed Openbox today, I didn't do anything yet. I'll do what you just said, thanks.
Just got my x220. Question, anyone have a recommendation for a case/sleeve for it? Nothing I have around the house fits it very well.
What sort of ssd do I need for an x220? I read something about some of them not fitting or something.
>>54891585
a generic 13 inch """"macbook"""" sleeve would be fine. Totally unnecessary but fine.
>>54891607
A standard 9mm should fit if you dont use the caddy, but it will be a bitch to get out again. Just get a Msata one and a large storage hdd.
X230 and caddy arrived today!!!! Let's play with that baby!
>>54888692
>What should my idle / average temps be on an X220?
upper 40s
>Any guides for cleaning the fan
pop off the kb, hold down the fan, blow away
>>54889088
scandinavian detected
>>54891644
nice feet.
>>54891815
thanks anon
Any suggestions for a HD caddy for my t420?
>>54892957
How about the one that fits a T420 ?
Literally how fucking hard can it be
>>54892957
Cardboard
![WP_20160506_02_06_38_Raw__4k[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EUq3nrI.jpg "WP_20160506_02_06_38_Raw__4k[1].jpg")
>>54891772
Correct ! Danish, as a matter of fact.
Here's a Lenovo ThinkCat for you.
Which is the better for battery life, Debian testing or Win10 ?
>>54893044
want to know the same
especially for my x200s
>>54890829
That's a logo for one of the Final Fantasy games.
Here's a link to a vector version, not with the same colors:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwyINmkEH-vrNjk4YmQxZDYtZWM3OS00MWE3LThmZTUtYzNkZTU0YjY5MmQw/view?pref=2&pli=1
>tfw my t420 arrived after being stuck in customs for three weeks
babby's first thinkpad, any suggestions for a newfag?
This laptop feels solid as fuck.
>>54893077
Get some nice lightweight distro in there.
>>54893077
Get a SSD. Make everything faster.
>>54893017
the clues.
>windows phone
>the layout of the square
>the coffee shop atmosphere
>near identical setup from places like finland
iberian fag here.
>>54893150
>lightweight
>>54893158
Seconding this.
>>54893150
Yeah i'm downloading Debian testing now but am i going to lose some thinkpad "features" if i go for the linux route?.
>>54893158
It came with a samsung 850 evo and 8gb ram, however i find weird that one stick is generic ddr3 1333mhz and the other is a samsung ddr3L 1600mhz.
by the way using that red dot thing as mouse feels weird
>>54893213
Looking good family
>>54893264
>am i going to lose some thinkpad "features" if i go for the linux route?.
None that I've missed.. Might have to tinker some to get the clit scroll working, but that's easy
>>54893264
You won't loose any features, I only put a dual boot on my x220 because I sometimes have to use IE for my job and to install a few games I almost never touch.
For me, the features of the x20 thinkpads are being robust, powerful enough for all I have to do on a laptop and having the best laptop keyboard, so not really os-dependent.
>>54893264
It took me three days to get used to the clit, now I can't live without it.
>>54892985
I've tried. They're either outrageously expensive for official or the reviews on Amazon say they don't fit the t420 very well.
>>54893489
why don't you go full /csg/ then and buy one from Aliexpress
FUCKING SCORE
T60p arrived today, and it's more than I could've ever asked for.
>1600x1200 Flexview
>pristine keyboard
>Panasonic 9-cell with only 34 cycles
>ultrabay DVD burner
>near-perfect physical condition
>90w charger included
>only cost $95
my dick is so fucking hard right now
>>54893489
you talking ultrabay?
I have this one (or at least one bought from the same seller.) and it works fine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Second-SATA-hard-drive-Adapter-Bay-Caddy-LENOVO-Thinkpad-T420-T520-W520-12-7mm-/111654633191?hash=item19ff227ee7:g:R70AAOSwPgxVOtUg
>>54893525
How does it perform? I'd like something from that gen but afraid I couldn't use it for much because of the speed.
What kinda price should I be looking for when shopping around on EBay for a HDD-less X220?
>>54893569
The performance is about what you might expect out of a ten-year-old 32-bit laptop. They're basically only useful as T601F fodder at this point, and that's why I bought this one. The -p suffix guaranteed me a Flexview screen, and from what the seller told me it had a very high chance of being 1600x1200, so I took the chance and god damn did it pay off. I already had my T601F fully assembled, but the screen was a cheap compatible TN and the frame was beat to hell. Now my Thinkpad is truly top-tier.
>>54885875
>widescreen
disgusting
When I start up my X201T, it has a Intel Network boot thing
I'm wondering how I can stop it doing this to make it boot up quicker
>>54893777
Disable PXE in your BIOS
>>54893777
Go into the bios, either change the boot order or disable boot from LAN / PXE.
>>54893800
>>54893813
thanks
I was about to replace the keyboard on my X200 when I noticed it was damp inside. Maybe I dumped some fluid in there weeks ago, maybe it was the glass cleaner I wiped down the old keyboard with, no idea. Anways, some of that stuff is under the clear plastic mat that is glued(?) to the mainboard, how can I fix this shit
guys. I need some help. I have an x230t. I mainly run a linux distro but I dual boot windows for certain programs. The touch screen and stylus work 100% on linux (running Arch atm). It's not working at all for windows (running windows 8.1). It was working when I first installed windows but after doing a few system updates, it just stopped working. There aren't any drivers on lenovo's website for windows 8.1 and the drivers for windows 7 won't install. Any suggestions?
I think my x201 died.
Was using it, the display went all grainy (like white noise) and then it turned off. I try turning it on, it does for 2 seconds, fan shuts down and only the power/battery icons stay on. Black screen.
Thankfully boards are ~$40 on Ebay, and the whole laptop ~$120
Still, feels bad.
>>54894007
Maybe try installing wacom's drivers for the screen? It does use a wacom digitizer, so it might work.
>>54894016
You could have had a fagbook, replacement boards are what, over $500?
Revive that cutie
Does the x230 accept DDR4?
>>54893930
ok part of what looks like liquid in that picture is actally the glue
I slowly pried off the mat, it broke into two, wiped it down with a bit of alcohol, it all still werks
new keyboard feels nice
>>54894111
I tried finding them but idk the name. I prob have to just get the generic one if there isn't one for my specific computer.
>>54894177
nope
I got a new T440p coming from the T420. Is it possible to turn on the notebook with the fingerprint reader like I used to do woth the T420?
>>54885827
Are there any aftermarket screens for the X220 to increase the resolution?
Same for T420
>>54894259
Yes, but the X220 mod is out of your league and the T420 mod doesn't work properly.
Good to have my X301 and T420 back up and running. New dock is GOAT
>>54894007
I sometimes use driverscloud when I can't find which driver I need for windows, you might want to try it.
>>54894299
Out of my league why
>>54894568
Nobody in the Western world has even done it themselves. Only one madman chink, and he didn't tell his chink friends everything he did.
To upgrade or not to upgrade to a Thinkpad? Saw one at a Best Buy (exclusive model) that had all the features I need and the Nvidia 940M seemed to provide superior graphical performance over Intel HD graphics and I think the Skylake CPU should provide superior battery life to Ivy Bridge.
Currently have this: https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/ASUS_TAICHI_21/
Should I upgrade to this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-2-in-1-14-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/4456400.p?skuId=4456400
I think i'm in love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcoPj6ILYA
>>54894644
A Yoga Thinkpad is not a Thinkpad
>>54894647
>tfw just installed my UXGA Flexview in my T601F and it really is heaven
Keep the faith, brothers. We're all gonna make it some day.
Hi /tpg/
I need to get a hardware serial port so I can use it for some legacy serial stuff, USB to serial don't seem to work for this.
Is there a MAX3243 chip on the X220 that I could use for a serial port with a bit of soldering?
Thanks.
>>54894736
I'm not certain but there should be a docking station you can get that would have a serial port.
>>54894568
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43600546862&toSite=main
Go see if you can get one.
Damn, I wish they would let us in on this already..
What's the difference between the i5 vpro and a normal i5? My x230 is a i5 v-pro and I'm wondering if all x230 i5 are v-pro or not and what good about it.
>>54894644
Literally just buy either a T420 or an X220 and drop a 250gb or 500gb SSD in it, maybe upgrade the ram to 8gb if you want to run Windows and then enjoy your amazing laptop.
>>54894821
vpro is some enterprise management shit. nothing that actually helps or hurts performance.
Question about IPS Flexview
Is it a noticeable upgrade over the standard screen? my T60 is dim even my old 600e is brighter. swapping screens is no big deal for me I work in a shop
![Laughing-Then-Crying-Meme-09[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IjALZbY.jpg "Laughing-Then-Crying-Meme-09[1].jpg")
>>54894726
>tfw you will probably never own the perfect T601F with the UXGA Flexview screen, NMB keyboard and post 08/08 non-timebomb nvidia chip
>>54895110
Don't worry, friend. In less than four years we will have another Great Recession, the normie tech bubble will burst, and IBM will Make Thinkpads Great Again.
>>54895100
It is such an upgrade. I can't believe how long I used this laptop without it. Getting away from TN is far more important than the resolution, so settle for 1400x1050 if you have to.
>>54895110
Patience, my friend. There's a reasonably-priced UXGA T60p out there for all of us. Advanced Dock is better than Nvidia housefires, anyway.
http://blog.lenovo.com/tag/retro+thinkpad
have you guys had a look at this?
>>54895175
>IBM
More like Indian Business Machines.
Why would you want to buy hardware designed by people who can't even poo in the loo?
>>54895100
>my T60 is dim even my old 600e is brighter
IPS is dimmer than TN. Any CCFL screen is going to be on the backlight's last legs unless the machine practically never got used.
>>54895329
vapourware publicity stunt. At least the X62 actually exists.
>>54895342
this is /tpg/, get your /pol/ shitposting out of here
>>54895510
what mobo is it using?
just bought a T420 and a 9 cell battery
very excite
What would happen if I put my old x220 hard drive in my new t420? Would it boot?
>>54885827
He I just got a free Express Card to PCIE converter, can anyone reccomend what I should do with it? Maybe a cheap external gpu or sound card for my x200?
>>54895528
Get back to work Pajeet.
>>54896241
Should work fine. You might have to reinstall GPU drivers if your T420 has the Nvidia card. Otherwise pretty much everything is the same between the two.
just got my x220 today and so far its pretty awesome
The fingerprint reader on my X201 has a green light that stays on even when it's off.
I turned off Predesktop Authentication in the BIOS but it's still there
how do I turn it off?
>>54896429
I hope those two women in the middle are ok
>>54896429
>>54897045
>tricked out x260 is one business day away from my house
>its friday
FUGGGGG
guys should i get an x220 for $250 or an x230 for $330? they both have ips screens and 8gb ram. the x230 comes with a 128gb ssd while the x220 comes with a 320gb mechanical hard drive
Just bought a T430 i5 3320M for 170 off ebay
It only has 6gb or ram, and 320 gb HD
Was it worth?
>>54897423
SSD is always a plus. Do you have any experience with the pre X30-keyboards? That's pretty much the only difference
>>54897484
Yes, i have had an x61, x201, and a t420. I haven't tried the new keyboards at all. are they that much worse?
>>54897524
They're not bad per se, but since you've used the glorious X61 and X301 then you'll probably hate it..
The X220 is a great machine, I'm really enjoying mine. I used to have a T60, now a have an X220 and the tablet version.
>>54895329
yeah. i voted in the polls they did over it like a year ago.
Quick, and might be a very stupid question. What sound drivers do the X220 use? Realtek or Intel?
My T420 just arrived, is this a decent battery status?
Also it looks really good for $140. Everything looks almost new except the clit, is has an 1600x900 screen, 6Gb RAM, i5 2520, 160Gb HDD. I only jewed out on the HDD because I'll replace it with my SSD as soon as I buy a better one.
>>54898194
It ain't looking good.
>>54890720
>90+ degrees
I read Lenovo did put a improved cooling system and reduced the TDP to avoid overheating but it still does. Even a T430(iGPU model) with a smaller cooler and vents overheats less(no more than 86C at full load).
>>54898194
Try doing a battery calibration routine. Do it during the night and DON'T use the computer otherwise the capacity calculations may be wrong.
>>54897446
screen? GPU?
>>54894007
Try Lenovo System Update
It "just werks" with ThinkPads
i wanna upgrade my x230's tn panel to an ips one. anyone know what screen models will fit and if it's a drop in replacement
>>54898670
Integrated Intel HD Graphics
14" LED-Backlit Display
How come no one mentions Lenovo uses fucking DRM batteries and then gouges you out the dick to buy replacements after yours hits it's programmed date to stop working.
Fuck Lenovo that was the first and last Thinkpad I bought.
>>54898847
Started with the **30, incidentally when the chiclet plague came in. That's your fault
>>54898746
I mean resolution, 1366x768 or 1600x900
anyway a good purchase.
>>54898719
Download the FRU list and find the IPS panel part number. I did it for you
>>54894736
>I need to get a hardware serial port so I can use it for some legacy serial stuff, USB to serial don't seem to work for this.
Have you used a real deal FTDI usb-serial? I interface with a lot of serial ports and the FTDI cable always works. You may need a terminal, rollover or crossover adapter too. Don't forget that.
>>54894821
>What's the difference between the i5 vpro and a normal i5? My x230 is a i5 v-pro and I'm wondering if all x230 i5 are v-pro or not and what good about it.
Vpro is like a kvm/ipmi interface for desktops. Provides info, allows config changes, and gives hardware remote access
>>54899203
and of course, it can be disabled or permanently killed via a BIOS switch
>>54885827
How did I do?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T430-2349-6C2-F9WFG-14-8gb-320gb-CORE-i5-WEBCAM-DVDROM-AUT-166-/351742185086
>>54901499
Good deal, Mr dubs.
What's the consensus on IdeaPads? They obviously don't have the trackpad. I assume they're shit because I don't see anything about them on the guide.
I have an IdeaPad P500 I can get for less than $100 with 1TB HDD, 8GB RAM, and Intel i7 3520M @ 2.90GHz. Also, the battery is shitted out and it doesn't have an OS.
Should I get it?
>>54901722
Don't even fucking think about it. Worst laptop purchase of my life.
>>54901741
Thanks for fast reply. Will not get.
>>54901499
Not bad except for the dried cum in the left speaker grill
>>54901880
I'd buy a hot glued T430 for 179 bux, that's a beast of a laptop.
Bought a P40 Yoga, what should I expect?
>>54885827
is 768p good enough for programming /g/? trying to decide if i want an x220 or t530. i'd prefer something smaller and lighter but idk if 768p will be enough workspace. i can get a t530 with a 1080p screen but it might be too big and heavy. what do
>>54902769
Get a 1080 screen, you wont be disappointed, I use my 768p for Sony Vegas and it's garbage.
What's the smallest ThinkPad you can buy?
>>54887467
Damn, I'm jelly. Mine comes in a week. Fucker got delayed
>>54901499
My laptopt just arrived from the same seller. I'm >>54898194 and it's definitely a good deal. Mine looks great, battery is probably the only thing that you can tell it was really used.
How do I search for replacement clits for my T420? I want to get one of those cheap 2 or 3 of each type from aliexpress.
>>54903398
just type in trackpoint cap on ebay
how is the build quality of the t450? is it a piece of shit compared to the old ones?
I just bought an IBM T42 on eBay for $28. Planning on making a little project out of upgrading and fully refurbishing the thing. Anybody have any knowledge regarding the replacement of GPUs in a T42? Also can anyone recommend any good PATA HDDs or SSDs to use with this thing?
which thinkpad has unsoldered cpu and integrated graphics?
>>54903789
T420 with only the intel HD3000 is a good one.
>>54903806
got myself x220 not so long ago and i love it but i wonder about durability of its parts, i prefer a smaller x220 but is t420 better in that matter?
>>54903852
T420 is basically the same materials, just 14 inches and it can have a 1600x900 res.
>>54903867
x220 has soldered cpu as far as i know
>>54903888
The X220 is soldered, stay away from the T420s because that's soldered too.
Does x230i have soldered CPU? Wouldn't mind upgrading to an i5.
Just decked out my mint condition i7 X220 - 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, newer (SL)(T1) revison IPS panel and new 9 cell battery. Feels good man.
>>54904331
how much did you spend?
>>54904372
I bought the i7 X220 in like-new condition for 210€, and all the upgrades cost me approx. 320€. A bit on the expensive side for a machine of this age, but it feels like new, the keyboard btfo's everything save for desktop mechanical keyboards and the system is blazing fast.
i want a good cheap laptop with a 1080p ips screen. needs to be light and portable (nothing over ~14".
so far i'm looking at getting a t450 with a broken screen and swapping in a 1080p ips screen, or getting a t440p and replacing both the screen and trackpoint. how does the build quality of these 2 units compare to each other and to the older thinkpads? am i better off looking at a completely different line? ideally i want to keep the total price under ~$350-400
>>54889088
this windows button needs a linux sticker
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/smm_attack
>2016
>being a 16:9 cuck
is it possible to get a thinkpad keyboard to work on a desktop pc?
I assume you'd need a converter from that weird mouse/keyboard plug to PS/2
>>54904331
That's awesome.
I got a free/stolen x230i. It's i3-3110m with 4GB RAM and I put in a SSD, although a bigger one would be good. Seems to run really quick for general browsing etc.
Where does a Britfag get a good 9 cell battery from? Is it physically any bigger than the standard battery?
Are there any compatible (read: cheap chinese fakes) of the 28++ slice? Legit Lelnovo ones are going for £150.
Reminder, thinkpad is literally botnet.
>>54906440
Wtf is this nerd shit I'm looking at?
>>54906458
Thinkpads have hardware backdoors. This is a code being executed.
>>54906440
>>54906481
see
>>54905096
patches there, anything before X220 and T420 unaffected, T520 and W520 also unaffected
manlets, when will they learn
>>54906481
Oh shit.
>>54906440
How can people tell this is botnet from the machine code?
>>54906649
some kid posted that image on twitter and said he found a backdoor in thinkpads
so it's obviously true
What do you lads think of TPs with AMD processors, as opposed to Intel ones? Are they good for what they are? Or absolutely avoid-tier?
>>54906758
This is probable.
Though it could be the chinese dropping in a backdoor so they can own you if they ever have conflict with the US.
Just a hypothesis...
>>54906871
They're garbage. Not the fault of the AMD hardware necessarily, just that Lelnovo (and basically every laptop manufacturer) only uses AMD in their cheapest pieces of shit.
>>54906921
I was of the belief that ThinkPads were equipped with exclusively Intel hardware.
Which models would even have lower-tier processors?
BACKDOORED
>>54907052
The x130/140 series
>>54907052
Edge series, mainly. X1**e also have AMD processors, although some have options for i3s. Thinkpads actually worth owning are exclusively Intel.
Asked about this a while ago and someone recommended the t420
I'm looking to have a cheap laptop and all that i require is it being able to play animu and browse the Internet. Dont need to video edit or anything. Is t420 a good choice or is there one better suited for me?
>>54907105
My buddy bought a 140 (new at retail, I might add) and absolutely loves it. He added an SSD and 8GB of RAM, although it's mostly used to take notes in class and play League in-between.
I dunno, I think the little "education" models are charming machines for what they are, but there's definitely better options out there. I guess it just depends on how you make use of it.
>takes forever to format new SSD
>it eventually formats after 3 restarts
>go to clone it
>gets 3% of the way through
>fails
>errors suggest that it's the SSD enclosure
>try out my new ram
>boot loop
>memtest freezes
fuck sake
>>54903747
GPU is soldered to the motherboard
Any SSD will make them fly I have an 80gb Intel SSD in my T60 it loads up faster than my dual Xeon workstation
>>54906871
I actually have one of these. I have an Edge E545, the build quality a shit but it has balls. I upgraded it to the A10 2.5 quad, with 16gb RAM. The APU integrated graphics aren't too horrible, it's an HD8650G and it will play most games from the Counter-Strike Source era at max res with all the eye candy on.
Battery life isn't too bad, but really the whole reason to get a Thinkpad is build quality and mine couldn't handle a 3 foot drop and the whole bottom of it is destroyed.
>>54907258
>Education Series.
>Literally babby's first ThinkPad.
Although I'll admit they have some decent hardware for what they are.
Question - where can I get the plastic pieces for DVD caddy?
>>54907804
When you remove your current optical drive from your laptop, you can remove those from the original drive and put them on your caddy.
Otherwise, I don't think you will be able to buy them.
>>54907831
Well, fuck. Figured I can remove them from the original drive but I need spares. What's the point of swap drive with only one caddy to swap?
Also I think they come with original Lenovo drive caddy, but those costs 4 times as much as the no-brand caddy, so screw that.
So it's either getting hold of defunct Thinkpad and salvaging them or somehow crafting my own...
>>54908064
Are you adding them to a hdd caddy? most of the chink ones have them molded on.
>>54908089
Yeah, they are attached (screwed) on the caddy, and the spare caddy has screw slots in the same place.
>>54908185
I meant as in part of the plastic, not sperate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Second-SATA-hard-drive-Adapter-Bay-Caddy-LENOVO-Thinkpad-T420-T520-W520-12-7mm-/111654633191?hash=item19ff227ee7:g:R70AAOSwPgxVOtUg
>>54908064
>I think they come with original Lenovo drive caddy, but those costs 4 times as much as the no-brand caddy
There are also cheap no-brand Thinkpad compatible caddies.
>>54897023
Change it within Lenovo's fingerprint software
>>54907235
Get a T520, its screen is infinitely better than the T420.
Anyone got experience with Dell E7440? I need a laptop for programming (good keyboard, clit, matte screen, good build quality, light, etc). I haven't owned any latitudes so it'd be nice to know how they compare to thinkpads and elitebooks
>>54905871
just buy it from ebay/amazon. Note that you have to buy original lenovo battery, **30 series Thinkpads doesn't support 3rd party batteries. And yeah, they do stick out a bit.
>Unauthorized wireless card...
Has anyone had any luck with setting a bit in CMOS to disable the wireless card check? Specifically, in a T520 running Mint?
>tfw still fucking about with egpu issues after 2 months of failure to fix problems only like 2 other people in the world have and nobody has an answer to
Still not stuck though, still got things I can try, but fuck I seem to be the unluckiest eGPU user ever
>>54894761
Anyone on /tpg/ got one of these?
Any english forums with people talking about their experiences with them, how it affects battery life, english guide etc?
I'm tempted
>>54887923
they fucking glued bubble wrap?
Demand a partial refund for that level of stupidity
>>54910472
iirc you need to reflash the bios
>>54895329
it's not happening
even if it were to happen they would be stupidly expensive due to the extra effort to source and manufacture what would now be considered non standard components
>>54895510
was there any news on when it's going to ship?
>>54910676
I think 16:10 won the screen aspect ratio
They even mentioned in the aspect ratio survey that 4:3 would be very expensive because no one makes them any more
>>54910712
Yeah, 16:10 won but they still would have trouble putting this laptop together and selling enough units to make it profitable.
They make "business" laptops that follow the same formula. I doubt they would attract the enterprise crowd with large contract selling to make a good enough return on the retro. It's been a very long time since any updates were posted so it was likely a PR/marketing thing.
>>54910790
They could just do a limited run of like 200 laptops and charge $5k for each one
>>54910672
I'm aware of this route but am hesitant as the CMOS solution seems simpler and I can read the C code and actually understand what it's doing.
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/linux.kernel/eF46TjUpQdA
>>54910898
doubt they would go through the effort for that. Besides, there were way more people that showed an interest in the product so making it a limited edition isn't exactly the best option. It takes a lot of money to get the supply chain ready for a product that deviates from what the company normally produces.
The days of good hardware quality with secure modable firmware are over.
>>54905096
is it possible to install coreboot without a hardware flasher now?
>>54887624
thinkpad 13
What's the best wireless card I could put in a T601F? I have Middleton's BIOS flashed, so the whitelist isn't a concern.
should i get an x240 and put in an 1080p screen and replace the trackpad or are the newer thinkpad models not worth getting?
What would give me the longest battery life on my x220 with a new 6 cell
Osx
Win10
Arch or equivalent low resource using distribution
Only gonna write and browse the Internet
Whats the best hard drive brand for t420?
>>54913771
No need for any autist distros, I get crazy battery life just out of Xubuntu. 9 hours or close to it on my 9cell. Install TLP and it just werks.
>>54913908
An SSD.
>>54914677
I already have an ssd in it. Want a hard drive to replace the optical drive.
>>54913908
Get a WD Scorpio Black, that's a beast of a drive.
>>54913908
Apparently HGST is the most reliable.
>tfw msata and dual hdds
Thoughts on the L430? I got one for $70
>>54914860
It's not /tpg/-approved, but you can't really complain about that price for an Ivy Bridge laptop.
Which one is better; the t460p or the p50 if they have similar specs (everything is the same except the P50 has a quadro M2000 and the t460 has a geforce 940mx?
Although I'm pretty sure the p50 is superior due to the way it's designed, is there anything that the t460p would be better at?
>>54914757
Thank you
>>54914941
Go for the P50, the T460p is an overheating shitpile.
>>54914941
p50 has Thunderbolt 3 man.
>>54885827
Anyone have an OPAL SED SSD?
I'm looking at a thinkpad, and the guy is telling me the SSD is OPAL compliant.
Not sure how to check that, or turn it on if it is
Anyone know how?
>>54915366
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opal_Storage_Specification
>>54915366
https://github.com/Drive-Trust-Alliance/sedutil
> vi /etc/hostname
> still haven't decided on a name 5 minutes later
What do I name my new memepad T420 /g/?
