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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Best source for t420 new keyboards besides ebay? Budget wise
What's everyone got in the mail?
>>54844708
T60p with what is most likely 1600x1200 Flexview. Snagged it for $95, so even if it's only 1400x1050 it's still a fair deal.
First for Wangblows will never know Openbox
Once again ill just put all my shit in one post:
>X41 with Windows 10 on it
How do i get it back to xp, basically
Ive ordered a recovery disk for XP and i have XP keys, do i have to use the key on the laptop or can i use any XP key i have around?
Is there a specific build ill need for a touchscreen or can i install that stuff after regular XP?
IF all else fails, ill be installing Mint on it, in which case, what DE works best with a touchscreen, and how do i get a touchscreen to work with Mint?
>T42 and R52
I want to get an SSD for both, ive already got two Pentium M 2ghz cpus and 2gb of ram in each, where can i find 40gb+ or 32gb pata IDE SSD's for fairly cheap?
>R30
Hard drive is near death, anything i can do about it to keep it alive for a little while longer? Or is it normal for a 4gb hard drive from the early 2000's to sound like a servo motor on fire?
Thanks /tpg/ for your help with my various issues over the past few months since i first got the T42 at your suggestion.
>>54844727
>1600x1200 Flexview
Here's hoping, mang, that'd be bitchin.
Anyone have a link for a cheap variety pack of clits?
I went to an office in my Uni and the desk clerk had a T400 with pristine condition. I felt happy such a glorious machine is still truckin'
>>54844750
>X41
You can use any key, there not much point in activating XP nowadays
>T42 and R52
AliExpress
>R30
It's normal
To the macfag who wanted to switch out to a thinkpad, don't. You'll regret it
>>54844820
cool, just wondering about the recovery of XP, if windows 10 is currently on it, and i only have a recovery copy, would i need the full install disk to actually install XP? or can it be done with just the recovery copy
How do you niggers use the vaginal mouse in the center of the keyboard?
Example: right hand, middle finger, palm hovering over keyboard/mousepad
I never use mine but know others do.
>>54845086
pointer finger, and i click with my thumb
My x200's fan is running at 4200RPM pretty much all day.
Maybe it's because I always have chrome open.
The computer is also plenty warm, so I'd rather not override the auto fan setting.
Is there any way to throttle my CPU to lessen heat output?
I tried adjusting the CPU governor settings in the bios and it doesn't affect anything.
I'm on debian, btw.
>>54845086
>I never use mine
absolutely disgusting.
Just try it, put your index or middle finger on it and use your thumb for the buttons. It might take like 1 or 2 days to get used to but after that you'll be questioning how did you do your computing without one.
My favorite part of it is the super responsive scrolling
>was planning to get a Latitude E7470 for university
>out of stock at the moment
>randomly notice a really good Macbook Air offer
I'm so tempted, help
Is ~150$ for a x220 with i5 2520m, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, and not IPS a good deal?
>>54845240
Macbook air is a cool notebook, no shame in buying one, I actually prefer it over the carbon when it comes to thin ass laptops.
>>54845273
>not IPS
Unless you feel comfortable adding your own, spring for the IPS.
Good deal though IMO. These new old models are getting cheap as ball sweat.
Bought a 12.5" ThinkPad Yoga. Set my robot dick e-cigarette on it. Leaked juice all down the keyboard, seeped into the charging port. No longer charges. Stripped the fuck out of a screw trying to open it up. Said fuck it, bought a new (used) 15 incher Yoga because I'm not poor.
How does this make you feel?
Also why does /g/ tend to hate the ThinkPad Yoga line?
>>54845412
Did you try the rubber band trick to get the stripped one out?
>>54845353
I think I can add it myself later. I probably will end up buying more RAM or an SSD before the screen though IDK
>>54845412
The Yoga line isn't utilitarian.
>>54845437
Yes. No dice. At some point I may buy a screw extractor kit and just take a drill to it.
Does anyone else's trackpoint hurt their wrist? If I use mine for like an hour or so I notice my wrist starts to hurt...
>>54846029
My T60's palmrest is nice and long, so it's comfy all the time. Might be a more common problem among X220 manlets.
Is there anywhere other than ebay/CL equivalents to look for old laptops?
I'm trying to find a T60 or X60 for Libreboot, but they don't seem to exist in Australia anymore.
>>54846184
I'm on a T61 right now. I just ordered an x220 though...
>>54846280
pawn shops, garage sales, flea markets, computer surplus stores
YEAH!
Swapped the system board back out to the old one, but overall netted a better LCD and CPU.
Worth it I guess.
Still may upgrade the system board and LCD hinges at some point.
>>54846960
>XP
All of my why.
>>54847137
Yonah isn't even 64 bit or good enough for modern use, XP is faster too.
>>54847137
To prove the comp works thoroughly after I fucked it up in an environment in which I'm comfortable.
>bought t530
>windows 8
lol
Is paying more for an X220 with i7 worth it or should I go with the i5-2520m? I have a pretty good deal for a one with the i5 but I wanna know what difference in the real world those two have.
>tfw IBM Thinkpad logo too small for T420
Fuck
Is there anyway I can change my latitude e6430 screen? I really hate the TN panel
>>54847748
I believe the i7 has USB 3(x1). That's it.
Wiki has specifics.
x220 already gets pretty hot, so I personally wouldn't want a sandy vagina i7 in it. The 2520m and the one above would be fine for a laptop in today's day and age.
>>54848067
Yeah I know about the USB 3.0, however I could make the expresscard an USB 3.0 port. I just care about the performance of the two processors because I plan on having it (x220) for a long time. I guess i'm really just debating with myself and I should probably stop being an autist and just buy the 2520m, since I only plan on using it for work / university and I have a desktop for gaming anyway.
>>54848213
If you want the best out of it, pay the extra and go all the way while you're here doing it.
Don't regret later when you feel sluggish.
Godspeed fag.
>>54848213
Especially since 220 euros for i5-2520m, 8gb ram and 160gb ssd is a good deal where I live (I'm not gonna pay 50$+ for shipping). Still have to check it's condition though.
Where is the best place to buy new batteries for the X220?
Thoughts on the t460p? Thinking of picking one up
I'm going to upgrade my T420 1366x768 screen to a 1600x900 one. Any suggestions? According to some googling the N140FGE-LA2 model was my best option.
>>54847880
Fucking this
Is buying an ultrabase for the X230T worth it?
>>54849393
You can swap the first gen X1 screen which has much better gamut and contrast, but requires a mod that cab be frustrating to perform
Check the Thinkwiki
>>54844708
a w520 keyboard for my w530. can't stand the chiclet desu
Is the Thinkpad 13 the new thing?
>easily replaceable ram, ssd, keyboard, battery
Is the X220 with i5-2520M capable of playing >50mbps VC-1 videos?
If a x220 is missing the leds i can fix it right?
Just wonna ask is x230 good ? For now i will use it for programming and basic old gayms /also gonna use lonix OS / X -- d
>>54851346
Thanks Prajeet, your continued support has been noted. 100 INR has been deposited into your account.
Which model should I buy (Thinkpad series) if I want:
>1920x1080 screen
>built-in SSD (or a thinkpad I could easily get a SSD in)
>Trackpoint
>Comfy keyboard
>Can play games on ultra low settings (think cs:go, bannerlord)
>Long battery life (9 cell or more?)
Of course I'll buy it second hand, and my budget is ~700 euros (750 euros is my max).
Is it possible? Does anyone have any suggestions? If it really is a problem, I can up my budget, but I hope you have some suggestions for 750 max.
Any help is much appreciated, I'm not particularly tech-savvy like most of you /g/entoomen, so buying a shitty laptop and changing the screen etc. isn't an option.
Thank you.
>>54852140
T520.
>can be upgraded to decent 1080p display (still TN, but it's a good TN)
>supports mSATA SSDs so you can have SSD+HDD like a desktop
>has trackpoint
>has good keyboard (x30 series is where the keyboard started going to shit)
>long battery life if you get a superior larger battery
cs:go and bannerlord might be a stretch though. Might have to step up to the T530/540 which are far more expensive and less common for that.
>>54852145
the fuck is wrong with your hands you mutant ass lookin nigga
BACKDOOR FOUND ON THINKPADS
thinkfags irredeemably, ultimately, assblastedly
B T F O
T
F
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Macbook wins again
>>54845086
middle finger on right button, index on pointer, thumb on left button. sort of like naturally placing your hand on a desk
>>54852140
>budget is ~700 euros (750 euros is my max)
Look for a W series, W540 or W550s might be possible at that price point. Though if you go for a *40, make sure to factor in about 20 EUR to upgrade the trackpad to a usable one from the *50 series.
Yes, even if you don't intend to ever use the trackpad.
>>54844708
T420.
It's missing the hdd cover, but other than that it's in pretty good shape.
I'm going to use it as my AD/VM server so that I only have two full laptops and an odroid for my whole server setup
>>54848213
all of those express cards are shit, and you can't boot off of them anyways.
but the performance difference will be unnoticeable unless you push your cpu to 90%+ a lot.
>buy X201t
>Seller says it doesn't have a stylus
>Buy one for £8 on eBay
>X201t comes today
>Includes stylus
>>54844708
x260 i7, 1080p fhd, 8gb ddr4, 128gb ssd, non backlit keyboard
...4 more days...
Also posting it here:
Anon who bought a DP-hdmi adapter in /csg/ thread for his T430 - please post link.
I want to get one for my X230 and i'm aware that some of these are incompatible, so I want to get one that 100% works
>>54844708
Thinkpad stylus
I'm >>54853554
I might order an SSD and 8GB of RAM for it despite it being my tertiary, quaternary or quinary computer depending on how you look at it
>>54844708
a replacement power jak for my X230.
Still waiting for mSATA ssd so I can install both at once
>>54852140
Csgo uses a lot of resources to run at a decent framerate (because of shitty shaders and effects you're not allowed to turn off thanks valve)
The most powerful thinkpad that still uses comfy keyboard is the w520 I believe
>>54853052
could this be used to flash coreboot without a hardware flasher
>be part of student theatre thing
>second in command when it comes to administration
>own three laptops (one MBA 2013, x201 and x61)
>first in command asks to borrow my x201
>fine.jpg
>we are done with our production
>a month passes
>i write him on facebook that im going to need it back
>no answer
>write him again two weeks later
>he "forgot to answer"
>finally getting it back today
Missed my comfy-tier laptop. Never borrowing it to anyone else again.
>>54854398
Borrowing is being on the receiving end
Lending is being on the giving end
>>54854554
My bad. English isn't my first language
https://twitter.com/d_olex/status/737936305514893313
posting here instead of a new thread because I don't wanna draw a bunch of attention to it and get people shitposting
>>54845086
usually middle finger on nub and thumb is often scrolling but can easily move to left or right click
>>54854562
Its a common mistake ESL speakers make
>>54853052
>https://twitter.com/d_olex/status/737936305514893313
Oh, a T450. That's not a real Thinkpad.
>>54853052
>SmmExpl.efi
>.efi
Wow it's almost like UEFI was designed to be botnet from the beginning
hello /g/entoo men,
I have a t420s, the locking mechanism for keeping the chinkpad closed is broke, it still locks in place and all but it doesnt spring back as it should, what may have caused this and how do I fix? pls halp
What is the best way to cover up the Lenovo badge?
>>54844708
My old MacBook Pro that I sold so I can buy a slightly less old ThinkPad.
>>54854682
It affects older machines as well dumbass.
been thinking about getting one of these for vacations around the country. they obviously dont look pretty, but does something like a T420 run well? From my little research it's an older laptop and I was wondering if it stills holds up for daily use?
>>54855327
yes it holds perfectly for daily use I am using it for Uni
I have T60 with shitty resolution screen, it was a present. Can I change that shitty screen for higher resolution one?
How quiet are the speakers in the X220?
>>54855323
Like?
[citation needed]
>>54855498
I am not a huge fan of the x220 overall but the speakers are not a problem
Where can I get a Windows 7 Pro ISO?
The windows website says I need to contact the manufacturer
>mfw I will never own a x20 to complete my collection
![xiaomi_mi_usb_fan[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wdtvRbm.jpg "xiaomi_mi_usb_fan[1].jpg")
can one of those usb fans be pointed towards my t410 to help moving the air ? It has some heat problems when docked. And none when undocked
I mean, would they have enough air flow ?
>>54844655
X220 i3 for 150 jewro with 120GB SSD an ok deal?
>9 cell for my X220 arrived
>charged it to 100% (it came with 68%)
>five hours of light use later it's at 50%
holy shit, this is the greatest thing that ever happened to my thinkpad
Should eBay sellers selling many ThinkPad using stock photos be trusted?
>>54845086
Personally I use it something like this.
>>54857039
Only if they are selling in bulk and have almost 100% rating with lots of reviews.
>>54855849
Doesnt really help my t420.
Got a T61 but I cannot find the battery for it. I tried amazon but they sent the wrong one. Anyone mind pointing me to the right battery?
>>54855849
>has some heat problems when docked
Same with mines. Couldn't they've made the power and eject button on the right or back side so not to block the fucking vents?
Which thinkpad models are 17"?
Would you recommend a specific one?
>>54857039
It depends
if they're Buy it Now auctions by a business seller with lots of good ratings, it's fine
if it's by joe2000 with 8 feedback, I wouldn't go for it
x230 with
i5-3320M
8gb
1366x768 IPS
6c Li-Ion
320gb hdd
warranty till october
is 300€ good price?
Is there a modern alternative to the 365x? I've read the guides and the closest thing I can find is the x220, but it's still not exactly what I want. Should I buy a for-parts 365x off ebay and spend the time gutting it and turning it into a rpi machine?
For more reference, I'm running a latitude 2120 right now, and it's just barely fast enough for my daily tasks, so actually moving to a 365x would be murder.
>>54855854
I don't know man, I just got an i5-2540M, 8gb ram and 160GB SSD for 220 euros. Literally not a scratch on this thing, it's like no one ever used it before plus they gave me a new original 9-cell battery. I guess it depends on where you're from.
>>54857453
that pic holy shit
Not sure if I should start a new thread, but there's a general, so I'll put this here.
This looks, on the face of it, like potential Big Trouble.
https://twitter.com/d_olex/status/737936305514893313
>I found very interesting 0day vulnerability (looks rather like backdoor) in ThinnkPads, arbitrary SMM code execution
>It also leads to flash write protection bypass, SecureBoot bypass, Windows VSM bypass and other bad things. Details soon :)
Any thoughts?
>>54857126
>>54857247
well lads,
let's find a solution!
normal fan modded to 5v/usb is just too weak
but i think that one of those usb fans plugged in the usb ports on the rear and bent pointing forwards past the exhaust grill would help
Sup /tpg/, I helped my grandfather clean out some dead Croat's trailer a couple days ago and got a free T400 from the place. I like the trackpoint, but the cap kinda hurts to use for a while. I want to replace the cap anyways, would any of you guys have any suggestions?
>>54857640
On the off chance you're ignorant and this isn't bait, welcome to lenovo's "thinkpad."
>>54857683
>you will never have a chinkpad haunted by the spirit of a kebab removing croat
>>54857640
>>54857753
Hes already in an EFI shell he doesn't need to bypass secure boot lmao..
>>54857640
where is that efi shell on x220?
>>54857790
I knabbed a CRT from the place, too. Been playing Resident Evil on it.
>>54857753
Well, we'll need to wait for specific details to see if this originates from earlier code. Agreed that Lenovo have a spotty reputation when it comes to software/firmware security, to say the very least (Superfish springs immediately to mind).
>>54857834
You're correct about Secure Boot. But SMM is a slightly bigger deal than that. You could potentially wipe the firmware from there, permanently brick the machine; permanently (and invisibly) backdoor the machine; even extract TPM keys because of the direct SPI Flash access.
>>54858016
have you heard any faint whispers about ottomans while you play?
>>54844708
x220 should be here today
>>54858060
Only when I'm playing Vicky II
Just bought a P50s, and considering picking up a T430. Got some grand plans for it.
Base T430 with Fingerprint Reader and NVS5400GPU. ~$350. Other specs don't matter.
+ 16GB RAM (+$50)
+ 256GB 850 PRO SSD (+$130)
+ T420 Keyboard/Palmrest (+$50)
+ i7-3820QM / New Thermal Paste (+$250)
+ New 9 Cell Rear / 9 Cell Slice Battery (+$200)
+ 1080p Display once China gets its shit together and fixes the flickering problem (+$200?)
Total I think I'll be looking at ~$1200 ($1k without new screen -- ~$850-$900 if I'm real patient with parts), but I think I'll have one of the highest spec'd laptops possible with one of the highest battery life.
The reason I want the T430 is because out of all the ThinkPad models only the xx10/xx20/xx30 supported the maximum battery capacity of 188Wh, and the T430 (due to size/screen) goes over 20 hours of real life usage. I think with all the upgrades I'll get 8+ hours out of it - more if I throttle down the CPU and disable the GPU. The high end MQ CPU is only +10W TDP but has nearly double the performance and will still outperform anything but the best HQ processors out today.
>>54858366
Oh, and if I decide I don't want to set my thighs on fire I can go with the i7-3632QM and get a 50% performance boost instead of ~100% as well as keep it at 35W TDP.
>>54844708
Just bought my first thinkpad, an x220. Pretty excited. Should be here by Saturday.
>>54857379
It is a big seller with 99.8% with thousands of ratings. I probably should just do it but I get nervous not being able to actually see the specific unit I'm buying.
>>54858043
Who gives a shit you have write access to the EFI variables you could brick any laptop from EFI shell. It isn't an exploit hes got access to very low level shit.
>>54858883
Usually the seller gives them grades.
The seller I got mine from does Grade 1 to 4, with one being basically new, and 4 being "sed - Showing heavy signs of use, dents, cracks, worn keyboard, palmrest and lid, marks, scratchs, buffs, screen blemishs"
I got a grade two and there's one slight dent near the top of the bezel
>>54844708
Refurb x260, i3, 500GB HD, 16GB RAM and IPS.
Replacing a R61 that is acting flaky.
>>54857446
Bretty gud, nothing spectacular but it's alright
is good deal t60 (core duo t2500, 2gb ram, xga resolution) with dock for 87 euro shekels
What do i get?
>>54823189
what do i do if my new t430 off ebay has windows 10 and i want to dualboot debian + windows 7?
is there anyway to get windows 7 without shelling out $50 for a license? i'm not above pirating as long as it is safe/ won't get me locked out of my device
>>54844655
If I plan on upgrading everything, how does tihs look pricewise?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152047407934?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>54859308
expensive for a deprecated machine.
>>54851502
Yes.
>>54851602
Yes.
>>54852140
W520
>>54854711
Replace the latch, or the lid.
>>54855207
Sperm.
>>54860085
You install the OS you want? What the fuck kind of question is that?
>>54860089
Overpriced.
I think you guys will be able to help me out with this better than the stupid questions thread.
Is there any major performance difference between the intel core 2 duo t8100 and t8300? They seem to be the same, except the t8300 has a slightly higher clockspeed (2.1 GHZ vs 2.4 GHZ).
>>54860273
>install the os
yeah i mean is it safe to install pirate win7, or alternately, if there is an allowed way to downgrade. i actually said that don't fucking antagonize me you ass
>>54860445
You answered your own question.
>>54860485
Of course it's not safe. Run Linux if you want a free OS.
>>54860485
Forgot to mention, you may be able to downgrade through Win 10 if the previous owner upgraded from 7/7/etc.
well hello anons
i have t420 and want to give it to sister, so planing to buy myself another memepad, so I am asking is 225€ good deal for x301 (Core2Duo U9400, 1440 x 900, 64GB SSD, 4GB RAM)
>>54860503
hm $50 isnt too bad. i love win 7 desu
>>54854398
In about 24 hours, you're gonna make a post about how the classmate trashed your thinkpad and lost the red trackpoint.
Don't lend things to anyone, they don't value them as much as you do unless they gave collateral.
>>54860535
only if it was done less than 30 days ago
also, you can't put in the product key on the bottom of the laptop into the microsoft website because it says you need to contact the manufacturer
>>54858096
It's here ^_^
Anyone here has X1 tablet?
At this point I'm willing to overpay and deal with meme surface clone to get a 12" notebook with good 3:2 screen and trackpoint
I love my x61t.
Hey guys, i have been experiencing some problems with my T500 while using Windows 7 and 8.1 on it(Pic related W 8.1). Is that what´s called screan tearing? It is very anoying. Only happens when it is overused(more than ~2GB of ram in use). Tough when im running Windows on a VM with any linux as base, i experience 0 screen tearing. Any of you have this problem? Comments?
How much of a performance increase will I see going from a T61 with SSD to an X220 with i5?
>>54862436
Well the X220 has a lower resolution display so Jamal's cock will grow at least 4 inches longer while he's anally raping your wife in the bedroom and you shitpost in the bathroom in low resolution glory. The SSD will speed up how fast he'll fill up her hole with nigger-cum. Overall, you'll enjoy the experience.
>>54861913
>X61t
>screen bubbles
>>54861913
>screen bubbles
Hey /g/, I got my thinkpad recently. I enjoy it but I got some gripes with it. The laptop's screen "ghosts" and leaves something on the screen faintly if left long enough. I solve this with putting a white picture on the screen for a bit. And other things are reall minor, but until I go back to school I don't see why I need to use this laptop when I have my computer.
>>54860485
If you can find a Windows ISO after digitalriver got shut down, you can. A legitimate one of course.
>X220 comes in a week
life is sufferring.
>>54855421
Define higher resolution. But yes, there are two monitors for the T60. Check the wiki.
>>54860485
do you have a product key?
Just got my first thinkpad, an x240
Maybe not the best one from what I've read but got a pristine one for a good price
Just scored a T60 and stuffed it with 4gb RAM and an 80gb SSD, has a T2400 dualie. Holy fuck this thing flies on 7 Pro with the SSD, going to probably max out the CPU soon.
The screen is a little dim but otherwise it's a solid rig and I paid next to nothing for the barebones system.
I also have an E545 my friend just knocked off the damn table so I have to order all new bottom shit, and a 600e Windows 98 DOSpad that I slapped together.
Alright fags.
I got an x220t with Xubuntu.
How do I make the FN + back play/mute fastward work
I just bought T430 with win8 for $350. Have I dun goofed much? The keyboard seems weird and doesn't look cool but it's only 2.5yo compared to 5yo t420 that look like taken from garbage.
>>54863352
>Win8
You done goofed.
>>54863256
>xubuntu
Install arch, you're hurting the poor thinkpad.
>>54863434
Been considering swapping to Debian. Answer my question though?
>>54863415
Why? Win8 is comfy and it costs like $35 for return license
just went from ~40% battery to dead while watching a 10 minute youtube video on my T420. is this normal?
had it on moderate brightness, video was 1080@50
>>54863552
how new is the battery?
how often do you run it off battery?
Is it possible to get an X201t battery that doesn't poke out?
>>54863724
no idea how new the battery is, i assume quite old. just bought the computer, so i don't know much about it
>>54863790
if you have only just got it, the battery could still be calibrating
charge it up to full, and then run it down until it dies again
next time it dies it should die closer to 0%
>>54844655
Between the T460, T460s and Thinkpad Yoga460, which one owuld you guys recommend?
>>54863866
no no it went to 0, my question was whether it's normal for it to go down that quickly
like it just ran out a lot faster than i was expecting
>>54864035
could still be calibrating
it certainly is unusual, but do one or two more full charges and discharges and see if it dies as quickly
>>54863515
Whiskey Menu -> Settings -> Keyboard -> Application Shortcuts
To increase the brightness:
xbacklight -inc 10
To decrease the brightness:
xbacklight -dec 10
To decrease the volume:
pactl set-sink-volume alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo -- -10%
To increase the volume:
pactl set-sink-volume alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo -- +10%
To toggle mute:
pactl set-sink-mute alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo toggle
I copied this from some ubuntu forum just so you know...
Alright /tpg/, a couple questions. First, my hinges on my R60 are loose. This doesn't bother me a whole lot, but would like to get it fixed for cheap. Any idea of where to get cheap hinges for it?
2. I have an SSD and 4GB of Ram in my X200t. Is it worth upgrading to 8 GB, since it is more of a backup laptop for when I need a windows computer?
3. Should I upgrade anything else while at it? my R60 has a 2 ghz processor coming in, 4 GB ram, and an SSD in it. X200t has SSD, 2GB ram, and a 1.86 GHZ processor.
>>54844655
Fuck... i just ordered a X220 cuz i'm not happy with my T430 keyboard...
>>54864035
You can look up the battery's health, at least on GNU/Linux. Think it is possible through Windows too. That should tell you if the battery is knackered
>>54864370
>He has to use the terminal to fuck with his backlight and volume.
Are you purposely cucking yourself, or are you just an idiot?
>>54864750
1. ebay
2. Use it how you normally would. Does the RAM seem to be a limitation? Do you run out of RAM? If yes, upgrade
3. Does your R60 do what it needs to? As above, does anything seem to be limiting it? If so, under what circumstances, and would any proposed upgrades help?
I guess what I'm driving at is that nobody can tell you if your specs are enough. I am using a really low power machine right now, but it does what I need it to do and so replacing it would be stupid (further upgrades are not possible). try using your machines and see how you go. Not much point trying to work out what could be better without real world data.
>>54864752
>Not swapping the keyboard to the T420
lol
>>54864831
I feel a little limited on my R60 (daily for stupid shit). My x200 is solely a windows backup machine that I use on travel and whatnot when space is limited, so I have almost never reached it's maximum potential so far. Was just wondering if now would be a good time to upgrade or not. thanks man.
>>54853554
that's why you wait until you get it to order not super important stuff like that.
If it's a charger then yeah order one at the same time, but if it's a stylus (borderline useless part) don't even bother ordering one
also I hope that you didn't get one with the ulv cpu. I made that mistake and sold it almost instantly since even web browsing was unusable.
>>54864750
8GB DDR3 is cheap as hell these days, unless you're maximum poorfag there's little reason to not max it out. Just remember you need to get 2x4GB sticks, it won't work with 1x8.
I think the R60 is laid out identically to the T60 on the inside, which means it's a possible shell for a T601F (R601F in this case?). That would be a solid upgrade to its usability if you're willing to hunt for the needed parts.
How long does it normally take to ship a thinkpad from lenovo's website with normal shipping?
Originally lenovo's tracking page told me it would take 2 weeks, then all of a sudden a day later it said it would only take 1 week.
Now I have a UPS tracking number now, and the package is being processed in HK. But with customs and international shipping, is it really just a week?
>>54864878
Sounds to me that you can leave the x200 alone for now at least
As for the R60, do you know if you are RAM or CPU limited? If the former, easy upgrade. If the latter perhaps an upgrade is in order. I dont know if the processor can be upgraded (not an expert in any way at all) but if not you could always sell the R60 and put it towards a higher-specced machine. If you can live with the current performance I would advise to just stick with it for now, consider cleaning up/otherwise streamlining the OS or alternative software if one replaceable program seems to be a bastard to you
>>54864979
I have the RAM maxed out on my R60 (only 4GB max), but I like it's square screen and old school styling. Like I said, new processor is on its way to me, should be a solid upgrade from 1.66 Ghz to 2 Ghz. Already checked too, compatibility is good. Hopefully I can get a few more years out of my R60.
>>54864839
Well it's a shitty idea since bios upgrade will never be available...
I'd rather have two dankpads, one smaller and more convinient.
>>54865036
Very sorry, overlooked where you said you were getting the new processor. You're on linux, right? What distro are you using? I'm using a netbook with an atom and 2GB RAM and for day to day word processing/internet/light coding etc it is a very usable machine. That being said I noticed a very big difference shifting between DEs - best I have found is i3 on a minimal debian install
So uh guys, any recent release from Lenovo that's bretty gud? I kept looking online for the older models but I can't find something that's clean or decent, it's either dirt covered or that the keys and trackpad are fading.
>>54865097
Currently running on Mint. Thinking of switching to Debian or Fedora though. This is about my only machine for everyday portable machine, since I'm away from home for 8 hours.
>>54865048
>Well it's a shitty idea since bios upgrade will never be available...
what is coreboot/libreboot
>>54865132
If you have the time, I would probably try something more lightweight. If I remember, I used Mint XFCE and it was OK but I saw a definite speedup with debian/i3. If you don't already, consider a separate /home partition to make distro-hopping a bit easier
>>54865141
Are you trying to tell me that they fixed key mappings in libreboot for T420 keyboards attached to T430 laptops?
>>54865268
Not for Libreboot/Coreboot, but they did find a way to modify the EC that makes the keyboard work perfectly.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
>>54865346
I've jsut foudn that webpage, wow. I'm amazed.
I'll prbably get X220 anyway, or maybe oryginal T60 but they are usually in such a bad condition...
But thanks, i'll try atachign the old KB someday. I'll try to acustom myself to this new shit first, maybe it will work out for me...
>>54864827
He asked for how to bind media keys to do it
IDK how Xubuntu does it by default, but I know the media keys on my thinkpad dont work on arch by default with i3. The backlight should though...
>>54846960
Why are you using XP?
If I am switching to a new laptop and I have an external drive enclosure for a laptop drive, can I just boot arch from usb and DD the drive from old laptop to the other hard drive in the enclosure and just put it in the new thinkpad? Or will it break drivers or some shit?
>>54847880
Why fake an IBM sticker? Just buy an IBM era Thinkpad if you want one so badly haha.
Got me an x220, replaced the shit panel with an ips panel and put an ssd on it. It runs mint flawlessly. dont see myself buying another laptop for at least 4 years.
>>54866221
addendum: which trackpoint nub style do you fags like?
>>54854711
Try replacing the latch
>>54866228
Classic
Well, I bought the X230T. Did I do good or did I fuck up?
>>54866369
The price kinda suprises me? Depends on the condition though. The X220 i bought was about the same price but was described as "in Excellent condition" which it is
>>54867202
The listing said that it was in very good condition and from the pictures it didn't seem like it was that too scuffed at all, maybe a few marks on the screen but other than that, pretty good condition.
>>54867229
Specs are a factor too, but it looks like a good purchase. Its likely I paid more than I should have.
>>54867260
True, but it was an i5-3320m, and most other listings on ebay inflated that way more than it should've been. Not only that, but it was multi-touch too (contacted the seller about it, that's what sold me in the end). And besides, even though it came with 4 gb ram and 500 gb HDD, I can always upgrade them later. And if I really wanted to, I'm sure I can switch out the motherboard for one that uses an i7, if I really wanted it.
Either way, I hope you enjoy your X220 anon!
>>54867308
>4GB of ram
Yeah I opted for the 8GB of RAM model, the 4GB X220's where actually fairly cheaper. Hope you enjoy your Thinkpad too anon!
>install Fedora 24 beta for keks
>thinkfan wont fucking work no matter what shit i try
>thinkpad_acpi is active, i can manually change fan levels withecho level * > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan^
>have good config fileWARNING: Using default fan control in /proc/acpi/ibm/fan.
WARNING: Using default temperature inputs in /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal.
/proc/acpi/ibm/thermal: No such file or directory
add_sensor: Error getting temperature.
/proc/acpi/ibm/thermal: No such file or directory
Error parsing temperatures:
readconfig: Error getting temperature.
Refusing to run without usable config file!
Macfag here. Finally decided I need a pc for my job that requires me to work with huge datasets. I'm straight up retarded when it comes to understanding computer specs though. What thinkpad should I look for on ebay (shooting for <$300)?
>>54867839
>Macfag
>Doesn't understand computer specs
Sounds about right.
>>54862917
If it bothers you, just replace the panel with a newer revision one that ends with (SL)(T1) or (SL)(B3).
>>54863156
replace the touchpad with **50 series one ASAP
Should i choose the t430 over t420?
>>54869296
No.
>>54869432
But the 430 is cheaper.(and better?)
>>54869747
yes go for it, t420 has a better keyboard but thinkpad chiclet style of keyboard is best among chiclet style keyboards
>>54864890
Naa it was the top end i7
>>54867490
Which thinkpad? I saw this output on my x220 and it's because the newer thinkpads are not supported.
>>54871751
(Not that anon) It's a T420 possibly a T420s
Sort of /sqt/ material
Should I bother trying to get a Thinkpad that stacks up against my current laptop or would it be impossible (at least without dumping a fuckton of dosh)? I've never dwelled into Thinkpads personally so I've no real idea how to go about this
Fuck, my T420S (i7/NVidia) has coil whine and the X201 I received is completely different from the pictures in the eBay listing, not a good day.
Might be able to live with the coil whine if it does not get worse, but the X201 is in a lot worse condition than I hoped for 150 dollar.
Already contacted both sellers but I'm fairly sure I'm fucked either way.
>>54871751
T420. I decided to go back to Xfce for now and it turns out that it was just me being retarded.tp_fan /proc/acpi/ibm/fanworks totally fine.
hwmon /sys/devices/virtual/hwmon/hwmon0/temp1_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp2_input
hwmon /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp3_input
#(FAN_LEVEL, LOW, HIGH)
(0, 0, 55)
(1, 48, 60)
(2, 50, 61)
(3, 52, 63)
(4, 56, 65)
(5, 60, 69)
(7, 68, 32767)
>>54855327
I'm using a T420 with a 240gb SSD, and only 4gb of ram and it runs perfectly. I'd strongly suggest to get an SSD, it makes the laptop that much better.
They're suprisingly good for being 4+ years old
which is more powerful, x1 carbon 4th gen or x260
>>54873064
My t410 was with 4gb also, got an SSD in it and i was "WOAH THAT SHIT IS FAST"... after sometime I didn't have much to do and bought corasair 2x4gb and performance bump was 'meh'
I finally did it. I bought an X220. :^)
>>54873938
Great choice, you'll love it. (If it has an IPS display that is)
I'm new to the thinkpad meme.
I just figured out the cd reader can come out on my t400.
Can I put something else in that hole? I don't use cd's (who does?).
>>54874079
Ultrabay battery (expensive as fuck) or a hdd caddy, where you can put any 2.5" hdd.
any thinkpad solutions for [spoiler] gaming____ [/spoiler] ?
>>54873998
of course friend
>>54871803
Not a normal thinkpad guy here but, I've been looking at them all day and I'm pretty sure you can easily find a thinkpad with >2.0Ghz i5, more than 6GB of RAM, etc
Some even have video cards, but I don't know which ones. The only area you're really losing out on is you'll have an older CPU but, functionally you won't even notice the difference with some of them.
Go to ebay, type in Thinkpad T420, or X220, and then any stuff you feel you want. Like my searches all have 8GB 1600x900 in them because I hate 1366x768
>>54874208
Grow up. That's the solution. It depends on what kind of 'gayming' you're doing. Why does no one in these threads ever mention what they're going to do?
For example, the only games I play are Don't Starve and Team Fortess 2. Both of which ran well enough on the Surface Pro 3, a damn tablet.
Every game I love can run just fine on integrated graphics. What about you? Are you trying to play AAA games from 2016 on it? Then you'll have to buy a new Thinkpad most likely, which sort of defeats the purpose of why people in these threads get so hard for them.
>>54874208
depends on the games
my E545 can run CS:S with all the eye candy on at max res at 120fps with AMD A10 APU.
my old 600E DOS pad runs DOS games on a PII 366
keep or smash?
>>54874544
*tips fedora*
>>54859924
pls respond
X41 with Windows 10 arrives today thinkfags, let's see how it is. I'll post when I get home from work.
>>54875246
Install Windows 2000, shitpost in style.
Not a bad machine, would be a shame to smash if t still works good.
>>54876245
>x41 with W10
christ that will be an experience
>>54875246
If the computer works then there's no reason to smash it.
So guise,
I just purchased a fucking dockingstation without knowing if it is possible what I want.
I am using ubuntu 16.04.
Is it possible to configure it that way that if it is docked that only dvi is used as main monitor?
I want to throw my desktop pc into le trash and just go full thinkpad with docking station and 24" monitor
>>54876348
im wondering how well it runs, im sure it runs like shit, a 1.5ghz pentium m and 1.5gb of ram cannot handle that under any circumstances
windows xp though, that should be gold on it
linux mint can also idle with 75mb of ram on windowmaker, which i might go for, just depends how good the touchscreen is on linux
either way, the xp recovery disk doesnt show up for 2 more days and the linux mint usb hasnt shipped yet, so im gonna be stuck with windows 10 on it for a while
what would you lot think about an ultrabay unit that was just a little drawer you could slide open and shut, and put things in?
what about one that had a bunch of universal adapaters inside, SD, microSD, usb, those mini HDD's, lightning port, etc
one that slid out and had a cupholder?
wallet?
tiny retractable lamp?
numberpad?
gun?
>>54878322
It's definitely possible to do it manually. It's probably possible to do automatically. xrandr is what you will use to switch monitor set ups.
Usually docking causes an acpi event. I'm not sure if it is one of the events systemd can pick up or not but if it's not acpid or some program can. What you want to do is call xrandr every time a docking even occurs.
Don't throw your desktop away. Run it as a headless server or something so you can use it as NAS and a compile machine and other shit you don't want to tie up your main machine's cpu with.
Today i changed the hinges on my Thinkpad T61, I took the occasion to take a shot at the really nice back of the screen, to use as a wallpaper.
Alright, so this is some shit, My X41, battery and RAM arrived.
The X41 came in this box.
Wonderful box right? It is beat to shit, filled with some green plastic bubblewrap and packing peanuts, the outside is wet with something.
>having dreams where my thinkpad comes in the mail
it hurts
>>54879415
Heres the box the fucking battery came in.
Note, its padded with foam, it was also wrapped in that foam bag.
Its a 8$ battery.
The box is big enough to fit 10 of em in there
>>54879438
And the back of the X41 was covered in glue, which melted with the plastic in the summer heat, and it got into the air intakes and ram slot.
Did i mention that this laptop is also dirty as fuck? It looks like someone shook it up in a bag of crushed up doritoes. Honestly, its a mess of dust and shit. Im bringing it to work tomorrow to use the air guns to clean it out.
>>54879480
And yes /g/, you can have my tablet XP key.
>>54879480
why do you want such an old laptop? I thought my x61 was old...
>>54879480
Why are you not just sending these pics to the seller and returning it? Why bother with that crap..
Please Kill me
>>54879526
i wanted a tablet thinkpad, but one with the old IBM logo on it
>>54879650
oh ive already sent my pics in, im pissed as shit about the glue
but i still want the laptop, i can clean it, but its going to take some time
>>54879840
honestly, windows 10 is unusable on it
not possible, it goes full toaster mode almost instantly, worse than my T42 does when playing Halo
just wait for mint to arrive
just wait for mint to arrive
just wait for mint to arrive
just wait for mint to arrive
Can a T420 run League at 60 fps?
>just got my x220
>>54844655
any upgrades or extra hacks for an X220?
>>54880667
probably noy 60fps but more than 30
