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Previously on: >>54784146

Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

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>>54801295
where is his Laptop?
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>>54801319
probably the bag behind him.
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Hey guys, new to GNU/Linux and I, and I'm being a tad bit confused on running Openbox. I'm following this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox

Trying to do it from the commandline, and typing in:
 exec openbox-session 


It mentions to setup the xinitric file in your home directory and insert the line above, however I don't really know how to get there from a terminal.
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>>54801426

>copy xinitrc file into your home directory
>open it with a text editor (nano)
>add that command

Or just stop posting Japanese cartoon images and use a display manager like LightDM to start your session in an aesthetically pleasing way with a bunch of other useful features (session management).
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>>54801426
use an editor (nano, vi, ed ...)
to edit your xinitrc, add that line and remove the lines for the default session (starting from the line containing twm & until the other exec line)
this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xinitrc will give you an idea on how your xinitrc should look like
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>>54801295
ok still on this nis stuff
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NIS#Install_Packages


at this point
/var/yp/ypservers
Add your server to /var/yp/ypservers:
# your.nis.server

first i dont have a ypsevers file, so created one.
next this part
# your.nis.server

do i leave that as is and paste into file or do i edit something like this
mydomainicreated.nis.server

or just use
mydomainicreated
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I didnt restart after changing etc/fstab and closing it and opening it still freezes it i can even use the keyboard to select things
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I got a old P4 with 256MB of RAM.

Anyone can recommend me a distro that will not be slow as fuck?
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>>54801426
since you got some confusing instructions from multiple people, here's one command that does everything you need:
echo 'exec openbox-session' >> ~/.xinitrc

which tells your shell to print the text "exec openbox-session" and append it (>>) to a file .xinitrc in your home directory, or create the file if it doesn't exist.
>>54801549
if you have no clue what you're doing you could probably use Puppy Linux.
Else I'd use Debian netinstall and go from there
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>>54801600
>
echo 'exec openbox-session' >> ~/.xinitrc

wont solve anything if the default session is still in there
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>>54801600
I got time to play around with it so I'll try debian netinstall.

I used a live cd of a tinycore based distro that was fast as could be, but I am not experienced enough to know what I'd be doing. I may try gentoo or arch based on the wikis. I have no life.
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>>54801619
true, I didn't think of that. Using nano is the better way then.
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>>54801500
do you have xscreensaver installed?
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>>54801700
I dont know, i didnt install it and i didnt uninstall it so if i lt came with mint 17.3 i have it
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How do I use "xargs"? I have no idea what it does and I'm too dumb to understand the manpage.

Can anyone give me a minimal example with "xargs" explaining what it does?
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>>54801500
you may need to restart for the changes to have an effect.
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What are some disadvantages Debian has?

Aside from the age of packages in Stable, I mean (which can be circumvented by just using Testing or Sid)

I ask because I've been using it for a while now and I've felt really comfortable with it. But I've also heard people disliking it so I wonder if it's them having trouble with things I haven't had to deal with or just personal preference.
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>>54801497
>your.nis.server
well now i ge4t ypbind error?

tried both ways
mydomainicreated
mydomainicreated.nis.server
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>>54801960
anyone good with yp.conf? or nis stuff
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>>54801600
>confusing instructions
They were both telling anon to do the same thing.
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I am really autistic about the size of packages. I am not going back to a "solo" WM because DEs are pretty comfy. I installed fedora with gnome but I am thinking about switching to xfce. Will I be missing much? I feel like they will both have the same basic features.
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>>54801950
the freeze testing has is a problem, for some people it is a problem that /tmp is in ext4 by default in jessie, not all of the wiki pages are as good as the arch wiki (though some are better), some people dislike dpkg for some reason, some people dislike that they need to change a text file first to install proprietary software on it, by default it is not configured to be very secure, you have to do that yourself if you feel the need to.
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Now that windows xp is insecure, is running applications through Playonlinux also insecure when the windows xp option is selected?
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>>54802049
For a home user, how do you go about making Debian reasonably secure?

Nothing too fancy, just basic security at perhaps Ubuntu levels (I assume they've got that covered?)
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>>54802001
of the three anons who replied (one got deleted) none told him that it's not xinitrc but .xinitrc.
Since he didn't even know "how to get there from a terminal" I assumed he didn't even know how to navigate through the filesystem with cd, hence my suggestion to use echo >> ~/.xinitrc.
And he seemed inexperienced enough to not know that "nano .xinitrc" creates the file if it doesn't exist or opens it if it does.
So, that's why I wrote what I wrote, but I get why it wasn't a good solution.
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>>54802043
as someone that went the other way around, gnome feels more complete in the way that has gnome packages for basically everything an OS needs if you don't use gnome-core but the whole things and gnome tries to innovate. xfce is really easy to customize and has pretty good default programs even if some in gnome are better. xfce tries to be compatible with everything and is very stable for a DE. their approach is very nice but they don't have enough people helping them.
xfce has more little annoying bugs but not something that would be a big problem.
both are very nice DE.
>>54802088
for a "home user", configuring ufw is probably already overkill. but https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
https://wiki.debian.org/Hardening
these will help if you need more.
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>>54802093
>none told him that it's not xinitrc but .xinitrc
I didn't even realize this. Not everyone is made to teach I guess.
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>>54802135
Thanks, I will probably stick to gnome for now. It's pretty comfy.
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>>54802135
>for a home user, configuring ufw is probably already overkill

Why do you think so?
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>>54802204
because usually most people have firewalls on their routers and not many people in their networks scanning open ports and generally being 1337-h4xx0r5.
of course it's better to be safe than sorry but in reality, debian is secure enough for a regular user that doesn't plan to visit defcon.
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>>54802072
Running proprietary programs is always insecure, no matter which system.
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>>54802265
>look ma! I'm shitposting!
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>>54802322
he is right, you need to be sure if you can trust the packager and the author of the software. this is always true, especially if you install things from outside of your distros repository. reproducible builds might remove the packager from the equation in the future.
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woohoo ypbind running
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why is this thread so slow today?
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ok g/ if bored im trying to setup nis still.
from here
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NIS#Install_Packages

I run the yptest but gett error about binding domain

Test 2: ypbind
can't yp_bind: Reason: Domain not bound

this screen cap of current config
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>>54803239
it's sunday, people aren't at work and don't need to shitpost to kill time
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>>54801295
Does anyone have any experience setting up NFS shares? I set up my share, and it is getting ~100MB/s for the first 2gb of a large file over my gigabit network, and then it slows down to less than 1MB/s for a long time before going back up and repeating until the transfer is done. I am guessing that I am configuring something wrong. The Samba share between the same systems gets a constant 10MB/s.

I have been trying different configs, but this is what I have right now:

Server:
/home/share     192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
/home/ext 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(async,no_subtree_check,rw,no_root_squash)
/mnt/data 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_subtree_check,async,no_root_squash)


Client /etc/fstab:
#share
192.168.0.186:/home/share /home/share nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
192.168.0.186:/home/ext /home/ext nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
192.168.0.186:/mnt/data /mnt/serverdata/ nfs rsize=32768,wsize=32768,intr,noatime


Would any of you be willing to post configurations that are working well?
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>>54803466
>having a job
normies out
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i'm running xubuntu on a thinkpad x201. i installed compton following this guide here: http://duncanlock.net/blog/2013/06/07/how-to-switch-to-compton-for-beautiful-tear-free-compositing-in-xfce/

it works great and got rid of all my screen tearing, but when i run apt-get update i get these errors at the bottom:

E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/richardgv/compton/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/richardgv/compton/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.


anyone know how to fix?
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>>54803656
sudo apt-add-repository -r ppa:richardgv/compton
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>>54803551
Your disk is too slow and you run out of ram.
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>>54801295
I want to use KDE. Should I use kubuntu or manjaro?

What are their respective strengths and weaknesses?
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>>54803747
dont i need it though to update compton?
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>>54803782
>kubuntu
works
>manjaro
>doesn't work

It's up to you mate
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>>54803772
Fuck off tripfag.

>>54803791
Well sure, but since the ppa seems to be dead, there's no reason to keep it. If you want it to get updated, try an alternative ppa.
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>>54803782
stay away from arch js ;)
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>>54803809
Thats why the download slows down, the disk isn't writing 100MB/s and he runs out of cache so it slows down.
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>>54803806
That's quite a compelling argument, thanks anon!
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>>54803829
Ever thought about switching to reddit?
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>>54803772
Is there a way to increase the cache? I have 8gb of ram installed in the server. The drive I am using is a 4TB WD blue. Is the disk the bottleneck?
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>>54803829
>>54803772
Get off my lawn, clown.
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>>54803862
Bottleneck is on the client side not the server.
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Using ufw to setup a firewall.The outbound policy is allow,the inbound policy is deny.The outbound connections are not working,http https dns.
iptables -L agrees with this.
How do i fix this?
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>>54804199

Reinstall, because you fucked something up.
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>>54804272
Reinstalling will not change the policies.
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>>54804307
The policies are quite obviously not the problem if you have set them up correctly.
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I'm trying to install Steam on my Arch installation (yeah, i know, nonfree software and all that, but I want to play some gaems).

What are all the needed 32-bit libraries needed?
I installed the ones mentioned here wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam
but it still fails to start.
Pic related is the error log.
xcursor is installed, btw.
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nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="HDMI-1:1920x1080_60 +1200+578 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }, DP-1:1200x1920_60 +1920+0 left { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"


Is this potentially dangerous?
Will the "left" part work?
Does it look alright?
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>>54804386
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam/Troubleshooting#Steam_runtime_issues
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>>54804317
Checking the binary of the installed package matches the md5sum of the binary provided by the distro.
The non binary files in the system match the md5 of the package provided by the distro
Compiling from source, the binary and non binary filles match the md5 of the installed files, and from the package provided by the distro
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>>54804415
You have set it up incorrectly or something else is blocking.
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>>54804407
Thanks, that worked.
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>>54804438
Setting a global policy for inbound and outbound traffic, cannot be blocking anything.If it is, then all iptables installed would be malfuntioning as well.
>blocking
There is no other software that would be blocking it. If you would like to suggest such programs, i would check for them.
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>>54804478
Must be magic then anon.
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>>54804478
>Setting a global policy for inbound and outbound traffic, cannot be blocking anything
Not him but that is not what he was suggesting.
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>>54804595
I know. But for diagnostic purposes, even setting no restrictive policies, it still does not work
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How do I check if radeon dpm is enabled? Wondering if live distros have it enabled.
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>>54804624
Then it seems that it is not ufw that is blocking your connections.
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>>54804711
It only happens when i enable ufw, or enable iptables with the same policies
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>>54803422
ok got to this point woohoo i think???


arch-vb has been set up as a NIS master server.
Now you can run ypinit -s arch-vb on all slave server.


is this right or do i setup another host on my install to interact with client side?
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I have this little program that displays an icon in the panel and the window title. Where do I find that icon? It's not in /usr/share/icons. It's from an AUR so I had to custom-add it to the menu
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Why is it a pain to generate a xorg.conf file on Ubuntu? Why can't it just at least include a template or some shit?
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my problem seems to be that when i generate the grub config after installing (for UEFI/GPT) with
# grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot --bootloader-id=grub
, it says
ERROR: mkdir /var/lock/dmraid
ERROR: mkdir /var/lock/dmraid
ERROR: mkdir /var/lock/dmraid
ERROR: mkdir /var/lock/dmraid
ERROR: mkdir /var/lock/dmraid
/run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.

but, a config file is generated, and looks like it should be fine. however, when the computer is rebooted i am put into a black screen that says:
GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2
Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions.
grub >

any suggestions?
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>>54805112
>sudo touch xorg.conf
Seems pretty easy to generate one to me.
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>>54805112
doesn't it automatically make one in etc/X11?
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>>54805057
>from aur
go to the aur page and go to 'source files'.It should list the name there then use find or locate to find the path
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>>54805204
oh shit thatnks anon it was right there
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>>54805176
Not on Ubuntu 16.04
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>>54804386
>>54804407
>>54804460
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>>54804386
>steam
At least choose the lesser evil.
https://www.gog.com/
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>>54805442
Yeah, I know... But not every game i like is on GOG.
Also, they shouldn't be called "Evil," they deliver DRM-free games and movies.
Developpers can't release their games under GPL and expect to make money doing it, that's why free games suck.
The GPL requires you to let the users see the source of the game, and if they can see it for free, why would they pay the devs?
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So, trying to install Steam on Arch, but it just doesn't launch, at all.

The drivers should be the correct ones, has anyone got an idea of what the fuck the problem is?
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>>54805535

Also, there is nothing really useful in the error log - something about not finding version numbers and distro, could this really fuck it all up? It doesn't exactly crash either way.
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>>54805503
You can still charge for the assets, it makes more sense this way anyway. There was an interesting conversation about this on lundukes site with rms and a few other people.
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>>54805535
>>54805559
>>>/sqt/
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>>54805535
>not installing the proper lib32 libraries
>cant follow a hand holding wiki, where you can literally copy paste the contents of the wiki and get to work
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>>54805582
You have to give everyone the right to copy it verbtiam and sell if for them selves
This will never workin in stallmas delutied dimension
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>>54805651

That's the thing, the multilib and corresponding 32-bit libraries are all installed as far as I can see. Maybe it's some bullshit with the nVidia drivers and optimus shit, but that's gonna be a bitch to just trial-and-error through the correct combinations.
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>>54805535

install gentoo
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>>54805710
Either:
Read the wiki,
Post verbose logs,
Spend all night figuring it out your self.
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>>54805743

Yeah, fuck it, was hoping that it was some semi-common problem, not some special fuck-up I've made. I'll get back to torubleshooting in the meantime.

Thanks any /flgt/
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How the fuck do I watch porn on Fedora?

The only videos that load are HTML5 youtube and shit. I can't even install Chrome, it just randomly said failed when I tried it in the software center after dling it

Wat do?
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>>54805764
It probably is, but you're not able to post logs. So go ahead
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>>54805775
youtube-dl
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>>54805775
it says it failed, but you should be able to just click on that Google Chrome icon that you have right there.
At least I had that, said it failed but was installed correctly anyway
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Should I get Lubuntu or Xubuntu as my first Linux? What are the main differences?
I asked some time ago and got few adviced and these 2 are the last ones between which I decide
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>>54805764
Please never come back.
>>54805775
No idea what obscure porn sites you're going to visit, but just use the good ones. They're all working.
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>>54805775
Download it so it isnt shitty 240p 2min videos?
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>>54805802
Like what? Literally haven't find ONE website that works. Just says i'm missing the plugin.

>>54805775
>>54805793
That's just a random pic off google. It didn't even installing finish chrome. it just failed.

>>54805792
What's that? I don't want to fucking have to DL streaming videos just to watch them......
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>>54805775

>not masturbating to static images
>not masturbating to the thought of the women you see in real life
>masturbating at all and not feeling guilt for wasting your life

Fortunately, I have those safety-nets and will never have trouble with "watching" porn on Linux distributions.
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>>54805680
Again, assets are not software and they can use different licenses. Stop your shit b8.
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>>54805815
Random pic: pornhub as example?
These here also work: http://www.pornmd.com/
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>>54805804
Why the fuck would I want to download every single streaming video i'd ever click

You guys are retards, jesus christ. Just give me a simple solution to watch multimedia on the internet

or is linux this trash to a desktop user?


>>54805820
nice excuse for having a fucking shit OS lol
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>>54805836
Yes it is. Now leave.
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>>54805815
>>54805836
just leave this thread. Shut your foul mouth and don't come back. If you want help you can ask nicely.
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>>54805815
>how to use mpv with youtube-dl
this is /g/ you are on here, it is for people that like technology and can use a search engine.
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>>54805836
It's not like that we are here for the money.
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>>54805874
Do you even have a proper solution that isn't hours of code hunting and file manipulation? Probably why ur so quick to say leave because you know it's shit
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>>54805794
doesn't matter, go xu
>>54805913
there are actually 3 ways to fix your problem, 2 of them are good and all of them take less than 3 minutes. But you are a faggot that does not belong on /g/ and that can't even ask nicely, so you will have to use a search engine on your own and discover the worst fix first.
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>>54805973
Actually there are 4 ways, but I never managed to get mpv running with mozplugger.
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>>54806021
mplayer should be preconfigured
not sure about mpv
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>>54806021
i excluded mozplugger as well because it didn't work properly for me as well. fortunately you can even use whole shell scripts in open with, not just mpv.
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>>54806095
>fortunately you can even use whole shell scripts in open with, not just mpv.
nigger what? holy shit, you just opened a door of infinite possibilities, thanks man

task tonight:
- script for automatically moving, renaming and optmizing after downloading %s
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>>54805775


Fedy
> https://github.com/folkswithhats/fedy

UnitedRPMs
> https://unitedrpms.github.io/
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>>54805140
any help would be much appreciated!
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>>54804995
ok so isee that portmapper is issue with secondary server, i am still not sure i should have main install as designated nis master server.

so when i goto arch portmapper
https://www.archlinux.org/news/portmap-replaced-by-rpcbind-important-nfs-utils-upgrade/

tells me to edit /etc/rc.conf
rc.conf does not exist?
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>>54806231
>https://github.com/folkswithhats/fedy
How does fedora handle downloading stuff that's not in the repository?
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>>54806808
Nevermind fuck it. I fixed it by just installing google chrome. Too much fucking work getting codecs and all sorts of shit working with firefox.
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>>54806854
and another one is lost :(
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>>54805836
Do you not have more then 100mb of disk space?
jesus you milenials are full breed retarded
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>>54805829
So i am free to edit the GPL as i see fit for my own needs,and then sell it? Because that is the freedom that GPL gives me

>assets
Software is assets, look at all the patents big corp has, that they throw around to keep people from using tech
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>>54807176
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>>54807505
>cant address real possiblities
>claims its bait
Your inablilty is comical
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Just installed Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro but I'm noticing some lag and slowdown at times, this shouldn't happen right? Or will I have to switch to a more lightweight distro?
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>>54807533
you pretend the GPL license is software when it is clearly a legal document. How is that a real possibility?

You are not here to discuss anything, you are here to insult and to shill your silly notion that free software is something bad. If you wanted a discussion you would consider the other point of view.
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>>54807176
>So i am free to edit the GPL as i see fit for my own needs, and then sell it? Because that is the freedom that GPL gives me
You're free to edit the source and sell it, not the license.
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>>54807590
how old is your MBP? No, usually it shouldn't lag at all.
Did you install proprietary graphics drivers, did you install software not through the repos, are you running a virtualized supercluster in the background?
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>>54807601
I didn't say it is bad, i honestly like GPL, and some of the technology it has made prominent in the tech industry through out its existance.
But you zealots that bring the notion that using anything that is not GPL is a threat to the free world, my personal being, and that i am part of an evil corporation hell bent on distroying modern computing.

Your shitposting is no different then anyones. Sure have your opinion but dont fucking go and blast someone for not using gpl, or forcing peopele in to a containment chamber for stallman brainwashing.
Think for your self.Claiming you're "free" by making a "free" choice to have 1 person determine what you can and cannot use,its liken to NK.
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>>54807719
My Macbook is from 2012. I've checked the "Additional Drivers" section and everythings updated, I've only installed software through the preinstalled software manager and Synaptic. Virtualized supercluster?
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>>54807721
>I honestly like the GPL
>stallman brainwashing.
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>>54807751
>Virtualized supercluster?
that was a joke.
How is your cpu usage? You can either check with the System Monitor tool if it's installed, or run "top" in a terminal.
When does the lag and slowdown occur, is it at times when the MBP is heavily in use or randomly?
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>>54807796
>top
by the way, where does top store it's rc file?
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I noticed I have no .xinitrc. Does that mean I have a display manager? How do I find out which one?
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>>54807980
nevermind, it's SLiM
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>>54807796
CPU usage looks fine. and the lag occurs when it's just in use, not heavy use, just when using Firefox etc.
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look at all those parrots
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How do I get Broadcom BCM4312 to work in a ubuntu live usb? I expect it will work if I install it but pretty much every distro I ever try in live mode doesn't work with this card.
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why are there so many parrots
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> A parrot once had sex with me. I did not recognize the act as sex until it was explained to me afterward, but being stroked on the hand by his soft belly feathers was so pleasurable that I yearn for another chance. I have a photo of that act; should I go to prison for it?
https://stallman.org/parrot-love.jpg
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>>54808361
With better context: https://stallman.org/articles/extreme.html
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when i boot into archbang, it automatically logs in as the default "ablive" user, without prompting. how do i get it to default to asking me which account to use, and then asking for a password?
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Using fdupes.
outputting fdupes -R gives a list of files,but it dosent seem to be doing any sort of hashing. It is removing files of the same name, but they are in different folders,and they are not the same image.
I dont see a switch for hash checking,unless im mistaken.
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>>54808622
I've never used fdupes but rmlint has a bunch of different hashes you can use.
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has anyone here done a Linux From Scratch build? was it as educational as it seems? I want to understand more
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>>54800252
Anon from last thread:
I don't know how to install the drivers.

I have a couple backport tar files with the endings gz, xz, and bz2 on a UbuntuMATE desktop. These were downloaded from my referenced post here. I know I need to sudo apt-get, but forget what else to type. I can't get anything online because without these drivers even installed my internet is screwed.

Any help would be apprechiated.
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Alright i'm going to give linux a shoot.

I got a tablet which i use only to study and read books, sometimes see videos about classes.
Sometimes i use it for review of pdfs and word archives and use it to make power point presentations.

Can linux do a better job than windows in here?
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>>54809294
Linux is a kernel, do you know C?
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>>54809294
What kind of tablet is it?

>>54809336
Go away.
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>>54809404
It is a Duplet tab 2, it has worked so far for me for the last 3 years but recently it updated to windows 10, w10 literally is draining all my hdd slowly and breaking everything slowly. It sucks hard, i was perfectly fine before
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So I want to give KDE a proper shot. Which would be the better choice, Kubuntu or openSUSE? I've seen both mentioned on site related to the best way to experience that DE.
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How often should I run the safe upgrade and full upgrade commands on Debian Testing and on Debian Sid?

Is it fine to do it every once a week? Should I try to do it everyday?
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>>>/wg/6576665
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>>54809444
Have you tried booting it off a Live flashdrive?

>>54809622
I update roughly daily on my Debian testing install, but that's just because it's convenient then.
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so was curious is it okay to run my install linux as master server via nis?
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my T420 on arch keeps disconnecting from the wifi network, about 15 seconds after i connect. it only does this on one network (coincidentally the only one i can actually use). i tested from a hotspot on my phone, and a different network, both of which worked perfectly fine. how should i go about fixing this??
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Why do people like Arch Linux?
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>>54809930
The logo.
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>>54809930
For me it was the easiest distro to get my GPU passthrough working. It has the newest packages by default, which made it ideal for that project. On my laptop I use Trisquel.
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>>54809930
I guess basically it's just the AUR.
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Talking about GPU passthrough, I'd like to take it upon myself to get it working on my Debian Testing machine over the next couple of days.

My computer has a GTX 760 and an i5 4440. Just one monitor.

Do I meet the requirements in that department? I heard something about needing 2 graphics cards or 2 monitors, but I think the integrated GPU that the i5 counts, right? So this means basically that any intensive video application will need to run on the Windows VM always, since Debian itself won't be able to handle it with only the i5 integrated GPU, right?
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>>54809930
aur
i would never bother with this inane shit if not for the aur (the wiki is great too tho)
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How does /fglt/ manage the programs they installed from git. Do you keep them for updating, or is there a program that does that job?
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>>54810128
That should work. I used two GPUs because I like to game in GNU/Linux, and my igpu only supports 3 screens.
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>>54810188
Wait a minute, why do you have 3 GPU's, and why do you have both an Arch and Ubuntu installation? I'm confused.

What do you play on GNU/Linux? Don't things just run with less hassle on your Windows VM anyway?
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>>54810219
I run everything I can in GNU/Linux. I almost never need to open up the VM, but if I do need to open it, it takes less than a minute. Also, I got it set up so that I can play a game in GNU/Linux while my friend plays a game next to me on a separate keyboard, mouse, monitor, speaker, etc.

The Ubuntu screenfetch is from my home server I am SSHed into.
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>>54810188
Also, what difficulties would I face by doing the passthrough thing with just one monitor?

Maybe I can hook up my Thinkpad to be the secondary monitor whenever I'm home. Don't know how complicated that would be.

>>54810268
I see. Man, I feel like I have a lot to learn, that's a cool as fuck setup. I haven't even learned how to use SSH yet.
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>>54809930
pacman and aur, and not being limited by what software i can use, by some wizard in the sky.
I started using it 8 years ago after finding all tech questions eventually refered to the arch wiki, and those 2 reasons are still why i use it.
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>>54810286
Thanks. The only downside I can see to having one screen is not being able to see both systems at once.
I like having a lot of screens though. When I used windows I used to have 7 screens, but GNU/Linux likes to keep all screens on one video card. I replaced my 7 lower resolution screens with the ones I have now and there are more pixels overall.
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>>54810325
>and not being limited by what software i can use, by some wizard in the sky.
When will you retards learn that you can install the fuck you want on free distros?
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>>54810178
use your package manager to manage them for you
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>>54810342
No, you cannot. You can only install the programs RMS deems worthy. By using non free software, you're being a hypocrite.
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>>54810362
Can't you install any software that you like on Debian too? All it takes is writing two words on a text file to enable all optional non-free repositories.
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>>54810219
*GPUs
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>>54810379
>non-free
Why even bother with it then? If you have to do extra steps to use the people's champions software?

Hypocrite.
You want to be cool and SUPPORT MUH FEEZIMS but you want actual software that gets things done. Hypocrite
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>>54810401
But you're making assumptions mang, calm down.

I don't want to be cool or make a statement. I like convenience, and while I think free software is a novel idea I don't necesarily want to adhere to only free software, which is why I enable the non-free repos

I'm only asking you a simple question.
>Can't you install any software that you like on Debian too?
And the answer to that is yes

So using it as a reason to use Arch like you said here >>54810325 is kind of silly, since it's not like Arch has exclusivity on this.

>extra steps is editing a text file with two words
Gimme a break. I like the Debian project and they have the right to want to champion mainly free software, while still providing a direct route to using non-free software.
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>>54810401
I guess a sane reply would just send me down to your level, so I'll just call you a misinformed faggot. :^)
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I installed steam but everytime I run it or click on it it just fucking sits there and does nothing?????

Should I just reinstall ubuntu?
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>>54810480
You're the forth guy with steam problems today.
I like where this is going.
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>>54810480
Run it from the terminal and check what error messages it spews out.
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>>54810477
>misinformed
I've hopped around fedora,debian,slackware before i landed on arch
They all had horrible dep problems(and from these threads, it seems they still do)

Why use a shitty distro that limits your software options,by default, then you can run another distro that dosent limit your choise in software.
>oh daddy daddy!!! This new program comes out today!!! You said you'd get it for my birthday!!!! *son that program goes against your right to freedom you cannot use it*
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>>54810508
The funny thing is Gabe says he loves Linux with a passion yet he hasn't really made it easier yet to install nor has he ported anymore games.
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>>54810534
...I think you have daddy issues anon
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>>54810535
At least their scripts are open source:
https://github.com/valvesoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671
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>>54810545
>cant create an solid argument about given issues
>ad hominem
:^)
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So guys, I have a question. It's not about OSs but about softwares that works on linux and which are free/open source.

What are the alternative for:
- adobe after effect?
- adobe premiere?
- adobe audition(non-destructive because audacity is destructive)

Thanks
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>>54810580
Do you take every joke as a personal attack
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>>54810587
>after affect
blender/cinerra/openshot
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>>54810480
$100 you will have to reinstall your GPU drivers after you install steam, why steam needs access to the drivers is beyond me.
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So guys, do you tend to just use/recommend the same distro for everyone in your family so that you can service their computers more evenly, or do you get everyone something different?

If you don't deal with your family's computer things, then same question but for the machines you own
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>>54810534
Free distros exists so the user knows when he's installing nonfree stuff, and bro, nonfree stuff is generally bad stuff. "champion software" is software where you, the user, has control over it and when it doesn't spy on you. For me it's comfy to manually enable a nonfree repro when I need something from the shit-pool, but generally know that everything I'm installing from my main repo is champion software. When I look at Arch's horrible idea of dropping every package into one pool without being able to know what is free and what is not without research for every package - pls no.
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>>54810587
Blender is pretty good.
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>>54810694
Set them all up on thin clients connected to your IIS + domain, push out updates at ease, THaNkS MICRO$OFT!
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>>54810613
>>54810723
I already use blender as a cad. I'm looking for a video modicator/effects. Blender is for 3D isn't it.
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>>54810766
Blender can also do video stuff, never played around with this part of it myself tho - ffmpeg is enough for my needs.
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>>54810706
>when he is installing
Why does 'he' not check the license then? They want to be a special snowflake with their software, why are they not more informed? Why would they trust the distro to keep at its word? What if someone infiltrated the disro and implated NUCLEAR WAREHEAD SOFTWARE?

>generally bad
kek
There is more then shitty gpl
BSD,MIT,Apache to name a few
If you really wanted to be free you would use WTFPL.
>listing all software that the user can use,in one repo
>horrible idea
Are you retarded? I dont have to maintain 10 third party depos to keep my system sane, nor do i have to deal with them being out of date with deps/libs in the offical repo during updates
>bad stuff
List 5 programs that currently dev'd that are shit with another license
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>>54810815
I was like you once and told everone to use WTFPL, because "restrictions are the opposite of freedom", but then I realized that free software needs protections, so nobody is able to come along and take the software's freedom away (Something that the BSD license allows).

tl;dr The common error people have is thinking the GPL restricts freedom, but in reality it's protecting it.
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>>54810815
Also, the term free software doesn't automatically mean that only GPL licensed software is allowed. Theyre are many licenses with lesser protections, but GPL compatible.
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>>54810923
Why has Linus not moved to GPL3 then?
Why does he take a stand against using GPL3?

>>54810958
>deflecting
Name 5 then
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>>54810923
>>54810958
just dont reply
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>>54810987
okay!
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>>54810987
>dont reply because it threatens my safe place
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>>54810976
>>Why has Linus not moved to GPL3 then?
>>Why does he take a stand against using GPL3?

Some companies got the idea to put free software on hardware, but lock it down in a way that the user isn't allowed anymore to chance the source code and run his own version. The GPLv2 didn't have any rule to deal with such a situation, so it was updated.
Linus thinks the hardware manufractors should have the freedom to use stuff like they want, (inclusive restricting the endusers freedoms).

"tivoization" is a good search term about the topic.

Well, I've enough for today. Good night.
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>tfw thought stripping metadata from pictures was a good idea
>tfw deleted all Created with GIMP comments aswell
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Is it actually better to install the last version of ubuntu? Seeing how the new one doesn't work with anything?
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>>54811405
from my experience LTS is the best default
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Installing Debian atm.

What are the comparative advantages between different DEs?
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Is there a way to run programs in emacs to preserve it's utilities? Like is there a way to run irssi in emacs to use it's useful text editing utilities?
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>>54811583
>DE
just don't
you can just assemble anything you need from various DEs as opposed to installing one large bloated env.
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>>54811594
>it's
its

I swear, I never made this mistake before the "their" meme
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>>54811583
If you're new just go with GNOME. Or LXDE if you want to be very light
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>>54811594
>is there a way to run <?> in emacs
Yes
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>>54812024
is it common to just run everything in an emacs instance if you're dealing with multiple shells and file edits?
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>>54808526
bump, any help??
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>>54811112
While I do like the GPL, the FSF, and Stallman, I think I agree with Linus on this. GPLv3 really should have been a different license, and not one that v2 upgrades to by default. I do not like devices that are locked down, but I think that the solution to that is to not buy those devices. Stopping people from using software in embedded devices almost goes against freedom 0. That said, I do think that devs should be able to use a license like that, I just don't think that v2 should upgrade to it by default.
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>>54804141
I tried copying from my SSD and got similar results. How could I diagnose an issue like this?
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>>54812740
fwiw I tried copying a 32GB file from server to client and it went at 100MB/s the whole time. Going from client to server I only get around 15BM/s though...
I am using nfsv4 and /etc/exports has:
/export          192.168.0.0/24(rw,fsid=0,insecure,sync,no_subtree_check)
/export/recov 192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,async,no_subtree_check)

(I have symlinks into /export, IIRC nfs4 requires all exports to be under the same root.) On the client fstab says:
192.168.0.100:/media /mnt/media nfs4 soft,intr,rw,addr=192.168.0.100 0 0

And /proc/mounts says:
192.168.0.100:/media /mnt/media nfs4 rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=524288,wsize=524288,namlen=255,soft,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.0.101,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.0.100 0 0
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Does fglrx work on Ubuntu 16.04?

I've got a Radeon 7870, which is kind of a mess these days. I hear talk about fglrx being deprecated, the open-source radeon driver runs like shit, and amdgpu on has incredibly experimental proof-of-concept code for it. I'd try fglrx, but historically it has been a massive pain in my ass so I don't want to install it unless I know it works.
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>>54813521
i use radeonsi (free driver) comfortably on my 7850
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>>54813535
Do you actually, you know, use it? I know it runs fine for basic desktop tasks. But not much else. About as well as onboard in my experience.
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>The fglrx driver is now deprecated in 16.04, and we recommend its open source alternatives (radeon and amdgpu). AMD put a lot of work into the drivers, and we backported kernel code from Linux 4.5 to provide a better experience. When upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 from a previous release, both the fglrx driver and the xorg.conf will be removed, so that the system is set to use either the amdgpu driver or the radeon driver (depending on the available hardware).

Well fuck me.
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>>54813692
IIRC there is a non-free firmware package that the free driver can optionally use.
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>>54801295
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>>54813655
sure, i run some games and use fancy mpv features

whether it's good enough depends on what you're using it for, naturally. the free driver is very stable, and you don't have to worry about if it's compatible with newer kernels or X
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>>54801950
>its not modern easy to understand out of box
Plebs just don't get it man. What I mean is the avg guy just coming to the linux world doesn't jive with an medium to difficult distro like Debian. Ubuntu is much easier for them, or mint.
I run servers in Debian and it is the first OS I pick every time I spin up a VM. CentOS is not that bad either.
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>>54805775
vporn lets you choose between Flash and HTML5 player
you could also sign up (costs no shekels) to download the ones you like
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>>54813998
>>54813655
oh yea, plus the free drivers have access to gallium nine, which is a huge boost when running d3d9 games in wine (no opengl conversion overhead)
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>>54810561
Get out of here with your open source shit, we like Free software here.
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Which of the distros recommended by the FSF is the most beginner-friendly (i.e. used Xubuntu for 3 months)? I want to free myself of the proprietary shackles and transcend my nonfree existence.
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>>54801295

Many thousands of dollars in that pic.
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How do I make my wi-fi connection with mint not suck? Google isn't getting me a simple and recent solution.
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>>54814200
I think I got it to work with a driver from rtlwifi.
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Is Firefox meant to support multiple monitors properly?
With the external monitor plugged in whatismyresolution.com reports the screen resolution as the external monitors resolution regardless of where the browser is. The browser's inner resolution is reported correctly.
From Chrome, the screen resolution is reported as the size of the browser window.
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>>54814148
Free distros are not beginner friendly. I'd recommend you use trisquel
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>>54812721
It only updates if you use gpl v2+, not if you specified gpl2
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>>54814148
If your computer wworks fine without proprietary software, trisquel, if not debian is the most free you'll get.
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>>54812427
Find out what DM you're using and check the Archwiki.
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Why does Ubuntu drop the wifi connection after like ten minutes of use?
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>>54806854
Could have just used about:config editing, mpv through open with, updating firefox, purging all kinds of flash, mozplugger...
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>>54814123
You forgot to click the link.
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Is there any free software that allows me extracting rar files? Doesn't have to have ability for creating.
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>>54810561
Kek
>>54816457
There is a free implementation of unar somewhere i think. Who still uses rar?
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>>54810480
Purging steam usually works better.
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>>54816231
>>54816344
Thanks. I guess I'll find out if Trisquel works on it.
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>>54816391
it usually doesn't. Have a look at your logs, there should be an error in there. Most likely the connection has a timeout for some reason. Could be for a lot of reasons. Without a log we can't tell why
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Sup /fglt/,

I'm planning on buying a new notebook this summer since my ThinkPads battery is turning to absolute shit.

What is a good distro for a notebook that's not overly bloated? I run Arch on my ThinkPad at the moment but it's always been kind of annoying with WiFi and Bluetooth not working as smooth as I would like.

Basically I want a none bloated distro with pre-configured network settings.
Is there even such a thing or should I just spend the time to properly configure the WiFi on Arch?
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>>54816775
Debian is essentially that. But less bloated and with a good TUI installer.
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>>54816775
Arch is more work than most so just pick any. Everything is going to seem bloated compared to a clean arch install.
>>54816832
>Debian is essentially that.
Unless you require firmware, in which case it's just a pain in the arse.
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>>54816832
I'm kind of bothered about the Debian repositories using such outdated software though.
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>>54816855
there is a nonfree installer for that case.
>>54816860
Use sid then.
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>>54816877
>there is a nonfree installer for that case.
Yeah I know, it didn't contain the wifi firmware I need, or at least my wifi didn't work with it and usb ports were not recognised when you can add it during the installation.
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>>54816893
You can also add it to the installer if the nonfree one doesn't contain it (which is extremely rare). the guide for this is easy to follow.
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>>54816950
I tried to and the instructions did not work.
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Hi /g/ pleb here,
I want to use a linux distro in my notebook, I did ınstalled arch with gnome, it's ok but i have some problems with it, it sometimes lags and freezes (maybe a issue with gfx driver) anyways i liked AUR and etc. As I do not have enough knowledge to fix the problems on my own i need a change. My question starts here, I definitely want to use gnome and I (ofc) want it to be up to date. So should I install LTS kernel to make arch stable (will it make it stable) or should I go for another distro. Maybe manjaro or ubuntu gnome but they dont support gnome 3.2 afaik.. So what to do?
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>>54816977
>So should I install LTS kernel to make arch stable (will it make it stable)
It is unlikely that any of your problems come from the kernel so installing LTS probably won't change anything.
I would recommend solving your problem rather than switching if you can, if it is a driver problem then you will probably have the same problem in another distro. Then again it could be a tiny config problem or something, which might just be easier to solve by using a distro that just werks.
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