Previously on: >>54581834
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dolphin's "download services" doesn't seem to do anything.... any way to manually download the extensions and install them?
>>54602019
Go fuck yourself
Why does screenfetch show "Gallium" as my gpu and not my graphics card - 750Ti.
This is a problem because programs aren't working, (steam games, etc).
What do I need to fix it? i'm using nouveau.
>>54602044
cute
>>54602053
>installs gentoo
>"help, nothing works!"
Fucking idiot
>>54602053
short-term solution: google nvidia drivers gentoo
long-term solution: install an Ubuntu variant
>>54602044
>>54602089
do you need a hug? No need to use foul language in our friendly thread.
My gnome-software still doesn't work on Ubuntu 16.04, when will the problem be solved by Canonical/Gnome?
>/usr/lib/gs-plugins-9/libgs_plugin_xdg_app_reviews.so
I saw a webm of someone using windows on gnu/linux in a virtual machine. I wanna be that guy.
How effect is it, could a day-to-day windows user be satisfied?
>>54601906
Stop calling it GNU/Linux. It's just Stallman attention seeking. He's a try-hard. He even calls himself Dr. Stallman despite only having honorary degrees. That would be like Kanye West calling himself Dr Kanye West. But he doesn't because even he knows that's pretentious.
If Kanye West is less pretentious than you, you're doing something wrong.
Stallman is a gargantuan faggot who calls himself a 'doctor' without having gained a PhD, destroys any credibility he has by acting like an ass "I'm not glad he's dead but I'm glad he's gone" and his only real claim to fame is contributing to the creation of Linux.
Without Linus and Linux the GPL and FSF would have faded into obscurity. They only reason anyone pays them any heed now is because of the (negligible) help it gave Linus back in the early days of Linux.
If anything the FSF should rename itself Linux/FSF, simply because the Linux project and Linus are the only reason anyone would pay them any attention now.
Stallman's work is just a footnote in the history of Linus's achievements. He should be grateful for that, otherwise he would be nothing.
Demanding people call Linux GNU/Linux is audacious.
>>54602053
gallium is driver
number is driver family
>>54602203
You are attention seeking.
>>54602130
looks like this is an option. Being as I've had many installs working with the proprietary drivers, but this time trying nouveau shits not "just-werking" as when you can use xconfig with nvidia.
>>54602089
this isn't a gentoo-specific problem. don't autismo-rage too hard now
>>54602205
that's what I thought, but everything requiring opengl isn't working at the moment. Just going to switch back to proprietary, not worth dealing with nouveau's bullshit honestly.
I'm accessing my Gmail accounts using Thunderbird. The problem is, Thunderbird loads the "important" e-mail folder of Gmail, but I don't fucking use this feature on Gmail, so I would really like to remove this folder from my Thunderbird. How to do this?
There is no Telegram bot for following Facebook pages?
>want to install Debian
>decide to try it in VirtualBox first
>resolution is very low with no higher options available
>also realize Jessie doesn't come with KDE Plasma 5
>Delete and create another VM with Stretch instead
>Installation step failed on 'Select and Install Software'
what do
>>54602199
it's easy as pie. Gnome-boxes for maximum easiness, then move it to a virtual desktop and switch between windows and linux with a simple key combination.
*must have some RAM and cpu resources to spare
>>54602282
Telegram and Facebook (through Whatsapp) are direct competitors. FB would block it immediately
Can someone using Arch and an Intel GPU install lxpanel and see if they get an annoying bug where the last opened window would remain "burned" into the taskbar?
>>54601676
>Heavily goes against unix philosophy imo
You're an idiot who doesn't even know what the UNIX philosophy is and a hypocrite for using other software which doesn't comform to it.
>>54602343
>FB would block it immediately
Facebook and Google are competitors, but you can reach Facebook pages through Google. Google isn't immediately blocked!
I have a spare PC I can use to test out various distros. Main caveat is that the wifi card uses a bcm4322 chip.
I tried freebsd and qubesos on it but neither worked because of this (though qubesos was the buggiest piece of crap I'd ever had to try and make work, so I wouldn't try to use it anyway).
Dubs decide which distro or OS I try next. No gentoo because that's what I'm running on my main machine anyway.
>>54602489
Antegros
>>54602489
>apparently using gentoo
>still testing various distributions and apparently hasn't realized that it's all the same apart from a few core things (for which he's not testing them)
Pathetic.
>>54602489
siduction
>>54602157
just use aptitude
>>54602489
wattOS
>>54602338
Just got the same failed step when trying to install it in VirtualBox on my laptop too.
Using the netinst iso btw
I guess I'll try to install it legitimately with an external HDD since I'm scared of partitioning, maybe it's just a problem with VB or something
>>54602338
>using the beta installer
install jessie and update from there. both the installation guide and the wiki state that.
>>54602489
TempleOS
>>54602489
steam OS
>>54602489
android x86
>>54602489
Chrome OS
>>54602489
TempleOS
>>54602489
bodhi
>>54602489
Haiku Os
>>54602489
Linux for Niggers
FTP client that isnt filezilla?
Could someone ELI5 me on what a character device is on Linux. For example '/dev/tty' is a character device I assume.
>>54602489
Elive
Lubuntu versus Xubuntu?
>>54602784
I don't get this Linux lingo
>>54602660
Check these out
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software#FTP_clients
>>54602748
If you're going for lightweight then why not just go all the way an use LXDE?
If you're not going for lightweight then why the fuck are these your options?
>>54602489
LFS
>>54602552
I want the GUI, because there I can vote and comment.
>>54602954
what exactly is the issue with Software? I remember it used to not display anything but they fixed it shortly after 16.04 hit
What's a good alternative to Sourcetree for linux?
It's great for OSX, but I'd like a similar gui for git on my linux laptop
>>54603071
wtf
This image
>>54603071
Any file manager?
>>54602660
No. You'll regret it. Filezilla is far superior to any other ftp clients.
Any books to read about GNU/Linux
Preferably ebooks (epub/fb2)
>>54603219
Filezilla is bitching about being compiled with a different version or some bullshit,even when i compilie it locally.Spent a day on it and i just need basic ftp/fxp client.The library used 3.0 (wchar_t,compiler with C++ ABI 1009,wx containers,compatible with 2.8),
and your program used 3.0 (wchar_t,compiler with C++ ABI 1010,wx containers,compatible with 2.8).
>>54603273
Ho. I never try to compile it myself. Can't help you anon.
>>54602157
thought it was fixed the week after 16.04 launch?
at least that's what i gathered from the ubungu podcast. personally just use apt because i couldn't care any less for votes and shit.
What's the advantage of a separate /home partition?
>>54603071
like tree?
>>54603435
you can reinstall your OS without loosing your files
>>54603435
If you use Arch it's totally useless.
>>54603435
Not fucking up your / dir and losing all of your data in the process. Being portable across distros
>>54603435
easier to distrohop when you are an indecisive little slut.
>>54603435
change distro or do a clean install and keep /home.
>>54603461
wat
>>54603472
By that logic should I keep a separate /etc directory? It has most of my config shit
>>54603500
But how are you going to boot everything that you need on startup if your /etc isnt there?
>>54603491
You can easily reinstall arch without an empty home folder. Arch installation process don't give a fuck.
>>54603517
How is this even fucking relevent?
>>54603500
Runsu -c 'du --si -s /etc'
and post the output anon
>>54601906
Anyone else is using fedora?
>>54603551
It was an answer to the question. If you use Arch you don't need a separate partition for the /home folder.
how likely am I to get a gf who respects her own freedoms? (like instead of netflix and chill, dvd-decrypted-via-libdvdcss and chill)
also
http://www.strawpoll.me/10240428
>>54603595
>--si
Trolling too hard anon.
>>54603598
nobody -and no distro- needs one, it just makes more sense this way for most people.
>>54603598
I dont know if this is some shitty new meme im missing out on or if you're just a fucking retard
>>54603597
sup muh nigga
was using opensuse on my desktop, but had to switch drives and decided to give fedora a spin again.
>>54603605
>ow likely am I to get a gf who respects her own freedoms?
depends on where you search.
>>54603597
I tip mine everyday
>>54603615
No. It's true. You don't need a separate partition for /home with arch. It's easy to reinstall arch with an already existing /home folder. Too hard to understand?
>>54602933
FUG :-DDDD
Time to do LFS then.
>>54602533
I see that you're new to GNU/Linux. Welcome! Your question is: "what changes between different distros?" And the answer is: "lots of things! For instance, the available packages, the amount of testing their receive, the different package versions available, freeze periods, rolling versus versioned releases, package distribution format, such as binary v.s. source, security, such has whether it's possible to fetch packages over tor, and the amounts and quality of integrity checks, as well as some software that isn't ported for other platforms, like ubuntu's jockey, opensuse's yast, subgraphos's oz, qubesos's qvm manager, package included features, package feature exclusion, license filtering, support for various init systems other than systemd (via package compile provisions), file system hierarchy, such as gobo's approach, features such as bedrock's combination and symlink management, etc."
>>54602237
Don't get me wrong, you can make Gentoo a gaming rig but if you're playing new release titles then yeah, just use proprietary. I have Windows for games and other media entertainment and Gentoo for everything else.
>>54603605
not likely too likely 2bh.
more of a chance of getting a gf with a feminine penis though.
Sometimes my shell scripts are becoming 'dirty.' Like my latest forensics script is 280 lines and personally, I don't think shell scripts should be super complex. Would it be more efficient to use Python instead?
>>54603822
>python
>ever
At least use perl. Yes, it's significantly better than python for scripts.
>>54603835
What advantage does Perl have over Python? I love the Python language I just need to learn more of it. I know null when it comes to Perl.
>>54603781
But do oestrogen/aa tablets respect the Users Freedom®?
>>54603122
Pic is Electronic tampon??
>>54603879
It has saner, stay-out-of-the-way primitives for most script-like operations, such as file, stream, socket and text processing tasks. It's also significantly more boilerplate-free.
Installing Manjaro as babby's first Linux (except for Ubuntu) on my X220T. Will the touchscreen and tablet work?
Quick question:
How can I change permission of a folder "/home/john/Documents" so all sub folders in Documents are restricted only to the super user account, and cannot be read or written to by any other account
does debian testing have bleeding edge packages or do i need to go to unstable for that?
>>54603939
700
>>54603932
You'll probably have to do some manual config
>>54603939
>/home/john/Documents
on Linux
chmod -R go= /home/john/Documents
on BSD
chmod -RP go= /home/john/Documents
>>54603978
So the current owner and group of the folder Documents is john john. I would have to do sudo chown su?
>>54603994
Yeah, I agree with
>>54603959
using chown root and chmod 700 is the best.
>>54603994
You want root to own the folder and subfolders?
>linux
chown -R root:root /home/john/Documents
>bsd
chown -RP root:root /home/john/Documents
But that's not a good idea.
>>54604032
Okay but I just ran the groups command and there is no root group, should I just go ahead and add the group 'root' and then add the user 'root' to group 'root'?
What is the best distro to run directly from a USB stick /fglt/?
>>54604032
>But that's not a good idea.
Why not?
>>54604063
Go pleasure you'reself
>>54604053
chown -R root /home/john/Documents
>or
chown -RP root /home/john/Documents
and just after
chmod -R go= /home/john/Documents
>or
chmod -RP go= /home/john/Documents
>>54604068
Why do you want documents in john home owned by another user?
>>54604103
Because on my server I do not want the user john to view the contents of the Document folder
>>54604053
Personally, I don't think you should create a root group. Just pass ownership to root and chmod 700 /home/john/Documents. This way only root has read write and executable permissions to said directory.
>>54604117
Dont put it in that folder then?
kek
>>54604117
So why is the folder in his home?
>>54603945
depends on what you consider to be bleeding edge. unstable probably makes more sense.
I am beginner to GNU/Linux.
I have been using Mint,Ubuntu MATE and some Puppy (all of them have been extremely nice and just werks in all my computers)
There is no way i am going to switch back to windows, so I wanna dive a little deeper to how things actually work in these systems.
Filesystem is so different compared to windows, no C: where OS is located etc.
What is easy way to learn what every folder in / is, and how are they used.
can somebody recommend some good books for beginner?
>>54604252
Google linux file hierarchy
My Hotkeys Super+Z, Super+X, Super+C don't work when I have Gnome Document Viewer open. Why?
>>54604252
>What is easy way to learn what every folder in / is, and how are they used.
It's standardized.
FHS
>>54604320
Because Gnome document viewer overrides them?
What they fuck they're supposed to do anyways?
Running Xubuntu 16.04 on Dell Latitude D820 with nvidia quadro nvs 110m.
Couple of questions:
- There was some issue with data mining from Amazon on Ubuntu. Does it affect Xubuntu as well?
- What solution would You recommend for cloud storage? I would prefer to be native with shell, instead working through Web-app interface.
- How do I determine that I have installed drivers for the specific graphic card? So far, after installation it runs on 1680x1050 and my additional monitor runs 1080 on D-SUB interface
>>54604340
prev, pause, next
They don't do anything in the document viewer
>>54604252
>can somebody recommend some good books for beginner?
something on rhcsa will have all that and more
>>54604355
the search thing was only for unity, and isn't default anymore.
owncloud, seafile, sftp on your vps. or syncthing in each machine.
i see the option to check drivers in the software store that ubuntu has, though i dunno what it is called on xubuntu, but i'm sure they have that too somewhere.
>>54604269
Thanks, will look in to that.
>>54604321
Thanks.
>>54604375
Thanks.
>>54602570
After doing this and restarting, it now goes to a black screen with a cursor after login and stays there until I eventually get this
>>54604638
forgot image
>>54604652
Use vmware instead of virtualbox. Also don't bother with debian, it's never been and will never be stable in the sense everyone else uses. When they say stable, they mean "doesn't change", not "doesn't break".
>>54604418
Seems, I'm good here with drivers.
Thanks for the heads-up.
Whats the best GNU Linux OS to dual boot with windows 10 Except Arch since ive tried arch but confusing for a newbie to linux
What are the names of the softwares needed in GNU/Linux to extract .tars, compress/decompress .zips and compile stuff? I did a minimal install and now I can't even extract a damn .tar.gz, I'm so stupid!
>>54604865
tar, zip, and make
>be me
>use xubuntu as a desktop
>it's full of bugs
How can people use this garbage? And this is one of the popular distros that's on a LTS release which makes it even worse. The bugs I searched are old bugs that should have already been fixed when I'm reading a post dating back to 2012 on the forums. Are all distros like this? Broken unfinished mediocre alternatives to something actually worth using? What distros are actually useable?
>>54604911
>Are all distros like this?
No. Gentoo is unironically rock-stable.
>>54604865
On Debian and derivatives just install the build-essential package.
>>54604911
You fell for the following meme:
>>54604227
After using the filechooser in chromium around 5 times posting shit on here,it just goes blank and unresponsive and has to be force killed
>>54604911
I used Xubuntu 16.04 since release and apart from the shitty compositor and the initial bug in Gnome software I literally encountered no bugs whatsoever
>>54602979
It does not open.
>>54603353
Not fixed here. What have I done wrong?
I need to downvote shit and comment "sage".
>>54605080
Not him but it doesn't install in ssd. nvme_load=true parameter does not work. Also xfs installs are not bootable at all
>>54605043
I chose Xubuntu to avoid shit like that. Not everything works as simple and swimmingly as in that pic.
>>54605080
It's not how many people get the bugs, it's how many bugs they actually fix. All of these bugs could have been around for ever but still gets ignored.
>>54605115
well I can't speak to that, I only have a regular HDD and I did a stock install
>>54605146
>>54605142
This may trigger you but Arch works just fine. So will ANY manually installed distro
>>54604702
Just use anything
>>54605193
why the hell would that trigger me? I freely admit I can't be assed to put in the work to build and maintain an Arch build so I use the babby distros. The buggiest so far for me have been Fedora and Mint, funnily enough
>>54604702
Dualbooting may cause issues in time settings, just a heads up. Set timezone to localtime
I need help with gentoo :(
I am having trouble attempting to login (using kvm to boot) after a fresh install. After some googling I came to find out about etc-update, dispatch-conf and pam.d; I ran this:emerge --info sys-libs/pam ; cat -n /etc/pam.d/{login,system-local-login,system-login,system-auth}
and pam.d does not have a login or system-login file. Do I write these myself?
update
after runningemerge -uDNpvworld the script returns this:
https://ghostbin.com/paste/qwkt2 but I still cannot login after boot
I'm at a loss here, pic related
Does anyone know why GTK apps are broken for me? It's been like this for a few days.
Monitor suddenly wouldn't recognize my default resolution, so I added some xrandr --newmode, --addmode, -s stuff to my xinitrc. Everything works now, but a lot of the GTK apps are broken now.
>>54605272
Whats broken?
Font size?
>>54605272
>GTK apps are broken
Here is a hint
>>54605294
Pic was related, that's my firefox next to my thunderbird.
I've been using Arch for a few months. I like it, but I don't really need to be that bleeding edge. Although I do quite like not having to reinstall it every 6 months. Is there some rolling release distro that has more mature packages than arch? Or am I better of just using Ubuntu?
>>54605324
ubuntu server
>>54605315
Again,what is wrong? Nothing is out of the ordinary
Lower your interface size in thunderbird
>>54605272
I had a similar issue just today with Chromium, Virtualbox, GIMP and others in Kubuntu
can you play around with DPI scaling in some setting? This fixed things for me
Is there a distribution that gives me exactly what Ubuntu does but also lets me be self righteous about how much I respect freedom (even if it has proprietary software I'm fine as long as it does not have amazon tracking in its history)?
>>54605429
trisquel fits that to a tee.
>>54605429
>install gentoo
it's really the only way to go
>>54605457
But completely free kinda worries me, I just want to be pretentious. Is it as trouble free as Ubuntu, do you have experience with it? I'd appreciate any feedback.
>>54605496
I served my time for being a wannabe haxor in Arch. I just want trouble free OS with not a shady past.
>>54605511
no experience with it.
i'd say if you are so worried about that, just go debian. no one has to know you enabled nonfree repos to get your rinky dink wireless card to work
>>54605355
Ah! Thank you! xrandr --dpi 90 fixed it!
>>54604908
>>54604988
Thank you. I'll check the content of this build-essential package and note down the names of the softwares so I will never forget.
>>54605429
See >>54601906
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
>http://fglt.nl/guides/picking-a-distro.html
>>54605511
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=trisquel
>decide I'm going to use this summer getting adept at linux
>install fedora in VM
>decide I'm going to try changing the window manager
>spend hours reading and following tutorials for installations
>none of them work
man this sure is fun
>>54604702
try mint.debian or some *buntu
>>54606251
Then you literally cant read.
>>54606330
I literally read several tutorials and literally followed each explicit instruction.
>>54606338
Then you literally cannot type what you literally read.
Literally that easy
>>54606369
>and literally followed each instruction.
Looks like you're the one that literally can't read.
>>54606376
Then it would be working would it not?
>install wm/de
>put wm/de in .xinitrc
start wm/de
done
>>54606398
Or perhaps none of the guides/tutorials that I read even remotely mentioned something like that.
All they said was to open the terminal and install via various sudo dnf commands, after which some said nothing, and some said to just restart.
>>54606431
wiki.archlinux.org
You must literally suck at literally typing literally anything literally relevent to your literal problem in to google.
Are:
schedtool
prelink
preload
irqbalance
verynice
ananicy
placebo/meme?
>>54605324
Gentoo bro... I'm never going back to anything else besides Gentoo, FreeBSD, Slackware but those are just for tinkering. I'll stick with Gentoo. We even have a new SSL that other distros don't even have it's awesome. The devs work closely with Grsecurity as well.
Would you guys say Arch with spectrwm or Debian with spectrwm is better? If it matters it's going on an old Asus U56E with a 7620 dual band wifi/bt card that will be using iwl driver set.
>>54604252
http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Command-Line-Complete-Introduction/dp/1593273894?tag=duckduckgo-ffab-20
>>54606462
To be fair, it hasn't worked too well for me trying to get i3 to function even when updating the xinitrc config. Xorg works np. But it wasn't wanting to run. Probable that it's due to not having activated GDM yet, but there is literally no mention of DMs or their necessity in the Arch wiki on WMs
>>54606864
Do you mean Debian unstable or stable? In either case I'd still pick Arch though, given the options.
>>54606907
I'm open to pretty much anything, I'm looking to do trial by fire to force myself to learn the inner workings of whatever Linux distribution I run and my computer for how the kernel and everything interact. The goal is a minimal system that is fast and utilitarian for school/learning (currently work in IT and going to go for a degree focused on Cisco Networking as well as more certs focused on linux, networking, and security)
>>54606903
You dont NEED dm's at all
autologin user
autostart x
x starts ic from .xinitrc
autolock with various standalone lock programs
type password if you used a locker
boom
i3 right up in your fucking face
I just installed i3,default package nothing else
hopped on another tty
login
x starts
boom
works
perfectly
>>54602222
nice quads
>>54606942
arch
How do I change screenfetch display colours. Tired of the red yellow white default ubuntu.
Also, whats some good customizations to do? A place to start (tutorials) for some good WMs or DEs?
I need to write ftpaccess lines to accomplish a 10MB download cap per session, anon login sessions timing out at 30 minutes, and blocking traffic from no-laws.org.
data-limit in 1048576
limit-time anonymous 30
deny now-laws.org
Does this look correct?
Hi i want linux to pretend that i m not windows user and that i m weeaboo kissless and neet in desktop threads so reccomend me the nicest linux pls so i can shitpost more efficiently
>>54607399
Arch GNU/Linux
How do I install Wobbly windows onto my ubuntu? Do I need to install linux before that?
Why does my comp use so much memory? Freaking Cinnamon man...
>>54607737
switch to xfce, don't uninstall your distro, just switch to another DE
>>54607737
because you have 2 gb of ram in 2016 where everything is bloated beyond belief.
i been running openSUSE tumblweed for a month now and I love it.
One question: how the fuck do I install things without having to use the yast software manager?
im trying to find a way to open encrypted files that I used to use for truecrypt. Is there an alternative for lelnix?
Without linux, windows would have gone to shit as they would have nobody to compete against. They would literally taking a crap and selling it.
Bill Gates is actually doing this btw. He is working on making drinking water from sewage. As I said, microsoft are selling crap.
>>54607211
read the man page/documentation
>>54605271
Sup we've, nice deliver on baph
>>54607737
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
>>54607737
Run top in a terminal and sort by the memory column, use > to shift selected column
Sup /flt/, I downloaded AutoKey since I want to rename a few things by copying and pasting and was thinking of condensing pasting, tabbing, using home, end , and other keys in one stroke. Problem is that I can't find any examples. With AutoKey, it would need to be something likekeyboard.send_keys(key1)
keyboard.send_keys(key2)
...
keyboard.send_keys(keyn)
?
Why not record one instance of what I do and make the script itself? Fuck.
>>54604252
>>54608940
This is pretty much everything worth knowing for Linux.
Note that /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/lib, /usr/lib64 are smybolic links to their root equivalents(/bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64) on Linux. This is often not the case on other Unix systems. GNU/Linux doesn't have a well defined "base system" like other Unix systems which means there's little point in distinguishing these different directories from one another, the really only exist for compatibility with software from other Unix systems.
>>54606950
Maybe I just am not recognizing the interface of the WM due to seeing others that looked different due to installs. I do startx and I get a WM so maybe it is i3 and not just xorg
After fighting with xorg for a fucking eternity I finally got it working on a shitbox I'm trying to repurpose for netflix on my TV
Only to find out Chrome (the easiest way to watch netflix on linux) only exists in 64bit now. Thanks, google. You fucking asshats.
So I expected to have to go through every annoying step again, this time on a 64bit install.
Only now I immediately kernel panic on a fresh install of 64bit Xubuntu. Any ideas that would cause this?
>>54608890
>record one instance of what I do and make the script itself
xnee does that (or so says the package description)
>>54609659
Fucking newfags reinstalling every time they have a problem. What is multiarch.
>>54609897
I literally had to, fucknuts. I installed 32bit because there was no reason to install 64bit.
Only now I have to install 64bit because chrome only works in 64bit.
Eat a dick, you presumptuous fuck.
>>54609915
hurr durr reading comprehension https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
>>54601906
Does anyone know when Trisquel 8 will be out?
>>54609955
Wow except that's the literal opposite of my problem, fucknose.
I needed 64bit operation on a 32bit system, which is strictly not possible.
>>54609432
>Note that /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/lib, /usr/lib64 are symbolic links to their root equivalents(/bin, /sbin, /lib, /lib64) on Linux
You've got that backwards. Even then, not every distro does that.
>>54610046
Yes it is I am running on one right now. Install a 64bit kernel and boot into that (works fine with a 32bit userspace), add amd64 architecture to dpkg, install 64bit libs alongside the 32bit ones.
>>54609915
>>54610046
Why the fuck did you install a 32-bit operating system on a 64-bit computer?
That's just fucking retarded.
>>54610051
Even though Debian kinda agreed to go along with the /usr merge it isn't actually by default, you have to install the usrmerge package. Go freedom of choice and optional standards I guess.
>>54609659
Go fuck yourself, if you were less of an edgy retard maybe we would have explained how to enable multi-arch without ridiculing you. If you are friendly and ask nicely, we try to help you and be nice to you. This is why this thread works.
>>54603239
Anyone
>>54610328
The other person replied with a whole thread of torrents for a lot of books. I think this should be enough books for a month.
>>54610350
These are videos anon
>>54610089
> Install a 64bit kernel
Holy shit wow the /entire reason I had to reinsall in the first place/
I'm not going to play 900 questions with troubleshooting instead of just loading up a native 64bit kernel
>>54610104
Because it had less than 2GB of RAM, I don't fucking know, it was a shitty decision?
>>54610323
>>54609955
>>54609897
Cry harder that I'm not bending over to your insults
>>54610383
There are videos aswell but there is a giant mega link with pdfs.
Also read the debian administrators handbook and download the gentooman library.
>>54610418
>Because it had less than 2GB of RAM, I don't fucking know, it was a shitty decision?
There is literally no reason to use 32-bit over 64-bit unless you have to run a bunch of 16-bit x86 software for whatever reason.
64-bit does use a tiny bit more RAM, because of larger pointers, but 2GB of RAM is not a constrained amount of RAM. Also, 64-bit x86 CPUs have a whole bunch of extra instructions which allows compilers to generate better code, meaning that the performance is probably going to be better.
Installing spectrwm and gde now. If anyone has pro-tips that are commonly missed for configuration of these two please post em
>>54610605
Here goes nothing
>>54610605
>tfw i never heard of those
Am I not hipster enough?
On a more serious note, how is it? Any neat functionality?
>>54610678
So as before, I can get xorg to run, but cannot get spectrwm, nor can I get i3 to run. So ducking annoying
>>54610783
Boom, solved it.
>systemctl start gdm
Booted to login screen, selected user and session. Fucking win.
Now to enable so it autostarts on boot
>>54610813
systemctl enable gdm
>>54610754
Both are "dynamic wm"
I3 is a "ricer" Window manager that people can customize pretty easily and in depth from what I've heard and read.
Spectrwm is supposed to be clean, simple, low overhead, and still relatively customizable.
I'm already enjoying the auto-placement of windows with spectrwm far better than xorg's shitty function for window placement and adjustment
>>54602660
curlftpfs
>>54610827
Yup already handled that.
Now the fun of figuring out between wiki and trial how to enable the whole "wireless bonding" so that my ether net and WiFi adapters are always on and autoconnect to known wifi/any ether net for pain-free connection
>>54610783
What wm is running in that screenshot? Also if you just start Xorg up with xterm as a client (and no DE/WM) you can just start you wm from that terminal, that may help you see any error messages.
how do i change ubuntu/debian to use an old kernal
ayy fags, I need something to do.. Im speed my nuts of and installing virtual machines.
Should I try and Install Arch?
>>54610868
Xorg.
Basic bitch vanilla install of arch xorg.
It's fucking awful.
Started gde and logged into spectrwm now and it's fucking amazing by comparison dude
>>54610868
TWM
>>54610899
no balls anon, you won't do it
>>54610868
TWM, it became the default window manager for X at some point and hasn't changed since. X usually ships with it.
>>54610956
Fuck you nigger <3
>>54610973
huehuehue <3
what should i set my background to for my new wm environment? something dark and simple
btw, at work tonight, we had a huge segment of our WAN drop off due to some asshole updating a blacklist policy from a 3 year old e-mail. shit was so cash lol. the WAN techs spent 6 hours working the issue before he piped up and said, oh that was my bad guys, just reverted my blacklist and shit's fixed now.
30000+ users due to "human error"
>>54610877
Pick one from snapshots: http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/
You can also add the repo for that date to sources.list
>>54611037
for the date? i don't follow
I'm thinking of dual booting Linux Mint to my W10 PC. any pointers?
>>54611159
dont. get a spare hard drive and make a separate boot and mod the bootloader in the BIOS to allow selection after POST
windows 10 has the same fuckky shit for boot protection that windows 8 had
>>54611082
The instructions are here http://snapshot.debian.org/
Or you can just download the .deb and install that using dpkg -i
Then you can change the value of GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub so you don't have to select a thing in the grub menu each time (and update-grub if you do change that)
>>54611169
I've got a spare notebook drive lying around so that's easy enough.
My girlfriend isn't too tech savvy so she wants something as close to Windows as possible. Any other distros that are easy to use?
>>54611207
ubuntu is cake, so is MATE, stay clear of Arch and Gentoo and Kali
>>54611261
Alright I'll take a look at those and Mint. Thanks.
>>54611286
no problem anon, have fun.
Its bedtime for me before the wife wakes up and realizes ive been up for an hour and a half after i got home from work.
had to tinker with the laptop and flesh out this install a bit though.
>>54611033
Pic is my botnet 10 desktop
Imma try and start arch on a VM but shit man.. Im like skid tier when it comes to the cmd line.
Well one way to learn.
>>54611207
Mate and Lubuntu are cool imo. I installed Mint on a VM but its security has been kinda raped recently
do you think that the GNU Deamon Shepherd can compete with the systemd init in the future?
>>54611985
What are you on/ trying to do m8?
>>54611599
>Imma
are you black?
no?
then stop
>>54612387
Went to an all black school niqqa... Last day of highschool before I graduated, 2 black chicks fighting in the lunch room, good half an hour, weave everywhere
>>54612232
I'm trying to start an interesting discussion about the future of init systems on GNU/Linux. and since the rest of/g/ will only throw memes all over the place i think another thread wouldn't make sense.
>>54612609
>guile
>interesting
not really
I need to write ftpaccess lines to accomplish a 10MB download cap per session, anon login sessions timing out at 30 minutes, and blocking traffic from no-laws.org.
data-limit in 1048576
limit-time anonymous 30
deny no-laws.org
Does this look correct?
Not sure what's going on, but I can't boot after isntalling the ubuntu netinstall? The regular cd works fine in uefi. THe netinst install fine, but then doesn't boot after. I'm at a loss here
So I have to ask for those of you who really must use Windows (people who don't need not apply)
What choice would be better for you, buy extra RAM for this GPU passthrough thing or just dual boot?
>>54613268
at what point does the boot fail? what do you see on the screen?
>>54613324
dual booting is less of a hassle and less expensive.and i don't "must use" windows. I just like modding and playing video games.
>>54613334
after it installs, when it prompt's me to reboot, I do so and after the BIOS I just get a black screen. I did notice that during the install it recognizes the usbdrive I have the installer in as sda, and my hard drive as sdb. I made sure to install on sdb, and the bootloader too, but maybe it's acting up after that?
>>54603513
Version control, son.
>>54613363
well if the bios goes to sda then that means it is bootable and the next thing that should happen is grub is run from the mbr, which isn't happening or you would either see the grub menu or it crying about not finding the /boot drive. sooo you need to boot into a live disc and re-install grub to the internal hard drive
