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Welcome to BSD General. This thread is open to all things BSD including comparison to GNU/Linux and beginner inquiry.
Interested in trying BSD? Security and open source oriented users should check out OpenBSD. The most common and server-minded distro is FreeBSD, which PC-BSD has forked for desktop users. If you want to use a BSD OS and the installation/configuration doesn't appeal to you consider Apple's OS X in a virtual machine or Mac computer.
For more info on BSD and an in depth comparison to GNU/Linux head here:
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/01
muh easy packages
>2016
>not using OpenBSD
Who 5.9 here?
>>54501027
>If you want to use a BSD OS and the installation/configuration doesn't appeal to you consider Apple's OS X in a virtual machine or Mac computer.
Fuck off shill.
>>54502957
Not me. Couldn't get internet to work, even in a VM. The DHCP auto config didn't work
>>54502957
me
its pretty good
Why would I use BSD over GNU?
can it run steam? (but not any games, just need the chat)
can it run discord chat?
Is it faster or anything than Linux?
>>54503233
fun and discovery
>>54503280
>can it run steam? (but not any games, just need the chat)
freebsd can, through a linux emulation layer which should work 1:1
>can it run discord chat?
is it open source? if it is, it most likely can
>Is it faster or anything than Linux?
never compared it myself
>>54503302
>pain and frustration
ftfy
>>54503326
not the operating system's fault that you suck
da fuck does bsd stand for
>>54503348
Berkeley Software Distribution. The name comes from the fact that it used to be Berkeley's own distribution of UNIX but Berkeley has not been involved with the development of the BSDs since CSRG was disbanded.
>general
>>general
>>>general with a copypasta
Kill yourself, OP
>>54502957
Yeah, I upgraded from 5.8 to 5.9 pretty soon after it came out.
>>54489289
>>54489289
Also had some conversation last night.
Just started playing with FreeBSD in a vm, so far, I think I'll just stuck to muh linux.
>>54504361
Why so?
>>54502957
here
>>54503280
FreeBSD can run most things. OpenBSD can't run a lot of things.
Honestly I used FreeBSD for a while and it felt like linux. So if that's what you're going for then there's that.
OpenBSD feels different and I think I like it.
>>54503280
you can use steam chat in the browser if you didn't know.
I run pfsense and nas4free, but I've never actually bothered with a ground up bsd.
Shit's glorious for turnkey appliances. I've been investigating the internals of aforementioned appliances, I'm hoping to make a bsd based appliance to act as a cert authority for LANs and shit.
Anyone actually able to run GNOME on OpenBSD? GNOME always crashes as soon as I login.
>>54506708
Yes
https://www.bsdfrog.org/tmp/gnome320.webm
>>54506708
how'd you set it up?
Or hackintosh. You could try hackintosh which nowadays works fairly well.
don't fall for the OpenBSD meme, use the real user friendly bsd, FreeBSD.
>>54507066
Installed gnome via pkg_add, and did:rcctl disable xdm
rcctl enable messagebus avahi_daemon gdm
Then added "multicast=YES" to /etc/rc.conf.local.
I just get the sad face and "something went wrong" When I start gdm. This is on an old laptop with an intel gma. I assume it's something related to graphics drivers because the same issue happens in Virtualbox.
>>54507437
keep in mind GNOME3 needs 3D acceleration, maybe your GPU is too old for that
Reminder that OpenBSD has backdoors in it, ignore OpenBSD shills and use FreeBSD.
>>54507459
Yea I'm thinking that may be the case because XFCE works. I thought my GMA4500 would be supported.
>>54507470
reminder that you need to switch up your bait
>>54507459
>>54507473
I checked http://man.openbsd.org/intel.4 and it supports GM45 chipsets, damn I'm not sure what is wrong. I might try current and see if it works.
>>54507496
to be fair, GNOME3 on openbsd isn't even supposed to exist, it's full of hacks because freedesktop sucks and made it depend on all the systemd bullshit
i never got GDM to work either, but i didn't really care because i just log in from the console
cuck license tho
>>54507510
>depend on all the systemd
is openbsd using systemd? do you even know the meaning of the word "depend"?
>>54507540
did you read my post at all?
GNOME3 on openbsd is full of hacks to remove the systemd shit from it
>>54507510
running gnome on openbsd is kind of missing the point, no?
it's like buying a T60 and covering up the ibm logo with an apple sticker
>>54507558
yeah, openbsd taught me that i really didn't need all that shit
i pretty much just use cwm with the X utilities like xclock and xterm and that's enough for me
>>54507546
>full of hacks
it's called programming, you worthless monkey shit
>>54507558
yeah, you're supposed to throw the computer away after you install openbsd, nothing works anyway
>>54507546
>vlc is full of hacks to remove win32 shit from it
>>54507582
yeah that's why every part of GNOME3 has like 60 patches because it totally works without those, right?
>>54507593
desperate
>>54507608
do you really think GNOME devs work on the openbsd port of GNOME?
no, they don't
gentoo had to make similar efforts, too
>>54507626
>waaaaaaaaaah
>they should work on it
>waaaaaaaaaaaah
>muh entitlement
fuck off, cuck
>>54507609
>it totally works without those
correct
>>54507662
>he searches for BSD threads just to get into meaningless arguments about shit he doesn't know anything about then calls people cucks
didn't your post get deleted by a janitor earlier?
>>54507674
>then calls cucks cucks
ftfy
>>54507686
well at least you don't link to trollaxor or aboutthebsds anymore
>>54501027
been running i386 FreeBSD server (web server) since version 5, mostly it has been a breeze to maintain, stability is top notch, 3 commands major version upgrades, etc.
>>54507593
OpenBSD is an insecure piece of shit. Stupid thing claims to be secure yet refuses to support FreeBSD features like jails.
>>54507770
stop responding to yourself
>>54507778
Stop being so delusional
>>54507810
notice how the post count doesnt increase
>>54507778
pajeet fuck off
Which BSD is the best for a beginner?
GhostBSD?
>>54507816
whoops, meant to say poster count
>BSD general
>all a bunch of mudslinging by a bunch of underage little fucks that probably don't use *BSD or GNU regularly
>HAY GYZ I INSTALLED *BSD/GNU ONCE IN A VM IM GOING TO SLING SHIT ABOUT THE ONE I DIDNT INSTALL K
>>54507828
FreeBSD, has great help, look it up.
>>54507843
>BSD generals
>a barneyfag-grade autist shits it up for years
>>54507845
Thank you, i'll give it a try.
>>54507816
>>54507829
That's because I made my first reply earlier in the thread stupid. Are OpenBSD faggots really this stupid?
>>54507874
http://www.freebsd.cz/doc/handbook/
>>54507896
sure you did
the poster count never increased all the other times you made epic cuck jokes either
>>54507909
stay off the pills fuck tard
>>54507921
don't you mean "cuck tard" xD
>>54507905
Is FreeBSD the best as a desktop OS too?
I'm not a unix professional, Ghost and pcbsd look like more user-friendly
>>54507967
you may also try PC-BSD for desktop
>>54507967
openbsd is the best desktop OS since the devs actually use it on bare metal
>>54507975
which is based on FreeBSD
Are BSD package managers as good/fast as Arch's pacman? Also, what about font rendering? Do you just configure freetype and is there Infinality?
>>54507989
>Are BSD package managers as good/fast as Arch's pacman?
they're alright
>Also, what about font rendering? Do you just configure freetype and is there Infinality?
no infinality, but could probably be ported if someone was willing to put effort into it, since it's just a patch set
>BSD General
>Ordinary reply
>Couple help requests
>"Fuck OS X, not even BSD bro"
>Muh GPL
>cuck license kys
>*incoherent GNU trash intensifies*
Every. Fucking. Time.
>>54507851
What barneyfag tier autist are you talking about?
>>54508079
the one who's been posting here for a year or two who gets really triggered by BSD
>>54507984
>based on applecuckBSD
ishyggy
>>54508616
butthurt license freetard
>>54508990
>confirmed cuck
>>54509021
>>54507845
o sup shatner
>>54501027
> pin-up
I heard BSD runs some proprietary shit in their kernel though. Is that true? I'm interested in trying out BSD distros, but shit like calling yourself "OpenBSD" while not all of your source code is open/free seems sketchy.
>>54509721
OpenBSD doesn't contain binary drivers but it does contain firmware images. The difference is that firmware runs on the actual device while drivers run inside the OS. OpenBSD could ship without these images but that would just cause some computers to not function correctly, it's not very helpful. OpenBSD devs recommend that you simply not buy hardware that relies on these images so they never have to be used. They provide the images anyway just in case.
For a driver to be included in OpenBSD the devs must have access to its source code and the source code must be permissively licensed.
>>54507593
>implying you can't use a computer without a shitty, bloated and frankly unnecessary DE
If you must go full retard - Xfce and Lumina work flawlessly and aren't steaming heaps of freedesktop garbage.
>>54509720
Go watch an anime, faggot
I've been a linux guy for the past couple of years. But I wanna try BDS. What do I choose?
>>54509996
*BSD
Can we replace stallman with theo? GPL is for communist cucks.
FreeBSD 11
- bhyve Improvements
----Initial support for booting Windows guests (r282281)
>>54510038
I second this proposal
>>54509996
They're all a little different but usually people recommend either FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
FreeBSD functions the most similar to GNU/Linux but also has jails and ZFS and some other neat stuff.
OpenBSD takes a little more time to get used to. OpenBSD is usually used as an appliance like a firewall or a basic server because the OS was written with very strict quality standards.
>>54510038
>I prefer to be cucked by apple
>no bash by default
Dropped. sh and csh both suck ass.
>>54510526
Bash is GPL, of course none of them would ship it with their OS. You can always install it yourself but the BSDs recommend not changing the root's shell.
>>54510579
>GPL, of course none of them would ship it
stop lying
>>54510610
are you 14 ?
>>54510730
are you?
>>54510610
Bash is GPLv3+ anything that links against bash would have to be relicensed under GPLv3+. They're not going to bend over backwards just to change the default shell to bash, install it yourself.
>>54510802
>anything that links against bash
like what?
>>54510838
Potentially all or most of the OS. A shell talks to the kernel I believe.
>>54510893
>I don't know what linking is
>I don't know anything about GPL
>I don't know how copyright works
ah, standard applecuck, just say so
>>54510893
OMG! Bash works on windows too so windows must be GPLv3+, right?
Are you fucking retarded?
>>54510914
>GPL faggots rely on memes like cuck and have no ability to argue.
>>54510935
>told hard
>b-but meme
>BSD
For what purpose? Linux too mainstream now?
>>54510044
I'm excited, I'd like to go the hypervisor route with PCI pass through instead of dualbooting just for muh occasional games.
The only issue is my motherboard/cpu don't support VT-D so I'd have to upgrade just for that, the i7-930 is still good so I'm in a bad spot. CPU is too good to require an upgrade but it's missing a feature that I want.
>>54510038
Make some kind of group, Theo + Jordan Hubbard + whoever best represents NetBSD.
can I use the same boot partition for linux and bsd?
how about same swap partition?
which fs should I use/ you can recommend?
are the optional installed docs of freebsd enough to configure?
>>54510931
You mean the ubuntu thing? They're shipping it as a separate download and bash probably communicate either through a layer or a stripped down linux kernel.
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#MereAggregation
GPL actually does have an exemption for "Mere Aggregates". Basically software with dissimilar licenses can be combined into one package and shipped as a product as long as the GPL licensed software does not link against anything with a GPL incompatible license.
>>54511027
>a stripped down linux kernel
you just went full retard
>>54511027
>Mere Aggregates
Tell it to this worthless shitstain >>54510893
>>54511025
This article has information about multibooting Linux, OpenBSD and FreeBSD systems
http://geodsoft.com/howto/dualboot/
I've never attempted it myself, I'm pretty sure you should be able to share the swap partition between each OS
What is the Ubuntu of BSD?
>>54513110
PCBSD. It is an "user-friendly" version of FreeBSD, which is already pretty easy to use in the realm of BSD. If you just want something linuxy go for PCBSD, however if you want something that just werks and is BSD go through the effort of installing FreeBSD.
>>54507582
>"programming" is producing backed up kludgy shit
GPL code monkeys everyone
>>54513553
>"backed up"
hacked up, fuck
I'm going to leave now
>>54513591
back to itunes, aplelcuck
>>54510526
openbsd-pdksh > bash
>>54513110
PC-BSD, but there is a literal UbuntuBSD as well
>>54510038
GPL is socialist, not communist.
Communism is anarchism, and the only thing compatible with that would be the public domain, or at worst, a BSD/MIT licence.
>>54510526
>needing bash when ksh can do all the important things bash can do
(You)
>>54511025
The optional docs package you see during installation is mostly historical stuff in FreeBSD. But in your MOTD you'll see info on how topkg add
the actual handbook, which is also available on the website.
>>54510526
tcsh > bash
>>54502957
I've been test driving OpenBSD on an extra ThinkPad of mine. Things were going okay until I tried YouTube. Videos were skipping and freezing. Googled it and found threads talking about people who use youtube-dl instead. Is this really a thing? I'd like to switch over but this might kill it for me.
>>54516518
I would just use your video player of choice
>>54516534
So there really isn't a way to browse sites like YouTube normally. Is FreeBSD like this?
>>54516694
>So there really isn't a way to browse sites like YouTube normally
I really wouldn't know, I use my video player to watch videos regardless of operating system, and have never used FreeBSD.
>>54516694
OpenBSD does Youtube fine for me in Chrome, but not in Firefox.
>>54516694
I've never had YouTube shit out on a BSD before, it actually performed better than Linux on my IBM T60
>>54501027
sauce on that picture ?
>>54517009
Sindy The Altoids Devil Girl
>>54517009
She was used in some Altoids promo material in the mid 2000s.
>>54517057
>>54517058
thank you friendos
>>54517058
>it will never be the mid-2000s again when it was okay to be edgy
>>54516518
Patch the kernel. Change Kern.hz to 1000.
>>54518559
you dont need to patch the kernel for that
it's a sysctl value, i believe
this thread is filled with more shit than the gutter on pajeet street
>>54509721
firmwares. it's not a big deal. if it is to you may as well buy a T400 with libreboot or some alternative hardware.
>>54509721
they used to have an option to disable them but they'd have freetards flooding their mailing lists with "why won't my hardware work"
now they just recommend you get hardware that doesn't need proprietary firmwares
also the "open" refers to the collaborative nature of the project
>>54504361
Try OpenBSD. It's much better. Unlike FreeBSD the developers actually intend for you to use it as a desktop system.
>>54507470
Oh, have you found it, finally? Be sure to document it, and let Theo and the mailing list know. They've been looking for it for years now, as well as numerous third parties. It's hard to believe that you've managed to find it, when everyone else has turned up nothing, so you should be quite proud of your auditing skills. That's the wonderful thing about open source code though. It gives a far greater number of people the chance to pour through it, find problems, and help sort them out.
>>54519508
Just looked up the specs on the T400. It has a Core 2 Duo? That'd be a huge downgrade from my current setup. Can you recommend me something a little more modern that's open hw?
>>54507473
I installed OpenBSD + Xfce on an old Dell (P4) that I rescued from the dumpster at work. It worked right out of the box, and I didn't have to do anything special. It worked quite well too. The PC originally had XP, which was slow, sluggish, and looked like complete shit. OpenBSD + Xfce runs so well that it's easy to forget just how old it actually is. I've since switched to Fluxbox instead though, because it's even lighter on the resources, and I just prefer using it anyway.
I don't care for Gnome personally, so I've never bothered trying it out on OpenBSD. I have heard numerous people say that it just acts wonky on it though. Whether that's actually true, I couldn't say, but I do know that KDE works great on it, and it's also pretty demanding on resources and shit too.
>>54507540
OpenBSD doesn't use it, but Gnome does. A lot of software is going that route, which is ultimately going to make shit systemd Linux only. So much for freedom.
>>54501027
Just bumpin´
>>54508586
Wallpaper? That's gorgeous.
>>54502957
>not 6.0-beta
>>54521747
but stability
>>54520178
RISC-V, but there are no RISC-V desktops yet.
I'm waiting warmly for the day in which I can use open-source hardware, with no firmware or hardware backdoors and trojans.
>>54521747
>beta
>>OpenBSD
>>>beta
Did you mean OpenBSD -current?
>>54516764
>I really wouldn't know, I use OSX
>>54519901
>use it as a desktop
INNOVASHUN!
>>54520034
>wonderful
cuck license tho
>>54520232
>OpenBSD + Xfce runs so well
linux is even faster
>>54520378
>OpenBSD doesn't use it, but Gnome does
Then how does Gnome work on OpenBSD?
>>54523939
your mind finally broke
>>54523966
by hacking and patching it
>>54524021
>depends
m8...
>>54524014
>DELETE THIS
yeah, you really should, because you're making yourself look more and more insane every thread
>>54524049
>pls no bully
>>54524063
i think you put that meme arrow in by accident
>>54524072
>pls stop, my ass hurts
nah, you're gonna keep getting raped, that's your purpose, cucks!
>>54524086
>post retarded bait in threads
>gets proven wrong every time
>h-ha c-cucks!
every time lmao
>shit power management
>slow as fuck
>no drivers
Yeah, BSD sounds great!
No, thanks.
>>54524098
it's funny that the IP counter never increases whenever something like this is posted
>>54524094
>proven
INNOVASHUN!
>>54524103
see? all you can do is post meaningless stupid shit like this now
truly mind-broken, and on par with barneyfag
>>54524113
>proven
you sure proved to be a cuck :^)
>>54501027
>BSD general
>image is some tranny looking thing instead of maki
Well, OS X is ultimately based on BSD, so it makes a little sense?
>>54524102
>shit power management
>slow as fuck
>stuck in the 90s
>no drivers
>no software
>never getting better much to the joy of "home sysadmins" that do nothing of value
>``but bloat''
>no such thing as free lunch famalam
>>54524113
>OpenBSD
>meaningless
anon...
>>54524121
worst bants i've seen
>>54524128
nothing you're writing makes sense
>>54524138
>nothing
>BSD
>>54524147
it just makes me laugh because you've been doing this for two days
>>54524138
>I can't into logic
>>54524158
there's no logic besides you trying really hard by saying "INNOVASHUN" over and over every thread
>>54524098
That's definitely why Netflix and every other large company uses FreeBSD servers.
>>54524152
>makes me laugh
so does everyone when they hear BSD
>>54524164
do you speak english
read your own post
>>54524161
>I'm really this dumb
>>54524172
yeah you are
>>54524162
>every other large
>every
aplelshits actually believe this
>>54524128
OpenBSD is a meaningless OS, but a valuable project.
>>54524162
Because they're too jewish to get the most out of linux.
Car analogy: BSD is a honda civic. Linux is a rally car you hired a team of mechanics to tune for you.
>>54524177
>got told hard
>must damage control asap
>w-what do?
>l-let's pretend I'm a retard
ok
>>54524188
>thinks he told someone by going "INNOVASHUN KEK XD"
loving every laugh
>>54524178
>every other
>>reading it as just every
Every other means 50%
>>54524181
>BSD is a honda civic with no driver
ftfy
>>54524199
>thinking it's an OSes fault instead of hardware companies' fault
(You)
It will become the OSes fault once all hardware is open-source.
>>54524197
>50%
>aplelshits actually believe this
>>54524205
>once all hardware is open-source
You BSD tards really are deluded.
>>54524215
but i thought you supported the GPL and thought BSD was a cuck license ;^)
>>54524215
I only said that was a necessity, in order to blame the OS.
I never claimed it would occur.
Of course, capitalists (the only people who'd use the GPL) don't want it to occur.
>>54524205
>pretends it's not the OS fault
>linux is doing fine tho
why is that?
>>54524228
because ironically the linux kernel has blobs in it despite the fact that it's GPL
>>54524221
>thought you supported the GPL
Are you mentally ill?
>>54524237
i don't know, are you?
who has been spreading FUD in these threads for a year?
>>54524228
Because hardware producers who make closed source hardware get to whitelist exactly which OSes they want to support.
>>54524244
>i don't know
I believe you are if you tie GPL to open hardware.
>who
Anon? Oh, you thought this is a private conversation on whatsapp?
>>54524236
just like openbsd
>>54524261
>I believe you are if you tie GPL to open hardware.
we're talking about drivers, you dumb nigger
the linux kernel has a lot of blobs in it, in fact, i'd say linux users are far more "cucked xD" than openbsd users because if a driver breaks, they're fucked and can't do anything about it
>>54524249
Why do they want to support linux but not bsd?
>>54524273
>we're talking about drivers
You are mistaken, we were talking about open hardware, might want to check your reading comprehension.
>more "cucked xD" than openbsd
>because if a driver breaks
Driver that OpenBSD doesn't even have?
>can't do anything about it
Neither can OpenBSD.
Do you even logic?
>>54524298
>trying to reason with cucks
m8...
>>54524298
>Driver that OpenBSD doesn't even have?
i think it's funny that earlier you were saying you weren't the same guy who was spreading FUD then you start spouting the same rhetoric again
IP count still isn't increasing, fucktard
>>54524275
Because it means they can keep their hardware closed-source.
>>54524307
>it's funny
You were the one saying that linux has a binary driver that OpenBSD doesn't have, are you fucking retarded? Why do you keep dodging follow-up reasoning? Maybe because you're just spewing random drivel that doesn't make any sense? Re-read your own damn post >>54524273
>IP count still isn't increasing
This confirms your brain is shit.
>>54524350
Why can't they keep their hardware closed-source with bsd? Isn't bsd more "proprietary-friendly"?
>>54524407
They can't keep it closed-source unless they actually spend time on making drivers for other OSes.
With closed-source hardware, they run a whitelist of what OSes work. When they add more OSes to the whitelist, it takes more work.
If their hardware was open-source, the OS devs could spend their time on making the drivers, and the hardware company wouldn't have to spend time on it.
The only reason to support less OSes is to keep something closed-source.
>>54524421
>unless they actually spend time on making drivers for other OSes
Why do they spend time making drivers for linux but not for bsd? >run a whitelist of what OSes work
Why isn't bsd in the whitelist?
>If their hardware was open-source
I didn't ask what happens if the hardware is open source.
(Jesus Christ, you have to be spoonfed the same question in 2-3 rewordings, you're incapable of reasoning for 2 seconds on your own)
>>54524449
Because they want to pick as few OSes as possible, so they pick the most popular ones, or the ones with consumers whom have loose wallets.
The BSDs, by numbers of desktop users, are less popular. That is a fact.
>>54524470
>The BSDs are less popular.
Who's fault is that?
>>54524478
Good question. I don't know. Popularity and quality have never been positively or negatively correlated.
cf. Microsoft Windows
>>54523948
>a 12 year old's vocabulary
>a 12 year old's mentality
>>54524298
>Neither can OpenBSD
A large portion of the drivers in OpenBSD were created by and are maintained by the devs on the OpenBSD project.
I'm looking through the OpenBSD packages right now and wondering do these ever get updated? Everything is dated 2/26/16.
>>54524478
Bell Labs
>>54525848
Yes, they do get updated. Once they are ready (and providing that the maintainer is still willing/able to do it).That is to say once they've been tested, and the updated packages pass OpenBSD's standards of correctness. This isn't Arch. We don't push out shoddy updates just to have updates.
If you are too impatient to wait on the package maintainer(s) to do it, you are free to build it yourself from Ports, or maybe even create and maintain your own package (most packages are maintained by people who want to use that given software personally, and they are kindly making them available to the community as well). Just don't expect the community to openly embrace your package if you can't be bothered to do things correctly.
>>54524478
AT&T lawsuits, FSF marketing, primarily nonvocal userbase.
Popularity isn't really a concern for the BSDs, a lot of GNU people have political reasons for using GNU so it makes sense for them to be pushing it heavily, BSDs are already heavily used in the domain they target so there's no real need to divert attention from engineering into marketing. This is true even for Solaris, how often do you ever hear about it yet it's used in a lot of businesses, in addition to that not everyone advertises what they use either so there's even more. It's not like Oracle or Joyent don't have the money to push that shit hard either, the pushing they do is targeted and small while still being effective, they don't need to reach out and tell the world when not everyone needs their products. Even the FreeBSD foundation makes more than their asking price in donations annually but there's never any marketing for it, it's all just conventions and business meetings when it comes to marketing, they're more interested in paying for training courses and developer salaries.
>>54526723
The main one was probably the lawsuit. No one wanted anything to do with BSD during the lawsuit, all the devs just went with linux instead, especially since the GNU userland was mostly complete anyway.
MINIX also existed but Tenenbaum wanted it to remain strictly for academic purposes and not become too complex where it couldn't be taught in a class setting.
>>54508586
wallpaper? she's so cute anon, but i can't find anything on her : /
>>54523928
How retarded are you?
>>54512085
>>54515869
thanks for helping
>>54516518
>I've been test driving OpenBSD on an extra ThinkPad of mine. Things were going okay until I tried YouTube. Videos were skipping and freezing. Googled it and found threads talking about people who use youtube-dl instead. Is this really a thing? I'd like to switch over but this might kill it for me.
>BSD and Linux in a nutshell
keep this shit on servers where it belongs
fucking autists
>>54529892
OpenBSD is intended for use as a desktop OS, there's no reason not to use it as one.
Fucking autist.
>>54529963
>use openbsd
>it's osx but totally broken in every sense
>bugs and quirks and problems everywhere
>battery life gets cut down to 1/3 of original
>m-muh apple sucks... install openbsd...
delusional losers on 4chan everyone
>>54530035
>things that never happened
>>54530088
>bsd and linux are buggy shit on desktops
>"never happened"
top kek
>>54530100
I've been using OpenBSD for three years and have yet to run into an issue. Just because you're retarded doesn't mean everybody is.
>>54530124
>become fanboy of obscure garbage tinker toy OS
>when people point out its flaws you can't help but insult them personally
what kind of mental illness is this...?
>>54530152
Why are you here if you don't want to discuss *BSD? You've got like 100 other threads to shitpost in in this board alone.
>>54530179
I do want to discuss it, just without a bunch of mentally ill weirdos shitposting and acting like it's the holy grail of operating systems. It's impossible to discuss tech and software here nowadays because people are so fucking stupidly polarized. Get over yourself, jesus christ.
If I want to setup something like SDF for my community, should I go with OpenBSD, FreeBSD or NetBSD?
SDF runs on NetBSD. I'm concerned about security the most.
>>54530198
>install OpenBSD
>lol guise it sux
You're obviously doing nothing but shitposting.
OpenBSD users what DE do you run? I tried Gnome but it is crashing under load.
>>54530687
I just use fvwm
When are we getting an OS X clone of a desktop environment for BSD?
>>54531264
Forget a clone I'll just be happy with a global menu bar
>>54530687
Xfce and Fluxbox. Can confirm that KDE works good too though.
>>54508586
Now that is a sexy wallpaper. Source?
You cunts do realize that BSD was used by the government to make DARPAnet so it could literally emasculate every whisky drinking dick swinging virile male, these are the men who killed japs for fun then came home and beat their women into givng blowjobs, but BSD changed that. It turned you all into a bunch of weepy fucking japan loving flaccid cocks fantasizing about Uncle Sam raping you. where have all the men gone
>>54530687
fvwm, especially since I'm on Nvidia.
I'll try Lumina after their 1.0 release.
>>54532350
where have all the good men gone and where are all the gods
>>54530220
NetBSD is pretty secure. It's not exactly known for security but it implements many of the same mitigations that OpenBSD is known for. The thing is NetBSD is not very well known in general, it tends to get overshadowed by everyone else. You can sort of view NetBSD as a cross between FreeBSD and OpenBSD but I consider it a little more tricky set up compared to either.
>>54532487
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and I turn
And I dream of what I need
>>54508586
what wallpaper is that i can't find it on Google or Wallhaven
>cuck license
>>54534843
>drake
>tumblr filename
>cuck meme
worst person of the year award goes to you
>>54535010
>tumblr filename
bwahahahahaha, these cucks never disappoint!
>>54503233
So you can conclude from your own experience that bsd is not near as good as linux, and you shouldn't listen to bsd shills again. They lie.
>>54508586
sauce on the sexy pirate butt background?
>>54532350
Replace BSD with Linux or any other OS it's not change a sense.
But I don't care due it's just one part "bad" of freedom.
Freedom is only freedom to do everything you want.
>>54501027
OS X reporting in!
>>54536450
Correct. Freedom is only freedom when it is absolute.
>>54508586
Source on wallpaper?
