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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
If you dislike a headphone suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, brand x sucks"

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Link to old thread: >>54212445
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1st for sacrilege

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Wondering if I should roll some heatshrink over the mic and headphone cables
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my advice request from last thread
>>54230005
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>>54231146
It would be more aesthetic and less likely to snag.
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>Budget
Up to $100, pretty flexible on price, but lower is better.
>Location
USA
>Source
Amazon prime preferrably
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds preferably, need to have a microphone in-line
>Open or closed
closed, but N/A to earbuds
>Preferred tonal balance
Relatively flat with slight bass emphasis
>Preferred music
Math rock, IDM
>Past headphones
Beyer 990 pros, sennheiser 598s
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Who /IE80/ here?
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Looking for a comfy and cheapish over ear phones for listening to music and watching movies and stuff in bed
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>>54231235
>closed
>earbuds
You mean IEMs? RHA MA750i
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>>54231361
>RHA MA750i
It doesn't have to be closed/IEM, just was following the template blindly
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With Sennheiser 650s, would Objective2 + ODAC be "good enough" if you don't want to solder your own tube amp?
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>>54231649
O2+ODAC is already endgame unless you need extra outputs.
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>>54232186
Already, I'll go for it then.
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>>54231649
yes for sure. The HD650 does benefit from higher quality amps, but the o2 + odac would be more than good enough. Nice set up.
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just bought
AKG K 240 Semi-Open Studio for 60 on amazon is their anything better thats the same cost or cheaper i did very little research so any suggestions while i can still cancel are appreciated
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Are Audeze headphones really that bad? X's sound right up my alley but I don't want the thing to shit out on me within two years. Might just go for the new 800S but I don't want my ears to bleed.
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>>54232674
Ether is better than the LCD-X. Not to mention LCD-X is 600g.

HD800S treble isn't ear rape anymore but is
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>>54232723
Shit.

HD800S treble isn't ear rape anymore but is still brighter than the other two.
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>>54232723
Thanks for the suggestion. Any idea reliable Mr. Speakers headphones are?
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>>54232800
When I auditioned them, they were quite sturdy incredibly light, considering they are planar. The only plastic part is the slider thing to adjust the headband. Pretty sure it also comes with a hard case.

They will last.
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>>54232849
Any chance you've tried out the 800S yet? Between the two, would you go for the Ether's?
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>>54232950
Yeah, I have. The Ether is more neutral, HD800S is still very much a HD800 with a bit of a boost in low end and less piercing highs. Of the two, I found the HD800S to be just a little more comfortable because of the amount of space in the cup, but the Ether is still a very comfortable headphone.

>Between the two, would you go for the Ether's?
Personally, I would go for the HD800S because I'm a detailfag. It just depends on your preferences. Best thing you can do is find a place where you can try them both out and decide for yourself.
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>>54232358
I own the K240. Really it depends on your priorities. I find the K240 very comfortable because of its headband design. I think it's perfect for watching movies and TV at 3 in the morning when you don't want to wake the neighbors and can't use speakers. But I personally wouldn't use it for music because tonally it's kind of a mess. (To be fair, I'm comparing it against much more expensive stuff-- for $60 it's not bad.)

I just ordered some Beyerdynamic DT series velour pads for my K240 too. That's gonna be deliciously comfy.
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I know I'm going to get so much shit but I kinda want the BW P5 Wireless headphones. Kinda what a sturdy wireless headphones thats not too big. Anyone know where to get cheap that ships intl? Was looking at amazon

I gave my MTH 50s away to a relative because long term use hurt my head/ears.
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>>54232358
hd 668b is basically a k240 (measures very similar) for $10+ less. also has a better cable system.
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So why don't any of you people use STAX? You can get into a baby STAX rig (including amp) for $520. What's your excuse for not doing it?
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>>54233009
Ah okay. Would consider the 800S to be more airy and musical as well?
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>>54233046
>>54232358
I own the 668b and the K240 (this is me >>54233018.) I would say the 668b actually sounds better, but it's so uncomfortable (even with changed pads) that the K240 is better anyway. Superlux sells another headphone with a more K240-like headband system, I haven't tried it but you should consider it too.
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>>54233076
I can't into audiophile memes like "airy" but I did find the HD800S more enjoyable. Again, this is a preference thing. The Ether is good if you want sheer neutrality and want to hear what is recorded as is.

>>54233072
Getting a proper seal is a hassle on the Lambda's. Am yet to try an SR007 or 009, might go audition them soon.
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>>54233136
Alright thanks a lot man.
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>>54233072
If you're going Lambda why wouldn't you buy a used LNS?
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>>54233136
>The Ether is good if you want sheer neutrality and want to hear what is recorded as is.
Not the same anon but are you the same guy who prefers the HD800S because you are a "detail fag?" I'm kind of confused as less detail would be less of "what is recorded as is."
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>>54233136
The traditional remedy for this is to upgrade to SR-507 lambskin pads, although that's an extra $60. I'm not ready to make that leap yet, although I probably will. The SR-207s sound pretty good as is though. Out of the box they sealed so well that they trapped air around my ears and I felt like my altitude was changing. That got better as the pads broke in though.
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>>54233186
HD600 is more neutral compared to K702 but the K702 reveals more. Same thing with the Ether.
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>>54233185
The bundle with the SRM-252S amplifier was a fantastic deal. $520 bundle includes an amp that usually costs $450 in the USA. That's what made it worth it to me. If I already had an electrostatic amp (and I do now,) then maybe I would try to find some of the more exotic STAX stuff used.
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>>54233225
>HD600 is more neutral compared to K702 but the K702 reveals more
Said noone ever.
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>>54233123
yeah I agree, the 668b does sound a bit better. the superlux with the more AKG-like headband is the 681 and 681-evo. if you want a 668b with that headband get the samson sr-850, though the cable is fixed on that I think. I actually don't mind the wings on the 668b, you just need to have to confidence to bend them and the frame the right way. different pads helps too.
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>>54233338
I did bend them almost straight up (see pic.) It helps but now they don't stay put on my head, I still think the clamp is too heavy, and the wings are still annoying. I just think the Superlux fundamentally disagrees with the shape of my head.
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>>54231315
Hopefully nobody.
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>>54233225
What a stupia thing to say
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>>54233225
I suspect you may be using terms like "detailed" and "neutral" in ways they are not meant to be used.
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>>54233225
>>54233294
>>54233403
>>54233433
>>54233445
I can't weigh in on this particular comparison, but it makes sense that a headphone could be both more detailed and less neutral at the same time. Emphasized treble tends to bring out details, and a better transient response might improve detail more than tonal neutrality would.
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>>54231202
668b/sr850 or save up for a 558.

>>54231282
se215 though I guess that depends on your definition of "slight bass emphasis"

>>54233401
tried bending the whole frame? you have to use a lot of force and make sure you're holding the middle of the frame so you're bending both sides equally. if I hold mine loose the pads don't touch each other now. yes it feels loose on the head but that's fine for me. though my 598 replaced the 668b for gaming and I have better headphones for music now so they don't get a lot of use. 598 blows everything away for comfort.

>>54232800
more reliable than their main planar competitors hifiman and audeze, that's for sure. ether is one of the only "end game" headphones that isn't overpriced IMO.

>>54233072
they just seem so finicky what with special amps, easy to damage, stax fart, weak bass, and frankly they don't look like they measure well enough to be worth it. so at that point I'm just taking a gamble on "realistic highs" and other buzzwords.
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>>54233487
>Emphasized treble tends to bring out details
no, it doesn't.
>and a better transient response might improve detail more than tonal neutrality would.
K702 have anything but a better transient response compared to the HD600.
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>>54233487
>Emphasized treble tends to bring out details
The point it emphasizes yes and while it masks the rest of the spectrum.

>transient response might improve detail more than tonal neutrality would.
Essentially given by the frequency response.
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>>54233487
>>54233225
just look at the v6, extremely detailed and revealing, far from neutral. depends on your definition of detailed I guess. accuracy is of course reveals the detail in a recording but coloration can enhance the perception of that detail, how apparent it is. that's why some highly regarded monitoring headphones are far from neutral.
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>>54233519
>just look at the v6, extremely detailed and revealing
>this is what poorfags actually believe
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>>54233492
>tried bending the whole frame?
Ehh, maybe. Like you said, I've already moved on and I have better stuff now. Maybe I'll keep trying to improve them on a whim someday.

>they just seem so finicky what with special amps, easy to damage, stax fart, weak bass, and frankly they don't look like they measure well enough to be worth it.
FWIW I have no complaints with the bass on my sr-207s. They're not bass cannons but they're not lacking IMO. If you look closely at the measurements, electrostats have a trick that lots of dynamics lack, which is that they dig deeper into the top octave. Most conventional dynamic headphones and even planars fall off a cliff after 10K or so, electrostats can go higher than that. (Although still not as high as a speaker with a real tweeter.)

>>54233495
>K702 have anything but a better transient response compared to the HD600.
Like I said, I'm not trying to weigh in on this particular comparison.

>>54233503
>Essentially given by the frequency response.
Depends how it's measured. A simple sine sweep that graphs measured SPL against input frequency doesn't actually verify that the headphones are playing the note they're being asked to play. Also, if the driver is ringing, it may not show up in a frequency response because a steady sine wave signal may "hide" the ring.
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>>54231067
Should probably add to the pastebin or OP that earbuds and IEMs are different things. There is occasionally some confusion regarding the two.
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>>54233519
MDR-V6 is a good example actually. It's mostly pretty neutral but with an emphasis around 10K.

>>54233537
I own much more expensive stuff, and I still love the MDR-V6.
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>>54233563
if you actually think the v6 is extremely detailed and revealing, you haven't heard anything that actually is.
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>>54233562
There's little reason to suggest earbuds over IEMs.
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>>54233576
I've never heard anyone call the AKG K612 or STAX SR-207 un-detailed. Yes, they both handily beat the MDR-V6 for detail, no question, but the V6 is very good for the money and I still find its sound charismatic and enjoyable. Plus it's closed, so you can use it in situations where the other two aren't useful.
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>>54233551
>that they dig deeper into the top octave
I appreciate that but as someone who generally prefers dark, bassy, and warm sigs I would probably unbox it and be impressed, then immediately roll it off some in eq because I would find it fatiguing.

>>54233562
I feel like euros keep calling IEMs earbuds. very few people actually want REAL earbuds.

>>54233563
>I own much more expensive stuff, and I still love the MDR-V6.
same

>>54233576
or maybe it's hard to accept some headphones like the v6 are 90% of the way to the top in terms of raw detail. if you buy expensive headphones chasing the "hearing new things in the recording" meme, you're going to be let down. not saying headphones can't be better in lots of ways, but detail usually isn't a big one.
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Is MDR MA900 still highly regarded around here?
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>>54233630
yes
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>>54233600
Should have reworded it. There are usually people who say earbuds in the form when they can't distinguish between traditional earbuds and in ears making it a little bit of a hassle recommending something.
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>>54233618
>>54233625
post your 'expensive, extremely detailed' headphones you are comparing the v6 to
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>>54233625
In my experience, upper mids are more fatiguing than treble (see: AKG K612.) And anyway, the STAX has much less emphasized treble than the MDR-V6, it just goes way higher. Still, based on your description of your preferences, electrostats probably aren't for you, although it wouldn't hurt to audition one.
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>>54233647
I did-- AKG K612 (a little bit more expensive) and STAX SR-207 (a lot more expensive.) Both of them are more detailed and revealing than the MDR-V6, but they don't humiliate the V6 IMO. Well, maybe the STAX does a little bit.
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>>54233644
When they say earbud I ask if they want IEMs as it is simple to assume that is what they meant.
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>>54233665
>I did-- AKG K612 (a little bit more expensive) and STAX SR-207 (a lot more expensive.)
i thought you were joking or just naming random headphones, sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt but yeah, you don't know what extremely detailed headphones sound like. those are still bordering on entry level. it's adorable that you think otherwise though, i'll give you that.
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>>54233684
If you're comparing the V6 to headphones that cost $500+, of course the more expensive ones are going to be better, that doesn't make the V6 bad. The V6 absolutely punches well above its price bracket, which makes it a very good deal for people who don't want flagships. Or did you just come here to brag about how much money you have?
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>>54233716
>The V6 absolutely punches well above its price bracket
not at all.
>Or did you just come here to brag about how much money you have?
no i'm just calling you out for overhyping the v6 as some sort of super underpriced miracle in that price bracket when it's just another contender and isn't particularly better than something like the nvx xpt100
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Can someone reccomend me a reliable quality Bluetooth audio receiver so i can just earbuds and headphones into it?
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>>54233728
The V6 massacres the XPT100. Not even close.
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>>54233684
it's adorable that you fell for the 1k+ "end game" meme. I mean returns scale perfectly with money, right? no. you have no idea what entry level means and buying "the best" is literally throwing money away in most cases. I bet you would buy a ps1000 or an edition 10.
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>>54233743
nice opinions and shilling products you own. it has a different tonal balance, it does anything but 'massacre' the nvx.
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Is HM5 pads what I should buy for Tascam TH-02? I'm one click away from buying one from mp4nation for $17.

Is it this one? Or the hybrid HM5 pads?
http://www.mp4nation.net/brainwavz-hm5-thick-memory-foam-earpad-suitable-for-large-over-the-ear-headphones-1pc

I don't really want new pads but these HM5 pads are discounted when used with the code 25apr16.
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>>54233749
spot the upset poorfag
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why so much recommendations for the XPT100?

I bought them and as it turns out, it has the most non-existent bass I've ever heard
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>>54233751
I own the XPT100 too. From that perspective there is no conflict of interest making me want to hype one headphone over the other. The XPT100 isolates better and has amazing pads. But sound-wise it doesn't hold a candle to the V6, not even a little bit.
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>>54233551
>doesn't actually verify that the headphones are playing the note they're being asked to play
Minimum phase.
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>>54233774
xpt100 has a better tonal balance, incredibly low bass distortion which absolutely annihilates the cancerously high levels of bass distortion in the v6 and better transients.

that isn't even including the superior comfort and value with detachable cables and easily swappable pads, which you get a second set of.
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>>54233738
You're looking for a bluetooth adapter?

http://smile.amazon.com/Antec-Portable-Bluetooth-Receiver-Headphones/dp/B00LS550F6
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>>54233649
yeah I want to try some good ones. also I tank the upper mids and highs a good bit on my v6.

>>54233728
>isn't particularly better than something like the nvx xpt100
yes it is, even if it's not as balanced overall. same for the m40x. and I like both of those headphones. v6 is better.

>>54233768
are you that guy who can afford all the head-fi memes because he lives on the designated shitting street?

>>54233772
they're a bit bass light but not by a huge amount. they'll sound that way to you if you're used to more boosted bass. try open ATH for real nobass.
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>>54233799
>yes it is
prove it.
>are you that guy who can afford all the head-fi memes because he lives on the designated shitting street?
no, why are you so upset you have to resort to projecting your welfare? v6 are not special, nor are they better than headphones in their price bracket.
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>>54233799
>bass-light

more like whisper bass
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>>54233805
sounds like you got an improper seal or you came straight from beats/m50x
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>>54233817
The 80s called. The want their memes back.
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>>54233783
>xpt100 has a better tonal balance,
If you find an emphasis around 10k to be inherently inoffensive, then yes. Otherwise the V6 is far flatter. It doesn't have the XPT100's peak at 1K or its "euphonic" detail-killing 5-10 dB rolloff over 2K.
>incredibly low bass distortion which absolutely annihilates the cancerously high levels of bass distortion in the v6
Lower bass distortion, sure. Cancerously high, no.
>and better transients.
Nope. That is the exact opposite of true. Much more higher-frequency noise in the impulse response of the NVX. The amplitude of the ringing on both headphones is about the same, but the duration of the ringing on the sonys is shorter.
>superior comfort
No. The NVX has amazing pads, but the two lines of stitching down the headband put pressure on the top of the head and increase the stiffness of the headband, making it almost as if the headband has no padding at all. Also, the MDR-V6 is FAR lighter than the NVX, making it overall much more comfortable.
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>>54233863
Sorry, meant to say "offensive."
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>>54233863
>Cancerously high, no.
>30% THD @ 20Hz @ 100dB
i take it you love grados.
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>>54233893
The MDR-V6 is almost 15 dB down at 20 hz. If you're listening to music at normal volumes, you will very definitely not be hearing 20 hz at 100 dB (or 90 dB for that matter.) That measurement is very misleading because no one will actually hear the v6 distorting 20 hz that heavily unless they run a very aggressive bass-boost EQ.
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>>54233933
which brings us to the point of the nvx xpt100 being much more eq-frriendly.
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>>54233942
Nice dodge/subject change there. Anyway, that's great if you EQ. I don't, nor do I find the V6 needs an EQ.
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>>54233959
what dodge? the v6 has high bass distortion and heavily rolled off bass which is a coloration right there.

all you've been doing is damage controlling and haven't given a single reason as to why the v6 'massacres' the xpt100 because there is absolutely nothing to suggest that and if anything, measurements suggest otherwise.
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>>54233970
The V6 has rolled off bass. The NVX has rolled off everything above 2K. The V6 is +/- 2.5 dB from 40 Hz to 4 kHz. The NVX is +/- 7.5 dB over that same range, if you're as generous as possible with how you interpret the graph. The NVX measures like a very typical "consumer premium" recessed-upper-mids/treble headphone. Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you want, but the V6 is more neutral, less colored, less pandering headphone.
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>>54233970
>>54234020
Put another way-- the V6 is rolled off in exactly two octaves of the audible range (20 hz to 40 hz, and 10 khz to 20 khz, plus a notch at 5 khz. The NVX is rolled of in 3 and a bit octaves (2k to 4k, 4k to 8k, 8k to 16k, plus a bit more after that,) plus notches at 300 hz, 4.5k, 7k, 10k, and 10.5k.
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Just had an interesting thought. Why doesn't anyone make a Bluetooth adapter that plugs into headphones with detachable cables? Ireland boom micso to work with other headphones that don't use a standard 3.5 plug?
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Are portapros still the go-to for budget portable headphones?
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>>54234337
Of ksc75. Same drivers but without the headband.
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good EQ plugin for OSX?
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Will using a extension cable degrade my sound quality?
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Hello /g/entlemen,
is the Audio Technica ATH MX20x any good ?
I would use it for video games and music-listening purposes.
Thanks in advance.
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>>54234615
It shouldn't, unless you pair some very impedance-sensitive IEMs with a very, very shitty cable. Even monoprice-level extension cables should be fine.

>>54234320
They exist. Try to find any small battery-powered Bluetooth adapter and it should work.
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>>54234894
I own the M30X and I think it's fine-- I've moved on to bigger and better things, but it's good for what it is. M20X should be okay too. Try to find a used pair of the M20X, you should be able to save a fair bit of money that way.

For gaming you could definitely do better though. Not much soundstage in the M series.
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>>54231067
>>>54234320
>They exist. Try to find any small battery-powered Bluetooth adapter and it should work.
There are generic adapters that run a wired connection between the adapter and the headphone. There's a $11 version I linked earlier in this thread. I m talking about an adapter that does away with the wire and plugs directly into the headphone's detached cable port.
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>>54234951
If you have a headphone with the Superlux style of detachable cable (i.e very small male-terminated fixed cable) then it works. Otherwise get a gender-changer adapter.
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>>54234914
Okay, thanks.
Maybe you have some recommanded headsets in the price target ? (max 70$)
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>>54231067
>very small male-terminated fixed cable
I know it works on a cable. Even a "very small male to male cable." That has nothing to do with my question of why no one has made one that plugs directly without any cable.
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>>54235131
The thing about headsets (headphones with built in mics) is that they're always way overpriced (and the cheap ones are shit,) to the point where it's cheaper to buy a normal headphone and add a mic yourself. For example, you could get a headphone with detachable cable and then get a cable (such as the V-Moda Speakeasy, although there are cheaper options) with an inline mic. There are also microphones you can clip onto your headphone cable or even attach by magnets to the ear cup (such as the antlion mod mic.)

See this video for some ideas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fD-M1F6L4g
Although, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, I find the Superlux 668b hideously uncomfortable on my head and would skip that recommendation. The Samson and 681 mentioned elsewhere might be better.
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>>54235261
That's still a wire. It is merely a wire in a very thick housing and makes the connection indirectly rather than a direct connection.

Why are you still talking about this when it has nothing to do with the device I am talking about?
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>>54235292
Depends whether you care about a device which will do the task you're asking for, or if you have additional stipulations on top of that for some reason. I don't see why you should be religiously opposed to a gender changer, it shouldn't impact functionality at all.
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>>54235219
Oh yeah, and those California headphones sound like ass, don't get those either.
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>>54235322
>Depends whether you care about a device which will do the task you're asking for, or if you have additional stipulations on top of that for some reason.
The bluetooth adapter will do what I'm asking it for. You agreed that the technology is there. That it works. I'm asking why hasn't anyone made a version that doesn't rely on wires. Why hasn't anyone made a bluetooth adapter that plugs directly into headphones with detachable cables.

Hell, big name manufacturers who use proprietary ports rather than a standard 3.5mm could even put a brand tax on it and sell it as an accessory to the headphone. Get a beige and brown 598se and want to go wireless? Buy this $25 accessory that gives it bluetooth connectivity.
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>>54234337
I've heard the Portapros. IMO they're not worth $40. Back when they were under $30, it was a fantastic deal on a set of headphones that sounded way better than they had any right to. Deep sub-bass and treble were missing, but everything else sounded really good. The pads were kind of scratchy and gross, but for the right price I could live with that.

But then people noticed how good a deal it was, the portapros got a lot of positive reviews, they got overhyped, and now they're overpriced.

I'm actually toying with the idea of getting the Sportapros, which are the exact same driver in a $20 headphone. Supposed to be less comfortable due to a firmer clamp though. I will report if I buy them.
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>>54234914
>I own the M30X and I think it's fine--
>M20X should be okay too
It's also perfectly possible they have nothing in common sound wise.

http://goldenears.net/board/5718239

Other than the notch in upper mids it's pretty decent.
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>>54235571
The M series has a reputation for being pretty well scaled.
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>>54235647
Never heard anything of that.
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can lightning damage my headphones?
like not getting struck but from residual electricity in the air
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Is there a decent guide on how to understand frequency response graphs? I have no idea what to look for, and it's the main thing used to judge headphones.

When people say something like "there's an annoying spike in the upper mids" from where did they learn this?
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>>54233185
Weeabo faggot
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>>54236070
http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-measurements-explained

What I do is just look at the graph after auditioning headphones and look for patterns. After a while, you do get a feel for what the graph sounds like.
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>>54236070
We can help you out here but Innerfidelity has a decent guide on the basics >>54236274

Frequency response is by far the most important measurement in any headphone or loudspeaker.

Headphone/Loudspeaker requency response plot tells you:

-How loud the frequencies are relative to each other from the same input level
-Bandwidth of the system

The "upper mids" is a section of the frequency response(fairly loosely defined, I'd say 1-4kHz) and a spike refers to the shape of the response in that area, obviously a sharp elevation.

Headphone measurements are often displayed with a compensation the where the measured frequency response adjusted on a specific target and then normalized to it. These compensation curves vary a fair bit and understanding what compensation is used and when is important.

The idea of compensation is to give you a better estimate of how the headphones' response is actually perceived by your ears. In the case of the common diffuse field compensation the response is relative to how a measurably flat pair of loudspeakers would sound like in a room.

Raw responses are available in some places and show how the headphone measures without any compensation. Useful for comparing different sets of measurements to each other from different sources when you don't know what compensation is used.

There's a lot of stuff to understand about psychoacoustics, measurement couplers, compensation/smoothing, factors affecting the response and how all of this is perceived by you.
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>>54235361
Because they also trying to sell wireless headphones?
$25 is a bit optimistic, Noble got a bt adapter + a short cable with their 2 pin connector, it's $100.
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>Budget
$200ish
>Location
AUS
>Source
Straight into my Macbook Pro, and into my desktop. Would be willing to invest in one of those mixers for my desktop if they're not too expensive and make a difference
>Preferred type of headphone
Normal headset type?
>Open or closed
Closed back for sure, hate other people hearing what I'm listening to; freaks me out
>Comfort level
Comfort > Sound
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutural
>Preferred music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrO9PTpuSSs
>Past headphones
I used a pair of wireless Logitech G930's, got so used to the surround sound + their sound signature. Put have been using my desktop less and laptop more so I've literally been using my Apple Earpods as my main pair of headphones

Have heard good things about the ATH-M50x's so I was considering going them https://www.storedj.com.au/products/AUD-ATHM50XMG?gclid=Cj0KEQjw0dy4BRCuuL_e5MeqmNABEiQAq8iNI895bCbgk_AU9HJYIEs78bkzTL6wze5ipefBERkYPEoaAqjc8P8HAQ (they look sexy as fuck as well)

Also I was looking into investing in a decent pair of earbuds for my phone and when I can't be fucked wearing a headset, any suggestions? As mentioned I've just been using the stock apple earpods but would be willing to invest like $60ish in a nice pair of earbuds if it meant better sound + comfort

Thanks in advance
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>>54236445
Thank you
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