When did you outgrow Unix, /g/?
>>54225661
Same time I grew into OS X, the true heir to Unix
>>54225690
This, when I saw Sun employees with macbooks I knew there had to be something to it.
>>54225690
So you haven't yet?
>>54225822
nice meme rajesh
>>54225834
I'll take that as a yes.
>>54225846
Why would I outgrow the worlds most advanced operating system?
>>54225867
Ah hahaha nice meme, but an operating system with filesystem and memory management technology stuck over a decade ago can't be called "advanced", let alone "most advanced".
>>54225961
I slurp Linus cock.
NIce scheduler asshole. :^)
I was never into Unix to begin with. It's a little before my time.
>>54225661
enjoy your curry and get back to your java slave work
>>54226050
>he never ran Slowlaris
Why are you on /g/?
>>54225661
I was never really even in Unix, so I guess never. Unix-like system called Linux is my choice currently. I don't even really see why there still are other systems but I'm assuming it's because people have the freedom to make poor choices if they want. I just hope they are making the choice with a free will instead of being force fed with no mention of alternatives existing.
>>54225961
An operating system that needs to be restarted every time you do fucking anything can't really be called advanced, haaaa. Fuck off, winshill
>>54226177
>never ran Unix
>assumes that people who choose Unix are making bad choices.
So you make your choice in the blind, huh?
>>54226203
Nice myth.
>>54226289
So you can do windows updates without restarting?
>>54226300
Can you do updates without recompiling the kernel?
>>54226300
So much this
>>54226275
Linux is a gigantic global project aiming to be an excellent system. If there's a competent person someone on this planet having an internet connection he or she can start improving Linux. It's like recycling, people gather to make something right and better for everyone. What could possibly be a better alternative for it? Something from a single company controlled by NSA?
>>54226414
A POSIX compliant UNIX is a good start.
>>54226359
lol rekt
>>54226359
>tfw I can
>>54226359
Most people don't compile their own kernels, it is downloaded in binary form. It's updated very infrequently, and it's the only time you need to restart your system.
>>54226359
The kernel is only a tiny very little relevant part of the OS, you retard.
That's why it's called GNU and not Linux btw.
GNU/Linux is a compromise because retards clung to code-monkey Torvald's kernel name.
Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
See Windows.
>>54226591
>only time you need to restart your system
You have one of those machines with hot-swap PCIe and two power supplies?
>>54226663
>I don't know the first thing about operating systems: The Post
Windows is a rip-off of VMS, not Unix, you moron.
>>54225661
>UNIX is a junk OS
>by Windows NT lead developer
ayy lmao
>>54225661
>le when did you outgrow a world standard and became a substandard cuck?
You can see Indian quality of these shitposts.
>>54226630
RMS calls it GNU/Linux in order to give Torvalds credit, since he is starved for attention.
>>54226693
VMS is a rip off of UNIX. They even designed it with a POSIX layer so they could actually sell it to real customers.
>>54226710
>Who is Dave Cutler?
Holy shit, how new are you?
Cutler is bigger than rms and Torvalds combine!
>>54226177
>I don't see why anything other than linux exists, I guess they're just blind to the fact that alternatives exist.
This is why I hate unix/linux people. They talk about the importance of choice and alternatives, but then go and say that they wish that only their choice existed.
Unix has destroyed variety in OS development. It's so depressing that the only practical option anybody has if they want to use a computer is unix or windows NT.
>>54226767
>but then go and say that they wish that only their choice existed
No they don't. Who says this?
You're inventing a straw man here.
>>54226752
Damn you're ignorant.
>>54226789
I do wish that all software was free.
That's probably what he meant.
>>54226814
I said Torvalds is starved for attention. I should have been more specific.
>>54226789
I literally just responded to a guy who said "I don't see why there are other systems".
Unix users think that a future in which no operating systems other than unix-like operating systems exist is some wonderful dream we should aspire to.
>>54226767
P L A N 9
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>>54225709
>sold overpriced garbage with a meme OS
Yeah seems like an easy leap
>>54226896
I said practical option. Plan 9 is just unix 2.0 anyway.
>>54226912
Noone cares what a tripfag thinks though. Kill yourself.
>>54226912
Stop being a poorfag hobbyist and use your computer to make money. If hobby computing is your thing then thats your bag, but don't condemn the working folks who know how to do shit.
>>54226799
In those days you have to basically clone UNIX (aka conform to POSIX) to sell a computer to a University or the government or military or defense contractors and other serious users.
Of course you didn't know this because you're a mere child from India.
>>54226860
>who said "I don't see why there are other systems"
That's not the same as saying they shouldn't exist anon.
No need to get vaporish and hysterical here.
>>54227108
>tfw NT had to get some shitty layer of POSIX in order to comply with FIPS and get government contracts.
>>54226912
It was literally a billion times better than a $15,000 Tadpole SPARC-top, or the $25,000 Conger SGI / MIPS-top which were the only other workstations in a laptop form factor at the time. Faster, longer battery life, etc.
Oh and please watch this, it looks like you need a little help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
>>54227152
It's pretty funny, MS still offers a POSIX layer because they literally have to.
>>54225661
When did you outgrow DOS?
>NT isn't DOS
and Linux isn't UNIX, but it did grow out of and was inspired by UNIX.
when i bought an ipad
>>54227370
Some Linux distros are UNIX
>>54227416
lol no
>>54227416
You mean like Debian GNU/kFreeBSD? But that hasn't got Linux in it. It's a FreeBSD distro.
>>54226203
Grandpa, we dont use Win98 anymore.
>>54226359
Yes.
See ksplice, KernelCare, kpatch, kGraft, etc.
It's just that with the usage of hypervisor/vm it's less relevent on typical server.
With vm, you can reboot the physical server after migrating the whole running vm to the other server with zero down-time.
>>54227440
>>54227469
Nope google inspur K-UX
>>54225709
Any place where people are used to a unix command line and someone else is paying for the hardware you will find mac.
>>54226767
THIS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIS.
>>54227498
>install program
Linux: apt-get install whatever, done
Windows: run the installer, reboot
>uninstall program
Linux: apt-get remove whatever, done
Windows: run the uninstaller, reboot
>updates
Linux: most do not require a reboot; even the kernel can be updated live if you care enough to set up ksplice
Windows: almost every damn update no matter how minor requires a reboot
>>54225661
I've never used unix.
>>54227726
You've never used a smartphone?
>>54226767
>the only practical option anybody has if they want to use a computer is unix or windows NT.
>not running AmigaOS
>ISHYGDDT
>>54227704
>reboot after install a program
>reboot after uninstall a program
Lel, do you take seriously the pre made messages of installshield and related?
Unless you're installing some program who needs non PnP drivers you don't need to do that.
I concede that Windows Updates are a bit annoying because his integrated architecture and Microsoft way of shove them, but I don't find that bad in the big picture, specially considering the advantages of a thighly integrated system.
>>54227520
>China
>Itanium
>Red Hat
So many fucking red flags!
>>54227841
>yfw every single smartphone out there has OpenBSD arcrandom
Feels Goodman!
>>54227962
>openBSD smartphone
That thing exists?
I want to know.
>>54227921
>Lel, do you take seriously the pre made messages of installshield and related?
It's usually not drivers, but pending move operations that got queued because a file that needed to be replaced was in use. You can resolve this in two ways: Read the registry key, see what files they are, use Unlocker, kill/close handle, delete the files and move the new ones into place. Or just reboot like the message says.
On Linux this is a non-issue because the kernel allows deleting files that are in use. It handles it quite nicely. Whatever's using the old version keeps using it after it's deleted, and the actual file remains on disk until the last open handle for it is closed. It just removes it from the directory tree so anything looking to open it will now find the file is gone. You can then put your new file there with the same name, with no conflicts. This solves so many issues without extra code: updating a core system library doesn't require some special code to replace it on next boot before anything uses it, like happens on Windows. The file just gets replaced.
>>54227992
No but:
>Android = Linux + Java
>iOS = Darwin = Nextstep
That's 99% of the smartphones out there now.
>>54226680
How often do people swap PCI components?
>>54228036
Nice to know it.
Anyways, almost never I had problems with installer who want to reboot the computer. They work fine.
>>54228091
Daily.
>not taking your GPU out for cleaning each night and then falling asleep next to it in your bed
>>54228102
>almost never
Going from "almost never" to never is a good thing though.
And anyway you might not see weird behavior that is traceable to your failure to reboot after installing software either. Things fail in mysterious ways with Windows, this is why computer people tend to use a Unix(y) OS.
Pic related, the crowd at a Windows 10 event.
>>54228231
Haha, I know that.
Anyways I use OSX now. It's the most decent Unix like system for desktops.
>>54228091
yfw Sun hardware had hot swappable CPU's.
>>54227379
iPads = Unix anon.
>>54227992
Nope, all smartphones have arc4random from OpenBSD!
http://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-current/man3/arc4random.3
>>54228496
I bet iPads have AT&T code in them. The CSRG didn't remove a lot of code in the usl judgement.
