>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
-If you dislike a headphone suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, brand x sucks"
-If you see someone getting mad for no appearent reason, heavily shilling/bashing a brand/reviewer etc, just ignore it.
-Feel free to share your headphones/setup and talk from personal experience, but try to couple your subjective opinions with objective data if the discussion asks for it.
-Feel free to suggest headphones that you think should be in a new guide for /hpg/
-Remeber, always ignore the shitposters
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
Previous Thread:
>>54052254
Finally, a thread to discuss your favorite youtubers.
>>54063753
You seem to be mistaken. :O
This thread is about headphones! :^)
>>54063753
You mean a thread for you to samefag while most of us keep up with normal posting and ignoring you.
Go ahead, bump the thread for us, you piss-poor copy of CG.
>>54063753
Personally I like youtubers who review headphones. They give you good insight in laymans terms to what products are good. Got me some k612s based on a youtubers recommendation. They said they were great for gaming, which they are.
What's the best place to buy headphones in Melbourne? Looking for some good hi-fi semi-open headphones in the 230 AUD price range. I need them to be relatively flat and I don't listen to bassy music so bass is not important. Detachable cable preferred.
>>54063857
Go to AddictedtoAudio's B&M store in Melbourne to audition shit.
I'm tutoring on the side for extra cash but money is still tight. I may have to use the same fucking cans my whole life, but that's okay.
How is your week, /hpg/?
>>54063857
Go to any random hi-fi shop in Melb that stocks MSR7. Get them to price match this from Wireless1.
>Detachable cable preferred
Google MSR7 cable. It's detachable alright.
>>54063915
Thanks! Gonna try out those T50rp /hpg/ recommend me. Hope they have them. I will report back here when i do.
>>54063944
Careful not to try out too many headphones outside your budget, you'll just be doing yourself a disservice if you listen to something you really like and can't afford it at the time.
>>54063921
Well, at least if have good headphones for the price, hell, the 7506 might actualy last you whole life anyway.
My week has being a busy one, still working on my paper, finding citations to everything can get tiresome, how is yours?
>>54063924
MSR7 owner here, 220 is a real good price for those, would recommend getting replacement earpads for extra comfort. BrainWavz HM5 earpads are probably the way to go
>>54064122
This. Oh the wonders of HM5 pads. I wish I could have sex with them on camera but my subscriber base would dwindle. Good on you for getting the msr7, they are so well built and are my new portable detail Kings.
MMM. Shoudl I get dt880s after the summer is over? Is it even worth it over 770s?
>>54064443
If you can't audition them then there's really only one way you can find that out, right?
>>54064443
Well, while still being V-shapped they are closer to neutral than the DT770, the stage is also better, other than that, comfort and built quality is pretty much the same.
Imho it's more fun to try a bit of each brand, but i'm not sure if you would enjoy different signatures and you already seem to like the DT770, so there's that.
>>54064158
Stop posting here you fat cuck.
>>54064514
I got the AD900X for my sister. Those were really nice. I might get the step up then for open headphones then. If the DT880s aren't anything special over the DT770s.I own some AKGs too I have on loan to a friend. Not the biggest fan of those but they're all right. I tried some $300 senns once too at a store and I don't really remember them so I imagine they weren't anything special to me.
Yeah a bit messy, I know, but I love my new 2.1 speaker set and my K702 still rocks!
>>54064443
If you're considering the Grado headphones in your pic related, be aware that they can be incredibly uncomfortable after extended wearing. The padding is just terrible.
>>54064750
shit mouse tbqh
>>54064758
I own all those plus some akg k702s. Theyre fine to me. I have a small head though. I have different cushions from stock though too.
>>54064747
>AD900X
Nice, your sister must be really happy with them, i have both the AD900X and the DT880, personally i preffer the DT880, fits better my big ears and has more bass, which i like for heavier rock/metal, but both are very good so you will probably be happy either way, the only reason i'd stray towards another brand is because i find a bit boring the idea of getting "the same but better".
Yeah, teh HD600 is very good imho, but it can be a bit bland too, guess it hapens with close to neutral/warm headphones.
what do korean cartoons sound better on, the m40x or 7506? and which one is more ideal considering one listens to a very wide range of music
>>54065182
7506, to really get the full experience of nano.ripe's screechy highs.
Is it true that once you go bass you never go back?
>>54065589
Neutral is king.
Also Lion a shit.
>>54065589
Nah, you can always adapt and neutral sounds better overall.
>>54064794
It's great for multitasking and for combos.
>>54064443
DT770 is a V-shaped closed headphone, while DT880 is "neutral" and open. Conclusion: DT880 is an upgrade imo. Get the DT880 600 ohm though, the other models aren't worthy.
>>54065589
The awesome anatomy does justice to the worst girl in this season. And no, bass is good just when it's present in the right amount. I'd rather have a super-bright headphone than a super-bassy one.
>>54065801
>>54065634
>not liking Lion
>>54065848
>unironically liking Lion
>>54065848
I prefer women.
>swapping pads on headphones
>discussing curves
>spending over 500$ on headphones
Are you sound engineers or work i studio?
Are you autistic or just have too much time on hands?
>>54066074
It seems you have just as much free time as we apparently do.
>>54063744
>tfw I'm wearing the same headphones as a QT 2D girl right now
feels pretty good man
>>54066074
Actually i just graduated in Sound Engineering, but audio can be hobby just as anything and people tend to spend time with their hobbies.
By the way, changing pads on headphones takes less time than putting laces in shoes.
>>54066074
I'm just an audiophile.
>>54066074
Neither, I mostly do location recording, meaning acoustic stuff like bards and quartets on up, often direct-2-stereo because KISS.
And I guess I have some time on my hands, not that shitposting on 4chan is a full time job.
FWIW I use a $2000 recorder connected to a $1700 mixer and $1200 each microphones; I would say my setup is solid but definitely not top of the line. What's a nice headphone when I have ten times that in audio gear?
>>54063744
Hi guys I currently have an o2 amp, and the 702s which I'm looking to replace for something that sounds a bit more fun and bassier (but not nigger bass).
I'm willing to spend £200 maximum but I don't want the hd600/650.
I'm looking for something clean but with a decent amount bass or at least not completely flat sounding, also something that is worthy of being powered by my o2 amp so it doesn't feel like a waste.
Cheers.
>>54066689
Play with EQ sliders.
why XB950 are never mentioned here ? They are good for the price
>>54066778
Send your pair to Tyll and let him measure them.
If they really are good, people will start recommending them.
>>54066074
I swapped the pads on mine because the old ones wore out and the vinyl was flaking everywhere. I'd absolutely do it right off the bat if I bought another pair of these headphones, though, because these pads cost less than $20 and are vastly more comfortable than the stock ones were.
>>54066720
I have maxed out bass and sub bass but it still doesn't feel 'right'. Is there somehwere else on the frequency range I cab alter to make them sound more full or 'fun'.
I did recently try the fostex mk3 and they sounded great but I have had two pairs now that gave a slight buzz/cracking sound when they reach a certain volume. I have returned two pairs back to amazon now :/
>>54067197
show us your EQ
I've been looking for a new pair of headphones. From my budget and some suggestions form (a previous incarnation of) this thread I came up with a few models. Then I checked some review sites which specifically listed some alternatives for those models and now I have the following shortlist:
- Philips SHP9500
- Sennheiser HD 518
- Sennheiser HD 558 (I might have a nice deal on this one if my germophobia allows me to buy headphones secondhand)
- Audio-Technica ATH-M40x
- Shure SRH840
So, which of these would be recommended? Is there an obvious model missing from this list? They are meant for general music listening (all styles) and will be used on my Onkyo amp, my PC (Asus Xonar Essence STX) and probably my piano and guitars though neither of those will demand a lot of the headphones.
>>54067309
I'm not experienced with this as you can probably tell, as far as I know iv'e pretty much maxed out the bass and sub bass?. Sounds more bassy to me anyway.
Just got to listen to stax 009, these square stax and hd800.
They're pretty good, but really not good enough to justify the cost. Why do you people bother buying them?
The stax in particular. They arent even comfortable to wear.
>>54067394
There really is no "max" as long as you keep lowering the preamp.
The bass of your headphones doesn't start falling off until about 100 Hz. You should avoid boosting any bass frequencies higher than that.
>>54066175
>sound engineering
that's not actually a school of engineering though is it?
like you really should just be called a sound technician
>>54067524
Ok cheers m8
>>54067497
Some people see it differently. I personally like the HD 800s comfort more than anything else I've worn and I EQ all my headphones anyway so the default sound signature is something that doesn't bother me too much, unless it's very limited in bandwith or very colored. I don't like Stax coloration at all and the SR-009 is eh.
>>54067675
Yeah the hd800 was pretty comfy, although still not as comfy as my ad700x.
What is the black version of it by the way? Didn't see it anywhere on the internet until I saw it in the store.
>>54067394
>2.6db at 50hz
>maxed the bass
Is this a meme?
>>54067707
Black version is HD 800S which has a resonator in the driver assembly which reduces the 6 kHz peak by some dB and comes with two cables(balanced and single ended) in the box.
>>54067792
So simply an upgraded version?
>>54067814
It's actually a downgrade if you factor in the added bass distortion.
>>54067814
As with everything above $500, it's different.
>>54067497
The real question is: why do people bother buying headphones costing more than 300€/$?
I've been meaning to upgrade my audio interface for a while and now decided I also want to get hd600s. I know a lot of people here use dedicated DACs and amps, but is there anyone with experience who would know what interface I would need to power the hd600s?
No particular requirements as I was looking at the steinberg ur22 which has two audio in and out as well as midi i/o. I'm now not sure if it can power the headphones I want though which is why I'm asking for advice.
>>54067316
Just get the SHP9500 would you like an affiliate link?
if your bass isn't fast then into the trash it should go.
>>54066827
No thanks i send mine to some guy on youtube. He does great reviews on them and if they're good people also start recommending them.
>>54068267
>snapheiser
>mudheiser
>nobassheiser
>channelimbalanceiser
>ever
>>54068372
whats the alternative then?
>>54068372
Seriously. Why get some deprecated 90's tech. I got myself the hifiman he400s. They're the same fucking price and with pads they have just as good bass extension as most more expensive planar headphones.
>>54068404
He400S with HM5 pads.
>>54067612
That's like comparing an engineer to a mason dude, go read about it wikipedia or something.
What are /hpg/'s most favourite or trusted brands?
>>54068696
Fostex and Philips. They represent the best value in audio.
Do in ear headphones do the same thing as cotton buds where they push earwax back in? Because that sounds dangerous.
>>54068818
Absolutely. It's my many audiophiles like tyll have lost their hearing and why it's recommended you get a monthly ear cleaning from the doctor.
>>54067782
No i'm new to EQ's and realized my mistake ;)
>>54068267
It can power the HD 600. I have HD 650 and the interface which work just fine. HD 650 has the same sensitivity as HD 600. Overall the UR22 has fairly limited output power from the headphone output but I find it plentiful for those headphones even after EQ.
>>54068818
Deep insertion canalphones can but unless you have a problem with earwax, they aren't dangerous to use.
>>54068927
>He owns the HD650
>>54068267
Never tested it on a Steinberg, but my Focusrite can power the HD600 with no dificulty, do you have any means to check if they have similar headphone amps?
>>54068696
Several, just read on the thread the only brands that /hpg/ actually hate as a whole are the ones we don't even bother to mention, if a brand gets too much praise here chances are it will also get lots of hate, so it'sworth checking anyway.
>>54068818
yeah, wen't to check my hearing about a month ago, everything is fine, but the doctor did asked me to stay away from iems if possible, not only they can fuck up the ear-wax, they also create much more sound pressure for the tympanic membrane than on-ears or over-ears.
>>54068954
>caring about what people have
>not being constructive and trying to help original post
>>54068977
Alright here we go.
>veiled highs
>more colored than the HD600
>faggots usually pair it with tube amps to make it 'warmer'
>costs more
>built just a shittily
>plenty of better headphones at that price
>no sound stage
>Budget
Endgame.
>Location
America
>Source
Fiio e10k
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized.
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I will be wearing them all day so they should be pretty comfy but I don't want to compromise too much on the sound quality either
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm/bassy
>Preferred music
Mostly just rock and anime/vocaloid stuff
>>54069014
I'm not the original poster dipshit, how much stupid are you?
>>54069030
Oppo PM-3
>>54069030
Sennheiser Orpheus
>>54069030
T50RP Mk3.
>>54067814
The reason Senn still sells both is because the difference is more down to taste than "this is objectively 100% better", problem is that being 6 years older you can find the 800 for like half the price of the S, and people have already mostly figured out how to copy the resonator but with less bass distortion: http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/superdupont-resonator-summary-and-interest-check.1558/
>>54069030
Ether C
>>54068267
> HD600
> upgrade
Before making a bad move, you should check if the HD600 is the upgrade you're looking for. What headphone did you have before?
>>54068267
I have a ur22mkii and k712's. I can power them to uncomfortable volumes and they are roughly 1/5th as efficient as the hd600.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK712.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
Make sure to update your drivers and foobar, and use a 6g cable for your ssd if you have one, otherwise it can introduce audio skipping.
Pros:
The volume controls are all linear, no steps.
Both front inputs can act as phantom powered mic inputs.
Rear output does TS/TRS balanced/unbalanced.
Records each input as a separate track simultaneously.
Tough as a motherfucker - I dropped it hard enough to dent the 1.3mm steel enclosure and it still works flawlessly.
Cons:
If the 48v is turned on you can NOT use a ribbon mic or the phantom power will shred it, even if used in the second mic input, as the power operates for both front ports.
>>54068927
alright thanks, that's what I was looking for.
could you give some comment on what
>>54068372
said? if you have used the hd600
>>54068955
which focusrite do you have?
>>54069290
what he should be really upgrading is to the 400S with new pads.
>>54069161
What's the difference between PM-3,2,1. I know that PM-1 is the lightest one at 320g but is there too much difference in the sound quality between the 3?
>>54069265
>1.3kg
>>54069181
Why do you always recommend the same overpriced headphones to me?
>>54069202
Thanks, will check them out.
>>54069290
akg k271 is what I have at the moment and I want to get an open backed headphone to use for longer periods of time as the closed back gets hot and so on
>>54069379
Scarlett 8i6
>>54069406
Where the hell did you find that Ether C is a kilo? I question your sources.
>>54069406
it's the first time i do, but you asked for endgame with no price range, even an HD800s is cheap from that perspective.
>>54069342
this is great thank you, k712s could also be in the running as I haven't pulled the trigger on the senns yet
what do you like/not like about them?
>>54069437
https://mrspeakers.com/shop/1-headphones/ether-c/
Click on "Additional Information". The weight is 3lbs.
>>54063744
where do I get new earpads for the mdr-v6 that actually fit? Last ones I ordered were fucking horseshit
>>54069450
K712's are great.
I've had dt 880 and hd600 before so I can compare them to those.
dt 880 has slightly harsher treble, hd600 ever so slightly recessed but easier to discern detail than either.
K712 has a bit too much mids for my liking, dt 880 too little, hd600 is about the sweet spot.
Bass is boomier on the k712, more detailed on the hd600 and dt 880.
Sound stage is pretty much equal among the 3.
Overall the hd600 has the best composition, feeling like each frequency matches the rest without over emphasizing any one area. It would be my go to recommendation for the budget.
>>54069417
HD600 will be a downgrade from the K271 in terms of clarity and instruments' separation. Open headphones aren't automatically better than closed ones in any case. HD600 is warm/lullaby-sounding compared to the K271.
>Budget
50-60 euro
>Location
eastern yurope
>Source
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
will be wearing them for hours on a daily basis so if they are comfy then even better
honestly some good "starter" options is all i need
>>54069543
>Sound stage is pretty much equal among the 3.
I should elaborate. You can discern just as much detail, but they will image differently. K712 is more in your face and up close, dt 880 is more laid back and detailed, and hd 600 is like a further away listening position with good separation but requires more critical listening. The other 2 can feel much easier to involve yourself in, but they're just different, not better. It's all about the kind of experience you want, not what someone else finds "objectively" better in a completely subjective hunt for perfection.
>>54069614
Takstar Pro80s
Well reviewed around the audiophile circle. Zeos swears by these.
>>54069653
>Zeos swears by these.
beito desu
>>54069653
>Zeos swears by these
Hey guys, can someone recommend some good earbuds for running and exercise?
>Budget
$40 bucks or less
>Location
Canada
>Source
My phone Galaxy S6
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds, connected is fine, no headphones or anything clunky
>Comfort level
Prefer to be comfy but as long as they don't fall out
>Preferred music
Electronic, with lots of vocals
>>54069677
>>54069682
>shitposts but doesn't recommend anything
At least i'm helping.
>>54069684
In ears or just earbuds?
>>54069705
Just earbuds, something small that I can stuff into my pocket
>>54069693
>implying
I think you should stop trying to one up everyone
>Zeos swears by these.
with appeals to authority and spurious accusations.
>>54069740
Yuin PK3. Don't just stuff them into your pockets, use a case for them.
>>54069406
>What's the difference between PM-3,2,1.
1 and 2 are open. 3 is closed.
>>54069653
Will try to look if they sell those around here
also i doubt there is a clear winner but any idea if anything stands out between these
>Sony MDR-V55
>Audio Technica T300
>Sennheiser HD 451
>>54069635
>dt 880 is more laid back and detailed
What I mean by that is that they are easier to separate frequencies because of a more natural and flat response than the AKG's and sennheisers.
I really shouldn't post at 3am. I leave out too much information.
>>54069759
Thanks anon, I'll check them out
>>54069614
A good safe headphone at that price are the NVX XPT100 or the Sony MRD7506s. Both highly recommended by zeos and you can probably get them for under 60 euros in europe. Personally the NVX XPT100 are the comfier of the two.
>>54069771
None of those stand out very much, are these your only choices?
>>54069804
Not really they were just what irl friends told me they had experience with and apparently found them good
just trying to see if they were considered bad/good
>>54069489
>>54069437
It closer to 400g.
>>54069406
PM1 and PM2 are the same thing, with a different accessory kit. They are open back unlike the closed PM3.
PM3 pads are not intended to be user serviceable, unlike PM1/2.
>>54068696
Good brands don't exist, only good models.
>>54069837
They aren't that great. Good if you've had nothing else but you can do so much better.
>>54069859
what's better than the V55s at the like $40 price they sell at?
>>54068507
what?
>>54069896
Superlux HD-681
Anything better than the OG HyperX Clouds for a gaming headset?
They're like £55 on Amazon.
>>54069931
>Superlux HD-681
How much better are they? They look pretty horrible
Gonna pick up some 7506's next week. I was going to get the Sennheiser hd 558's but the price went up on them.
Is there a heads up on the headphones before I purchase?
>>54069972
10x better. The v55 are horrid. If you don't like the looks then get Skullcandy Grind.
>>54069543
It's not surprising that K712 is worse than both HD600 and DT880. K712 is basically a super-bassy, bloated and muddy K7XX, which is the bassy version of the superior K701/K702.
>>54069548
that's surprising. What would you consider an upgrade?
>>54069772
thanks for the info I'll give it a thought
>>54069992
Horrid? I've had two pairs and even compared to the 7506s and Shure SRH 750DJs I have they're very decent.
Are you trolling?
>Beyersremorse
>Mudheiser/Snapheiser
>Any bass emphasis = niggerbass
>Any treble emphasis = pierced eardrums
>Ear raping HD800
>Everything except [my headphones] is shit because of graphs. You should kill yourself if you disagree.
>Cherry picking opinion-dependent parts/possible faults from measurements of "recommendation competitors" because [my headphones] must win!
>Everything over $100 is placebo (because I can't afford any better)
>EQing makes my Apple EarPods into STAX Omegas
>Objectively using 256kbps music with objectively the most neutral, robust and pellucid within its price range HD558, through the objectively transparent Objective2 amplifier and ObjectiveDAC for an objectivist such as myself
>>54070048
If you like the K271 sound signature and features, then go for a Q701/K702, which is basically a better,more spacious and open K271.
>>54070033
>K712 is basically a super-bassy, bloated and muddy
By no means is it any of those things, that's just inflammatory for its own sake.
>>54070158
Believe what you want. It's still much worse than the K702/Q701.
>>54070118
Kill yourself.
>>54069530
I really like my Brainwavz ones. I got them on Amazon.
>>54070103
are the v55 really that horrid when it comes to leaking sound?
i rather not have everyone listen to what i am hearing if possible
>>54070184
Are you one of those kids that looks at graphs all day because he can't afford to actually buy a set of headphones while living off autism bux in his mother's basement?
>>54069846
>It closer to 400g.
Then why does their site say "3 lbs"?
>with a different accessory kit.
Link?
>>54070332
No. I'm just a reasonable person that thinks that spending more money for an inferior product is pointless.
>>54070319
i suppose if you were using them outside a lot they wouldn't be the best. you couldn't use them in a library i imagine.
but i live in an student dorm type apartment with small rooms and thin walls so whatever volume i listen at is fine for that anyway
>>54070118
Just ignore the shitposters, Anon.
>>54070346
Shipping weight? The Ether page list the mass of both the closed and open Ether.
>with a different accessory kit.
>Link?
Look at their website product pages. PM1 comes with more fancy box, carrying case, multiple sets of pads.
EQ pleb here again, this is what I have so far for my 702's and I like the extra bass I'm hearing. Someone explain to a pleb where the treble is lel, iv'e heard these are quite harsh in the treble and strong female voices are a bit piercing in certain songs?
>>54070625
>pic related
Fuck sake
![[HorribleSubs] Mayoiga - 03 [1080p].mkv-00_11_51.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gWpE5EI.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mayoiga - 03 [1080p].mkv-00_11_51.jpg")
>>54066026
You clearly don't.
>>54070118
>taking the time to write this shitpost down
I don't know if this would be the right place to ask but I slightly bent my mdr-v6's headphone jack, it still works but I'm uncertain for long, is there anywhere I can order a replacement from sony or a third party so that I can resolder it in the event it breaks entirely?
>>54070625
>Someone explain to a pleb where the treble is
Have you tried googling that?
No joke, it will give you a better guide than /g/ can post in one thread.
>>54070118
join the 650 master race if the 800 treble rapes your ears
>>54070836
Seriously nigga? An electronics shop.
>>54070836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcaoQ-DEJu0
>>54070904
If you were going to buy something to stock on your meme multibit at least get a Val2. Asgard sounds worse than a Magni.
Buying headphone for daily using. Should I choose which of the 2 headphones?
Behringer HPS3000 or Hercules HDP DJ M 40.1 ?
>>54070913
sorry I didn't clarify, I want to know where I could by an _original_ jack for the mdr-v6
>>54070836
Any TRS 3.5 mm connector should do it, you might need to also get a 6.35 mm adapter for it.
On a side note, if you have the tools you might as well mod yout V6 to have a detachable cable.
>>54070625
pic related
Are ath-m50 still considered an allright pick for the average user?
>>54070904
>not getting the SHP9500 xDDDD
Dude i'm laughing. Why do sennshills hate treble so much like it's poison? You're missing 1/3rd the audio!
>>54070103
>compares them to other dj headphones and outdated monitor headphones.
>the v55 sound decent compared to them
what a surprise.
>>54071034
>industry standard for 30 years
>outdated monitor
at least pretend you know how to shitpost...
>>54070625
>>54070679
>bass
>80Hz
>>54071105
Yeah okay bud. I'm sitting here gloating with my ATH-M40xs.
>>54071121
So my chart has mostly added sub bass i'm guessing?, a guy earlier told me not to go past the 100 hz point with the 702's
I now don't know what the fuck is going on...although my chart has improved my listening experience.
>>54071156
Yeah mids start at 60hz that's why a mid bass hump muddles your mids because that's a 50hz bump on the bass which is really close to the mids.
>>54070944
The difference being?
>snake oil cables produce better acoustics
>>54071217
>this post
>>54071238
no particular reason apart from the convenient screw-on 6.5 mm converter and aesthetics
>>54070932
>Asgard sounds worse than a Magni
Coming from the original magni 1, I wouldn't say that. They sound similar though. Why would I get a tube amp that colors the sound? The asgard 2 moves a shit ton more air in your headphones in comparison, im no audiophile, but the bass and certain frequencies can vibrate your ears like a massage. I love it. Deadsy' bass and distortion in their songs is a great example of this.
>>54071156
Worry less about terms and definitions, and listen to the effect of what you're doing to your headphones.
Take a frequency, add 12 decibels. It will sound like shit, but you'll begin to recognise what frequency is what. Do that for every little button and bell and whistle, then do it again and again until you can imagine in your mind what that frequency sounds like when you fuck its shit right up.
>>54071289
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>54071289
Going up incrementally on the schiit line of amps, you get a lot better sound quality. I would never plug my TH-X00 onto a magni because you just lose a lot of detail. Same goes for the DACs they offer. Their R2R DACs are superb.
>>54071308
I'm not an expert sure. But I can for sure tell the asgard 2 is giving plenty of power to my hd650. The sound is phenomenal. I went through a lot of rough sounding shit trying to find this sound.
>>54071308
Do you even read before you post.You're trolling right?
just because ath m50s are a meme does that mean they arent good?
>>54071334
>The asgard 2 moves a shit ton more air in your headphones in comparison
I read the post and know exactly what's in it, the post you replied to is still accurate.
>>54071156
You should listen to however you feel it sounds better to you. If bass is what you want try a leaner courve from 63Hz. Also for trebble boost see <-
>>54071338
They aren't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UrKy1EuO0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnOlHAfHfQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03zd2H-Fno
>>54071364
That's not how you EQ treble for headphones.
>>54071323
>>54071329
>it costs more so it's better
lol you idiots clearly haven't heard the valhalla 2 vs the lyr 2 and asgard 2 then because it beats them both
>>54071418
Then how?
>>54071364
>>54071418
>graphic EQ
that's not how you EQ at all.
>>54071392
Arent a meme or arent any good?
>>54071436
You fill out the dips and get rid of the peaks.
Use SineGen.
>>54071455
Aren't any good. /hpg/ will defend them but that's just because they hate being wrong.
>>54071364
>>54071464
Lets be honest here. Is it truly worth it to EQ shitty headphones? All you're encouraging is more distortion.
Anyone got much experience with room modes and what peaks/dips represent which reflections or cancellations?
>>54071508
Cutting out treble peaks does not create distortion.
>>54063744
Oi, mates. What's the general consensus on Sennheiser?
I'm thinking about picking up a pair of thier HD558's. Anyone got any experience with them or anyother sennheiser headphones?
>>54071466
Actually that first link you posted - the guy said they are flat and boring, and you dont want the M50s unless you are mixing songs. Well that's exactly what I bought them for, so I guess I'm ok with them. They're not for listening pleasure; I needed something completely flat for mixing
>>54071508
WHAT IS HAPPENING. WHAT HZ DOES THE SUB BASS BEGIN AND END, WHAT HZ DOES THE BASS BEGIN AND END
>>54071589
But you still over paid for them and they aren't flat. There are much flatter headphones for cheaper.
>>54071508
I >>54071364 use a pair of HD600 and I like some bass and trebble boost, nothing wrong with that. I think it's a very subjective matter.
>>54071464
I'm not after 'a flat courve'. I don't understand what you mean by peaks though.
>>54071603
Consider 'sub bass' whatever is bellow 60Hz
>>54071603
see >>54070951
dumb frogposter
>>54071583
Get the 598 instead. Better headphones for a fraction more.
>>54065589
Yes.
At least for me. I can't stand neutral headphones now after trying what would be considered to be beyond nigger bass by /g/ standards (more bass than beats headphones)
>>54071603
Bass: 20-200 Hz
Subbass: 20-60 Hz
Holy shit, learn to google.
>>54071618
>I don't understand what you mean by peaks though.
Have a look at some measurements: http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-measurements
Almost all headphones have an uneven treble response.
>>54071624
wrong, they are objectively worse and foam can be removed from the 558 to make them worse to sound like 598
>>54071589
As long as you're doing your mixes on a variety of headphones/speakers, but have decent monitors and a good room for mixing you're fine.
Out of curiosity what interface and monitors are you using?
>>54071034
i don't understand your point, i'm comparing them to recognised good headphones at multiple pricepoints above them.
are you retarded?
>>54071642
>objectively worse
autism
>>54071640
>Almost
no, all headphones have uneven treble. there is not a single headphone on the planet that does not exhibit treble issues, it's an inherent flaw to headphones.
>Bass: 20-200 Hz
>Subbass: 20-60 Hz
everything below 20Hz is bass too.
>>54071671
you think less bass/less neutral response is better? go right ahead spend more on the 598 then
>>54069949
Not much if you want it for gaming and closed, which I assume you do since the Hyper X and the MDR 7 are
The K550's have a great stereo sound that works well with games. I own these and would recommend for gayming. I've also heard the Fostex TH x00 are even better but they will cost you a a lot unless you wait for a drop
>>54071670
Are you?
>>54071640
>Have a look at some measurements: http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-measurements
Hmm, interesting. Will try to play with that some day.
>>54071608
Eh perhaps. I mean I researched a bunch when I bought them 3 years ago, but I mean I have a job making ok money so if I paid an extra 20 or 30 bucks... meh whatever.
>>54071649
Yes I do mix on headphones, monitors, even some ear buds, since thats how most people will listen to the end product anyway. The true test is the car speakers though. Its gotta sound good in the car - I have some low end Alpines in my car for that.
Interface: Eleven Rack, Scarlett 2i4 into Pro Tools 12.
Monitors: Some shitty M-Audio Studiophile AV 40's that came as part of a bundle I bought like 7 years ago. I am saving up for some new monitors soon. Got any recs?
>>54071702
is an x-fi xtreme music enough to power them?
>>54068297
Yeah sure thanks! I just found I can probably get an audio-technica ath-m50x for pretty cheap (cheaper than the philips), should I consider that?
>>54071783
More like extra 60 dollars and now your mixes are trash.
>>54071783
>Got any recs?
>>54071523
>>54071794
I wouldn't recommend it. Sure they can make them loud but the output impedance on sound cards is shit, and those are low impedance headphones, so they might sound like utter shit. My advice would be to get an amp like a fiio or an o2 or schiit magni. Any DAC with a low output impedance would be good.
>>54070118
Is HD800 physically rape your ears? Will buy ASAP if true.
>>54071783
>Got any recs?
Depends on your budget and the size of your room. That said your best bet is to audition them. I'm not you, and I don't know your music, so it would be a waste for me to recommend anything other than auditioning monitors in store.
r8 plz
>>54071880
if he mixes he'll want something as flat as possible in most setups, ie 305
>>54071890
I'm guessing you're trying to take out the veil from the HD600. You should have gotten SHP9500 as they're more detailed.
>>54071890
0/10
You need to use a parametric equalizer.
>>54071640
I googled that a while ago and actually set it right but I didn't add enough bass. Some guy today told me not to go above 100 hz with the bass on my 702's and it threw me off.
Is he chatting shit or should I raise the bass all the way up to the 200 hz mark?
These came in the mail earlier this week. Did I fuck up /g/?
What headphones do you reccomend after using the M50x's?
>>54071899
Dat 15db rise
Dem 5 db peaks
He doesn't need that. Neumann KH120 are legit +/-2db
>>54071954
I apologize for the sideways picture
>>54071954
Badly
see
>>54071392
They're overyhyped garbage like beats. You should get the ATH M40x.
>>54071968
room modes
>Neumann KH120 are legit +/-2db
in an anechoic chamber suire, they're also 2grand per speaker.
>>54071918
I'm the same guy and I wasn't chatting shit. You want the bass to go from the red+blue lines to the green line, unless you want to mess with the mids too.
How can you gauge the build quality of a pair of headphones without actually doing tests?
I've heard people bash headphones for being "poorly built" and praise other pairs for being "extremely well built" but I've never seen any tests done like they do with phones.
Okay so, nearby store is selling superlux shit really really really really cheap thanks to emptying their warehouse of overflown shit, and I've been thinking of picking up a pair.
Selection is of the following: HD681, HD668B, HD681EVO, HD661
Price wise they're pretty much the same, any suggestions?
>>54071990
>they're also 2grand per speaker.
thought you said kh 310 woops, either way point still stands. kh 120 don't measure like that in a typical room.
>>54071990
What? No they are about 700 each depending on where you get them.
I know /hpg/ likes to overestimate but come on, that is literally one google search away.
>>54072076
>>54072057
>I know /hpg/ likes to overestimate but come on, that is literally one google search away.
unnecessary shitpost here
>>54072057
Assuming you're right they still measure more accurately than the LSR. Of course they're more expensive but that was the point of mentioning them.
speakers > headphones
>>54072117
you think somebody with av40s he got as a bundle 7 years ago is going to have the budget for those? 305s are unbeatable under $1k/pair. anything above that is neumann/genelec/ATC territory
why don't you all invest in some good speakers instead of deafening yourselves with headphones and subjecting yourself to dead sound?
t. mixing engineer
>>54072147
That's irrelevant. The point of posting them was that there are better speakers, and you're only recommending what you have measurements for, not what is available to him, so your recommendation is not any more valid than my pointing out that there are better speakers available.
This whole argument is pointless, because he's using them for mixing and not listening, which means there's no way in hell he's buying them sight unseen.
>>54072178
I believe (You)
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>>54072183
i'm recommending them because they're commonly available and speakers can be eq'd anyway but they can't match the wave dispersion/pattern control of the 305.
>>54072204
you should.
>>54071131
>gloating
>M40x
kek
>>54072212
>unlabeled diagram straight from manufacturer
Welp, this conversation is done.
>>54071906
I am using this.
Will HD800 do what I did in EQ?
>>54072306
sure is, looks like your shitposting is finally over
>>54071917
I will try to tame whatever it is. Thanks for info.
you ever feel pressure in your ears or hear ringing after using headphones? that's your ears begging you to stop using headphones and give them a break from the constant sound pressure inflicted by any headphones that are killing your ears. it's time to listen to your ears.
music is also mixed and mastered on speakers, not headphones. invest the money you would spend on headphones in good speakers and enjoy music more. i beg you, don't sacrifice sound for convenience.
>>54072307
>,
You can totally turn those to HD800 quality, it's just a matter of EQ. EQ pretty much fixes everything. And no, counter to popular belief, EQ does not introduce distortion.
>>54072339
bad bait
>>54072178
Your job is to make music sound acceptable from fucking cellphone mono speaker, no one cares about your opinion on headphones.
t. mastering engineer
>>54072367
not even bait. this is what mixing engineers will tell you.
>>54071876
Find somewhere to listen to them, the stories are greatly exaggerated. 7506's are bigger ear rape, as are grados and beyer's remorse .
>>54072381
yeah nah you're not a mastering engineer.
>>54072408
says the "mixing engineer"
>>54072408
I am.
>reccomending the M50x
those headphones sounds like you're listening to another pair of better headphones but you taped aluminum foil over the pads
>>54072431
so am i, brofist.
>>54072381
Mastering is the most overhyped profession there is. They'll say it takes a seasoned professional to do it, it is the most important part of the production and loads of other bullshit but in reality it takes any fuckwit 2 brain cells and a multi band compressor, limiter and level meter to do.
Your opinion isn't as good as you think it is.
