>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
-If you dislike a headphone suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, brand x sucks"
-If you see someone getting mad for no appearent reason, heavily shilling/bashing a brand/reviewer etc, just ignore it.
-Feel free to share your headphones/setup and talk from personal experience, but try to couple your subjective opinions with objective data if the discussion asks for it.
-Feel free to suggest headphones that you think should be in a new guide for /hpg/
-Remeber, always ignore the shitposters
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
Previous Thread:
>>54031331
I found a pair of brand new AKG K 240s for $57. Should I buy?
>>54052254
>not using a nearly two decades old sound-card.
new cable day for my SRH440's and makes them easier to use on the bus and train
>>54052336
that's a good deal i'd get them
>>54052394
You should probably get a Fiio M3. It's cheap and earned high praises from z.
>>54052394
>also not using giant killer $30 IEMs
>>54052420
>a dap?
Oh don't worry I already have pic related.
I bought it after losing my clip+ in a bus.
Actually I'm in need of a new dac to replace that old af creative extigy.
Didn't expect much but in the end getting a schiit stack for the HD600 was totally worth it.
>>54052254
After looking for some time I've decided to go with a Cambridge dacmagic 100 and a schiit magni 2 uber.
Reason for my post is to ask: Are there any decent low budget amps that match the schiit, but come in black? The O2 isn't quite as good from what I can tell.
>>54052749
>The O2 isn't quite as good from what I can tell.
It's not as powerful, but it can still power all good headphones.
Just got these from the mail a few minutes ago.
Massdrop had some sort of raffle with a few MEE-branded wireless headphones. Had a 5% chance to get the Matrix2 and I landed on them, ended up getting them ~$50 cheaper than the price advertised on Amazon.
Sound quality's good so far. Been listening to some GraveDigger, and I can notice the difference already.
>>54052749
O2 exceeds Magni 2 Uber in specs other than power output and O2 is very very powerful already to drive practically any headphone on the market. O2 is exceptionally silent, virtually no hiss even on low sensitivity headphones.
>>54052918
You can't stop yourself
>>54053122
no u
New Etymotic ER4 models, 4XR and 4XS, with a reworked tuning and cable connectors.
>http://www.enjoythemusic.com/AXPONA_2016/AXPONA_2016_Show_Report/Etymotic_Research_ER4XR_ER4SR.htm
>>54053161
because they have active electronics in them
>>54053271
why would you want cold headphones on your ears?
>>54052336
That's the price it is going for on Amazon, not a bad price if you ask me.
>>54053271
are you fucking dumb
>>54052254
I like this new Op, feels good to know there still are Anons who want a less shitty /hpg/.
>>54053176
Thanks for the heads up but that's too expensive for $30 drivers in a ER4.
I found a pair of AKG K553s for $172. Buy or no?
>>54053369
Good luck making an enclosure and tuning those $30 drivers yourself.
>>54053374
K553 aren't those the headphones that distort like broken AM radios (hd600s) ?
>>54053330
I dont know jack shit about audio, I know a few things about electricity so I know why that happens but I wanted a audiophile or some one that knows shit about audio to properly give me a explanation.
>>54053374
Didn't they sell for less than 150$ on Massdrop ?
I bought my K550 less than 100€, so I'm surprised US price are that high.
>>54053416
I was broke at the time, unfortunately
>>54053374
They are supposed to be cheaper on Amazon.
>>54053434
it's the price on amazon
>>54053434
scrach that, i was looking at a used model, anyway, that's a little more than they usually cost, i'd wait a bit.
>>54053450
B&H have them for $200
how big of a difference really is there in sound quality between a $100 headphone and a $500?
>>54053461
that's a fucking ridiculous price.
>>54053467
100 dollars gets you 90% of the way there.
300 dollars gets you 95% of the way there.
500 dollars and up is all about finding a sound signature you like not about any technical improvements.
>>54053413
conservation of energy has nothing to do with audiophile opinions
>>54053467
about $400
>>54053496
that shit isn't too bad if they are $178 on amazon
>>54053496
I've seen it listed at ~$250
>>54053467
Give the amount of snake oil in the audio industry you cannot correlate quality with price. However, >>54053499 is a pretty good rule of thumb. Price-performance ratio plateaus around the $400-500 mark.
>>54053499
Are you saying this from experience or just baiting?
>>54053591
I own several pairs of headphones and have been at this for more than 4 years.
>>54053499
so you're telling me if someone hypothetically went from $90 cans to $1500 cans with a good DAC/amp they would just end up with marginally better headphones?
I'm always reading up shit like "ohh you can really hear full detail of every single instrument" and "man it's like I'm really there" for the expensive shit which is making me think these pricey cans are like fucking orgasms for your ears compared to $100 headphones.
Does anyone that's actually owned $500+ cans have any experiences they like to share? Is what I say more or less the truth? A friend of mine is being baited into buying a HE400i when he already has a $90 NVX XPT100
>>54053560
Of course, it's the consumer's job to make sure they're not buying a crappy product.
>>54053625
So what IS the difference between say a hifiman he-400s and a he-1k or edition x? Or if that's not the right price gap, please tell me what is. If it's as minimal as you say then why do so many other people claim it's massive?
I'm not being sarcastic to try and prove a flimsy point, I just want to hear your opionion.
>>54053634
The difference between $100 headphones and $500 is bigger than he'd have you believe. I think he's over exaggerating to prove a point about buying good headphones vs any old shit that looks nice.
>>54053677
not really it just depends as there are expensive shitty headphones and fantastic cheap ones.
i think i've finally settled on the sennheiser m2's over ear.
i had literally ordered the mdr-1a's but read several minor complaints of sound leaking. considering i only have any use for closed backs is when i want to listen around my roommates and not disturb them, this to me would be a rather major issue.
i considered the cheaper mdr 7506 but i really want a removable cable. also considered ath-m50x but i really hate pleather and am afraid velour replacement pads wouldn't seal well.
also considered the msr7's but again, i read the isolation was only okay several different places. and again i don't like pleather.
the senn m2's already come with all the cables i need and i vastly prefer the materials used in the build. price is pretty ok at <$240. they are easy to drive, a requirement i have. i've read they don't leak sound. i really wish sony would just make the v6 with leather + removable cable and charge an extra cnote.
>>54053499
This for snake oil headphones but if you go for best price to performance pair the difference will be much bigger.
>>54053722
but this question is assuming the product you're buying is the "best" around its price range, why the fuck would anyone ask this question in the mindset of "assuming I go from [a good $50 headphone] to a Beats by Dre"
>>54053723
>settled on the sennheiser m2's over ear
Enjoy. I find the pads tiny.
>>54053634
if you're going from an XPT100 to a 400i I'm fairly certain you'll notice an improvement, if someone would like to refute me please do
>>54053723
You can open and ''mod'' them 2 add a cable port also you can buy the ear pads separately.
>>54053412
Fuck off sennshill
Linus said it bes on the wan show. When talking about phone speakers being designed by B&O he said that there is only so much you do yo such a tiny driver to make it sound better. There are physical limitations involved and when it comes to headphones, money isn't the biggest hurdle to achieve better audio, it's physics itself. This is perhaps why 200 dollars headphones will sound almost as good as top of the line headphones. You see this in the Fostex Orthodriver modding community where essentially a headphone costing 100 dollars is modded to the point that it sounds like a 1000 dollar headphone. This is by using the same driver and only changing the housing. What improvements are there? Well not many, better sound stage and imaging and a more even frequency response, the rest are purely cosmetic and comfort luxuries. When it comes to audio, everyone has a preference, this is why one headphone might click better with that person and they will claim there was a major improvement.
>>54053800
those are not the 2.0's, they are much larger.
>>54053887
>When it comes to audio, everyone has a preference
This I agree with. Normal plebs by headphones with emphasized bass. My tastes are different and I like thin bass.
>>54053831
yeah, nah. tho i strongly considered getting the auray sheepskin pads and just using a cable adapter with the 7506 but then the price difference starts becoming minimal and the headband is still made of pleather...
>>54053795
dumb fucks fall for shiny marketing.
>>54053795
Because better bass
>>54053909
forgot pic
>>54053176
I'll wait until they go down in price and if they have measurements. $350 is way too much when you can get a ER4PT for around $250.
>>54053887
I highly doubt same 1 can make a pair of headphones at 100 $ sound like 1000 $ pair also headphones > speakers
GuideAnon, you didn't reply to me in the last thread and I'll be going soon if you don't want to have a chat.
>>54054029
What was the question?
>>54054197
akg shill fuck off your time is over, zeos shills took your place as resident thread shitposters
>>54054218
But Zeos "Always Right" Pantera loves AKG.
>>54053176
Most interesting release in ages.
>>54053369
How does the price of a single part of the headphones have any relevance to the MSRP? Not only is it very obvious that products are sold with large markup but there are more than that to mere material costs and a rather large amount of R&D which goes into (some) products. And if you are the market leader at accuracy and isolation and kind of the only manufacturer of in ears with a focus on just that, you could charge a lot more here. There is no competition for Etys in what they are doing although I wish there was.
>>54054044
54048880
>>54053938
>headband is still made of pleather
You already made your choice but, just to add, the headband on the V6/7506 is very sturdy and rather comfortable since the headphone itself is light, it wouldn't be a problem, i can assure you.
>>54054218
Shoulden't you be in bed belgian shitposter
>>54054197
>Parabolic
Which AKG would that one be? The model resembles a lot the k240 and it's siblings.
What's the difference in sound between the Fostex T40RP MK3 and the T50RP MK3?
>>54054428
>confirming who he is by calling someone belgian
>>54054422
velour or real leather or gtfo i say and i've seen too many cracked pleather v6 headbands. shit's disgusting.
>>54054601
There is no difference.
>>54054651
Or trying to perpetuate his personal vendetta by calling anyone who disagrees with him "belgian."
>>54054601
The T40RP has a bit less bass.
Hi. So my hd280 has finally died and I feel like getting a new pair of headphones for indoor use. I'm going to be using these in my room all the time where I'm alone, so I don't care about isolation or anything like that. I mainly want sound quality, I want it to be comfortable (I'll be wearing it while I'm working) and kinda affordable. My budget is $500ish max.
>>54054841
Other than that, is it pretty much the same?
>>54054905
They're the exact same headphones, except the T40RP has the outer cup vents covered with a piece of plastic and the T50RP has them covered with felt.
There's also the T20RP, which has a fine plastic mesh over the vents and no plastic cover over the headband mounting point in the earcup, giving it more emphasized bass over the T50RP.
Other than that, all three use the exact same driver, housing and headband and the same mods can be applied to all three as well.
>>54053634
I own 7506, RS2i and HD800's, so basically $100, $500 and $800 respectively. (although HD800 normally has a much higher msrp)
First off the difference between the 7506 and RS2i is no joke, while the Grado sound is said to be a love/hate thing, there is absolutely no aspect in which the 7506 can compete except sound isolation. I still need them for monitoring audio while recording as they're very well suited for that in a number of ways.
Between the RS2i and HD800 the difference is quite a bit narrower, even though the two have very distinct sound profiles. The Grado has thick distorted bass and very forward mids that reveal almost too much, while the modded HD800 sounds very clear, balanced, and while the bass isn't as punchy, it has amazing presence and separation from the other sounds. And of course there's the famous HD800 soundstage, when I first got my Grados many years ago I never knew headphones could present such an open and airy sound stage, but they sound positively congested by comparison.
>>54054988
>modded HD800
if it's not SD resonator it will only sound worse than stock.
>>54054873
>Requesting purchase advice:
>http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>>54055007
It's SD resonator which I made myself, the difference was startling and I wasn't even expecting anything, I just like tweaking shit.
>>54055028
Yeah I did read the pastebin and followed the criteria listed in it. Was I clear enough, because I thought I typed everything down.
>>54054657
bullshit.
>>54055062
so no actual confirmation of your resonator working since you don't understand how a helmholtz resonator works and probably just shoved something in the opening.
>>54054970
Cool, thanks anon
Last question, are the T40/50s truly hard to drive? Since they are 50 Ohm, I thought a phone or mp3 player wouldn't have problems powering the headphones.
>>54055097
k
>>54055104
Only asking because a few people say they're hard to drive
>>54055108
>anything M50
>same shit as V6
>>54055104
My phone can just barely push them to decent levels.
If you truly want to play things loud, and you will want to because these fuckers are addicting, then an amp is recommended.
anyone tried the u-jays?
>>54054873
Bump. Need a new pair guys ;(((
>>54055178
Use the template, as an anon before me suggested.
>>54054873
Are you planning on gettin an Amp with the same budget?
>>54055192
I literally did. What else am I supposed to add?
Superlux 668b's are only $37 right now. Yay or nay?
It's weird seeing a black guy NOT liking Beats
>>54055207
Not right now, my budget doesn't allow for that unfortunately.
> Budget:
around 200 euros
> Location:
Denmark
> Preferred type of headphone:
on-ear/over-ear, closed
> Comfort:
gonna be wearing these for around 3 hours a day
> Tonal balance:
i like my dt 880's
> Preferred music:
classical, jazz, indie, folk, /mu/ shit
> Past headphones:
i’ve owned the hd 25's earlier, but i returned them. I can get a pair of beyerdynamic t50p for cheap, should i just go for these? im gonna be using these out of my smartphone
>>54055217
http://www.gearbest.com/headsets/pp_270782.html
>>54055210
The one long string of text is kinda annoying to read, even if all the info is there.
Also there's nothing about preferred sound signature or music you like, which are the most important things when it comes to something as subjective as audio. Everyone has their own preferences, so we need to know yours before we can give you a recommendation.
I just got these as my first pair of open ended headphones and for the 110 dollars they are absolutely amazing.
>>54055237
I know the 681s are compared to them alot. Are they any better?
>>54055103
Why assume that? I was more interested in the theory behind it than simply getting a result because someone suggested reading the thread where it was developed, and I basically ended up reading everything I could find on the subject. That said, the original developer of this mod did admit that he wasn't trying to exactly copy the technology that ended up being used in the 800S, so you're right in saying this isn't a true helmholtz resonator; the author didn't really want to call it one either.
The fact that it did alter the sound in a favorable way was neat, although I didn't really have anything against the sound response before the mod.
>>54055262
The 668b are generally considered superior to the normal 681 and the 681 Evo.
>>54055258
Sorry, I'm on mobile at the moment so I couldn't be bothered to format my post better. I'm mainly going to listen to ambient and electronic music.
>>54055227
Are you sure? That much money you can grab an HD600,DT880/K702 (all very good and comfortable) and an O2 or magni2 amp. Try to describe what kind of music or fr you like, this would narrow down the options.
Also, this >>54055229 is what they usually mean by following the template, it makes your request more visible and easier to read.
>>54055229
>i like my dt 880
Why not just go with DT770? Although they are much bassier than the DT880 so you might not like it as much.
K553 perhaps?
>>54055302
welp, probably should've said it more outright, but i want more portable or foldable headphones
>>54055325
I see, are you going to listen to them on the bus/train or something like that? V6 with Auray Sheep Skin Pads is rather comfortable and isolates.
Since you are ok with on-ears V-moda m80 is currently pretty cheap, is very portable and has the same built quality as v6 (if not better), the extra bass is always nice in public transportation (usually the bass is the frist thing to drown near car engines).
M40X and V-moda M100 are also very portable, one is pretty flat, the other very bassy.
>>54055269
kek, is that even a V6?
>>54055450
yup.
>>54055477
>>54055450
>>54055269
It's a fake, the original v6 has the same leather used on it's carrying bag for the headband.
>>54055503
no it isn't. here is the auction ebay.com/itm/322063217120
>>54055509
>ebay.com/itm/322063217120
Not sure what's more impressive you paying $100 for $60 headphones or that you buy fakes from ebay for $100.
>>54055549
k well you haven't proven anything.
>walked into the nearest guitar center to demo DT770s and the M50x and wow is the M50x a heaping pile of shit.
>>54055509
yep, those are fake, also
>That adapter for the 6.35mm TRS FUCKING ADAPTER
Lol'd hard.
>>54055600
>fake cause i say so!
it's real unlike the shit tier materials you buy.
>>54055266
have you confirmed the success of your mod with something other than your opinion?
>>54055576
>>54055618
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ
cunt look on top they are made of leather and have writing on them yours don't they are a rip off butthurt kid.
>>54055509
My V6 saw 4 years of heavy use and all it happened was that the bright letters on the headband vanished.
Anyway, you can tell it's a fake from the cable too.
If you guys had the money, would you buy the Sennhesier Orpheus?
>>54055768
yes if rich
>>54055089
You forgot the types of music you like and Over ear or on ear.
>>54055768
i actually do have the money and considered it but i i'm smart and bought speakers instead.
>>54055768
Only if my public image was as a diehard audiophile and I wanted a conversation piece as well as headphones.
>>54055768
If i tested it and liked it, yeah, but to be honest i'd probably use the money for something cheaper or maybe a pair of monitors.
>>54055666
I would need to build a coupler to test the headphones scientifically which I don't really have time for, but my mod is done with absolute precision as outlined on the SBAF thread and basically looks like pic related but with different material colors.
This basic design has been tested by at least six different people, whose results ended up largely in line with each other, so I don't have particular reason to doubt their authenticity, the SBAF users are far more autistic then other audiophiles when it comes to this subject matter, and I don't care to compete.
In any case you're the one who said that the SD resonator mod is the only legitimate way to improve the sound >>54055007 so why are you now backpedaling and implying that it's a fake and doesn't work? It's not rocket science to make one.
>>54055954
how am i backpedaling, you're just trying to confirm your own version performs similarly to the other ones, which you don't know.
>It's not rocket science to make one.
if you knew anything about headphones at all you'd know how big a difference even the smallest things can make with measured response.
>>54055768
Even if I were absurdly rich, I don't like the idea of a headphone that can't be used with anything but a specific amplifier, which is why I'll never see myself owning electrostatic headphones or anything else that requires a big amp to work. I see headphones as a way of taking your music with you, so stationary setups are just stupid.
What would /g/'s favourite headphones to wear in public be? It'd probably have to be decent-looking, bass-filled, no-leaking and good quality sound.
>>54056028
in-ears you fucking autist
>>54056028
Recently used my modded T20RP Mk3s on the bus. No regrets.
Is there a way to check for fake headphones? I bought some yamaha eph-100sls from ebay and it said All new parts not in original packaging, but they just got here and there's some wear on the tips and scuffs on the metal.
I compared them to the pics on yamaha's website and they look legit, and they sound alright, but is there a surefire way to tell?
>>54056028
When traveling i usually bring my M80, it's small, durable as hell and sounds good enough for a noisy environment, alternatively i some times bring the V6, doesn't look very normal, but meh, it's more comfortable for long trips.
>>54055723
look again. the lettering had worn off. you can see trace elements of it. this has to be bait, nobodg is this stupid.
>>54052394
I have a question about the A700x.
I was considering getting them because I hate the clamping force that most over-ear headphones come with.
How comfortable would you say they are? Also, what size/shape is your head? I've heard that their fit varies a lot because of that.
>>54056173
You can always stretch the headband over a few books or your computer case to reduce the clamp.
>>54055259
Glad you are liking it Anon, i've always wanted to test the AD700X, never had a chance though, only tested the AD900X.
>>54056127
So mad
>>54056203
But when they get stretched too much they don't fit right anymore.
The thing about the headphones I linked is that they have literally no clamp. They use a suspension thing to stay on your head instead.
>>54056217
If you don't mind, can you please respond to my question above? >>54056173
I think they use the same headband.
>>54055989
>you're just trying to confirm your own version performs similarly to the other ones, which you don't know.
Right, I don't know for sure. I'm assuming it performs similarly because I did notice the high frequencies were less fatiguing than before, I have some sibilance-heavy songs where the 800's produced harsh treble that became tolerable after the mod, and that's good enough for me. It's not a subtle change like you assume, the tracks didn't have the best mastering and are ear-cuttingly sharp even on the Grados.
>if you knew anything about headphones at all you'd know how big a difference even the smallest things can make with measured response.
Even if my variant is within 10% of official version, I'm still happy with what I got. Remember that this all started with the dude stuffing chopped Shure L olives into the wave guide, it's not and never was a super precise act. I mean the backing is made of thick fucking paper of all things, because after various tests it what he felt was most appropriate based on subjective listening. Stop being so uptight about this.
>>54055450
that's a headband not a fucking V6 you fucking moron.
>>54056233
>umad xD
If you could have the best sound system in the world, would it be speakers or headphones?
>>54056248
Well, i find the AD900X comfort to be ok, it's very light, the clamp however does not please me very much, never tried to strech them like Anon said, although i suppose it would work, i do preffer my DT880 anyway (comfort-wise) because i have rather big ears and it had more room inside the pads, clamp on my dt880 is actually a bit lighter, but the headphone itself weights more, so there's that.
>>54056289
You are mad.
Just stop replying.
>>54056304
If both sound equally good, headphones are more versatile as you can take them with you.
But they won't sound equally good, speakers will sound more immersive.
is there a way to jump up in appreciable quality from the audio technica ad900 without having to also get an amp/dac combo to drive more power hungry headphones that typically have the desired bump in audio quality.
>>54056321
ok kid
>>54056304
The best speakers get pretty huge since there's no replacement for displacement, so practically speaking, I wouldn't really want the flat out best speaker system, but maybe the best at a given size.
Headphones are generally more convenient whether it's $15 IEMs or $1500 Ethers
>>54056341
So mad cunt
Just stfu and stop.
>>54056338
Above 300 bucks is basically placebo territory.
>>54056364 (You)
>>54056369
this.
>>54056392
Holy shit this mad kid (you)
>buying open ear headphones for stationary setups at home
>not just investing in a good surround sound speaker setup
>"b-but muh--"
>the soundstage is wider than any headphone
>virtually weightless, it's like you're not even wearing them
>impressive audio for dirt cheap
>you don't have to buy additional crap just to make them sound nicer
>>54056304
speakers, definitely
you have them going for as long as you want without having to deal with discomfort, and you can move around without worrying about them falling off, so they are perfect for anything that makes you want to shake your ass.
Also a necessity for a home gym or if you're the party wizard and have even just one guest)
>>54056414
who are you quoting
>>54056418
>can't afford both
lol
>>54056028
IEMs. Currently using RHA MA750. Sure they look nice but I'm wearing them for my enjoyment not for some superficial brand recognition.
>>54056369
i've worn my ad900 everyday for 5 years. i'm sort of tired of how stupid they make my hair look after wearing them, and the ear pads are worn to shit.
what do?
>>54056444
>RHA MA750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAKsho4s8t8
this, they're beautifully built
>>54056304
Depends on the circumstances. I wouldn't want to get the best speakers in the world if my room cannot bring out the full extent.
Why are k612s so BADDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5bBBpE5-0M
>>54056479
Full-size headbands will fuck up your hair too, and replacing the pads is cheaper than replacing the headphones.
I'd just get a new pair of pads if you like how they sound.
>>54056479
Can't you buy new pads?
Also, not sure if there's any headphone that doesn't touch your hais, you might want to get a IEM for that.
Requesting some purchasing advice. Currently I use a 5 year old HD201. The cord is breaking. I have to wiggle the jack to get sound in both ears. Looking for a slight upgrade.
>Budget
$25-50. Preferably closer to 25
>Location
US
>Source
PC Headphone Jack
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Prefer Closed, but open can also work
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral. NOT V-Shaped
>Past headphones
HD201
Basically looking at a cheapish upgrade to my shit-tier HD201. Might consider rebuying these since they served me fine for 5 years
I got a semi-related question (it's about audio):
I have my consoles, PC, and other such stuff all connected to one monitor by a HDMI splitter so I don't have to fuck around with changing cables.
The only issue is that the monitor I'm using doesn't have a headphone jack, or any speakers. There's no audio output at all.
That's fine for my PC, since I've got headphones plugged directly into it, but for consoles and other stuff that doesn't have its own headphone jack, is there anything I can buy to get audio without replacing my monitor? Maybe some sorta HDMi headphone jack piece?
I have a Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music from like 2004 in my PC.
I feel like unless i'm spending like £100+ plus now to get something current that's better but I'm not sure.
Will it suffice?
>>54056500
They really aren't.
http://en.goldenears.net/42471
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK612.pdf
>>54056418
I'm not going to buy speakers before an unbiased website starts publishing frequency response charts.
>>54056540
For a MDR7506? Yeah, that should be more than enough.
>buying speakers
>buying headphones
>not just buying the bands who played the music and have them play it for you in the comfort of your own home
>>54056502
i've been wearing akg k553s for a while. the headband issue with this pair is much less of an issue than with the audio technicas.
>>54056506
i do like the way they sound, but i've always taken issue with the fit of the ear pads. i've had to wad up paper towels to angle the pads slightly so my ears don't touch the drivers. in addition, i'm afraid that if i get large angled pads that are meant for something like the hm5s or similar, that it will ruin the open sound of the headphones.
>>54056584
>having a bunch of dead people sit in your house not playing any music at all even though you payed $7,000,000 for them
>>54056577
I have a pair of MDR V55s and currently broken Shure 750DJs as well
>>54056418
>schizophonic sources
>>54056584
>unperfect acoustics + having to ednure hairy musicians
>>54056597
>Buying corpses
lol, what a Bunch of plebs
>not readind the score and listening to the music being perfectly executed in your mind
>>54056570
The frequency response of speakers is affected by so many factors that it's not even funny, pretty much anything larger than near-field desktop speakers is a crap shoot outside of an anechoic chamber, and even then positioning and environment have an effect.
Just like headphones have to be auditioned because everyone's head and ears are different, so are everyone's rooms with regards to size, clutter and composition and optionally treatment.
>>54056524
An AVR would be a solution but I doubt you want to spend that much.
>>54056681
>Just like headphones have to be auditioned because everyone's head and ears are different
Head size only affects the seal and the ears only affect the treble response. Headphone measurements are solid if you know what to look for.
>>54056792
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/how-do-measurements-sound-audeze#Pw42cl7abuHe6O4d.97
>The differences we see in measurements -- not just on Tyll's system but across multiple systems -- are due to many factors, including how the inner ear is modeled, the differences in pinna and concha geometry, and how the headphone and earpad interact with the pinna.
>the above article does show that measurements from one system to the next will yield differing results, and that doesn't make me very happy.
>>54056792
It's still different enough that stuff like HRTF can sound off if the dummy head doesn't match the listener by a wide enough margin, although the tolerances for this effect are much tighter than what's normally mastered into music, I'll give it that.
>>54056827
>audeze damage control - the article
shouldn't they be more worried about making headphones that don't have the build quality of $5 smartphone earbuds?
>>54056853
Tyll agrees enough to conduct more tests. Your choice to disregad information merely because it disagrees with your position only serves to further undermine your position.
>>54056827
>>54056848
I've read the article. Like I said, the differences are in the treble.
There's no disagreement.
>>54056892
Are you admitting that the measurements are not as important as the subjective experience Tyll stated?
>>54056869
>company defends itself against a not-even-negative review
>take it as fact
nice one dude
>>54056917
>>take it as fact
The only one claiming to take something as fact is the guy arguing that measurements are infallible.
>>54056906
The whole point of headphones is the subjective experience. Measurements will tell you a great deal about it, though.
>>54056944
I don't disagree that measurements serve some utility but I take issue with the asserted "solid if you know what to look for." There is little standardization for measurements and thus one of the reasons why we bicker over measurements between IF, GE, and even home users.
>>54056892
And the treble isn't part of the frequency response? It's part of the frequency range that arguably has the most impact on sound signature.
>>54056917
There not much to defend, it's well known that all planar headphones have that characteristic dip-and-rise, albeit to varying degrees.
>>54056964
You don't need a compensation curve if you know how a raw frequency response correlates to the sound reproduction of the headphones.
>>54056983
>And the treble isn't part of the frequency response? It's part of the frequency range that arguably has the most impact on sound signature.
What I'm trying to say is that the treble response has to be taken with a grain of salt, not thrown out the window.
>>54057030
>You don't need a compensation curve if you know how a raw frequency response correlates to the sound reproduction of the headphones.
And how do you know what is the raw frequency response if you have differences in measurements based upon differences in equipment, methodology, etc?
>>54057063
It's a non-issue blown out of proportions by Audeze. IF's and GE's raw frequency responses show the same thing.
>>54057148
>It's a non-issue blown out of proportions by Audeze
You know the raw response by disregarding measurements you don't like?
>>54057188
I'll disregard manufacturer measurements any time.
>>54057204
Thank you for admitting that you cherry-pick.
>>54057220
You're welcome.
>>54056515
Tascam TH02
Some of the best sound quality under 100
Some of you guys recommended me the Fidelio X2s and AKG 7xx.
I bought a pair of X2s and 702s.
The X2s are amazing, better than the 702 in my opinion, I just returned the 702s. I'm so happy with the X2s.
>>54057188
Manufacturer measurements tend to be biased for obvious reasons, behringer mics for example show measuements much flatter than anything produced by Neumann.
>>54056217
Apparently there isn't too much of an upgrade, sound is very similar and the fit is almost the same. As long as it's the X's and not the standard series they will feel and sound very similar. Does your 900x have a very springy type cable because my 700x's do and that's the only downside I guess. It self wraps alot.
>>54057423
>It self wraps alot.
Doesn't seem to happen to mine, but than again, it's a pretty long cable so i keep most of it tied.
>>54057461
Yeah that's really the only difference then. My cable is stiff with tension, it's very weird but other than that they are perfect. I love open ended cans now.
>>54057417
>Manufacturer measurements tend to be biased for obvious reasons
I'm not claiming that manufacturer's measurements are above question. But disregarding them out of hand, especially when Tyll gives it greater credence than that, simply because they don't agree with one's preconceived notion is not a good way of pursuing the truth. Even if we end up at an accurate answer it will be not because we took the correct path but despite taking the wrong one.
>>54057388
Your ears are shit then. The X2s are nowhere near as good as the K702.
>>54058305
That's bait, Anon...
>>54058305
What if you're the bait?
>>54058462
I'm tired of all the zeos shills recommending and bragging about X2s and T50RP Mk3s.
>>54057380
thanks anon. Ill look into it.
I was looking at the "JVC HARX700" before. Do you think the Tascam ones are better?
are pioneer se-a1000's any good? if anyone has actually heard of those
>>54058926
>inb4 Zeos
>>54058926
Yes but the cord is a joke. It's do god damn long you can rappel down a building with it. They're like the bassy warm cousin of the SHP9500. You really need new pads for them, i recommend HM5 pads.
Why is there so much zeos posting here? I can't take any post seriously. Basically this thread is useless
>>54059110
Good. Generals are the cancer of /g/ and should be removed, if nobody takes them seriously anymore they'll die eventually.
>>54059110
that's the plan my friend.
Why are k702s so good
![1422036597299[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1Z0dxFf.jpg "1422036597299[1].jpg")
>>54059120
What's the next step of your master plan?
>>54059129
I don't know man but judging by Zeos' impressions of the AKG line up, AKG make some of the best headphones (except for the K612 which are complete garbage.)
>>54059134
Crashing this thread with no survivors.
>>54059119
but whta's the problem with generals?
>>54059110
>I can't take any post seriously.
And this is unusual for 4chan and audio discussions in general in what way? You have more awareness than most who come here and thus you have a larger grain of salt. But if there aren't some of us here who are not shilling for a youtube channel or a redditor but instead discussing questionable recommendation and personal experiences then all that will be left is them. If you have an honest and sincerely held opinion then it shouldn't matter if there are other people trying to shout you down. You say your piece and let it go at that. You see bad logic you point it out. But if you come here expecting self-validation then you come to /hpg/ for the wrong reason.
Man T50RP MK3 kick ass after pads are added. Thanks zeos! Your ears were spot on.
>>54059110
There was plently of discussion over other topics, you are the one not taking part in any of it and bringin attention to shitposters.
>>54059119
>doesn't know what /g/ was like before /hpg/ was created
fucking newfags drawing conclusions...
>>54059464
>fucking newfags drawing conclusions...
but its the same thing... except retards parrot this bullshit. 90% of hpg doesn't know jack shit about audio and the 10% that do don't even post often because they know their efforts are futile.
feels good to know zeos does his research for us so we don't have to.
>>54059665
You should never surrender your own thinking to another person.
>>54059309
that's the t20 mk3 dumb zeosposter
>>54059879
Same thing and cheaper! Thanks zeos!
>>54059309
Wow that's more even than the venerable HD600s x3
>>54059309
I'm getting these, i don't care what /hpg/ says but those graphs don't lie. The driver matching is so good.
>>54059309
at that scale anything looks flat
>>54060059
T20RP Mk3 fag here, change the pads and maybe do some modding to tune them to your liking.
That's what I did anyway, mine have a slightly V-shaped sound sig now.
Seriously, these things are so much fun, I just want to play everything loud.
>>54060105
I like the cyberpunk aesthetic, are they really that difficult to drive as zeos said?
>>54052394
Both those mice look nice. I hate to try and get one because I just bout a mouse and haven't even used it yet.
Probably used it before and don't remember it. Oh well.
Thinking of getting a pair of Sony 7506 headphones next weekend. Any specific cons-pros I should know of before my purchase anyone?
>>54060122
I'll say the same thing I've said before, my phone can barely push them to a nice listening level.
If you really want to get LOUD, you'll need a decently beefy amp.
And trust me, you'll want to.
no price limit, sport earphones,through samsung device,while running, cycling, and also use in a kitchen at work
thanks
>>54060184
After watching a few reviews from zeos, you might be interested in the RHA MA750.
I have Sony MDR-V6 and a FiiO E10. Is there any reason for me to upgrade? I'm pretty content with what I have.
>>54060204
thanks, they look nice, asking for a friend, but look niiice and kinda like for myself :/ any others? i only kno of senn sports series but dont know if any good
Remember to report any mention of Zeos.
>>54060239
Nope, you're 90% of the way to what a more expensive set of headphones sound like. don't waste your money like these buffoons did.
>>54060239
>I'm pretty content with what I have
There's your answer.
If you don't feel the need to go higher, then why would you?
>>54056964
>There is little standardization for measurements
Most dummy heads are supposed to follow a set of standards.
IEC 60959/60318-7 and ITU Rec.57 with Rec.58 define the ears and dummy head proportions.
IEC 711/60711/60318-4 defines the ear canal simulator. Tolerances are much stricter with 711 couplers than model ears.
Tyll's raw head data is a little suspicious, but in-ear data looks good.
>>54056983
The variation is overstated.
>that characteristic dip-and-rise, albeit to varying degrees
It's not characteristic at all.
>>54056848
Transfer functions of the head and headphone are not the same thing.
>>54060239
>Is there any reason for me to upgrade?
Only if;
>I'm pretty content with what I have.
doesn't hold true. There is no reason to "upgrade" if there is no problem.
> Budget:
150-175 USD range
> Location:
'murica
> Preferred type of headphone:
on-ear/over-ear, closed
> Comfort:
somewhat decent, not going to have em on for hours at a time but comfy is good
> Tonal balance:
Unsure, would like some mids tho
> Preferred music:
electronic e.g LCD Soundsystem, Digitalism to name two
> Past headphones:
I had the Audio Technica M50's and the side that wasn't connected to the wire stopped working (left side I believe).
>>54060250
No they aren't good, sennheiser doesn't make any good iems, unless you want to pay a 800 for their top of the line. Maybe if you want something a bit better try the RHA T20i
>>54060277
T50RP Mk3 with SRH1540 pads. If anyone else recommends the DT770s then you will not get any mids.
>>54060280
thanks again,thats me done for the night,
g'night from iceland.
>>54060361
Night!
haven't been in a headphone general for a long time, is there a new guide?
>>54060375
Yeah, head over to /r/zeos. All the guides are posted there. Good stuff, even has speaker guides.
>>54060375
People are supposedly working on it.
>>54060277
>T50RP Mk3 with SRH1540 pads
that's 160 + 80 bucks for the pads. that's 65 over my budget...
>>54060421
they're 40 dollars for the pads. i'm not sure where you're looking.
