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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD (embed)
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
guess my dankpad /g/
>tfw get 8760w from arrow direct after 2 days of ordering it
bretty gud
>>54027604
You're the X220 eGPU dude
>>54027656
no senpai, but I do have a x220. Missing the IPS :'(
I thought you needed thunderbolt to connect an eGPU?
>>54027733
I just nabbed an X230 with IPS, not bad, but goddamn, going from 1080p to 720p is unbearable for work (ebay/craigslist posting)
>>54027763
Why would you think that?
>>54027763
eGPU works with the express card, anything below the *30 series has the option.
>>54027804
I found the real estate with 14" 1600x900 is a lot more comfy than a 12.5" 1366x768.
But god damn is the TN panel horrible on the 420s.
So what SSDs does /tpg/ like?
I've been thinking about ordering a 250GB Samsung 850 Evo for my X220.
Anyone have any experience with that specific SSD?
>>54027839
I'm running an 850 evo on my T420 right now, had it in my X220 before.
No problems at all, it's a solid drive. I would recommend it.
>>54027824
Someone on Reddit found an Alienware display that fits, though I don't think anyone here has tried it yet.
>>54027877
Hey I'm the guy who ordered one, it's sitting right beside me (>>54026500). Just waiting for the HD+ LCD cable to arrive.
I did a dry fit of the screen yesterday, it fits perfectly without any modifications. All of the mounting points line up and the dimensions are the exact same.
I'll document the install once I get the cable and update the wiki etc. Looking forward to it, from what I can see the screen is wayyyy better then the piece of shit TNs that ship stock.
>>54027877
>>54027916
Might do this. Let me know how it goes.
The FHD mod apparently consumes an excessive amount of battery and plus it would cost a lot more than if I did the alienware display.
If it's that much better I just might do it and replace my hinges at the same time. Anybody here have experience with replacing the hinges?
>>54027943
Yeah, I was debating the FHD mod but there were a bunch of problems: the thing consumed a lot of power and the screen constantly flickered due to insufficient RF shielding.
I'll make sure to do a detailed post about the upgrade.
What's wrong with the hinges on your thinkpad?
>>54027824
True, we have a T420s at work... but its sometimes bearable.
>>54027877
Some guy did here and was successful.
>>54028002
I appreciate that anon, will be monitoring the threads.
They just have too much play on them, I can tap it forward and it would lean forward and back and return to its original position
ill just post it here too
which one should i get? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5WM1ZK0583&cm_re=t420-_-9SIA5WM1ZK0583-_-Product or http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4AMWCI/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=
just dont want to get one thats messed up
>>54028076
Newegg one looks like the better deal.
Can I play custom maid 3d 2 on the x220?
>>54027839
I just bought the evo 850 250gb for my x220. It seems to be highly recommended for normal usage. I had thought about getting the hyperx fury because it's MLC not TLC but then I read about kingston/pny pulling some shady bait and switch shit where they started using shittier components after the performance testing and press reviews were done.
>>54027839
Have a 500gb 850 Evo in my W520, it's a worlds difference from an hdd. Would definitely recommend one.
Will this ram work on an x220?
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (2 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Laptop Memory Model F3-1866C10D-16GRSL
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16820231709
>inb4 16GiB meme
>>54028654
actually that's meme ram. Get regular cheaper 2x8Gb DDR3 ram and not that gamer crap.
So I may be bringing home a T420S tomorrow, very possibly for free. It has the 900p screen, 16GB RAM, the i5-2520M, and no hard drive. I will also be bringing home a second one that has some damage, which will be used for parts later down the road.
I am already planning all my upgrades. For sure an SSD, probably a second battery for the media bay, and maybe even an i7-2640M for shits and giggles. What other upgrades should I consider? I am not sold on mSATA because it is only SATA2.
The only concern I have is the screen. I am very, very used to 1080p. Is the 900p screen noticeably different? Is it good quality? What 1080p options do I have?
>>54028871
1080p to 900p isn't as bad as say 720p, but it's still noticeable. You'll adjust though. The T420s does have 1080p screen replacements.
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=118070
>>54028571
What's a reasonable price for a W520 i7-2760QM, 16 GB ram and 240 GB SSD?
>>54029092
I'd probably pay no more than $450 usd at the most.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-W520-16gigs-500mb-ssd-1920x1080-/272166087835?hash=item3f5e5cec9b:g:SC4AAOSwr7ZW4x1i
This one doesn't seem bad considering it has a 500gb ssd and a dock included. Although that shipping is killer.
hey /g/, I have a shitty new thinkpad and I'm thinking of reselling it this summer and I have two ideas of what I want; both broadwell laptops
>xps 13
>$600 on ebay
or
>chromebook pixel 2
>$800 on ebay
anybody with experience with either wanna shy me away from using one?
>>54029092
>>54029320
I'd probably try to find one that meets 2/3 of what you wanted for cheap, and install the other myself. For example one with an No/Shitty HDD and put in the ssd myself, or one with an ssd and 8gb of ram and add 8 gigs later.
>>54027516
>using arial
why OP?, why?
arial is so disgusting
>>54029382
hey, this actually looks like the font of my thinkpad keyboard. whats the name for it?
>>54029521
Helvetica or Helvetica Neue
Nimbus Sans is also an alternative.
>>54028680
The only reason i'm interested in that specific brand is some fag is selling it used on craiglist on my town for cheap. I just want to make sure it's compatible
>>54029348
Pixel 2 is amazing, such a big improvement over the original which I liked a lot, its predecessor's processor was very underpowered. It ran hot and didn't have much battery life, but very improved now.
I like the subtle design changes, much more smoother system than the original, dat 9 hour battery life. Supposedly the screen was a bit better too.
Can't say much about the XPS 13, haven't had one yet, other then you can have whatever OS you wish and memory options at the expense of a lame webcam position.
>>54029577
yeah, the thing is I can sell my thinkpad yoga for $500 and the xps would only be another $100 drop in the bucket. a pixel would be another $300-500.
but I think it might be worth it. god tier screen, great battery life, amazing build quality
I honestly was sold from reading that you can lift up the lid with the base staying still. I fucking love that on my old x200
>>54029609
Yes, it is a lot more firmer than the X1C3.
I didnt do that though. :X
stupid questions thread gave me zero serious answers so I am asking here since there is no regular laptop general. don't give a shit if it's a think pad or not as long as it suits my needs and doesn't come with bios level rootkits and shit.
>Looking for a good laptop/tablet / ultrabook/tablet hybrid
> i5 or better
> 8gb or better
> 1920x1080 or better
> larger than a 13" screen if possible
> A bluray drive w/ software
> os doesn't matter
> hdmi, ethernet, headphone, usb 3.0 ports
> good battery life so I don't need to plug it in all the time
> Preferably the kind that bend over like pic related. The ones that detatch from the keyboard are retarded
>Preferably without retarded key placement, a full size or tenkeyless style keyboard, and A touchpad that actually has buttons to click
> two hdd slots if possible. I like to keep my os and data separate
> easy to access ram and hard drives as well as keyboard in case they need to be replaced.
I don't have any restrictions on budget but I don't want to buy anything with features I won't need( ie: leet gyman laptop)
>>54029762
Get a Lenovo P50/P70 an be prosperous.
spilled water on my think pad X200 about a year ago and shorted the keyboard power button out, just got a new keyboard today and set it up and everything was fine and I go to put NixOS on it because I want to see what it is like and it kernel panics so I say fuck it and put arch on a flash drive to use instead but this time it just sits there with a blinking cursor while trying to boot from anything. wut do? (I already reset CMOS and checked the RAM and ran the HDD test in the BIOS, everything seems fine) Everything I see on google does not relate to my issue.
>>54027839
I used a standard 2.5" 250GB one for months and then got a msata version a few weeks ago. Upgraded the wife's 11E with the 2.5" and nabbed a 1TB spinning rust for myself for storage.
In the limited time I've used each one, they've been fast and utterly reliable.
>>54027604
T420
>>54029833
>wife's 11e
Cucked
>>54027516
Hi there, Read the buyers guide.
While i enjoy thinkpads myself, i was thinking about getting a thinkpad for a family member.
They are:
>older
>play shitty memebook flash games
>browse memebook and youtube
>do not download anything
>does not know what a torrent is
Do you think a thinkpad would be good for them? They can use Linux quite well. They currently use an old dell laptop i loaned them with debian jessie installed. They are complaining about low quality game performance, So what thinkpad do you think i should get them?
>>54027839
>So what SSDs does /tpg/ like?
Just about anything. Even the worst SSDs these days will probably outlive and obviously outperform any HDD you can buy.
>I've been thinking about ordering a 250GB Samsung 850 Evo for my X220.
Well, fuck Sony. After the 840 EVO fucked me in the ass, I'll never buy another Samsung storage device, ever.
And I'm not just talking about the "old data gets slower" problem. I had an 840 EVO that got astonishingly slow on *all* data after about eight months of use.
I now run a Sandisk and a Mushkin.
>>54027804
I know how you feel. The X220 IPS panel is a little shitty, too. Not nearly as shitty as the TN panel, but still...
>>54029762
hp probook 640 g2
make sure to configure it to have 1080p and blu ray. you can have them ship it with no OS to save $150
also make sure to get the most expensive keyboard for trackpoint
>>54030139
whats the point of trackpoint again?
Louis confirmed manlet.
>>54030000
A **10 or **20i with 4-6gb ram would probably be good enough for them.
Also, checked
>>54030388
to have a pointing device on the laptop that isnt retarded
>>54030495
At least he's more fit than 95% of /tpg/
>>54027516
can this general stop
>>54030661
I like it.
>>54030640
dude, I'm 5'10" and 158lbs
that dude is skinny fat if not slightly chubby
>>54030661
No, fuck off
>>54030661
No, now kill yourself.
>>54030139
it doesn't flip over tho and there is no touch screen
>>54030790
literally there are no laptops with that feature and an optical drive
get a P40 Yoga
>>54030661
Its one of the more informative generals that isnt as cancerous of a circle jerk.
>>54030684
Ugh I wish I could gain weight faster. 5' 9" 120lbs living skeleton sucks.
>>54027516
Is it me or is the logo off center?
>>54030942
I'd rather be a skeleton, I can't lose weight for shit, despite having lifting at work and cutting a lot sugar, I'm 5'11 196 lbs fatfit, if that's even a thing.
>>54030983
Ehh I went from 160 to 110. Mostly dieting and shit but just recently been putting on weight for them gainz.
>>54030942
Eat more and lift. I went from 142 to 175, 6'0" and thats mostly upper body gains (pls work legs ppl)
>>54031053
I eat a fuck ton of calories and have been lifting as of late. Gotta be a mountain man.
Aw yes
Motherfucking PE4C V3.0 has arrived
Time to fuck around with eGPU on my X220
>>54029762
>1080p or better
What? Motherfucker the majority of.laptop's are x768, ne geateful if you DO get 1080p
>blueray drive
What? Why? Good luck dude
>>54029809
Motherboards toasted fám
>>54031240
With the way laptops are aimed at normies, 900p is a feat.
>>54027864
> it's a solid drive
AH
>>54031481
Oh you know what he means, troll.
>>54029996
Its not a bad laptop, wouldn't call it a 'real' thinkpad, but not a POS at least.
>>54030661
the day i quit 4chins
>>54029762
If getting a good Precision, W sereis Elitebook, P series ThinkPad, you're gonna have to get a display port to HDMI adapter.
Also remember you could always upgrade the RAM after buying and save some dosh, I believe most quadcore i7 laptops come with 4 RAM slots, dualcore i5 and possibly dualcore i7's only come with 2 slots, maybe wrong on the dualcore i7 part, its late.
Not many recent tenkeyless laptops that are 15" or bigger, you'll probably have to settle for 14" if so.
>>54031208
Fuck year X220 with eGPU can output 144hz
Time to test some games and shit
>>54031590
>144hz
Human eye can only see 15fps, fag.
Getting the lenovo shipping delay shaft on my new order already. Is there a shortage of 512SSDs or 16gb ddr3 i should know about?
>>54027516
It's not centered. Fuck you OP, it gives me brain damage.
>>54031613
![$_57[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZxDCj4A.jpg "$_57[1].jpg")
Anyone use a laptop base to make it higher? Some of the tables at my university are too low for me.
I usually just put my DSi XL inside its case under the back of my T510 an it does the job. Found this one on ebay
Hey guys, quick question:
I've ordered this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-i5-2520M-Professional/dp/B00QVOKC66?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
i5-2520M 2,5GHz, 8GB RAM
Do you think this will be able to play CSGO on low settings and low (1024~) res at a constant 60+ FPS? It's not the reason I got it, I game on my PC, but would be nice if it was a possibility. I only play on low settings and low res on my PC anyway.
Cheers :)
>>54033066
you will be pushing it at that point. You will probably be seeing framerate drops pretty frequently even at that resolution. HD3000 aint the greatest thnig in the world
>>54033106
Ah alright fair enough. To be fair I doubt I'll be feeling the need to play anything on it, can't think of when I'd want to game when I don't also have my PC in the room
>>54033066
>>54033127
What card is your main rig working with?
If it's a Nvidia GTX 660 or later you could try the game-streaming features.
>>54031590
You best come back and deliver those test results senpai.
>>54033407
it's an AMD (ATI) 7870 2GB.
What would that involve? I guess the only time I'd be wanting to use my laptop instead of my PC would be when I'm not at this home (at uni) and don't have access to my PC
Buyers guide says i shouldn't get a used thinkpad T510 for more than $210. but the only one i could find locally is almost $400. i might be able to negotiate it down to $350. the device itself is in great shape. my question is; is it worth it?
No other T, X or W series are available. Plenty of R and L.
what does that red key do?
>>54033539
Ah, I don't know about AMD dude. Sorry.
Here's the link to what i'm talking about: http://www.geforce.co.uk/geforce-experience/gfe-beta
It lets you play games being streamed from a remote machine with a recent (gtx 660 or later) nvidia GPU to any machine via a google chrome plugin on their end.
The reviver can watch you, play instead of you, or play at the same time as you with shared controls. (The game is capped at 720p and 30fps on their end in their browser)
It's actually pretty impressive, if you're in the same country as the streaming machine then the input latency is basically undetectable. And it's extremely tolerable if you're streaming long distance to another country as long as you're both on wired internet connections.
I use it for simulating controller-passing with my faraway friends since I miss the days of sharing singleplayer games on a couch. Both the host machine and the "viewing" machine can play. It spazzes out if you both try to move at the same time though.
I'm sure a similar thing must exist for AMD? Or even a third party option by now. This has been out for over a year for Nvidia.
>>54033543
Some regions have much higher prices than others, check more listings, if they don't get much cheaper, buy the T510 in good condition.
>>54033543
It might be worth ordering one from abroad and having it shipped to you, as long as the seller packages it carefully.
Anyone have any experience with that? How risky is it?
>>54030059
>I now run a Sandisk
which Sandisk?
the SDSSDHII240G has sweet benchmarks and sweet price
>>54030139
whut, are elitebook keyboards with trackpoints swappable into probooks?
>>54031613
>Human eye can only see 15fps, fag.
When playing games on a ThinkPad, sure.
>>54027877
Does this shit work with the T430?
>>54033448
Still fucking about
It's obviously less performance than my desktop but still far better than integrated.
I set express card speed to 'generation 1' instead of automatic, though i dont know if I needed to, i'll test both.
I've had a black screen, where the video crashes and windows 7 makes that disconnected device sound, which lasts some 10 seconds before it reconnects. Not sure how to fix it but I'll look into it.
I've heard about optimus 1 and 1.1 and 1.2, but I think those are only for internal display which I don't use
Then there's something about voltages and BIOS versions, so maybe I can make it run faster than before.
In terms of benchmarks which I'll do later, I'm only really going to try out games I regularly play, and maybe in a few days try real benchmarking tools.
Overall as you'd expect it feels faster than just the X220 but slower than a desktop. There are some weird discrepancies like drops from 200fps down to 45fps for a few seconds in TF2, and steam's library screen tearing when scrolling. It'll be interesting trying PS2 emulators as that uses the CPU a lot.
>>54034475
How much has the setup cost you in all?
>>54029996
She wanted touchshit (Yoga) and isn't going to be doing anything resources intensive. Education line is still very durable.
https://youtu.be/kUkt5KL7lb0
I won't lie though - in setting it up I kept reaching for the nonexistent trackpoint and REEEEd hard.
>>54034604
100 pounds, it was like 60 pounds for the PE4C 3.0 plus import charges plus postage (ukfag, bought from america over ebay)
I already had the psu and gpu, so I can't really tell you how much it would cost if you only had a thinkpad currently but my gpu goes for 90 pounds on amazon and my PSU is stupidly overpowered for just an eGPU, a decent PSU that would work just fine could be some 30 pounds
240 quid then if I were to have bought everything this month, some 340 dollars
>tfw finally got my fully loaded P50
Pretty much got every high end option
FEELS GOOD MAN
>>54034694
Not bad!
Looking forward to your benchmarks.
Any news on the retro reboot thinkpad?
>>54035014
Nope
>>54034813
Jesus christ, I can hardly fill my 16 GB of RAM up.
>>54035014
Ask again in a year. Don't expect anything before 2017.
>>54035014
>>54035164
I wouldn't count on that retro thinkpad, even if they did come out with it, they'd treat it like a niche product and find some way to fuck you guys over.
Is there any way to work out whether I have the TN screen or the IPS screen on my new X220?
In the device manager the monitor is just listed as "generic pnp monitor"
>>54035294
Tilt the screen a bit, if you see colors and shit change, it's the TN screen.
I'm looking to add a USB 3.0 Express Card (34mm or 54mm) to my X220 but having trouble finding one that will actually work. Most of the ones I keep finding either don't have enough power to transfer files or the drivers don't work or this or that doesn't work.
Is there a single one that actually works thats a reasonable price?
>>54035352
Not that Anon, but my colors only alter if I look at the screen from a pretty high bottom or top angle, but there is no distortion when viewing from the sides at any position. What's that sound like to you?
>>54035400
IPS
>>54035411
That's what I thought. Seems to have a fair amount of IPS glow, and that was fucking with my judgment.
>>54035294
On TN the colours will invert at an extreme angle
>>54035400
I'm the first anon, same result though.
Guess we lucked out eh?
>>54035210
I'm not holding my breath. Even from the inception I figured it was pretty much assured it's going to be a billion dollars anyway and there's no way I'm spending that on a laptop.
/ic/ here, any good laptops with digitizers? The only other requirements are a decent CPU, GREAT screen and <$1100
SP3/4, and SB I'm not liking so much because of the keyboards, price and Microdick.
Not sure what the opinion on the TP Yogas' is, are they good? Will they last? How much is a reasonable price for one?
Dell's product range is a grade-A fucking mess, I can't figure out the digitized from the normal convertibles
>>54035750
Not sure if one can get a ChinkPad Yoga for that cheap
But anyway, starting at the bottom of the barrel. Depends on the definition of "great." The X200 and X201 tablets had pretty nice panels (unless you're really unlucky and get one of the PVA ones instead of IPS or AFFS), albeit low in resolution (1280*800) by today's mark. The latter runs 1st gen Core ix processors
Or there's the X220t and X230t with standard voltage Sandy and Ivy vag processors respectively. All IPS panel, 1366*768 aids. BUT the digitiser accuracy is poor. Tends to be all sorts of shit around the edges, especially the bottom one
As for dell, I haven't paid attention past the XT3 but you might want to give that a look
Or consider the Fujitsu T904, T935 or something. Unless those are too fancy
>>54035210
Oh so tempting to burn money on whatever it is if it ever comes out. But I'm a broke student nowadays. Going to use the X220t until it dies, and then fix it up so it keeps working until it becomes unusable due to content being out of its range
Anyone has a carbon vinyl wrapped thinkpad? care to post some pics? I'm thinking of doint it to mine but I'm not 100% sold on it yet.
>>54029567
I know for sure 1333 so-dimm works. Those are 1866. Most probably they will clock down to 1333 and you won't get any benefit from them.
Problem is that there's no way for certain that the G.Skills will underclock without problems unless you test them.
>>54030661
>muh homescreen
fuck off, pedo
>>54035366
I'd really like to know this as well. Got a random chink one that I can't get to work with any of the drivers that I've tried so far..
>>54035750
Yoga 14 (Best Buy)/Yoga 460/P40 Yoga are the same machine with different names.
2560x1440 panels are an option.
>>54036043
>Not sure if one can get a ChinkPad Yoga for that cheap
Have you ever read the OP?
>>54036116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP95zvSYhs8
from /tpg/'s resident trap
>>54036147
1866 MHz RAM works with BIOS mod:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/x220-custom-bios-1-40-release.782077/
>>54027516
>don't buy anything other than T, X and W/P series
IMO the E series is good too. In fact lately the E series has had better keyboards than the T series.
>>54036324
>IMO the E series is good too. In fact lately the E series has had better keyboards than the T series.
Shit quality bait.
Is the E series really not worth buying?
>>54036345
Not even. I work in a school, we just took delivery of a few T440s and a few E550. The E550 has a more solid feeling keyboard with less keycap wobble. Also better panels with deeper blacks.
>>54036386
Display panels, I should clarify.
>>54027604
>dell st2220l
Muh nigga
Thinking of getting a laptop. I love the Thinkpads and the Trackpoint®, but I don't want to be associated with autism, so I'm looking toward a HP Elitebook. I'm trying to decide between the 2470P and 8470P. I don't want an older (more inefficient) CPU, and I'm unsure of any major differences between the 2.
Looked through some local deals.
>x220t for $175
>t520 for $200
Both are good condition. Which is the better deal /g/?
>>54036565
the cuckbook air was made for you, m8
>>54036584
I'm not a homo, also I actually want computer power, not a shitty -U CPU.
>>54027839
I really like Crucial drives. I have an MX200 mSATA drive and an MX100 drive in my T430, and my gf has a BX200 in her T420.
>>54036644
>I'm not a homo
there's literally no reason to lie on this forum
Thoughts on the E560 15" model? The base with the 1080 screen and i5 seems very good.
Hows the battery life on the E560/E550 models?
>>54035032
64gbs of ram on a laptop
THE ULTIMATE SHIT POSTING MACHINE.
>tfw I couldn't install linux on it because the fucking docking station wouldn't work with displays. REEE I thought nvidia had good drivers, hell I even tried Ubuntu and it didn't work.
>>54037104
;_;
>>54027604
>filename
T420s, good choice btw, posting from one right now.
>>54032870
just grab yourself a block of copy paper from the copy room
>>54036311
>Best Buy
Specifically ones from Best Buy? Why exactly? I assume they're the only ones with a dGPU or something
>$899 + free shipping
eat my heart out, damn American consumerism. I might try for this even though the display is not quite up there and I'd have to forward it internationally
16:9 thinkpad = not a real thinkpad
unfixable 1802 error = not a real thinkpad
Installed middleton's bios for the FN - CTRL swap, but after the install that's the only thing that won't. Is there another alternative?
>>54037104
I assume he's an accountant who runs his excel on 40 VMs each with 2 tabs of Chrome open while working on his second and third jobs doing economic simulations and weather prediction
How do you justify sixty-fucking-four gigabytes of RAM?
Im new to thinkpads. What is the reason behind Thinkpads not having bigger screens by default? I mean for me anytning under 15.6" is kind a too small. Its my taste ofc but still the question remains? I need a normal think pad with big screen but no way in hell will i give over 500 euros for a fuckin laptop :(
>>54037436
forgot unrelated pic
>>54037474
Because the idea of laptops is being able to easily take them around. Bigger laptops like 17 inch monstrosities fly directly in the face of that.
>>54037474
Just for reference, how many other decent laptopts can you get with a bigger screen for under 500 euros?
For me 15.6" is already pretty big to carry around, 14" is my ideal size. But honestly it depend more on weight more than size, under 16" you can probably fit it in most bags.
>>54036849
I would also like to know
>>54037573
I installed Mint on an x41t. Should I leave it at that or try ubuntu? I just wanna use this machine to write essays and watch 480p-720p anime.
>>54037255
p50 fag with 64 gbs of ram and copypaper reportan
MY NIGGA
>>54037474
>>54037935
Stick to mint, honestly i dont see any pro's in switching to ubuntu
>>54037947
What do you do with all that ram?
>>54037474
>>54037956
Shit. I thought you were talking about resolution. Reading comprehension fail.
Coreboot supports the t420 now, anyone install it yet? Is it worth it?
>>54037960
Alright cool, I already got MPV on this bitch.
>>54038016
Yeah, you should alway try to stick to your main distro for a month or more
>>54027516
What do you guys think about X1 yoga ?
>>54038050
It's not terrible but it might as well not be a ThinkPad.
>>54038076
Whats wrong with it? I'm thinking about picking up one over a macbook pro. Is it worth it?
>>54038148
T460s.
>>54037974
shitpost of course.
I run a lot of different vm stacks and develop shit.
still upset that I couldn't get this running with linux as default OS. hate the fact that I have to use Windblows 10 as my home OS
>>54038148
Over a MBP, probably. Newer Thinkpads don't have the same durability and functionality that classic ones have, though.
>>54038173
im fucking amazed that a linux based os couldn't run with 64 gb of ram
>>54038182
It wasn't the ram, anytime I hooked up my dual monitors via docking station linux would go into low graphics mode, I tried everything, discreet video only, ran several nvidia drivers, nothing. without my two other screens it was pointless.
>>54038169
What makes the T460s better than the macbook and the X1 yoga?
>>54038243
>Cheaper
>More upgradable
>Better keyboard
>>54038174
>Newer Thinkpads don't have the same durability
Please don't keep spreading this meme
>>54038289
But you know it's true, anon. Do you seriously think Lelnovo can fit a magnesium alloy rollcage into something like pic related?
>>54038271
Makes sense. How do you feel about the the thinkpad 260 yoga?
>>54038289
How durable are the newer think pads?
>>54038339
>>54038349
>Yoga 260
Average + cucked by shitty 16:9 aspect ratio
Durability is as good as the old ones. Obviously outliers like being ultra thin (x1) or cheap (E/L series) aren't as good.
>>54038406
I give zeros shits of aspect ratios. I just want something that works well.
What's wrong with the new Thinkpads, /g/?
>>54038505
keyboard layout
>>54038505
pic related
>>54038535
ibm would have killed off thinkpads if it couldn't be sold off
>>54038526
not having PGUP PGDOWN near the arrows.
b a s e d . helps so much when you're looking at large ass log files.
>>54036570
Anybody?
>>54038988
Eithet one sounds good, go with whatever suits your needs better.
>>54038631
>manually scrolling through long files
>moving your fingers away from the home row to scroll through files
i much prefer having dedicated back/forward browser keys
>>54036565
>2470P and 8470P
it's called 2five70p, the two are the same generation and the differences are 1.5" and 0.5kg
>tfw running a thinkpad as my main now
Feels pretty good 2bh... didn't make sense to have it as only my portable when it's about 5x better than my desktop.
>>54039049
unless you're using Vimperator, how else are you scrolling through PDFs? Spacebar?
>>54038505
Noting.
I just ordered a T460p
>>54039328
Middle mouse button + clit mouse?
>>54027516
Turns out the clit mouse is one of the best mice when playing H games. Seems obvious now that I think about it.
>>54039328
this >>54039392
also less uses vim keybindings
surf uses vim keybindings (with Ctrl)
llpp uses vim keybindings
ranger uses vim keybindings
etc.
and yes, spacebar for next page works fine
and if i'm opening a file with >100 lines i'm usually looking for something specific
/ to search forwards
? to search backwards
>>54027516
I have a T420 with 2 Operating Systems installed.
Windows 7
Windows 10
/g/ constantly talk about things being meme's, but the truth is you just want to be akward hipsters. Linux is fucked, and also anything you cant afford is a "meme" oh "ssd meme" "intel meme" fucking manchildren
>buy X1 Carbon 2015 cheap as fuck
>read reviews, looked at shitloads of pics, etc
>hyped as fuck
>it arrives
WHICH SPASTIC AT LENOVO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD FUCKING IDEA?
>>54039671
>this
what exactly?
You can always take out this key and use marker on the other side, so this little dot won't be visible
>>54039671
>fn lock
Who in their right mind would ever use this anyways>
>>54039754
Exactly, the same feature can be toggled in the bios
>>54027516
what upgrades should I make to my x220?
>>54039737
>>54039754
I don't use it. That's the problem. I know I can reverse it in BIOS, but once it's physical, it hurts.
![DSCF0939a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Xd5EQfY.jpg "DSCF0939a[1].jpg")
>>54039671
> AT LENOVO
IBM.
>>54039779
16 gb ram, modded bios, intel 7260 wifi card, 480GB intel 535 ssd, LTE modem, ultrabase with 2TB samsung m9t HDD + any USB device of your choice integrated inside the ultrabase (there is a lot of space inside), overclocking RAM to maximize GPU performance, USB 3.0, expresscard module, eGPU (pe4l works pretty well with x220/x230), IPS screen, replacing CPU to quad core one (i7-3612qe), full hd IPS screen mod (it's easier and cheapter to simply send your x220 to japan and pay one guy to do both resoldering CPU and screen upgrade)
there are much more mods that comes to my mind.
>>54039865
OH MY GOD WHY DIDN'T THEY STOP THIS
FUCK
just got my T420s in the mail! here's the speccy, at $200 it was a steal
>>54039865
>>54039886
http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/fn-versus-ctrl-let-the-games-begin
>The Fn key was originally placed by the ThinkPad designers in the lower left hand corner to make the key easier to locate when using the keystroke combinations. There was a rationale. This is especially handy for turning on the ThinkLight in the dark. Aim for the two extreme corners.
>>54039671
>not using caps lock as control
>>54039911
You got fucking cucked bro
>>54039971
>caps lock as control
Why do you hate yourself?
>>54039990
That has nothing to do with this.
>>54039882
Do you have anymore info regarding replacing the cpu? are there any useful video guides on youtube?
>>54040015
It very much does.
>>54040033
Not really. After getting used to it I like it so much better. I never use caps anyway and the key is right there, always so convenient, why not use it for something useful?
Currently have an x220 with i5-2540M is it worth getting an x220 with an i7-2640M
will I notice the difference? I mean the i5 has a higher ghz but I'm not sure if that's all that matters
Guys I did a reflow on T41 and I think it failed.
But I think what went wrong.
I thought a reflow would fix black screens and no video at all.
And after some time GPU began to throw smoke out of itself xD
WHAT THE FUCK WENT WRONG
I've got two dead T41 mobos, any tips? I just resoldered grid with a hot air gun.
>>54040144
What will you be using it for? Any task that can take advantage of the i7? I think most likely it's not worth it if you even need to ask
>>54040203
just had a look on cpuboss and the i5s ranked higher so I think I'm going to leave it since I just use it for web browsing
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-2640M-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2540M
>>54040195
>falling for the "reflow" meme
Fucking kill yourself please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20H-XUvI9iI
>>54040020
it's not that simple. You need a professional and very expensive equipment to do that.
Ask your local compute repair point about reballing. If they do it they might help.
>>54040223
>not even reading your own link
anon, I am dissappointed, it says there that it is better only because price/performance and slightly performance/watt
i7 has more power overall, but that means slight less battery life
can't help you more, would need to have them both to compare
>>54027516
My work bought me a new t460 i-7 for c#deving and SQL work how did they do?
I've upgraded the RAM, put in a SSD, and replaced the ODD with a HDD. Also have the USB3 Express Card.
The machine itself cost me $75.
It's complete.
Is the Dell XPS 13 9350 ~1000$ worth it? Or should I get a x220. Battery life is my main concern and from what I read, you can get about 8 hours on both. I can find a x220 i7, new battery and 90 days warranty refurbished for 309$ CAD on newegg.
Is the Dell worth the 700$ difference? Long term in mind.
>>54040144
>>54040223
The i7 has a USB 3.0 port which is pretty nice.
>>54040549
The battery life for the x220 depends on what battery you get.
the 3 cell, 6 cell, or 9 cell.
>>54033819
no, probook 600 series can come with trackpoints straight up in the configuation options
its called like a dual input something or whatever. its like $14 extra
>>54038339
jokes on you the yoga does have a magnesium rollcage
>>54039671
where the fuck have you been the last 10 years?
you can swap them in the bios
>>54035294
It should say flexview if it's ips
>>54039882
Do you have more info about the cpu upgrade on x220?
>>54039911
>Intel Cre i3/i5/i7 @ 2.50GHz
>%1 Chipset
u wot m8
Just ordered a T520 with bretty gud specs and a 1080p panel for $325. Should be here this weekend. Did I do good?
So, whats a good way to check the health of my battery?
Just grabbed an x220, first ever thinkpad, it's the 29+ battery I think. I'm getting about five hours off a full charge.
>>54034813
>fully loaded
>chooses 10 home
enjoy your crippled OS. 7 or 10 pro are the way to go.
>>54042837
If you are running gnu/linux, like you should be, look into installing TLP
http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html
It will let you do a ton of battery and power management stuff.
>>54037358
no hotswappable ultrabay = not a real thinkpad (X-series are excluded)
no thinklight = not a real thinkpad
no status LEDs = not a real thinkpad
>>54043879
Much appreciated senpai.
>>54039328
>how else are you scrolling through PDFs
Most Linux PDF readers support vim-ish controls, with hjkl for moving a little, n/p for next/previous page.
Hey /tpg/ can we start a kickstarter/indiegogo tier company that produces "thinkpad inspired" laptops? Like make bad ass botnet free military grade laptops with no chicklet key bullshit and hd ips displays, that come w/ gentoo installation usb drive, etc? We could call it Maxipad™. Like as in "maximum thinkpad". We could have Super be the big models like t420 and Cozy be the small models like x220. Let's do this bros! I don't ever want to fall for the chiclet or muh thinness meme.
>>54044033
I'll design the logo.
>>54044033
No one would buy that except for a couple of autists that browse g
>>54044033
you'd need to develop accessories like dock, ultrabay caddies and batteries...
thinking of getting t420 on Amazon
anywyas, what is replaceable within it?
are healthy batteries abundant?
tell me about it, I'm a newfag btw
>>54044134
Fuck yea we could design an 18 cell battery and revolutionize the industry!
>>54044158
as long as you look for genuine low-cycle batteries you're fine. Chinese batteries are shit.
Also when you get your ThinkPad don't forget to check if the supplied battery is elefible for replacement, you can get a free new battery if it is.
>>54044103
Thats what they told steve jobs and look at him now
>>54044187
How does that work? Do you have to be the original owner? All my thinkpads are used.
Anyone know what think pad this is? Cd drive pops it front right corner not side.
>>54044190
Hes dead
can anybody who's bought refurbished tp from amazon tell me the quality of the tp
does it have scratches
was it dirty, etc
>>54044203
ThinkPad warranties don't require a proof of ownership since they're tied to the machine. And as for the battery replacement, it only requires to enter the battery S/N to check if it's part of the recall:
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122
>>54044238
Sweet i'm going to check that out. Thx anon
is the t440 good?
>>54044033
good luck sourcing components and producing units
good luck getting non cancer components that have open firmware
good luck getting it all at a reasonable price
pic related, a meme
>>54044308
Considered by most the worst series do to no physical trackpad buttons.
![thinkpad_t440s_trackpad[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DiKraAL.jpg "thinkpad_t440s_trackpad[1].jpg")
>>54044363
Though it can be swapped with the t_50 series keypad, which does have trackpoint buttons
>>54044331
Yea that novena comp looks awesome. If i ever stop being a poorfag and get some extra cash I want to buy one of those.
>>54044331
that looks like a hot comp
>>54044374
>>54044390
While it's a step in the right direction there are still non free components in it. Then there is cancer like Librem that practices false advertising
What is a good upgrade from a t420?
>>54044689
Another T420.
Sorry to be bothering y'all Thinkniggas again. But i just can't make up my mind between a ThinkPad Yoga with 4 gigs of ram and a x240 with 8. Both with pretty much the same price. I can't question the x240's reliability but I'm lusting after that pen and wacom digitizer.
>>54044742
yeah nice joke, but seriously.
