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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Been kinda poking around trying to find an answer. Guess i'll just ask here too.
My e6440 came with a wdc blue 1tb, the4 model number is WD10JPVX.
I am guessing the firmware has been fucked with because according to Western digital, the serial number is invalid, and rather than report a buffer size in crystal disk info, its showing total host reads and writes like an ssd would. This model isn't even an sshd model, so why would it even report a number like that? Is the smart data just fucked? Is it even safe to use?
T601F master-race
Need a physical parallel and serial (less important) ports in a laptop. Don't care about specs as long as it can run Win Xp. What should I get?
>>54006784
>pure dick
Have a T420 with a 1600x900 screen, i7-2620m and 8gb of RAM.
What would be an ideal distro/desktop environment for it? A simple layout used in i3, or a more fully featured desktop environment such as KDE?
>>54006937
T4x has parallel but not serial.
What is the best battery fr t420.
also what which dockingstation
>>54007259
9 cell + slice
mini dock series 3 model 4337 because audio
>>54007050
>What would be an ideal distro/desktop environment for it? A simple layout used in i3, or a more fully featured desktop environment such as KDE?
whatever you prefer, the hardware should have 0 performance issues with whatever you pick or however much "bloat" you throw at it
Looking to buy a t420 for college and I'm wondering what price I should be looking at on eBay/cl. For a t420 with 8gb ram, i7, and upgraded 1600x900 hd+ how much should I pay?
>>54007501
I paid $235 for mine, had 1600x900, i7, 8gb, 500gb HDD and original battery 9 cell at 95% charge.
Just installed Manjaro but the central button of my trackpad don't scroll.
Help.
>>54007585
mine too, using Arch Linux
>>54007585
>>54007592
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=manjaro+thinkpad+trackpoint
>>54006784
is this a shoop?
>>54007612
no
http://www.amazon.com/Puredick%C2%AE/b/ref=bl_dp_s_web_11453627011?ie=UTF8&node=11453627011&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=Puredick%C2%AE
>>54007538
I can't find anything near that price goddamn
>>54007538
Any other sites other than eBay and craigslist I could use?
I just got my lenovo P50 today and my SSD. However when plugged into either SSD slot 0 or 1 I get a 2100: Detection error.
All of the issue online says that it might not be a device issue. But a lot of people say the Samsung EVO drives do this often.
Is the Samsung EVO garbage? Why is this happening?
How much should I pay for a T420 with 4GB of ram and 128GB SSD?
>>54008294
210€~ 900p
>>54008128
>get powerful workstation
>skimp out on the ssd
Should I buy the T450s or the T460? The T460s is not even on my list because I require easily removable batteries.
What would be the difference between x220 and x230. Which one should I get? I did a CPU comparison and while the x230 has a newer CPU the one in the x220 is 'rated' better. Not sure how that is possible. Also, how much would I pay for either?
>>54008128
maybe a security issue with the bios
>>54006811
hi neighbour,
no idea what are the usual prices in your proud country, but here down south, in the land that sings, we have identically specced ( 2520M / 320 / 4 / mobile broadband ) non-IPS X220's available around 180eur all the time, yet the T420's somehow are a bit pricier
from my perspective what you've found is a pretty deal, but if you, by any chance, want the smaller fella and are struggling to find it locally for a good bargain, come over then, we have plenty here
pic related, that's what the busiest classifieds site here is called
>>54006784
memes are real
>>54006937
X61 with Ultrabase X6 has what you need m8
![IMG_0611[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/F1UgySo.jpg "IMG_0611[1].jpg")
>>54008389
>found a cheap t420 but it has a disgusting US layout
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54008485
The difference is that there is no difference? Donno, the only difference I see is that right one(x230 I think) has a shitty looking keyboard, but that could just be me.
>>54007792
Gumtree?
>>54008345
Be helpful, thanks.
>>54008408
Lenovo BIOS is horrible. What security feature can be disabled?
>>54008523
the keyboard is the difference i know of and yes the x230 is the one with the shitty chiclet. Maybe another anon can chime in on other differences.
>>54008584
Do you at least know which one is more fixable/upgradeable? By that I mean that I would at a later time want to add some RAM and possibly an SSD and buy replacement parts for if something goes wrong.
>>54008389
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X220
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X230
The X230 is the predecessor to the X220, it is one generation newer. However both were offered with multiple CPU options, obviously a more powerful CPU from the previous generation would be rated better than a less powerful CPU from a newer generation. There was not much performance gain from Sandy Bridge (2nd generation Core-i) to Ivy Bridge (3rd generation Core-i) Intel CPU's.
Is it normal for eBay bids to jump by a large amount in the last 5 minutes?
Only if the jumps are incremental and small. If someone outbids by a huge amount chances are that the person is a scammer.
I'm going to buy a T420, it better not just be a meme, /tpg/.
>>54008557
Here's another possible solution.
>>54008784
Don't fall for it.
The T420 is one of the worst Thinkpads out there.
>>54008717
>>>/sqt/
>>>/g/oogle
Which tp has the best portability + battery life
Anyone know if it's safe to remove that bump on the top right side of the screen on theX220T? what's inside there?
are the T420 and T420S screen bezels interchangeable? I managed to crack mine and the T420S ones are way cheaper on ebay.
I guess the question really is: is the entire body of the T420S different from the T420, or is it just the lower portion? I know the screens themselves are interchangeable.
thinking of getting into the thinkpad game.
x200 tablet, 4gb ram, 80gb ssd - £70. worth it? to be honest i'm not sure i'll ever use the touch screen but it seems like a fun gimmick
>>54009041
what resolution does x200 have?
>>54008910
that would be where the antennas go
>>54008852
No, its not. Its a great laptop. Please don't try to mislead him.
>>54009146
what antennas. why doesn't the x220 have it?
>>54009119
listing doesn't say. should i take the risk?
My t420 is the only laptop I have and all I run on it is Kali. Amidoingitrite???
>>54009194
do more research if you don't know what you're getting into. check out the x201 tablets too
>>54008910
It would be extremely painful
Which of the tablets do you recommend?
I Was thinking of going
>x201T
and getting an X220(non tablet) later
well?
Looking for a small (12" max) Thinkpad for travelling. Doesn't have to be the fastest, will only be using it for light browsing and a bit of word processing. Thought about an x100e/x120e but I've heard mixed things about them, especially the processors & build quality (whatever I end up getting is going to be thrown into a backpack and tossed around repeatedly).
What would you guys recommend
>>54009358
I have my X100e with me right here, and there is definitely a reason I'm on my X220 right now.
The AMD CPU is incredibly terrible. It overheats easily, requires an underclock in order for the battery to last six hours of word processing, and even after underclocking, still runs at about 85C. It's not an issue of being too dusty or any other excuse anyone can think of. I've taken it apart, cleaned it every which way, and it will not run proper.
Even the IPS screen on it is ass. It's definitely one of the cheapo panels, as it has worse viewing angles than my T430 with a 768p TN panel.
Do yourself a favor. Get at least an X201.
>>54009422
thanks anon, will avoid.
all I really want is a netbook-sized X220...
>>54007592
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TrackPoint
>Install the gpointing-device-settings package.
>>54008389
>>54008523
The largest differences between x220 and x230 are the keyboard as seen in >>54008485 and the Ivy Bridge architecture.
The x220 keyboard layout is obviously superior and I'm very disappointed at Lenovo for messing up the top right box and dropping back and forward keys. Still I must say that after using both x220 and x230 I've ended up preferring x230 for how typing actually feels. The pressure to trigger keys is just right for me and I feel no ambiguity about whether I'm pressing a key enough.
With x220 I felt that the pressure to trigger keystroke collapsed very slightly before the keystroke got triggered and I ended up having to care about not getting keystrokes swapped. I doubt you will notice much of a difference unless you are a veteran touch typist.
Ivy Bridge on the other hand is very nice to have since back then Intel really started to get gains in their graphics hardware. For Linux drivers most of the stuff that Haswell gets will also get Ivy Bridge support. Sandy Bridge on the other hand doesn't seem worth future support. The CPU isn't much of a difference other than lower power usage on Ivy.
>>54008651
They are very much similar in regards of WAN, RAM, SSD and mSATA support and maintenance.
>>54009358
I recommend the x201
I'm in love with mine
>>54009518
Sorry anon, I feel your pain. That's why I have this unfortunate "ThinkPad."
>find an old cache of batteries for my 600E I used to daily drive when I was a kid
>try them out in it
>my lack of a face when they still work wonderfully
>>54008717
That's usually when most bidding on an ebay auction happens.
>>54009656
x201 master race reporting in
>>54009944
The closeness to ebay servers is important, it implies lower latency and slightly more chances to snipe successfully.
>>54009158
the normal model has them behind the screen, the tablet model needs more space to hold the touchscreen so they place them in that bump.
>t420
I thought it was a good laptop....
What do you all use to clean you cases? the top part non keyboard area. the sticker arena
>>54008128
Have you tried calling Lenovo support?
also check if there's an UEFI(formerly called BIOS) update
>>54010108
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>>54008294
3 wagons full of corn
>>54010108
it is.
>71°C
are you running a stress test or mining bitcoin in the background? maybe it's time for repaste. A very small line of paste should suffice(a half of the amount shown on pic)
>>54010221
>lewd
>>54010070
Isn't most of the bidding automatic?
>>54010221
>msipasteguide.webm
My pair of 390x's. Need to get them fixed up, it's hard to find parts for these though. Both of them post, just need hard drives and batteries for them.
>>54010221
>(a half of the amount shown on pic)
more like an 8th of that
I barely even need 1/4 of that for a 5820k which is a ridiculously big chip
Just installed fresh Windows 7 to a T410. I need drivers. Is Lenovo forcing me to download and install them all individually?
>>54008973
If you're still around, and this thread is still alive, I can tell you tomorrow after work.
I am planning on buying a couple of t420s laptops from work, and I repaired five or six normal t420 laptops. I can take a look at the bezels and compare.
>>54009651
I will give my contradictory anecdotal advice that the x230 chiclet keyboard I have is noticeably less sharp than my new classic x220 keyboard swap.
Really though, doesn't mean shit if you're not comparing new to new. Worn keyboards are going to feel less sharp.
>>54009656
>he hasn't swapped the x200 trackpad-less palmrest for maximum 8:5 nirvana
>>54010546
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht080136
How good is the docking station for the x220? What do you use it for?
Perfect head height viewing reporting in. Who else here /comfy/
>>54011205
ComFy-T8 reporting in
>>54011042
T420 w/ dock reporting.
It's very nice to have a dock at home. When I come home I just throw my laptop on a dock and can just enjoy the two big monitors goodness without plugging a handful of cables.
Well, if you don't have established workplace at home, you probably don't need a dock.
>>54010980
Well I just know that for me the keyboards on x201 and x220 just feel a bit off while x230 keyboard feels much more like the ones on x40 and x61s which were really good.
The x220 I had was brand new since I got it from my employer. At first I thought that it was just a matter of adjusting to a slightly different keyboard feel but I never fully adjusted.
I guess it is a matter of preference. If you really like how x201 and x220 keyboards feel you're in for a bad time in the later models.
>>54010546
just install networking drivers and then System Update to do the rest of the job automatically
I'm able to get a T450s second hand for like $600 (i5, 500gb HDD) Should I go for it?
I've never bought a Thinkpad before. Recommend me one /g/
>>54012271
>T420 - 14", normal size
>X220 - 12.5", lightweight
>>54012271
Build a T601F and install gentoo.
Anyone care to share good experiences with after market batteries?
Anker is pretty decent for me and unlike the OEM seems to actually last longer in the sense that I have never gotten the fast blinking yellow light (X200). The cells are worse quality but only by a little
too bad my X200T has very limited third party manufacturers...
is this a good deal?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Tablet-12-5-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-320GB-5369-/351706407857?hash=item51e355e3b1:g:~CcAAOSwgApXDTCO
Any recommendations on a new battery for my T510? Don't care much about price, just something that lasts a long-ass time. Or does it even matter? Are they all the same?
>>54009280
you're a big laptop
one of the hinges broke off my 390X and now the hinge itself is completely broken.......
oops
Which one should I get for the wife?
X240 with 8 GB of ram, 240 gb SSD and shitty 720p screen for 361 USD or ThinkPad Yoga S1 with FullHD screen, 4 GB of ram, 240 GB SSD CORE i5 4200U for 472 USD. She's the creative kind so probably she would make good use of that pen shitniz. They're both in pretty good condition. Thanks!
Just swapped the trackpoint buttons from an X230 to a T520.
Didn't get the FRUs but it is swappable for this unit.
Feels kind of weird, dunno how long it will last, but it was a bit tough when first putting them in, I had to press hard on the three keys as I couldn't middle scroll well.
Well... It takes a bit more force for the middle click to stay scrolling, maybe a tougher tap on the left and right click buttons for it to register.
>>54014077
Weird not seeing the curve in the trackpoint buttons, good refurbishing though, doing whatever it takes to make it work.
>>54011446
That laptop was surprisingly a lot more lighter than I thought, same with the CF-F8. Granted they didn't have a hard drive or caddy but they felt damn good holding.
Had 6 Panasonics total last week, three of them were bought by one dude the same day I listed em.
>>54010453
Good luck, not that many of them, slightly of a different build than the 380, I believe the iSeries 1700 is the successor, I may be wrong.
>>54009358
IPS X220/30
>>54008717
Yes, works for me.
>>54008128
There was a faulty P50 or P70 I believe that had that same issue.
Might be a QC issue.
Power button does literally nothing when my Thinkpad is turned on. It turns on just fine, when pressing the button, but when the laptop is turned on, it does nothing unless I'd hold it for like 5 secs which kills it. In power settings it's set to turn off when power button is pressed, doesn't change anything. Any help?
>>54008770
156.57.234.220 ok
What's an affordable ThinkPad with a relatively good CPU?
I've been thinking itd be a nice buy, and I could shelve my win10 chuwi tab in lieu of a better gpu, CPU, keyboard, and battery.
>>54014333
A cheap T420 with the budget 2520m is main machine material in my book.
>>54014343
Thanks, I'll check it out.
>>54014107
I just folded a small piece of paper 3 times and taped it onto the underside of the buttons.
Very light tough and clicks work well, I know the chicklet keys are slightly thinner but this is an easy solution.
>>54010998
What is this thing you speak if
what do you guys do about battery life? especially on gnu/linux, it seems to kill battery life on any laptop i install it on
>>54015392
Tlp
>>54014556
Replace with plastic, make your fix last anon
+++ ThinkPad Battery Status: BAT0 (Main / Internal)
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/manufacturer = SANYO
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/model_name = 42T4845
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/cycle_count = (not supported)
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full_design = 44000 [mWh]
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full = 31570 [mWh]
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_now = 31570 [mWh]
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/power_now = 0 [mW]
/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/status = Full
Ouuch. My T420s' battery is so dead.
Anyone have got experience with the cheapo Chinese ones? Genuine batteries are so fucking expensive.
>>54013848
I'd say yoga. I just bought a yoga for my wife, as well. Gonna probably buy one for meself too
>>54013848
>X240 for $360
Holy shit they dropped in price FAST
>>54010138
done that....
>>54010221
Aint running nothing, this is after a reboot nothing is running but speccy
This was 50 bucks. Good score? 1.3ghz E300 sucks
What's that comparable to? A fucking c2d? If so, which one? Windows 10 doesn't run bad although I got the fucking auto repair loop of death and had to fucking get rid of it fuck maybe have to downgrade to 8.1 maybe that will work better.
I'm really loving the clitmouse I missed that when I had a r51 think pad. It broke after two weeks when I spilled water on it. I was a fucking teen back then so that excuses it somewhat.
>>54013848
UltraNav on X240 is shit because it lacks physical buttons on top. You can however get a spare X250 UltraNav and swap it in. Otherwise $361 for those specs sound like a good deal.
>>54016092
Try linux.
Anyone knows if I can replace my x220 default screen with a 1080p one?
>>54016540
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43600546862&toSite=main
>>54016563
T-thanks kindly anon san. I just needed to know if it's feasible. I will try to find a nice in English if possible, or second hand somewhere closer
>>54016632
You're fucked then.
>>54016642
What? Why?
In other news, your meme master is cringy as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shn7LdIrViQ
>>54016696
>He said a lot of bad words and a lot of mean things
Cause he's based.
>>54016095
>fucking this fucking that
>I was a teen back then
You still sound like one.
But seriously dont try to run win10 on that, put kubuntu or mint linux or debian or gentoo on it, linux loves old hardware
>>54016841
The grainy plastic on that thinkpad looks like it would feel awesome to the touch, very rugged.
>>54016866
All part of the ThinkPad Experience™
Yeah it feels nice, doesnt hurt your hands after touching it for several hours. I don't think the modern lenovo thinkpads have this surface to them
>>54016913
Yeah, they went the more premium feel like on my latitude, which feels nice and is sturdy, but it's not as rugged.
>>54016933
Your lattitude needs a clean mate, she's looking a bit scrabbly.
Fan of dell products, I have 2 dell optiplex 775's that I use as media computers.
Whats the parallel between thinkpad and lattitude?
>>54016962
>tfw you own 2 Optiplex 745s
Yeah it needs a canned air treatment, the keys and rests look great on it.
>>54016993
My man.
I have the thinner ones, stuck "powered by gnu/linux" stickers on them.
I figured out you can put an r5 250 in them for about 70 dollars and theyre suddenly gaming machines.
Its like the ThinkPad of desktops.
>>54017014
>ThinkPad of desktops.
They're straight up beasts, My main one has a Q6600 and a Radeon HD7750 1GB GDDR5 and 8GB DDR2.
My second one is no toy either, it's a 2.2GHz dual core with a GeForce GT 610 and 4GB DDR2.
>>54017034
Theres a lot of spare room in that compared to the thinner 775, yeah a mate gave me a C2Q and 4Gb DDR2 to add to my 4Gb, once I had those in and added the 250 she was flying.
My only complaint is that the cpu is at a 45° angle
>>54017073
I've never cared for BTX, or the way the cooling is set up, but it works well in my case, I max out at 54C.
>>54017073
>no space
iktf anon
>>54017073
>Green status LEDs right on the damn lid
Love that, very industrial, where as dell makes it look nicer by putting them right above the keyboard, and colors them blue, style is really the differences between Latitudes and Thinkpads.
Can anyone recommender a good thinkpad under 800$ ?
>>54017088
Yeah I've trusted the design despite not properly understanding it, or the airflow for that matter
>>54017103
My man!
>>54017119
All of them, heres a guiding image
>>54017119
T420, max $225 will get a decently spec'd machine
W530 The battle tank of laptops. Quad core, 32gb of ram, 1080p panel. A relly nice one should be in your price range.
>>54016696
>your meme master is cringy as fuck
What, louis? I wouldn't say he's cringy as fuck,he's even said he doesn't act shit a shit talking asshole in real life in his videos, so of course it's a farcry from how he is when you see him at work in his store, Hell I talk shit too, but at work, I am the ultimate gentleman.
where can i get a good feeling keyboard like the thinkpad's (no mech) without resorting the ultranav ( they are expensive as fuck).
lenovo b5400 for £100, worth it?
>>54016696
God, that whole fucking video...
>>54017777
checked
thinkpads are nice
>>54016066
Absolutely. Which is good because all it needs is a touchpad swap and it's perfect.
>>54016036
Thanks, anon. We finally decided on the Yoga.
>>54016132
And so it is on the yoga. But at least it's got a nice wacom pen.
I was under the impression that the yoga would have much worse build quality but it turns out to be the other way around. The yoga is made of magnesium alloy while the x240 is mere glass fiber reinforced plastic.
Also, is there anyway to make the horrible click pad bearable under linux?
>>54017832
they can also play some classics
>>54017871
Oh that's nice right there, I'm a big halo CE fan.
>>54017871
Noyce
I am interning with the Thinkpad Quality team in Morrisville right now and I am impressed. About half of them are old guard from IBM, and they all take quality very seriously.
Ask me anything.
>>54017888
Same here, I decided to revisit it after a few years and im enjoying again, even though I've played through it so many times.
>>54017896
indeed
pic related is diablo 2, this is really comfy to play with the trackpoint in bed desu
what thinkpads/laptops do the majority use?
>>54017908
where can i get a quality keyboard (no mech crap)
>>54017984
These
http://www.amazon.com/HP-SILVER-KEYBOARD-KU-0316-434821-007/dp/B00I5V6WVM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1460552545&sr=8-2&keywords=hp-usb-keyboard
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Enhanced-Black-Keyboard-SK-8115/dp/B00496FELQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1460552589&sr=8-2&keywords=dell+usb+keyboard
Both very durable, I have the HP one, I've spilled coke zero into it, flipped it over, drained it, cleaned it out, and it was fine.
So I've disabled the fingerprint reader in the BIOS on both my X220 and the tablet version but that does absolutely nothing. Am I missing something here?
>>54018025
>I've disabled it
>it does absolutely nothing now
I'd say you did perfectly
>>54006726
How do you change trackpoint speed and sensivity? Wiki says you can echo values into /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/sensitivity and speed but they're missing in my system
>>54018039
That's not what I wrote and you know it.
>>54018018
but do they have good feel to them? I don't care about the durability of a $10 product.
>>54018166
They're both shit, but the Dell is the better one.
>>54018166
They feel good to me, don't let that low price fool you, these two are keyboards that you can bang on and they'll last, the dell one especially as a good feel. Keep in mind that thinkpads are 'cheap' and they're the most durable little things you can buy
will a x230 palmrest with clickpad and fingerprint scanner work in a x220?
I hate the texture on the touchpad
>>54018228
also, are 230 screens compatible? they seem to be cheaper (IPS obviously)
>>54018203
i found one on ebay for 11 bux so ill try it ty
Which one should I choose
X230 with 128GB SSD, docking and two small white spot on it's screen.
Or
X230 with 320 HDD, much better condition and cost 4$ less
>>54018301
Cool, those to are my favorite because I used the Dell ones at an alternative highschool and it survived those destructive kids, and got the HP one used with my optiplex in Jan 2014, still looks great, despite the dust.
>>54018309
Getting a new panel is cheaper than an SSD..
>>54018309
>same price laptop
>one has SSD
>the other doesn't
I'd say your choice looks clear
>>54016563
>https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43600546862&toSite=main
Is there a minimum order quantity on this or can i buy just one. If its only one at about less than 200aud to do it its pretty cheap
I'm sitting with my t420 at about 3 meters from my router with a direct line of sight, but still the connection sucks.
How come /g/? No other device has this problem. Can I upgrade it's wlan card?
>>54018425
Install Ganooh/Loonix
>>54006726
I'm looking to upgrade from my x220 to something with more power and hopefully an even better battery would a t440 be a good choice?
>>54018425
Replacing the WLAN card is pretty easy, the one on my original T420 actually burnt out somehow, its an easy replacement.
>>54018465
But I'm already using that
>>54018601
Thanks anon. Do I have to pay attention to something, or will any do? I know how to replace it tho
>>54016563
>WQHD 2K 2560X1440P
Pretty sure x220 can't even handle that.
Anybody know where I can get just the top lid metal shell for an X220 without paying $50+ for one?
>>54018645
>1440p on a 12 inch
Even with my problem glasses on, everything would be to small unless you pull some retina upscaling.
>>54018642
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=arch+linux+slow+wifi
First make sure it's not software related before actually replacing hardware, since you can always do that.
>>54018688
I meant can't handle, as in the graphics card is too old. But I see that there are other problems as well.
>>54018711
The integrated and dedicated gpus of sandy bridge laptops can easily push that res on the desktop, it's the screen size that limits you.
>>54017943
Dat stretching doe
>>54018731
They're only like 10 bucks. It is worth a shot I think.
>>54018816
$10? goddamn, go for it, that's nothing to lose on what could be an epic X220.
>>54018848
Wait I'm being an idiot, the 1440p screen is $137 which is still cheap as hell for a little 1440p panel.
>>54018949
Wait whut.
Fucking hell m8 I actually converted from Yen ffs.
I have an x61s an x220, what's the next step
>>54018228
Not drop-in compatible. The holes for the keyboard tabs are different. Go look up the "classic keyboard swap" from the xx30/xx20 series.
You could do it, but you'd have to modify your keyboard as well.
Also, you know the textured touchpad is just a sticker, right?
how is called the red nipple you use as mouse? i just bought a replacement in china, it took a month to get there, so long i forgot its name ; is it hard to replace? checking youtube, trying to find stuff
Intel integrated tpg anons, does Firefox support h264 hardware decoding on your machine?
You can check atabout:support. Mine does not apparently (pic related)
>>54019305
Nothing much better than a fully upgraded X220 at this point.
>>54019466
if it's just the rubber bit you just pull it off then put the new one on
>>54019541
I got ssd and I'm running fstrim once a month, is it worth switching from 4gb to 8gb ram?
>>54019607
Really depends on what you're doing. I've got 16 in mine, but I run a load of VMs.
I'm planning to buy a new laptop and was decided to go with a T460, now I've found I could get a Dell Latitude E7470 with pretty much the same specs for pretty much the same price and I'm not so sure anymore.
I've come up with a few reasons to go for either one
T460
+ battery
+ better keyboard
+ 256gb ssd vs 128gb in the Latitude
E7470
+ better screen
+ ddr4 ram
+ a tiny bit lighter?
Help me out /g/
>>54019617
how are you running VMs, my browser crashes with just browsing the web
>>54019956
What the fuck? I, uh, installed VirtualBox, and received VMs...
>>54020048
I meant how can your x220 do stuff like running vms whereas mine struggles with shitposting
>>54011866
Someone once told here that in the old times there were 2 thinkpad keyboard manufacturers and their keyboards feel different. Indeed, my x60 feels different than my x200.
>>54020113
I don't know Anon, shit's fast as fuck with an mSATA SSD and 500GB spinnin disk. if yours isn't, I don't know what to tell you.
>>54020160
weird, gunna reboot and check my bios settings also mines only an i5`.-/::/-``
.-/osssssssso/. xxx@xxx
:osyysssssssyyys+- OS: Antergos
`.+yyyysssssssssyyyyy+. Kernel: i686 Linux 4.4.5-1-ARCH
`/syyyyyssssssssssyyyyys-` Uptime: 8d 6h 45m
`/yhyyyyysss++ssosyyyyhhy/` Packages: 1103
.ohhhyyyyso++/+oso+syy+shhhho. Shell: bash 4.3.42
.shhhhysoo++//+sss+++yyy+shhhhs. Resolution: 1366x768
-yhhhhs+++++++ossso+++yyys+ohhddy: DE: MATE 1.12.1
-yddhhyo+++++osyyss++++yyyyooyhdddy- WM: Metacity (Marco)
.yddddhso++osyyyyys+++++yyhhsoshddddy` GTK Theme: 'Numix-Frost' [GTK2/3]
`odddddhyosyhyyyyyy++++++yhhhyosddddddo Icon Theme: Numix-Square
.dmdddddhhhhhhhyyyo+++++shhhhhohddddmmh. Font: Sans 10
ddmmdddddhhhhhhhso++++++yhhhhhhdddddmmdy CPU: Intel Core i5-2540M CPU @ 3.3GHz
dmmmdddddddhhhyso++++++shhhhhddddddmmmmh GPU: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
-dmmmdddddddhhyso++++oshhhhdddddddmmmmd- RAM: 838MiB / 3449MiB
.smmmmddddddddhhhhhhhhhdddddddddmmmms.
`+ydmmmdddddddddddddddddddmmmmdy/.
`.:+ooyyddddddddddddyyso+:.`
>>54019956
>if turds are brown, why won't my car start?
>just got a T520 (my first memepad)
>fucking love it so much, by far my favorite laptop out of all the laptops i've owned
>feel a strong urge to waste money on another thinkpad even though i have zero use for one
is this how thinkpad collections start? h-help
>>54020237
Could be your distro, but I have no idea why that would make any difference. For the record, from power off to LightDM, my system takes about 2 seconds.
What do you T420 folks use to clean the top ov you covers?
>>54020257
lol. same thing happened to me. so I bought my 3 year old daughter one
>>54020257
>T520
You chose wisely, anon. Welcome to the based T520 club.
>>54019528
Come on guys it's simple just go to about:support and tell me if you got it enabled
>>54020257
I'm getting mine this weekend with a docking station, 9 cell and extra adapter. So looking forward to that.
>>54020850
Yes, on latest Fx.
>>54020537
damp cloth
>>54020551
good idea, i guess they are just about the most babby-proof computer there is
>>54020619
fuck yeah man, this thing's great. i'm glad i didn't listen to the people who insisted it was astronomical in size compared to the T420 (not that size was a very big concern for me anyway)
i was heavily leaning towards the T420, but people seemed REALLY split with regards to the shitty screen (in that regard, i'm a little surprised that it's the recommended model in the OP copypasta), so i opted for the T520 instead. got it for a fucking great price too (HD+ screen, i5 2520M, nvidia gpu, 8GB ram, 128GB SSD, lenovo brand 9 cell, fantastic condition, all for $170). left me room to get a nice HDD and a 2820QM. not sure if i'll opt to get a FHD screen.
>>54020862
you won't be disappointed, m8!
>>54020537
Cum
>>54019866
>+ 256gb ssd vs 128gb in the Latitude
That's a bullshit argument.
Just pick the cheapest option and upgrade the SSD yourself.
>+ ddr4 ram
No benefit over DDR3.
But doesn't the 460 also have DDR4?
In any case they are both fine laptops.
Personally went for the T460p because quad core.
>>54008128
Nope my evo is awesome
>>54020876
Stable? Are you running sandy bridge integrated?
>>54020934
>i'm glad i didn't listen to the people who insisted it was astronomical in size compared to the T420
People always gonna try to justify purchasing an objectively inferior machine. Fact of the matter is, the size difference between T420 and T520 is insignificant at best - they both weigh above 2kg, and the T520 only weighs 300g more than T420.
Meanwhile with the T520, you get a machine that is actually built for quadcore CPUs and will happily run with desktop-like temperatures while being quiet as fuck.
That is a great price senpai, jealous as I paid about 300 USD for mine. These things are more expensive here than in the US, unfortunately.
>>54020978
Ordered a 950 pro nvme. I'm not playing no bullshit.
need a new keyboard for my T430.
http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-546212338-teclado-thinkpad-t430-t430s-t530-w530-x230-espanol-original-_JM
Is this good? it's pretty cheap, around $30 US. Makes me think it might not be original. What do you guys suggest?
Also using this store because fast shipping in my same country.
>>54020998
Yes and yes.
>>54021076
How do you get hw decoding enabled then? I installed vaapi and stuff and I can get hw decoding but with mpv
>>54021076
I don't know, it just worked. I did nothing special. On Arch if that matters.
>>54021198
Meant to reply to:
>>54021180
>>54019528
negative on my x230
>>54021198
I'm on Arch too and it's a bit annoying when watching YouTube video power draw is around 13 or even 14W sometimes but in mpv it's 11 12W maximum
so i just got my first thinkpad t420 for a 120 bucks and it comes installed with windows 7 already. going to run malware bytes and ccleaner to make sure their isn't anything malicious but would it make more sense to just reinstall windows?
>>54021365
yeah if you have a license lying around. the registery can't ever be really cleaned unless you reinstall. or revert to a very early recovery.
Question for you guys. I recently acquired a x201s. The chassis and lid were in poor condition so I replaced them. After I swapped the mobo into the new replacement chassis I get invalid model and serial numbers on bootup. Is there anyway to reset this or fix it? Will a BIOS update help?
>t420 has a fingerprint scanner and LED light near camera for night time typing
Holy fuck this is utilitarian as shit and only costed $160? Why didn't I buy one before?
>>54021658
Where did you buy replacement parts? I'm looking at ebay, but the prices are retarded.
>>54021658
Flash the custom bios without the whitelist.
Should I buy a knock off replacement 9 cell battery for my x220? What are the risks?
UK lad here. Bought a T420 for £165, about $235. Specs are in pic related, did I get skanked? Came with original 9 cell battery and 500GB HDD
>>54022026
Please respond ;_;
>>54022213
I saw a 4GB, i5 2.5GHz, 250GB SSD go for £120 yesterday and your specs look better. What storage did you get?
Where did you get it from?
>>54006726
stupid questions thread gave me zero serious answers so I am asking here since there is no regular laptop general. don't give a shit if it's a think pad or not as long as it suits my needs and doesn't come with bios level rootkits and shit.
>Looking for a good laptop/tablet / ultrabook/tablet hybrid
> i5 or better
> 8gb or better
> 1920x1080 or better
> larger than a 13" screen if possible
> A bluray drive w/ software
> os doesn't matter
> hdmi, ethernet, headphone, usb 3.0 ports
> good battery life so I don't need to plug it in all the time
> Preferably the kind that bend over like pic related. The ones that detatch from the keyboard are retarded
>Preferably without retarded key placement, a full size or tenkeyless style keyboard, and A touchpad that actually has buttons to click
> two hdd slots if possible. I like to keep my os and data separate
> easy to access ram and hard drives as well as keyboard in case they need to be replaced.
I don't have any restrictions on budget but I don't want to buy anything with features I won't need( ie: leet gyman laptop)
>>54022510
storage was 500gb hard drive mentioned in my post, and from gumtree.
>>54022213
Not too bad, not brilliant, but I wouldn;t say you were ripped off.
>>54022825
cheers lad, condition is fantastic except for some keyboard shine
>>54022042
Why would it even trip the hardware check? I didn't replace any hardware, just a direct swap.
>>54022546
is the symbol for stand mode and laptop mode swapped?
>>54023012
I have no idea, it really shouldn't. That's how to fix it though.
>>54022289
x200s, x201s, and x201i have the same chassis fru number. Just buy the cheapest one that comes up.
>>54023031
looks like it
>>54023053
Just trawl ebay for a deal, then? Shit.
So come Friday I'm either going with the t420 or the t520. Is the full HD screen on the 520 decent? Are the colors and viewing angles and brightness acceptable? Is the size & weight difference actually noticeable?
Buying a laptop for school and need help purchasing one. My budget is around $500 and I'm down to blow all of it. What is the best laptop I can get. I understand the t420 and others are amazing for their price but I'm skeptical.
If a t420 or t520 is the truly the best for the price I'm down to pay for it.
>>54018018
>no logitech k120 on there.
Best shit basic new keyboard of them all.
I just installed a 2820QM in my T520. What sort of idle temps should I be getting? Speccy is reading 60-65C, which seems pretty high seeing as I just applied thermal paste.
>>54022206
Smaller than advertised capacity, probably no warranty. I bought the real 9 cell and its great, even with the bit it sticks out. Just be careful and you're fine
>>54023414
>>54023139
I bought my t420 for $160 from Craigslist. Core i5, 8gb of RAM, but I DID have to get a new battery and I'll probably get the recovery disks from lenovo. All in all, worth it. I'll probably use the optical drive as a secondary drive bay to store movies and TV shows
>>54018642
Any wallpapers like that but for other models, say, the x220?
>>54020934
>>54021031
So it sounds like the t520 is the one for me but what about te w520? Around me on Craigslist the price difference is almost non existent. Let me know thanks
