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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD (embed)
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Is there any downside to picking up an HP EliteBook besides the keyboard?
Whats a good 13" thinkpad with good battery life?
Does the X220 only have 5 hours?
>>53958874
Not directly. It's more so what you prefer, and getting the best you can get with your budget baring hardware,aesthetics, and quality. However your bound to get more Thinkpoint support and help on this board due to the popularity of Thinkpads.
>>53959040
X220 gets about an hour per cell on a good battery.
I'm thinking of falling for the Thinkpad meme. Is the w700 any good?
>>53959123
Specs haven't aged well for the price. More of a novelty item than a good Thinkpad for serious usage.
>>53959167
Are there any good 17" Thinkpads?
>>53959227
No, Get a W530 and a dock with dual monitors.
>>53959227
W701 would be more respectable, but they're all fairly rare and expensive compared to equivalent 15" models.
Is it possible to mod a x240 and install the x250 touchpad with buttons? I'm interested in one but I could get a t440p with discreet CPU for a little more money. Which should I get and why?
>>53959266
Looks like it has a shitty keyboard compared to other Thinkpads. Any other good ones?
>>53959657
>when the general itself calls you out
W520 then. i just said **30 because despite liking the **20 keyboard, i think the **30 looks a little bit nicer.
What and when was your last consumer laptop fuckup before you decided you'd had enough and went business class?
>HP DV9000
>2010
>LCD tube cable wrapped all up in a hole in the left hinge
>ruined within two years as the cable is so frayed
>17" laptop
>1.5mm thick hinges
>broken hinges within 2 years
>Even replacement hinges only lasted a year each
>LCD Cable is so frayed at this point you can't turn on the laptop without hitting the power button, quickly shoving the screen down
>1001 screws on everything
Fuck this literal scam product
>2012
>sell motherboard for $80 on ebay
>Get T61 for $120 at the time
>LCD cable has its own circular hinge and is flat so it won't fray
>hinges are thick and sturdy as fuck
>8 screws hold in like 90% of everything
>absolutely positively no problems ever with it
Consumer laptops are literally all shiny timebombs designed to get to you le buy it again
>>53959715
>hp dv4
>2011
>heated up to 99 degrees celsius
>opened it up, cleaned it, new paste
>still heats the fuck up
>hdd fails (prolly because it got so hot)
>trashed it (i was new to technology) built desktop pc
now i just got this x220, so far so good
>>53959715
>Lelnovo g50-80
>flexes like a piece of paper
>keyboard flexes for miles
>1366 on 15"
>5200rpm hard drive
>horrible wifi reception
>fan is never not on maximum with an i5-5200u
>i spent $400 on this shit because i didnt so research (my fault, i really needed a laptop at the time though)
About 4 months after buying that laptop I found my T420 on craigslist for under 1/2 i paid for that laptop with better specs all around. Still need to wipe and sell the fucker.
>>53959040
Really depends on what you're doing. You can get 9 hours with the wifi on if just reading text, but that drops off quick if watching video. Especially 1080p60 video, which takes 80-100% CPU and will drain even a new battery in 2-3 hours. (The hardware decoder doesn't seem to work on 60 fps content.)
>>53959715
>7 years ago
>need laptop for schoolwork
>Buy a sony Vaio
>felt pretty flimsy
>that's about it
Got a free ps3 for being a student, although looking back the Vaio hardware was pretty bad for the time.
>>53959715
>HP zt3000
>very nice 1920x1200 screen especially for 2006, but not enough GPU to drive it
>XP didn't have good text scaling
>power jack on the right side right where I want to put my mouse
>runs very hot
>lousy battery life by 2008
>power jack broke, then power adapter broke, then replaced it with a universal one and the GPU died
>HP refuses to fix under extended warranty
Replaced in early 2009 with a Latitude E6400 that's somehow still working.
>>53958874
I can't type on a 8740w or 8570w... but i'm fine with a E6400 or E6420.
>>53959123
Get it for collectors... because there really isn't a reason to have one since the P70 is the latest 17" ThinkPad.
I was disappointing with the keyboard flex it had.
The wacom digitizer was kind of odd to use specially since I had an X61T for years... I maybe only used a wacom tablet for 2 months before i got tired of it.
>>53959715
I had a Toshiba Satellite A205 about 4 years ago.
>15" shitty screen
>Pentium T2230? I think
>2GB of DDR2 memory
It was flimsy as fuck, the trackpad sucked ass, and the keyboard felt like moist cardboard.The hinges also wobbled to all fuck, and the ribbon cable to the LCD eventually died. When I took the machine apart to scavenge what I could, I saw that the LCD cable was frayed -- inside the machine.
That was the last straw for me. Immediately after that, I started with a T400, quickly upgraded to an X220 Tablet, moved on to an X230 Tablet and sold the X220, moved on to a T430 and sold the X230, and now I'm waiting on getting a P40 Yoga.
>>53959715
>ASUS A55VD
>i5-3230m and GT 610m
>610m literally weaker than the integrated graphics
>1366x768 on 15.6" laptop
>unusable clickpad
>shitty chiclet keyboard
>$580
After a couple years of using that abomination I heard about Thinkpads from a buddy who said they were dirt-cheap laptops that were good for programming. Picked up a T60 for $60, saw the light, and never looked back. I've spent the past year and a half upgrading nearly every single part in it, and even after trying newer Thinkpads with better specs and battery life in better condition, none of them really appealed to me the way my T60 did. I fucking love this laptop.
My T420 just ded. What should I buy, another T420, T430 or X230?
I already have T60, X200 & X220.
the other image with all the keycap shapes was better
also, t61p/x200 master race (just kidding they're old as shit and I really, really wish I had modern processing power with such a sturdy chassis and 16:10 screens)
THIS OP IMAGE IS AMAZING
Whenever I try to click on "Go to Lenovo Settings" in the power manager, I get the message in pic related. Does anyone know how to fix this?
>>53960438
T430 with 900p panel.
>>53960474
Whatever happened to that T50 project? There was some chinese company that made 100 boards or so, you had to have a T40 and replace the motherboard but it supported core i series mobile along with DDR3, or something.
>>53960629
they moved on to putting broadwell mobos in x61s
>>53960520
yeah, download the lenovo settings app in the app store
>>53960653
I really hope we get a T61-sized board out of that project. T602F would be an absolute dream.
>>53960665
Thank you, it's working now. I guess that should have been obvious seeing as how it brought up the Windows Store window.
>>53959715
This is my kind of post,
HP Pavilion DV6-3010us
2.3GHz turion
4GB DDR3 1333
320GB WD scorpio that I still use in an enclosure
Radeon HD4240 mobility
Good machine on paper, but it overheated, the case fell apart, the 15.6 inch display got all floppy and it was just complete crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAaPnPseIZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0s763LfAVg
Then I got an Optiplex and eventually a Latitude and life is good.
>>53960805
>HD4240 mobility
HD4250 mobility*
>>53958737
My IPS screen for my x200 came in today. I ordered a matte panel, and it was a glossy one arrived. I decided to install it anyways. I plugged it in and tested it, and black smoke started rising from the display cable of my x200. I unplugged it right away, and I looked for the model number on the panel itself(I had trusted the model on the ebay listing). It was a completely different panel.
I was very surprised that my x200 still worked when I put the stock panel back in.
>>53961346
what panel was it?
>>53961809
This is what I ordered:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351605038825
The model number of the panel I got was N121L2-L01.
>>53958737
what msata pcie ssd do u guys recommend for the x230, already have a 480 ssd in the main bay
I just love my Carbon X1 thinkpad running the all new Windows 10. Sleek sexy design meets unparalleled performance and productivity in a unibody carbon fiber construction.
Andrew Coral
- Satisfied Lenovo User
>>53961922
looks sweet man
Are these idle temps normal? CPU constantly changing from 49-53. Idk just seems really high comparedto my desktop.
>>53962169
Thats about 2-5c higher idle than my 2620m t420 does.
>>53958737
my t420 LCD backlight is always on even when the laptop is off
fml
>>53962169
That's in the normal range. You can clean the fan and repaste your CPU and maybe shave off a few degrees but don't expect it to ever run as cool as a desktop. Don't worry about it either way, the CPU is fine if it doesn't run for extended periods over 90 or so.
>>53959715
Some Acer piece of shit. It actually wasn't that bad with an SSD in it but its battery life was less than two hours and it choked hard on Android Studio so I built a quadcore T420 and now everything's coming up milhouse
>>53962214
>and now everything's coming up milhouse
lol
>>53962169
i7 run hotter. That's why I get the the mid or even the lowest spec cpu for shitpostan & browsan only laptop. Try using thinkfan
>>53959715
I'm pretty spoiled. I've always had business-class laptop hardware. My dad gave me some ancient Thinkpad back when I was a kid (don't know which model, but it ran Win95). Wish I'd kept it.
I went for a while with desktops only. When I eventually landed the job I have now I started getting hand-me-downs they were going to scrap. I had a Compaq Evo N600C (Pentium III era), then a Dell Latitude D810 then a D410 (both Pentium M, Benis era I think).
Then I finally picked up a T60p. What a fucking machine.
>>53960487
Glad you liked it :^)
>>53960474
Yeah, I agree. Shame OP didn't use that one. Looked a lot more uniform.
Might buy a T61 that is being sold for parts.
No ram, hard drive, or battery.
If I indeed get this working with the parts I have around, is it able to take mSATA SSD's in it's MiniPCI Express slot? That would be fucking neat.
>>53962518
No. Only *20 series and up can do msata SSD. That means X220, T420, T520, and W520 and up. Since it's a T series, if you don't care about your DVD drive, get a hard drive caddy.
>>53962548
That's a shame. Thanks
>>53959715
>want laptop for school work
>become obsessed with thinkpads because /g/ meme
>buy a T420 for something like $200
>thing came with a fucked battery along with this weird textured surface on the lid that seems to be hot glued on
>still love the thing
What a great first ever laptop.
Now what I really want these days is that PC110 palmtop thinkpad because that thing looks ultra comfy
>>53962366
I'm pretty spoiled. I've always had business-class laptop hardware. My dad gave me some ancient Thinkpad back when I was a kid (don't know which model, but it ran Win95). Wish I'd kept it.
Yes, imagine the hipster cred you'd have with it and also wearing your fedora.
What is the best CPU you can get on a T420 without changing the mobo? Is it worth upgrading from the 2520M/2450M?
Broke the eeprom on that t520. Is there a way I can order a new one, copy a blank one over, and then sell it refurbished?
>>53962711
I'm also curious. Are some CPU generations incompatible?
>>53962760
>/g/
>/tpg/
>X series tablet
>not furry artist
Suggest you start now
D-Did I do good?
![113485155[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NzLW8FZ.jpg "113485155[1].jpg")
Which model of Elitebook are these? Haven't been able to find an exact match with the same blue keys.
>>53962896
shipping?
Hey /g/uys, I'm gonna buy pic related very soon. However there's one problem: it's not available with US keyboard layout (europoor here), and we all know US layout is best for programming.
Where can I find a replacement keyboard or keycaps? If not, how easy is it to erase the marking on the keys? I prefer a blank keyboard than having the wrong symbols
>>53962953
18.50 USD :/
>>53962962
remap the keys you fucking mongo
>>53962967
you did well enough if the laptop is in good condition
>>53962896
That pretty good if the laptop is in good to near mint condition.
>>53962999
seems like it to me
>>53963019
It looks like it has been taken care of, but has also seen a lot of use. But it may yet last an even longer time. These machines are built for it.
>>53963034
Mostly using it for programming, and probably going to make it my first linux machine. Nothing too heavy.
tfw you get 1-2 more hours battery on windows 7 but you have to deal with shitty middle click / scroll drivers.
![IMG_6018[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lMEqPUe.jpg "IMG_6018[1].jpg")
I've been wanting a big 17" laptop with at least a 1920x1200 screen for a while now. But I don't have much to spend.
I've sort of zeroed in on the the HP Elitebook 8740w. It seems like this laptop goes for under $250 on ebay and comes with the older i5's for that price.
The only downside I've consistently mentioned with this laptop is low battery life. Is there anything else to look out for?
>>53962896
>Windows 7 COA still on the bitch
Nice, I typically run a crack but being legit is always handy.
Just bought a t20 today. ig 2540m, 6gb ram, 500gb hafd drive 1600x900 screen.
$200 and came with a docking station too
I do need a new battery quite badly. Which 9 cell battery do buy off of amazon?
>>53963159
t420*
i have a weed meme laptop lol
>>53963169
I like the weed model nomenclature, I can use my machine as a conversation piece among normies.
>>53963169
>>53963178
"it stands for Toke 420 bro haha"
I need to find a W530 w/ i7 and K2100M GPU
ebay has declined payment several times...
>>53963156
Actually, pretty sure the HD is wiped so no OS at all
>>53963289
That's nothing, you can torrent that image, but having a key is great.
>>53962980
And then the physical keys will magically move around too?
>>53963289
Download the legit Windows 7 image via torrent (check the hash to make sure it is untampered with), and then use the key from the sticker.
>>53963352
Fuck using the physical keys, retard.
>>53962962
>it's not available with US keyboard layout
Isn't that the US keyboard in the picture?
>>53963383
Yes, it's just a random image I found.
>>53963367
>Fuck using the physical keys, retard.
wut?
The only thing I regret about my T420 is not being able to play Europa Universalis 4 when I'm at university
D-Damn
>>53963403
For reference.
>>53963403
> I'm gonna buy pic related
Why not buy the model with the keyboard you like?
Or if you're buying some specific laptop from a guy, clearly you know at this point there is a US keyboard layout available. All you have to do is buy it from ebay or amazon.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-Yoga-4-backlit-Keyboard-US-/161936190255?hash=item25b4262b2f:g:4hoAAOSwGotWiNUs
Didn't you already think of this?
Anyone connected their Thinkpad via Mini DP to HDMI? I got a cable (Mini DP male to HDMI male) which my T430s recognizes, but doesn't display anything
Someone suggested an 'Active' adapter, with a separate male to male HDMI cable.
Thoughts?
Is there any drawback to the X230 compared to the X220?
>>53963712
Search for keyboard comparisons, a lot of people dislike the kb on the X230.
>>53963750
Do you know if the performance difference between the G2 and G3 of the i5 is significant?
I bought an X220 on ebay, but just saw that there's an X230 with 128GB SSD for about $60 more. Not sure if I should try to cancel the order to get it.
>>53963773
If you don't mind the 6 row keyboard, the newer ivy bridge is better, faster chip, faster graphics on the chip, and that one got an SSD for only $60 more.
whatever happened to those questionnaires we answered a year ago or so regarding the perfect thinkpad?
WHAT BATTERY DO I BUY FOR MY T420?
thanks
>>53960629
>>53960653
>>53960703
T50 wasn't released due to unspecified 'problems' that needed to be fixed.
The problems never got fixed.
The X62 is now in the same state; there are unspecfied 'display problems' that need to be fixed before a full run. They claimed there would be an update beginning of march. It's now April and the project has been radio silence.
So, about par for the course. Believe it when you have one in your hands. Until then, they're just lolware.
>>53963434
>>53963468
I'm not gonna buy it used. It's a special offer for students, and I can get it pretty cheap (Yoga 260 with i7 CPU for ~1400$ instead of over 2000$). Since I don't live in the US, they're obviously not selling it with a US keyboard.
Now I've looked around on eBay if I can find one shipped from the US, but it's more expensive and I'll have to pay outrageous shipping costs and taxes on top of that.
Now whatever keyboard I have I'll remap it to US anyways on the OS level, plus with ans ISO layout I'll get one more key for free. I can touch type, so I don't need the physical layout to match the logical layout. But it kind of bothers me if they don't (inb4 autism). That's why I asked if, as a last resort, there exist some stickers made for turning it into a blank keyboard (or if I could use nail polish remover or something without melting of the keycaps)
please respond >>53963844
>>53958737
I am considering buying a W530, i7 quad-core + ht, full hd.
Anything I should know? Advices ?
>>53964355
You are so fucking stupid. "Kind of bothers me." You never fucking look at it.
>>53962962
>>53963352
>>53964355
I'm in the same boat too. I'm quite comfortable opening my laptop up and changing the kb, if it's within practical realms. I change screens on phones all the time.
I'm hopefully ordering a yoga next week, and it'll be a used one, as comparing it to a newer ones I don't see the point paying twice the dollaroos for such a minimal update. Only thing would be the fact that it's new, and upgradeable ram. I think I'll manage with 8GiB, though, for the time being.
Are the keys backlit? If not, maybe I'll just tape some stickers on the caps as I don't 99.99999% of the time need to see the kb. Only with maybe `´ characters I have to look down and search 'em.
>>53962760
>>53965100
Heh, if Lenovo made a high res, 14 incher tablet, I'd buy that motherfucker.
>>53964355
>there exist some stickers made for turning it into a blank keyboard (or if I could use nail polish remover or something without melting of the keycaps)
you really have to ask us this? Of course there are some fucking stickers out there.
google it next time, retard
What's something relatively cheap with a 1080p screen? I have an X220t but the resolution really gets on my nerves.
>>53965275
T520 with a 1080p is nice, or you can get the T510 before it with a glorious 1920x1200.
>>53965338
I take back what I said, the T510 is also 16:9, get the T520 with the newer sandy bridge.
>>53965152
P40 Yoga.
Just purchased a used x240, fucking thing still has 20 months warranty left.
Got a good deal, and it comes with the mid-specs at 8 gigs ram, the i5 and the 128 ssd but with no touch and with the 1376x res. I can live with that, but the meme trackpad worries me. Replacing that shit is doable but a hassle, will I get used to the thing, /g/, or should I order a x250 trackpad or bezel right now?
>>53965386
CHANGE IT YOU LITTLE SHIT
N O W
>>53965398
Laptop arrives tomorrow so I can't do it right this minute, lad.
>>53965386
I get triggered just looking at that touchpad, can you even disable it so only the buttons work?
![0885631098721[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WUBfcaG.jpg "0885631098721[1].jpg")
>>53959715
>>53960805
>dv6
Oh god
>overheating is a big problem
>went to repair more than 5 times
>wifi would randomly stop working
>drivers on hp website years out of date
>graphic drivers install get BSOD and you end up with a fucked up system
What's the ETA on the Retro Thinkpad?
I want to buy X201 tablet with actual touchscreen (working with fingers)
Is it true that tablets without this big glass shit in front of screen have multi touch displays?
>>53965426
Yeah, synclient MaxTapTime=0 werks iirc
>>53958737
The OP image is not properly centered and it triggered me
here, I fixed it.
>>53965455
It's still not balanced. The center leans towards the left.
>>53965455
How is it this hard?
Center a circle on a 500x500 plane.
Add three round-corner squares, centered on the origin, then pad them out the same amount of pixels.
After doing that, add a second circle, a set amount of pixels greater in diameter than the first, that is masked to only show on the keys.
You could fucking make it in html5, for christ's sake.
>>53958737
Why when I press the ThinkVantage button during boot it takes me to windows recovery instead of BIOS?
>>53965438
anyone?
>>53965809
I could ask the same question about an ETA on when the NBN is coming to my house and I'd get a similar response: NEVER
>>53965629
>>53965527
>>53965476
>>53965455
ITT: we find out tp owners are also ocd
>>53965833
Yeah we do have OCD, ever since getting my thinkpad, my hairline has receded, I'm saying beecwooz, and I don't want to mess with anything that isn't a classic thinkpad.
I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X201 Tablet and I was wondering if I could get a backlit keyboard for it?
>>53965942
most likely not
Anyone have a thinkpad 240z? (xsauc?)
Thinking of getting one for something portable and cheap. How is the screen?
>>53958737
are t60 with 1400x1050 ips displays any good?
>>53966258
it sounds like it would desu
>>53966099
>Introduced: June 1999; 16 years ago
Why?
I have an old T61 with an SSD
The fan has gone nuts and it makes too much noise. I'm not in the US right now so it costs way too much to get a new one.
Anyone ever just removed their fan? Is this stupid?
>>53966623
Yeah, you can take it out with no issues, the T61 is so cool it doesn't really need a fan.
>>53966630
Cool thanks.
Hey /g/, I need your help!
I want to buy a T460 with a US layout keyboard, but I need the possibility to insert Finnish letters (ä and ö) without having to use the on-screen keyboard.
I imagine this is impossible to find, but apparently an AltGr key exists that allows me to do almost what I want, but I don't see such a key on the latest Thinkpads.
What can I do /g/?
>>53962962
Replacement Keyboards should be available in several Laptop online shops.
>>53966869
Configure the keyboard as US International, then you can input all sorts of exotic çǎṙâćƭëřʂ
can you play games on t420? i understand new games are a no go but stuff like dark souls, tree of savior, ck2 or dota?
X220 vs X220t
Which is superior?
>>53967723
I tested LoL in a t400. It can run at 60 fps (roughly 40 at high demanding moments like team fights) on low graphics and low resolution.
It all comes down to how many fps you want and if you don't bother playing at low graphics/resolution in most cases.
>>53967723
The dedicated GPU is equivalent to a GT 520m. Don't expect any miracles.
>>53967942
I prefer my X220 since I really don't use the tablet function..
How long should a new battery last in a thinkpad x200t with debian8 lxde? I got a used one with a battery that 'holds a charge, used', but it only lasts about an hour and 10 minutes.
>poorfag edition
Hey guise, just finished installing XP on my new ThinkPad R32 that I got at the flea market today for $2.50. I might drop $10 to max it out to 1GB of DDR RAM. What should I use it for besides comfy bedposting? I'll post pics if anyone's interested.
>>53968195
Get puppy linux, you'll get performance faster than an SSD, since it runs entirely in RAM.
>>53967334
Thank you, that worked.
I'll need to get used to doing RightAlt + q but that's fine
>>53966344
>>53966099
because hipster / special snowflake
>Thinking of getting one for something portable
>implying you're going to be able to find a working battery for it
End result is taking 1001 pictures of it plugged into the wall and ending up on >>>/vr/
>>53958737
NotebookCheck's review of the X1 carbon (2016):
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-2016-Core-i7-WQHD-Ultrabook-Review.162631.0.html
>>53968897
>http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-2016-Core-i7-WQHD-Ultrabook-Review.162631.0.html
>soldered ram
>>53958737
guys, any fixes for broken off rubber 'screen holders' on my x230 tablet?
The things at the side that prevent the screen from sliding around
>>53969359
Replacing palmrest?
>>53969359
Replace the keyboard bezel.
>>53969380
I mean the ones next to the keyboard, that stick up. They have both broken off on me after 6 months of use.
running elementary os on my x220
randomly the fan starts throttling really high
i download a process manager and nothing's taking a lot of CPU...
what gives?
>>53967942
X220 is lighter, has a slightly better screen (if you buy IPS), and has a better battery life.
X220T has a tablet feature.
It depends on what you like, but I like the X220 now. I always tell myself I'll practice drawing with the X220T, but I never do.
>>53963203
top tier keyboard
>>53969401
I can't find that anywhere. Expired offers, yes, but no current ones.
What's Dell's version of T430?
>>53965629
if you guys want to be really OCD about it, tat circle in the middle isnt a perfect circle, and all of the dots on the trackpoint aren't uniformly spreaded apart from eachother.
>>53963590
What OS are you running? Mine works like a charm on my t430. Get a mini dp to dp cable to see if it works or if your motherboard has a dud mini dp out.
>>53965386
I'm about to but one for the wife. It definately looks like a geat little laptop.
Cs student here got a MacBook already.
But I need a Linux machine mainly for programming. $200 max budget.
Looking a t420 a x220 obviously.
How heavy is the t420? Is it battery life really that shitty?
And which one would be a better deal under $200?
>>53962943
Did some research. Looks like they're saying this is the HP Elitebook 6930p. Looks more like the HP Elitebook 8540p in my opinion.
i made a classic keyboard version.
i did this all just using GIMP and the trackpoint, so it's not perfect but i think it looks nice.
>>53970033
>>53963096
tpmiddle bro
>>53969742
clean your thinkpad you disgusting whore
>>53970548
>pampering a chinkpad
you should get a mbp, anon.
>>53970587
I just use a damp microfiber cloth to scrub over all the keys and exterior every 2-4 weeks. That's like 3-6 minutes of effort per month. And keeps your thinkpad from looking disgusting.
They're even so fucking easy to clean.
>>53970247
mine looks better because it actually has the curves on the keys so that it could fit the trackpoint, that one looks lazy and ugly
>>53963096
>Tokyo Ghoul
Nice. If only you didn't use Windows.
Also, I believe there's software on GNU/Linux to improve battery life.
>>53961922
let me help you out there
install
>o&o shutup 10 to disable ridiculous windows spyware
>classic shell so the ui isn't slow as fuck
>manually turn off cortana assistant and internet searching from start
>lenovo windows 10 apps for settings and battery management
>use power saver profile; manually limit CPU usage to 50% and power efficiency to 99%
have fun
>>53969545
E6430
>>53962962
replace the trackpad if you're really going to get a haswell abomination [spoiler]like I did[/spoiler]
>>53963096
>1-2 more hours battery on windows 7
compared to what? linux? or windows 10?
>>53970824
i used tlp and powertop on gnu/linux, i tried everything, but windows drivers > linux drivers in terms of battery, but the trackpoint drivers in linux are better than in windows desu
>>53965435
I am currently sitting here with a completely dead hp DV6 of a friends mom who needed help when it wouldn't boot
I told her it was dead and helped her get a new skylake acer for less than $500
still consumer shit but it wont break in 3 years.
>>53970969
linux
>>53969529
this is pretty badass
>>53962962
I use the US keyboard layout every day, and I'm from commie Denmark. I even have (in Windows) an autohotkey script that maps rightAlt + (;'[) to æoå. Shit's good.
I would prefer a US layout, but I don't look at my keys as I type, so I don't care
>>53965809
from a youtube interview with a Lenovo higher up managing the whole thing it's going to take a while; end of 2017 at the earliest
the biggest issue is getting either a 3:2 or 16:10 screen. They're very expensive to get in a 14" or 15" size and in bulk. Essentially I'd guess another two intel generations at least
>>53971005
huh. maybe for older and full voltage processors it's different but, with properly configured linux, I get 1-2 hours battery life better than windows 10 on my ulv haswell thinkpad.
what I'd recommend it
>make sure you have tlp installed
>make sure you have linux-tools for x86 power efficiency installed
and it should work like fucking magic
I have 50wh out of the original 56wh and I can get 7 hours of web browsing on linux and 9-10 hours of typing/notetaking with wifi turned off
I should also mention that this is on a 1080p IPS touchscreen with 50% brightness
>>53963156
>using a user subjugating OS.
>>53971083
yup, on my broadwell laptop, on linux i get better battery life, but on sandybridge (x220) i get better battery life on windows
thats pretty good use desu senpai , i need to get a 9cell so i can get that good 6+ hours SOT
>>53958737
I really want an X220t.
Can anyone name any actual disadvantages? I'm currently using the T430s as my standard laptop. But that 7 row keyboard, and the turning screen (sorry, I'm a sucker for shit like that)...
Anyone?
>>53971114
yeah, I'm basically a battery life nut
Do you fags enjoy playing with your nipples?
It took me 10 attempts to post this due to fucking terrible image captcha's.
>>53971139
ayyy
hopefully soon i can be too, with a 9cell.
currently on win7 with full brightness and not being conservative i can get 4 hours out of my chinese 6cell.
on linux, at 30% brightness and being conservative, i can get 4 hours. ;-;
>>53971157
4chanx
recaptcha v1 in the options
>>53971172
yeah, honestly thats whats keeping me from embracing old thinkpads for daily use
ULV Intel cpus are too god damned brilliant. You just gotta make sure that you dont get a garbage thinkpad because half of them are just that
>>53960520
I used to get that too anon. So I just got an older version or something. I asked that here once and they laughed.
>2016
>not using two bar stools as a desk
>>53971195
i cant argue with that, if i could, id like an x220, 9cell, 1080p ips, ssd and i7 ulv , would be the perfect thinkpad desu, infact just an ssd upgrade and a 9cell, maybe a bump to 8gb of ram is already really comfy and pretty much a portable workhouse.
also desu, despite the ULV's being great on battery, i feel like sandybridge cpu's perform better, this may sound stupid / placebo, but i use my x220 alot more than my i7-5500u laptop (940m, 8gb ram, 1tb hdd, standard hp shit desu) because the x220 throttles way less and can maintain a heavy workload for alot longer, however my other laptop will do great for about 10-15 minutes then it will throttle and become a POS. ._. thats to do with the vents though, so i guess i cant blame ULV processors, its more like HP's fault.
>>53971209
>not using a desk you found on the curb
>>53970787
Have you looked at an actual keyboard with trackpoint?
>mfw mine is an actual photograph that just has some lines overlaid
>>53971298
what are those stickers in the T420?
>>53971298
Sweet HP man
>>53971298
I've got that same sticker in the middle.
What OS you running?
>>53971307
yes i have, i used a photo reference for my picture too
even though you used a photo reference its still fuckin inaccurate
look at how the surface of the keycaps dont touch the trackpoint, in yours it does for some reason
also why did you add a outline at the surface too? looks like shit, and there's a noticable gap inside the outlines you added too, that 1px looks so gross
and also the trackpoint has an outline on it too for some reason, which is aliased also
>>53971393
a e s t h e t i c s
>>53971363
https://supporters.eff.org/shop/illegal-spying-eagle-sticker and the other one is just a stylised sun.
>>53971377
What works works anon.
>>53971393
Xubuntu 15.10
Is there no problem in putting a 7.5mm SSD into a Thinkpad, which originally has a 9mm one?
>>53971179
>recaptch
It took me 10 attempts to post this reply....actually I lie. I gave up after 10 attempts as it said I got it wrong every fucking time. I get the long complicated recaptcha's using v1 option.
>>53971429
No, you could just make a cardboard spacer if it bothers you.
>>53971428
DUDE! How the hell did you get it to work with the docking station?!
I'm running Ubuntu MATE 15, and the shit gets so glitchy when I try docking it.
>>53971450
Is a spacer necessary?
Isn't that a fire risk?
>>53971429
Nope just use the little adapter they give you or just use paper and tape or whatever to make it touch the top. You don't want it banging around when you're moving it. Not nearly as important for doing this for a hard drive and you could probably get away with it, with the SSD it's more about not wanting the sata port to experience stress and move around.
>>53971469
>Laptop turns off well before 100C
>ignition point of cardboard is 420C
>>53971471
I see. As I asked earlier, is it okay to use paper or duct tape for this?
>>53971451
it just works. i have never had a problem with it besides having to rearrange my screens every once and a while.
>>53971518
With mine, I'll pop it on, start it, then login, and my panel disappears. It will tell me it can't fit the screen ratio, so I try to change it in terminal (this was before I started working with Openbox) and the screen goes black saying it can't find the source anymore. Try to dock it while it's on, and it just goes to sleep. I have a docking station and a screen here which are completely useless right now.
>>53962188
Buy t420 dock
Take out battery, plug power into dock, when you turn off t420 unplug dock promptly after
>>53962786
Its a matter of lottery, you can have the same socket but if the chipset is different youre gonna have a bad time
>>53971428
I loved mine as my 3rd screen but power button decided to die :(
>>53971514
Paper yes
Duct tape no because over time the glue/adhesive will melt.
>>53971649
So nothing with glue? OK.
>>53971209
>>53971298
>not using a tractor as a desk
>>53971397
>even though you used a photo reference its still fuckin inaccurate
Not reference. It's an actual photo.
>look at how the surface of the keycaps dont touch the trackpoint, in yours it does for some reason
Because the trackpoint top flange overlaps the keys on all ThinkPad keyboards since the T22 days. It overlaps even more since they ditched the seven-row.
Even on the R3200, a soft-dome actually touches the G and H keys.
>>53961866
That was a mistake then. When buying Laptop screens you probably shouldn't go by what says "compatible" in the description.
Though when I did my X200 I bought a whole display assembly for whatever Gateway convertible laptop that was, which came with the correct Boe Hydis panel. I wouldn't necessarily recommend that either because cutting off the digitizer takes forever when you're afraid of nicking the screen underneath with your scalpel blade.
>>53972233
They advertised it as having the model number "HV121WX4-120" and it did not. If it was a HV121WX4-120 it would have worked fine.
>>53971429
actually, lelnovo has a 7mm to 9.5mm rubber rail kit for HDD and it also works with SSDs:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Thinkpad-lenovo-T420-T520I-7mm-to-9-5mm-hdd-rubber-rail-or-hard-drive-caddy-/172118894771
I'm sure you can get lower prices.
>>53972330
that's the thing, they say it's "for" the Boe Hydis HV121WX4-120 they don't say it "is" one. And they very deliberately blurred out the labels on the pictures they posted, and the first one doesn't even look like the back of a Boe Hydis screen.
Unfortunately the guy who was clearing out the Gateway E-155c screens seems to be out of them so I don't have any good recommendations on who to buy from.
>>53969909
T420 weighs about 2.2kg(4.93lb) and the X220, 1.55kg(3.5lb)
Both have the exact same keyboard but the X220 has an IPS display in select models(T420 only has TN)
>>53958737
>>53965629
>not using Helvetica for the letters
>>53970033
much better but it lacks the bumps of the trackpoint
>>53963112
pls respond /tpg/
>>53969934
I think it has to be one of the 17" models.
I am clean installing windows 7 on my x220. I got windows 7 installed, but what should I install next. What do you guys install? Wifi driver would be my choice, but there are two options available one driver from thinkpad and one from intel. The one from thinkpad is newer.
>>53971424
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>>53973048
there are 2 types of wireless chips so it depends what you have, the Thinkpad wireless is the basic option that doesn't have multiple antennas or the 5.2ghz band. Look up your service tag on lenovo's website if you want to know for sure what's in there, otherwise just try installing the Intel package first and if it doesn't find the right hardware it will give you an error.
Besides that, you should install the Lenovo touchpad driver, hotkey integration (to make the Fn keys work) and power manager, and the Intel chipset, display and ethernet drivers from Intel's site. Maybe also the USB 3 driver if you have a core i7 version of the x220.
That should be everything you actually need.
Which 12" | 13" | 14" business laptops of about the same age and specs as X220 | T420 have trackpoints?
The 2560p, the 8460p, the E6420 and the E6320 all do, and the E6220 does not.
Is there anything else that does?
Some Toshiba or something?
>>53964355
Just get whatever laptop you want and order a new keyboard with the layout you want from the eBay.
>>53972928
Could be. I'll look more into it. Let me know if you find it. It really does not look like the 6930p.
Comfy t420 sunday senpai
I need a dollar mouse pad. Better check out mouse pad general
>>53975797
>mfw I'm seriously considering getting a /tpg/ mouse pad
I already have one of the exploded t420 wallpaper in the mail though...
>>53975797
>zomboy - like a bitch
>stattrack glock
>miller high life
greetings white America incarnate
Who comfy here?
>>53976814
OH SHIT NIGGER, WHAT ARE YOU DOING!
>>53971393
Where can I get that no rice no life sticker?
>>53976924
>1st hit on google
http://www.redbubble.com/people/xebec/works/14576683-no-rice-no-life
>>53976822
Meandering down a long US highway while browsing /tpg/
Thinkpad T420 sits in my lap whenever I'm at a light, but generally sits next to me while moving
x201t vs x220t, /tpg/?
>>53977016
X220T
>>53962943
Those aren't elitebooks. The model is NC6400.
Any one here have experience with Lenovo Thinkpad X220i? I have been looking at an action that is currently at 85€
Just picked up a 755CD with the original OS/2 install. Wat do?
>>53976794
St. Louis Missouri, go Cardinals
who /white/ here
>>53977309
its just a x220 with a shit processor.
>>53977376
So are you saying it is not worth it?
>>53977376
It comes with 8BG of ram and 80GB ssd.
>>53977413
What CPU, if it's a Celeron, it's going to be slower than an X200.
>>53977437
It has a i3-2310M
>>53958737
So after a bit of thought, I've decided on getting myself a T420. Newegg sells refurbished ones for $200. Should I buy one there and upgrade with hd+ screen and SSD?
>>53977469
You can snag one for less on ebay, but not as guaranteed that you'll get one in as nice of a condition as the newegg refurbished ones.
>>53977469
Specs?
Newegg models tend to have medicore hardware for the price. If you don't mind bidding on ebay, that's the way to get the most bang for your buck. If you don't have time, even "buy it now" options tend to have better hardware than newegg. Just make sure you read the descriptions carefully so you know exactly what your getting.
Hey /tpg/.
I am looking to buy a T420 for work. I was just in the current desktop thread and someone told me their T420 came with a not so great display and that Lenovo changed the TFT over the course of the release of the T420 model. I was wondering if you knew how to avoid getting the worse screen.
>>53958737
Is there a way to upgrade a ThinkPad's RAM to 32GB? How easily available are batteries for it?
>>53977557
Get a W520 my nigga, cheap and can have 32gb of the good good.
>>53977557
Depends on the model, for example the W520 with a quad core cpu can support up to 32gb, while the x220 and t420 can only support up to 16gb.
http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide
Read this guide, click on the model you want to know about. For the newest models hit up the official lenovo website.
