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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
>>53683242
Well shit.
Did you ever get the nvidia card working on this bitch? I can't fucking get it to work under Ubuntu the way I want it to
>>53683647
sorry, i only have integrated.
>>53683671
Well fuck me. I really want to get the nvidia card working correctly but I can't get it to do the things I want it to do
how do I use the fingerprint reader in linux ?
t420 fag here
Can somebody explain me better full voltage vs low voltage?
Seems like *30 are the latest full voltage CPUs and are still very fast even compared to new CPUs. Is this true?
T430/X230 are literally the best price/performance if you don't mind the 6 row chiclet keyboard.
*40 are a fucking downgrade though.
>>53683723
irrelevant cost/eff shit. That's the main reason the **2* series is still the recommended one around here.
Sandy's still going stronk
>>53683723
Old low voltage CPU's are poo, Haswell/Skylake are fine though.
They typically have boost clocks to compete with their full-voltage counterparts, but the cooling systems designed around them are not designed to continually run at the full boost speed. So you will probably experience thermal throttling and the core clock lowering back down.
It mostly comes down to the cooling, basically they aren't meant for hours of gaming or rendering or compiling things. Unless the cooling system can keep up. In which case it would be weird for that laptop to have a low voltage CPU yet be big enough for a cooling system that good.
>>53683970
this. my i5-5200u likes to be 1.7 ghz when im playing games. How i regret buying that laptop.
>>53683970
Haslel and Skymeme are the only ones capable of competing with Sandy Vag and Ivy Britches
>just got thinkpad (t520)
>boots perfectly fine
>removed cum encrusted keyboard to clean it
>replace it
>suddenly, computer wont boot (turns on for one second and dies)
what the fuck could i have possibly done to fuck that up, god damn
any advice?
>>53684187
Try reseating RAM.
Oh shit, I realised I didn't put the title in the thread.
Should I create a new one?
>>53684403
It's fine.
>>53684187
>the cum was holding everything together
>>53683723
>*40 are a fucking downgrade though.
How so?
>>53683195
cost me $350
How cucked I am?
>>53684421
True, it does come up if you search for 'tpg' in the catalog.
>>53684461
forgot pic lmao
>>53684358
thanks for the advice, but that didn't seem to help
any other ideas?
>>53684429
i messed with engineering beyond my comprehension
the previous owner used semen as a solder replacement
>>53684461
>>53684481
$350 for IPS, SSD and 16 GB of RAM. That's pretty good.
>>53684481
>Core i7
>Them tiny drives
Ayy
[spoiler]lmao[/spoiler]
>>53684481
Should've probably negotiated down to $275 but the components are pretty solid.
I just upgraded my X220 with an mSATA SSD and 7200rpm SATAIII HDD.
Too fast.
>>53684457
>removal of trackpoint buttons
>removal of dedicated volume buttons (making the keyboard layout even worse)
>low voltage processor
>single socket ram
>harder maintenance.
One good thing is option for a FHD IPS screen on the X240 though.
Anyone gotten their hands on an X260 yet? Thoughts?
Is it true that the batteries are internal?
>>53684971
spec sheet says 3 + 6 cell
so I'm assuming it's like the *40 and *50 series, internal 3-cell and swappable 6-cell
>>53684890
All this desu.
>>53685005
That's what I'm thinking, but I've read from a couple different places that both batteries are internal and non-swappable.
It would be nice if Lenovo actually described their fucking products on their website.
>>53684187
>>53684628
please respond
>>53685138
Fuck off. You are not entitled to an answer.
>>53685153
please cease your bullying right this instant or i'll report you to the proper authorities
>>53685153
>Thread for discussing thinkpads, thinkpad things and thinkpad problems
>Actual problem
>Fuck off
>>53685138
The the keyboard off again and check for any damage to the connectors and ribbon
>>53685215
*take
>>53685215
I was simply pointing out that begging for an answer is not the way to do things. Being an entitled cunt is not okay
>>53685215
thank you for the response. as far as i can tell, there doesn't seem to be any damage to the ribbon/connectors
>>53685313
i think you're getting the wrong impression, bub. i wasn't "begging" or assuming i was "entitled to an answer", i was simply making one more post to bring attention to my issue since the thread had already moved on a bit, that's it. i wasn't intending to post 50 identical replies that said "please respond"
>>53684775
Shit screen res though
>>53685418
Can't get more on the X230
>tfw 16:10 is dead
fucking loving this monitor, why the hell did 16:9 become the thing? Can normies not handle the black bars?
>>53685453
Fucking sucks... It's a goddamn shame they didn't at least offer 900p on that size
>>53683707
cuck
>>53685487
>trusty X200 tablet doesn't turn on when not plugged in, but it makes a buzzing sound
>cleaned the contacts with no results
>opened up the case and tried to see what the problem was
>literally nothing unusual
>must have been something with the motherboard
>replaced mobo
>fixed the problem but I noticed my battery won't charge
>decide to get a replacement jack (pic related)
>one month later it arrives in the mail
>open my baby up one more time
>replace part
>works like a charm again
Feels good man. My baby's back.
>>53685839
>having to spend $1k for a decent aspect ratio screen that can only be used by the worst laptop of all time.
Well this is an interesting accessory
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252330208109?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>53685926
>the worst laptop of all time
>>53685996
The fuck is with the F keys?
>>53683723
Also, *30 are the last generation with expresscard, thinklight, latches, hotswappable ultrabay and an dedicated HDD bay cover.
Was there ever a screen for the x220t that didn't have ghosting? Whether it be an original SKU, or a replacement model it even a compatable display by some other company.
It's not that big of a deal, but it'd be nice to get rid of it.
Oh man this Trackpoint thing is nice. I had to learn to homerow to appreciate it. I type like a retard, but 100 WPM so never had to change my style. But now that I did, I get the allure of the clit mouse. Nice!
>>53686508
it gets even better with the right nib. you can get a sample pack on ebay for like $2
>>53686592
Yeah I noticed if my fingers are not bone dry I have to apply a lot of force with the soft dome thing. You prefer soft rim or classic?
>>53686592
soft rim, i just got my sample pack today, there is a noticeable difference. you dont have to use as much pressure to move it, it just holds your finger nicely.
>>53686630
Soft rim is love. I got a ten pack and put them in all my Thinkpads. It's so much more precise and pleasant to use than soft dome.
>>53685996
is that the latest one
>>53684481
Good <3
>>53685996
That thing is fun to use... such a laugh everytime I mistyped on that thing
>>53685926
I wouldn't call it the worst laptop ever made...
its not a Dell Inspiron or HP DV6.
Is a new Thinkpad T440p with the following specs worth $650?
- Intel Core Haswell i7 4600m 2.9GHz Speeds up to 3.6GHz
- 14 LED Screen 1600 x 900 LED
- Intel 240GB SSD
- 8GB Ram DDR3
- Intel 4600 and Geforce 730GT Graphics Card
-9 Cell Extended Battery
>>53686664
>>53686719
Ordered 2 packs of all caps. Better be worth it because I paid $30 shipped.
>>53687279
>4600m
Nope
Maybe if it were a 4700 and over. But 4600m is a dual core cpu.
I'd pay maybe, 500 for that laptop.
>>53686592
rough clit master race
got this for $130... did I get ripped off?
>>53687513
post specs
and for gods sake, put your plush away when not on /mlp/ anon
>>53687535
what.. I cuddle with it :3
>>53687321
>$30 for 3 small pieces of rubber.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141923547049?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>53687513
>>53687559
Daily reminder that /g/ has to share a domain with the rest of this godforsaken website.
>>53687513
Fucking disgusting
>>53687279
>tfw cant sell my T440p with an i7 4700mq because no one wants an iGPU model and pay extra
I got an IPS screen on it but its a cheapie compared to the panel they used at default
>>53687583
No I paid to have it next week and not "estimated 1 month".
>>53687707
where do you live? i bought those last saturday and got them today.
>>53687279
buy this instead anon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6440-Quad-Core-i7-4700MQ-2-5-3-5Ghz-AMD-8690M-8GB-RAM-1-TB-9-Cell-/172131612050?hash=item2813d7f592:g:FjgAAOSwyjBW5FLZ
>>53687726
Yurop - it's estimated april 20th. Aint got no time for that but I do have $30. Looking forward to trying the soft dome.
I have a T440s. It's great
Is it worth paying twice the price of a t420 for a t440? I'm not really confident of buying a sandy bridge in 2016.
>>53688027
Non-p T440 has ULV Haswells that are at best on par with Sandy Bridge, sometimes worse. Sandy Bridge is fucking stronk, and it's not going anywhere, either. Intel straight-up said they weren't going to bother trying to improve performance anymore. It's all iGPU and power efficiency from here on out.
>>53688027
depends on what your going to be doing with it, honestly only you can answer.
there are still millions on core 2 duo that get by great.
>>53688088
>Intel straight-up said they weren't going to bother trying to improve performance anymore
Got sauce?
the i5 4310m in my e6440 is idling around 45 and gets as high as 70 during load. Is that pretty normal or do I need to re-paste?
>>53688199
Seems normal to me.
>>53688233
Alright. Just trying to keep an eye on it. Just picked it up and I wanna pace it out as much as I can during the return period. I ran prime95 for a bit but when it hit 85c I was like "k thats done" only took about 30 seconds for it to get up that high. Kept waiting for it to stabilize, but it never did.
Haven't been on a laptop in a long time, so I'm still getting used to it again. My main tower idles at like 25c and never gets over 50c.
Heard Haswell mobile line were very temperature sensitive, so I wanna make sure it stays cool.
Is there a way to upgrade an x220 that came without a WWAN module with an aftermarket one without having to flash the bios?
>>53688127
Fug, I can't find the article now. It's not hard to see that they've been stonewalled since Sandy Bridge though. Ivy Bridge and Haswell were minor upgrades, Broadwell did literally nothing for performance, and Skylake is merely on par with Haswell, sometimes actually benching worse. Either they know they don't have to improve performance because AMD is too far behind to be real competition, or they actually can't squeeze anything more out of silicon, or both. The current software trend towards even lower voltage phone/tablet processors that barely even match Core 2 for performance means Sandy Bridge will still be good for years to come.
>>53688614
>>>53688127
>Sandy Bridge will still be good for years to come.
I hope you're right anon.I agree with you, I have been saying that for awhile I just thought it would be funny if Intel actually admitted it themselves. Skylake is such a disaster and every skylake mobile cpu is soldered, it's fucking awful.
>>53688722
As a Penryn user, I can say Sandy Bridge is a straight up beast, very usable considering I can do all my mobile video editing with it even today.
>>53687430
ma nigga. Only complaint is that it wear down too quickly
>>53687513
> Doesnt post specs
> still decides to put pony in the background
Please consider suicide
>>53685996
That looks like complete shit. It is everything that is wrong with modern laptops and is the instant answer to the "Did Lenovo really kill the Thinkpad" question.
> sunken keyboard
> chiclet keys with rounded edges
> Function keys look like those shitty heat activated buttons used on modern monitors that don't work and are guaranteed to fail
> trackpad is enormous and has no physical buttons
> Screen has enormous lower bezel
> Enormous lower bezel is glossy
> keyboard layout is a fucking disaster, no FN key on bottom row
> Home/End where Capslock would be
> Capslock is nonexistent
The X1 Carbon is a fucking dumpster fire
How can I speed up scrolling with the TrackPoint? I can't stand how slowly it goes when I'm scrolling down and up with the TrackPoint and the middle button.
Is there any easy way to make it more sensitive?
I've already tried all the built-in options in Windows and in the TrackPoint/TrackPad options.
>>53689560
just noticed the caps lock thing... What the fuck were the designers on when the made this thing a reality?
>>53689666
>Devilish trips
They think they'll fare better in the market by making prosumer laptops, but apple dominates that.
>>53689560
>chiclet keys with rounded edges
They're better to type on, you should try them some time. Apart from that, everything else is terrible.
>>53689716
They could easily do that without butchering the Thinkpad line, just made the X1 series separate from the thinkpad line completely and leave the bullshit out of the thinkpads like chiclet keys.
>>53689754
Most people hate them.
Chiclet keys only caught on because they make it easier to build thinner laptops compared to conventional keys and since we have long past hit the point of diminishing returns on hardware laptops have to have some new feature to catch the attention of normies so they'll buy whatever Apple/Acer/Dell/HP/Lenovo are shitting out instead of a $99 tablet instead.
Also they're popular because the Macbook had them so they became trendy.
Should I replace my TN screen of my x220?
>>53690021
The chiclet keyboard on my ThinkPad is easily the best thing I've ever typed on. It even beats the Mac's keyboard because the chiclet keys on a Mac don't hug your fingertips for a start, then there's the travel and the tactile feel and the lack of flex. It blows everything out the water.
I think all that's happening is that everyone is rightfully pissed at Lenovo for ruining the ThinkPad with new shit, the keyboard though happens to be the only new thing which is an improvement, it just unfortunately gets lumped together with the other hate.
I'm using an E130, I know its an Edge series but its literally an old x121e with better internals. I think this is the best ThinkPad they made, for me anyway. I find it hard to fault other than the screen.
3rd gen i3, USB 3.0 upgraded to 8GB RAM and I've got an mSATA SSD on the way for it so it can keep the stock 500GB HDD. For a laptop from like 2012 its remarkably powerful.
>>53690021
>most people hate them
If that were the case lenovo would of reverted back like they did with the clickpad
>>53690148
Sounds better than the X130e, it doesn't have the rubber bumpers, although I do like them, the shell of the X130e grew incredibly compared to the previous models
>>53686860
no, the latest model reverted to physical F keys and separate trackpoint buttons (though the pad is still a clickpad). the 2014 model was the one with the soft F keys
i had a 2014 model through my job, but the f keys fucked up real bad and stopped detecting touches, so i got upgraded to the 2015 model
>>53687513
An X220 is pretty reasonable for 130, no matter what the specs are
I'd been looking at an X230 to install coreboot on and i'd be willing to pay $200 for them
the x2xx series are the best thinkpad series imo
who comfy here
>>53685960
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/252330208109?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
This one uses DP.
>>53687513
Cum on that plush for us, Anon.
Daily reminder that the NSA circumvents laptops through UPS and installs direct spying hardware.
Should I risk $400 on getting one of those chink x220s with FHD?
>>53687513
free replies
I gues /sqt/ wants me to post this question here.
I just got Thinkpad T400. I bought an HDD for it. When I run the HDD diagnostics utility in the BIOS, I get "Error Code: 0000 Read Verification Failed". I decided to install Windows 7 and it installed and seems to work fine, but I still get the error. I ran chkdsk from the CD after installing and it doesn't find any problems.
So, what's going on here? Should I return the HDD or what?
>>53691306
Weird, even though it works, the drive could be on it's way out the door, the original drive in my optiplex works, but it's getting slower and has errors, can't get too mad, it's from 2007.
>>53691338
Ah...So maybe returning it is my best bet? Is there maybe a BIOS option that might affect the test?
>>53691461
Returning it is only good if you intend to run a mechanical drive and don't feel like an SSD, but if the laptop is in good condition and it would otherwise work for you, buy a 128GB SSD and enjoy the speed, Core 2 duo is really something with an SSD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyQ9KbU4d0w
>>53691306
A 120GB SSD is $40, a 240GB SSD is $55
Unless you need a lot of space there is no reason to be using a mechanical hard drive. I threw a cheap PNY 120GB SSD in my T400 and it boots in seconds now, and runs much smoother.
Also, as a side note, Windows 7 is the newest OS you can use and still use switchable graphics to go from the integrated GPU to the 3470 because Lenovo didn't feel like writing drivers for Windows 8/Windows 10 so with any OS past 7 you'll have to manually switch your GPU in the BIOS.
>>53691296
Plush is pretty cute, but not as cute as that 14 incher there.
>>53691545
can we namefag itt without aspies going berserk?
>>53691296
>>53687513
Degenerate scum, kill yourselves.
>>53691624
No one's gotten mad at me for it, I guess it's a demeanor thing.
>>53683707
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
>>53691647
You do seem pretty chill.
>>53691624
>>53691647
Just dont be a faggot c:
>>53683707
>how do I use the fingerprint reader in linux ?
99% of the time the answer to "How do I use X in Linux?" is "you don't"
>>53691677
I new to the thread so ill probably just keep lurking, but I did just get my e6440 in the other day, so I felt obliged to come chill with you fine people. Seems like one of the better threads on /g/, so ill try not to shit the place up to bad.
>>53691718
It is quite a nice and informative thread. Love my t420 and loved my w520. Have a lenovo workstation now though.
>>53691762
I just went in the opposite direction. My main tower is now a server and my e6440 is my main Machine. Any work too heavy for it can be streamed from it to the e6440, and now I have more freedom to go from place to place. I work in computer repair and do in home stuff, so it's nice.
>>53690673
> If that were the case lenovo would of reverted back like they did with the clickpad
> would of
Fucking aids
How well do ThinkPad's age? Was offered a Lenovo w520 w/ 12GB of RAM, 250gb SSD. it's 3 years old. Would 350 be a fair price for this?
>>53692199
>3 year old desktop replacement with 12GB DDR3
It's just a baby, It's got a lot left in it.
I'm eyeing a used X220 tablet, is there anything I should be aware of, any reason not to get it over the regular X220? Do they use the same batteries?
>>53683707
Search for thinkfinger. There's a guide online.
>>53688127
>Got sauce?
Moores law is over.
Too lazy to google for the economist tech quarterly where I got the graphics from.
>>53692515
Moore's law is over until there's another shift in technology. Moore's law wasn't so much a law as a generalisation of a logarithmic technological incrementation to an exponential one.
>>53692329
No they don't use the same battery.
Bigger, heavier.
Unless you're an artist or something, you probably won't use the touch screen much.
Screen wobbles.
Apparently has some problem where the keyboard can scratch the screen?
Having said all that, I did just buy one, and it's on its way here to SYD. Refurbished for $175USD + shipping
>>53692545
>Moore's law wasn't so much a law as a generalisation
Indeed. And now that generalization does not work anymore, it seems, until some new tech comes along (which might happen).
Just realized I had the link in history still:
http://www.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2016-03-12/after-moores-law
Really good read! Might have to go through google cache, if you are on a shared/changing ip.
Waiting for an X1C to arrive.
What OSs should I put on it?
Comes with an W8 licence, upgraded to 7. I would like to keep a small windows partition, because of >muh games and >muh professional software, but I mainly wanna work in linux.
But from what I have read, UEFI seems to make duelbooting a pain in the ass.
Also, all big linux distros are ass too. It's either gnome, which is shit, or KDE, which with 5, now after 4 became stable and usable is shit again, or some random 1337-WM, wich is a lot of work to get running.
And RHEL7 clones seem really nice, because they got a working version of KDE4 and support till the end of time, but rpm-fusion is dead, so I either have to add random hobbiest repos, that'll do whatever they want and have a huge security and stability issue, or I install every fucking thing from source, at which point I might as well install gentoo.
Fuck.
>>53685864
>le /g/oyim cant test all the wires and then solder faulty ones to a jack
Guys, I dont get that "chicklet keyboard" meme.
What is it all about? Well, old keyboards and the new ones have the same rubber-dome base with scissor-spring. Nothing special, all laptops have these for 20 years already. Keycap shape? Maybe, some say, gaybook keyboard is pleasant to type too, thats a matter of habit.
So, whats the point besides 6 rows, touch panels and non-tactile powerbutton?
Just bought a XPS 13, after getting all my programs just how I like them and deleting dell bloatware it seems the consensus (by which I mean about 2 sources) is that a clean install is better to clear up ram usage.
I don't really wanna go to the hassle of reinstalling all those programs again; is it worth it? I've done the USB windows install thing on a desktop before (including the issue of it not booting from my USB for whatever reason, resorting to buying discs, those discs failing then buying different discs for it to work, those were hellish times) but i'm too lazy to go through with that again unless it's really worth.
>>53693464
The main complaint about the 'chiclet keyboard' is due to the switch from the excellent 7 row layout to the objectively worse 6 tow layout.
Keycap design and keyboard feel are better in the new keyboard as well.
>>53693464
While I do prefer the retro key shape, the new one doesn't bother me. For me the dealbreaker is the 6 rows. Not having the ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdn in the classic arrangement is the difference between using a laptop, and using a portable computer.
>>53693560
Install Gentoo
>>53683707
Worked out of the box with my x220 in fedora
>>53690731
housefire fujitsu
>>53691515
Are you retarded anon?
Lenovo doesn't make drivers. Intel does.
T400 works flawlessly with Windows 8/8.1/10. Stop spreading FUD
>>53694873
To be fair, back in 2008-2009 graphics switching was still in its infancy and most of the time it required manufacturer specific drivers (think Sony Vaio).
https://www.gumtree.com/p/laptops/x220-laptop-tablet-/1157535660
Opinions?
What are your preferred screensize /g/ents?
>>53696207
4:3 15"
Switching the TN screen to a LED one worth it in T420?
>>53696207
4:3 12"
16:10 13"
But unfortunately, those dont exist anymore in new machines. I could get a rMBP or a surface for glorious 3:2, but well, paying a shittown of money for a machine glued so shut that I cant even clean the fan is not really what I'm into, so I guess 14" Txxxs or X1C is the most reasonable option.
which battery should I get for T420 and where?
What are the advantages of T420 over the Elitebook 8460p?
how do you disable the touchpad on the t420 in lubuntu?
It is only an annoyance, i only use the trackpoint all the time anyways
>>53697886
in bios or the mouse settings
>>53697886
Unplug from mobo.
>>53684187
Try cleaning the connector with a can of compressed air.
>>53691296
>browsing our ancient italian knitting enthousiasts forum in incognito mode
>>53698196
>mfw its under "Social" on my startpage and kept as a pinned tab
just bought an x220
i5 2540, 6gb, 240gb (ssd), 9 cell.
linux mint 17.3 cinnamon
What should I buy if I want:
At least 500 gb SSD
At least 8 gb RAM
At least 2 GHz
Under $800
>>53685960
Would be funny if they started making those with IPS panels better than the built in on the gookpad
>>53699221
You should buy a 500gb ssd, 8gb of ram and then pick what ever the cheapest laptop that has a 2ghz cpu and upgrade it as needed.
There's a 500 gb 850 evo msata ssd on ebay for 139 right now, if you get a laptop that can boot from msata you can also install a full 2.5" hdd for extended storage.
But the specs you chose? Very easy to find/get. You need to do more research.
>>53699256
13" 900p ips with 10 point touch. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/PD028550?LinkTrack=Solr
>>53699313
does it come with ductape to secure it over my shitty built in TN?
>>53692199
That things gotta a lot of life left in it
>>53699313
the wired variants are really quite nice
Would get if I spent a lot of time in temporary workspaces
>>53687513
Can i fuck your plush when you're done with it?
I got a X220 tablet recently and the mouse cursor is randomly jumping around on the screen as if someone was randomly touching the screen.
Google said it had something to do with the motherboard, but the device is obviously out of warranty and I wouldn't want to spend extra money on it.
If I disable the touch screen in the device manager, the problem goes away (but I can't use finger touch anymore).
Any anon have this problem or have any ideas on how to fix this?
Just bought a T420 on ebay.
>8gb RAM
>i5 2.4ghz
>320gb HDD
>with dock no key
It also is cracked in the corner but that shouldn't matter, right?
>>53699769
As long as it works fine, the crack doesn't matter, Thinkpads look better than Latitudes anyway when they get beat up, that's the cool thing about em.
>>53693560
I wouldn't (and didn't) bother.
Just got an email from amazon about this Woot site they bought likely and I check the computer section to see it is literally a bunch of business laptops or a USB 3.0 deal. What does /tpg/ think of getting your ganoopad there?
I want to pick up an x60t or x61t with SXGA+ screen, what kind of price would I be looking at?
My question is: Is there any conceivable way of upgrading the screen in my X220 to a full HD or beyond? Or is there a way of upgrading the processor? I would rather keep this laptop for its form factor so assume I have a budget on a par with buying a whole new laptop in order to make these upgrades.
>>53700238
Try googling. I heard about some guy jury rigging a 1080p screen into his X220 by making the computer think it was an external monitor, but this brings along a whole new set of problems.
>>53691660
I disagree with your sentiments.
Yes, technically speaking Linux refers only to the operating system's kernel. Although the GNU project predates the Linux kernel, and the project's contributors do deserve recognition, placing them in the name is unfair to the many, many others who made significant contributions. Beside, "Linux/GNU" would be more technically accurate since the kernel boots first. In popular usage, “Linux” refers to the kernel and all the other free and open
source software found in the typical Linux distribution; that is, the entire Linux ecosystem, not just the GNU components. The operating system marketplace seems to prefer one-word names such as DOS, Windows, Solaris, Irix, AIX. Therefore just 'Linux' makes it much more accessible and sensical. Thanks
>>53700290
I have tried googling extensively, however as you allude it seems there is no simple answer. I would love to go back to the time when I could happily spend all day trying to bodge something together but these days would be far happier to pay somebody who knows what they're doing £1000 to do it for me.
Damn, does battery really wear out this fast? I got this laptop in august. The battery had like 50 cycles now it has 223.
>>53700412
If you don't take care of it yes. AFIAK not leaving it over 80% for long periods and not draining it to dead can help it last longer.
>>53700504
What I've been doing is once it reaches 100%, plug off and keep using until 10%, recharge back to 100% and so on...
>>53700238
It's kind of hard to upgrade the X220 screen because the LVDS connecter can't into FullHD.
There are some mods that scavange some lines from the docking DP connector though.
You can buy kits and whole modded thinkpads from shady chinese sellers on Taobao and I think some Japanese place that only ships to Japan or something.
What's the best Thinkpad option if I wanted to maximize battery life with good-enough specs and 14-inch screen?
I already own a T430 and overall like thinkpad builds. Despite using a 9-cell battery, I'm not enjoying the 3.5 hour battery life with normal usage. I want to run Excel or a VM for a full working day regardless of price. T460 may do it but I've got no idea if it's any actual improvement over the T430.
>>53700366
try googling "x220 1080p screen"
fell for the meme
the internals for the stuff that keeps the screen in place on my new-old 6460b broke after trying to replace it
>>53699647
Seems like something is bugging t
he digitizer of the screen. Try cleaning it off to see if it helps at all.
>>53699769
What price? I have the same spec one as you, but mine was in mint condition. Got it for 160.
has /tpg/ cleaned their dirty thinkpads lately? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDmCmmvIA8A
>>53701490
>Reliable ass win7 gets a BSOD before the laptop even goes.
>>53701490
Found this video of my old T420 from a year ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8LAj67hAPE
>>53701577
Cool design how it shoots out the back, on mine I have to remove the heatsink and fan to clean it fully, not much comes out the bottom.
>>53698302
>linux mint
fuck that shit senpai and install a proper distro. Also don't forget to install tlp.
>>53700156
Cheaper on ebay
>http://www.dankpads.com/2016/02/t420-general-info.html
Says 3 usb ports, forgets about the ESATA port, which can also be used as a USB port.
Says the t420 has a 54mm Expresscard slot (it has the 34mm).
Expresscards with the NEC UPD720202 apparently work well with linux (well enough for these guys to be selling them for $40 a pop https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/usb-30-expresscard-34mm ) They go for ~$7 on ebay.
>>53685996
my gf works for PWC and they get these as standard.
I will never understand what they were thinking with those fkeys.
>>53701948
>what they were thinking
they weren't
T420 MSATA: can I run OS off an MSATA drive and then run two slave HDDs?
>>53701973
>they weren't
heh
I was over at her place and couldn't type on the SOB.
>tfw you have to ask your gf how to click
>>53702001
surewhynot
>>53700366
You can get them for like ~$400 shipped off of taobao
Why do I like the HP design a lot more than these bulky thinkpads?
>>53702376
Probably because HP and Dell like making premium looking and feeling laptops, while Lenovo makes rugged laptops that look like shit, but you can beat it around and it wont be much uglier.
>>53702376
because you're gay
Why are there no reviews of the T460 / T460s?
Are modern T-series dead?
Everybody only wants X-series and Yoga now?
>>53702436
most guides are targeted at better value preowned thinkpads
these tend to be older models
>>53702428
This. I got XPS 13 and Thinkpad x230t.
XPS feels like fragile luxury item while x230t is rough work device that can take a lot of beating.
Still i love them both.
>>53702429
that disgusting clamshell
>>53702376
The bulkiness is what makes them sexy in the first place. I think you're in the wrong place
>>53702532
But the newest models are not bulky at all.
Okay so I got my keyboards FRU (45N2141) How do I check which manufacturer it is from?
>>53703391
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/thinkpad-keyboard-identification.634208/
>>53702436
Too new for most of the people here to have them. Most Thinkpads here are secondhand / refurbs which is why they are such a good value.
>>53702613
The newest models arent real Thinkpads
>>53703427
I found that page earlier and I can't seem to find where does it say which FRU is what manufacturer.
I do Ctrl+F "45N2141" and nothing comes up.
>>53703485
just pull off a key, get a fingernail under the top left or right corner and pull
>>53703507
But can't we check by the FRU? I ask because this guy here
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/W520-Keyboards-FRUs-vs-manufacturers/td-p/500409
Says that the 45N2141 is Chicony however my FRU is the same and my pads are white which means they're ALPS...
Is there any way to get USB 3.0 on my T420?
>>53703952
expresscard
>>53703577
Nevermind, I was just confused because the table wasnt formatted properly but now I see both through FRU and color that I indeed have a Chicony X220 keyboard.
What are the best though? I read somewhere that NMB is the best
Just looked at some replacement parts for my X220t and it's getting way too expensive to replace parts. €5 for some rubber feet is ridiculous.
>>53704392
I paid 30 for direct OEM rubber feet on my Asus G75 a few years ago, 7 for a whole set really isnt that bad.
>>53694873
Did you even read the post you're quoting?
Lenovo makes the drivers for GPU switching bhecause they're built into Lenovo's Power Management software, which they have not updated for switchable graphics in any OS past Windows 7.
Looks like you are in fact the retard. I hope your parents get some sort of tax credit for letting someone with your bare minimum to survive level of IQ live in their basement.
>cries about new 6-row shitty thinkpad keyboard
>buys a meme "hacker's" 5-row keyboard without arrow keys for $300
mein goyim
Thinkpad x130e
Dual booting Windows 10 and Xubuntu
I'm still unsure how I'm liking Windows 10. I mean this is a dual core 1.3Ghz AMD E-300
>>53696207
4:3 12.1"
The X60s was the finest laptop I have ever owned.
If I could find a machine that had decent internals and glorious 4:3 I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I currently have a 14" 16:10 T400, and other than 1280x800 it's wonderful.
>>53706275
With a desktop you can change everything around whenever you want. you cant really do that with a laptop.
The amount of bloat a Thinkpad comes with these days is ridiculous.
The Lenovo Thinkpad Reading Optimizer is a very powerful and highly valued tool for people who read on laptops.
Why?
Because if youre a fucking idiot, all you have to do is install this. Then, whenever your computer is in landscape or portrait mode and you're too fucking stupid to rotate your screen, you can install this bloated tool to do it automatically. Don't use it 90% of the time? Don't worry, it'll still use up CPU even when you're not using it.
Fuck Lenovo for this. It doesn't matter if you can uninstall a piece of crap, it still matters that the crap was in this laptop in the first place. I seriously can't have the ultimate support of Lenovo because of this. At this point the Thinkpad exists as a culture and name and design only, and the soul is gone.
>>53706503
Forgot pic.
hey guys, i'm the dude from here:
>>53684187
just wanted to share what i did to get it working just in case anyone has a similar problem.
i disconnected the cmos battery and let everything discharge overnight, plugged it back in this morning, and after sputtering a few times like an old jalopy, i finally got it to boot. it was really fucky (keyboard and mouse input was all over the place) for a while and wouldn't consistently boot, but strangely enough, throughout the day, it's gotten a lot more stable, i've managed to work out most of the input issues, and it seems mostly fine
ultimately, i'll probably return it for a replacement anyway since i'm concerned there's some underlying hardware fuckery (which i fucking HATE to do because i've fallen in love with it the short time i've had it, seriously, holy fuck i understand now why you guys adore these things so much, trackpoint especially is not a meme), but thanks to everyone that tried to help out
>>53706503
> Not doing a fresh install on any hardware you get
You deserve it
>>53706622
After that's said and done, should I just sit back and forget that Lenovo is still shoving bloatware in their laptops and creating poor products? I'm not going to like the company just because I can wipe my laptop's unclean asshole after I buy it.
This is the mentality a lot of people here seem to have, and it seems to perpetuate this phenomenon.. if you're going to justify bloatware by saying you can remove it, then they are free to do it. Especially after you continue to praise the company.
What would be a good os for a x41t, my older brother gave it to me.
>>53706668
I guess it depends on how important it is that a Chinese tech company shares the same ideals that you have.
No one here praises Lenovo, we simply praise (some) of the things that are manufactured by Lenovo.
You don't have to define yourself by the brands you buy.
>>53702001
uses more battery
>>53706556
Nice to hear that anon.
Welcome.
>>53706668
Bloatware is the least of Lenovo's problems. They used to have legit spyware preloaded onto your computer (Superfish). After Superfish was removed and they were like "woops our bad", they waited a couple years and bundled another piece of shit spyware with their newer systems, although I forget what that one is called.
But aside from that, I find that Thinkpads are the lesser evil - since pretty much every manufacturer has similar problems or are overpriced.
Been considering the P40. Cant really find much in the way of opinions on it though. I need a dgpu, the ability to covert to a tablet, and stylus support. All im finding that match those criteria are the p40 and godanm surface book.
>>53707470
Every manufacturer doesn' have to participate in bloatware. So far people are excusing it with "everyone else is doing it".
bought a $1 mousepad with pic related on it. Will report back in a month or so when it gets here.
>>53708673
No, people are excusing it with "It's a dumb thing to rage about when the first thing you do when you get a new laptop since time immemorial has been to do a clean install".
>>53706286
Currently using an X61, have an X220T coming in the mail.
4:3 will be dearly missed.
>backlit keyboard delivered today
>was super late because of the snow
>left in apt office during their extremely brief Saturday hours, now closed
>I was at microcenter buying an ssd for my mom
FFFF
I just wanna shit post in the dark ;_;
>>53709896
>not having a thinklight
i'm actually considering ghetto rigging a usb led light on my monitor as a mega-thinklight thingy
>>53709960
I just kinda dislike that whole idea in general. Illuminated keys just seems so much better. So much cleaner.
>>53709960
>>53710005
>can't touch type flawlessly
You don't belong on /g/.
>>53710005
true, but i like how it lights up the area around the laptop so you can read stuff
>>53710025
>Implying he isn't using anything more than home row in the dark.
>>53710034
Did you see the words "touchtype flawlessly"? That includes the entire keyboard. Learn to type.
>>53686719
>>53686664
I don't get why soft rim was least voted in the classic Thinkpad poll. Concave is objectively best for holding the finger, and no rough texture to destroy your fingertips. It just works.
I was thinking of getting this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-UltraNav-PS2-Spanish-Travel-Keyboard-NEW-42C0046-/331649977361?hash=item4d37e10c11:g:DJkAAOSwuTxV7619
but it's a spanish keyboard. That's not going to cause any trouble for me is it? A shame the Lshift is smaller for the extra key.
>>53710750
Shouldn't be a problem for that little plug n play thing.
>>53710750
Looks like a T40's keyboard, might be changeable if you can find one of those anymore...
>Page 10
Bumping with this big ass heatsink.
>>53710005
Illuminated keys are a meme. 1 LED on top does the job better than 1 LED per key.
Does anyone know which model Thinkpad this is?
>>53713479
Someone needs to do an CSI zoomjob on the label. I think it says R51, but that doesnt make sense. also that clipped corner should be noticiable by someone.
also, the grey keys are i think pre-60 series.
>>53713479
>>53713806
>very thin hinges
>label ends in a 1
It's an R31
>>53713479
I'm actually thinking of getting one, anyone have anything good/bad to say about them?
>>53712929
More often than not, single colour laptop keyboard backlights are just 1 LED with some fibre. Cheaper that way
And to think there was also a time when a single white LED was so expensive that they used orange ones to cut costs on some models (although admittedly I'd want an orange Thinklight just for shits and giggles)
I know there's a few Dell Precision M4800 owners in /tpg/, if any of you guys has as FirePro M5100 someone released a modded vBIOS that allows you to OC the GPU.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/amd-firepro-m5100-overclocking-vbios-mod-dell-precision-m4800.789891/
Can ThinkPad X220 decode HDCD?
Lateralus album by Tool comes with HDCD. I'm pretty sure it showed a little HDCD icon on my mom's crappy laptop when I used it to rip the CD but it doesn't show on my X220
>>53714194
Forget. I'm retarded. I'm pretty sure I saw the HDCD icon when playing the CD itself and not the ripped 320kbps mp3 file
I got a new genuine 9 cell and I want it to last for a while.
What threshold settings should I use? I'm using TLP on Arch to configure stuff.
40 start and 80 stop, maybe?
Hey
How do I check if a LCD panel is compativle with a thinkpad G40?
how much better is an i7 in an X230 or X220 compared to an i5?
