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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
first for dell xps 13 9350
anyone use a silicone keyboard cover to keep the keyboard clean? does it ruin the typing and trackpoint experience?
>>53647514
I would like to know as well
also posted in old, thread, didn't see the new one in the catalog
So my battery is discharging even though I have my power cable plugged in
I'm running debian 8.2, acpi -a says adapter 0 is online, but upower -i $Battery says it's discharging, I've only had the laptop for like half a year, could the battery be fucked already?
battery info according to upower is vendor: LGC, model 45N1161
its worth to buy a t400 c2d for 100$?
>>53647514
How enjoyable would you expect sex to be with a 1/8" thick condom on?
>>53647522
Has this battery ever been able to charge or is it a new battery? What model thinkpad?
>>53647522
nevermind that, problem seems to have gone, battery is charging now
>tfw more than dead battery
anyone have experience with chink batteries?
i want a cheap one
>>53647532
No way. Not unless it comes with stuff like a dock, 9 cell, is maxed out, and/or is in great condition.
>>53647581
see
>>53647583
and it's the one that came with the thinkpad when I bought it, model is a L540
>>53647612
ty senpai
If I buy a laptop that "only boots to bios" is there a way to save it, I know it cannot boot because otherwise they would have priced it higher and tested it with a drive.
>cfl tubes
really panasonic
also the cool green power switch light is busted on my T8 Mk.1.5, even though the switch works fine.
I got my first thinkpad, a second hand T400 lenovo.
I have a question regarding how it acts when it shuts down,
I open a terminal and run sudo shutdown now, but after the os is done shutting down the computer isn't compleatly off.
Am I doing something wrong or is this normal behavior? How should I ne shutting my laptop down?
Anyone using TLP enhancing battery life? I was thinking about trying it on my gentoo x220
http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html
any suggestions on how to connect my phone to my t420's wired connection
>>53647816
What a dumb fucking question
>>53647826
what a dumb fucking answer
>>53647691
i run it on my t510 and my latitude e5450, i get like 9 hours battery with it on the e5450 and like 6 on the t510
>>53647514
Had one on my X301 and it was OK. made it hard to tell where the volume rocker was, but kept the dust out real well.
>>53647816
> posting this in /tpg/
>>53647691
I think it's dumb not having it running if you have a thinkpad. Works fine it's easy to install and you start it and does it's magic.
>>53647907
Thinkpad noob here, it runs on GNU/Linux? What does it exactly do?
The Chinese modded X220s with 2K screens.
If only I could figure out how taobao works...
>>53647687
use sudo poweroff
if your using systemd use sudo systemctl poweroff
the next times you can just run systemctl poweroff without root password
>>53647927
power management for linux. Google it to check how to install it on the distro you are using. You can tweak how much the battery charges and how it behaves when plugged in and it gives you a shitton of useful numbers to check on it too.
>>53647607
mine was $26 off ebay for my x220t "9cell", lasts about 6 hours wifi browsing light work. no regrats
>>53647948
fuck I would like to do that too.
https://shop116423671.world.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.2.OdPKgz
This seems to be the dude doing the mods on x220 and x230 and also selling the parts.
here's my CF-T8 Mk.4 with it's screen opened up.
The screen hinges are screwed to the magnesium lid, into which the rest of the screen hardware snaps in. The screen bezel holds the panel in a shock-absorbing foam mounting.
The hard drive is protected similarly, wrapped in thin plastic covered in foam blocks, with a SATA plug extending out of the case on a ribbon cable into a caddy that takes 5 screws (two on the top, even) to remove.
Anyone with a T430 had a broken hinge and fixed it? My hinge for connecting the frame to the back panel just snapped and there's no videos on how to fix it
>>53647948
>>53648081
fuck, now I want this.
>>53647514
the whole point of the gookpad is to use it without worrying about it
Panasonic supplies a driver to enable eco mode, which only charges the battery to 80%, letting you leave the T8 plugged in all the time as a terminal or carputer. There's also a built-in battery calibrator.
The power switch light and eco/charge lights also pulse softly in sleep mode or while charging, and you can set the charge indicator's pulse type in the BIOS, as well as syncing external lighting to the screen brightness.
I love the circular touchpad more every time I use it. Shit just makes sense.
>>53649007
So you feel all modern machines should have a circular touchpad?
>>53649007
>Panasonic supplies a driver to enable eco mode, which only charges the battery to 80%, letting you leave the T8 plugged in all the time as a terminal or carputer. There's also a built-in battery calibrator.
That's interesting, so keeping the battery at a constant 80% does what exactly on a technical level?
>I love the circular touchpad more every time I use it.
It looks practical. Also really looks like shit imo. Function over form though. New models still ship with the circular touchpad
>>53647816
You need OTG > USB:RJ45 and you'll be good.
>>53649124
Panasonic sure feels that way.
http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/sz5h/
>>53649129
Laptop batteries get warmer when charged past 80%. This kills the battery.
>>53649171
Makes sense. I should stop charging my gookpads over night
>>53649225
Good/modern laptops have BIOS options to set max charge at 80% of battery to prevent this.
>>53649271
doubt that applies to my 2008 era X lines
>>53649336
Yes that's probably correct.
Which is why you should ditch that shit and get one that does.
>its the small things, anon
>>53649336
install thinkvantage power manager on windows or tlp on linux, you can set battery thresholds in either
>>53649225
I always have my on charger. Am I doing something wrong?
>>53649358
I only care about my X200 Tablet since the batteries are expensive and OEM versions are rare
I would buy a new gookpad or other business line but I'm just too comfortable having laptops that I can treat like shit
>>53649399
depends how much a new battery for your model costs
>>53649360
I always thought for some stupid reason tlp was strictly for stats
Thanks for pointing that out
I need a thinkpad asap for under 400$ U.S, which is the best in your opinion and also it would be great if i could get a link on it to buy it!
>>53649442Just a T420. I pretty much neve ruse the battery I just run on AC
>>53649543
if that's the case just take out the battery and charge it every few months
I'm sure T420 batteries are cheap enough not to care too much though.
I only take extra steps to care for my batteries when they are expensive
>>53649520
>spoon feed me: the post
Please, fuck off and do research.
>>53649580
That's what I do with my other latitude, I leave the battery in, and plug it in every month or two, still holds a charge.
>>53649619
Yeah, I think that's the best option if you're on AC majority of the time or don't use the machine for a long time
whats a good power manager on linux? right now i have the xfce power manager, but it isnt very good, any recommendations?
>>53649847
tlp
Hey, can someone tell me what the phone jack is for on my x201? What's a use case...?
>>53650308
NEET detected
>>53647444
Fellow T420 owners, what are your settings for sysctl.conf by chance? I upgraded to 8gb of 1600Mhz RAM with an unlocked BIOS and I've been trying to maximize RAM usage to save power and gain speed. I've set my dirty_writeback_centisecs to 3000 and my dirty_ratio to 40, and I'm using profile-sync-daemon to move my browser profile and cache to RAM with overlayfs. Are there any other power tweaks besides the GRUB options listed on the wiki to save power and reduce HDD accesses?
>>53650452
To add, I'm already using TLP.
I have w500and the back light has stopped working, what steps would you suggest to fix that?
>>53650308
a phone line....? what else would it be for
Anybody know of a website with a running list of laptops that definitely have msata ssd compatibility.
I found one, but it's not complete.
>>53650331
I- I do have a job ;-;
>>53650814
What the fuck's the reason for a phone line? Just use a telephone that's already attached to one lol.
>>53650948
Some phones will hook up to workstations for Very large enterprises UC systems
>>53650948
>what is dial-up
>what are console ports that use RJ-11
shitpost somewhere else
Did I do decent?
Will add ram and my own SSD. It's mostly just for youtube etc for daughter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291712088928
>>53647444
any idea why my x201 doesn't like this kingston stick of ram?
it's the same speed as my other 4 gig stick.
also for some reason only the 4 gig and the 2 gig stick that are in it work, nothing else will boot fully without blue screening.
>>53651006
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/291712088928
Sweet just noticed it's from form the same state I am in too
>>53650977
Hmmm, I suppose that makes some sense.
>>53650995
>Irrelevant shit
I'm not shitposting, I was genuinely curious.
>>53651052
>irrelevant shit
You asked a genuinely stupid question about a piece of equipment that everyone and their grandma should know what purpose it's for, and I gave you a genuine answer. Are you 15?
>>53651047
forgot the image
>>53651047
sounds like the stick might be DOA. Have you tried using it by itself?
>>53651073
Close!
>>53651098
yes
and this is a brand new stick of ram (just rmaed it) and it works fine in all my other computers
>>53651073
Not everyone here is an old piece of shit, die dial up faggot. No one even spells that anymore
>>53651125
I am 22 years old. How the fuck do you not know what an RJ-11 port is for? Are you serious? It doesn't matter if the majority of users don't use dial-up anymore. You should know what that port is for. If you said that you didn't know what it was to any IT professional you would be laughed at. It is extremely common knowledge and is included in the A+ test.
>>53651161
Not that dumbass, but I don't see any use for an rj11 port on a laptop. Maybe a docking station.
>>53650977
would hooking up a handset allow you to use rj11 as a voice input on the laptop?
>>53649129
>>53649171
This. The batteries also have thermal sensors that stop charging if they get too hot.
Also, trackpad orientation rotates with screen orientation, letting you use both the touchscreen and trackpad for navigation while holding it like a book.
Maybe the keys are wider than usual to make it easier to type sideways?
>>53651208
Yes but it comes with a mic, and plenty of studio quality USB mics.
>>53651193
That's not what I'm saying. I too, don't see any practical use for RJ-11 on a laptop anymore because almost all enterprises use VOIP now over RJ-45. My point is that if you don't know what RJ-11 is used for, you are either under the age of 10 or extremely ignorant.
>>53651229
interesting
I guess it's nice if you prefer a handset for some reason
>>53651247
Yeah, but thats why it should be on a docking station
Any good and cheap* laptops with UEFI SecureBoot where I could add my own keys? Good to prevent so called "Evil Maid".
> inb4 FUD
* Dell M4800 has it but that's fucking daamn too much expensive.
>>53651193
thinkpads are business machines made for travelling
imagine you go to a very remote place like africa or some shit and need dat internet for something really important, you have everything to connect your computer to the internets
>>53651247
>>53651262
You also have to remember that the X201 was released in 2010 when VOIP was still pretty expensive.
>>53651274
Dell m4800s are fucking sick. Write your own UEFI though you fucking pussy.
>>53651293
Well, I'm not going to africa anytime soon. I don't think many businessmen do.
>>53651298
Writing and flashing my own UEFI BIOS for a laptop with closed specs is close to impossible.
>>53651296
also, dial up is more common than you think if you're outside large populated areas. Made sense to include it on a business line
>>53651350
Whatever, pussy
>>53651366
Agreed. My family didn't have broadband until around 2007, when I was 14. I used my laptop's RJ-11 port to connect to dial-up in the living room.
If I get the nando4 eGPU setup thing, can I use an eGPU on a T530?
Also, has anyone overclocked a T430/T530? (cpu, igpu, dgpu, ram)
>>53651511
Not him but why is an eGPU exclusively gaming related
>>53651536
If you're doing something non gaming related, you wont have a chinkpad. m4800, mbp etc.
>>53651511
it's a question that only applies to one thinkpad model, how is /v/ supposed to know
>>53651628
Theyre not, but you should fuck off back. Gaming is not /g/. we are not your tech support.
What is wrong whit L series?
>>53651647
>thinkpad general
>general for thinkpad questions
>we are not your tech support
ok cletus
>>53651746
I dont see that in the OP. You in a different thread?
>>53651794
He's just saying there's nothing wrong with asking a support question regarding thinkpads
>>53651647
>>53651511
>IM MEMES
>>53651794
Then what is your definition of the Thinkpad General, oh wise and all-knowing anon?
>>53651938
I just read the OP, faggot.
>>53651946
Oh I did, too. I didn't see much of a topic though, other than a buyer's guide. I just want to make sure I'm repeating the right information and not encouraging off-topic discussion, so what is the ThinkPad General for again, exactly?
>>53651973
Lol butthurt faggot. kys
>>53651647
While it was a stupid question and I'm all for chemoing /tpg/, at least it was related to specific model hardware. If the question had been:
>how do I use linux to clone a partition on my T530
that can and should be directed to either /flt/ or /sqt/ as the question really has nothing to do with it being a T530. There are a million anons posting questions related to pricing and ebay that should be shot on sight.
>>53652017
Yeah that's what I figured.
Exactly how much worse is the E-series?
It's the only one I can find good specs for where I live.
>>53653175
It's exactly 28.73% worse.
>>53653175
Let me guess 11E?
>>53653239
I can live with that. You pulled it totally out of your ass, or does the quality really feel less than 1/3rd worse?
>>53653307
No, more like E-550
>>53653426
How much?
>>53653470
900 bux for i7 and M265
trying to find a powerful rig with quality build is a bitch
seriously, why do they always put expensive components in shitty plastics, it boggles my mind
>>53653426
I'm just being cheeky, m8. Never handled an E-series personally. From lurking, folks will comment they lack a magnesium rollcage and other features that make it "rugged business class". IIRC some even lack the clitmouse. Your particular use case may not need them. Really, that's where anybody should start when looking for a laptop - what do you want/need it for and how do you plan to use it?
>>53653546
nvm just found one for 810 bux, same specs
>>53648050
Bullshit. Which one did YOU get? My 9 cell that I got off Amazon only lasts 3 hours
I want to upgrade my T420 to a quad core. Can't find a 2860QM for cheap, only 2760QMs and below.
Should I wait for a good deal for a 2860QM or just got with a 2760QM or something like that? I'm kind of on the fence right now.
>>53654026
Hope you'll enjoy your new toaster anon.
>>53653879
is it genuine lenovo?
>>53654118
No, but he said his was 26$ so it couldn't be genuine either.
>>53654134
Mine was $26, brand new from eBay unused, genuine Lenovo.
I get 8.5 hours with TLP on Arch Linux on T420. Chinese batteries are shit and rarely hold their advertised capacity.
>>53654153
Fug...
>>53654134
>$26 can't be genuine
First mistake was buying this stuff off Amazon rather than eBay like the rest of us
>>53654243
Just check around and get another one that's genuine and you should be gud
http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_47417.html is this a bad idea?
>>53654301
>http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_47417.html is this a bad idea?
404 is never a good idea anon
>>53654301
yes, very bad. always buy genuine.
>>53654245
>>53654280
Feels bad man
>>53654327
I did the same shit too anon, i highlighted whole thing.
>>53654363
>http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_47417.html is this a bad idea
lol yeah. now it is all good.
Just making sure... If the seller shows the bios does that mean it's not password locked? (assuming he sends the one in the picture)
if thinkpads are so great, why are there so many on the market that no one wants and therefore they are so cheap to acquire...
also, someone please explain this thinkpad meme to me. thanks.
>>53654766
Because businesses buy them by the palette and then liquidate when it's time to upgrade.
>>53654766
>>53654777
This, every teacher in my old high school had a Latitude E6500, they're gonna retire them eventually.
>>53654799
>>53654777
OIC thanks.
so, are there any that are equivalent to my current laptop?
>lenovo Y580 i7 3630, gtx 660m, 6GB RAM - i really like it. it's done me good for 3-4 years now. bought an open box for <$900 at microcenter and just went looking for more and can't find one for less than $500 used on ebay/amazon/cl/etc...
Which is the best in the Tablet line? The x220t?
Battery life is a factor.
>>53654858
What a beast of a laptop that is for a consumer machine, If you're big on graphics, a business class thinkpad might disappoint, but if you want a durable computer that is relatively thin, and has the fast processor and decent graphics, you'll like the thinkpad better.
>>53654907
really i want 2 cheap laptops that can play minecraft for my nephews to migrate from console version. then i want them to learn to program and start with minecraft mods, since they are big on that. is the a cheap thinkpad that can play minecraft well enough? would prefer to pay less than 200/machine
>>53654777
>>53654959
A T420 with those Quadro graphics will do it for him.
If the laptop shows the bios screen is it safe to buy?
>>53655017
thank you knowledge whale!
>>53651647
autism
>>53651498
yes, you can use an egpu with the egpu setup thing, you can find it on chink download sites
you can overclock the dgpu. a latitude e6430 will let you overclock the cpu
>>53654766
go ask on twitter
My dream gf is X1 carbon btw
Thinking of buying a T520/T530 to replace my old macbook, whose motherboard is failing.
Opinions?
From what i can tell, the only major difference between the 520 and the 530 is the stupid chiclet keyboard, which i dislike.
Should i save a little bit of money and get the T520, which is a little slower and older, but has a nicer keyboard?
I can find more 520's with the Nvidia graphics compared to the 530's.
>>53656851
I'd get the T520, you could use the money saved to get something nice for it like an SSD.
>>53656897
What about the W520?
I can get them for a similar price, and they're a little bit more powerful
Bought a dock for my T420. Should i get a 90w adapter of will my 65w work just fine?
>>53656905
Other than supporting really powerful 55w cpus and more powerful gpus, they are identical, and I'd only suggest getting one for serious workstation usage cause it will be a power using brick with a 55w chip in it.
>>53656936
Hmm.
I think i'll go for the w520 then
I don't mind the potential for garbage battery life, and i'd certainly make good use of the more powerful GPU's as i do CAD work from time to time.
I'll keep an eye out for one with an i7, the 1080p screen and the 1000M cuadro.
Thanks!
>>53656977
The processor is user upgradable, so if you cant find one with the good QM, you can always put in one yourself later.
>>53656998
Dualcore models only have two RAM slots though, quadcore ones come with four.
>>53657027
derp, forgot about that.
>>53656977
Cool, as a desktop replacement, it's a straight up beast.
>>53656977
> 1000M
You can do better than that.
Just finished putting my i7 2820qm into my T520 which originally had an i5.
Sorry to that dude who wanted pics, my phone had no battery and I was getting in the groove of things.
Installation was a pain but things still went smoothly, keyboard bezel was a bugger to get the off thanks to me forgetting the screw under the hard drive, with all my yanking I'm surprised I didn't break anything.
The thermal module was another tricky bastard to figure out, real pain to get free, also I had to cut the black tape where the thermal module contacts the CPU to accommodate the much longer i7.
That's all my whinging, now I'm less of an amateur if i was do do it again there would be way fewer headaches. Whole process took be 2 hours.
Temps have been pretty good knowing I got the base model heatsink (1 heatpipe), thermal paste I used was arctic ceramique. Running cpuz's stress test the hottest core got to 91c after 10 mins without hyperthreading. With hyperthreading I saw it go to 93 then I stopped the stress test. Idle temps are 6 degrees lower than the i5 (probably due to better thermal compound) Ambient temp was 26c.
Will post cpuz bench scores of both cpus.
>>53657423
i7 cpuz benchmark scores. No hyperthreading.
>>53657436
And this is the i5 cpuz benchmark scores with hyperthreading.
Speaking of modded X220 and W520.
Anybody ever bothered upgrading the screen of a W520 past 1920x1080?
Interested because more pixels are always better.
Going to repaste my t420 and put in a 250gb 850 EVO, anything else i should get for it while amazon shopping?
>>53656851
The 20 series are also compatible with chink batteries, which for me it's a game changing factor.
>>53657817
>t420 and put in a 250gb 850 EVO,
it's gonna run SATA. might be overkilling it anon
>>53658104
its not a msata drive. im going to put the hdd in a ultrabay caddy.
if i was going msata, what ssd would you reccomend for ~$80 though?
anyone with a tablet variant does windows 10 fuck up for you when in windows apps?
>inb4 windows is trash
I dualboot for work, so i need some help here bros.
Is it worth to repair a ibm thinkpad t60's broken screen and missing parts such as the proper hard dive mount and buy two CD bay HDD's and a Battery for that bay and a replacement for the main battery?
And while adding in a wireless card that can do Bluetooth and packet injection that would nattily work with kail linux.
>>53647613
Did you have a charge threshold activated?
>>53658122
>>53658122
your confused. you're putting a SATA 3 drive into a SATA 2 bus. it will revert to 3Gbps, which is fine, but IMO it's stupid to buy a premium ssd when you can get a sata 2 for less. you can get a crucial sata2 256 for like $60
>>53658840
i know that the msata slot is a sata 2 bus, im buying a regular ssd for the hard drive caddy, which is sata3. the ultrabay is also sata3. im buying from amazon because i have $54 in gift card credit (and the thermal paste is an addon item so i need to spend $20 anyways to get it). i could get a crucial bx200 , but reading reviews on amazon and elsewhere, its $20 less because it its slower than the 850 would be.
Yoga 260, yay or nay?
what is the correct approach to a long battery life?
>discharge and recharge once a month
or
>discharge and recharge at every cance
>>53660736
Never let it go over 80% for long periods of time
never let it go under 10%
Stupid question here. Does somebody have an ascii art of the Thinkpad logo?
>>53658125
what do you mean by windows apps?
calculator runs fine for me on the x220t, that's a windows app
>>53649520
T520
>>53661187
http://picascii.com/
Is this a good deal? I'm tempted, especially since it ends in 3 hours. No OS, but that's what Linux is for.
>>53663224
i'd say it's fair, if there's no chance of there being an administrator password or some shit like that
who else comfy here?
>>53663377
Trip dubs confirm.
Contacting seller about passwords and then falling for the meme.
>>53651047
your RAM: KVR13S9S8/4 = 4GB 1Rx8 512M x 64-Bit PC3-10600 CL9 204-Pin SODIMM
1Rx8 = single rank, x200/x201 only supports dual-rank (2Rx8)
see http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=117395
>>53662019
multi touch.
multi touch works on my x220T, even on chrome and Photoshop,
but when using the photos app or just windows apps, the windows apps or the start menu get non responsive to touch input.
I'm starting to think it's windows.
A good way I replicated the issue was zooming in on photos in the photos app on the touchscreen.
>>53664885
Touch input doesn't work for me when I use the photos app either, so it's not just your machine.
>>53665870
Thanks anon. Did you update your drivers?
Bought T450s today. Why did noone warn me there is a touchscreen? How do I disable it?
>>53666070
try not touching the screen
>>53666070
>didn't do research on the model you were buying
>end up with a touchscreen model
>blame /tpg/
Kill yourself please.
>>53666301
Well i always read they are good, went into a store because i need a laptop for travelling next month. Didn't think much about it, bought one because the specs / size were good for me.
Question still stands - how do i disable the touchscreen?
>>53666500
no idea why you'd want to, but essentially go into the device manager, expand the list of human interface devices, and then right click the ones that say touch screen and click disable
I just bought a T400 (with no HDD) for $15...How did I do?
>>53666606
>A still very usable Penryn for $15
Lucky guy.
>>53666636
I think the guy who sold it to me thought it was obsolete junk.
>>53666023
I'm using what ever generic drivers that Windows 10 autoupdate gives me, since Lenovo doesn't officially support X220 T on Windows 10.
I wouldn't be surprised if Windows store apps are just gimped for some machines. It's like how OneDrive is so obnoxiously un-user friendly and doesn't let you choose how much bandwidth to use within the program.
Anyway, that's not the only thing that's broken with Windows 10 and the X220 Tablet - the top and bottom screen gestures don't work as they're supposed to (i.e. show the title bar when in full screen or show the task bar in full screen), although the left side screen gesture (app view) and right screen gesture (action center) works.
How bad exactly are the default T420 panels? Is there a decent video demonstration of them in action?
>>53666777
HD3000 has an official Windows 10 driver. Download it from Intel site, anon.
>>53647444
thinking about getting an x240 at half the usual price I could get it where I live.
What would you do /tpg/ ?
A shop around here is selling refurbished T420s with an i5 2430M, 4GB of RAM, and 320GB hard drive for $199 Canadian. Is this a good price? I'm tempted.
I have a x31, x250, t420, t430, t430s and a x250.
Which one should I use? I currently use the t430s because it's lighter and I can take it around when doing pentesting.
>>53667508
went to their website, but no windows 10 drivers for the hd 3000 with 2nd gen intel. There's a windows 10 driver for integrated graphics with intel N processors, but it won't work for the X220 tablet anyway.
the hd 3000 drivers on their website are the same version as the one windows 10 auto-update gave me, so no change there.
i mean, most of the hardware works perfect. but some things like the thinkvantage button, certain fn keys, and the touch screen are just not perfect and I just learned to live with it.
>>53667644
not get it because no tackpoint buttons is terrible to use.
>>53667662
not bad actually. does it have a warranty?
>>53667644
x240 < x230, x250
>>53666070
do work anon. start sending those GNOME touchscreen bug reports. it's super helpful.
>>53668171
The shop offers a few month warranty on it as far as I know.
>>53668179
even with the battery life difference?
Im getting a 3 - 3 beep code error on my X301, I am fairly certain that the keyboard is fully dead. It wont respond at all when booting or even when it boots to Xubuntu, but a USB keyboard will work fine. The only description for the beep codes is Board Error so not sure if its something worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZe6ZVnUOec
Dont wanna drop the cash for a new keyboard if its a full system error.
>>53669859
4 - 4 *
What was the flagship best thinkpad in the Windows 98/ME era?
I want to get an old machine, because why not? Not sure what to buy.
>>53669892
600x
Just bought a x201s, how did I do?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X201s-i7-L620-Laptop-Notebook-3GB-2-0GHz-No-HDD-Boots-to-BIOS-/281972847503?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=tFSL05LWCX9DqkGao%252FbHjTyOYDk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
>>53670014
>All that business class hardware
You did pretty good, since he's giving you an X200 for parts, get that running and you'll have to computers to fuck with.
>>53670090
The fuck is this?
What's the best (most powerful) thinkpad with the colorful logo and the blue enter key?
>>53670438
I had bought a 'low spec' Latitude E6400, and the pserosn in the computer shop fucked up, and sent my a higher end one that they had listed for a more expensive price on Amazon.
I saw a Korean guy once install an HD screen in his X220t. Does anyone have an idea how to do it?
>>53670471
Good shit. I would love to get that lucky sometime. But it's not meant to be...
>>53670450
The T60 and T61 in 4:3 were the last to have the colored logo and blue key.
>>53670495
I take it back, it was the T60 that was the last to have the classic look.
>>53670471
is that a broken usb port?
>>53670471
Tbf, you ordered a piece of shit and received a piece of shit.
I wouldn't be too happy about it.
>>53670741
No, it just looks weird, they all work.
>>53670767
But at least I got the higher end piece of shit with a webcam, dual band wifi and bluetooth.
>>53670450
The stickers for the T61p use the same dimensions so you could buy one. Though T61ps tend to melt because lolnvidia
The blue enter key on its own however, continued until the chiclet plague
Hi guys. I just bought a T420 on ebay and it comes with a dock but no key. What am in for?
>>53671635
post specs
the keys arent really needed as long as it comes unlocked. not like you have to worry about dindus in your living room eying your thinkpad.
>>53647514
They are weird, idgaf on the wear and tear, palm rest and keyboard are like $50 if I need to replace it.
>>53647607
So long as you aren't using an Ivy bridge or anything newer laptop, you should be fine.
3rd party batteries work, 3rd party aC adapters are hot, shitty and noisy.
>>53647648
Not necessarily, the laptop might of had its hard drive pulled and destroyed, and because they aren't selling a hard drive it is less QC to deal with because people expect a 'good hard drive' to their definition.
I do buy laptops with hard drives that are wiped as they are sometimes priced the same as some without hdds.
>>53650805
was your screen red or did it flicker at all?
Bad backlight
If not hen the inverter went bad, it is right below the LCD when you open up the screen.
In an off chance, a capacitor or something might of blown on the mobo, I currently don't know how to replace that or pinpoint it.
>>53650898
No, but I think I'll keep that in mind when I get to later dankpad posts
>>53651350
Don't be a bitch
>>53651651
Lx30 and later are fine
Edge/L series were shittier machines compared to the R series, some enthusiast say the Acer made iSeries and early R generation laptops were better built.
>>53653175
Get an e series of you never had a ThinkPad, it wouldn't matter
But it won't be built as a tank.
Hey /tpg/, I've been researching laptops and I want something that
-has the ability to run high definition video
-have many tabs open w/o lag, and other programs running in the background
-can run DAWS and autocad/modeling programs fairly easily
-good resolution screen
-very long battery life
-can be repaired easily
-will last 3~ years
Thinkpad comes to mind for easy repair and durability, and I find the newer models fit all my requirements. I'd considered the T430-T460, and I can get the T460 new for relatively cheap with a corporate code. But I'm nervous about purchasing because of how new it is and the lack of reviews.
Is it worth getting? Are there better options for my requirements at the $500-$1000 range?
>>53672053
w520 or w530
>>53656905
i7 W520's benefit with having 4 RAM slots.
T/W530 will have ivy bridge but will not take 3rd party batteries, but both are near the same build quality. Keyboard is whatever.
>>53658174
Not really, broken screens are a big no factor. Keep looking.
>>53663224
Nab it
>>53666678
It technically is.
As much as j like a T400 its outdated
>>53667492
I will post tomorrow.
*drool*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ON3ogxzHT0
>>53672053
w520. I run like 30 tabs in chrome, eclipse, word, pdfs, onenote, etc all at once and only use up like 7gb out of 16gb. I can run some 4k content on youtube, but all 2k content runs fine with no stutters. Battery life is going to be shit for any laptop with dedicated graphics. I get 3.5 hours on my 6 cell battery in win 10 battery saver mode + power saver profile.
>>53667944
This.It has flaws which sucks like the trackpoint ruining the tablet mode but you get used to it
>>53667662
Pretty good IMO, s models ask for more, you get USB 3.0
>>53667734
X250 in the car, T430 as desktop, T430s as ebin pen testing, T420 for faps. x31 for... Idk
>>53668426
Probably basing it off the TrackPoint /touchpad
>>53669939
Yes
>>53669892
755 has probably the best keyboard but the AC adapter is a bitch to get
T20's are comfy, A22p if you want a UXGA machine.
>>53672053
At least 8GB ram,
W530, T430, W540, T540p.
>W550s for keks
Starting a new job in two weeks. Electronics hardware design/general embedded work (lots of cad programs and C).
Work's going to buy me a laptop, want to get a ThinkPad. Already have an X201 and love it, want to get a new X series for work (lots of traveling so portability is a big factor).
The X1 carbon and yoga look like stupid macbook air clones, and don't seem to have removable batteries, so I'm leaning towards the X260. What's the consensus on the 260? Advice or suggestions? Does Lenovo make any X series models besides these three?
Anyone tried putting gentoo in an x220? How long does emerging x11 take?
>>53672645
I'm running gentoo on an x220, it's an i7 though. I don't remember x11 taking too long.
Can I insert this on a R61? I'm scared...
>>53672802
Hell yeah, my old ass E6400 can run those, it's not even possible for that RAM to break your shit.
>>53672335
I have the X1 yoga and battery life has been stellar. I went 12 hours with battery saver mode with 75% backlight.
>>53672834
forgot pic
>>53672335
The carbon it's the same shit but with a large screen. I'd get one of those.
CF-T8 stronk
And it plays ReVolt beautifully too.
What next, Deus Ex?
>>53672909
Cool laptop, would make a great 4:3 beater, I like how the DVD player flips up, for use in a tight space.
Just bought a t550 for $425
How good did i do mang?
>>53672987
Good deal for a broadwell 15 incher (I think it's a broadwell).
>>53672981
Actually, it's the smaller, optical-drive-less variant. I rescued a pair from my local thrift shop.
I've been getting autistic for the past three threads over them, they are faster and more capable than you'd think from the specs, much lighter than they look, pack some quality hardware, and they look like something out of Gundam.
Oh yeah and they're tough as all hell. These things were bouncing around my local Goodwills at $100 for almost a year, and I think most people thought they were toys and treated them as such.
When I picked up this one, someone had dumped an electric radiator on it to use the wall socket.
>>53673192
I feel you, that penryn is still is a strong running cpu.
But how do I look cool at Starbucks if I'm using a ThinkPad?
>>53673283
Get an apple sticker and fake em out.
Brain dead sheep can't tell a difference anyways
>>53673322
>>53673392
This.
My friend had an old silver and white dell he put an apple sticker on. People would always ask him if it was a mac.
