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Previous thread: >>53590480
>tfw my Teensy++ 2.0 just arrived
:3
Now to see how it works
should've named it no retarded ansi vs iso arguments edition.
>>53627542
holy shit its small
>>53627580
for a pcb? not really.
>>53627709
I've just seen the images of it on a computer sceen and didn't think they'd be "zoomed" in
Need a new keyboard
>$200
>USA
>cherry blues
>RGB backlit
>Have a TK keyboard but its driving me crazy I need a full keyboard.
>>53627847
Ducky Shine 5
>>53627854
well its just a shame that the chinks cant make them
in
>his keyboard isn't cute
why not anon?
>>53628046
>using a meme layout
>>53628046
that's kinda gay
>>53627580
And you bought the plus-sized version.
>>53628077
your life is a meme layout
>>53628083
well yea ofc
>>53628181
Normal 2.0 wasnt available in the country
>>53628303
Where?
What are some cheap Cherry-MX Brown Tenkeyless? Or any colour with a tactile bump?
>>53628390
Sweden
>>53627917
every photo you post only raises more questions
>the diods are soldered inside of the switch
why would you do that
>>53628759
For better light spreading.
>>53628578
Couldn't you have ordered it from falbatech?
>>53628784
makes it so much harder for me to use this board for other switches which was my plan
>>53628807
Desoldering and resoldering LEDs is a huge pain in the first place, but yeah, they don't really design LED boards with modfications on the side of the user in mind.
>>53628805
Have never heard of that site
Anyway the ++ 2.0 should be able to do everything 2.0 does tho?
>>53628825
It's not the leds
they're a pain also tho
>>53628595
check out this sick TKL layout
and i do mean sick
it's fucking disgusting to type on
>>53628829
Both are supported by tmk, if that's what you mean.
>>53628909
Whats sick on the layout?
>>53628909
Is that a touchscreen?
What keycaps should I be looking at with legends that -don't- fade, or are blanks the only way? :/
>>53629154
Doubleshots.
i lowkey wish i had a lolita spyder over my quickfire rapid. the white spyder just looks so fucking beautiful.
>>53627847
Masterkeys Pro L.
>needing RGB
>any year
>>53629154
Doubleshot, though dye-sub is also quite damn long-lived.
>>53629110
nothing
it's a joke
they're like flat metal domes and every single key chatters
>>53629150
no
the fake trackball is a touchpad
>>53627917
Do you live in a barn?
>>53629243
i'm not at home
>>53629368
Do you work in a barn?
>>53629368
>P207
You're alright.
>>53629399
i guess you could call it a barn but more like a shop
the cat is sleeping on packing material
>>53629496
209
and we have a billion of them all over the place
>>53627917
Nice rubberdomes...
>>53629368
>>53629585
no not really
>>53629572
0,9mm this is thick. Here we use 0,3mm, 0,5mm and 0,7mm.
>>53629597
I think you didn't get the joke.
>>53629656
don't use them for drafting, just writing
>>53629726
probably not
>>53629749
>don't use them for drafting, just writing
Ah, ok. I love pic related for drafting and 0,7 also for writing.
How shit are the zorro switches in the Akjazz ak33, I accidentally fell for the meme
>>53630735
literally both the switches are the kb are something most people haven't even heard of. i can only ask why did you think it was a good idea?
>>53630969
But shit it was $30 for a 82 key
what other autistic shit can i add to my photos
>>53630984
>$30
>asking if it's shit
seriously?
>>53630992
The rest of your mom's basement
CONVINCE MY FRIEND NOT TO BUY MX BROWNS.
>>53631011
well it's my basement, but it's not like it really matters
>>53631020
everyone has to learn the hard way
>>53631020
>>53631064
Whats bad about them? Considering as well as I want tactile switches with clear actuation point. Without being excessively noisy.
>>53631115
>with clear actuation point
Have you tried any other cherry switches?
Browns suck in terms of tactility.
>>53631125
Limited to black/red. Didn't like them. What would you suggest?
>>53631115
well the problem is that you can't really feel the actuation point
it's pretty indistinct
i guess gaterons are supposed to be better
>>53631151
Thanks. How about topre?
>>53631145
Clears or ergo-clears, or non-cherry switches such as zealios or browns from knockoff browns.
>>53631194
You can't really compare topre to mx-style switches, but it's damn nice.
>>53631203
Would Kalih's be said knockoff-browns?
>>53631222
Kalihs are trash get gaterons or something else
>>53631222
Or gateron, I hear more positive things about gateron than I do about kalih, but that's mostly in the department of linears. You'd have to do some research about how bad/good the respective quality control is.
>>53631194
pretty great if you don't mind bottoming out
>>53628428
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1070664-REG/cooler_master_sgk_4000_gkcm1_us_storm_quickfire_rapid_contact.html
>>53631236
>>53631242
>>53631245
I see. Thanks a lot. There is a quite cheap topre hhkb being sold near me, probably giving it a shot then. Clears/gateron browns if it ends up not being satisfying enough.
>>53630992
I have no idea...
>>53631372
I have an HKKB. Love it a lot but Im not a shill and It may not be worth the crazy price. Regret not getting the jap model even though its MORE expensive lol.
>>53631425
What's so different about the jap model? The one being sold near me is a jap model. It's not that expensive, only slighty more expensive than what an equivalent Ducky would be.
>>53631408
aren't you supposed to paint those? :^
>>53631453
well
it's a jap layout so some of the keys are different
i bought a set of normal HHKB keys to replace the ones that didn't make sense
effectively making my meme board even more expensive
also the extra fn key and arrow keys is a bonus
>>53631453
arrow keys better fn key and it looks dank idk
>>53631453
but alsoooo it has the mini spacebar sooo depends on how you feel about that
>tfw when I have the o-rings but not my first mech-board yet
H-Hold me /mkg/
>>53631408
I will, but I need some free time... Damn, i really need some free time...
>>53631555
Was meant for
>>53631514
this is taking some getting used to but i like the macros and stuff
i think ill get a poker 3 later on so i can program some of my own and shit
>>53631703
I'll have to show this to the japanese once I travel there.
I'm sure they'll love the escape key.
>>53631555
>>53631571
yes
pretty time consuming stuff
>>53631739
i didnt realize the that i had put a nuke on a japanese key set until some one pointed it out lel
now i have to keep it on there
>>53631786
It is.
I like your stuff. good work, nice painting.
My little brother killed all of my planes. (About 25 years ago) I miss my Stuka. Maybe if my kids getting a bit older, i will have some time again.
DHL better hurry the fuck up with those memes.
>>53632073
what memes, brotaku?
>>53632091
400 gaterons.
>>53632124
that's quite a few memes
what color?
I need to get a keycap puller.
I assume literally any one will do, yeah?
>>53632144
200 clears and 200 blacks. I ordered together with a friend whos getting 200 reds for his pok3r so he probably won't mind lending me some of those.
Also waiting for a memeforce (with free chinese shipping, so that's going to take a while), shit's gonna be dank
>>53630992
>>53631408
>>53631786
I have some autist models as well.
>>53632198
get one of those nice giant metal 'U's, those are the best
>>53632211
You picked the wrong side... But nice models.
We need more of this.
>>53632553
Ill take more of the side in a few
>>53632229
You mean like this?
>>53631408
as someone who uses greys, do I really have no other option other than to change springs to like 120g ones? Even greys are getting too light. I have a cherry brown donor keyboard but the platemounted so I dont think I could do easily change the springs. I wish I could since it's a nice keyboard, just light as shit switches and I just can't use it.
>>53632553
>>53633030
Nice. I think I should build a Tiger II
>>53633030
>>53630992
Added Sherman for surprise buttsex.
>>53633172
I think you should, i got this at the local flee market for $5.
>>53633172
>revell
disgusting
>>53633230
I have a Sherman but it fell off the shelf and broke the barrel and mantlet off. So now it just looks stupid and idk were the peices went. Sad times.
>>53633315
scratchbuild a new one
your local railroad hobby shop should have styrene rods and sheet
BLACKED
>>53633255
This is hot. What brand and what scale?
>>53633454
dragon 1/35
one of the kits with molded zimmerit
>>53633248
I should visit more flea markets...
Anyone actually use the USB slots in their hhkb?
I like the idea of them but have no use for them.
>>53633476
I will look for this.
>>53633248
I also got a 23" acer s231hl for $5 from the flea market about a year ago. Worked great till I sold it.
>>53633506
never use em. can't charge your phone with em they are pretty much useless
>>53633315
Sad thing, also
>>53633375
>>53633506
>>53633542
I don't have hhkb, but I guess it could be nice for a numpad like Tesoro Tizona TS-G2N-P
>>53633614
if I had a numpad yeah
>>53633627
Memory stick, cardreader, mouse... I think I would use it.
>>53633683
>mouse
nahh B the cable gonna be all up in your shit unless you are some kinda wireless fag
>>53633721
Mx master is a great mouse and its wireless
>>53630992
Onaholes
>>53632091
what keyboard is that
>>53634264
do i look like some kind of degenerate to you?
>>53634372
HHKB pro JP
What's a nice Purple LED keyboard/mouse? Looking for something silent.
I'm thinking of getting my wife a wasd code pok3r with browns. Good choice? I need a black Kb with white leds. I use a code 104 w/ clears.
>>53634538
From my experience people typically like reds more but other wise solid choice.
>>53631550
It only takes an hour to get used to the mini-spacebar at max.
>>53633542
>can't charge
Wait really? That sucks, my Filco Minila would charge my phone.
>>53627531
>tfw keyboard chattering on my 2yo shine 3
Welp time to resolder it with gateron reds
>>53627531
>tfw just ordered this
does /g/ know if i can mod the backlights to show a pepe?
thoughts on pok3r?
mfw fell for the artisan meme
>>53638851
All of my why.
>>53638988
hyperconsumerist culture got me :(
>>53632073
amen
>Visit 3 German cities when you're going to Sweden
>>53639407
Just like the refugees.
>>53638851
An escape or win key artisan is fine if it fits the theme.
Replacing the whole function row is full retarded.
What does /mkg/ think of Romer-G switches?
>>53640674
Worse than browns. Less tactile, lower travel distance, wobbles... And stock keycaps are pretty shitty and impossible to replace with better ones.
The switch itself is well built tho, probably more resistent than cherry. Omron usually does well on that part.
>>53641289
What switches are better than browns?
>>53641503
Tactile ones? Clears, Ergo Clears, Zealios, Matias Quiet Click, Gateron browns.
>>53627531
Wasn't there a list of recommended keyboards somewhere?
>>53641503
Every switch.
>>53641764
Except linears.
Why isnt maxkeyboard.com on the where to buy guide?
I'm looking for a Cherry Switch Tester kit, I live in europe (Belgium) the one form WASD is expensive at shipping.
>>53641903
No, linears are comfy
Browns are bad because they are the worst of both worlds.
>>53639678
40 shek-kekels.
a question for you 60% guys. when programming i often use the shortcut ctrl+shift+arrow keys to move a set of highlighted lines around and i feel this would be uncomfortable with all the different ways to map arrow keys on 60%s.
capslock + ijkl seems like the best method, but then again pressing capslock shift and ctrl with my left hand seems unnatural
what do you guys use?
>>53642301
get one with arrow keys
>>53642301
Arrow keys are big to me as well, I roll TKL because of that.
>>53642301
>>53642375
>>53642389
>>53642909
also a nice layout.
I guess its a big of a problem to find keycaps
>>53642932
That's what I've got a whole bag of various silicone and resin products for - making my own.
>>53642909
the bottom row is too meme for real use.
>>53633315
Change the painting and you now have a "Disabled Sherman model"
>>53643126
What about the 'poo?
Thoughts on the CM Storm NovaTouch TKL?
I got Cherry clears. How does it compare?
>>53643267
it's a very different feel
>>53643293
I suppose he's worried about the lack of Windows key, Fn key, etc..
>>53643126
Why? Everything is standard ANSI 150.
a new meme arrives
>>53643492
>rubber dome
>>53643568
yeh
Will this work for wiring switches?
One end goes to a pin, the other goes all together into ground.
I don't need diodes and such if I'm not doing a matrix, right?
>>53643673
hint: what will the reading on a pin be if the key isn't pressed? what will it be if it is pressed?
>>53643752
From my limited understanding of this wizardry, on when not pressed, and off when pressed.
>>53643568
did somebody say RUBBER DOMES?
I don't want to import from gookland and wait three weeks, how shit is this scheme? I only literally need to replace one key but there's no way of getting a blank key of a decent color over here, not without importing.
>>53643864
good meme friendo.
3 more days till my keyboard finally ships.
>>53643983
What'cha waiting for?
>>53643991
Terminus Mini. A matrix layout 40%. Kinda wish I ordered the diverge though now but would have been more expensive.
>>53643829
Never used a Teensy, but if those pins will be pulled up then yes, it'll work.
>>53644195
Yes, I believe the Teensy does pull-up.
Thanks.
>>53643238
dear god I don't understand why anyone bought the choc mini before they standardized their bottom row
>>53645153
Likewise.
>>53644054
Yes he finally has all the parts.
>>53646089
post pictures
>>53646201
Its essentially this but I got gray caps instead. Should be shipping this week.
>>53646357
I'm curious to hear how ortholinear works out for you.
I've been eyeing the plank for no good reason whatsoever.
>>53646382
Same here I got it for no good reason at all besides space saving really. Going to be fun to hinder myself just for a cute keyboard.
I Want a new keyboard. My Model M is being troublesome.
>Preferably MX Greens. I hated browns and i suspect that i would hate linear switches aswell.
>Would be happy with bucking springs aswell.
>Needs to be 60%
>NO brand/model preferences.
>Preferably solid build.
>No backlight unless fully programmable RGB
>Budget : $150 Max.
I could get a pok3r RGB and replace the switches. Is there a better option?
Is there anything out there for me , /g/
>>53646475
>>I could get a pok3r RGB and replace the switches
I'd suggest you just get a pok3r with greens. Desoldering and resoldering LEDs is a horrible pain.
>>53646542
Is it not possible to just switch the stems/springs?
The regular pok3r isnt RGB. and there is no RGB pok3r with greens.
I realize it's fuss about rice but hey, rice is nice.
>>53646645
>Is it not possible to just switch the stems/springs?
Not without desoldering the switches (and thus the LEDs).
>>53646658
goddamn it, why are there so many posts about switching switch type by just popping off the switch housing?
Did i miss something?
>>53646685
that only works when the switches are PCB mounted, or if the plate has notches that let you get to the switch top release hole thingies.
>>53646685
Certain plate cutouts allow for it, PCB mounted switches allow for it.
The pok3r doesn't fulfill these conditions, and you'd have to desolder anyway since the LED goes through the switch casing and sits on the top part of it.
>>53647834
wow bro that keyboard is CLEAN
>>53647938
Don't mention it.
if i want to test an existing matrix of switches
do i need something like pic?
>>53648642
yes, also you need to know what to do with it.
>>53631703
Beautiful keycaps you got there. May i know the name/ where did you got it?
>>53649627
I believe it was through a groupbuy by Ivan the Terrible so you'll probably have to get them used now.
>>53649512
*welp*
>At work
>One workstation has an Asus branded QPAD MK50
>Literally the same as my MK50
>Feels so much nicer to use than my MK50 and K70 (with blues) that I replaced it with
>Figure out it's just because it's the only mechanical workstation keyboard at work
>End up explaining why it feels so nice to a coworker, who happened to ask why it feels so nice
>Take of a keycap
>Cherry MX black switches
It wasn't placebo, those switches are perfect.
>>53651080
It wasn't placebo, you are a pleb.
I need some help with buying my next mech.
>less than $150
>USA
>cherry mx reds
>ansi
>tkl
>leds not necessary
>currently using a hand me down lolita spyder with blacks
I would prefer something with no gaymer branding. If it has a detachable cable, I'd like it to plug in on the bottom. I would also prefer something with media playback controls.
>>53652761
cooler master quickfire rapid
ducky one TKL
kul es87
Got a favorite keyboard that doesnt look like a 1337 gaemr board or some kind of weab keyboard? I like code keyboards but would like them even more if they were about $50 cheaper
Looking at KUL-ES87 and a Pok3r atm. I want the Pok3r(case/pbt keycaps) but I'm so fucking afraid of going 60% as a mild gamer(not hardcore anymore) and developer.
Anyone using the pok3r for gaming/developing have any complaints or is it worth it?
>>53653001
Wait for the Massdrop to go on.
>>53652761
A wasd code
>>53653001
say no more
http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-RK-9000V2/dp/B00S5E4KH2
>>53652761
Filco TKL
>>53653072
Are the boards themselves any good? Given that their keycaps are known to be terrible and that they're more expensive than other TKLs, I don't see why anyone would get one (except if they don't know of other options).
>>53653177
Their keycaps are not known to be terrible.
They are just norhing special. Typical stock keycaps. Better than stock since you can get custom layouts, really.
It is just that they fall short of good aftermarket caps like every other stock set out there).
>>53627531
i've got 55 dollars on amazon and need a new keybaord
what do i get?
those binge keys sold out so fast
>>53653759
oops wrong image
>>53653759
>artisans
>>53653850
tried to cop for resell
>>53653870
Yeah, sure.
WASD caps look kinda gay
>>53642301
>using a shit editor that uses arrow keys for navigation
>>53653870
i'm pretty sure taking advantage of the mentally retarded is illegal
>>53653967
What keyboards are those? I don't know anything about keyboards senpai.
>>53650688
Ah thanks.
i see that they are organizing a gb again, but it looks not well organized enough...
There goes my hope. Time to find another keycaps again..
>>53653997
Leopold FC660M I'm guessing as the Topre variant (FC660C) doesn't have MX stems.
>>53653997
HHKB JP and FC660c
>>53654037
topre caps
>>53654070
OH, I thought you meant WASDkeyboards caps, not caps for the WASD keys.
>>53654070
>>53654037
Thanks.
Finally got to try out a Novatouch today, and I didn't want to accept what I felt...
My god does it feel EXACTLY like a Logitech G510. I sat there for 30 minutes, unplugged, just feeling it.
The only difference is that when you bottom out hard it feels better because of the heavy KB and mounting of the switch. However, the tactility and "soft bottoming" was identical to the Logitech 'gaming' series of membrane keyboards.
>>53654515
hot opinions there bucko
>>53654569
Aww did I touch a nerve?
I'm sorry bud, didn't mean to trigger anything or rape you...
is a hhkb2 worth the price? I've never used a mechanical keyboard before, and I don't know if I should get the hhkb2 or a cheaper ducky one ktl (for example).
if it's important, I don't play games at all
>>53655009
Get the ducky, get your feel for Cherry switches and the different clicks and clacks you can choose from.
You don't want to spend $200+ making a lateral move in keyboards, your first time.
>>53654515
Because it's just a better rubberdome, no one denies it. But it's a really, really good rubberdome.
>>53655190
I deny it, because the two were comparable.
I was thinking it would blow my mind, and its price would be justified. Hell no.
Maybe Topre are the really really good rubberdomes, I haven't tried them, but this Novatouch TKL is complete fucking bullshit.
>>53655061
I was under the impression that hhkb2 used topre switches; are these not much different from cherry switches (I assume this from your post)? I ask because if they're very different, I don't see the practicality in testing the cherry switches.
I am not trying to be rude and disregard your advice, I ask because I am uninformed
So has anyone had an experience with Chinese keyboards? There's one that's pretty cheap ~$59 USD that has hot swappable switches.
>>53655556
It's really not worth it unless you're actually going to swap the switches every week. The build quality is dubious at best, which the switches getting wobbly and parts breaking.
Not to say you can't make good deals buying Chinese. But please try to spend at least $70 and get a switch brand that is at least somewhat known.
i'm not sure what else i can do, i got the corsair strafe cherry silent for 120.
Is that it? what do we talk about? i just wanted something smooth that was quiet with light options.
>>53655710
What do you think about the keyboard? How does it function aesthetically? Do you like the features that Corsair normally brings with their keyboards? How does it feel relative to other keyboards you've used?
>>53629656
who the fuck can use a 0.3mm i had one once and only used it for the novelty, it was like writing with a fishhook
>>53629862
fuck i love these
but seriously,
>master race
it appears that ivan has taken the money and ran
is running 3 gbs at once right now and hasnt responded in months. hasnt sent the money in for the gmk keys even though he has it and was supposed to send it in like july
the imsto keys were sent to him and he still hasnt paid him
even the pbt4 set where i got my kana keys was getting grimy at the end
ivan didnt post except to say he hurt himself.
most people didnt get a tracking number and shit
i thnk you may get a set from shadovved in the future. hes running another pbt set right now although its just a plain legend set
>>53656373
ah shit this was meant for >>53654032
>>53656373
Where can I read more about this?
>>53656401
reddit has nice info on it
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4b66vj/psa_are_you_affected_by_the_ivan_group_buy_scams/
this user wrote a nice article on the fiasco
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4akbng/more_keyboard_drama_id_better_write_an_article/
and of course you can go through these threads from gh
https://geekhack.
org/index.php?PHPSESSID=odftpcvfa1ktnmep9a7ftrjet480el86&topic=71995.550
https://geekhack.
org/index.php?PHPSESSID=odftpcvfa1ktnmep9a7ftrjet480el86&topic=71507.1400
>>53656373
ивaнyшкa нe дypaчoк
>>53656475
naw nigga im not russian
i just type like shit
im not used to this 60% keyboard yet
>>53656427
Cheers
>>53656563
np
be careful when you join a gb
even a seasoned and trusted member like ivan may not complete it and youll be out of your money
some guy on leddit said he was out $500 on the black on black gb
>>53656373
We have a folklore about Ivan the Fool. I said he's not a fool
>>53645153
I didnt know its standardized now. Dont they not use cherry switches anymore though?
>>53645153
i was a fool
it was my first board and i didnt know
>>53656036
>0.3
I have a 0.2 somewhere.
For me, the best keyboard is the wasd code with MX Cherry blue
>>53656837
This
>>53656736
I have a standardized Choc Mini with Gateron Blue switches. As Gateron switches are Obviously Superior™ I don't really mind. "Standardized" really only means bottom row modifiers though--the right shift key is still Capslock size (not a huge problem, lot of keycaps sets these days accommodate for that) and the 5.5u spacebar (huge problem, you ain't swappin in out unless you essentially get something custom made).
Love the board regardless. It's the perfect layout (especially once you've switches the Capslock and Ctrl switches). Wished I got it in black though, as the light-tan case looks pretty cheap.
>>53656036
>who the fuck can use a 0.3mm i had one once and only used it for the novelty, it was like writing with a fishhook
Not for writing. They are only for drafting.
>fuck i love these
They are just perfect.
>but seriously,
>>master race
This is nice for writing or working with wood. Have a bunch of them too.
I worked for Staedtler for about 12 years. They produce at really high standards.
Considering the CM Storm Novatouch TKL and upgrading the keycaps later, as I don't have the money for them right now. The Topre switches have MX stems so it shouldn't be an issue.
Can anyone present any reasons why I would be much happier with an MX keyboard instead?
Typical use will be mostly coding.
>>53657758
>Can anyone present any reasons why I would be much happier with an MX keyboard instead?
You may or may not prefer mx over topre.
That's all.
Are Topre switches worth the price /g/?
Do the new black Choc Minis really come with PBT keycaps? I have a Choc Pro from several years ago and it has POM caps. I like them, they feel kinda slippery but rugged at the same time. ABS just feels like typing on the smooth sides of Lego blocks, yuck. How does PBT compare?
>>53642301
I rebound my function layer + c en v to CTRL+SHIFT+ left and right arrow. One of the benefits of the pok3r is programmability
>>53658244
They are worth the price if you want them.
