What mouse would you add in your experience to this guide, /g/?
>Pic related, what we got so far.
Old thread: >>52110526
>>52138969
Just built my first computer and I got the G303 and a Ducky Shine 4. Mouse is AWESOME and i'll never use a flat keyed (whatever the fuck you call those garbage keyboards) ever again or a Razor mouse.
>>52138969
How to spot the logitech shill:
>putting two of their worst mice on so-called "god tier"
>attempt to garner credibility by adding all time favorite ime3.0 and zowie mice as their equals
>fill in the blanks with random shitty "gaming mice"
>>52138969
What do you guys think of the Microsoft Arc mouse?
>>52138969
>wanting this on your desk
G402 needs to be at least decent tier.
>>52138969
>mionix 7000 series
>inferior sensor
>click latency
Spend a couple of dollars more than you get paid to shill all this logishit and actually try the fucking thing first.
Also, pic related: not only a great mouse, it's the comfiest right handed palm you will ever try.
>>52138969
>Zowie
Not in God Tier, this chart is trash.
Is there any benefit to plugging into a USB3 as opposed to USB2 for a moose?
>>52139555
Maybe it's because I don't play Counter Strike, but I honestly don't care if it's a little bit worse. The shape and the texture is amazing. Comfiest mouse ever.
It is a best mouse! Touchpad!
Since I stopped using the mouse, I got faster. I can use the keyboard faster and my hand now does not hurt.
>>52138969
>all those mice with "inferior" sensors
>actually all of them use flawless sensors
Go McFuck yourself you handlet Logitech™ shill
>>52138969
How are you possibly going to move your mouse at 300inches per sec?
If you want cheap reliable mice go for A4Tech X7 desu senpai, I had an A4Tech X7 F5 bought in 2010, gave it to a friend in 2013 after I bought my Deathadder 2013 which proceeded to die after one year, I bought another X7 (some gibberish model) afterwards that works just fine and has no signs of wear after 1 year. In the meantime my friends F5 works just fine after 5 years.
Are any of the Logitech G-series mice actually decent besides OP's shilling?
Can easily get one from work. Can't remember all the numbers of what we have though.
Can someone tell me why a guide that's autistic about click latency and sensors and is labeled /g/ when the majority here here don't play games? Take this shit to /v/
>>52139026
Mike?
The one true god of fingerly input
Doesn't the intellimouse need to be modded to be useful for gaming?
>>52138969
Way to shill up the picture.
Put G602 in god tier
>>52138969
>some newly marketed shit instead of G400s
shill pls go
the only good answer
>muh games
fuck you. Theres Controllers for that
>falling for the shitty muh perfect sensor meme
I switched from G502 to MX master and it's like a whole new world. It's so much more comfortable, fuck that overpriced gaymur garbage.
>I'm the one who made this img. I'm not trying to shill anything, it's just that the Pixart 3366 Sensor is the best sensor currently on the market. At least from my understanding. High tracking speeds are important for pro FPS gamers, especially when doing flick shots. Also the sensor is as close to raw as possible, it's almost identical to the the MLT04 sensor in the Intellimouse. By the way, I absolutely hate the design of the G502 and G303. And I'm currently waiting for Logitech's License on the Pixart 3366 to end, so other companies can start using the same sensor in their products.
>>52139555
Is there a store that sells these? I'd like to try it out and see how comfy it is before buying
Also, nice trips
Why is /g/ so obsessed with aesthetics that it shills
>muh minimalism
over proven capable hardware?
Mice are all subjective. If you're paying more than 40 dollars on a mouse, I guarantee you're not gonna tell the differences with the sensor.. Just use a mouse you like and make sure it isn't actually dog SHIT
>>52138969
Anyone used the old mamba? I wanna say 2012 but it might be 2013.
It's a pretty heavy mouse I think, and definitely the most comfortable I've used.
Unfortunately It's started to do that lift off tracking error shit where when i lift up sometimes it registers as a downwards swipe, really fucking up my server records on CSGO.
also the scroll wheel click doesn't work anymore which sucks too.
Is the current death adder worth owning? Is it heavy as well? I gather the mamba is heavy because it has a battery.
>>52140242
>I'm not trying to shill anything
Have you done that with your mouse? Otherwise that's exactly what you were trying to do, you bullshitter.
Also those proportions are off.
A good while ago (less than a year if I recall) I got a steelseries rival. Thing is pretty fucking alright, but the wheel is starting to get squeaky. I would take it apart and all that shit but destroying mouse feet is not particularly something I like to do.
>>52140807
I through it together in like 15 min, sorry I didn't add the disclaimer "Not to scale"
>>52140961
threw not through, I'm tired...
>>52138969
Fucking click latency lol, you can't even make this shit up. Never seen a group more desperate to justify their purchase than post-MX518 era Loginiggers. Guess we know why every pro player is using the G502 now... Oh wait, none of them are.
>>52139149
This.
>also doesn't mention any of Roccat's mice
>>52138969
I give your guide a 1/10 good trolling attempt OP.
How are you even supposed to test click latency? If it's on USB it could just be your shitty computer.
>>52141006
>what is sponsorship
Nice try shill
>>52141010
>How to test click latency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKGXiY7i1ak
>>52141059
this is about as fantastically unscientific as it could possibly be.
at least with sensor tracking tests it had a setup where it removed a ton of variables, was consistent and would give the same data (within margins of 1% or less) and didn't require you to just smash two mice together.
>>52138969
>pays 2000 dollars in mice per year
>uses them to browse reddit, 4chan and facebook
>if put in a blind test, wouldn't notice the difference between god tier and shit tier mice
Niggers.
>G502
>G303
>god tier
>Click latency
>Heavy mouses
>Lacking ergonomics
>Logishilling
I hate you guys.
>>52139716
I play counter strike, and honestly, the latency they're talking about is not something I've noticed. But hey, if it's there, it's there.
I'm not gonna fanboy it. I love my Mionix mice.
>>52141252
It's because it's a meme. You don't need a new mouse. Mice are not replacement for skill.
>>52140202
Are those dead skin flakes on there?
OP is a faggot edition
>>52141357
There definitely is a difference between a decent mouse and something that you buy on amazon for 10 bucks with 5400dpi and some stupid leds, but then there's also this fucking branch of people looking for a "perfect sensor" and a "perfect click latency" and this and that. Personally I have had a MX518 and a Rival and both feel similar. Some people act like 2 ms on something specific matters. If you don't have some real mad "skillz" you ain't gonna do shit with that anyways.
>>52139555
Ive got this one and an MX Master. I like the ergonomics on this one better, but the scrolling on the MX Master is god tier.
>>52141470
>Can't be the best, if you don't have the best
>>52141357
>>52141470
>>52141559
having a good sensor is the biggest thing, really.
Good sensors don't muck with your inputs and help you become more consistent in your movements and aiming. They don't introduce any smoothing or acceleration which can change how fast/slow your cursor moves across the screen at random, essentially adding variance to how you play.
After I disabled window's smoothing and got a mouse with a good sensor there was a noticeable improvement in how I played in games across the board and even how i navigated my OS.
Having a more consistent movement to your cursor is just straight up better.
>>52141470
Nice arbitrary standard you have there. Why pay the premium at all for an inferior product?
What's retarded are people getting upset over a guide that priorities hardware over subjective things such as looks and ergonomics.
I can't tell if these retards are shilling because of buyer's remorse or what.
>/v/ controller bullshit discussion thread
>on /g/
>>52141469
You fags literally made this guide last thread, stop complaining and change it if you feel its wrong.
Ninox Aurora, flawless sensor, decent size, can upgrade the internals when new version is made (e.g. you can simply buy the new internals and replace them on the cheap instead of buying the new mouse), and only $22 on Amazon.
Got this mouse from a friend. Seems to work pretty well
Corsair makes better mice in the god tier price range than logitech does.
>not putting best claw grip mice CM Spawn/Xornet on the list.
I WILL NOT GIVE UP
>>52138969
add trackballs.
>>52141469
You do realize the G9X is discontinued, right.
>>52138969
>go to the links in the picture
>it literally says the logitech mice in OPs picture are shit on those forums
I think you fucked up OP...
>>52139522
>not wanting that on your desk
Muh MX Master
(I don't game that much)
>>52139796
All the logitechs do have flawless sensors but there are many others that do too. I would also like to see the G100s.
>>52139555
Well fuck, I got a Castor before - sadly too small for my hands (I already have tiny as fuck hands).
Using a Zowie ZA12 right now and it feels okish but I start to regret the moeny spent on it. Can't return it at that point though.
Maybe I'll try the Naos, Mionix made a very good first impression on me with the Castor.
>>52141010
As a Roccat Kone Pure mouse owner, I'm highly disappointed with their pseudo "highest-quality build" product and their lack of warranty.
I've always taken good care of it and it started dying after barely 2 years, which is unacceptable for its price.
no-warranty/10, would never buy from Roccat again.
I've had the same issue with my previous G500, but I was able to get it replaced... and then it died just like the other one.
Is there any decent wired mouse that doesn't have a poor quality cord?
Naos 7000 to The good tier
There is literally no game worth buying a "gamer" mice for
>>52141006
pro players all have dxracer chairs, guess they are the best hurrrrrrdurrrrr
Do you know what a sponsorship is, you fucking retard.
>>52138969
YES HE DID IT
OP DID YOU SAY LAST NIGHT
THIS OLD IMAGE IS SO LAME
I WAS INTO THE THREAD
THSAT IAN MURDOCK WAS KILLED
BY THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
FOR NATIONAL SECURITY PURPOSES
AKA BACKDOORED GNU/LINUX
NICE MOUSE CHIOCES OP
>>52138969
I picked up a 502 for Christmas, I'm not a fan of the scroll wheel (too spongy when in clicky mode) or the "DPI Shift" button (to easy to accidentally press), but the core of the thing is top notch
>>52145513
Those side-buttons come in handy though.
>>52138969
>Intellimouse
>shit trackspeed
>shit latency
>God Tier
>>52138969
>Deathadder
>inferior sensor and click latency
You fucking what mate?
>>52146170
He's gotta score some old skool gamer cred so people will buy a Logitech™ G502™ Proteus™ Core™ Tunable™ Gaming™ Mouse™.
>>52142537
>>52143327
These two. I use an MX Master with my laptop in college and it's the best wireless mouse I've ever used. I also use a trackballs for general OS handling.
The guide assumes that eveyone wants presision and lower latency with every mouse they have. I use the MX Master because of how great a mouse it is and how portable it is. I use my kensington orbit trackball for home use because after working on computers with normal mice all day my joints hurt. It helps get rid of some pain.
>>52138969
I definitely suggest Microsoft sidewinder x8 in the guide. Got it for 5 years, great sensor and very comfy.
How is the Microsoft Intellimouse 4.0 compared to the 3.0? My workplace gives the 4.0 for free.
Idk why final mouse isn't here, its just out of stock not discontinued.
>>52147997
>Logitech™ G502™ Proteus™ Core™ Tunable™ Gaming™ Mouse™
Logitech™ G502™ Proteus™ Core™ Tunable™ Gaming™ Mouse™
>>52138969
G502 is fucking shit.
Yours, A G502 owner with buyers remorse
MX Master and Rival and any Zowie are better
>>52139604
>>Zowie
>Not in God Tier, this chart is trash.
agree
So Ducky made their own mouse called the Ducky Secret. Has the 3310 sensor and looks pretty nice too.
It's got Omron switches, it's made out of PBT plastic, and it's on the heavy side at 120g. What do you think?
I kind of want to replace my G502 with it but that's me just being retarded about RGB lighting.
>>52149033
Hope it's as good as their keyboards
what about the G600?
I bought a deathadder but i dont like the claw grip, since i have big hands the deathadder feels so uncomfortable after using it for long periods of time
>>52149033
>and it's on the heavy side at 120g
I love heavy mice, but a G502 is a bit new to justify a replacement
Is there a good wired travel mouse that can be found on ebay? Something really small and inexpensive?
g502 = g402 without ugly blue thingy
Add that up there too. Had it for a year now and its been working great.
>G502
Shitty feet
>G303
Sensor rattle
>Intellimouse
dpi way too low for multi monitors
Deathadder is the only god tier mouse desu
>>52149966
I had a deathadder for almost year before it started double/triple clicking.
>inb4 razer faggot
they always worked well for me, so i like them. sue me.
>>52152280
being a faggot is part of your freedoms in the US, i wont sue you for it.
>>52138969
My 1$ chinese mouse works just fine
G602 arrived today. Liking it so far. It's fucking huge compared to what I had, but liking the extra, programmable buttons. I thought on-the-fly dpi adjustment was gimmicky bullshit but I immediately became fond of it. Wireless lag is non-existant. Need to get use to it and familiar with the grip but for the most part it's very comfortable.
Did have a problem with DosBox seemingly hating it/the software. Will look into. Kinda pissed it just not plug-n-play-n-forget like all previous M$ mice I have had.
I have the g300s and I don't really care for it
>buying a meme mouse
>>52153546
>not liking memes
I bet you use rubber domes as well faggot
my wife's son is using g400s, it's still fine but he wants to try a new one, rival 300.
is it good?
>>52149966
I've had my 2013 Deathadder for almost 3 years and my middle button is starting to double click. Wtf
>>52138969
>No G400S
The guide is shit tier desu
>cute AF
>flawless sensor
>just the right number of buttons
Fuck your charts.
>still using a mouse
>in 2016
literally no excuse
>>52148509
this desu, although i recently got my zowie so i can't tell if it is of good quality yet. Though ive heard that logitech mice has terrible quality.
>>52156422
>Enjoy having an inferior sensor.
Your sensor is a A3050 variant, SDNS-3059-SS. Check out the review and learn why your sensor is flawed.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1579645/steelseries-rival-100-review-by-ino
Hello, how many of you IMO and WMO faggots actually overclock the polling rate so that the mouse isn't a piece of dog shit? Did you fall for a meme that you don't actually fully understand? Are you that stupid? Did you order a Microsoft mouse from eBay, likely receiving a Chinese knockoff, only to not even overclock the polling rate which is the only thing that makes the mouse something other than garbage? I hope you're running Windows 7 in test mode with the polling rate drivers installed with your Chinese knockoff garbage, or you truly are fucking hopeless.
>>52149855
I have one too. It's a godsent because of all the buttons on the side. Not even for gaming but for programming and general shortcut usage as well.
Is the sensor any good though?
>>52138969
how did you miss naga? Have you ever had a decient mouse?
I returned that cyber bullshit, intellmouse.. i got free with my first compaq computer i bought myself in 2002.
Step up you fucking weak nerd
>falling for the logitech meme
TOP LMAO
>>52139555
>he doesn't claw grip
Got this Chinashit for cheap.
It doesn't feel cheap at all and performs pretty damn well for my needs.
![mionix-avior-8200-gaming-mouse-custom-pc-review-4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yl5spM0.jpg "mionix-avior-8200-gaming-mouse-custom-pc-review-4[1].jpg")
>>52139555
avior friend here
im left handed so cant use the castor ;_;
>>52138969
i use pic related (naga 2014) and its the most awful piece of shit ever. In a year and a half, ive had several asshurting issues that for example whenever i lift it, even for a few milimeters, it just stops working for a few seconds and from time to time when browsing the cursor moves stupidly by itself when I have to click precisly. Several times the cursor only moved on the horizontal axis, awful shit.
>>52152280
That's actually pretty cool lol. Way cooler than the fucking futuristic racecar mice in the guide.
>>52158362
I am right handed but I only use ambidextrous mice. I generally prefer Logitech, but if I get a new mouse it will be the Mionix Avior or the Razer Abyssus since it actually has to be symmetrical to feel right.
>>52139149
I actually use a G303, it works quite nicely for me due to my hand size and grip style, but I can't say how it'll work for the rest of you.
So is Razer Deathadder Chroma good or is a fucking meme mouse?
I'm using the EC-2A atm.
>>52160404
RGB IS A MEME
Hey anons. I've been using my G400 for 3 years but I hate the fucking cable. I have to repair it for like every 3 months and I'm looking for a replacement. What are some good mouses for palm grip right now? Is Naos 7000 good?
>>52154621
just give him your credit card so he can get whatever he wants. cuck
>>52138969
My shit tier mouse works great. Fuck off biggot.
>>52138969
>buying a gaymen mouse
I hope you fags kill yourselves
>>52143327
Same, MX master is great for me. I wouldn't waste my time gaming so much that I'd need a gaming mouse.
>>52138969
>Gaymen mouse
Seriously /g/ is fucked, thanks to the fucking clover dev
>>52158362
>laser
Is it worth trying out a trackball?
Any recommendations? I was thinking the Kensington Orbit because of its reasonable price, but the CST PC-track (while very pricey and mechanical) seem to have a very good reputation. Gaymen isn't necessarily a priority and I already have a nice mouse for those frivolities
>>52138969
>tfw use a second hand logitech gaming mouse that i repaired and then extensively modified to lighten for the past 5 years
Thing must be 8+ years old now.
>>52162597
>>52141469
its this mouse, but with everything external removed, and some of the internals as well removed.
entire thing is now as small and lightweight as possible.
I've played in insomnia 55 LAN this year and can confirm this guide is absolute garbage
itt: memes
>>52138969
>all gaymer shit
>doesn't even know what trackballs are
back to /v/ child
Why cant I find a zowie ec-1a online anywhere?
Did Zowie stop producing them?
best mouse
>>52139664
Is there any difference riding a car with a max limit of 15MPH on a street with a speed limit of 50MPH or 70MPH?
>>52164359
You are retarded
>>52164359
That's a terrible analogy.
>>52139555
Sensor tracking is garbage on that trash
>>52164359
I think it would be more like is there any difference to riding a car with a max speed of 210 mph on a street with a speed limit of 20 mph to a van with a max speed of 80 mph
>>52149033
I really want to get that mouse, but I can't justify replacing my g502.
>>52139555
Nice Trips!
>all these fags hating on the g502 simply because it's always placed in god tier above their shit mouse
Heh. Seriously though, best mouse I've ever owned.
>>52165098
It's so fucking autistic in shape and button layout, also it's heavy as fuck. I just want logitech's license on the Pixart 3366 to expire already....
>>52139946
Yeah! Hi man!
guys,
please recommend me a great silent mouse please? preferably wired.
i have a mouse that clicks annoyingly loud. :(
Been eyeing the Steelseries Rival for a while now. Any of you fa/g/gots got it?
>>52138969
>no g9x
Shitty fucking guide m8
>>52138969
>using anything but the logitech mx or master mx
wow
>>52138969
Logitech Performance MX in god tier ofc
>>52139921
I have a g302, it's the best mouse I've used extensively, versus a razer deathadder, final meme, and some shitty mouse from Amazon. If you can get it cheap then go for it. Also if you have massive hands it might not be the best choice.
>>52138969
Got a func ms-2 and its the best mouse ive ever used. To bad the company got sold out to fnatic
>>52138969
Just get something good already...
>>52156422
this
>>52158833
100€ mouse
stolen Keyboard and Speakers
Why does the g502 and g303 have the best hardware but the shittiest design for a mouse. It's fucking awful
>not still having a g400 from the 2011/2012 mouse guide
>>52139921
Got the g502. Amazing mouse. Best I've ever used.
I bought the G400s a year or so ago and it's served me well, except this weird stuttering problem I get from time to time where I have to pick the mouse up and hit it gently down to clear the problem out. How did I do and what is wrong with this fucking mouse?
Just got a Castor today, I like it but I'm still trying to find the best grip for it. I used a g9x before so my grip became very claw-y, whereas the Castor demands more of a palm.
Moving my index finger to the scroll wheel feels slightly weird to my ring finger, but I'll keep using it and see what happens. I was deciding between the Castor and the Naos btw.
literally the only mouse i am willing to use any more. it's fuck heug, precise, and has enough buttons for anyone who isn't cast spells at other vir/g/ins all fucking day.
>>52164755
this
>>52158313
>chinashit
Do you realize that majority of gaming/performance mouse is made in China?
Plus I'm using this mouse also, it feels great for me
>>52158313
>chinashit
All the best stuff is made in China, Doc.
>>52138969
So I need a new mouse, should I get a G502 or 302, I'm currently using some £5 mouse that came with a shitty keyboard I bought a few years ago, I have a mechanical keyboard now, just not a decent mouse to go with it.
>>52169910
Another question, how do these mice work on linux. I notice the G502 has 11 programmable buttons, is it as easy to use that functionality on linux or not?
>>52170172
You need to program the buttons in Windows and then put it on a device profile to then use on Linux
>>52165781
>wireless
>thumb
Fix plz
>>52171772
After using G602 a few days, noticing an issue with the axes being about 3 degress or so off of what my instinct expects. Could be I'm just very used to ambidextrous/symmetrical. Seem to recall not liking other Logitechs in the past because of that however. Wonder if there's a way to change it.
I am using a Razer Mamba since 3 years straight and I never had a better mouse.
I don't care for wireless, never used it but this is by far the most comfy mouse I ever used.
The mouseclick broke a while ago but that is the only issue I ever had.
Are there other mouse with similar shape/size that doesn't cost a trillion shekels?
is "click latency" some new snake oil meme buzzword
>>52138969
>Gaymen mouse thread
>>52138969
>implying sensor, click latency, etc. matter nearly as much as shape
oh but then you couldn't quantify it an put it on a fancy infograph. play any competitive game that relies on mouse movement. a mouse with a shape that fits the player but has technically worse specs will always win out vs a mouse with "good" specs that feels like shit in your hands.
good mouse with this shape ?
>>52173324
>good mouse shaped like a mouse?
