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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>>51949128
Ok apparently lm-sensors gives me ~43C in linux too when the laptop is idle. What do?
Also Bumblebee works for this machine? Has anyone tested, or should i disable the nvidia gpu altogether from BIOS and save some battery?
sold another one locally for 80% profit
>>51949310
pretty good deal man on the t430.
i think your temps are fine. what is it under max load? run the userbenchmark (like 30 seconds)
http://www.userbenchmark.com/resources/download/UserBenchMark.exe
and see how hot they get. your sensors are probably normal. i wouldn't disable the GPU. just use the nvidia panel to give priority to the iGPU. this way at least you have the graphics capability if you need it.
>>51949310
I see nothing wrong with those temperatures. If your room is about 20-22*C, laptops will always idle at 40+*C
What were you expecting?
>>51949340
nice
I'm jelly
I want to get a x220t or a x230t but they're beyond rare in Portugal
>>51949340
"No, you can't be in our club, Acer."
>>51949378
If you can find an amerifriend willing to help you, the X series will fit in USPS flat rate box and will ship for less than $40. most ebay sellers will consider shipping international even if it says they won't if you bother them and ask, and promise not to be a whiny bitch and return it over the smallest shit.
Today, I was browsing the web on my T430, with no peripherals connected besides the 90w AC adapter, when the screen went black, the fans shut off and the power button blinked at me twice. I sat there in shock for a moment and then tried powering it back on. The power indicator will come on and I'll hear the fan spin up, but within a half second the indicator is back off and the fan loses power. I tried removing the battery and using the AC adapter alone, using the battery alone, removing all power and holding the power button, but none of that has worked.
The configuration is as it came from the factory, except 1) I didn't have the DVD drive installed and 2) I have 2x8GB Crucial RAM sticks in there, for 16GB over the original 4GB. I will try reseating the RAM next to see if that works, once I can get near a screwdriver. I'm currently traveling and this is a bad time for a crash like this to happen :x
The system has the NVIDIA Quadro graphics option and a HD+ screen, if that makes a difference.
>>51949439
Try the 'static discharge' trick:
Unplug the power supply
Remove the battery
Disconnect any cords or express cards
Press the power button 10 times, and on the 10th press hold it for 30 seconds
Would an X230 with an i5, 12GB RAM and a 500 GB HD for $250 be a good investment for an entry level Thinkpad?
I just want a laptop that I can play old games and do various research/projects on.
>>51949439
Do a quick check on the usb ports and make sure none of the pins are touching and that nothing has fallen in the ports.
>>51949467
Did that already.
>>51949476
Examined and doesn't seem to be anything amiss.
>>51949439
>I tried removing the battery and using the AC adapter alone, using the battery alone, removing all power and holding the power button, but none of that has worked.
Leave it completely unplugged from any power source for a while. Like a day. Then when you go to start it up, use only the AC cord, and hold the button for 30 seconds. If this doesnt work it's bad news man.
I hate to tell you this but this happened to my T520 recently and it was a dead mobo. I do not know why, but I removed everything (RAM, HDD, and CPU) and after putting it all back it would boot for a few minutes then die again. You could try this too, maybe it would work for you.
>>51949474
Sounds like an excellent bargain to me.
How do I get bumblebee to work with my t420 with nvidia optimus graphics?
I went through the arch and antergos tutorials, but every time I boot arch (antergos) with nvidia optimus enabled in bios, it boots to a black screen. How do fix this?
>>51949356
>>51949359
I was watching other speccy screenshots from previous threads and some i5s were idling below 35C, that's why I was sceptical, but if you say it's normal I'm a little relieved.
Well now I deleted the windows partition, so can't run the benchmark. If you have an alternative for linux, I could run that.
So I shouldn't bother with bumblebee, just install the proprietary drivers and fiddle with the nvidia panel?
I just picked up an X201 this week. M540, 250GB 850 EVO SSD, 4GB RAM.
Thing seems pretty slick so far. I did a clean install of Windows 7 Pro and now I'm going through the Windows update process.
I'm debating on whether or not to bother jumping up to 8GB of RAM. I won't be doing anything intense on this thing, mostly it'll be a portable word processor and internet machine.
My T510's latch is broken--doesn't want to pop back to the left. I'm guessing I'm missing a spring? Where would I look for that online?
>>51949848
It's so cheap that you might as well.
>>51949310
Let's end this 'do I need to repaste?' meme.
It's just a meme.
It was always a meme.
No response last thread. I need a replacement battery for a second generation X1. What's a reputable site?
Upgraded my T420 to windows 10 and i seem to be missing a few things, Bluetooth has pretty much disappeared and apparently i have a driver missing anyone got any ideas?
>>51950683
Lenovo.
Everything else is a crapshoot.
>>51950827
I've got the Win7 Bluetooth drivers. I can try to upload them for you later. They might work for 10
So i need to replace the top screen cover of my x230. Is it the same as the x220 cover?
>>51950827
I put the Bluetooth daughter board in mine and the SD card driver stopped working on 7. I can only guess it would be an absolute shitshow on 10.
>>51949731
Anyone encounter this issue?
>>51950877
there's no actual battery replacement on their site. do I email someone or something?
>>51952410
fru: 45N1701 or 45N1703
Is the T420's CPU soldered to the motherboard? I'm getting one with the i5 2520m and I have the exact same processor in another, broken laptop. Wondering if I can switch it around if it ever shits the bed. The other one is from a Dell XPS 15 and as far as I can see I can just remove it from its socket.
>>51952705
thanks although I don't have a carbon I'll try to find my exact model # and search it that way
>>51952975
T420, yes
T420s, no
>>51953206
Really? The standard T420 CPU is soldered? Fucking cocks...
>>51954174
Read the post again.
T420s (note the 's') is a different, slimmer model that has a soldered CPU.
>>51954213
The question was as follows
>Is the T420's CPU soldered to the motherboard
The answer was given as
>T420, yes
>T420s, no
So I understood it as the T420s does not have a soldered CPU, and the T420 does. Which sucks cock if tat is the case, cause I just got myself a T420 a week ago and didn't even think to find out whether the CPU was soldered in or not.
>>51954255
T420 = not soldered
T420s = soldered
You can even dump a quad-core processor in the T420 if you don't mind temperatures up to 95c.
>>51954300
High temps.. Extra power... Fuck... I like my notblazinghot computer though...
>>51954308
I've read forum posts of people putting a i7-2720QM in a T420, idle temperatures seem fine until you stress all cores to 100% usage, reaches temps in the range of 90 degrees celcius, even with proper thermal paste. It's really not made for the higher TDPs of quad-core CPUs.
>>51954423
That's hot as shit. When does throttling kick in?
>>51954720
at 100 degrees unless set lower by user.
>>51954423
My 2720qm was hot even in my T520.
Is the the x230t worth it over the x220t?
My Thinkpad has finally arrived and it smells like an ashtray. I disassembled some parts and scrubbed them with Isopropyl, but this didn't help at all. Should I become a smoker now or will it fade over time?
>>51949217
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up. I got an X201 via ebay on your advice. it's a good laptop except for one crippling flaw: the screen is awful and causes eye strain. After 45 minutes of use your eyes start to hurt. I've tried adjusting brightness, no effect. Other laptops and monitors don't cause this. It has this weird pulsating glow so the screen must be shitty. I'm apprehensive to buy another ThinkPad (although I will need a new laptop soon) because of this. Any advice? Is this common with other models?
>>51955057
My T420 has no such issue. What screen type is your box?
>>51955028
Cigarette smell is hard to get rid of. Really hard. Point a fan at it and leave it there for a few days. Won't remove all the smell, but might get rid of some of it
>>51955144
A matte screen? I'm not sure what you mean by this, it's an X201, model 3680-HG6.
>>51955175
TN? IPS? Did it even have IPS as an option, actually?
>>51955200
I think it's TN. No option for IPS since I got it off ebay. Wasn't even aware of this at the time.
>>51949731
>>51952304
Nevermind. For some reason, it boots with 0% brightness enabled.
Fucking Weird indeed.
>>51955200
Can you tell me what difference this makes?
>>51955478
TN panels tend to be crap. I'm not sure if they cause more eye strain than IPS, but they do tend to be crap. Matte screens are glorious though.
post pics / videos of your Thinkpads
>>51955200
The original X201 did have an option for an IPS.
>>51955478
Color quality and better visibility from different angles. With my x200s and t430, I feel as though I have to adjust the angle of the screen more often than I feel comfortable. With an IPS panel, this wouldn't be the case.
Anyone have any clue what this could be? Did the T420 ever have a 3G radio?
>>51956134
My t430 sure does. At least it has a SIM slot.
>>51956148
Where is the SIM slot located on your machine?
>>51956179
Behind the battery.
>>51956134
download a better OS and runlscpi -nn
>>51949731
>>51952304
Nvm, brightness was at 0%, actually, it boots always at 0%
Weird.
>>51949848
I picked up an X201 recently. Just a heads up that you can't just stick random rams in there and expect it to work, apparently these fuckers are picky.
Mine wouldn't boot with the 2x4G random samsung sticks I picked up so I changed them back to the 2x2G it came with. Make sure wherever you buy the ram from has a good return policy. ktgee has some info.
>>51956243
That's weird, but I've heard my friends complain about the same thing with optimus. FWIW, it's best to run your optimus card in a separate X server. Less fuckery, stuff mostly works.
>>51956299
Your mobo's memory controller might be on it's last legs, my x200 just let go with the same symptoms. Get stuffed m80.
I recently purchased a T420 and although it's wonderful for browsing and shit like that, but I'm getting some occasional stuttering whenever I play anything multiplayer.
I'm going from like respectable FPS to a really quick drop, could it be the heats I'm seeing while on the discrete card?
>>51956365
It could be the CPU downclocking. I try and force my fan to run at 7000RPM when playing games.
In linux 'tis as easy as
echo "level ungaged" >> /proc/acpi/ibm/fan
Don't know what you have to do to achieve that on windows, but I'm sure there's a way.
>>51956314
I don't think so m8
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Unofficial_maximum_memory_specs
Seems to be a rather commonly known issue when you're trying to go beyond what the stated maximum limits are. I've heard it's recommended to try to match speed, density, CAS latency as close as possible so not too surprised that jamming low voltage PC-12800 into slots designed for PC-8500 didn't fly. I have other machines that are less picky so the ram didn't go to waste.
Uses for R40? (Pentium 4 2.66ghz, 512mb ram)
Currently installing XP.
>>51956513
PC-128000 can be happily downclocked to PC-8500, but rather than arguing, I invite you to obtain seemingly compatible memory modules and running memtest86 three times over.
I've just destroyed my keyboard, everything is lost.
Are these good temps?
>>51956993
>proprietary cuckware
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0 = 32 C
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1 = 25 C
Can the x220t run Starbound?
Halp, I think I am falling for the ultrabook meme…
So backstory:
>be me
>be always using ultraportables, way before ultrabook even was a word
>currently on X200
>keyboard fucked
>screen really dark
>battery on about 3h
>1 week of conference, carrying around that fucker every full day + other shit
>get jelly at all those people with MBA's and RMBP's
>go past the MS store
>see surface book
>cream my jeans
>realize that a fully kit out version will cost $2000 (same with the RMBP's)
>realize that said $2000 will be completely sealed, and even a borked battery or a slight drop will mean that I can throw away $2000
>I_dont_think_so.jpg
so what are my light, long battery life and robust/serviceable options?
Problem is, thanks to stupid 16:9, I cant be staying on 12". My X200 (16:10) is already a huge step down from my X61 (4:3), and also it's vetical pixels (800) just dont really cut it anymore. So it must be 14" with somewhat small bezels (back in my days, all the bezels where small…).
What about the X1? The ones with the fucked up keyboard and clit buttons are really cheap currently, but I am afraid that this will be too fucked up, and wont work with linux.
What about HP's or Dulls offerings in this size rangE?
x230 with x220 classic keyboard swap running Xubuntu here
I figured out how to remap my keys to retain PgUp, PgDn, and DEL. What you've got to do is go edit the xkb keymappings here:sudo mousepad /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/pc
from here, go make your changes so it looks like this in the next to last section:key <INS> { [ Page_Down ] };
key <HOME> { [ Delete ] };
key <PGUP> { [ Prior ] };
key <DELE> { [ Page_Up ] };
key <END> { [ End ] };
key <PGDN> { [ Next ] };
There was an Ubuntu forum guide to do this already but the tricky part to figure out was what the Page_Up and Page_Down syntax was. I broke my keyboard and had to boot into recovery twice.
In addition to this, you'll need to go delete or backup the .xkm file in /var/lib/xkb/ (you need to go look at what the name is) so it will rebuild with your changes. Personally, I kept mine and am glad I did when I JUSTed my whole keyboard, so:ls /var/lib/xkb
sudo mv /var/lib/xkb/server-LOLWHATEVERYOURSIS.xkm /var/lib/xkb/server-LOLWHATEVERYOURSIS.bkp
Now restart xorg or reboot. It ain't SharpKeys, but I hope this saves somebody else the time/hassle.
>>51957321
>x230 with x220 classic keyboard swap running Xubuntu here
How?
Pics please!
>>51957385
They're compatible. Same for t430/t420. You can even get unfucked clit-mouse buttons for the t440/x240.
>>51957385
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
There are some drawbacks as some keys simply won't function.
>>51957619
how do you make that thingy at the top right corner of the screen?
>>51957664
archey
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/850
>>51957253
Replace battery, get 9 hours of battery life.
Yoou can look at a t440s, they're pretty slim. Or the t450s.
>>51957773
>Replace battery, get 9 hours of battery life.
not on an X200. 7h max.
Which would be fine, but a new battery costs money.
And if I keep that thing for longer, I would also have to replace the keyboard and get a SSD.
And probably soon, I have to get a new screen.
So all in all, I would invest at least $400 in a machine that is worth $200 maximum.
Plus, while the X200 certainly is not a bad machine, its just not that great. My X61 was much better, but I just cant work with only 4GB of Ram anymore. Probably going to soon need 16…
>t440s, they're pretty slim. Or the t450s.
But they have fuckhuge bezels. I dont want a 14" 16:9 screen in a 15" 16:10 lid.
>>51957889
>But they have fuckhuge bezels
then go buy a dell xps 13/15
it's a piece of shit though ;)
>>51958019
nope.
That keyboard is just almost as bad as that stupid one-port macbook ones.
Also, they still have that stupid 16:9 screen in a 16:10 lid issue. That triggers me so much. 3 out of 4 sides finally have a nice bezel again, but just because of "fuck you!! lol!" they decided to have a giant bezel at the bottom.
>>51949439
Sounds like you got shit on the heats>>51949474
ink and fans fa.m
>>51949731
Don't antergos
>>51955057
Backlight might actually be failing.
You can maybe replace the screen with one of the AFFS panels that work on the X200, but then you also need to track down an X200 screen cable and lid assembly because you need the CCFL inverter.
>>51957889
60 (genuine battery) + 30 (keyboard) + 40 (128gb SSD) + 30/60 (glossy/matte Boe Hydis LCD panel) = only $160 or $190.
Which doesn't seem that bad to me but I would kind of balk at doing another LCD panel swap in these using the glossy panels, cutting off the digitizer takes forever with an X-acto knife. And of course you're still left with a machine that can't do 2 HD YouTube videos at once.
Hello /g/, I have two T400s with quite bad hinges. I looked up to see if there was any way to tighten them and saw everyone linking to the maintenance manual. Well, I took the entire LCD assembly apart and didn't see a single place to manually tighten the hinge itself. Am I just meant to buy a new set of hinges?
>>51958973
isnt it simply some screws you can access from the outside?
But after some time, they will be fucked beyond repair. but shouldnt happen that fast. have they been mistreated?
okay so, 129127U is my product ID #. I cannot for the life of me find a battery replacement.
>>51959088
The second laptop has been pretty beaten up and has the worst hinge. However, the first one had a pretty nice hinge when I received it, I babied it the best I could and hinge has quite a bit (although not as much as the second) of play.
>>51959112
The X1's main battery is not designed to be easily accessible by standard means - needs a few screws undone. If you haven't already, just look up ChinkPad [sic] X1 battery (not X1 Carbon) and hope for the best, ensuring it's not the slice you're getting
Or you can call up lenovo and pay out the ass
>>51959159
Ive found some sellers in the Uk, but i was hoping i could get something out of NA looks like im going to be paying around 150$. I cant find the actual part # of the battery is what my issue is.
Anyone have any experience with 9cell chink batteries for the x230? Are they worth it, any reliable eBay seller?
>>51959312
dank
>>51959341
x230 only charges genuine lelnovo batteries
>>51958074
>That keyboard is just almost as bad as that stupid one-port macbook ones.
even worse, they get shiny just after weeks of use haha not to mention the double space bar issue
>>51959424
> double spacebar issue
not just that, theirs ghosting as-well ;-;
Is newegg a ripoff?
>>51956821
Gore pics please
>>51957156
I'd be surprised if it couldn't, Starbound isn't exactly Crysis
>>51959390
Got any source on this? My T410 accepts chink batteries just fine. Unless Lenove added some sort of weird chip (like in ink cartridges) it should accept and charge any battery. Also the thinkwiki doesn't mention anything about it.
>>51959390
>>51960866
Never mind, I found a source myself. Thanks for the heads up anon!
I found a genuine brand new 9 cell for 90 euro's in a Dutch store so thats not too bad I guess. And its a reputable seller (bought lots of stuff from it) so if it's not genuine after all I can just return it.
Thanks again.
I got mSATA SSD for my T420, not for speed but because I'm paranoid that having the moving parts in HDD will fail me at my time of need.
Anyway how do I copy OS from the HDD to the mSATA SSD?
>go christmas shopping
>decide to get lunch
>end up at starbucks
>be that one fag with a T520 at starbucks
>>51961034
Clonezilla should be able to do it
>>51961421
>Clonezilla
Never used it before, will it work OOTB?
No need to change stuff in fstab?
>>51961442
I've never actually used it myself, so I'm not sure. From what I've heard about it, it should work ootb though.
>>51957156
just tried it, no problems at all
how can I disable audio output on ultrabase in windows? (so I can have shit plugged in but it will be ignored and audio will play thru built-in speakers)
Any fellow ausfags itt? Is ~$250 a good price for a T420? This seems to be the average price I'm seeing but I wanna make sure I'm not getting swindled regardless.
>>51961584
That's not bad. I paid USD$220 for mine
>>51961584
Depends on the configuration, especially the screen. Both available options suck (TN with horrid viewing angles) on the T420, but at least get the higher-resolution one (1600x900).
>>51962403
That's about AUD$306 at present, so I guess I'm happy with forking out $280 for one in good condition that I've found.
And free postage, no less.
>>51959119
seconded
Is Lenovo Thinkpad Edge considered a thinkpad or should I fuck off with my consumer laptop ?
Does anyone have any stickers or "custom" stuff on their Thinkpad?
If so, post it.
What's a good p'lace to get some?
>>51962836
Did you bother reading the OP?
>>51962846
Did you ?
>>51954794
you get a shit keyboard and nothing extra except for "better" graphics and native usb3. go with the 220
>>51962836
no
fuck off with your consumer garbage
so guys, i need a somewhat cheap laptop as a replacement for my shitbook.
so far, i've narrowed it down to the t420 and the x220, but i'm not sure that i can deal with the low resolution display of the x220
any input that could help me make an informed decision?
>>51963074
1366x768 is acceptable on sub 13" screens
do you want more power and more bulk or less power and less bulk
>>51962867
Yeah, your question was answered on the 3rd and 4th lines.
>>51963113
well, my problem is that my laptop still has to be somewhat powerful, but it's noit im gonna be playing games on my laptop, thats what i have my dekstop for.
the x220 im considering has a 2,7 i7, and 8 gb ram. like, that porbably has all the power that i'll ever need.
with the x220, do you get a "worse" typing experience than with the t420 because of the smaller keyboard?
>>51963359
unless you have ginormous hamhands it shouldn't be a problem
>>51963074
>i'm not sure that i can deal with the low resolution display of the x220
Don't know about the X220 but the screen in my T420 is utter shit.
I much rather have less resolution but better quality.
>>51962474
I'd get it. That isn't a bad price at all
>>51963359
All keyboards are identical and swappable across all T/W/X --10 and --20 generations. The X220 does however feel less sturdy to type on compared to bigger models, particularly in the lower-left corner of the keyboard. It can apparently be mitigated by putting something in the Expresscard slot, but it is definitely noticeable if you don't.
How does the X220i differ from the regular X220? Can I put the screen cover and lid from X220i on an X220?
>>51964190
i models are just lower specced. Everything will swap over fine.
>>51964259
Thanks!
Afternoon lads.
>>51957889
The X1C3 doesn't have a large bezel, its about as thin as the X300.
But like its not anything close to 4:3 T6x and before.
>>51958019
Is it really shitty? It looked like a good machine, but maybe its just more consumer crap than I thought.
>>51957253
Hey there X1C3 fag here, well I got the X1C2 as well for testing...
Performance wise... this thing is probably as good as an X220, maybe even less stellar.
Those FN/Media keys wont work on Linux from the X1C2.
Right now I am using Linux Mint.
>parrot linux worked fine except it wouldn't shut down
>chakra didn't let me finish the instal
>deepin kept on disconnecting from wifi and prompt for my password each time, 10s to 40s invervals
>kubuntu had that keyring shit that bugged me, screen was buggy when minimizing/closing windows
>black lab had LCD issues
>Elementary OS is about not minimizing windows apparently, fuck that
I seem to lose my lid magnet on my machine when upgrading the SSD.
I know a refurb unit is like $900 w/ 256GB SSD and UHD display, I paid that much two months ago but with a 128GB SSD...
>>51964376
Would you say that, performance wise, the x220 (or x230) is better than the Carbons?
>>51964370
afternoon luther.
I did actually just buy a t420. No OS so I'm going to have to put a distro onto it as soon as I get it. Going balls deep into this, and I'm a complete faggot so I don't know what I'm doing. Should be fun. Makes me feel alive and all that jazz.
>>51956565
I used my T30 for shitposting and A31p for music.
Could always buy car diagnosis software/hardware and use dem serial ports to connect to it.
>>51956821
Bathe it in soapy water, rinse and reuse it after the second day
Or third day if you are religious.
>>51955057
Is like the LCD dim? I haven't had an X201, but had various X-Series. The WXGA+ X200 had a somewhat dim screen, it was odd indeed.
I wouldn't put it past you if you don''t want to get another ThinkPad.
>>51950050
You might be better off getting a palmrest.
>>51964430
Yup.
>live in filth and play League of Legends
>play it on most of my ThinkPads so I can 'test them'
>T430 w/ intel HD played it smoothly just like my W700ds
>X1C3 plays it with constant stutter and big frame skipping
>feels like it played equal or worse than my X61T
I hadn't used an X220, but its performance is comparable to a T420 which I've used two in the past, those are good.
I don't know how botched the 's' ThinkPads are, T430s seemed pretty robust when it came to performance
Also the main reason why I didn't use them long enough/stress test them is because I'm a laptop flipper, so they are solds.
>>51964518
What do you think is the best Thinkpad, all things considered?
Also, a new carbon being outplayed by a four or five year old laptop is shameful.
Whats about the retro thinkpad - are there any news about it ?
And will it even come out ?
>>51964555
Eh, I really think its because of the fan mainly, maybe the ultrabook CPU.
The S230 was absolute crap with its 1.8GHz processor, it stuttered moving the mouse when I upgraded to Windows 10.
Even with Windows 8.1, it performed worse than the Chromebook Pixel.
I haven't had chance to play with any T/W5xx series after the W500.
For all general purposes, the T430 is probably my best bet, X220 IPS if you need the 6 row keyboard, T420 if its 'too small screen'
>X300 best keyboard feel since the C2D era
>A31p best speakers for a ThinkPad
>14" 4:3 T60 most robust design
By the way, if you guys come across any PowerPC/800 series ThinkPads, they are worth $200+ turning on at the moment.
Well except for that one 820 that sold for $50...
>>51964518
>dat narrow CPU
lewd
Just found a Lenovo Laptop ThinkPad Edge E431 Intel Core i7 3632QM (2.20 GHz) 8 GB Memory 500 GB HDD Intel HD Graphics 4000 14.0" Windows 8.1 64-bit
$250.
Is it worth it?
is there a sticky for egpu setups?
anybody running a egpu on their dankpad?
>>51964370
Fucking hell is this from the new season?
Is it worth getting back into Luther?
>>51965314
Given I sold my T430 for less then that, and the E series was sold at a far cheaper price.
No.
>>51965342
Not the guy but if you live in europe where prices are retarded 250 is a steal for that notebook.
I have decided to get the X220, because of it's size.
The only thing I'm concerned with is only one hard drive. I have a HDD bay in my W510, and SSD inside.
What are my options in terms of storage. just one drive?
>>51965796
You can get an mSATA SSD alongside the 7mm SATA bay, but it'll only run at SATA II speeds while the main bay is SATA III. I think you can get an extra caddy with a docking station too.
Is a Carbon X1 okay?
Fuck, what SSD's are you guys using? I was going to buy a Crucial BX200 but it seems to have really inconsistent reviews.
>>51965827
I need the laptop to take to uni, so I won't need a docking station.
I can manage with just one SSD and having all other files at home or in Dropbox. It would just be nice to have a HDD with less important files too.
>>51965840
They are sold for a pretty penny because of the flagship status for ThinkPads.
In terms of build quality I liked the Chromebook Pixel more, maybe its because 'muh aluminum' the display ratio is awesome although it is glossy, typing did feel a lot better.
But an X1C has a trackpoint which I cannot go without, sometimes the touchpad bothers me, my palms will touch the touchpad and move the mouse
Im pretty sure I disabled touchpad on bios and it still works lol
X1C2 has the screwed up keyboard layout, I laugh when I use it.
HD+ panel isn't too great, go IPS if its available, its mainly the reason why I am using this damn thing, if not, I'd use my X300 though it is sluggish for almost all tasks now.
Muh battery life, I get about 8 hours of use in linux, at least its what it seems to be.
>>51965880
One of my 2 Adata SSDs are dying I think, my W700ds doesn't want to boot up, perhaps a bad update on Linux?
Patriot Pyro on my X61T working good
Intel SSD on my brother's desktop.
>>51965892
Just how much shit do you need to carry?
I have a 250GB SSD and only recently went under 100GB free space, mostly because I had some vacation time and decided to watch some torrented movies.
>>51965880
Mx100 in my t410 samsung 850evo in my x230.
The 850evo is faster and much more power efficient at the moment. The mx100 was good value when I bought it but is outdated now, mx200 is supposedly decent. The bx series are okay if you want cheap and reasonably fast storage, random writes are quite bad though (in terms of speed).
I'd get a 850evo atm it barely costs more and is way more energy efficient than most drives. The 256GB is the sweet spot efficiency wise (the more capacity the higher the power Usage).
>>51965956
Is the Chromebook Pixel good enough for a full-featured laptop? I'm looking for something that I can do proper dev work on (so the keyboard/screen matters) on the go. I like my X220, but it's little on the bulky side and the screen's too small for my liking now.
>>51965979
some of the optical micrographs for my project are 5MB each, but I do carry them on a USB.
You are correct, I only need an SSD for fast booting and a few files at a time. Thanks bro.
>>51965996
>>51965956
I'll probably get the evo, since it seems like the safer purchase. Thanks.
>>51966005
I wouldn't say so.
I didn't do the linux install on that machine, I just used ChromeOS for some shitposting and wordpress.
I don't know how well it performs in a different OS.
That machine does get hot, its cooling is retarded, the X1C has it beat on that at least.
Also it does have surprisingly good speakers for a laptop. Tinny but loud.
You might be able to get away with the i7 64GB model, I had a 16GB unit from 2013.
Dunno how you feel about carrying your work on an SD card, I'd recommend buying of of those tiny USBs.
Still I don't know how it supports Linux, I was not interested in doing that at the time.
>thinking about buying dankpad.com domain
About to buy a t(imebomb)61 with shitvidia grafix for $50USD. The keyboard is great and the 4:3 screen is gorgeous and I'm looking forward to using it as a fuckaround hobby device, but in the end I know it'll die and it's a waste of money. Convince me not to?
>>51965635
It isn't a steal you retards. I live in Europe and I know that's not a good price.
Stop having lower standards.
>>51966278
$250 is the price of that processor alone. Even if he just scrapped it for parts he could profit.
>>51966278
In Holland you can't even get an x230 for less than 300 dollar in decent shape. If you look on ebay you might find a 430 for 200 dollars if you are lucky and win an auction (buy now is usually 300 or more) and even then you still have to add shipping costs.
So yes, you might find one cheap but it is more of an exception than rule. I watch local advertising website every other day and ebay as well.
>>51966649
>In Holland
Reporting in.
I'm looking for a T420 and the best deal I can see right now is 250 euros for a non-optimus T420 with the 1600x900 screen but I have no idea what the condition of the device is, although the seller offers three months of warranty on the thing.
They have a couple of them available, I'll just shoot a message on the quality of the hardware, I really don't want dead pixels and other bullshit for the premium they cost.
>>51966649
I got a x230 from Sweden like new with a 9-cell for 230€ (plus 20€ shipping).
If you guys stop buying everything at high prices, resellers will be forced to sell cheaper. That exception can become the rule.
>>51966752
The problem is that a lot of companies lease thinkpads in holland so the companies leasing them try to sell them off after a few years. It is near impossible to find thinkpads in regular shops here, nearly everything is consumer grade shit. Schools mostly give out hp elitebooks to students and apple has a very high share on the more expensive laptop. Holland fucking sucks in that regard.
I bought mine really of an enthousiast forum though.
>>51966882
Same here (Portugal). That's why I bought from Sweden. Got it from Ebay, no less.
You just have to search.
Whats the failure rates on used ThinkPads?
Thinking of buying a used x201 (i5,4GB,500GB,4h bat) as a poorfag for uni. I can't buy more if it fails on me, also I have at least more 2,5 years until I finish uni.
Any input would be very welcome
>>51967996
>>51967996
Why is this shit leaking to /g/?
>>51967996
Just buy an mac with apple care
We don't want you here.
>>51959119
The screws to tighten the hinges are fairly obvious if they are there. They might not have included them on the "s" model of the t400. Buy some replacement hinges, its a straight-forward repair. Maybe an hour if you're new or taking your time.
What are decent low-workload temps for an X201 with the 540M? Speccy is telling me that my CPU is sitting in the upper 50s.
E540 user here
PLEASE DO NOT buy the new series shitpads
Massive mistake, massive regret
Honestly you're better off buying a pile of shit from 1996
>>51968562
From what I looked up and observed it seems as if there is no way to manually tighten the hinge. I have ordered two new pairs now. Thanks!
>>51968628
Just be careful with the screen bezel, they're tough to get out sometimes, but you can pull too hard on it. A guitar pick or one of those oblong pry tools they give you with iphone repair kits works good.
>>51968619
>>51967996
Get a chromebook or a mac
>>51968675
>real think pad experience
I don't care about this fucking experience, I just want something that works
My old laptop was a thousand fucking times better than this shite
>>51968708
"Real thinkpad experience" is ironical. T, W and X series are the business class lines. L, E, Yoga, and everything else is consumer-tier garbage with HP build quality.
>>51968693
Why not a ThinkPad?
>>51968619
>>51968708
>I'm a nigger and I bought a cheap laptop I shouldn't have bought because I'm a nigger
You deserve to be lynched you fucking nigger faggot. What part about x,t,w series think pads only don't you understand?
>>51968843
>cheap laptop
I spent £600/$900, wasn't really cheap
and customised from the lenovo website
I knew about /g/ but I sure as fuck didn't know about this general before I bought it
>>51968838
I hate frog-posters.
>>51968858
Return it or sell it on ebay and use the profits to buy a decked out w520.
>>51968858
Yes it's a cheap laptop and you oberpayed for it too.
You're a nigger for 3 distinct reasons:
>buying a non thinkpad
>customizing online
>buying new
I hope you learn you're lesson and you use this experience to improve on your niggerism
>>51968973
>buying a non thinkpad
nigger it says thinkpad right on the thing
>>51968994
After LELnovo bought the thinkpad line, they created the consumer-grade lines E, L, and Yoga. Purists claim, rightfully so, that these aren't "real" thinkpads, but an attempt by Lenovo to cash out on the brand recognition of Thinkpad.
>>51968994
Now you're up to 5 distinct reasons on why you're a nigger
>being stupid
>not doing basic research on your purchases and instead impulse/brand buying like a nigger
Related question: Is it a horrible idea to buy a X1 Carbon now? Or should I wait 1-2 months for the next gen?
I'm asking cause there're deals that end tomorrow.
Where is a good place to get sub £200 Thinkpads in the UK?
Anyone else's Photoshop CC laggy on T420 with HD3000? I'm not used to this.. I had a cheap asus amd apu shit-top before and it could run Photoshop better.
>>51969664
I've got CS5 but I haven't had any problems with it. What specs is it?
Anyone here running OpenBSD on an X60?
I just installed it on a Core Duo X60 I had laying around, installation went fine, everything seems to work, but it randomly just hangs on me, especially if I close or otherwise move around the xterm window that starts up by default with fvwm.
It's driving me fucking nuts, anyone have an idea of what I can do?
Best temperature checker for Windows 7?
>>51969690
2520M, 4GB, 1600 x 900
Win 10.
After posting, I realized it may be due to the pirated copy of PS being shit, not having some later added fixes?
Basically I have limited zoom functionality (no scrubby zoom) because I have to run on the lowest settings in the GPU section.
>>51969745
4 GB seems pretty low for running stuff like Photoshop. Mine's got 6 GB of RAM. I have Nvidia graphics but they're not a large difference in terms of performance.
>>51969797
Thanks, but I dont't think memory is a problem. I kept a close look on memory usage and it's not nearly full when editing images. I think I'll try some of the newer patches for CC.
Looking for the absolute and objectively best FHD display available for the W520/W530 (I assume they're compatible?)
Where in UK can I buy one without being absolutely cucked over by a 'compatible' panel?
I know of the AUO B156HW01 v4 and AUO B156HW01 v7. Are there any alternatives to the AUO panels which are equally as good, if not better?
>>51968708
Lol, Nigga you dumb
![IMG_1094[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pjJblpi.jpg "IMG_1094[1].jpg")
>>51968708
Your tears are beautiful, please buy an X100e for a proper ThinkPad Experience
>>51968994
>not knowing the meme
so funny you bought the worst laptop Lenovo ever made.
>>51969535
Hard to say, because we don't know the features the new one will add.
I think I posted enough info about the X1C3 this thread.
Get it if you want a 'deal' or wait if you want to get an equal machine for $1400+
>>51969733
arguably tpfancontrol should show temps
Got a T520 for $200 on ebay, expecting it in two days.
Nvidia NVS 1GB, i5-2520M 2.5GHz/6GB/250GB.
All perfect condition, new battery, ac adapter.
Did....did I do good?
>>51971094
Id say you did average. My t420 arrives tomorrow. Its got the i5-2520m with integrated gfx with an ssd and 4 gigs of ram. I also coped a newish docking station. Came with the key and everything, not a scratch on it. Only 210 for both.
>>51965880
My T420 has a 256Gb MX100 and my workstation has a 500Gb MX200, both work well.
>>51971094
That seems like a pretty great price, hopefully it doesn't have the 768p screen.
>>51949217
Is this a good price, /g/?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T400-14-1-Notebook-Windows-7-Home-4GB-Intel-Core-2-Duo-Webcam-/331527410195?hash=item4d3092d213:g:t-AAAOSweW5VKKXp
>>51971094
Lucky bastard.
Today in the UK I paid 140 for a X220 without a charger!
are thinkpads good for music production? like ableton and shit
>>51971699
It's a computer. It will be the same as any other computer at that power. Given you will probably be using an external sound card.
Don't fall for the meme
Should I buy a chinese or genuine 8 cell battery for my x61t? What are the differences in battery life?
Best way to keep temps down?
Whenever I do some light gaming, my temps skyrocket on my T420 and I get some stuttering as a result.
>>51972527
Same issue here. Repasting thermal paste and cleaning out all the dust helped bring temps to a solid 97°C on 2.5GHz on all cores at full load on the 2520m and 4200m gpu.
>>51972687
Fuck, I was hoping I wouldn't have to repaste this thing.
Thanks though, glad to hear I'm not the only one.
Just bought a Dell Latitude 3540
Pic related for $240. Did I spend way too much? I can still return it.
>>51950827
install win 7/8
>>51972896
sorry wrong pic
>>51954423
better than the 2011 MBP where the cpu would throttle to 800mhz easily
also 90c isnt too bad considering that its probably running at like 3.4ghz
How the fuck do I use thinkpad fan control on Windows?
I understand manual, but what about BIOS and smart mode?
Any literature for retards like me?
>>51954794
Much better igpu and usb 3 (which is huge)
only downside is that the keyboard layout is shit
>>51972527
>>51972687
kill turbo boost
good drop in temps with no noticeable performance loss
>>51957889
the memes are real
>>51964713
Wait, I have an X220 and Im outgrowing the screensize/specs. I thought an X1C would be a good upgrade but I guess youre saying its not?
Whats good then?
>>51965979
not him, but I have only 65 gigs free on one partition, and 11 on my windows partition
>>51973081
How do I accomplish this?
T60fag here, with the T2400 Centrino Duo.
It's basically a stocker. What kind of upgrades can I perform safely on the thing? Will the chipset support newer and hotter GPUs?
>>51973378
A Dell XPS or MacBook Pro if you're looking for new.
The new thinkpads suck ass.
>>51972909
Depends on the country. In USA, for that price, an i3, 4 gigs, and 1366x768 is just awful, personally I'd find it unusable.
For example a very quick ebay search finds me a good condition HP EliteBook 8560p with an i5-2520m, 1600 x 900, 8 gigs of ram, dedicated AMD 6470M graphics, and a 256 gig SSD for the exact same price.
Spent the day revisiting the t61p and x200. Using gnome classic on both. Both machines are now smoother and just as fast as my haswell thinkpad yoga 14
Also about the thinkpad yoga: the trackpoint is flat as fuck and much less comfortable and smooth than my old thinkpads. In fact the x200 is straight up objectively more enjoyable to use for browsing the Internet and shit. How can I fix this? Where can I get an old type thick trackpoint that will fit the smaller size of the newer devices?
I've been cleaning my thinkpads with a damp rag soaked with 50% rubbing alcohol.
Does this destroy the finish in the long term?
Because the short term results are great, it disinfects and de-grimes the keyboard in 1 step.
>>51973424
in windows go to power options, change advanced power settings, and set max CPU usage to 99%. it will disallow turbo boost.
>>51973870
nah youre fine
Is it a bad idea to get a new t540p? I like thinkpads, but I want a new laptop with good specs.
>>51973893
Thank you
>>51971671
Wow, they put down 4GB RAM in their description, but under search terms they put 8GB RAM...
Thats fucking overpriced then, it best come with a warranty for that price, and I'd expect a battery with less than 40 cycles and at least 90% Wh life from normal capacity
>>51973917
Yeah because the *40 series aren't new. They're two years old
Get something *50 or *60 now that they're coming out
Wait for the p50s or the T560
>>51973435
Nice meme
The t450s is God tier and the 2016 catalog is fucking incredible, especially the new carbon and workstation options
>>51973435
new XPS's are shit.
>>51973430
You could get an ATI V5250 but you will need to mobo swap.
I think an Intel T7600 is your best bet.
Then you could do a W500 heatsink swap, you'll be limited to 3GB RAM though, regardless of what you read the chipset and see from datasheets.
>>51973984
Thanks anon; I'll wait until those come out to decide.
>>51974000
please elaborate on carbon
>>51974280
>>51973018
I'm actually typing on one right now and this is actually pretty nice. I have a T420 that I have for work and I can say that the keyboard on this one has a more tactile feeling compared to the mushy keyboard on the T420.
Is USD260 a good price for a x220 with 160 gig ssd?
>>51975046
seems average for us ebay.
>>51975099
Is jewegg alright? I'm new to this whole buying used laptops online thing
>>51975155
I've had 0 experience buying a ThinkPad from NewEgg but I would imagine as long as the return policy is decent. [ie a certain number of days to evaluate and you don't have to pay shipping to return for any reason]. Then the risk is relatively low. these things hold up pretty well over time as my company uses them for our computers.
>>51975189
Thanks I just want a laptop for watching twitch and shitposting but I don't want to open up a package and find a broken piece of shit inside
Can't decide which to buy.
x220 vs x220t
Which is better and why?
When upgrading the RAM on a x220, the specs sheet says max ram is 8GB, how are people using 16 GB, custom BIOS update?
>>51975934
stock bios
lots of manufactures say that it's 8 gigs max, but all sandy bridge cpus support 8 gigs per slot
>>51975274
x220t battery is worse and you have one potentially wobbly hinge, but you're guaranteed an IPS panel.
If you're not going to legitimately use the touch panel (get the pen-enabled one or don't bother), then just get a normal x220.
>>51955028
AFAIK ozone machine is the only way to remove cigarette smell.
V effective though, I got a used couch that reeked for free, rented an ozone machine for 24 hours for ~$50, the couch had zero odor afterward.
You could check with an equipment renter- maybe since your stinky item is portable, maybe you can cut some kind of deal.
Hotels usually have the machine as well, if you happen to travel with the thing. A good hotel might try to accommodate.
>>51963074
Use a tiling WM with virtual desktops.
Alright, two questions:
For those of you that have a Thinkpad X220 or something of similar size what sleeve/case do you guys prefer? (I'll eventually get a 9-cell so It'll have to hold that too)
Is there a way to purchase just the bottom plastic base of a thinkpad? My X220 recently got it's bottom-left corner broken off during travel (which is why I want a case). The plastic missing is right near the lower-right corner of the expresscard slot.
thanks guys
>>51973424
Go to the bios
>>51973893
Using software to change cpu clock speeds
Really. I advise against this.
>>51976357
>Falling for the X220 meme
I prefer a plain black messenger bag for my b a s e d T520 :^)
Running arch (antergos)
So far knocking down each bug one by one.
Wow linux is much faster than Windows 10.
Anyways, I need help with this one.
My T420 is not mounting/recognizing the express card to usb 3.0 adapter I bought. No Flash drives nor usb mouses work on the card. However, it powers the devices.
Anyways here's the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381365796933?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
How do I fix?
