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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Retro ThinkPad news:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=118165&sid=0af77786671abcead5c41ec45847322a&start=630#p770582
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/TdZByAXS
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
Never bought my own laptop before and considering an incomplete T500, no HDD or charger. Would probably upgrade to a SSD. Just browsing and programming.
How much should I pay for this thing?
>>51499455
What is the screen resolution? The T9900 is a pretty damn good CPU.
>>51499380
Should I buy any specific DDR 3 RAM for my thinkpad, or should I just buy the cheapest. I'm thinking of upgrading to 4gb.
I'm thinking about buying some kind of buying something like a Lenovo ThinkPad 10 20C3A00QAU 64GB, or something similar for doing various small programming projects when I'm out etc.
Any recommendations of something better and how useful this would be. I plan to run Windows 10 on it and visual studio.
>>51499554
Dunno but also don't particularly care.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-T500-Core-2-Duo-3-06GHz-4GB-RAM-INCOMPLETE-LAPTOP-/381470175575?hash=item58d164f157:g:AXMAAOSwIwhWTKPL
>>51499716
You probably should
if its 1600*900 youre good. In most applications and use cases thats all you really need. And even if you need more real estate you can hookup a second display.
1366*768 on the other hand is a complete cluster fuck designed to punish us for all the unlicensed pickle tickle we do. God made 1366*768 on the 8th coz he a feeling that man kind was going to be a vile race and they needed to be controlled and tortured
.>tl;dr 1366*768 sucks balls 1600 works
I wouldnt pay much more than 100 if that.
So are slim versions really that bad?
>>51499865
I want one because
>that much thinner
>1600x900 default
>usb 3.0
>dGPU
t420 is bulky as shit. but i dont want my 1366x768 cancer on my x220
>>51500001
>fuckin quads
Has anybody tried using thinkpads as light duty servers?
>Multicore
>decent RAM
>expandability
>Good Linux backing
I mean people say the raspberry pi is a decent cheapass homeserver. I can do lots of thing on a ThinkPad that I cant do on a pi. But not vice versa and at the end of the day i can take my "Pad server" anywhere.
Thoughts? Input? Ideas?
>>51500093
any computer can be a server
I have a T410, it's ok, but it have not battery. I don't know which one, the ThinkPad Battery 55++ (9 Cell Lithium-Ion, 94 Watts/Hr) or the ThinkPad Battery 27++ Slice (9 Cell Lithium-Ion, 11.1 V, 8.4 Amp/Hr), which is better? Also, where can I buy someone?
(sorry for my english)
>>51500194
That is a given. It's more of a question of can it be a good server. and if so to what extent?
>>51500001
>t420 is bulky as shit
In what way? Minus the side speakers I don't see how it's bulky.
>>51500214
Sure it can be a fine server. It's not really clear what you are asking. I mean it's a computer with a decent cpu, room for ram, and sata-based storage with a gigabit ethernet card. It's as good a server as any computer with those specs would be.
>>51500001
>muh thinness
Manlet detected, also the source of all soldered, throttling ultrabook garbage that plagues the laptop world
>>51499380
>Recommended models:
>T420 - 14", normal size
Got this in the price range on the guide in just about mint condition. The *only* thing is the battery could hold more charge and there is a tiny white scuff on a corner. I'm coming from something that got 3 hours of battery life on a good day though.
I love it.
>>51499865
The T410 was a bitch because it needed 1.8" drives.
T430s looked damn nice sold one for $300 w/o HDD before I could of played with it.
I haven't seen a T420s, S230 Twist was a slow piece of shit (i5 4GB model)
>>51500320
The laptop world caters to the plague 99% of the time.
>>51500320
>"plague"
I still get better battery life on them than my T420, typically. I'm not him. The T420 just excels in that I can hit someone with it and break their nose.
Shit guys, now that someone asked to make a ThinkPad as a server, maybe I should too... for perhaps a torrent server? I have a 1TB HDD it can read off of, I presume an SSD should be used for the base OS and 1TB HDD for data right?
>got a shitty T42 from work, missing keys and HDD/Caddy
>got a pristine A21p, looks operator as fuck, UXGA display but not IPS, 850MHz PIII 512MB RAM, shit HDD, 2 distros not working atm... W2K has a password but I don't want to knock it.
Also I find it quite funny the difference between an e/m model and p is a 15" display and a different keyboard/palmrest bezel for the screen.
I need project to work on over the weekend. Which ThinkPad era should I go more in depth on the graph, or any models in general? Please limit it to 6 years/classes.
I picked up a T430 last night for 130 australian bux.
i5 3320m 2.26
4gb of ram power
500 gb hd
good deal y/n
These keys are fucking nice. Never owned a thinkpad before.
>>51501262
It's also very quiet. Screen is ok.
>>51501262
A T430 for $130AUD is bretty gud by that measure
Unless it's minced to bits or something (hah)
>>51501324
It's in perfect condition, except for a little sticker smudge on the palm rest.
thinklight is love, thinklight is life.
>>51501365
just tried it for the first time. noice.
Just came across this on eBay for anyone who needs to upgrade their t420 screen to 1600x900. The guy is selling Grade A screen assemblies for 39.99. He just accepted my offer of 34.99, so he might go even lower. He still has a few available.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262153154588
>>51501365
>tfw no thinklight on the x220t
I just ordered an overpriced X220t even though I have a perfectly fine X220..
II just want to try one out.
>>51501579
It's not really that useful..
>>51499455
>mfw somebody has a widescreen laptop near me
>>51501365
My x200's thinklight isn't working. Is it a driver issue or it's busted?
>>51501937
when you press fn+page up keys does the notification appear on your screen? also is your bios up to date?
>>51502101
I've never had notifications on any of my thinkpads when I turn on their thinklights
As for its BIOS I'm not sure and I'm at work now so unable to check. How would I know if it's outdated?
>>51502231
assuming you have windows, type msinfo32 and find the BIOS Version/Date item.
>http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/migr-70347
check here for the latest bios update utility for the x200
>>51501365
>it's too dim on my T510, can't see shit
>it's too bright on my X220, shines right in my eyes
>it's just right on my T60
I wish I knew what was going on here so I could fix it. I don't so much mind the X220's excessive brightness as I do the T510's complete uselessness.
>>51502402
here's the result of your instruction
is update necessary?
So I got a brand new chinkpad T450s from work for personal use. Pretty basic model, no ram, 1600x900 screen, 500Gb HDD + 16Gb cache M.2 SSD.
I already got a single-slot 16Gb ram stick (soldered 4 + 16 = 20Gb single channel), a nice 250Gb sataIII SSD and a new WiFi module ripped from an XPS 13 (2015) since the installed Intel 7265 tends to drop 802.11n, even on newer firmware (first time I head of bad open source Intel drivers).
My last upgrade should be the screen since it has the shitty TN. My problem is that the screen models for the T450s are almost non-existent and I'm thinking of buying T440s' models.
Any info on that? From what I'm reading, I should go with AUO (from T440s users' posts).
Can I put a HD where the DVD drive is in one of these things? I remember seeing a site sell the empty trays for it.
>>51503634
Yes, the trays depend on your model though.
Does anyone here actually have experience using virtual machines on the T420 (i7)? How is it?
I'm using a second gen i5 on my desktop and it runs virtual machines at an acceptable level, but I've noticed that the mobile i7 tend to have even less performance than desktop i5 CPUs.
>>51500207
think of the slice battery as an addon to the original battery.
it goes all the way around the bottom and is designed perfectly to work with the 6 or 9 cell battery and lets you get crazy battery life.
but it also adds a fuck load of weight to the laptop and makes it a lot less fun to carry around with you.
also I have a battery for a t410 if you want it.
it came with either my t410 originally, and when I sold my t410 I sold it with only the extended battery so I have no use for it.
>>51503710
what kind of VMs are you running?
VMs work just fine even on my old p4 computer
Would an x301 be worth it if i could snag one for less than 200 Canadian dollars?
Do you buy new batteries from lenovo or from non orginial supplier?
>>51503805
It's worth 110 US dollars as a standard in craiglist.
If I buy something from the W series, if I want another monitor to plug in, is there any reason I shouldn't be buying a good one? eg. MG279Q /4K
I like to play games and need more screen real estate.
>>51503766
Windows 7 or some Linux distros
greetings from my x60t with diying backlight.
my x220t was supposed to arrive today. damn postal service.
Just got a used x230t, all is good in well except for one thing.
Yesterday it charged just fine, and today when booting it was stuck on windows update for quite a while, when it booted the battery was on 0% so I plugged the power cord in, when I did, the battery indicator said I had no battery installed, when I plug it out, it says 0%.
What the actual fuck is going on?
I tried all the readily available answers (fn+f2, reinstalling battery driver, rebooting, windows restore)
>>51506688
I a live linux distro to see if it's a software problem or if the battery crapped itself. The battery probably shit itself
>>51506688
battery controller got rekt. the cells may or may be not damaged.
if you are a teachy you can replace the controller if the cells are okay.
put any live linux and query the battery with TLP to see if it says cycle number, if not the controller is fucked.
>>51506761
I got the thinkpad power manager thing, when I unplug it says the battery condition is good, the bar is ~85% full and the cycle count is about 215 (don't remember exactly).
I am in full on panic mode and have shitty internet, so linux is an hour away.
>>51506803
why panic?
its not like its the end of the world.
you can always pick another compatible battery.
also 215 is okay for a used laptop.
PD: need to clarify that the controller is inside the battery itself, its not on your thinkpad, its really common for them to go kapow.
>>51506903
I'm out of cash and I'm rarely home, I was planning on throwing some things on it and fucking off for until sunday.
Also delivery would take at least another two weeks, which sucks major balls.
>>51506903
>its really common for them to go kapow.
This.
It's a safety feature. At the slightest hint of a problem, the controller will kill the battery to prevent a fire or a melted battery. LiOn is inherently dangerous if the cells are damaged.
>>51499865
no problems with t420s here, battery only lasts 3h but its ok for me, i would like better battery but its not deal breaker for me.
>i7-2620m
>8gb
>1600x900
>usb3
>850 evo ssd
feels good man
also the dgpu isnt that much faster compared to the intel, or at least thats what i heard. i personally have dgpu disabled.
Why is my fan so loud again when the highest temp is 37c?
>>51507067
tomppa vittu perkele :D
>>51507067
because its doing its best to maintain that temp.
CAPTCHA: streams counts as mountains.
>>51506994
>>51506903
>>51506761
So uhh, can I tinker with the battery controller myself, or do I need a replacement controller to even hope to fix this?
I recently bought a Macbook Air for like 600 dollars but realized it was just a huge waste of money and I bought it on impulse and returned it for a refund only to buy a refurbed Thinkpad T420 for 120 dollars. Will I regret this later on
I actually like it though. Batter life is really good, keyboard is great, but the screen is kinda low res.
>>51507146
But why? it seems like a very low target for a laptop. I wouldn't mind if it let it run bit warmer before turning into a hairdryer.
>>51505979
Nice setup
>>51505979
thank you, but thats not a "setup" but just a racing sim
btw, my X220t is here
i could pickup tomorrow on the post office.
aw yiss.
im sorry, my trusty old friend of X60t but its time for you to rest.
The t430 seems like a better version of the t420, but with a chiclet keyboard instead. Is that right?
>>51507305
What Macbook Air did you get for $600? That's a good price
>>51507415
I wish I had 'Van' in between my names. That's cool
>>51500376
whats ur temps like?, mine like pic related, seems to be way hotter when I activate Nvidia GPU in bios.
Is this worth 400$? I don't think I should pay over 350 for it idk
http://longisland.craigslist.org/sys/5317407685.html
>>51508199
some argue the correct way is "vanHaren" as its a family name and no a marriage name, but on my ID it has a space
(my country law doesnt differenciate between the two so heh)
Which online retailer has the least shitty refurbished models?
I'm thinking of buying a x220
>>51500249
thinner than most of the laptops that I already own besides the chromebook I like it cause its seems pretty thin for what it has
>x220 with 8gb ram, 220€
pull the trigger?
>>51508115
yes
ivy runs hot but has much improved gfx
I'm iffy about the t430 screen. I'm not that picky of a user so if it's decent then whatever, but some people make it out to be the worst thing ever. In terms of laptops, Im coming from a Samsung Series 3 Chromebook which was pretty shitty, so I'm hoping it's an improvement cause I don't want to spend money to get a similar screen. Basically, is the t430 screen really THAT bad? I may watch some movies/shows but if I want the most out of it I'd probably just get on my desktop.
>>51501579
Common problem on x220. It's a broken monitor ribbon cable. lrn2solder or buy a replacement.
>>51508955
Why is the only spec you listed 8gb of ram?
>>51504370
any core 2 duo should handle it just fine
have you been installing the special VM drivers?
maybe you should try using VMware (there's keys floating around if you don't have one)
>>51509086
only thing out of the ordinary
it has the 2520M, 360 gb hdd and the tn panel
good condition
>>51504097
you won't be able to do 4k 60fps, but you can do 2560@60 or 4k@30
>>51509040
if you care about it, do the 1080p ips mod or buy a t440p with the 1080p ips panel
>>51506994
>>51507194
>>51506903
>>51506803
>>51506761
>>51506723
>>51506688
It seems stallman himself has smiled upon me.
I checked all through my house to find another charger, I found it, but apparently it was faulty, so that was a no-go, I tried fixing it but it was the plug itself that was bad so I was bummed out.
I also updating the bios but apparently you need a fully charged battery, so that's a no-go too.
In a final attempt almost 3 hours later, I tried plugging it in and booting it up one last time, and the fucker worked!
I will promptly install gentoo.
Anyone know how to fix "cannot install or load RTCore64 driver", I cant find it nowhere
>>51504097
Just buy a 1080p or 1440p. playing on 4k isn't quite there yet, especially not on a laptop...
>full compatability with Windows 7, OpenBSD, OS X, and all modern Linux kernels
>capable of carrying just about all of them at once, thanks to the mSATA and ultrabay possibilities
>expandable RAM easier to reach than in the T61
>middle mouse button or emulation via hitting both touchpad buttons
This T420 can open a fucking unholy amount of new tabs/windows/videos. I've had it for almost a year now, and it's still impressive as hell. I had considered buying the W520 a year prior, but other than the LCD and GPU, it wasn't a fit, because I need my HD3000 for great battery. It's not out of the question, though. Typically, how long does a W520 battery last? (doing basically anything but intensive 3D games, I only do this when plugged in)
>>51509446
you are aware Stallman doesnt endorse Gentoo right?
>>51509535
I have a signed copy of that driver, used for RMClock on my T60p, which is at home in a stack of older laptops. It's available for download on some old tech forum as a mirror link, but I don't remember where, and the link would likely be filtered as spam anyway. I don't think it would be wise to serve or download DLLs on an imageboard. You can use the unsigned version on XP only, but this alone should tell everything about how safe that version of Windows was; XP needs no introduction.
>>51509649
I have it also at home somewhere, I just wanna try undervolt my t420 for some batterylife and temps. Been looking on google but cant find none.
>>51509725
Not possible on a T420.
>>51509734
its not?. WHY?
>>51509783
You just can't do it, the mobile sandy bridge+ voltage controllers aren't accessible.
Did someone say SuperFish?
>>51509839
Nah, they said eDellRoot, but I use Linux anyways.
>>51509839
/tpg/ is devoted to pre chinkpads.
that is nothing more post X220 or T420.
and these, all T,X,W series before x3x have no superfish
>>51509897
superfish was never a problem on thinkpads
>pre chinkpad
you're talking machines built before 2002 at this point, before ibm contracted out manufacturing to china
related to the thread.
i recall some laptops from HP. (no, not elitebook) that were like a 1:1 clone of a thinkpad. (minus the clitmouse), i mean boxy, angular design, same colour and same mate finish.
what were these called? are they any good?
>>51510037
HP nx?
Too old to be usable.
>Order W520 off eBay
>$350 for a 2760MQ, what a deal
>Keep asking seller for tracking number but get no response
>It arrives, only a 2720MQ
>But has twice the RAM I paid for
>Also scratched all to shit
>Power cord is chewed up
>Colorimeter isn't working
>Seller contacts ME saying "yeah sorry I ran out of 2760MQs so I threw in some more RAM"
>I respond talking about the other problems, ask for either a new palm rest or $50 refund so I can buy a new one
>Hasn't replied to me yet
How much would 8GB of RAM cost? Did he seriously put in that much effort? Because the rest of the laptop has some notable deficiencies and I'm getting tired of this guy's spotty communication. Thinking of just reporting it "not as described" to eBay.
>>51510208
>Thinking of just reporting it "not as described" to eBay.
Just do it, he's had a chance to give a reasonable response.
>>51509040
Typing from that laptop right now I can tell you that the screen isn't that bad
is x220/230 worth it even though it has an abysmal resolution? Also which one is better?
Try play CSGO, 70-120fps not bad but the temps FUCK ME
Got a x250 3 weeks ago, I fucking love it!
Using it with Fedora 23, worked out of the box.
>>51510826
The IPS screen is bretty gud
>>51511006
>mfw my phone has more than 4 times the pixels, on a display more than 4 times smaller
Posting from a freshly aquired X200t.
Nearly original specs with only the drive swapped for a SSD, the original pen and a dock for USD 125.
Still have some RAM left over, so it will be upgraded.
Will the 32-bit OEM Windows 7 be transferable to a 64-bit version of Windows 7?
>>51511001
don't know if I can spend that much dawg otherwise i'd be all over it
>>51511055
>falling for the overengineering jew
how many more shekels will you be willing to pay for an 8K screen in the next fiscal quarter, goyim?
>>51511078
paid 1000€
>i5
>256GB SSD
>8GB RAM
>1920x1080, no Touchscreen
>backlit keyboard
list price here is ~1600€ for this customization.
Thank student offers!
>>51511134
>1000€
I would never in my life spend that much money on a laptop, good lord
Just buy last year's model for like 300€ and drop in the x250 touchpad for 25€
these incremental cpu 'upgrades' are a fucking ruse
>>51511134
yeah im looking at like $300 max
>>51509633
Why?
>>51510826
well the battery is gud on these, 1336X764 is enough to shitposting.
ah, the x230 is not a big leap on performance than the x220 and have worse keyboard than the x220
>>51511270
refer to this
http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html
>>51511309
So they don't endorse any of major distributions. How nice. Thanks for link btw.
>>51510993
solder and bend some heatpipes on that garbage heatsink.
>>51507415
41.62 duty in usd or euros?
>>51511568
u what?
>>51511602
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Antillean_guilder
also i rebbutted that as laptops are duty free here. (the thinkpad was incorrectly marked as tablet)
Fucking SATA speeds, filling up this 500gb drive is Teedus.
is OSX capable to boot from the MSata SSD or im better off installing it on the regular SSD?
>>51511932
yes
>>51510079
damn that's good looking
>>51512020
yeah i used to had one of these like 8-9 years ago. forgot what model these were.
they feeled like thinkpad clones with the boxy design and mate finish
>>51508488
350 is the max i'd pay
if you can get him down to 300 then definitely go for it
Could the yoga 460 save thinkpad?
There's a thinkpad t430 for $400 on amazon right now, is this a good deal? I'm searching for a new laptop to replace my current crapper. Ideally it has to be >= 1600x900 res and have a processor >= i5 G2, both qualities the t430 has. The hard drive space is a bit small though.
>>51510208
No fuck that, 8GB ram? if he got two 4GB sticks probably cost 20 bucks each or hell even less if hes a recycler, fuck him, he should of told you that its not what was expected, you did not want to buy a scratched to fucked machine.
When we had a laptop or part broken, we messaged the buyer first before we offered what we had that was in greater value, or if there was anything we could of worked out.
>>51514342
I sold a T430s for $300 locally and a T430 w/ a minor cosmetic issue for $240 via eBay.
I'd only pay that much from a TPF enthusiast or from a trusted local seller.
Hey guys, this might be a bit weird of a request..
So, I'm planning on setting up a projector in my room, with a pull down screen.
Now, my gpu is at the max monitors it can handle, and switching monitors constantly would be awkward.
Instead, since all my media is already on a network drive, I'll just get a cheap PC and hook it up to the projector.
A laptop seems ideal for this, since I can shove it in some where or duck tape it to the ceiling.
And, I already have the perfect canidate, a old t60, whose screen broke and is removed.
Only problem is, I know it will have some trouble with the heavy bitrate 1080p stuff.
So, any ideas of thinkpads, or any laptop really for <100 that will be the most powerful?
Screen, battery, even build quality for the most part don't matter.
Just video decoding ability, has to be able to connect to wifi, and not be a vacuum cleaner.
Right now I'm seeing t410 as my best option?
(Miniitx desktop would be nice, but more expensive.)
>>51514384
Ah well, the t430 is sold by a "amazon certified refurbisher", whatever that means. There's one on ebay for $300 but it has minor scratches, so it'd be a gambit on how minor they actually are or not. Think I'm going to jump on it, I'm a bit tired from searching for laptops all week and the next "best" thing I can find is a t450 with a better processor/integrated GPU and has 2 3 cell batteries(does that make is a 6 cell?) but with 4GB less ram.
How are the batteries on these things? Anything I should be prepared for with them? Also as an aside, could I upgrade the harddrive to an SSD or would it just be better to get an external one?
>>51514529
I have a shitheap SL410 that handles 1080p Japanese cartoons fairly well when plugged in through hdmi. I threw in a T9600 C2D I salvaged from a w500 into it though, which might have made a difference as the stock cpu blows in the sl410. Might as well just get a w500, I guess
>>51514673
That, or something like a t400/t61.
I was sorta hoping for something around the sandybridge level, but oh well.
I got a t60 for 129.99
Good purchase?
>>51514529
Sounds like a job for an SBC rather then a ThinkPad to me.
>>51515089
Any recommendations?
Main reason I thought a used laptop would be good is cost.
>>51515111
RasPi can do 1080p IIRC.
>>51515067
That's a huge ripoff unless it came with one of the better screen options. If you got the 1024x768 model you got fucked.
>>51515067
No, just got a 420 with full spec for 139.99
>>51515139
Only with hardware decoding though, I've heard it can struggle with any type setted subs, with even my old t60 can handle pretty decently.
>>51500093
I have, it was OK but not fast uploads.
is an x220 with IPS , 128gb SSD and 4gb ram a for $260 shipped a good price?
>>51515067
my T420 was $154 with genuine new 6 cell/1600x900/2520m/4gb ram/320gb hdd
I hope this is a ruse because you got fucking rekt if not.
>>51515250
i was looking at one literally just like that
when you consider when you could get a T420 with a better resolution, better cooling, better build quality etc for like $150, the x-series seems pretty dumb.
>>51499380
Does anyone knows how to buy a ThinkPad without a fucking pre-installed Windows on it? or maybe how to get a refund for the license?
>>51515299
even with an IPS?
>>51507067
>he has a poorly configured thinkfan
>>51508696
ebay if you're not a coward/faggot
>>51515351
>T420 with IPS
look at this man and laugh
>>51515067
Far too much unless you're Euro and it's fully specced-out.
>>51515382
Im talking about an x220 with an IPS you fucking kekster
just bought an x220 for $170 because my T420 was not cutting it
i5 2540M
8gb DDR3
IPS screen
128gb ssd
gonna put the 128gb ssd in my T420 and sell dat shit to some noob on ebay for $200 with hdd caddy and charger
>>51515460
part 2
are there any 3rd party batteries for thinkpads that are just as good as genuine? i'm not interested in buying an unopened genuine with 80% original capacity. am i being dumb
>>51515239
what about compute/ssh/database etc?
>>51515536
literally no
also the t420 is better in every way to the x220
>>51515299
unless its the tablet series that is.
>>51515336
most used thinkpads on ebay came without installed windows, just wiped HDDs.
its easier for the seller, and most sellers know they are catering power users so it doesnt really matters.
How is the x220t for drawing?
What should I be looking for when buying one?
I'll buy myself one next month, looking to spend under 200 for one.
>>51515944
that's even worse then. the tablet series is fucking shit.
>was bored last week at work hitting up random ebay sales
>square T61
>$9.99
>T520
>$75
>it's the nvidia optimus version
>YOU WON: 5 other T61's for $9.99 each
>X61s for $12
>>51515596
How so?
>>51516216
t series is built better
higher resolution
better cooling
less problems
>>51516216
worse battery life, washed out panel, not ultra portable
oh wait
>>51516242
Isnt the battery life terrible though?
Isnt the screen quality shit ?
seriously asking.
>>51516258
no?
I get 6 hours from my 6 cell and the screen is perfectly good. the 1600x900 is great for a 14" screen and the colors are good. the x-series is known for having a shit display, well known in fact. don't believe the x-series shills.
>>51516258
>>51516288
Just make sure any T series you get doesn't come with the meme panel. (1366). That shit should not be an option for a 14"+ laptop.
>>51516258
don't listen to the T series shills
x220t come with IPS screens standard
>>51516302
This. Went from a $450 1366 15" normie special to a 900p t420 that cost ~2/3 less. Last time I buy a laptop drunk.
>>51516323
yeah and it's a fucking terrible IPS that has ghosting and shit you fucking shill. the 1600x900 panel on the t420 is fucking perfect for the price. The T420 is the best of all worlds.
>>51516376
>ghosting
I don't think you know what that word means.
>>51516481
I think I do, cause I've already contacted TAPS and your x220 is gonna be on TV.
I want a laptop that lasts a long time on battery and is adequate for programming at school. X220 IPS or t420?
>>51516532
>programming
>x220 vs t420
1366x768 vs 1600x900 basically
>>51507067
I've had an issue on linux where the fan will run at 100% after a resume from sleep. I fixed it by putting `echo 0 > /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device0/cur_state` into my post-resume hooks. The fans spin up as normal if it gets hot, so it's not like permanently disabling the fan.
Do you guys use any kind of docking station kit? I want to switch to a thinkpad but the thought of having to plug in a bunch of cables every time I want to hook up my keyboard, mouse, screen and external drives is filling me with dread.
>>51517069
I plan on getting the docking station for my T420 ASAP just so I don't have to bother plugging in my dell ultrasharp/ethernet/audio interface all of the time when uni starts this spring. right now though, it's just sitting on my desk in my room and not going anywhere so it's not a huge deal.
Hey guys
I would like to be informed on external GPUs and how I would set this up on my t420?
Idiot friendly, thank you kindly.
>>51517542
never did it but from lurking here, it's not a good idea and costs too much and is too much of a hassle for the results you get.
tl;dr don't bother
>>51515067
Sure
>>51514590
When it comes to Amazon you're supposed to reach a certain mark or criteria in your product. Also they charge more than eBay does, which explains the higher prices
Yeah the T450/40 use a two battery setup, you could buy a 6 or 9 cell for the second unit
As far as battery life goes, I want to say I had gotten 5 hours on my T430 with integrated graphics, maybe 4 on my T420. But I always buy used/for parts so they aren't full spec'd. So don't take my review/opinion as fact
I feel you could get a decent spec'd T439 for under $300, I saw a no bidder unit for $200 but I had no reason to get it
Idk what the X1 Carbon 3 gets, looks like 6 hours so far, Windows said 10 hours but I doubt it. Just loaded Kubuntu on it I'll tell y'all how it is soon.
What's a lightweight Linux distro that will run well on a t61p? Xubuntu doesn't work great anymore since I have to rely on Compton and it runs on the GPU which makes it slow as shit
>>51517069
I don't have a monitor or speaker setup for multiple computers, just for a desktop
I thought the ultra base for the X series is comfy as shit, I like getting docks for a novelty
>>51518057
lubuntu or nothing
>>51516376
The T420 has quite literally the worst quality screen I've ever seen in my life. Eat shit
>>51518084
you've never seen a shit screen, then.
>>51518090
I stare at a 6 year old Asus TN panel for my desktop. I even had a horrible Korean 1080i tv for the better part of a decade as our families main tv. I know what shit looks like. I had my friend order a t420 for his sister to use as a work laptop and good fucking God I almost puked
>>51499380
Who wants a free* T41?
>>51516003
As per the usual due to wacom fuckery, the pen cursor has a mind of its own near the edges. Lots of calibrations and a firmware update help but won't solve it completely
It's less ideal than previous iterations and the aspect ratio really doesn't help either. Sure it won't kill you but I certainly wouldn't be looking at it for a machine specifically for drawing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_w5lCPvnJw
>>51518674
I noticed that too for the short time I had an x220. Are you saying that older tablets don't have the edge problem?
>>51503726
Not the guy you replied to, but I'll take it if he doesn't, just got two T410 recently for $150, loving them so far but need to keep it plugged in till I get a battery.
>>51518941
I know for certain my X61t doesn't
And there isn't a whole lot of screaming over the X200/X201t so if there's any real amount on those, it's not major
>>51507056
But ultra Bay battery in it.
Make power saving settings.
Get 6hrs battery life. Trust me i have a t420s BlazeIt
So what are the chances that a used one would have around 6 hours battery life?
The TLP battery charge thresholds on my T60 doesnt seem to work at all. Currently have it set to 40-80 but keeps charging to 100 percent. Helpp
>>51519771
well im off to retrieve my x220t from the post. i will test the edges and compare with my x60t.
>>51520106
>tfw T450s with extended battery
>tfw 18+ hours
just buy a new one already fgts
Euro here, where to buy a T420s?
>>51516288
Fucking moron, T420 can't beat an X220 with an IPS or an X220T.
Shilling at it's finest.
Picked up an X220t today. Looks like it was built yesterday. But damn, this thing feels heavy and bulky as fuck compared to my X220..
I also had no idea that they don't use the same batteries, that's a bummer.
Oh well, at least the screen is nice compared to the TN panel I'm used to
>>51521470
I think the hinge would be flimsy or laptop would need to be extra bulky to use the same battery.
Yeah when I went from X61T to 's' there was a load of difference, I kinda don't like the bulky X61T design but its a tablet thing.
>>51520636
Kubutnu says I have 7+ hours at near full battery on muh buyers remorse X1C3.
>>51520198
I think if you get a T430 or X230 the chances are 30% if buying used/refurb
Decent sellers point it out.
>>51517542
Its good if you have a videocard you don't use, its pretty neat actually, I don't have one but it looks nice.
Otherwise it could be a moneypit if you don't has PSU/GPU lying around.
>>51516551
>implying HD+ panels on the T420 are a dime a dozen
doesn't happen that way sempai
>>51521572
so is the t420 screen shit or is it not?
I still cant decide between a x220 and a t420
>>51499380
T420 here
Is there anyway to split the headphone/speaker output?
Doesnt appear to be running realtek audio so their software wont work.
I want skype on my headset, and muh games out the speakers
I'm gonna get a T430. I like the keyboard, thinklight, usb 3, improved audio, plus next gen. Am i wrong?
![lenovo-tpyoga12-audio-speakers-ext-5-smartaudioii-multi-stream[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/xzFTSNz.png "lenovo-tpyoga12-audio-speakers-ext-5-smartaudioii-multi-stream[1].png")
>>51522011
this should be it, set up the rest in specific programs
>>51521470
also picked my x220t today, the seller listed it as grade C laptop. but hell this is grade A+.
its only missing these rubber stomp things at both sides of the keyboard but other than that its in almost pristine condition.
>>51521572
hey thinktrap, i paid 183 usd for this. it was okay or i overpaid it?
some photos will come next
>>51522181
wait, this shit has multitouch? lol i didnt expect that. my X60t has just penabled screen.
btw the battery has 235 cycles, its that okayish?
>>51522163
hell yea thanks
didn't know what the fuck to use, literally everything else i've owned prior was realtek, and i love their software.
also is the lenovo power manager a good idea to download? (mainly for that battery saving charge feature thing)
only thing i've got installed on w10 is OSD for the top row buttons
>>51522211
heard that power manager on w10 is shit or not working or whatever, but generally it's bretty gut
>>51522266
smart audio looks like fucking trash compared to realtek
but works just as i needed it to, thanks to the help anon.
>>51522181
Just be careful in the long term. Once the rubber tabs come off, the display tends to twist a bit in transport. In turn this will end up causing the keyboard to eventually scratch the touchscreen overlay (it's polycarbonate on the touchscreen model, the pen only X220t is however glass)
235 cycles is ok considering how long the X220t has been around I guess
>>51522430
thanks for the heads up, i will try to find them on china sales siteS or maybe made them using the rubber tabs from a old compaq i have somewhere.
I've read that it's possible to replace the x220 (or other models) screen to a 1080p IPS (from dell xps 12). Has anyone done it, is it worth it and how hard it is?
>>51511134
Got the x240 with same specs for 500€.. its relatice cheap where i am from.
>>51511181
Touchpad is really shit. How fucked am I? What to do? Replace it ? IS the x250 really only 35€ if yes, where do buy?
Will a HP 2540p/2560p be enough for 1080o Hi10p? Or do I go with a T420?
Anyone but thinkpad from shop-arrow-direct on eBay? What star rating did you buy and how was the quality?
I want to buy a non-tablet X220 with an IPS screen. Is there any way to make sure a model has one? I ask most sellers if it has one and they're just "I don't know what IPS is".
I do know that only the i7 model has USB 3.0, is it the same for IPS?
>>51522508
x220 user here. 1366x768 is shit help
>>51523694
bought mine from some guy called TechyParts, good man. listed my x220t as grade B but its like brand new.
>>51522508
>>51524497
I read a little about it a while ago, it's incredibly complicated
I think it said it is because the x220 was never meant to be compatible with a 1080p display, so you have to buy stupidly expensive conversion kit from some japanese guy along with the xps display
I know this sounds pretty autistic, but has anyone tried modding the thinklight before?
I'm thinking about buying a W520, getting a little blacklight LED to replace the thinklight, and getting some blacklight paint for the keys, assuming the default white doesn't show up super bright.
Thoughts?
most powerful and cool running thinkpad that I can carry around?
is this worth it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230-intel-Core-i5-2-6GHz-12-5-WEBCAM-Laptop-8GB-RAM-240GB-SSD-/231631028716?hash=item35ee4901ec
>>51522508
if youve ever replaced the lcd on a laptop before then no it's not that hard
all you really need to do other than putting the panel in, is plug in the lvds to edp adapter and somehow cram that in there.
>>51525524
It sounds doable.
Thanks faggots, bought a x220 and installed arch on it. Shitty thing can't handle a fucking HD mortal kombat stream in source.
Thanks for trolling me faggots.
>>51526072
what did you expect from something that people sell for 100 bucks
>>51526072
>HD mortal komat stream in source
wut
>>51526207
http://www.twitch tv/netherrealm
>>51526278
>not using ffmpeg and vlc to watch twitch
if you wasn't a fucking pleb it wouldn't be an issue
>>51526072
>gaymen laptop
It's your fault you fucking idiot. Don't blame /g/ for your inability to do your own research and choose appropriate equipment for your use case.
I need to get a laptop for my mom and I want to spend $300 or less. only reservation I have is I'd like it to be 1080 and a decent sized screen. is there a thinkpad option for this situation?
>>51526306
It's not a fucking game, it's a FUCKING STREAM.
[spoiler]
retard
[/spoiler]
>>51526332
>getting your mom a thinkpad
just fuck off retard.
>>51526072
my t420 handles that shit fine with 4gb ram and a 2520m.
>>51526363
why not? faggots like you always have on how sturdy and cheap they are as second hand laptops. or maybe you're just a loser who needs a brand to cling to that isn't apple. either way you're a faggot
>>51526398
>faggots like you
>loser
>faggot
and you expect help? it's time to grow up, anon.
>>51501365
>cares about thinklight
Hunt'n'pecker detected.
I scored a X200t on a local site for around USD 120, advertised as not used for a few years.
Turns out it's quite a nice machine that got neglected and therefore advertised wrongly.
> 2 GB RAM
>160 GB SSD
> unused WWAN module
> Ultrabase
> tailor-made carry-on sleeve
> Windows Vista 32-bit
I upgraded the RAM and installed Windows 7 x64, so there are only two questions left:
- What is the best way to get rid of the smell (it smells like an international sleeper train for some reason)?
- What are good programs to use for touch mode on Windows 7?
>>51526531
That thinkpad has a shit intel chipset, you're gonna lag watching some videos.
>>51526531
Does it smell like sweaty balls and vinegar?
You have to open the HDD bay and take the rubber rails out holding the drive in place. Throw them away and use a piece of cardboard as a replacement. The rubber rails on these thinkpads goes bad after like 3-4 years and starts to smell. Don't worry, once you take them out and have the computer on, the smell will go away/be completely gone within 24-48 hours.
>>51526416
not from you, I don't have time to fuck around with your butthurt bullshit and you're not /g/ as a whole. it's a simple question and you responded like an assburger so fuck off
>>51526617
I was a bit afraid of that, but it's not that smell (at least from what I can smell), I guess it's more likely the smell of the basement of the previous owner.
Will some blasts of compressed air take care of that?
>>51526636
You're the genius that thinks his mom will give a single fuck about any of the thinkpad features because you're a cheap bitch that doesn't love his mom enough to buy her anything nice.
>>51526653
It might just smell like some weird funky shit. That's basically it. Open the HDD bay by unscrewing that one screw and take a wiff, basically. If it is very strong there, you know for sure that it's the HDD rails. It will be very obvious, trust me. It might just smell like some old laundry or some shit like that. It just smells weird, but it's the rails. the materials on thinkpads don't really hold smells or develop any except for those useless pieces of rubber in the HDD bay.
>>51526653
just spray some can spray bro
>>51526653
I just throw the rails away and leave the laptop open to air for an hour, maybe with a fan blowing into the holes and such. Then, I will just use it and deal with the smell for a few hours because it won't be gone yet as it sticks around in the hdd bay and on the drive that was in it. It will start to fade once you turn it on and let it go without the rails in it. After the first night, the smell will be 99% gone. it's just those stupid rails.
>>51526665
none of what you said makes sense. even I don't give a fuck about "thinkpad features" and of course I want a cheap reliable notebook for her, stop shitting your diaper over nothing. you probably spend all day in this general and collect old shit with IBM written on it and think a normal person gives a fuck.
>>51526665
you cant buy good laptops with 300 dollars, he probably wants a bang for his money since thinkpad are dirt cheap and decent
stop projecting
>>51526617
>sweaty balls
im not american and my sides are on orbit right now. how specific.
anyway, is the HDD rail smell problem isolated to the x200/t/s?
because my x60, my x61t and my x220t doesnt have these issue. and these also have rubber rails
>>51526808
no, it's with any thinkpad that has those rails. it may be due to the bay heating up too much or something. I don't know, but most of the used/old thinkpads that i've owned have had that problem and I just toss the rails immediately as it's always the source.
>>51526869
x60t/x220t dutch dude with the van middle name here.
my x60t doesn't have that issue as well. and i have it since 2007.
My brother needs a cheap laptop for quick on the go video editing nothing professional just for skating footage, would this one do?
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B00YNVJA8A/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448487271&sr=1-6&keywords=thinkpad
this is the camera he is using
http://www.walmart.com/ip/GoPro-CHDHA-301/39969672
>>51526953
it beats me, really.
hey my x200 battery is constantly jumping from 3 hours and 20 minutes to 2 hours and 20 minutes. and so on. its time for a calibration?
>>51527074
well maybe its because of the weather.
i live on a Caribbean island and its dry almost all year long
>>51509142
I would try to find the ips one
>>51526961
use ebay or don't bother. you'll get ripped off hardcore if you don't.
>>51527153
is this one good?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-14-Notebook-with-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-3-20GHz-Turb-/301673281094?hash=item463d20f646:g:c6gAAOSwjVVVjVSs
What are you guys using your convertibles for?
>>51527238
Doesn't look bad, maybe upgrade the RAM, as you could get another stick of 4 GB and use that one.
>>51527247
isnt that obvious?
