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>How to request purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>$200 and under headphones (temporary):
http://pastebin.com/CCQCUv5e

>$200 and over headphones:
http://i.airi.su/hpg.png

>Earphones /g/uide:
http://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
>>51255744
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first for akg
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first for monitor calibration
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>>51268212
>>51268221
hd600
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First for HD600 is the best all rounder
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>>51268267
Agreed.
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>>51268267
agreed x2
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>>51268267
agreed
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>>51268267
yup
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Daily reminder that DT880 is obsolete.


HD558 is more durable than the DT880 as it features flexible plastic that DOES NOT crack.

HD558 is much more accurate to the ISO Diffuse Field Target than the DT880.

HD558 is cheaper than the DT880.

HD558 features a detachable cable.

HD558 is more comfortable and has earcups that are oval shaped like humans' ears as opposed to DT880's dumb circular design that can sometimes pinch larger ears.

HD558 is easier to drive than the DT880.
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>>51268270
>>51268282
>>51268308
>>51268312
samefag
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>>51268267
agreed x3

>>51268317
hd558 is shit buy hd600
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>>51268321
1/4

How new are you?
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>>51268270
>>51268282
>>51268308
>>51268312
>>51268323
thank you, at last I can rest in peace
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>>51268267
def agreed
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>>51268321
1/4 nigga
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>>51268317
when you can get dt880s for 150$ what do you expect

>>51268321
no i don't even have sennheisers
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>>51268267
absolutely agreed
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>>51268319

Enjoy your colored shit.
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>>51268267
how could somebody not agree?
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>6 unique posters
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>>51268267
100% agreed
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>>51268395
lol I'm starting to think its becoming sarcasum
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>>51268267
couldn't agree more
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>>51268405
you think people value trolling over giving their own super unique special opinion when it comes to elitist headphone bragging opportunities like this
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>>51268267
simply a flawless headphone, agreed
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Beyerkeks unite.
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>>51268426
>>51268428

i retract my statement lmao
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>>51268267
yep when you get good amp synergy these are absolute killers
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>>51268426
no they don't, thanks for the reassurance
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shaking my head to be honest family
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>>51268449
Ok, recommend me the best amp you can get, I want the best music experience since I have never used one or have any idea of one
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>>51268267
no other headphone comes close
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>>51268468
definitely eddie current balancing act

if you can try to get some balanced moon audio cables for the headphones too
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>>51268207
Is he wearing a hijab under that Orpheus?
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>>51268267
yep
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>>51268490
Wait, does it cost £3000? If so theres no way I can buy that
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>this thread

>>51268514
shitposting desu
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>>51268514
you said you wanted the best
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>>51268523
ok can you suggest me a affordable one then
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>>51268267
>beyerkeks, philipskeks and akgkeks can't deny this
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>>51268536
if he doesn't link you the cheapest piece of shit i'm going to be sad
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>have to buy IEMs
>go to TheHeadphoneList and look at the top rated IEMs under $150
>Exclude all those that are out of production
>Exclude all those that have poor isolation
>Exclude Etymotic because I'd like my IEMs to be more like my X2 than a the HD600
>Exclude all those that are impossible to find in Europe
So what do you guys think about the RE-400 and the EPH-100?
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>>51268536
bottlehead crack w/speedball upgrade
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>>51268536
affordable?
Denon AH-D7100
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>>51268551
? seems like a suspicous link
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>>51268536
Try to ignore the shitposters. Objective 2 or Magni will do fine. Get whichever you find cheaper or whichever looks the best.
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>>51268569
suspicious how? its just DIY. you're gonna have to build it yourself if you can't afford a prebuilt good amp

ignore idiots like >>51268571 they don't know what good amps sound like
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>>51268594
So its better if I build it myself then?
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I'm considering purchasing an hd 600 and I want to be able to use it with both my computer and my phone. What amps would you recommend that would work with both, and do I need a dac/amp combo? Also, would an amp be necessary if my desktop has a sound card (creative sound blaster z)?
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>>51268606
its cheaper you can probably find some prebuilt kits being sold secondhand but you're better off building it yourself
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>>51268594
Also suggest me a good prebuilt amp
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>>51268267
agreed and pictures of broken headphones prove nothing
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>>51268613
you're not going to get the most out of the hd600 without a good amp and dac

>>51268623
valhalla 2 maybe but i havent heard the combo myself so i cant fully recommend it
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>>51268623

schiit magni 2

>>51268613

schiit fulla i guess but there's better alternatives
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>>51268628
does this mean all the agreed people was being sarcastic?
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>>51268619
bottlehead crack w/speedball upgrade, how do I open this? I tried replacing space with dots
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>>51268687
http://bottlehead.com/product/crack-otl-headphone-amplifier-kit/
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First for X2: best all-around headphones which don't require an amp to sound vastly superior than 10$ iems
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>>51268649

every last one after like the fifth agree
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>>51268267
definitely
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>>51268267
i have to agree
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>>51268697
Mainline Headphone Amplifier Kit
Crack OTL Headphone Amplifier Kit
Single Ended eXperimenter’s Kit 2.1 for Headphones & Sensitive Speakers
NEW! Crack-a-two-a OTL Headphone Amplifier Kit
and more
What do I pick?
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>>51268763
get the crack-a-two
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>>51268780
Do I tick anything in the options boxes?
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>>51268797
nah none of it is an audible improvement
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DT990 Pro vs K702 vs MA900 (stretching my budget)

will be used for music and gaymen.
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>>51268810
So how good is the Crack-a-two-a compared to the Magni 2 Headphone Amplifier and Valhalla 2 Headphone Amplifier? since it is more expensive than them
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>>51268824
hd600
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>>51268854
absolutely blows them out of the water

its comparable to the woo audio wa2
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>>51268824
HD558.
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>>51268877
it says I need a power cord, can you recommend me one?
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>>51268927
since I'm from UK
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>>51268966
it has a universal transformer so you can just buy a travel adapter to use the cord it comes with
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>>51268613
Portable amp?
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>>51268877
Back to Head-Fi with your audiophile trash gear.
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>>51269019
wait why?
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>>51269019
>Reminder that you wasted your money if your collection isn't in FLAC
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>>51268824
out of those, k702 but go for the 558
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>>51269004
poor little poorfag doesn't know what sounds good
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>>51269044
>poor
o this gonna be gud
>little
get ready for it
>poorfag
what a fucking letdown you shitty faggot
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>>51269036
Some of mine are in .mp3, can you explain whats wrong with this?
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>>51269044
Fuck off audiophile scum that doesn't understand the engineering behind amps. Enjoy getting milked from audiophile companies.
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>>51269034
bait, ignore
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first for sucking too many dicks
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>>51269063
when did /g/ turn into a breeding ground for pseudo-intellectuals pretending like they're EE postgrads?
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>>51269075
>Nirvana

Just when I thought you couldn't go any lower, catfag.
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>>51269075

why hd800s though
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>>51269090
When did /g/ turn into Head-Fi?

Seriously fuck off with your audiophile misinformation.
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>>51269126
lol you literally don't know the first thing about EE and you're trying to talk about others spreading misinformation
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>>51269102
Well they're better than beyershits.
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>>51269150
they are beyershits
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>>51269142
>recommending overpriced tube-amps when Magni/Objective2 is completely transparent and provides flawless sound
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There's never any love for IEMs in these threads.
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>>51269181
keep regurgitating those terms you literally learned from /hpg/ because you're a retarded NEET who doesn't know the first thing about EE
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>>51269184
>not using your phone
It's like telling everyone 'hey I'm a virgin' in public
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>>51269189
Feel free to prove his statement wrong.
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>>51269195
>Limiting myself to a 16bit DAC.
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>>51269184
There are so many money in that picture it's offensive.
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>>51269226
>implying you can tell the difference

My sides.
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>>51269223
go listen to them and you'll see why better components can result in better sound when the circuitry is done right
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>>51268267
agreed
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>>51269245
>Resorting to ad hominem

:^)
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>>51269248
You sure proved him wrong.

Also, fuck off to Head-Fi where you and the rest of the subjectivist can circlejerk about cable sound signatures and synergy.
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>>51269271
must be nice being poor
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>>51269184
AK Jr.?
And no there isn't.
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>>51269281
Yeah, unfortunately not loaded enough to get the AK120ii
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Ohi ohi!
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>>51269306
Fuck off already.
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>>51269311
Mad jelly beyershill detected
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>>51269301
I always felt I could better results by adding an outboard portable DAC/amp to my phone. It adds about the same bulk, but most of the time I would just use my phone alone with IEMs. Sub-1 ohm Zout makes it easier.
That A&K(Iriver) is milking audiophiles for cash is an open secret.
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>>51269301
Jr is smaller than the 120ii. How is battery life?
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Christ these threads are worse than ever.
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>>51269277
Not poor, but educated.
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>>51269459
hd600
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>>51269474
Agreed.
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>>51269469
you aren't educated though, we've already established the fact that you know absolutely nothing about EE
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>>51269350
I tried my iPhone 6S with no DAC, tried it with the E12K. Borrowed my friends NW-ZX100HN and the AK Jr. was the best by far. It had the most neutral sound the best separation. I know for a fact I've overpaid massively for what is essentially a shitty mp3 player but the aesthetics make up for it a little.

>>51269423
Battery life is 7-9 hours at most. I charge it every 2 days.
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>>51269489
ee this
ee that

do you know some other vowels
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Whats with the hd600, agreed trend?
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Hello, I'm currently debating between getting HD600 or HD650 headphones to move on from my desktop's rather-disappointing onboard audio.

I'll be getting an Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card, and most likely a JDS Labs Objective2 amp. This probably won't change unless there's actually a better DAC/amp choice out there that isn't completely outside of that price range.


On my desktop, I have mostly used Sony MDR-XB500 headphones: back when I got them like three years ago, they sounded relatively fine to me... but nowadays I'm mostly listening to music on my phone through a Bose MiE2 mobile headset (with music clarity sound effect through the default Android music player), which actually sounds quite decent to me. :s


Here's the kind of music I listen to, for reference.
www.last.fm/user/DeadSignal

Any advice/input/suggestions would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.
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>>51269528
glad we could confirm that again

now you can stop talking like you know anything
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>>51269541
>homura
just kill yourself tbhfam
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>>51269541
>homura
Kek
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>>51269517
>It had the most neutral sound the best separation.
K E K
E
K

>>51269489
I know far more than you, you delusional retard.

>>51269541
The STX alone can power the HD600 or HD650 easily (in fact to ear splitting levels), no need for the Objective2.
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>>51269592
you know nothing though we've established that a number of times now, you retarded shitposter
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>>51269603
Prove him wrong then.
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>>51269543
wrong guy, guy
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>>51269612
about what? he's literally regurgitating basics like he knows it all

"informed" consumers are truly the worst, they act like they know a thing when they clearly don't and then act elitist about it to regular consumers
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>>51269541
homura is a pretty good waifu
unfortunately some people can't appreciate her

you'll definitely enjoy the 650's more
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>>51269680
>homura is a pretty good waifu
you kill yourself too casual
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>>51269695
not that she's my waifu
i'd end my laifu

i only have husbandos
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>>51269570
>>51269583
>>51269695
who's ur waifu then faggots
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>>51269718
>>51269736
>madokafags
literally the most casual among casuals, no better than narutards
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>>51269718
actually i lied, kinda. no waifus but sayaka is bae

i made this even though its shit
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>>51269750
go back to reddit
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>>51269758
what the fuck is that
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>>51269770
shit series (ie madoka) circlejerks
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Headphones thread, lets talk about other random stuff
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>>51269750
Shit desufam even homura's better than that.
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>>51269782
madoka wasn't that bad
what's good animu then though
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I hope you faggots calibrate your monitors and use neutral headphones/speakers for a superior audio/visual experience.
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>>51269807
aria
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>>51269807
Pokimon
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>>51269788
hd600
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>>51269813
i calibrate my monitors but they're actually good monitors

i sure hope you don't waste your time calibrating shitty monitors. that'd be like EQing $5 headphones
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>>51269813
Are you serious?
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>tfw listening to on-hold music while calling ISP
>tfw this is the Sennheiser experience
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>>51269842
check the last thread for the circlejerk regarding >>51269813
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>tfw inserting dragon dildo into my eardrum
>tfw this is the Beyerdynamic experience
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>tfw listening to akg headphones for the first time
>tfw there's no music playing because it's out of the frequency range
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>>51269840
Calibration makes shitty monitors better but that doesn't mean I use shitty monitors.

Also, $5 headphones, once it has sufficient bandwidth can achieve pretty good results with EQ.
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>>51269908
it's the price you have to pay for superior sound

see also: etymotic
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>>51269887
But will calibrating your monitor, mean better visual expereience?
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>>51269925
you use shitty monitors though

give me a speccy screenshot to prove otherwise
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>>51269925

>$5 headphones sound good with good eq
[spoiler]why you always lyin, oh my god, stop fuckin lyin[/spoiler]
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>>51269950
holy shit i should just die
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>>51269944
I'm on my phone.

I don't use shitty monitors. But it doesn't make what I said not true. You can calibrate shitty monitors to make them better, not as good as professional grade products obviously.

>>51269950
It's true though, once it has bandwidth. You can EQ a $5.99 RPHJE120 to sound more neutral than an ER-4S.
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>>51269987
>excuses
you use shitty monitors and you waste your time calibrating those shitty monitors

>You can EQ a $5.99 RPHJE120 to sound more neutral than an ER-4S.
maybe if you have the measurement equipment to test it with, otherwise no
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>>51270007
>maybe if you have the measurement equipment to test it with
What are you trying to say.

>>51269517
Haven't used the Jr. , but the neutrality using 120ii/240 was not the case with SE846 and UERM. Noticeable loss in treble, just like with the iPhone.
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>>51270085
i'm trying to say your hearing alone isn't adequate enough to EQ headphones to true neutrality and that you'd have to spend thousands of dollars just to EQ some $5 in-ears to be more neutral than the ER-4S when you can just buy the ER-4S
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>>51270116
>i'm trying to say your hearing alone isn't adequate enough to EQ headphones to true neutrality
Define true neutrality. Tolerance range please, or try and tell me why not.
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>>51270242
DF curve followed perfectly by frequency response
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>>51270085
This is as far up as I've ever been in the high end market. To my ears it sounds amazing. I am aware that the Shures roll off the top end anyway, but I wasn't aware the AK's added to that. I have turned off the "PRO EQ" setting because it was a bit too bass heavy for my music tastes.

You seem to have much better equipment, and much keener hearing than me, so I'd be more inclined to go with your opinion on this one.
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>>51270007
>you use shitty monitors and you waste your time calibrating those shitty monitors
I don't. Why do you care this much?
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>>51270085
>SE846 and UERM
low-fidelity meme tier IEMs
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>>51270418
>pushing calibration this hard
>has shitty monitors
>literally can't prove otherwise
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>>51270457
>he thinks a Speccy screenshot is valid proof when I could just steal one, do a simple edit and make it unable to reverse image search to pinpoint the source

lel, why do you care this much?

I've spent thousands on my monitors though.
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How bad are the Beats Solo2? They look so nice
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>>51270269
I'm pretty sure it is already established that DF EQ=flat headphone. I ask for error range.

>>51270364
>and much keener hearing than me
I was trying to make the A&K fail. I don't own SE846, not my flavor. SE846 is usally handy, which makes it easy to compare.
Then again, I was wondering if I was crazy when I though an old Cowon player I using was slightly subbass light. Imagine my not surpise when it actually did roll off a bit with the IEMs I was using.
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>>51270480
i'm having a fun time calling you out on your bullshit and your weak attempts at dodging the subject after you come in here pushing the calibration shit

face it retard, mom bought you a shitty gaming monitor
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>>51270486
on ears are extremely uncomfortable

also beats are the macs of headphones
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>>51270507
How are you going to DF EQ the $5 headphones when you don't have measurements of that exact unit, not just the same model measured by someone else, to get the EQ right?
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>>51270510
I own a 144Hz monitor which I use for only for CS:GO. But I didn't even bother to calibrate it because it looks like shit even when calibrated, and I use the default settings because it makes seeing enemies easier I suppose.

I'm pretty sure I've posted this on /hpg/ before.
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>>51270551
>144hz meme shit
kek

of course TN trash looks like shit
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>>51270561
I only use it for CS:GO.

In fact I haven't played it in weeks, so there you go, and it's one of the many monitors on my large desk.
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>>51270589
why don't you just sell that useless shit
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soundmagic e10 or jvc ha fx40b? note the jvcs are about a third the price
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He's the during, (I didn't get a true before, but this is one cup with the original pad still on.)
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>>51270622
Here's a comparison
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>>51270634
And after.
So far so good, seems to be a nice improvement
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>>51270561
I'm curious dude, how shitty is your life? Did your mother not hug you enough? Did daddy beat you? Or do you just gets bullied so much at school that shitposting on an anonymous Chinese cartoon image board the only way you can feel better about yourself?

Smhtbhfam
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>>51270522
You know, this gives me the idea for a business.

Get that thousand dollars of equipment, get shitty 5 dollar in ears, EQ them to be flat, rebrand them, and sell em for 50-100.

Get some chinese brand that lets you rebrand them ofc.
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>ATH M40x
Are these cans any good? I listen to 99% EDM. Heard they didn't go all-out on bass. Will EQ fiddling make it any better or should I just get the m50x's?
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>>51270656
so butthurt LOL

nah tbhfam i was the one bullying the faggots at school and what do you know, we're all grown up now and i'm still bullying you permavirgins
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>>51270669
how are you going to have that EQ applied to the product
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>>51270690
Send the EQ file with the headphones on a thumb drive.
Or maybe build a digital EQ into a dac/amp, and make them them USB IEMS, and bump the price to 150.
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Anyone have experience with the JVC HA FX31?
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>>51270507
Yeah it's partly why I gave up on trying to use my iPhone. Even with a DAC everything sounded rolled off from the top and bottom and I had to use a huge V shaped equaliser just to get everything else in line with the mids, which introduced clipping. Granted that's partly due to the Shures sound signature.

The only issue I have with the AK is that it's so clear even with the volume HIGH that I have to purposely remind myself to keep the volume low or I'll make myself deaf.
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>>51270718
wasn't the point of your business to sell those inconspicuously though so retarded placebophiles don't realize it's EQ?

as soon as they find out it's EQ they'll just go on about how it sounds bad and whatnot. plus as soon as somebody takes one apart to reveal it's a shitty OEM driver you'll get caught out and thanks to the mcgurk effect, they'll sound like shit from that point on

the best method would be to price them ridiculously and make their chassis super flashy, maybe even out of wood or solid cnc'd aluminum. price them at kilobuck range. that way, you'll really only be targeting the audiophiles with money, the ones who would never drop that amount of money on a product just to open it up (especially with IEMs since it's hard to put them back together)

this is basically the strategy behind synergistic research and most other audiophile cable manufacturers
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>>51270775
That's true.

Another idea then.
Person sends in any headphones, pays 100-200, you mail them back with an EQ file + measurements.
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>>51270804
that would actually be really good. i'd pay for that, maybe not 100-200 but that kind of service would be really nice for people who don't have access to high end measurement equipment and/or the knowledge behind actually creating the EQ to compensate once you know the measurement of the unit in question
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Who /beyersremorse/ here?

>bought some 770s
>jack broke within the first 3 months
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>>51268495
Sennheiser doesn't want the pads touching his face.
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>>51270775
Plenty of companies already do this though. Etymotic ER4 referenz were found to use $8 drivers and people still lap that shit up.
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>>51270838
yes but in this situation the target market would be dumb audiophiles, not people looking for measured performance

the fact that it didn't hit ety's sales hard means their customers clearly aren't stupid enough to put too much thought into the cost of parts rather than their performance
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>>51270838
Because the end result is excellent.

Neutral FR, bandwidth of 20Hz-16kHz.

No insertion depth peak in the high treble.
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>>51270826
Eh, 100 is a lot better than spending thousands on high end equipment, and probably cheaper than it'd cost to rent the stuff also.

Decent idea for a start up, if someone did it, I'd probably do pay too.
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>>51270866
>>51270868
Never called the quality of the device into question. Just saying that it can be done and even if people take them apart they won't be turned off.
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>>51270893
depends entirely on their marketing strategy and their ability to damage control, imo
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http://www.amazon.com/Westone-TRUE-FIT-STAR-Combo-Audiophile/dp/B00DD2BZRY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1447114782&sr=8-3&keywords=earphone+tips

will these fit audio technica earphones?
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Can someone recommend me headphones for my wife's son?

He likes bass.
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>>51270960
beats

no seriously, if he got something like m50x he'd literally get laughed at and bullied

beats solo2 are actually rather good and have good bass
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>>51270960
>your wife's son
wait, he's not yours??
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>>51270969
>>51270960
I wouldnt say beats solo 2 are good
i've given them a very good listen, i absolutely hate such nigger bass, however in terms of whethor not he'll seem cool wearing them is a different matter. If he is an audiophile or interested in good headphones, say so and that opens up a new conversation as he'll hate getting beats if he cares about audio. However if he's just a fucking normie faggot then like... who cares, he just wants beats to look gud.
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>>51271053
measurements of beats solo2 aren't bad and your subjective impressions of them mean nothing here

>i absolutely hate such nigger bass
then you're probably the wrong person to be giving recommendations if the kid likes bass
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SOUNDMAGIC E10 VS JVC HA FX40 GO
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>>51271089
>HA FX40
I own this, don't buy it because it has fatiguing treble, like it makes DT880 sound pleasing to listen to compared to this piece of shit.
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>>51271104
DT880 are pleasing to listen to
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>>51271073
dude
no fucking normie cares about the measurements, beats are the thing you wear so nobody thinks you are a poorfag
also the measurements may be sub par and greatly improved from prior models, however they are still not up to my personal tastes and I prefer either complete flat or flat bass with a hint of brightness in upper mids and highs
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>>51271127
kek no
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>>51271129
ok cool, nobody cares about your preferences

beats are a good suggestion to the kid, regardless of whether he's trying to fit in with the normies or try to be a pseudo-intellectual 'audiophile'

>>51271142
kek yes, they're bright in the 8-9khz region instead of something actually ear rapey like the hd800.

hd800, beyer tesla series, grados, dt990
dt880 is pleasant compared to that other ear rape shit
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>>51271104
Any other suggestions for sub 20 bucks? I have 100 dollar sennheisers iems that hurt my ears and jvc ha rx700 but need portables. also have monoprice 8320s but lost an earbud and they're tanglecity.
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>>51271185
piston 3
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>>51271163
>bright
>pleasing

It ain't as bright as the HD800 because of the spectral balance of music, at 8-9kHz on the DT880, it just makes things like cymbals and percussion seem enhanced and louder, but the real problem is sibilance on the DT880.
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>>51271192
Seconded.
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>>51271194
the HD800 is highly sibilant what are you talking about

http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm

HD800 peaks basically sit right on that sibilance line

some DT880 may push into that piercing section but it depends on the music

neither of these are problems if you know how to EQ
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>>51271197
>>51271192
http://www.mi.com/quantie/
aw shit
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>>51270654
>>51270634
>>51270622
xb pads on stax? bretty cool

>>51270672
they're good, fairly neutral but can be moderately bassy with eq. you won't get the outright big boomy bass of m50. it really depends on what level of bass you want, but if the m40x is not enough I would sooner recommend the CAL or pro80. the m50 are overly bassy and fatiguing. if you want basshead levels of bass get the 681-evo.

>>51270763
>>51271089
pretty much every JVC IEM is v-shaped with what I would consider fatiguing highs. if you can stand that they're good value for money and have nice bass but I just can't get past the highs. If you want something cheap get the hje-120k or m6 which are cheap, bassy and not fatiguing, or move up to the 450k and piston 3 which are more balanced and detailed.
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>>51271253
man i thought that hipster guy was shia labouf for a second in the video
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>>51271220
They gave a range for sibilant, trust me, I have owned both, the HD800 is brighter and fatiguing because of the 6kHz peak but the DT880 is no doubt more sibilant.
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>>51271253
measures like shit apparently. huge dip in the upper mids iirc. most hybrids have a problem like that.
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>>51271281
i have auditioned the HD800 a number of times (in fact it's the only thing i can audition in my area) and they were much harsher, more sibilant and uncomfortable to listen to for longer periods.

don't forget that the ears are most sensitive to frequencies around 4khz and 6khz is much closer to that than 8-9khz
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>>51271295
source?

also just because they look the same as those other hybrids put out by the same designer/affiliated company doesn't mean they sound or measure the same
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>>51271305
>don't forget that the ears are most sensitive to frequencies around 4khz and 6khz is much closer to that than 8-9khz
I am aware of that, not to mention the spectral balance of music which was a point I mentioned earlier.

Sibilance is just a trait of the DT880 where it is greater than the HD800 (which is also sibilant but not as much as the DT880).

I do think that the DT880 is the better headphone however.
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guys what are the best anime watching headphones?
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>>51271375
i can agree with that.

hopefully the 800S can change my mind about the pricing because as of right now the hd800 price is not justified at all
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>227 posts
>30 IPs
lol
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>>51270938
>will these fit audio technica earphones
Which ones? Probably not though.

>>51270868
>No insertion depth peak in the high treble.
Yes there is, what are you talking about?

>>51270775
>as soon as they find out it's EQ they'll just go on about how it sounds bad and whatnot
Joe Bloggs had a cute little experiment doing that with some cheapo IEMs and a convolver.
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>>51271608
>Yes there is, what are you talking about?
past 10kHz?
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guys i just want to know what the best headphones are for watching cute girls do cute things
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>>51271662
HD 600.
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>>51271662
calibrating your monitor
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>>51271650
Tip dependent, and it is still audible. Contributes to the slightly rough quality of the ER-4S, it is somewhat peaky up there.

>>51270804
>Person sends in any headphones, pays 100-200, you mail them back with an EQ file + measurements.
I remember someone in Britain who offered that as a service. I wonder if he still does.
I just sent my shit to Tyll for free, he even pays for shipping.

>>51270718
>>51270775
The link
>http://www.head-fi.org/t/726569/
>I offer a new challenger that aims to not approximate, not equal, but exceed the UERM. And not for $99, but a fraction of the price.
>I have applied digital acoustic compensation [convolution of EQ through Viper4Android] to $5 and $10 buds ... and have them reported as sounding like $200 and $500 respectively from industry insiders and audiophiles kept in the dark about their real identity.
>We decide to concentrate on the "supreme" mode, not only because it delivers by far the best sound quality, but also because (according to Joe) Somic plan to release their own version of V4A with optimization filters for Somic earphones built in.
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>>51270516
Aren't beats an apple product now or something
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>>51271323
It's was a few hpg's back, I didn't save the link it was from a chinese site. and if you're talking about the piston, it's not a hybrid, just a dynamic designed in a very specific way. the quantie is a dynamic/ba hybrid.
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>>51271946
i meant the quantie

the other company who designed them for xiaomi had released identical ones some time back and people are asssuming they're identical (the other ones measured poorly like you described)

as the quantie come out on the 11th im not sure how measurements would otherwise be out already
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>>51271761
ive already done that actually

>>51271673
really though?
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>>51271970
>really though?
cute girls doing cute things sound best in high fidelity
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>>51270522
>How are you going to DF EQ the $5 headphones
DF EQ is the flat EQ for headphones. What you are saying is that it is not possible to EQ something to near flat by ear.
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>>51272063
Essentially

Not even trained listeners are going to be able to pick out 1-2dB differences
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>>51271662
cd900st, not even trolling.
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>>51270654
Those are the same pads I used on my Fostex T30, maximum comfy.
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>Which poorfag tier headphones won't make a person look like a knob?

Thinking of buying some for travelling to work/uni
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Between the Audio-Technica M50x and the MSR7, does the difference in quality justify the price difference(165 and 210)? Also, is there anything closed and over ear better for $250 and under?
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>>51272252
B&W P5
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>>51272254
totally. the m50x is not worth over $150 in the first place, the m40x sounds better. the msr7 is the direct upgrade from the m40x.

>>51272252
IEMs
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>>51272087
>Not even trained listeners are going to be able to pick out 1-2dB differences
>A trained listener is able to detect frequency response deviations of a loudspeaker from flat within few decibels.
Uh huh.
You might be able to guess the headphone, without even being given the raw.
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>>51272254
M50x are not worth buying if they're over $100
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>>51272254
>closed
It's [CURRENT YEAR] I mean come on.
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>>51272270
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>>51272254
>Also, is there anything closed and over ear better for $250 and under?
DT250 80ohm
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>>51272294
Any that you personally recommend?
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>>51272351
A&K Layla, JH16, Shure 846, Piston 3
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