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Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners

If you are serious about switching to Linux, use it exclusively for 2 weeks, avoid windows dual booting for that period of time, or you are likely to start retreating back to windows instead of getting used to linux as your new home and working on making it feel comfortable

You can safely experience installation process and the basic usage through a virtual machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33sFFhgkWk [Embed]

>Recommended for Beginners:
Mint, Xubuntu, openSUSE

>Learn to RTFM - Read The Friendly Manual
man <insert command here>

>Resources:
google
/r/linux4noobs
/r/linuxquestions
/r/unixporn
http://explainshell.com/
http://www.serverfaqs.com
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-the-command-line
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtK75qxsQaMLZSo7KL-PmiRarU7hrpnwK
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What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic -- refer all your recommended software here, and no, Vivaldi is not recommended in the wiki, because it is objectively shit. this OP is dumb for recommending it.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

There is also scripts for new users from Windows that are heading straight to Debian.
https://github.com/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript
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You were suppose to use this pic OP
>one job
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>>51264219
If it's in the first few posts, it still counts

Plus that's messy as fuck
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Debian + Xfce vs Xubuntu, who wins? Why?
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On Linux the browser forward/backward buttons act on +click. I want them to act like in Windows on -click (release).
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>>51264542
you'll need to be more specific than "the browser"
my file browser, spacefm, moves on press
while my web browser, seamonkey, moves on release
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>>51264215
Not really enough info to say why that failed, could be a number of reasons.
If there is a full build log somewhere then you could post that, might be helpful.

Also, people won't go easy on you because you're new to arch. Pretty much everything you could ask is documented and you're expected to be able to find the answer, through wiki, man pages, google etc.
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>>51264426
>shovel vs hammer, who wins?
It depends on what you're planning to do with it
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I have Arch installed on another computer. Should I stay on that or fuck around and try to actually install gentoo?
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>>51264219
Why would you even talk about zsh to a novice user?
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>>51264897
Use what you want to use and which you think is best and suits you most.
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>>51264219
Fixed it.
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>>51264932
Whoops, supposed to replace cairo-dock with plank.
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>>51264932
get rid of dolphin, it's pulls in most of kde as dependencies. Replace with spacefm.
Remove "cult based" bullshit from mpv.
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>>51264956
Wouldn't thunar/pcmanfm be a better replacement?
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>>51264920
Honestly it I have no preference at this point. I've been using Arch on my main conputer for a little under a week, and it's been alright, thanks to the wiki being more help than googling problems ever has.

I only ask because I want to follow through with install gentoo meme. Besides, it would help me learn linux better and actuall learn how to compile shit myself, with the added benefit of getting a little more performance out of my hardware as a side goal. Plus, Gentoo's package manager is supposed to be awesome, from what I've heard.
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Does anyone use an alternate kernel, like Zen or ck?
Do you think it's worthwhile over pure stock?
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>>51264985
ck is placebo.
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>>51264969
thunar maybe but not pcmanfm, spacefm is much better.
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>>51264811
General usage, i.e. internet, development, films, torrenting etc

Is either one bloated? (guessing Xubuntu would be)
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>>51264201
Does nvidia's superior linux performance extends to WINE as well?
I will 100% commit to linux if I'm able to get better performance in LoL with nvidia gpu.
Currently I'm running a 270X and it runs at 30% frames it does in Windows which makes it laggy.
Will I get better performance with nvidia?
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>>51264981
Gentoo/funtoo is objectively better than arch so if you're interested in it then go for it, it's not much more difficult and everything is documented. Yes, the package manager is probably the best there is.

By the way, you probably won't learn how to compile anything by using gentoo. Using portage to compile something is no more involved than using pacman to install something, it's all done for you.
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win10 is annoying
installing arch right now, what desktop environment should I install? not sure if that matters, but I obviously want to customize stuff and I want it to be/look "minimalstic" (compared to win)
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>>51265002
it's hard to say
while opengl performance is best on nvidia proprietary, free drivers have access to native direct3d9 support, which can be used with wine to avoid opengl>direct3d9 translation overhead
in such cases, the free radeon driver can pull ahead
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>>51265039
Go for arch and i3. Arch is customizable af and for minimalism i3 is configurable as fuck so you can make it look as you need it to
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>>51264561
firefox specifically
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>>51264985
I use zen right now for the liquorix patch. I kind of like it but I am testing something particularly and so far as far as general performance goes it's not much different from vanilla linux.

BFS can make things seem a bit snappier but the default scheduler is pretty good these days and I personally agree that it is more or less placebo now. ck's patches have had a rocky time over the last 6 months or so with many problems, some very serious. It seems he's not very active right now either, his patches haven't been updated by him for a while now. The maintainer of pf kernel is version bumping the BFS patch for his kernel, but again, stability risk kind of outweighs the pros of it.
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Dafuq is this...
Install worked only in nomodeset

Arch Linux
CPU: Intel Pentium D 820
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 210
Motherboard:MS 7255
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>>51265028
>Gentoo/funtoo is objectively better than arch
Good, because I had someone shitposting in the previous thread saying that there was "universal consensus" that Arch was better than Gentoo.

>By the way, you probably won't learn how to compile anything by using gentoo. Using portage to compile something is no more involved than using pacman to install something, it's all done for you.

Disappointing, but that's life. Oh well.

>>51265002
I don't know. I honestly think I took a performance hit moving to Linux, but I'm playing on a veritable toaster since I'm too much of a cheap bastard to upgrade my computer. I definately have the money to do it, I just can't justify doing it because I alone among my group of friends couldn't actually give a shit how my games look.
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>>51264956
>>51264932
>>51264219
Revision 2
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>>51265082
P.S
After rebooting into system after installing this shit appeared..
Windows works, but I prefer Linux over Windows in programming
Anybody who helps, will get karma points ;)
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>>51265097
>saying that there was "universal consensus" that Arch was better than Gentoo.
No, complete nonsense written by some arch fanboy who never used gentoo.

>>51265097
Not sure why you would really need to know this. I mean, it's not hard, it's just convoluted to do manually. If you have the dependencies installed then it's just a case of "make && sudo make install". It can vary with different build tools but that's all there is to it. The pain is getting all the right dependencies and the correct versions. You can look through gentoo ebuilds and see what goes on if you like, you can make your own too, I suppose that requires you to understand the build process.
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>>51265082
why did u run nomodset when arch doesn't have a flashy high-res logo
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>>51265099
Looks pretty good.
Maybe add ardour for music editors.
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Hey guys I have a strange problem on Chromium.
I needed to make a loader for page so when it finishes loading it removes loader animation and shows the page and thats ok except the google map which is on the page doesnt get loaded. The frame is there , but map itself is blank.
Now hear this , when I zoom in/out page the map instantly appears?!!
What a hell do I do to make this load properly?
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Is Debian Stretch stable and secure enough to use as a server distro?

>>51265099
Someone tidy this fucker up so we can actually use it in /flt/ threads and not look like shitters
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>>51265174
Testing it's the least secure branch of Debian.
So no, don't use it for server, use stable.
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HI /g/. I have installed the arch, xfce with compton, but the fonts in firefox is so disguting.

How do I improve it? What is the best font renderer?It is to let the browser displaying fonts such as OS X?
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>>51265199
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration/fontconfig_examples
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>>51265199
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162098
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>>51265142
My gaymes will still run on Gentoo, correct? Hate to get all the way through the install and have none of my shit working.
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>>51265174
If only the previous OP is smart he would change it, but he's too dumb.
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>>51265223
What games?
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>>51264219
>>51264932
>>51265099
autisms intensify
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>>51265113
>karma
>>>/r/linuxquestions
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>>51265199
Either make your own fontconfig or install infinality bundle if you just want a quick fix.
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>>51265242
Oh, hello, previous OP. Have you removed Vivaldi botnet from your list of "recommended browsers" yet?
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>>51265253
>quicker than pasting a fontconfig
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>>51265242
>do the leg work
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>>51265211
>>51265218
>>51265253

Thanks, folks. I will try.
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>>51265236
Native Linux games (CSGO, TF2, Civ 5, Minecraft) and playonlinux shit that only half works as it is.
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>>51265170
No idea
loglevel=7 showed that triggering uvents hangs on usb hub and shit

So, using integrated graphics fixed that weird text shit
Why geforce 210 doesn't want to work with it?
And btw my PC doesn't work with my GTX
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Just want to thank the guy who started this thread series, good work dude, I was there from the first thread and wasn't sure if it would last but you were persistent enough and this was a popular enough subject that it did.
Have a nice picture of a watch from the watch thread.
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>>51265301
If they have ebuilds then they should work. Wine works pretty good but I don't use games so don't know, if they work in arch then they'll work in gentoo. Maybe make sure you use the staging USE flag for wine.

http://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=minecraft

You might need to use some 3rd party overlays but that's easy enough.
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>>51265353
Thank you. It was really hard but I did it.
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>>51265268
>quicker than letting pacman replace a few packages
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>>51265523
Yeah it is
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>>51265536
Sure thing buddy
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>>51265570
Ok, glad we got that sorted.
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>>51265211
>>51265218
>>51265253

Much better. It was not 100%. I will gradually trying to set up the rest.

Once again, thank you! :D
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>>51265621
Use some better fonts, the croscore ones render very well.
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>update Arch
>it breaks
Updated to Linux 4.3 plus my NVIDIA 304xx drivers and suddenly after rebooting Xorg complains that the kernel module failed to loaded (even though the package is supposed to work with 4.3). Reverted to linux-lts for now.

Anyone made the same experience and was able to fix that? If so, how?
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.>>51265785
How's the bleeding edge treating you?
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>>51265785
Figure out what the problem is then. Make sure there is a module and check to see if there are any steps you need to do.
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I need help with a command:
In the terminal,
cat > nameOfTextFile.txt
makes nameOfTextFile.txt and allows input into that file, without going into vim. After making the desired edits, how do you leave this editing mode? I tried Googling an answer but I don't have a succinct way of wording this.
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>>51265785
Had the same thing. Installer couldn't compile dkms mod because no kernel source of current kernel in the repo. Reverted to first kernel that did. (Headers)
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>>51265861
never mind, I found it. It's Ctrl + D.
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>>51265861
Oh nice, didn't you know you could do that.
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>>51265358
>If you're a NEET with literally nothing else to do you might be able to rush a Gentoo installation in at least 24 hours; if you're a busy person with a day job and friends, it might take you over an entire week to set everything up. On a 2014-semi-modern quad core CPU with 8 GB of RAM, setting up the minimum system (the stage-3 tarball + Portage snapshot) will take you about an hour, compiling the kernel an hour and a half (assuming you're cheating with genkernel instead of undertaking a manual compilation and fixing an endless series of kernel panics), finishing your basic installation another hour, installing the graphical interface at least 2 hours (because the GUI is an optional component in Gentoo), and installing Google Chrome or Firefox at least 4 hours each while the entire software compiles from source code. And that's assuming you're the luckiest person in the world and don't run into a single problem, pitfall or having to mess with a poorly documented system component -- if this happens, add at least another 4 hours. Oh, and if you're planning on using a LUKS volume, add another 24 hours while your system fills a 750 GB disk with pseudorandom data using four concurrent jobs to exploit your four CPU cores.

Is this an exaggeration?
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>>51265919
>Is this an exaggeration?
Yes, it's nonsense. I have a core2duo and most of the times listed there are quicker for me. There's no need to compile firefox, there is a binary for it (it does take long to compile yourself because it's one of the most complex pieces of software on any computer). Compiling Chrome? Yeah good luck finding the source for that.
Took me about a day to install funtoo. Who cares any way? You can use a live environment like ubuntu until it's finished anyway so you can read, listen to music, watch videos etc, it's not that much of a big deal and needs to only be done once in your whole life.
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>>51265785
>Updated to Linux 4.3
What? Arch is still on 4.2.5.
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>>51264956
>our cult doesn't appreciate the way you describe our affinity for mpv
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>>51265785
>he used testing repo
Your fault.
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>>51264201
I did the try it for two weeks thing, and haven't used a Windows os (or osx) for more than two years. Honestly people who bitch about drivers must not understand something...? I've never had a driver issue, and I am a semi gaymer. it's faster, lighter, more customizable. Literally wins in every category EXCEPT gayming and a few enterprise specific applications. Do it.fuck windows.
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>>51265785
>4.3
I'm pretty sure you're using the testing repo then. Get what you expect: Arch Blooding Bleeding Edgy Edge
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>>51266122
Tbf I've probably been on Linux longer than most people here (2005) and it's not like the driver situation was always rosy.
I've seen some shit.

Things are way better now than they were, thankfully. Especially with nvidia and wifi drivers.
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>>51265825
Well on the one hand it's nice to have the latest version of a program/the kernel almost immediately available (especially for media players that's a plus) but on the other hand shit breaks, especially Xorg stuff. I hate that piece of shit. But at least for now I'm gonna jump off the testing repos since shit broke too often for now.

>>51265849
http://pastebin.com/fbJMHxrV

But for right now I'm just staying away from the testing repo and gonna downgrade. Not worth the hassle.

>>51265866
But there are headers for 4.3-1?
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/x86_64/linux-headers/

>>51266030
Testing repo m8

>>51266103
>>51266141
Yep and for that reason I'm gonna jump off that train for now.
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POPCORN TIME IS BACK!

http://popcorn-time.se/
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>>51266186
>http://pastebin.com/fbJMHxrV
I don't know why you're posting that here, I didn't ask for it. If you use arch testing repos then you should be able to troubleshoot this yourself and at least see where the problem is (and then report it, seeing as that is the whole point of testing).
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>>51266228
>.se
No.
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>>51266228
lol no it isn't idiot
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>>51266229
Well I had to be on testing for a while since I suffered from a kernel regression and therefore wanted to be able to use a fixed kernel without waiting to hit core. I never really bothered changing it back. But otherwise this is the FRIENDLY Linux Thread, so you don't need to be a dick?
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>>51266279
Friendly is not an excuse to be dumb enough to use testing if you have no idea what you're doing.
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>>51266279
Where exactly was I being a dick?
You seem to be mistaking 'friendly' for 'spoon-feeding'.
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>>51265919
yes

There are some things with insane compile times. I thought installing gnome3 would take forever, and it did, but mostly because it pulled in python2.7 and python 3.4. I would have installed those as binaries if I had known how long and how much of a % of the total time they would take.

Running into problems and inconsistencies are the real time drag, because you can waste time setting something up only to end up with some broken tools. If you only break non-essential stuff compiling is just a background task. The biggest problems I've had with gentoo are getting dumb shit like theming and UI consistencies to work as they should, becuase those are things I don't really know anything about.

It's important to know your hardware. Genkernel is good and should make sure you can boot, but if you want to compile a kernel yourself or have some wacky hardware like certain wifi things or a newer special gpu, you might have problems with those.

gentoo will definitely will eat up a lot of your time, but as a hobbyist endeavor it''s really cool. I wouldn't say you don't learn anything about compiling, either, because while the package system is basically a bunch of scripts that compile things for you, seeing it work helps you understand what its' doing better, and having a better understanding of linux and compiling helps you make it work better. It definitely helps a novice without any experience or understanding of how open source shit actually turns into things running break into doing it for themselves.

Even if you let emerge handle all compilation for you, you can still learn about compiling the kernel. Genkernel will do it for you and give you a .config file for it that is known to work, so you can use that as a starting point.
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>>51266298
>if you have no idea what you're doing.
I reverted m8. I'm not completely dumb, I just asked if anyone on here had the same problem and knew how to fix that since I don't necessarily expect this to be a bug.

>>51266301
I was just asking if anyone had the same problem and was able to help me. Right now I googled up the problem and a few people reported the bug (not in the Arch repo but on the NVIDIA forums e.g.), so what do you expect me to do here?
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>>51265919
>>51266306
oh and the stuff about browsers is bullshit. Firefox probably takes forever to compile, but there's an ebuild package for an already compiled firefox binary. There's also chromium, google-chrome, and others like opera12, opera-beta (chropera, v33), a seamonkey binary, and vivaldi. Gnome3 comes with epiphany ("web") which apparently doesn't take long to compile.

and even without those you could always just extract a binary package inside of your home folder. Open sourced shit should have a compressed tar file like .tar.gz available, and proprietary shit usually just zips up its bin for you to use in addition to distro-specific packages
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How would y'all recommend making a backup?
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>>51266394
dd
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How do I set up my new Debian server so that I can access it from outside my LAN, and I can't change my router settings because my ISP is a triple jew faggot?
Is there any way I can do it just using Debian?
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>>51266247
>>51266268
Yes it is, GO FUCK YOURSELF MPAA SHILL
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>>51266379
>Right now I googled up the problem and a few people reported the bug (not in the Arch repo but on the NVIDIA forums e.g.)
So you could have found the answer yourself with some research.
>so what do you expect me to do here?
Not ask inane questions when you can easily find the answer yourself.
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>>51266409
>I can't change my router settings
>Is there any way I can do it just using Debian?
No
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>>51266387
That latter stuff isn't really true, it assumes you have the dependencies and the correct version/package names installed, which is more of a pain in the ass than it might first appear to be.
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>>51266432
>inane questions
You're a fucking idiot. I specifically ask in a Linux thread dedicated to Linux newcomers and you accuse me of being lazy while the rest of the thread consists of even easier or almost obsolete questions? I mean what is even the purpose of this thread in this case if 95% of the questions on here could be answered with a Google search? I mean if no one bothered so far to have a solution/cause for my question it can't be this obsolete.

To cheer you up, I found the answer: It's a kernel/driver problem since the two symbols got removed in 4.3, so I have to patch the kernel it seems, hope NVIDIA patched the drivers or for now just revert...
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>>51266634
>you accuse me of being lazy
Yes I did because
>I found the answer
There you go. As I said before, if you play with Arch Testing then you should be able to at least search google for an answer or bug report before asking random anons on an image board.
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>>51266421
Have fun with that botnet bro. Do you know much about the history of that domain?
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>>51266674
>if you play with Arch Testing then you should be able to at least search google for an answer or bug report before asking random anons on an image board.
So asking if other people had the same problem is a problem for you? There was ONE thread on Google pointing out it's due to the kernel (with a different distro; which fixed the issue with an kernel update on their side appereantly) and if I ask for the experience of other users you say I'm not entitled to post here? What's even your problem?
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>>51266896
>What's even your problem?
You could solve the problem on your own, and you did.
You didn't even know how to begin troubleshooting the problem, when told how to start you post a log rather than doing what was suggested.
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>>51266898
Epic, thanks for sharing.
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>>51266933
>You could solve the problem on your own, and you did.
>You didn't even know how to begin troubleshooting the problem
???
>when told how to start you post a log rather than doing what was suggested.
Because asking for help is now considered a bad thing? As I said, what's even the purpose of this thread then? I mean the nvidia packages is listed to work with Linux 4.3, which apparently after some digging isn't, so?
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>>51266896
>use arch testing
>gets problem
>first reaction is asking on 4chan
You kind of set yourself up for this man.
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>>51266981
It was suggested that you check a few things and your reply was to post an irrelevant log.
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>>51266953
No problem dude
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>>51266186
>Testing repo
>get shocked when something breaks
>on testing
freaking mememaster.
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>>51266228
popcorn-time.se is malware, popcorntime.io was the only trustful fork.
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>>51266992
Why not? People do this here all the time.

>>51267015
You told me to check for the module and see if there are any steps to do. If you would've read the log you would've noticed that there was a module and the googleing the listed problems lead me to googling the mentioned errors, resulting in one thread which basically tells me to patch the kernel or just update their distro (which I'm not using, duh).

>>51267066
Alright, I'm leaving this thread. Fuck your cancerous community that only gets salty if I'm asking if anyone HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND FOUND A FIX. It's not like I was stuck here and waited for copy-paste solutions, just if anyone figured out the problem better than I did. Next time I'm asking on IRC channels and Arch forums because appereantly testing is that much of a secret club, even though the problem here is MAINLINE kernel which is not even in beta/RC state you fucks.
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>>51266421
You're so naive that it's actually kinda cute.
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>>51267112
k bye
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>>51267082
http://popcorn-time.se/source.html

heres the source, where is the malware exactly?
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>>51267112
>googling the mentioned errors, resulting in one thread which basically tells me to patch the kernel or just update their distro
Ok so you solved it yourself, as you should have done in the first place. If you're not capable of doing this then don't use distros/repos which require you to have some self initiative and knowledge.
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>>51267112
There's a reason why it hasn't leave testing even through it was release more than a week ago you faggot.
Now get out, you fucking faggot.
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>>51267132
lol you're embarrassing yourself.
Did you diff the source with the original (trustworthy) source? Guessed not.
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>>51267132
You really don't know the story about that domain don't you?
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>>51267177
You are the one claiming something. Burden of proof is on you.
Did you diff it against the original? Guessed not.
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>>51267199
No, you're claiming it is safe and not untrustworthy, which is the general opinion and would be yours too if you knew the history of that domain. The burden of proof lies in your hands.
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>>51267199
You're the one claiming stuff here.
Everyone else is telling you do your research, that fork is been known since ages and everyone here could tell you the reason but nobody is going to spoonfeed you.
Now you're free to A. do your research and listen, or B. ignore advice and be a faggot.

Again nobody is going to spoonfeed you here.
Nice try though
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>>51267256
>You're the one claiming stuff here.
nope.

This is what you claim:
>popcorn-time.se is malware, popcorntime.io was the only trustful fork.

So provide proof that its malware.
If you feel to argue still, then provide proof that original version was not malware.

You got yourself trapped in your own claims there.

I have not claimed anything, I pointed to the source and asked you to prove your claims.
>>
Does anyone here use powertop or tlp? Is there any reason to use both or is just one enough?

And how does powertop work with systemd?

>>51267291
This. The faggot should really prove it is malware or just stfu.
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>>51267319
>This. The faggot should really prove it is malware or just stfu.
>implying you're not the samefag
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>>51267291
Nice try, ill give a hint since you're trying so hard compare the version of the so called source code and the version of the binaries.
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>>51267340
Sure dipshit, by some massive coincidence everyone who disagrees with your retarded crap is a samefag. Well discovered, faggot, yes of course I am a samefag. Only one person on here thinks you're a massive fucktard.
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>>51267319
>>51267291
S A M E F A G
A
M
E
F
A
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>>51267375
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>>51267380
Nice inspect element you got there, samefag.
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>>51267369
First, calm that butthurt, you're obviously samefagging, secondly that anon you're replying to isn't the one who told you the truth.

Now please stop shilling your crap without knowing the facts, seriously, refrain from posting.
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>>51267319
>>51267291
>>51267369
>>51267380
samefag
(nice shop by the way)
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wtf you guys:

posted to the old thread
>>51267352
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>>51267380
in those few seconds?
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>>51267405
>wtf you guys
wtf what?
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>>51267177
>>51267192
>>51267238
>>51267256
>>51267340
>>51267347
GO FUCK YOURSELF MPAA
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>>51267291
https://torrentfreak.com/popcorn-time-warns-users-against-malware-and-scams-150707/
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>>51267414
no don't btfo him too quickly, I wanted to mess with him a while longer
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>>51267427
ok samefag, whatever you say
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>>51267375
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>>51267414
Nice script to auto-hide the samefagging, samefag.
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>>51267380
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>>51267427
>Gets the so called prof he always wanted here: >>51267347
>Gets desperate
>Start samefagging as hard as possible
>Finally decides to insult and avoid all reason

Nice one shill.
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>>51267444
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>>51267427
That slide design is disgusting.
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>>51267438
>In addition, the Popcorn Time team explains that they are not affiliated with the Porn Time app or the Popcorn-Time.se fork. While these clients are by no means harmful, the myriad of alternatives often causes confusion.
>these clients are by no means harmful
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>>51267442
>>51267444
>>51267449
lol busted
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>>51267424

there are at least 3 friendly linux threads atm.
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>>51267462
Stop changing your font render and shopping, samefag.
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>>51267438
>In addition, the Popcorn Time team explains that they are not affiliated with the Porn Time app or the Popcorn-Time.se fork. While these clients are by no means harmful, the myriad of alternatives often causes confusion.
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>>51267291
I hate to link from plebbit, but here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PopCornTime/comments/2lyxnm/time4popcorn_popcorntimese_now_includes_adware_do/
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>>51267485
I'm gonna btfo you again, funniest thing now would be for that guy to show his own screenfetch and rek your fucking ugly ass sideways (again)

I have a feeling you might not even believe me until I pastebin my package list, which I will do if i have to, i am literally that idle right now
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FUCK YOU MPAA

POPCORN TIME IS NOT DOWN.
The original site is JUST being blocked, AND the alternative is not affiliated BUT IS NOT MALWARE!
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>>51267508
I wouldn't worry, I'm sure he feels quite at home there.
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>>51267517
See: >>51267347
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>>51267515
So? That doesn't prove anything. You're still samefagging.
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>>51264995
Xubuntu is a bit, it's no trouble removing excess bloat though
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>>51267517
lul wut m8
>blocked
top kek
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>>51267540
It will prove it when that other guy does his own screenfetch and shows we're not the same person you complete dumbfuck

Or are you that paranoid that you think people would waste time shooping their screenfetch just to prove a niglet like you wrong on a taiwanese chickpea eating board
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>>51267566
>people would waste time shooping their screenfetch
Exactly what you're trying to do right now.
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>>51267566
First, Screenfetch allows you to change your distro, logo, etc by issuing a few options, secondly yes, you fucking say it yourself here >>51267515
>i am literally that idle right now
>>
I'm looking for a very small and lean arm live-cd. The smallest I'm seeing right now is the gentoo stage 3 image at 200 mb.
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>>51267607
Puppy Linux
Damn Small Linux

Also why? why do you care about space?
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>>51267607
stage3 isn't a live cd
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>>51267590
When you change that distro option the number of packages changes to 0, you fucklet, try it now, go ahead i'll be here

nice attempt to wriggle out of this now
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>>51267607
Tiny core linux not this deprecated >>51267636 shit
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>>51267638
Which you will shop the same way you did before.
nice try nsa shill
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>>51267638
>im grasping at straws here
>>
Has anyone ever used the CentOS installer without letting it build the hard disk layout for you?

I have the a system with the current disk layout:
software-raid-6(
/boot
LUKS(
LVM(
/
/home
/some/other/mountpoints
)
)
)



I'd like to install CentOS instead of what I run now (i.e. I'd like to install CentOS in the root partition inside the LVM without formatting the entire raid array). I'm afraid the installer will dick over my data or will otherwise not cooperate. If it matters, it's the partition type is GPT. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks
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I'm trying to install Mint on a separate SSD, but Grub won't recognize the Windows 7 drive I already have. I've already reinstalled Mint once, OS-prober gives nothing, and I've even tried swapping which drive goes into which SATA-port on the motherboard.

The only thing I have left to try is reinstalling Windows 7 using UEFI instead of BIOS, because apparently that can make Grub unable to find it. Does anybody know if this will actually fix the problem, or if there's something else I need to do?

I don't know why having the OS' on separate drives would be such a problem, surely it's not an uncommon thing to do.
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>>51267754
dual booting is shit and always has been shit

ditch windows, we all went through that withdrawal phase, it's better for you if you do it early instead of waiting about 8 years like i did (though linux was in a shit state 8 years ago so i had an excuse)
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>>51267638
Nice try shill
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Does anyone here use powertop or tlp? Is there any reason to use both or is just one enough?

And how does powertop work with systemd?
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>>51267319
>>51268004
Get out faggot, nobody is going to help a shill like you.
Get rekt LMAO
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>>51268004
samefag
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>>51267754
have you tried mounting your windows drive before running osprober?
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>>51268020
If they do, will you please kill yourself? I don't think /g/ can handle that autism in one day.
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>>51268053
Only after you.
>I don't think /g/ can handle that autism in one day.
Fucking newfags i swear
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>>51266186
No funny stuff when installing nvidia-current via term?
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>>51268029
get a life loser
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>>51268020
You're taking this incredibly seriously.
>people shouldn't ask for help if you suspect them of samefagging

I guess you're missing being able to report people on reddit who disagree with you, right? Feel free to go back there and leave this place for good.
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>>51267637
Anything that puts me in a terminal is fine.
>>51267636
Because I don't want to download 200 mb just to run a single program in a terminal.

It turned out that just using
qemu-arm helloworld

did it.
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>>51268403
>Anything that puts me in a terminal is fine.
Good luck doing that with a stage3.
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171G 09.11.2015 22:35 startxfce4.log.1


what the fuck?!
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>>51268679
tail it and find out
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Why is xorg such a pain to configure if you want more than basic functionality?

I'm running the radeon driver because I have an old laptop with an old laptop IGP. I can't get DRI3 to work, even though it should be hardware independent. I can't get it to vsync, or if it IS vsyncing, it's causing shit performance. Compositing isn't that intense. What the actual fuck, guys?
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>>51268699
had to delete because system was unusable. maybe it will blow up again
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>>51268716
Are you sure your driver supports all that?
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>>51268745
radeon is the only driver that supports this hardware. radeon in general supports DRI3.

I have three API's for dri/compositing available, XAA, EXA, and Glamor. There don't seem to be any differences.

Furthermore, there's no clear way to set VSync. Thorough googling has turned up that some options are only in certain situations, like full-screen 3d apps (like games, not like compiz).

There are only two real indications to me that I'm not getting full performance out of the hardware: Fades between backgrounds in mdm are jerky as shit. And, When I open an application like chrome, There's a transparent "distortion" before the window just appears fullsize.

I'm being nitpicky, I know. doesn't mean I'm wrong...
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>>51268905
>I'm being nitpicky, I know. doesn't mean I'm wrong...
No one said you are wrong but
>in general
isn't what I asked.
Check what your specific driver supports.
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>>51264201
Thunar looks like shit with my current WM, any other decent file manager?
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>>51268988
I listed in that post what my driver supports. I know for a fact it can do DRI3, XAA, EXA, glamor, etc. I've googled the shit out of how to enable DRI3 but the two methods of listing the option in xorg.conf don't work

So I suppose my question is, is DRI3 supported on any hardware supported by a given driver?
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>>51269040
Set a GTK theme then moron.
Or use spacefm but that too will look shit if you haven't got a semi decent GTK theme set.
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So I'm gonna install debian on my desktop computer. I want to use a tiling WM, awesome seems nice but the configuration seems daunting. What other WMs are nice and easy to configure? I use two monitors.
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>>51269055
>I listed in that post what my driver supports.
No, you said "in general".
>is DRI3 supported on any hardware supported by a given driver?
As I said, check what your driver supports. The xorg website has lists of what each driver and card supports.
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>>51268004
https://fedoramagazine.org/saving-laptop-power-with-powertop/
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>>51269091
i3 is easy and so is bspwm.
Awesome isn't that hard.
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>>51268309
>After hours he still doesn't realize everyone is trolling him for having a stupid opinion
top kek
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>>51269116
>Awesome isn't that hard.
But the configuration is in LUA right? It'd mean I'd either have to learn LUA (no time for that right now) or resort to cut-and-paste when configuring without understanding much of what I'm doing.

What's the main difference between i3 and bspwm?
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>>51269169
>opinion
What opinion? I only agreed with the guy who said you need to prove popcorntime has a backdoor. Burden of proof, little bitch. Anyway make another thread if you want to continue this, don't shit up /flt/ with your cunt sperging.
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>>51269208
>mfw he's still triggered after all this time
Holy shit you're gold.
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>>51269178
You don't have to learn lua, I don't know any code at all but you can see the basic syntax easily enough. Most of what you need to do is either paste-able and adjustable or easy enough to do on your own.
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All right guys I've installed awesome

what do i do now

I want it to look good
not shitty like it does now
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>>51269240
You're the one who just restarted the shit here >>51269169
and I'm the one who's triggered?? Sure, little guy. You're like the faggot who is ready for a fight right up to the moment before the fists start flying.
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>>51269269
You replied to me, i just answered, you're the one who's obviously still mad, i mean im not even insulting, just laughing.
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>>51269254
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome
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>>51269254
follow the wiki
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>>51269276
this is you >>51269169 funny how you're doing the samefagging now

I know exactly why you got triggered, someone answered my question about powertop and that triggered you because you monitoring this thread to make sure I didn't get an answer. You stupid worthless cuntrag.
>>
How about you both shut up instead of going on with this dumb
>no u
>no u
>no u
shitflinging
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>>51269314
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>>51269343
I agree, which is why I asked him to make a thread for this so I can really rip him a new one. It's not fair on the rest of the people who want to read this thread, I wish he had stopped after >>51268064
instead of restarting it >>51269169 here purely because he got mad someone answered my powertop question

watch as he accuses you of being me now
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>>51269387
post your screenfetch to prove it's you
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>>51269424
Still waiting for you to prove you're not a samefag yourself
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>>51269424
This, screenfetch it faggot >>51269387
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>>51269433
Stop samefagging, niglet. >>51269424
I will prove it right after you prove you're not samefagging.
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>>51269424
>>51269432
>>51269433
lol screenfetch
You guys are hilarious.
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>>51269451
Look at the timestamps newfag, you can only post every 60 seconds.
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>>51269278
>>51269305

The wiki is pretty barebones. The transparency settings they have there don't even work and there isn't much else there in the way of actually making it look good.
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>>51269463
And there is a 61 second gap between your 2 posts, dumbfuck
Stop samefagging
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>>51269481
awesome's wiki, not arch's.
What do you want to change anyway?
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I spent a week trying out different distros on vm (fedora, ubuntu, mint, arch, etc), and I can't decide which one to install for daily use.

I liked arch, but I'm worried it's going to break (it already happened twice). Should I give up?
Fedora was alright, but I read somewhere installing non-free software can be a pain. Any way to get around that?

Can anyone suggest me another distro?
>inb4 gentoo
I don't have the time to install it.
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>>51269518
>getting rekt so starts with the spongebob posts
And this is how victory tastes, people.
>>
>I spent a week
>fedora, ubuntu, mint, arch
You literally could have installed gentoo 10 times already.
They all the same underneath it, they provide you binaries, have the same init, have the same kernel more or less, just with a different package manager. What's the big deal? Choose one with the package manager you liked.
>>
>>51266301
There are people here who might not mind helping.You really don't need to try and speak for the rest of us.Withold whatever you want,but vocalizing this kind of shit is simply being a dick.
>>
Two FLT, well I'll post this here too.

So I very recently installed rtorrent + rutorrent and they're working pretty well, but there's a problem.

I'm running them on a home server, and am using NFS to remotely mount the directory where I have all the downlaods, watch and seeding directory for rtorrent so I can just drop torrent files from my desktop straight onto my server and let them run indefinitely on there.

So I've been testing it with a few torrent files and when I add a torrent file to the watch directory, it opens, downloads everything is fine, I then delete the file and data through torrent and try to add the same torrent file again, though that's a no go. rtorrent will not open the same file again, this is different from when I use rtorrent locally, I can delete and re-add files as many times as I want and it just works. Now here's the weird part, if instead of copying those files striaght from my desktop to the /srv/nfs/share/torrents/watch directory but instead just copy them to /srv/nfs/share, then over ssh use cp to move the torrent file to the watch directory, it opens in rtorrent normally, I can delete it and re-add with cp and it loads again. So rtorrent is just not liking when I drop files into it a second time from my desktop, anyone might know why, I changed the permissions on the dir to 777 recursively. I also just mounted the server over ssh in my file manager and copy and paster works like normal there too, it really is just an issue over the NFS.
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>>51269588
I'll repeat: where exactly was I being a dick? I advised how to go about finding the problem.
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>>51269588
There's a general consensus here in /g/ to not spoonfeed, if you want to learn it is your job to do your homework, the other anon did help him giving him everything it's needed.
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>>51269511
debian is my favorite.
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>>51269511
Try openSUSE Leap 42.1 and get one more distro to consider.
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>>51269511
>Fedora was alright, but I read somewhere installing non-free software can be a pain. Any way to get around that?
Try the third party repos, RPM Fusion.

>Can anyone suggest me another distro?
Fedora is fine, go with it, give it a go
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>>51269617
I personally wouldn't use the term "dick". However,you were being an insensitive clod.
>>51269640
>spoonfeed
I thought the purpose of these threads was to help noobs and promote Linux.You guys drove someone away when all you had to do was remain silent.Does the "tough love" game give you a chub?
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>>51269754
One thing is being friendly and another is spoonfeeding.
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>>51269754
>However,you were being an insensitive clod.
Yet again, feel free to point out where.
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>>51269754
>insensitive
Is this reddit now?
Fuck me.
>>
Does anyone know how can I make my monitors run at 120Hz after logging in? Whenever I restart my PC the settings return to 60Hz and I either have to use xrandr or nvidia-settings to get it back up to 120Hz.
I tried setting an xconf.org file, using a bash script to execute xrandr after logging in, putting the xrandr commands in the lightdm conf file. Nothing works.
Any help?
>>
Hey guys completely new user to linux attempting to find the right distro.

For an old laptop any suggestions? Is it the same or are the OP recommendations for modern desktops?
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>>51269810
*xorg.conf
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>>51269816
Try Ubuntu Mate.
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>>51269816
xubuntu will be fine for you.
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>>51267720
I've never let the CentOS installer partition my drives. I've done it manually in text mode and graphical mode installer.

It's pretty straightforward, you just set mount points, tell it which drives to ignore, and if you want to change the partition layout, add or remove partitions. If you don't change the partition table and only set mount points then it doesn't touch any data except for the drives you tell it to format

LUKS and LVM might make it more complicated but CentOS supports both of those so it shouldn't be a problem.

if you're really concerned just test it out in a VM with a blank VM drive that has the same disk layout
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>>51269830
B-But I thought /g/ shits on that.
I wanna make it as comfy and minimalist as possible.
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>>51269830
Stop suggesting Ubuntu desu.
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>>51269859
>comfy and minimalist as possible.
gentoo
>>
This is the nastiest Friendly Linux Thread for a while. Stop being assholes. Don't spoonfeed but then also don't stop others from spoonfeeding if they want to. And don't be pricks.

>>51269816
Usual advice for older laptops is Xubuntu or Lubuntu. Or Debian with LXDE. There isn't a huge difference between *ubuntu and Debian these days.
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>>51269551
>victory
>implying we aren't all losers for being in this thread
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>>51269878
>>51269832
I'll look into Xubuntu thanks guys.
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>>51269859
Those are the whole lot of Desktop Threads.
Try it, you should be fine.

>>51269862
What then?
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>>51269859
You do realize you can do that regarless of the distribution right?
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>>51269895
Debian, openSUSE, Mint, *buntus (Kubuntu is so sweet desu).
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>>51269882
wisest thing you said so far, samefagger

>>51269892
If you go with Xubuntu, look up compton early on, it really should be in the standard install but it isn't for some stupid reason
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>>51269799
>Fuck me.
Do it yourself.
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>>51269930
>Do it yourself.
Oh yeah, because we're all equal now I should be able to fuck myself shouldn't I.
>upboat
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>>51269914
Then why did you said i could not recommend Ubuntu Mate then?
I mean you do realize that 'Ubuntu Mate' it's another flavor of Ubuntu just like Xubuntu right?

inb4 you through i meant "Ubuntu, m8"
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>>51264201
Somewhat new to using Linux as a daily desktop and I have a question about mounting partitions. I'm dualbooting Windows and Antergos. My media(music, videos, pictures, books, etc.) is stored on my Windows partition in the typical locations("My Music," "My Videos," etc.). I've created a symlink to my Windows user folder within my /home directory for sake of easier navigation(especially through terminal). This seems to work just how I expected, except that, upon each boot, the symlink doesn't work until I click on the drive in my file manager and enter my root password. How do I mount the drive upon boot?

Also, I've heard people say it can be "dangerous" to mount your Windows partition in Linux. Is there any basis to that other the potential to accidentally rename system files or name files using characters outside of those accepted by Windows for file names?(|, :, /, etc.)

Also, also. If there isn't a danger, is there any other advantage to moving my media to its own partition? Is mounting my whole Windows partition in any way more taxing on the system than mounting a partition that just has media on it due to file indexing or anything like that?
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>>51269955
pretty sure he thought you meant that
>inb4 i was only pretending to be retarded
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>>51269955
I thought you meant ubuntu mate
>>
>>51269969
Why the fuck are you using a non-mainstream distro then coming here looking for help... baka senpai
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