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Vrei să pleci, dar numă, numă iei,
Numă, numă iei,
Numă, numă, numă iei - Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Out This Week:
Star Wars #18
New Republic: Bloodline (Tue 3rd)
Poe Dameron #2 (Wed 4th)
Kanan: Volume 2 TPB (Wed 4th)

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>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
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>>82335428
>Vrei să pleci, dar numă, numă iei,
>Numă, numă iei,
>Numă, numă, numă iei - Edition
Sorry, I speak poco español.
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>>82335428
>Vrei să pleci, dar numă, numă iei,
>Numă, numă iei,
>Numă, numă, numă iei
Why must you bring back this horrible memory
You are not my nerra
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The Dark Side is upon us...
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I think Sidious was doing that all Sith Lords do which is that there is only a Master and Apprentice BUT they do have the potential for spares. They use a lot of Dark Side catspaws who could, if the need arises or if the candidate shows enough potential, be used to replace them. Anakin was an unusual type of secret Apprentice in that Sidious was training him for most of his Jedi career, but in very subtle ways, laying the seeds of corruption (probably not the best phrasing overall).

I don't think Maul and Tyrannus were around at the same time. Maul and Dooku don't seem contemporaries in Son of Dathomir. Sidious MAY have had Sifo-Dyas and Tyrannus around the same time, but season 6 played so coy with whether Sifo-Dyas was a victim or a co-conspirator. he did try to warn the Jedi but they hint that he may have become corrupted, especially the line about Sifo-Dyas was killed by a man who wanted to become him. Basically Dooku killed him to become the new Apprentice. Maybe. Yoda saw a corrupted Sifo-Dyas but then that was a vision. I don't think we'll ever really know and I really think it's better that they keep it mysterious.

The thing is when there are only ever two TRUE Sith I think out of caution they're always keeping around potential recruits should one or the other fall. And better yet it plays into their twisted form of Darwinian power struggles because those spares can always be used in a coup against each other. Sidious, nearly his endgame, was NOT in the mood for any such upsets that could threaten the outcome. He was playing too many games with galactic power and against the Jedi, formidable opponents in their own right. I suspect Dooku's downfall in part was from his training Ventress too far and by season 6 Dooku was having too much shit threaten the plan. First Tup's chip malfunctions but Dooku fails to secure the evidence, then later evidence of Sifo-Dyas turns up. Both of which lead the Jedi VERY close to the truth.
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So why did Annakin never go back and save his mom from being a fucking slave after he got taken away by Obiwan and Kweegon?

Youd think the very first thing he would do is save up some dosh and go "buy" his mom or something. Or go back with Kweegon and Obi and jedi mind trick her away and escape.
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>>82335588
>>>82334974
Which means Maul should likely know Force Lightning

Not necessarily. As Dooku once said, "a good master never reveals all his secrets at once". Just because Maul had been his apprentice for so long doesn't mean he had learned all there was to learn. You must also take into account that Unlike Dooku, he wasn't as advanced and experienced. And Unlike Vader, he doesn't have anywhere near the kind of raw potential and talent.
Yes, he was capable. He was powerful. But he was still young and had much left to learn at the time of his cleaving. It's totally acceptable that he doesn't know how to generate lighting.
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>>82335674
Because you touch yourself at night.
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>>82335674
Because they probably told him to let go of previous attachments and to move on. Even then he probably figured she was just fine until he started having the Force Visions, which honestly was probably the case. I mean we don't know how much she would have actually costed, yes she was eventually bought and freed, but we don't know the price and it could have been quite high on a Hutt Slave World. Even then, Watto owned her and Jedi Mind Tricks don't work on him, and they don't work on Jabba either.

I mean what was he going to do when he freed her, he had no home or place to stay in other than the Temple, I doubt the Jedi were just gonna let her stay there for the rest of her days, and then if he married Padme and let her stay there it'd be too obvious.
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>>82335727
That's not her though. Head markings are all wrong
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>>82335815
It is supposed to be her, its a screencap from a vid of Filoni working on her, gimme a bit of time to find the vid
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>>82335767
>I mean we don't know how much she would have actually costed
Remember 'no pod is worth two slaves'? It couldn't have been that much.

>I doubt the Jedi were just gonna let her stay there for the rest of her days
Put her to work. I'm sure the Jedi have flatscans working in the temple.
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>>82335815
That was early concept art for her
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>>82335689
Maul is a tricky one. In TPM I always thought Maul was older than Obi-Wan even if he wasn't as old as Qui-Gon. He did manage to kill a Jedi Master, after all, and not a chump one either.

However in TCWs he and Obi-Wan are presented more as contemporary rivals, which does suggest a dynamic in which both men are around the same age. It makes for good pottery between them. Not just their history but Maul in some ways as a dark reflection of Obi-Wan.

Honestly I'm not really sure, but if true then Maul, even trained his entire life, still wouldn't be much more than a Jedi Knight. Obi-Wan and Anakin were both highly skilled early in their Knighthoods but not overwhelmingly so. You can be very skilled at those ages and not have the BIG tricks. Just because you can spin a ship doesn't mean you can Sheev spin across the room!

So yeah I can imagine Maul could be powerful but not have all the tricks. Obi-Wan could block Dooku's lightning in AOTCs but Yoda could deflect it with his bare hands and Windu could reflect Sidious' with a saber block so it was damaging Sidious as well. Dooku was already a Jedi Master when he was turned so stepping laterally into the Sith role it makes sense he'd have lightning (albeit a much weaker version).
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>>82335899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifRoDS3Xstg

0:03
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>>82335918
Should've posted that instead. Too cute
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>>82335918
A Togruta's face markings really do change with age. Seems like Ahsoka's Mortis look was the oddity.
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>>82335911
>Remember 'no pod is worth two slaves'? It couldn't have been that much.
And how much did pod-racers cost? Anakin's was very make-shift and put together as was a lot of his things, so how much would he have had to scrounge for, for potentially years to build his own racer. Even then people like Unkar in TFA only have engines lying around at best.
>Put her to work. I'm sure the Jedi have flatscans working in the temple.
They would have to pay her or she's no better than the slave she was, considering her slave conditions were just fine previously outside of the whole head exploding thing.

Besides like I said, she was doing just fine as we saw in TPM, Watto wasn't a horrible owner, and neither was Lars, she just got a bad deal in the end that didn't end well, it's not anybody's fault. Besides what would have happened had Anakin bought her and she ended up dying on Coruscant to some other tragedy, which is likely what would have happened, Jedi Temple or not, she has to die in some way, either through old age or something else.
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>>82336025
Mortis Ahsoka could have been her when she was in her early-mid 20s, whereas in Rebels she's still clearly older than that too.
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>>82336033
I see it as a missed opportunity.

Sheev could have killed her and blamed it on the Jedi somehow.
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>>82335899
That's Ashla, the very early proto-Ahsoka. I think the vid titled The Padawan Lives has the early stuff in it. Some of it anyway.
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>>82335918
Too cute for this galaxy.
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>>82335874
Took me a while to catch that last one
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How would you rewrite the prequels, If at all? I would:
>Make Anakin older
>Make Naboo Alderaan
>No Super-sleek tech
>No Jar-Jar
>Maul instead of Dooku
>Genndy Grievous
>Clones are from a variety of templates
>No Lightsaber for Yoda or Palpatine
> More Motifs and simularities between the OT and the PT, like the Luke's choice to follow the Light, opposite of what his father did while rescuing Palpatine in ROTS.
>Familiar Lietmotifs in the score, like reprising the emotional Vader vs. Luke music in ROTJ when Obi-Wan and Anakin fight, but with a choir of 100 voices to make the scene more impactful.
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>>82336057
He'd have to go and learn from Sheev at some point then. You know how he reacted with his mother's death. He'd have slaughtered as many Jedi as he could, it just wouldn't make sense within the context of the world unless it was in RotS. Order 66 was a much more logical plan to have the Jedi spread across the Galaxy to be easier to kill.
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>>82336025
Mortis Ahsoka was just her model stretched IIRC so that's why it was odd.
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>>82336132
No, I mean blame it on their incompetence. To make Anakin dislike the Jedi, not want to kill them.

As RotS is, Anakin doesn't have much reason to hate the Jedi.
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>cute
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>>82336159
Jesus, she found Vos' stash again.
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>>82336073
Oops, I was late to the party. Oh well have some more early designs.
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>>82336126
I'd:

>remove Droid factory scene from AotC, replace it with extended Battle of Geonosis and a short thing of Anakin/Padme being captured. No C-3PO head switch

>trim one or two of the Naboo scenes with Anakin/Padme

>convince the people George asked to help him to help him and make the prequels have better dialogue.

All of your changes are shitty, meme ones.
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I'd change all the Jedi Starfighters to look like Yoda's but bigger. I think they're a more logical step into eventual TIE Fighters
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>>82336124
Thats hilarious
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>>82336333
I prefer the cute posts.

Oh well.
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So I'm curious as to how the japanese dubs sound for Clone Wars ans Rebels, as well as the general reaction to the shows.

Anyone got any links or something? I seriously suck ass at finding this sort of stuff on my own.
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>>82336333
>tfw no twi'lek gf to cuddle with
This galaxy sucks
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>Bananakin

I found this way funnier than I should've
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>>82336283
Yeah the main reason 1-3 were bad was because he had too many yes-men on his team. There's footage it somewhere, too lazy to find it
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>Bananakin
That shouldn't be funny
But it is
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>>82336455
>What are the Plinkett reviews
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>>82336025
>A Togruta's face markings really do change with age.

yeah, its cool how they changed like that. They even slightly changed in TCW when Ahsoka got older. It's really hard to notice, but the markings are slightly different.
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>>82336425
>tfw no femquisitor gf to cuddle with
This galaxy is pure suffering
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>>82336455
>Yeah the main reason 1-3 were bad was because he had too many yes-men on his team.
You don't actually believe Plinkett, do you?
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>I prefer the cute posts.
Do you mean as opposed to smut posts? Because >>82336333 is actually official from The Art of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. It's one of their background pinups.
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>>82336126
>How would you rewrite the prequels, If at all? I would:

I wouldn't. They're fine as is.


>No Super-sleek tech
Why? That was one of the best parts of the PT on a visual level. Most everything was all refined and shiney. A nice change from the junkyness/2nd-hand look we got in the OT.
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>>82336543
Did not know that. But yeah I'd rather see some cute stuff than lewds. Especially some Seventh Sister cute stuff
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>>82336574
Yeah, it was a direct expansion on the look of Cloud City/Imperial interiors. People who think the OT was all junky seem to only remember Tatooine(a slum world full of bounty hunters, crime, etc) and the Massassi Temple(an old temple repurposed into a base).
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>>82336126
>the Republic fights clones, hence Clone Wars
>Sheev is a general, kicks clone ass
>his soldiers, that take up the name stormtroopers, slowly become more loyal to him than the inept Republic
>he eventually storms Coruscant, takes over the senate and declares himself emperor, no applause, just fear

>Obi-Wan meets pilot Anakin during the war
>they become warforged pals and Obi-Wan trains him in the force
>they fight with Sheev, alongside the stormtroopers
>when he finds out Sheev plans to attack Coruscant he takes Anakin aside
>urges him to escape Sheev and defend the Republic
>Anakin refuses
>when Sheev attacks Coruscant, they duel
>Obi-Wan wins, but Anakin has back up and Obi-Wan runs away into Exile
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>>82336526
>believe
Regardless of whether you agree with him or not, you don't seriously believe that he's lying, do you?
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>>82336681
>. People who think the OT was all junky seem to only remember Tatooine(a slum world full of bounty hunters, crime, etc) and the Massassi Temple(an old temple repurposed into a base).

Actually, I was thinking of the Falcon. But the temple on Yavin also comes to mind as well.
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>>82336616
They showed up in a few places. Gotta love their sexy nose art for ships, but the clones had good taste in pinups too. Wish there was a better pic of this, you can barely tell it's the Naboo Handmaiden.

And I just realized that "Naboo Handmaiden" is probably an in-universe term for what we might call "A date with Rosy Palm".
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>>82336742
He lies about basically everything regarding behind-the-scenes stuff and most of the stuff about the films he points out either

A. Are extreme nitpicks
B. him not understanding how Star Wars works.
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>>82336772
Well, the Falcon was a freighter/smuggling ship, it was gonna look pretty eat up anyhow.
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>>82336742

With Plinkitt? No. I think he's telling what he believes is true. Doesn't make him right though. You can say what you believe is true, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's correct. He's an asshole with shit opinions. Simple as.
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>>82336796
What could he possibly have to gain?
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>>82336841
His reviews were primarily for comedy, which is why he goes so absolutely ridiculous with everything he points out or makes out to be something else.

Sure, they make a few valid points, but they were primarily for comedic value.

He also was probably too much of a lazy fuck to do very much investigation regarding BtS stuff.
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>>82336681
But Bespin still had a 70's vibe to it, and actually looked like it fit in Star Wars. The prequels forsook that for weird, elegant, and extravagant royal shit that looks completley different than the Lo-Fi Secondhand Future feel of the OT.
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views for ad money for space cop
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>The prequels forsook that for weird, elegant, and extravagant royal shit that looks completley different than the Lo-Fi Secondhand Future feel of the OT.

But that's part of what made it great. It helped make the galaxy the story inhabits seem wider and more grand. The secondhand look in the OT was appropriate since they were far from more civilized systems. Basically the countryside of the galaxy. Whereas in the PT they were neck deep in the urban areas where you'd get fancy shit and foreign infulences and culture. I loved that about the PT and I hope bits of that come back for the ST. It just doesn't do to narrow the scope of the galaxy. That's one of the reasons why TFA failed.
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>>82336891
>The prequels forsook that for weird, elegant, and extravagant royal shit that looks completley different than the Lo-Fi Secondhand Future feel of the OT.
Aside from Naboo, I'm not sure what you're even describing.
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Goddamnit, I want one of these. Too cute.

Good night anons.
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Then the chairs should look spare age radical like pic related. Which I always found funny because this is a bit closer to how Yoda's seat in the Jedi Council chambers appears.
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>TFA failed

lol
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>But Bespin still had a 70's vibe to it,

But it was still sleek, clean, and not-second hand. It looks no different from some places on upper Coruscant or Kamino.

>and actually looked like it fit in Star Wars.

So did the prequels though. Just mostly a different

>The prequels forsook that for weird, elegant, and extravagant royal shit

So Naboo, or the Jedi Temple? Places that are supposed to look really elegant, more civilized?

> that looks completley different than the Lo-Fi Secondhand Future feel of the OT.
You mean "that look completely different from Tatooine, the Millennium Falcon, Yavin IV, the garbage disposal on the Death Star"

Those are the only things that portray that feel. Bespin is clean and shiny. Imperial interiors are clean and shiny. The inside of the Tantive IV is shiny.

The only other places we see are barely inhabited locations like Hoth, Dagobah or Endor.
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>>82336224
There's no party like a Jedi party.
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>>82337066
I wouldn't say that TFA failed in that regard, since they're largely doing the same thing the OT did. Shock, I know. Maz's castle is some old stone place that's, sorry Maz, horribly decorated, especially all the crazy banners and pennants. Jakku had everything largely cobbled together from the wrecks. The Resistance base was an out of the way area that they'd obviously coopted, like the Rebellion did with Yavin's temples.

That said I do worry they won't carry with the traditions of the Prequels which tried to give each world or culture it's own unique artistic aspects to their architecture. Rebels hasn't done too bad, but they're severely limited in terms of new assets they can create.
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I hate the sand-blasted look.
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>>82337224
ok anakin
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>>82337077

I think he's probably talking about Corsucant.
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>>82336126
>No Super-sleek tech
I disagree with this one. The prequels take place in "a more civilized time." I think the sleeker ascetic is one of the things they did right.

>Clones are from a variety of templates
This would make sense logically, but I think having them all be the same works better thematically. Being genetically uniform is what makes them a clone army.

The rest of your list sounds good.
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>>82337147
I didn't know people's opinions could be so shit
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>>82337243
I hate this set.

Maybe it's the way it's lit, but it looks like a soap opera set.
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>>82337156
I see Larry Kenobi is passing his teachings to the younglings
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>>82337240
I find it off-putting.
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>>82337289
>GIVE THE BABY TO CREEPIO
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>>82337275
You're one to talk.
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>>82337280
You must watch some pretty dope soap operas, anon. I only know like the weird vampire one. Dark Shadows? Have there been any sci-fi soap operas? I guess maybe some of the ones that get accused of being 90210 in space.
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>>82337224
I hate sand. It's course and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. Not like Lekkus, Lekkus are soft and smooth.
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>>82337145

It did, though. It's the worst one so far. Nowhere near the same kind of effort that was put into it's predecessors went into it and the big shots making the calls in regards to it simply didn't care.

>>82337188
>since they're largely doing the same thing the OT did.

That's what I mean though. They tried to ignore the scale of the galaxy (both literal and in a visual sense) in favor of the OT aesthetic only. I might've looked the other way on this if they filmed/included scenes of Hosnian Prime and the Senate other than it being destroyed.
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>>82337447
I'm perfectly find with them doing focused stories.

I didn't mind the way Hosnian's cityscape looked. Maybe because of how people were joking about how it looked like Gotham City was murdered by a solar powered red beam fired from an eyeball. Batman v Superman indeed.
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>>82336126
>Make Anakin older
Could work.

>Make Naboo Alderaan
No. That would be retarded.

>No Super-sleek tech
So you'd also want to cut out the Tantive IV scenes, any scene in a Star Destroyer or the Death Stars, and any Bespin scene?

>No Jar-Jar
Jar Jar could work if he wasn't written as annoyingly.

>Maul instead of Dooku
No.

>Genndy Grievous
Fuck no.

>Clones are from a variety of templates
Nah, making it from one template works better thematically.

>No Lightsaber for Yoda or Palpatine
Dumb.

> More Motifs and simularities between the OT and the PT, like the Luke's choice to follow the Light, opposite of what his father did while rescuing Palpatine in ROTS.
Were you not paying attention? There's already tons of pottery between the two.

https://vimeo.com/137711830

>Familiar Lietmotifs in the score, like reprising the emotional Vader vs. Luke music in ROTJ when Obi-Wan and Anakin fight, but with a choir of 100 voices to make the scene more impactful.
No, Battle of the Heroes works better for the Anakin vs Obi-Wan fight. Perfect balance of choir and instruments
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>>82337550
Looks like Future Mordor to me.
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>>82337713
I'm tempted to draw in a little tower and turn thered light into an eye, but I'm sparse for time tonight.
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>>82337550
>I'm perfectly find with them doing focused stories.

I'm not. Giving a narrow approach/view to the movies I feel is a disservice to the fans and the franchise as a whole.

>>82337586
>No, Battle of the Heroes works better for the Anakin vs Obi-Wan fight. Perfect balance of choir and instruments

That, and when you think about it the PT did the exact same as the OT. They introduced new themes and motifs in every installment. You can pretty much pin a specific song to each film.

TPM: Duel of The Fates
AOTC: Across The Stars
ROTS: Battle of Heroes
ANH: The Throne Room
TESB: The Smuggler and The Princess
ROTJ: Ewok them and or Luke and Leia's theme
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>>82336126
The biggest thing would be making Anikin's fall more believable. The audience should be able to sympathize with his reasons for going down that path. Slaughtering the sand people who killed his mother was a good scene for that, but it was basically only part of his turn to the dark side that works.
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Yep anon, it sure did fail. Just look at that failure.

You can argue all day that it failed on aesthetics and story and shit which is all subjective. I thought it was fine, but is my opinion and can be argued against though.

Money though, that isn't. You can't argue statistics

The only way for a movie to fail is if it doesn't make a fucking profit. Sure it can disappoint you, but seriously, you can't say a successful movie failed.
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>>82338139
Pretty sure that's not what anyone's saying when they say "well, TFA failed at ____"
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>>82335591
>Anakin was an unusual type of secret Apprentice in that Sidious was training him for most of his Jedi career, but in very subtle ways, laying the seeds of corruption (probably not the best phrasing overall).

Sheev's Seeds!
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>>82338139
>Money though, that isn't. You can't argue statistics

I'm not talking about how it did financially. That was never part of the conversation. Yeah, financially, it did phenomenally. I'm talking about it in just about any other way, though primarily aesthetically. Though outside of aesthetics and grosses, it is indeed not a good movie. At least not as good as it's predecessors. The only hope I have is the possibilities it opens up for later and tries to fix the mistakes TFA made.
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>>82338304
>The only hope I have is the possibilities it opens up for later and tries to fix the mistakes TFA made.
Again, see >>82338139
The movie was clearly successful. It had no mistakes.
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>>82338334
Just because the film did well financially does not mean it had no faults
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>>82337312
>I have heard tale of a taco...made entirely out of Doritos.
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>>82337312
>AND FULFILL THE PROPHECY
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>There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think the prequels are good.
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>>82338458
Eh, there are some good parts to them. They still don't hold a candle to the OT, but they're aren't completely terrible.
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>>82338458
They aren't bad, but they aren't particularly good. Ep 3 was about the only one that I could even consider approaching good, and still definitely would not put that over TFA. The arguments in this thread are full of a lot dumb people....
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>>82338334
>The movie was clearly successful. It had no mistakes.
>repeated the plot of ANH
>tried to recreate the aesthetic feel of the OT
>failed in recreating the feel of the OT
>literally rendered the ending of ROTJ pointless
>handled the arcs for their primary new characters awfully
>rushed the production on account of Disney's demands and JJ's idiocy
>also because of above that didn't allow John Williams to score the movie with a fully edited film and couldn't go overseas to work with the LSO

There are probably others, but these are the things that struck me the most. It was very much full of mistakes.
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>>82338458
I only like the later parts of AoTC and generally RoTS
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>>82338557
>It was very much full of mistakes.
And yet it made millions upon millions. Do you not understand what success is?
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>>82338304
If you want to look at statistics about quality, TFA has the second highest score of any Star Wars movie on Metacritic, and the third highest on Rotten Tomatoes.
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>>82338596
>Do you not understand what success is?

Do you not understand that financial success doesn't equate the quality of a film? It's not a good Star Wars film. Just because millions of people who don't understand what their watching and paid to see it doesn't mean it's a masterpiece of cinema.
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>>82338458
It's Stockholm syndrome.
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>>82338505
Exactly. People seem to think that you have to choose one trilogy or the other, and on top of that, you either have to ABSOLUTELY LOVE one and HATE the other.

Also, it all comes down to opinions in the end anyway, so the whole argument matters even less. It's like all the purpose these threads serve is to call other people morons for not understanding your certain point of view
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>>82338458
>There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think the prequels are good.

I view the prequels as being no better or worse than the OT. Contrary to what many think, the OT films weren't perfect.
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>There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think the prequels are not good.
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>Just because a majority of people enjoy it doesn't mean that invalidates my thoughts on the film!

Jesus Christ, we're not saying it's a perfect fucking movie, but in no way is it bad. Or hell, if it was worse than the damn prequels no way in hell would it of made such bank at the box office.

Anon, have you ever considered you might just be dumb as fuck? Just because shit isn't perfect doesn't mean you have to see it as shit.
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>>82338694
>Just because millions of people who don't understand what their watching and paid to see it doesn't mean it's a masterpiece of cinema.
$2 billion at the box office worldwide
81 on Metacritic
92% on RT

Just because people didn't like your precious prequels doesn't mean you can pull bullshit out your ass and pretend TFA wasn't an amazing movie.
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>>82338773
Seems like it's the purpose of every thread ever made, not just the star wars threads.

Seeing everyone get so assblasted over someone with a different opinion does get tiring after a while.
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>mfw I'm starting to prefer the cartoons over the movies

Watching Vader vs Obi-wan is just so flat to me now.
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>>82338861
That's an aspergers trait you know. Truth is absolute to those with it, so if someone's truth doesn't match their own they see it as a personal attack.

Gotta learn that truth is subjective and just because someone's opinion doesn't match your own doesn't make them any less wrong than you necessarily.
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>>82338921
Better than your flippy acrobatic crap, idiot
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>>82338808
>have you ever considered you might just be dumb as fuck?

I don't claim to be the most intelligent person in the room, if that's of any consolation to you.

> Just because shit isn't perfect doesn't mean you have to see it as shit.

Indeed. The OT and PT aren't perfect, but I liek them. I tried to go into TFA open minded, but it simply failed to live up to the previous six and it's plot and quality actively shit on it's predecessors. Just because the vast majority of people who like it are people who don't understand to see these things, which is understandably casuals and children, doesn't mean it's good in any way but financially.
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>>82338921
The cartoons have some really good shit in them. Best thing to come of the prequels, that's for sure.

Still have trouble stomaching a lot of the gungan and political shit in it though....
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I prefer Adywan's version of Vader vs Obi-Wan, desu. Though the music change was a bit too far and I'm glad he's gonna removed it in his HD versions of his fanedits.
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>>82338991
>>82339050
Nothing to do with how they fight or how it looks. The dialog is terrible despite their history. There's no emotional weight because you're not allowed to know anything.
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What's the best fan cut of the prequels?
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>>82338458
There are people right now who don't enjoy all the films and Star Wars material because it's Star Wars, despite ALL of their flaws and imperfections, that includes the OT.
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>>82339387
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
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>>82339409

Well met, nerra.
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>>82339409
I think you mean Revenge of the Sith Novelization, it's better than the film, while it has it's problems, it at least goes into the whole Obi-wan/Padme thing and Anakin/Vader's inner monologues.
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>>82339409
Incorrect.
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>>82339519
>it's the "the RotS novelization is good" meme"

>>82339520
No, correct.
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>>82339540
>it's the "the RotS novelization is good" meme"

Please tell me what is wrong with the novel then?
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>>82337990
>I'm not. Giving a narrow approach/view to the movies I feel is a disservice to the fans and the franchise as a whole.
It's about doing what is right for the plot, not just adding in a bunch of scenery porn just for the sake of it. I'm not saying every movie has to take place in a backwater world like Tokadana or Jakku but neither does every world need to be Naboo or as alien as Felucia.

I really cannot see how showing the action in largely out of the way and/or underdeveloped places like Hoth or Endor or Tatooine is a disservice to fans or Star Wars when we had three movies that didn't include sprawling metropolis worlds like Coruscant. TFA did one better and actually showed a brief view of Hosnian Prime without having to wait for a special edition.

I'd certainly like to see more alien planets, but at the same time I'm not going overboard with my case as to claim it's somehow anti-Star Wars not to do so. Even TCWs sometimes gave us totally boring shitholes like Abafar.

At any rate we're getting at least a casino scene in Episode VIII so they are very likely going space urban for part of the movie.
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>>82339540
>He watches the Vanilla Prequel films.
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>>82339409
Personally, I prefer The Third Gathers: Backstroke of the West
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>>82339696
>he wants to watch autists on the internet butcher original movies in the same way Lucas gets accused of for the special editions
There's an idiomatic turn of phrase for this degree of hypocrisy and I think it's "pot calling the kettle black."
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>>82339573
It over-explains or adds explanations where they're not needed.

It needlessly adds small details that aren't needed.

It changed up the Arrest of Palpatine and mentions Mace being close to the Dark side with Vapaad and shit.

So many more reasons I don't feel like listing.

>>82339696
>He watches shitty fan-edits made by people who don't know how to edit films or remove shit just because they didn't personally like it.
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>>82339738
I prefer The War of the Stars: A New Hope Grindhoused myself
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>>82339738
do want
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>>82339589
>It's about doing what is right for the plot, not just adding in a bunch of scenery porn just for the sake of it.

I agree. And the plot being a repeat of of the OT is not a good way to go about adding to the story and to the universe.

>I really cannot see how showing the action in largely out of the way and/or underdeveloped places like Hoth or Endor or Tatooine is a disservice to fans or Star Wars when we had three movies that didn't include sprawling metropolis worlds like Coruscant.

Because such instances fit with what the those said movies' settings needed. But when you make that the only thing that's going to be, then it just gets stale. That's why I welcomed places like Coruscant, Naboo, Alderaan and Kamino after growing up with the OT as a kid.

>we're getting at least a casino scene in Episode VIII so they are very likely going space urban for part of the movie.

I should hope so, but that may not necessarily be the case. You can have casinos in shitholes as well.
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>>82339409
>Implying the theatrical cut of the prequels is the best possible cut

This is just silly now. We get it. You like the prequels. But Lucas is the guy who said a movie is never finished, only abandoned. There's always room for improvement.
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>>82339773
>Being this fucking ignorant.

Nigger, do you not understand how important film editing is? Haven't you seen films like Blade Runner get saved from some well needed trimming?
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>>82340011
>implying they aren't

Stay mad.
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>>82340045
I do. The prequels are edited fine.

Every single goddamn fanedit of them that tries to "improve them" are not edited well.
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>>82339997
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>>82339997
They need to invest in chapsticks
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>>82340117
My homoerotic undertone senses are tingling
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>>82340117
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>>82339924
>I should hope so, but that may not necessarily be the case. You can have casinos in shitholes as well.
I don't think being a shithole matters. We've seen Coruscant's upper levels AND the lower levels too, after all. That's not a problem. However it could be...a space station. Cloud City 2.0, basically. Probably even have Lando running the place.

That last bit would be welcome, at least.
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>>82340080
Okay, dude, put the puzzle box down. Do not unleash the cenobites. Never go full Vong.
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>>82340353
>AshokaxRex

I remember when you people had good taste
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>>82339778
>It over-explains or adds explanations where they're not needed.
>It needlessly adds small details that aren't needed.
It's a novel of course it adds explanations for things that wont be able to fit into the film, and some of them are very much needed, against the entire angle of Anakin believing Obi-Wan and Padme were having an affair due to Obi-Wan's growing distance and Padme's secret meetings. This is even evident in the film during Mustafar with "You're with him? You brought him here to kill me!"
>It changed up the Arrest of Palpatine and mentions Mace being close to the Dark side with Vapaad and shit.
Vaapad's Dark Side stuff had been a thing since Vaapad was originally being introduced in Shatterpoint and getting expanded upon. While Shatterpoints being a part of Vaapad are no longer canon, it's still a highly controversial Form among the Jedi Order in current canon due to the fury and aggressiveness of the style, being the most aggressive out of all of them, this leads to an influx of emotion, which goes against the Jedi code, tethering on the Dark Side, it fits in line with how the Form works.
>So many more reasons I don't feel like listing.
You might as well get to listing.
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>>82336126
>Phantom Menace
I'd pretty much rewrite the whole thing. The two biggest things would be,
>Lower Padme's age to be closer to Anakin's
>Remove the entire Naboo plotline, and everything that comes with it
I would introduce the Jedi as total peace keepers during the war between the Republic and the Separatists. Sort of like Doctors without Borders, they're just a neutral party that lends non-combative aid to whoever asks in perfect balance. Qui'gon and Obi-Wan would arrive on Tatooine following a distress signal, and shenanigans would eventually lead them to Anakin. Tatooine scenes would probably progress around the same (sans Jarjar and virgin birth) with a little more action thrown in between the podrace as Qui-gon handles the distress beacon situation while Anakin earns his freedom. After discovering Anakin's force sensitivity, they bring him back to the Jedi temple where they test and discover just how deep the limits of his powers go.

Spies report back to Sheev that Anakin may be the chosen one, and worrying that he may ruin his plans, he orders Darth Maul to assassinate all the Jedi children in the temple just to be safe. Since most of the Jedi are off world, and nobody in their right mind would ever attack a temple, the security is lax enough for Maul to sneak in and get close enough to Anakin to 'feel' him, before being driven off by the remaining Jedi Knights. Maul reports his failure, and lets it slip that he sensed a connection to the darkside within the boy. This kickstarts Sheev's grand scheme. He plays into the events by arriving at the Jedi temple as the Senator, and pleading to the Jedi for aid to the republic, as the Separatists are now OBVIOUSLY enlisting the aid of the Dark Side to win this war. While there, he starts planting seeds of discontent within Anakin, as the Jedi are reluctant to fight back even after an attempt on his life.

I've run out of space to tell the rest, but Sheev would basically have a MUCH larger presence in PM.
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>>82340426
I have more where that came from!
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>>82340117
>>82340274
But who comes first?
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>>82340302
>That last bit would be welcome, at least.

Agreed. Though I'm pretty sure it wont happen. Billy Dee's apparently not interested in coming back to the movies (he was offered a part in TFA, but turned it down) and only sticks to voicing the role for TV.
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>>82339858
I...never knew this was a thing.
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>>82340426
And what do you suggest? Ahsoka and that traitorous Barriss?
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>>82340446
>>Remove the entire Naboo plotline, and everything that comes with it

But the Naboo plot line is essential for the foundation of the CIS's bad sentiments for the Republic both commercially and why the Senate is so ineffective and corrupt.
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>>82340518
>he was offered a part in TFA, but turned it down
First I've heard of this
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>>82340726

Yep. Same with Denis Lawson (Wedge).
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>>82335918
>Unca' Pwo!
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Thanks anon
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>>82340925
Jesus Christ
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>>82340950
I'm free to provide as long as I'm bored and putting off going to play TW3.
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>>82341003
Is that so?
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>>82340647
But it also lays the foundation for the terribly boring space politics. I would leave all the root information as a backdrop for the origin of the war, but start things further down the line when physical conflicts have already arisen. Especially considering PM would be mainly filmed from the perspective of the Jedi, the reason for the conflict wouldn't impact them as much as the conflict itself. In this case, TELLING the viewer that "These planets are pissed off over the Republic's shit", is more interesting than actually showing it.

Plus, my vision for the Prequels would be to have each of them represent the deconstruction of Anakin's character, and Sheev's steady corruption.

Episode 1 would be centered around their Jedi, and Anakin's growing disillusionment with their inaction
Episode 2 would involve Anakin becoming disgusted by the Republic itself, and how corruption and in-fighting power play still runs rampant in the middle of a galactic war.
Episode 3 would have Anakin finally realize the necessity of the empire, with Palpatine as its head.

All of these revalations obviously stem from the seeds of doubt Sheev plants within him throughout the series, but we all know that the greatest lies contain a drop of truth.
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>>82340518
>>82340726
I heard the opposite: They never contacted Billy Dee for 7 and he was really wanting to be in one of the new movies.
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>>82341086
>But it also lays the foundation for the terribly boring space politics.

I loved those scenes though. It helped to establish the scale of the galaxy (if only via implication). And it was Sheev in his element, pulling everyone's strings. The senate scenes in the prequels and TCW for me is some of the best stuff to come out of Star Wars. I wish we'd get something like it in Rebels to see how it's changed in the Empire and foreshadow it's abolisment, though I know that'd never happen since it'd be a bitch to even set an episode in Coruscant.

It'd also be nice to see in Episode 8. Their efforts to reform/salvage what's left of the Senate and all.
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>>82341095
Same here.

http://www.blastr.com/2015-2-11/billy-dee-williams-hints-he-might-not-be-done-star-wars-films-after-all

Admittedly this is an old story so maybe he was being coy in interviews and actually turned it down? Seems odd. I recall he was interviewed with his son at Celebration last year and maybe they asked him then too.
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>>82340647
Honestly, can't that just be stated?
Did we really need an entire movie just to say "The Trade Federation is mad because they're getting taxed on their trade routes"
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>>82341036
Here ya go, I'm go play some TW3 now, you guys enjoy, I might do some late late tonight/morning or tomorrow.
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>>82340080
Is this meant to be Vader/Anakin? Good stuff
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>>82341663
>Honestly, can't that just be stated?

It could, but it would feel like a cop out.

>Did we really need an entire movie just to say "The Trade Federation is mad because they're getting taxed on their trade routes"

I think so. But that's just me. And that's probably because I really like TPM for what we got of it.
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>>82341739

I think so. Even if it's missing the parts that are supposed to link to his prosthetic organs.
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>>82341686
Thanks man. I mean it. Haven't played TW3 in a while, maybe I'll try out the DLCs.
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>>82341779
That and his arms are actually different, at least as far as we're aware unless Palpatine just un-connected his arm to give him a new one for whatever reason, and doesn't he have tubes and shit jammed into his chest so he can properly receive oxygen?
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>>82335698
I'm actually a bit bothered that Maul's Infinity statue is missing his off-center head horn.
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>>82341806
I haven't bothered picking up the DLC myself either, or even patching the damn game on this shit datacapped internet (datacaps are retarded and shouldn't exist in any capacity, but muh monopolies and other stupid shit). Picked it up back during Christmas with a PS4, just haven't played much of it at all, finally trying to clean my backlog of games up, unfortunately my PS3 kicked the bucket recently among other things.

But anyways, enough blogshit, you're welcome, glad you like it, I'm off to play some TW3.
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>>82341779
I'll be frank here, it's hard to tell with all these Sith cyborgs. Or I might just think there's more than there actually are, but from a superficial glance there seems like a lot.
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>>82341848
Only ones I can think of are Malak, Malgus, Maul, and Vader. Unless TOR and some EU stuff I don't remember had more of it.
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>>82341858
>>82340925
I see that Midi-chlorians testing has taken a new form in the new canon
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>>82341663
No, stories are best shown not told. I admit it was surprising how far back TPM is from the events of AOTCs but there was nothing wrong with TPM in terms of what it did. This was establish the kinds of things the Jedi do, their role as peacekeepers, and how this should have been a routine mission...but something was off. Some people still think Darth Maul was still the Phantom Menace but it was about the secret machinations of Darth Sidious. Naboo doesn't just show us the Trade Federation it's about the rise of Palpatine's power, his true reason for the entire conflict. He was sacrificing his own homeworld just to undermine Chancellor Vallorum and in-part use the sympathy to secure his own rise to replace the man. The Jedi find Anakin, we get Qui-Gon's weird philosophies on the Force which are much more important later on. It gives a taste of the battle droids who were to become a much greater threat later on.

Honestly what I wish they'd done is had Dooku in the movie. Establish him as the friend and old Master of Qui-Gon, make him an ally on the Council who supports them (similar to how Obi-Wan will later act towards Anakin for pottery). This way when we find out he's left the Order in AOTCs we can wonder if he really is a threat, even believe maybe he's sincere in his actions. Make us feel betrayed as the rest of the Jedi do by his actions.
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>>82341875
My inner normie just sees bald human dudes in Vader-like armor and doesn't bother looking for (miniscule) differences between them, so I might think one character with different looks across media could be two.
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>>82341954
Yeah when I watched that trailer I immediately thought that guy was Malak just because he was bald and had a breathing apparatus
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>>82341820
>and doesn't he have tubes and shit jammed into his chest so he can properly receive oxygen?

I thought he would've needed wiring so he can control/monitor his prosthetic organs. That box on his chest ain't for nothing I'd bet. As for breathing, he'd need that, but they probably go into his neck and connect to the first of his two respirators.

And you're right about the arms. His right arm was cut below the elbow. His left he's missing above. Like maybe half or a third of his left bicep is gone.

Also, I'm pretty sure Vader still had both ears.
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>>82340080
It's him.
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>>82335636
Spruced up your webm a bit
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>>82335636
>>82342116
I love how he just sorta gets dragged off
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>>82342032
There were obviously supposed to be parallels between the two. One of the trailers even has notRevan as his master. Same with having Satele as notBastila.
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>>82341686
The color of the stripes on her lekku is backwards.
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>>82342255
There's a difference between parallels - and paying homage to another work - and outright repeating the same thing over (in this case, the design). The latter lowers expectations of the audience for the work, because not only are you relying on something else to give impact to your story, but also there's no reason to care for the characters if they're just copies of others before him.

"Bald human cyborg Sith with breathing apparatus" is already a quite narrow concept, but there's no reason to not mix it up a bit.
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Just uploaded a bunch of images to the booru
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Shall we get the feel train a rollin'?
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>>82342701
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>>82342713
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>>82342701
I like that the art you posted acknowledges that Luke takes more after Padme and Leia after Anakin.
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>>82342724
dat dilf luke
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>>82342701
>>82342713
>>82342724
Please give the source on them, they're great.
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>>82342701
>>82342713
>>82342724
>this will never be a reality
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>>82341921
Indeed it has
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CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>82342748

The weird thing with their casting, between Christensen, Portman and Fisher is that I can kinda see a resemblance between them from time to time. With Hamill a little less so. But that's fine, he's cool.
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>>82342923
(save me)
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Think we'll see Bane in Rebels?
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>>82342980

No. It's for that reason why we got Ketsu. Filoni doesn't want to fall back on these characters and want's to imply there's more people beyond who we've seen before. If any bounty hunter is returning, it'll probably be Embo since he's one of Filoni's self inserts.

Also, isn't Bane taller?
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My favorite Neimoidian Sparks romance novel arrived!
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>>82342980
We find out Sabine met him when she was fresh out of the academy with a price on her head by the Empire. Age has slowed his reflexes and she's quicker on the draw. "You won today kid...but that doesn't mean I gotta like it." He plops his hat on her head and then dies. And that's how Sabine broke into the bounty hunting business. She used to wear his hat too but it looked kind of silly overtop her Mando helmet.
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Where were you when Obi-Wan was confirmed for gay for Maul?
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>>82343086
I like this, both the pulp look on the mag as well as that Togruta design.
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>>82343110
Reading about how Ahsoka's unrequited love for Rex
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>>82343152
Well, at least he's her age.
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>>82342270
Yeah I noticed that honestly after I had already saved it and didn't save it in the proper format, just as a png, so it was more of a hassle to go back and fix. Also didn't fully get rid of the orange around her fingers, so it bleeds into the helmet a bit.

Either way, a decent attempt despite not paying attention really. At least I think so, could be worse I suppose.
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>>82343110
What? Preposterous! How dare you say such slanderous lies!
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>>82343152
Which book is this? I really want to get into the Star Wars EU, this looks like somewhere good to start.
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>>82343176
She's actually older than him by 4 years. He's only 10 at the start of TCW, she's 14.
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>>82342980
I want Bossk. And he'd get to be relevant!
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>>82343222
He's more relevant than Boba is in the Darth Vader comic, which isn't much, but it's something.
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>>82343222
I want Bossk to have a tragic love story for some reason...
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>>82343200
Star Wars Gambit: Siege
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>>82343222
Star Wars Episode VIII: The Bossk Stops Here

A Trandoshan tale of love, life, lust, death, and REVENGE!
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>>82343249
I meant more that he has a prior history with Ezra, so stuff could go on in that front.

>>82343275
I'd fund it. If I had the money.
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>>82343152
I hope Rex is in the Ahsoka novel.
I hope they fucked.
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>>82343110
>>82343152
what are these from?
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>>82343275
>REVENGE
>Boss becomes a Revanchist fighting to reclaim lost territories the Wookiees reclaimed.
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>>82343222
Pop! figures are really boring style-wise but sometimes non-human characters look really cute.

In other news, good to see you posting again, bossk-anon.
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>>82343152

I admit, because of TCW, when I read dialogue for a clone, I can't keep one voice in my head. I always flip between either Dee Bradly Baker's voice and Temuera Morrison's.
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>>82343337
>In other news, good to see you posting again, bossk-anon.
I post pretty often, I just don't post Bossk stuff very frequently.
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>>82343296
There was tension between them clearly, but Rex failed to make his move. Instead, it was Cody that banged her.

This led to a breakdown in their friendship. Years later, as an old Rex confronts an old Cody, this remains a point of contention... even moreso than their allegiances to the rebellion or the Empire.
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>>82343348
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My hope is that Cody and Rex had a big fall out, with possible fist fighting. And no, not gay fist fighting.
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>>82343529
I can see a bit of resemblance to TCW Rex.
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>>82343582
This. Hell, I wouldn't even mind if the fight was overly dramatic
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>>82343610
No gay fistfighting.
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>>82343610
>you will never get this scene with an old ass Obi-wan vs. an old ass Maul on Tatooine after Ghost Crew went to him for help and Maul followed
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Who wants to watch Deadpool or something in the stream in like 10 or 15 mins?
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>>82343669
Fuck you got Deadpool? How long is it? It's currently 1:42 am over here
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>>82343684
1 hr 48 mins, I'm starting in 10
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>>82343695
Fine, give link if you can
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>>82343717
>>82275217
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>>82343582
CLONEBOWL GET HYPE
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