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>>135265513
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
One of the best things about growing up in New Zealand is that if you are prepared to work hard and have faith in yourself, truly anything is possible.
>>135292674
I'm going to rape you.
>Cornucopia
>>135292716
Nah, mate.
how many of you buy physical copies of raw manga to read rather than just pirating it?
>>135292770
>>135292841
Only when there's no scans, like the latest yotsubato.
For those of you who have read/are reading Flyable Heart, tell me all about your experiences! I want to hear about how the difficulty level is, what you knew and had already studied before beginning to read it, and also how you enjoyed it/how you are enjoying it so far.
>>135293986
The first few lines of Flyable Heart (when I read it over a year ago) were so hard I wanted to die, and I couldn't keep reading it. I would bring up my own posts about it if the archives from that time weren't dead, because I remember specific lines from the beginning I just couldn't understand. I started reading MaKo Hunter, a nukige, instead.
How do you get good at pitch accent?
>>135294057
Punch yourself every time you get it wrong.
>>135294057
The ONLY way to get good at pitch accent is to listen to PROFESSIONAL voice actors speak in the Core 2k/6k deck. There is NO other way.
>tfw you're worse off after DJT
>>135294083
Is there any sort of systematic approach beyond listening to lots of Japanese that might assist it?
>>135293986
When I started I was about 2k into Core and finished Tae Kim and basic volume of DoJG. Read extremely slowly, didn't understand a lot of it, and was barely able to piece things together via vocab and context.
Now (finished 2 routes, about to start 3rd) I'm able to comfortably read most lines without looking stuff up. I still get knocked on my ass by some sentences that have completely new grammar, but I'm probably going to start reading the intermediate DoJG volume either during this route of during the next route.
As for my opinion on the VN itself, I'm actually genuinely really enjoying it. The common route was kind of boring, but I'm enjoying it enough that I've screwed up my sleeping schedule a couple times staying up late to read it. Granted, I have shit taste, so that may not apply to most people, but still.
I'll probably need to go back and re-read bits of the really early common route since my reading speed and comprehension was fucking awful compared to now. The difference in comprehension and speed is huge.
>>135293986
Genki I+II, Tae Kim, first 1k of Core6k, 600 kanji in RTK
Read 2 volumes of Yotsuba and Hanahira first. I strongly recommend reading Hanahira first.
I am on my 11th month of reading Flyable Heart. When I started everything was hard, now some things are easier. I don't understand everything, but that isn't my goal. My goal is to understand enough to enjoy the story and get lots of exposure to Japanese. I look up vocabulary constantly, but rarely look up grammar unless the line seems important and I can't make any sense of it.
The common route wasn't interesting, so it took a very long time to read. The characters routes are interesting and I enjoy reading them. The worst part is probably the beginning, because the dad talks ridiculously fast, and then you have to deal with some bureaucratic bullshit when you get to the school.
Overall, I think it is worth reading.
>>135294050
I'll give that one a try.
>>135294289
How long ago did you begin it and how much have you learned since then (primarily in vocabulary)?
鋼の剛腕に携えた漆黒を思わせる鈍い輝きを放つ戦斧はそう確信させるほどの、泰然たる様相を呈していた。
Are you for fucking real? I thought this was a simple chuuni game. I guess the structure's straightforward, but there's just a clusterfuck of words I don't know.
>>135294441
Mako Hunter isn't any easier. I only stuck with it because I really, really, really wanted to fuck the dark elf. I lost many nights of sleep staying up 24 hours straight doing nothing but reading and reading pounding away at alien moon runes in desperation to fuck a dark elf. In short, Mako Hunter isn't easier than Flyable Heart, it just has a fuckable dark elf.
>>135294398
The dad + bureaucracy are what killed me back then, I quit shortly after the opening car ride, sometime in the student council room.
>>135294441
>How long ago did you begin it and how much have you learned since then (primarily in vocabulary)?
Kind of depends. Did lots of starting and stopping without really mining or heavily reading. I got to the part where you first meet the student council and then I stopped for a few weeks. Started again 25 days ago at a rate of 60 words a day, so around 1500 words.
The common route is just really boring at times, Shou's dad talks way too fast and uses really long sentences (from the perspective of someone just jumping into native content), and there's a few scenes with infodumping that are kind of hard to read if your only reading experience is the example sentences in Tae Kim and DoBJG.
>>135294220
Get a Japanese friend who'll let you know when you sound like a faggot anglo.
>4 months in
>Can't read Sengoku Rance
I'm a bit salty.
>>135294576
The first couple times I started FH, I never made it past the dad. The combination of my New Years Resolution to study Japanese every day and the confidence I got from finishing Hanahira are what kept me going this time.
I actually kept the saves from all my failed starts. I tried twice in October 2013, once in March 2014, and finally started this run in February 2015.
>VN with porn scenes
>Has an option in the menus to to make the skip button work on unseen text
>Lose all motivation for that title once the goods have been seen
>>135293986
It fucking sucks.
>>135295046
Please don't say that. It's a good little novel.
>>135294909
>VN has amazing characters, romance, etc
>each route is approximately 50% boring bullshit about festivals
>skip through bullshit
>lose motivation to keep reading game due to skipping so much
Damn it, Hoshi Ori, you were so fucking good, yet you had to focus on a festival.
>>135295146
Festivals are the worst.
>>135295246
The worse part about it in Hoshi Ori is EACH ROUTE has it's own unique festival stuff so you can't just skip through the common route and then have a good time, you have to skip in character routes too.
I just want to see djt exiled.
>>135295146
>Hoshi Ori
How challenging is it? I'm probably a month away from finishing Flyable Heart, but I'm not really sure what I want to read after it. Seeing the "50+ hours" on vndb is a bit intimidating though since that basically means it'll take twice as long as Flyable Heart if not longer (if I go for 100% completion, which I usually do).
Remember to do your reps!
>>135295316
The only way it'll ever happen is if /lang/ is brought back with images, and even then there's a possibility that /djt/ will be allowed to have threads on /a/ for /a/ and the crossboarders can all go to /lang/'s /djt/. It only takes up 1 of 150 thread spots and is very easily filterable anyways, so anyone who is actually bugged by the existence of the thread on /a/ is a massive autist.
>>135295348
It's a moege, so it's just about equally as difficult as Flyable Heart. There's two red flags about the game's difficulty thought: there's a lot of architect vocabulary (scale model, PCP, that kind of stuff) because the MC wants to be an architect, and there's these phone conversations that don't change the "main text" of the game so you can't texthook them, and they move real-time and you can't scroll so if you're not keeping up with them you're not reading them. They're less than 0.2% of the game though, hardly anything.
The game really is absurdly large, the common route is extremely short (pretty much just introduces each character and then rushes into a choice between them) but each character route more than makes up for it with length. There's no sci-fi or really any story to it though, it's just 100% romance interwoven through the festival bullshit I mentioned, so yeah. The romance is god-tier though, I blush just thinking of the girls and the relationships we had, the things we did... ah man, it's so great. It's like I really was in love with someone who loved me back.
Wow I actually got worse at Japanese since I started following DJT's advice
Fuck you
>>135295457
The thing is, DJT is always fairly active, so any regular on /a/ is going to see DJT on the front page EVERY hour of EVERY day of EVERY year for literally as long as it's allowed to stay. I can see how that gets annoying. It's like a thread that never dies, always getting in the way. If someone's not a regular of DJT and keeps seeing it over and over on the front page (or in the catalog), yeah, I can see some desire to remove it.
>>135295603
You can't talk or write in Japanese anymore either, huh?
>>135295640
折れわ２本
>>135295612
>browsing via the front page
>on a board as active as /a/
In that case it's their own fault. The board moves fast enough a lot of the time that stuff gets knocked off the front page in less than a minute. And even then you can still filter the thread if you hate it that much, and then you'll never ever see it again unless someone fucks up the thread title.
>>135295457
>It only takes up 1 of 150 thread spots and is very easily filterable anyways, so anyone who is actually bugged by the existence of the thread on /a/ is a massive autist.
All it takes is another 149 people with your option to spam a thread till it becomes accepted as a general and /a/ has thousands of posters every day. Overall that isn't very well thought out.
>>135295663
墨羽外姑苦参
>one (thing) = ひとつ
>two (things) = ふたつ
>three (things) = みっつ
>four (things) = よっつ
>five (things) = いつつ
Is there a pattern or reason for this besides the つ ?
Anyone know difficult is White Album 2 to read? I think that's going to be my endgoal in this journey.
>>135295878
Native readings in contrast to Chinese origin readings.
A pretty good overview:
http://www.imabi.net/l22numbersiicounters.htm
>tfw you've tried to make two arguments ITT at over the past hour, and in both cases, you've looked them over them and realized that they had a horrible, almost random flow, and attempts to organize them didn't end much better
I think that I should give up on trying to argue about Japanese while I'm so sleep deprived. Maybe I should goread.
>>135295775
we can just get our good buddy hiro to make us an anime generals board since we need more useless boards
>>135296126
>we need more useless boards
It's 2ch culture which Hiro is unfortunately part of.
>>135285869
The spreadsheet is now up to date.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LIuShb6L9FDBQpx7Yy9FgNyzp4tLMwtMCc26-TZMaBo/edit?usp=sharing
If there are any other manga series any anon is interested in being added to the CoR, and it under or very close to 450円 per volume, post them here in response to this post.
>>135296126
I want a ラーメン board before that.
>>135295775
>All it takes is another 149 people with your option to spam a thread till it becomes accepted as a general and /a/ has thousands of posters every day.
Slippery slope fallacy in action. Come back when your argument is actually starting to reflect the state of /a/.
>>135296356
Noticed I've set the link so people can leave comments.
Leave requests as comments and they should come to me directly as an email. That could be more direct than posting here.
>>135296402
>Slippery slope fallacy in action.
A fallacy does not make something invalid.
>Come back when your argument is actually starting to reflect the state of /a/.
It already does. There are generals which only exist due to lazy modeators and anons spamming them with nonsense to bump the thread for as long as possible. The ゆるゆり general is the perfect example of this in motion.
>>135295878
ひーふーみーよーいつむーななやーここと
>>135296463
>A fallacy does not make something invalid.
This is known as the "fallacy fallacy", wherein someone points out a fallacy in an argument to discredit it without actually making a legitimate argument.
>>135296463
Then go complain there and stop filling our thread with this stupid shit all the time. This thread has been here for years, the mods approve of it, so fuck off.
>>135296356
聲の形 and 黄昏乙女×アムネジア
>>135296414
Added them to the CoR. Thanks again for the contributions. I'll try to check the feedback every few days, but for future threads if you're posting in the thread and want to guarantee that I'll see it and add it relatively quickly, just reply to the yuushapost.
>>135296463
>A fallacy does not make something invalid.
Correct in this case. The slippery slope fallacy is an informal fallacy, meaning that the argument is not inherently fallacious. Rather, the argument is highly prone to being used in a fallacious manner.
In order to avoid the fallacious version of a slippery slope argument, you need to provide grounds to prove that your slippery slope is likely to occur. For example, when stating that an entrenched company is testing the waters to see if they could completely fuck their customers, and that things will get very, very bad for the industry's consumers unless customers fight back, you could point to previous instances where the company showed just how little they cared about their customer's freedom and well being. Would these people go that far? You're damn right they would. They've done it before, and they'll do it again. Their egos and complete disregard for the well being of society seem to know no bounds. Whether you turn out to be right or not, you at least provided reasonable grounds to back up your slippery slope.
However, you most certainly have not provided sufficient grounds to demonstrate that /a/ is under any kind of threat of being taken over by long running generals. You've shown a very small handful of outliers, easily hidden, and not about to knock discussion of your favorite show off of the board before its run its course assuming that people actually care.
>私がどうかしてた。ごめんなさい。
It's some form of apology, but what exactly is どうかしてた? Well, I know it's like "something got into me", that's what I saw on cheibukuro, but I'm not seeing how it forms anything like that. Looking it up, どうかして is "in some way/somehow or other", but I just don't see how that makes "Something got into me." Can anyone help me understand this?
>>135297133
>However, you most certainly have not provided sufficient grounds to demonstrate that /a/ is under any kind of threat of being taken over by long running generals.
That wasn't his intent, that was him just saying the defense is bad because it relies on tragedy is common.
>>135297162
どうかして◦いる
態度などが普通と違っている。変だ。
>>135297273
Makes sense I guess.
Just got to grade 6 in Kanji. Taking a break from kanji after grad 6 and starting the core 6k vocab deck.
Any suggested number on the amount of cards to do per day for that? Hopefully I could run through vocab at a fairly brisk rate from being familiar with around 1k~ kanji by then?
>>135297487
I realized I die every time I go to sleep anyway (persistent consciousness/ego is a myth) so I am not too concerned with suicide. If "I" want to kill myself I'll just take some sleeping pills and poof I wake up a different individual.
>>135297498
how long have you been studying kanji for
>>135297487
To those who used to learn words through Core and are now mining for an Anki deck, how heavy are reps now compared to before?
>>135297487
Sure, though looking back, it was really stupid.
Instead of killing yourself, just get your shit together. The fact that you're here means that your IQ is probably in the triple digits, which in turn means that you have something to offer the world (whether you realize it or not) and that it would be a shame for the world to lose you.
>>135297859
Reps went way higher when I was introducing, like, 1 new kanji per card. Now that I know all the kanji in my deck, pretty much, they've shot down to BELOW core levels, despite doing twice as many new cards.
>>135297552
Started around 4 months ago but I had some university experience so I know some grammar and vocabulary.
>>135297162
>どうかしてる
と
>どうかしてた
はだいぶ意味合いが違うと思うよ。おにいちゃん
>>135297891
those are surprisingly comforting words coming from an anon
>it's 3 a.m.
>I finished my reps hours ago
>>135298065
That was just randian propaganda to get you into a job and working to put money in jewish pockets. Don't believe his lies
>>135297487
I can't, I have to learn Japanese.
>>135297990
Sounds like it's pretty challenging when you start mining huh... As of right now with core I lose any will to read anything once I've done my reps and end up reading once a week, sometimes less. I hope that after I'm done with the 6k deck I'll have enough motivation to read and then do reps.
>>135298209
Your mental stamina will build.
>>135298209
The thing is that with Core, you see every word while reading because they're so common, but with mining, every word has a high chance of being something you don't see all day.
As for reading, it was a struggle to read enough to get my 20 words per day in the beginning. In the end though, reading just became fun so I wanted to do it. Well, more like I was compelled by my dick to read about anime girls, but either way. Ahh, what seemed to work for me, was to have reps on a schedule. Back then, it was start reps at 7pm. I set my new day to start at 11pm, so I would have a 4 hour period to do reps. If I was awake before 7pm, I'd say - may as well read, don't have to do any reps or anything. If it it was past 11pm, I'd say - well, reps are done, may as well read. And thereby, I ended up reading.
>>135298267
Also, break it up into chunks. Stop before you get tired enough that it begins to effect your ability to focus.
I do 150 reviews the first time, then do the rest a few hours later.
>>135298358
I can't rest knowing I have reps left. I'm the type to fall asleep in an instant. Happened to me a few times, naturally the next day ends up being a disaster and it turns makes my workload for the next few days hellish.
Meet Willy my wiggly wobbly worm, he poops alot and sleeps in a shoebox under my bed. When he gets older he will turn in to a beetle, then I will let him go free.
>判る
>>135298719
>解る
How did you guys start learning kanji/what method did/do you use?
>>135299014
>kanji
Just learn vocab.
>>135299014
I'm using the All in One Kanji Anki deck. I think it works pretty well.
>>135299034
Does that actually work?
>>135299359
Try it for yourself
>>135299359
Yes, there is some controversy over the usefulness of learning kanji alone, but learning vocab will within time teach you the readings of each kanji.
So every night when I go to sleep I listen to this Japanese talk show. I have no fucking idea what they are saying besides super basic words, but my theory is that sleep listening will inject 日本語 into my subconcious, magically making the language easier to comprehend because my brain is hearing it for 6+ hours(even though I don't understand it). This of course wouldn't ever replace actual listening practice, but I'm sleeping so it's not really wasted time. Has anyone else ever tried sleep learning? Am I retarded?
>>135299047
>>135299409
>>135299418
Great. I'll try that out.
>>135299493
As long as you believe it works, so it should, just keep at it.
>>135299493
Omelette du fromage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8
>>135299493
My own personal experience with this has been very negative. Rather than learn things while sleeping, it instead destroyed my quality of sleep, effectively hampering the memory consolidation process that sleep is said to provide.
That is, it made me un-learn the things I learned that day rather than learn new things. I am, however, an extremely light sleeper and cannot sleep with any sound around me, so maybe your own experience will differ.
>>135300343
Not to mention being extremely tired and being unable to study the next day.
>>135299493
>subconscious learning
BS, but so long as you use speakers and not earphones I guess whatever loss is negligible. To make the most of listening to things you don't understand at least make the effort of shadowing everything you hear.
I just downloaded Evenicle, there is also an iso called Everance
what the hell is it?
>first read, I can't fucking read anything
>go back to the beginning, I can now read it all perfectly
Fuck this shit. Maybe I need to sleep.
>>135297179
You'd that would be obvious but anons like such and >>135296607 are seem unable to differentiate an exercise of critically assessing reasoning used behind and argument and a personal attack. I don't want djt to be removed and never made such a claim, but being intellectually dishonest doesn't help anyone.
>>135296963
I'll see about those two series over the next 48 hours. Looks like it will only cost a few hundred 円 in total thanks to the discounts.
Words of wisdom.
>>135300376
Fuck
It crashed my chiitrans lite
>>135300376
Maybe look it up? Or check out the scan of the CD, it has description printed. Can you read it?
It's a short spin-off - "What if Rance was Evenicle's protagonist".
>>135300841
Oh wait, you're a machine translating cancer.
>>135300928
I'm not machine translating you idiot.
Fuck off.
>>135292841
There's a physical store that sells raws about half an hour away, so I'm planning on buying some books/comics/magazines there when I get approved for NEETbux.
>Not taking money from your country to spend on stimulating the Japanese economy
It's like yall don't even weeb.
>see a word in a VN I should know
>try to to think of the reading
>check the texthooker and see that I'm wrong
>unconsciously hit 1 on the numpad
Help, I've been brainwashed by Anki.
>>135300952
Yeah, yeah, right, you "read" VNs to study and you ust look up words you don't know - most of them.
>>135301008
2/3 of this general uses texthookers for VNs.
>>135301036
And that's why they stay in this general.
>>135301036
>2/3
Source?
>>135301078
If you're so good for this thread then why don't you fuck off already? Go be an asshole on /jp/.
>>135301091
あばよ
>>135301143
さらば
>>135300997
>unconsciously
No escape.
Why did everyone start playing Evenicle now and not back in April?
Reminder that Ramius and Kyou are best wives.
Silent hottest character.
andFelton was right
>>135301008
This thread is about learning Japanese if you didn't notice.
>>135300376
>>135300841
I played it before playing Evenicle but thematically I reckon it's better having played it after Evenicle
>>135301610
I'm trying to play it but this thing fills chiitrans with a lot of unneeded garbage text and makes it crash, haven't found any ways to stop that.
Even though the few lines I've read were fairly easy I don't want to look up every word and kanji by radical, I'll try with VNR now
>>135301644
>>135301675
sorry I screwed up the filenames
>>135301702
wow what the fuck is this shit
It messes with everything on your desktop
>>135292629
For the grammar dictionary (cloze) deck, what are the related cards until JLPT N2?
I'm too lazy to study all. Still around 60% Core6k
Thanks.
Are there any audio-only programs to help you learn this stuff?
I have 10 hours a day where I can listen to music/etc on my phone but I can't really do anything interactive, and I'm trying to get something productive done in that time.
>>135302299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ly42IsEtrU
>>135302370
I don't understand any of this though ;_;
>>135302402
>>135302402
almost made it
>>135302597
How can you be this bad at running a few steps while dribbling a ball and then throwing?
No wonder she became an idol.
>>135302859
have u ever seen me in pe
>>135302538
>>135302597
I'm looking for something like a school course that doesn't require input I suppose.
Just a good starting point, until I have a little more time to actually study it.
>>135302875
I haven't actually.
I'm not good at sports either, but I have trouble imagining how you'd fuck up basketball that badly if you're not doing it on purpose.
>>135303044
Spoilers, they're exaggerating "cute" traits like that very much on purpose.
>>135303075
>wanting a woman who can't even bounce her child off the floor and then throw it to you while being hunted by a siberian tiger
2/10 would not impregnate
>>135301702
>>135301943
Turning on "ignore new contest" seemed to help
VNR was such garbage, never again
>>135303075
god i wish the teeth thing would die
i like nice straight teeth dammit
>>135296963
聲の形
https://mega.nz/#F!S0V0BCbA!AO2jVsq-eyNGSu1ee0-QQA
All seven are in the process of being ripped and uploaded, so expect them all to The 10 volumes of 黄昏乙女×アムネジア should be up within the next 24 hours.
>>135303428
>so expect them all to
*so expect them all up within the next hour or so.
>>135302370
しのすけさん、すごいです
でも、N1聴解９０点くらい取れないと
わからないんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
>>135296356
>>135297082
I just thought about something. I may be the only one, but I parsed the whole CoR into Jdownloader and downloaded it. Could some sort of a "new" sign be implemented for the first week, that something is new in the CoR? I don't know wich manga/LN I got and wich I haven't downloaded yet.
>>135303582
Wouldn't it be rather easy to download a copy of the CoR spreadsheet and match it against a print out of the directly list of your content?
Remove everything but the names, dump them all into a single column and filter duplicates? That should leave only what you don't have.
>>135303654
Well, that does sound easy, but I have no idea how to do it, because I've never done that.
>>135303827
A copy of the CoR, I think it is current:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Out4RLy0X3KpHVcplpaYYAptpAreG7OVSrGDYE8RnAg/edit?usp=sharing
How to print your directory:
http://www.howtogeek.com/98064/how-to-print-or-save-a-directory-listing-to-a-file/
This is what I've done in the past for things like this for a simple solution. It might not be what you are after.
>>135303428
Many thanks anon
>>135303553
but the 聴解 score only goes up to 60 points
>>135296356
>If there are any other manga series any anon is interested in being added to the CoR, and it under or very close to 450円 per volume, post them here in response to this post.
Well, I can find Noragami online but the scans for some volumes really suck so I'll take a shot at requesting that. 429円 + tax on bookwalker.
>>135304460
He's talking about Rakuten, where you get a 450 yen coupon if you make a new account
>>135304539
What can you do with 450 yen? Buy candies?
For DoJG cloze deck, which cards area until N2?
Thanks.
>>135304539
Oh, I see. So he basically just keeps making accounts and buying volumes?
>>135304560
Buy a single volume of a manga or LN, which is what he's offering here...
>>135304460
This is taking advantage of the deal on at Rakuten: 450円 discount for new members. That aside, hasn't the recent firmware update of BW killed the decrypting tool? Around a month ago myself and a bunch of people were unable to bypass the updated DRM using the ripped from ｊ喫茶店.
>>135304560
>What can you do with 450 yen?
An example
http://search.books.rakuten.co.jp/bksearch/dt?o=0&s=1&v=2&spv=2&h=30&g=101904001&e=0&mt=0&cy=0&minp=400&maxp=499&sv=30
>>135304594
The DoJG volumes aren't based on the JLPT.
>>135304594
http://www.jgram.org/
Compare those lists with the content in the DoJG cloze deck and see what filters to the surface.
Noob here. そんな顔すんなって！
I wanna say this means don't make a face like that am I right?
>>135304447
まちがった。ごめんね
N1の最後の問題はあてようとしても当たらないくらい難しくつくってあるみたいだから、最後の問題以外は全問正解できたとすると、なんてん？
>>135305521
Yes. すんな→するな
where do japs stream viudeogames online?
https://twitter.com/Aotovnom/status/680354411017670656
>>135306063
nico
Don't bother, that site is complete garbage, leave it to the japs
>>135305521
>そんな顔すんなって！
I would stand by you.
みたいな感じで使うとおもうんだけど、どうなのかな
An anime I want to watch doesn't have subs so I'm left with no choice but to learn Japanese.
can't be that hard right
right
>>135306736
The point is, if anybody starts asking really dumb beginner questions it's probably me. Been meaning to do this for a while.
>>135306760
We get dozens a thread, nobody will even notice.
Unless they're really stupid like "what does は mean".
Don't worry, you'll quit in a week anyway.
>>135306873
Probably, but hopefully not.
That was a joke anyway, if the reason was that flimsy I wouldn't last a day.
What eroge are you fags learning Japanese for?
>あわわ！ごめんね…！すっかり、返信したつもりでいました…
Is this last bit something like "I totally meant to reply...?"
>>135307254
No, it's a common phrase meaning "I really didn't want to talk to you".
>>135307315
What does the でいました do in つもりでいました?
>>135307197
I started learning Japanese 2 years ago because Aiyoku no Eustia left me hanging with it's partial patch.
>>135307358
Go re-read your grammar material.
>>135306483
相手が悲しい顔をすれば、応援の為に「ほら、元気を出して」って・・・そんな風に？
>>135307391
So you don't know.
>>135307315
Or I totally thought I replied...? I'd like to know the translation of the sentence, not your interpretation. If you're on /a/ you probably already know you're society's trash and nobody wants to talk to you.
>>135307380
I remember waiting for that translation until I forgot about it. You've read it now, I assume - is it good?
>>135307358
He's pulling your dick, you had it right the first time.
>>135307475
Not the same anon.
>>135307463
Yeah, I started reading it 7 months after I started. Definitely well worth the read. It had great world building and atmosphere.
I want to learn joyo kanji. What's a good anki deck? I want to progress level by level, grade 1 - end of school.
>>135307560
Good to hear. That's more motivation for me to learn this damn language then.
>>135307590
It is kind of a vague question, what do you want to study about these kanji? There are websites for these 教育漢字、with interactive lists as per the following
https://www.nihongo-pro.com/jp/kanji-pal/list/strokes/gradeand there is a Japanese wiki page with lists you can copy paste. If you have an idea of what you want on the front and back of the deck I/other anons should be able to give accurate advice.
>>135307700
>>135307590
Keep in mind 教育漢字 covers about half of 常用漢字
>>135307700
>>135307760
How to read, meaning, and sample words.
Optional: Stroke order
>>135307825
TBQH the best for that is a vocabulary deck, like core6k, and kanjigrid to add words from kanji you're missing.
>>135307760
Not sure if the Joyo anki decks in shared decks on the anki site have what you are after but the updated kanji deck which was posted a few days ago can be modifed for more or less exactly that.
>>135307883
Anon wasn't asking for a vocab deck.
>>135307916
Yes he was. He was asking for a deck to learn readings, meanings and sample words that include jouyou kanji. That's a vocab deck.
>>135307475
Cheers, Anon.
>>135307883
>>135307916
>>135307945
I just want something that starts on low level kanji first.
>>135307945
If anon wants a deck for individual kanji study, it's not a vocab deck.
>>135308015
Give me a minute or two and I'll put together a screenshot of something and a few minor questions to find out what you are exactly after.
Is there an easy way to rip Niconico webcomics?
>>135307418
そんな風だよ。
笑って言われたら、元気出してください、の婉曲だとおもうよ。
真剣に言われたら、一緒に問題解決に行こう、の婉曲で使うかもしれないとおもうよ
>>135308064
Anon doesn't know what he wants, I suggested what I think would be the most helpful thing.
>>135308015
I believe the optimized core6k deck starts from 一 二 三 etc... But I don't know for sure. You should look into it. Either way, what counts as "low level kanji" is pretty subjective, you could easily argue that kanji for super common words like 勉強する are low level even though they aren't as simple-looking as, say, 乙 which is only used as a meme.
>>135308015
If you want to study kanji individually I wouldn't advise you to learn their readings. Not only is it a lot of effort to learn the readings individually like that, but it's also pretty easy to learn them as you learn vocab with the kanji in it.
Learning some words along with the kanji is nice, and that will teach you some of the readings as a bonus, but don't try to "master" the readings of the kanji or anything, just learn what's there in the words you'll be learning.
Also, I don't think you'll find something something quite like what you have in mind ready for use.
what is
来
in
もっと近くに来てください
used for
?
>>135308015
>>135308064
Okay, so pic related is a deck that was posted a few days ago, with an added field for the school grading order. If you want, take that image and remove things you don't want to appear on the card and change the order of things you do want, to suit what you are looking for.
Forming your own idea of your study path is important because you are taking responsibility of your learning as opposed to a passive approach of simply doing what others tell you to do without filtering out what you really don't give a shit about.
>>135308245
>Anon doesn't know what he wants
Which is why I'm trying to help anon find what he wants, not what I think he wants based on my preferences which likely have nothing to do with anon.
>>135308442
Why
do
you
post
like
this
?
And why are you making a question about what a word means when you don't even know one of the most common verbs in the language?
>>135308442
「くる」
来る＋ください→来てください
>>135308442
It's きて
もっと近く ← A little bit closer
来て ← Come
ください ← Please
>>135308064
Thanks kind anon.
>>135308408
>>135308245
I would just use the readings and sample words so I could easily remember them.
>>135308469
Basically this, which progress to grade 1 kanji to end of school.
>>135292674
One of the best things about growing up in New Zealand is the abundance of sheep to fuck.
>>135308550
>Basically this
Meaning the same layout but with an index for ordering the deck to show due cards by grade order? That can be can done if that is what you are after.
>>135308530
thanks
>>135308586
Yes. I figure studying by grade order would help me see my progress easier.
>>135300957
>caring about the nip economy
>implying you can do anything for a country that's going to lose the majority of its workforce in the next few years
You definitely need food stamps, because I doubt you'd be able to hold down an actual job.
>>135308469
This doesn't look very efficient, how many of those sample words do you even look at, let alone remember?
>>135308609
If that is what you are after and are keen for it, I can modify the deck in previous pic related. Depending on whether or not I can automate the process of not will depend on whether a link will be posted soon or some time before this thread dies.
>>135308639
They don't do food stamps in my country. I'd use them, though; carrying around coin and small notes just ruins walls.
>>135308676
>This doesn't look very efficient
Efficiency is a relative value entirely dependant upon the intended result.
>how many of those sample words do you even look at, let alone remember?
Do you need to remember them?
暑い
熱い
what happened to using the same kanji for one thing and basing its meaning off context
>>135308710
クソ素人
>>135308676
>how many of those sample words do you even look at,
All of them.
>let alone remember?
Something between 1 and 4, depending on the kanji. Of course, you don't include the words as part of the required recall for the card, you just look at them for exposure.
Source: I used to have a deck that's basically what anon described, and that's how it went for me.
PS: You might as well add the meaning of the example words to the deck too.
>>135308572
Well, it's better than fucking kangaroos anyway.
>>135308758
How does one even fuck a kangaroo? Sedatives?
just use core2k Jesus Christ
>>135297891
>IQ in triple digits
>posts on an anime board
ahahahaha
btw IQ isn't an accurate measurement of success, or even intelligence
>>135308804
>THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DO EVERYTHING
>kanji is symbols
>円 is circle
explain this faggots
>>135308784
In one of its three vaginas. Just give it a good punch first so that it doesn't kick you in the face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGsFdh1SPOA
きょうのよくわからないにほんご
>緡[sashi]
江戸時代、穴あき銭である９６枚の１文銭に
紐を通したもの。１００文扱いで取引された。
Is japanesePod good? Which section is the best to start off listening with. Im on my 6th VN btw, and I don't want something too easy to start of with.
Is upper beginner or low intermediate good sections for me?
>>135306873
I did one excruciating anki session of hiragana, quit, came back after a month and did another one, and I've somehow memorized all of the hiragana. Is my brain broken?
Come to think of it, isn't learning Japanese (or learning anything for that matter) just a race trying to learn more than you forget?
>>135308702
>they don't do food stamps in my country
I guess they trust you then. tbf, you are at least doing something with your life. One of the american NEETs I know does nothing and won't even do shit like go for 10min walks.
Anyone else trying out for the MEXT 2016 scholarship?
>>135309596
Do you not understand the point of anki? It's trying to keep all that shit in your brain.
The more you encounter something, the longer you'll remember it for. Eventually, you get to the point where most of the stuff you know won't be forgotten for a year or two, and then it's just a case of re-enforcing that knowledge by reading occasionally.
>>135309596
Ah, man. You just have to remember shit. It's not hard.
>>135309596
You could say that of any relig-- subject.
>>135309645
Nah, that's for rich kids and frat boys.
>>135309645
no, I'd rather get a degree at an American or Euro university. The jap education system is absolutely awful.
>>135308609
The has been altered and reordered to match the school grading system, using the grade order from wikipedia.
https://mega.nz/#!egUXUSSb!_OTiv4XXRsT1I45OEMGbw2Y2RNl2DizQMONSAtUTpxQ
If you ultimately don't like the ordering, there are another handful of indexes you can use to reorder the deck.
Run down on how to do exactly that:
1. Select field you want to arrange the due cards by, set as "Sort by his field in the browser"
2. In browser, click on the Sort Field so it is arranged from 1 or 0 to the highest number, ascending order.
3. Click on card, Ctrl+a to highlight all cards in deck.
4. Edit: Reposition... Start position: 0 (Shift position of existing card [tick box]) OK
5. The Due column should now match the sort field from 0/1 and ascending.
>>135309731
I just want to get out of my third world country, and japan is completely free if I get the scholarship. Had to pay to study in euro or america tho.
someone buy gyaruko manga and upload please
>>135309970
「おしえて! ギャル子ちゃん」という漫画？
>>135310054
yes
>>135309929
Don't forget that they'll send you right back once your studies are over. You might end up killing yourself if you aren't prepared for the shock.
>>135310082
Sell it to me and I'll see.
Do I just need to watch more anime to learn about Japanese interjections?
I typed out ワウ！to someone and they laughed at me and said Japanese don't say that
>>135310260
should have said sugooooooi desu
intentionally in english to fuck with them
>>135310260
ワオ is used though
>>135310260
>I typed out ワウ！to someone and they laughed at me
>>135310085
That's fine, if you have a degree from another country here, you are assured a great job. I do love my country but the education system is fucked up.
>>135310223
don't know shit about it
but the girls look cute, protag is a gyaru and it's getting an anime
i understand if you don't want to waste your money
>>135309054
symbols != pictographs
Learn English first.
Post dem words that you can't differentiate no matter how many times you see um in anki
じめじめ
じわじわ
うじうじ
FUCKING ADVERBS AGHH
>>135309054
It's a simpler replacement of 圓, which was a member of the staff encircled by a fence.
>>135310562
you mean logograms
>>135310599
I had quite a bit of trouble with
すっかり、しっかり、すっきり、さっぱり for a while.
>>135310767
Sorry >>135310562 I had a brainfart and used "you" instead of "they"
>>135310773
How? You hear/see those all of the time.
>>135310773
Mmm those are a bitch luckily pretty common though
>>135310773
I know すっきり is what you say after having sex
>>135310828
mostly when I was seeing them in anki, in context they always made sense though.
>>135292629
can someone link to me the last version of ITH? Mine don't work anymore, not even with VN i have already read.
