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>>135104942
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
出来無い
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Work hard, play hard, dream big, love loads, laugh as much as you can, and give back.
おそっ
「無一物」
仏に逢えば仏を殺せ
祖に逢えば祖を殺せ
何物にも捕われず
縛られず
ただあるがままに己を生きる
I started studying Japanese (as my first foreign language) in 2003. I could always excel in classes in both college and afterward in local adult learning classes. But as soon as soon as I had to actually try having a conversation with a Japanese person, I just couldn't do it. The closest I got was spending two months in Tokyo with the sole purpose of learning Japanese. I made more progress in those two months 10 years ago than I ever made in months/ years of classes here in the u.s. Problem is, I can't make a trip like that again in the forseeable future.
What's the best advice for getting close to that kind of immersion while being stuck in Pennsylvania? I'm really not the biggest anime fan, but is that my best bet for listening comprehension?
I should have at least passed the JLPT 3 with the content I've digested and practiced over the years, but never got there. Trying to avoid a life regret of not finishing what I started in 2003.
>>135141792
Skype some jap bitches?
Any tips for writing kanji legibly in standard size writing? I was just learning the word 書く and thinking there's no way you would recognize it unless it's contextual or there is no other kanji that looks anything like it.
>>135141896
Get a pen with a very fine point, or use a mechanical pencil
>tfw no djt boyfriend on Christmas
Hello everyone, please allow me to use the chance while the thread is still young to shill my endeavors:
So the new DJT guide has finally been started on.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H8lw5gnep7B_uZAbHLfZPWxJlzpykP5H901y6xEYVsk/edit?usp=sharing
You will find some goals I outlined at the top of the guide, let me know if there's anything you think should be added or changed to these. Hopefully the guide will be able to answer to all of these once it's complete.
Please feel free to leave comments as it develops, any feedback is highly appreciated.
Happy holidays.
>>135142201
Mate, we don't like faggots here. Go talk to your cabin mates if you want a dick in your arse.
>>135142500
DJT is canonically gay. We're also non-practicing Catholics.
>>135142643
You mean Tao
>>135142670
I really don't.
>>135142763
I'm no catholic.
>>135142780
Then you don't belong here. But we'll forgive it.
>>135142780
But you're a faggot
>>135142815
Go away.
Reading a LN (俺の妹) and saving every unknown word. Do you guys treat mined decks in the same regards as something like core, with a limit on new cards a day? Or is there a recommend approach to mined words?
>>135142933
If you do an unstable number of new cards per day then your daily reviews will be ridiculously unstable. This is actually bad for long term retention of mature cards that you rep on days with large review spikes.
>>135142980
>If you do an unstable number of new cards per day then your daily reviews will be ridiculously unstable.
Not really.
>>135143027
>Implying you know anything you're talking about
>>135142980
Nah, you just take a little shitposting break in the middle and it'll be all right.
>>135142643
We're catholic priests when imouto is here if you know what I mean.
>>135143027
That's the one part of that post that *can't* be argued against.
I want to cum inside a twinky djt wimpy boy here
>>135143104
You're probably the biggest wimp here.
>>135141896
>Writing
Give up now you stupid fucker
>>135142643
It's a strange feel to be so sympathetic to Catholicism so much and like it so much despite being so degenerate... Good thing I've learned to live cognitive dissonance.
>>135143104
I'd take some cum. Where do you live?
>>135143104
But anon, that's forbidden love.
>>135143359
No love involved baby, just やり逃げ
But in all seriousness would you date another man if you both were cute and studied Japanese everyday? Watching the same anime and reading the same manga and books and cuddles?
>>135143257
Catholicism went down the shitter after Vatican II. You should find a new religion to bum.
儂は日本じゃ！
>>135143523
じゃのう＊
>>135143424
I wouldn't date him, but I'd subtly place my sexual organs in his anal regions if he's enough of a trap.
>>135143438
Can't I still admire real Catholicism even though the Jews have seized control of the institutional Church for now? Catholicism has recovered from bad times before, they just need to get a strong traditionalist Pope who will bring back the Latin mass and fix the overly anthropologically centred theology of the last few decades.
拙者は日本でござる
>>135143409
>wham bam thank you mam
>hit it and quit it
>fuck and chuck
I LOVE RIKAISAMA
>>135143714
>Jews
>anthropologically centred theology
>>135143804
The Holy Church has turned itself into a house of cuckery where the once-proud Vicar of Christ is only too happy to kiss the feet of Muslim thugs and other scum.
>>135141548
>no hat
Whoops, fixed.
It's Christmas Eve!
All I want for Christmas is to become a cute little girl and get taken in by an older woman who takes care of me in return for sexual favours.
>>135142490
Did you get edit access to the main site yet? I asked him to give it to you too when he gave it to me. You could add a link to the WIP guide there if you want.
>>135144154
What's the nukige here?
>>135144247
https://vndb.org/v10357
>>135144154
>>135144247
>>135144276
what's the cutest non-sexual vn out there?
>>135144276
>kimomen
Oh no
>>135144314
Time passes.
>>135144404
why are the kanji readings in katakana everywhere? i thought that katakana was just used for foreigner words and shit. I'm using kanji recognizer for android.
>>135144536
Some places puts the on-yomi in katakana because they're based on Chinese readings.
God I fucking hate visual novels. Only the biggest weebs could love this trash. Manga > Anime > The pleasure of being cummed inside > WaniKani > VNs
>>135144749
>>135144749
>WaniKani
Too far.
>>135144698
Makes sense. Thanks.
>>135144784
Well you can get a lifetime sub for 33% off this holiday if you want to check it out.
>>135144842
Stop, someone will actually buy it
>>135144749
>Hating an entire medium
Nice autism
Why do I sometimes see ワタシ and some other words written in katakana? What exactly is being implied?
>>135144904
Japanese hipsters
>>135144875
LIFETIME. You're whole fucking LIFE. Is good deal.
>tfw spent two years learning japanese to read chuunige
>tfw they just write in English anyway
>>135144925
>>135144842
>$199.00
>>135144931
That looks like shit. Can you not turn off the translation?
>There are people who would pay two hundred dollars for a locked proprietary service that teaches you wrong information
>>135145012
WaniKani is what some people need. Gamification and the slow pace go a long way. Not everyone can keep up with 20 words a day (that have absolutely no context, by the way) in Anki and learn anything from it.
>>135144154
The plotge says
"the start of the attack is anticipated within the next thirty minutes, because of the developing situation with enemy's support units, you are allowed to use up to 100 kilotons of nuclear weaponry. The need for emergency interceptions are recognized"
Or am I off the mark?
>>135144134
Just post your login details here and I'll sort it all out.
Is there a good dark fantasy VN like Berserk? Preferably without any maritime adventures.
>>135145122
Aiyoku no Eustia is the best dark fantasy I know of that isn't a nukige.
年末の仕事って、忙しくて、忙しくて、忙しくって
じつにたのしいとおもうよ。おにいちゃん
>>135145079
Nukige says "Nya, A god's dick... Goddick".
>>135145051
>Not everyone can keep up with 20 words a day
>that have absolutely no context, by the way
>play VN
>get as much words as you can handle
>do Anki
>replay the same section again
>pay nothing
>>135144931
What's that ugly cuck plane supposed to be?
>>135145051
Well memed
That's a pretty good deal on WaniKani though.
>>135145191
Not him, but what is the difficulty level if I don't really want to miss something plot-wise due to misinterpreting something / not understanding something? Can I jump straight into it after Flyable Heart or should I read a couple more moege/charage first?
>>135144134
>Did you get edit access to the main site yet?
Do you mean the bunch of google docs? I've got access to those if that's what you're talking about.
Ive been here for two years and I have no clue what wanikani is.
>>135145286
If it takes you so long to do WK that you would pay 200 dollars on it, that's a problem with either you or wanikani.
>>135145312
Yeah, that's what I meant.
>>135145328
It's a paid flashcards service that only gives you access to flashcards that you know the component information of. Its SRS system is really bad, it's a closed proprietary system, you can't export your progress (scheduling info), it teaches bullshit info (especially on radicals), etc.
is there any offline dictionary apps that have example sentences? Ive tried tagaini jisho and jwpce. basically i'm looking for the app imiwa or midori for pc
>>135145292
Aiyoku no Eustia is well know for it's simple grammar, however it has a fairly high vocabulary level and has 2,454 kanji, it's not something you should fear and put off forever like Muramasa but you'll probably have a hard time if it's just your second VN. Well, you'll have a hard time with anything as your second VN I think.
>>135144990
Nope. They only speak English on the radio though so it's not a big deal. It's funny because it's obvious the seiyuu are struggling to read from their script, so to a full blooded English native such as myself the intended effect of it is ruined.
>突然 すいません 幻影天龍のマスターＲｉｓａです。 チームに入って まったり 楽しく遊びませんか？
How do I tell this guy thank you for the offer? I already told him I'm shit at Japanese.
>>135145709
"はい、セックスしましょう"
>>135145709
ありがとう、けど居身じゃない
>>135145709
The heck is this about
>>135145801
Thanks, I think he got it. He took off his clothes and is following me around for some reason now though.
>>135145803
What the hell is 居身?
>>135145886
A guy that's role playing asking me to join his team in a game.
>>135144154
This was better.
>>135146038
>That plotge
Might as well learn chinese
I have a fairly large Japanese vocabulary, and seem to pick up basic grammar and the rules of Japanese sentence structure relatively easily. But I need to learn a shit ton of kanji, (of which I know only a handful.)
Anki has been super cool. But my question:
I don't mind studying off VNs per se, but to be honest I'd rather study from manga or something else. Are there any obvious cons to this I'm missing?
I mean, I know I can'teasilycreate new cards for anki from manga.
>>135146038
Hopefully intermediate hell explained 3 will be better.
>>135146026
>What the hell is 居身?
It was supposed to be 興味.
If you don't own a firearm you deserve whatever happens to you.
>>135143801
BASED
>>135145354
Cheers. I'll take a look at it now that I have the time.
>>135146079
VNs have voice acting. That's about it IMO.
>>135146079
Just be yourself. Did you read that Yotsuba beginner pack?
>>135146151
go fuck yourself you american dog, are you that lacking in self esteem that you need a gun to make you feel like a big man
>>135146256
>Muslim mad he can't rob me and rape my family.
Love those tears.
>>135146079
I've grown to dislike manga because it's 100% dialogue so you get a lot of shitty colloquialisms and slang, which is all pretty much just hyper slurred and shortened versions of actual Japanese, and to me it doesn't make any sense to focus on the slurred shit before you master the proper shit
>>135146079
>fairly large Japanese vocabulary
>only a handful of kanji
????????
>>135145257
It's not a meme. There's definitely a segment of learners that need stuff like Wanikani to succeed. I guess it's debatable whether using Wanikani isn't failure in itself, but that's another question.
>>135146256
Fuck off, shitter. You'd be speaking German right now if America hadn't saved your feeble fucking ass.
>>135146291
Basically if you pay for wanikani you've already given up. As long as you don't pay for wanikani or other fishoil you have hope.
>>135146281
Yeah man be a hero and protect your family you pathetic excuse of a human
>>135146300
>>135146281
Blatant samefags, can't wait till you get shot by someone. Preach about gun laws after that yeah
J A P A N E S E
>>135146371
>Blatant samefags
Hah, you think you know it all, don't you? You little bitch. I'll show you how the world works.
>>135146393
Sucks weeny.
Fuck off you off topic shiters.
>>135146220
For listening comprehension. Makes sense.
>>135146227
I've read through the whole guide but to be honest I haven't yet checked out everything on it.
>>135146285
That makes a LOT of sense. I didn't even think about that. I'm still gonna try and read some manga but maybe actual books will do me some better.
>>135146289
It's a little strange I know, I took Japanese for two years in high school and they mostly used romaji and eventually moved onto to kana. From there I kinda stopped studing for a few years but remember all kinds of words and picked up even more from watch anime. But ask me to write them or read them and I fucked.
As such I've had very basic conversations with Japanese people shopping at where I work. But I'm definitely far from fluency and I can only make the simplest of sentences. Like I said though, the grammar isn't proving to be too difficult. But I need to learn kanji!
>>135146472
> I'll show you how the world works.
I fucking cringed
>>135146545
世界のやり方貴方の幼稚な自分を見せるよ
>>135146612
>世界のやり方
Just stop man, it's just embarrassing
>>135146543
Should probably just start with yotsuba, she only speaks in kana and all the other characters speak in pretty simple terms so it'll probably be a good initial test of your abilities
>>135146851
Thanks man! Will do!
God damn I keep getting 持つ and 待つ mixed up
>>135146961
>持つ
Hand radical on the left
You hold shit with your hand
>>135146961
Look at the left hand radicals, 持つ has the "hand" radical, so "hold" and 待つ has the "people" radical, so "wait (for someone).
>>135146993
>>135147008
Turns out RTK does help after all.
>>135146993
>>135147008
Great thanks guys
>>135146961
>波 坂 皮 板 版
>fuck this
>>135147102
Nope I used kanjidamage
>>135147008
Isn't the radical on 待 the left go radical? 侍 has the left people radical
>>135147130
I didn't even do RTK and I can distinguish all of those. Feels good.
>>135147102
Urm no, I just read a short guide somewhere. I'm a firm believer of doing 20 kanji a day, on paper with くん・おん and the general meaning(s). (Look at the words it's used in and what the dictionary says).
>>135147158
Eh, kanjidamage is just a worse RTK.
>>135147130
波
water radical = pond
坂
earth radical = hill
板
tree radical = plank
Rakuten's the best source for ripping LNs, right? EBJ doesn't have a desktop de-DRM yet, I think.
What's the difference between 丘 and 坂?
>>135147158
I'm fucking retarded, shows how much I know. Yeah you're right.
>>135147202
Gets the job done, the quality of resources really mostly depends on the person using them
>>135147241
>the quality of resources really mostly depends on the person using them
That is not true at all, the effectiveness perhaps but not the quality
妹の味
>>135147205
>波
>water radical = pond
Don't you mean 池 m8? Pretty sure that 波 is wave
>>135147641
O yeah shit
I guess I can't learn Japanese after all
Still watery though
Is there any difference between using かろう or だろう at the end of sentences?
Seems like just preference so far
>>135147783
Read up on it m8.
>>135147783
>かろう
This is a thing?
>>135147826
Look up
蝦夷
rare kanji for you rare kanji dietitians
>>135147820
>not a single example of かろう being used
>>135148088
Sorry, I like my rare kanji to be useful in some way.
I bet even a jap would recoil at the sight of this.
Normal Japanese: 分かる
Chuuni Japanese: 判る
It's like fucking clockwork
Hi friends. I've been learning mostly through Anki and through reading. I can understand things pretty well, but when it comes to production I can't think of the simplest things in regards to grammar. For example, I can't think of how to ask "which of the following do you like more?" If I continue going through sources like the DoJG, will things like that be mentioned, or is there something else that will be more useful afterward for actual production in conversations?
>>135148188
Watch a lot of anime/television, it becomes easier to think of what to say when you have real voices in your head. The answer to getting better is always exposing yourself to more Japanese.
>>135148155
>>135148170
I see the second one in pretty mainstream RPGs though.
Which of the grammar decks in the OP is the correct one?
I mean the one that was edited to actually make sense.
>>135148235
RPGs are chuuni by definition
>>135148141
新しかろう
That kind of thing.
>>135148276
What does chuuni mean to you? Because the RPG I'm thinking of takes place in modern Japan. And none of the main characters are nerds or anything like that.
>>135147102
Not the anons who replied but I had a similar mnemonic and I only use anki
>>135148339
Middle school
>>135148339
That certain euphoria the characters display.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
To my understanding, to speak Japanese naturally you must have it naturally bloom from your brain. If you have to pause and think a lot to construct sentences using DOJG as reference for example, it's likely you'll come out with something awkward, unnatural, or perhaps even wrong, for the most case. See: Lang-8 people spending a long time making journals that end up shitty. So, natural blooming, like how you speak your own language, not really constructing it but instead just naturally having it come out in a linear fashion. To acquire this blooming in Japanese, it's really best to just expose yourself to a lot of correct Japanese, and speak yourself to get used to the process. Corrections aren't even a big deal, necessarily - a corrected sentence is just a single correct sentence, while reading a book exposes you to tens of thousands of correct sentences. I don't think that reading grammar books in an attempt to get better at producing Japanese will really reap much benefit - am I wrong? Just listening and reading should be more than enough in the grammar department. It will take a lot of time to get fluency though, no matter what. If you find yourself struggling to say certain things, reading more is the best option. I just saw someone yesterday say "how would you say something has a low probability" and just now I said 可能性は低い. On a large scale, reading and listening should answer all such questions. Am I wrong?
>>135149079
you'll never be able to produce the sounds they do, so you'll sound bad no matter how correct your grammar is.
they cant L, R or V and we cant ryu, wo or probably a dozen others
>>135149079
All you need is anime and producing practice
>>135149222
>being an ameriburger or an EOP
Must suck having such a limited range of sounds
>>135149222
But thats not true at all
>>135149297
>Must suck having such a limited range of sounds
Japanese has the least sounds out of any major spoken language I believe so that insult doesn't really mean much
>>135149297
i never wanted to produce anyway, i dont particularly enjoy listening to their engrish so why would i subject them to my wapanese, too cruel
>>135149222
I remember someone posting a vocaroo here (not the saikou one) and they had a near perfect Japanese accent. You just gotta listen a lot and you should reach the same level.
Heck reading some dl site VNs, some VAs have awful accents, can't be worse than them
>>135149222
Spot the anglo.
>>135149222
https://youtu.be/ejRkuX1RGf4?t=14s
>inb4 ajatt
Regardless he's still good
>>135149324
While you are correct, that doesn't change the intended insult since it relates to english's own faults in producing sounds related to japanese rather than japanese producing sounds related to english.
>>135149543
I'm gonna choose not to watch this because knowing he's better than me will make me feel bad.
>>135149558
The insult was solely "must suck having a limited range of sound" which is not a really meaningful insult when we're all here learning a language with far fewer sounds. So, I doubt any EOP here is feeling insecure about how many sounds they can produce.
>>135149481
>>135149543
ill give allowances to people with good ears that could become decent singers, but anyone else not wanting to train in this fashion(or has smoked a lot) is gonna sound bad, just saiyan
>>135149505
>spot the non asian trying to learn an asian langauge
call the cops
>>135149688
>but anyone else not wanting to train in this fashion(or has smoked a lot) is gonna sound bad, just saiyan
>Being shit at something you dont practice
Wow what a surprise
>>135149749
Finnie watched a ton of anime and never practiced Japanese but still gained fluency
>>135149617
That would be true if the post before the insult didn't exist.
>you'll never be able to produce the sounds they do, so you'll sound bad no matter how correct your grammar is.
It clearly says that english speakers typically can't produce the sounds needed to speak japanese in the same manner as a native.
To anyone who speaks more than english this claim sounds ridiculous since most romance languages incorporate the same sounds as are found in japanese.
>>135149688
>or has smoked a lot
Sounds like you are making excuses for being bad
>>135149793
His insult should have been, "must suck having a range of sound outside of Japanese's", rather than "having a limited range", because the latter becomes hardly meaningful in the context of Japanese learning.
>>135149848
I thought the meaning was implicit given the context, but I'll take it into consideration for the next time.
>>135149773
?
So?
The original argument was >you will never be able to produce the sounds they do
which is bullshit and I gave a example. The fuck does finnie have to do with anything? We werent talking about fluency
>>135149894
You said
>Being shit at something you dont practice
>What a surprise
which is fallacious considering that plenty of people are good at things without having to practice.
>>135149773
Have you ever heard him speak?
>遠慮せず
>>135150075
Fuck off frogposter.
approved my first jap exam 5 hours ago
happy クリスマス, first time i have been here on DJT since i first started studying back in august
>>135150238
>first time i have been here on DJT since i first started studying back in august
You haven't learned anything.
>>135149925
If he's listening to anime while watching hes practicing idiot.
Where the fuck did the name finny come from?
>>135150075
>良くある
>>135150352
He's finnish
>>135150283
Well, at least he hasn't been getting cucked by his waifu like some people.
can someone tell me why this sentence 祈り信じよされば救われん isn't negative?
unless the english translation is wrong.
>>135150403
Fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC_ndsrNF8o&feature=youtu.be&t=435
>tfw can't follow this at all
>>135150462
>では無い
>目に見えて
>>135150453
む -> ん
It's archaic.
Wow, that took a long time to pull from my memory.
>>135150453
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1387838598
>>135148188
The only way to learn that type of stuff is to actually live in Japan and speak in Japanese 24/7. And I'm not your friend fuccboi
>>135151283
You do not have to live in Japan to learn Japanese, fuckboy
>>135151298
Talking about production pussyfart
>>135151437
Production is Japanese.
>>135150689
>>135150863
Thanks.
I'm going to assume this is another one of those things that never gets used in real life.
>>135151619
I originally saw it in a LOGH quote. So, it's not conversational Japanese but it is something that people use.
>>135145051
>that have absolutely no context, by the way
This meme needs to die.
Anki allows the user to create ANYTHING they want to study. If words don't have enough context to understand, it's the fault of the user.
You may as well say that example sentences and definitions in dictionaries have absolutely no context.
>>135145391
By app I am assuming you are referring to the Android operating system?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sk.baka.aedict&hl=en
You can load dictionaries with example sentences are the like in Aedict, everything is off line after the dictionary files are downloaded/installed.
There is also DroidWing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aokabi.android.droidwingfree
You can load epwing dictionary files and use dictionaries you want, along with the example sentences. Off line as well.
>read hard VNs to learn more obscure vocabulary and complex abstract grammar structures
>read easy VNs to reinforced what I already know and get closer to aural and speaking fluency
Choices, choices
>>135152303
Watch anime so your listening isn't dogshit
>>135151964
Anki means core
>>135150863
So used to reading similar ん shifts in manga which are negative that never in a million years would I have assumed this was 辞書形＋意向形. Damn.
>>135152373
Internet means Reddit.
>>135152443
>Internet means Reddit.
You're a cunt
>>135152303
>read VN
>speaking fluency
>reading history books in Japanese actually helped with understanding porn games
What a twist!
>>135152458
>Anki means core
>You're a cunt
I agree.
>>135152373
You can edit core cards too, you know.
>>135152373
I must have really fucked up then cause I thought I was using anki for the past 3 years but I never touched core.
>>135152600
This is true, I deleted all the newspaper words.
>>135152600
Anon is just a shitposter looking for attention.
>>135152493
>not reading all the protagonist's dialogue out loud
>>135152627
Which words are those?
How long does it take any of you to remember any kanji from Anki? It's hard for me to remember anything ;_;
>>135152688
What are you trying to remember about the kanji? What are your prompts?
>>135152688
Reading practice will help a lot
>>135152715
What you mean by prompts?
Whenever I have a card in anki I always right it down about twenty times, saying it each time. I still can't remember them well.
Am I just being very impatient?
南無阿弥陀仏
何かが生きるためには
何かが死ぬ必要がある
命の価値は、すべて等しい
ひとりが勝つためには
ひとり負ける必要がある
誰かを生かしたいなら
もうひとりは、
そう。わかりますね
殺せばいい。
簡単なことです
>>135152794
I added this word to my mining deck while reading Majikoi.
>>135152782
>What you mean by prompts?
What is on the front of your card.
It is very hard to give a personalised answer that is of any use to you if I/others aren't sure of exactly what you are doing with those cards. I'll explain by example what I mean.
Pic related is an Anki deck I use for kanji. The top red boxed off area, the front of the card, contains an English keyword with common On and Kun readings. The way in which I remember about the kanji in this deck is by using those front prompts to recall the correct kanji and write it out. The rear of the card has the kanji with stroke order to assess whether or not I remember about that kanji, along with additional bits of information in case I want to study that kanji in other ways. I only write the kanji down once for the card as it appears.
>Am I just being very impatient?
Maybe? Would you be able to explain how you are studying kanji which is causing you this sense of anxiety?
>>135153006
Might help if I post the image.
>>135153030
>all that completely useless information
>kanji on back, not front
RIP anon
>>135153048
It's a production deck.
>all that completely useless information
Such as?
>>135153030
Jesus christ
It reminds me of pic related
>>135153072
On reading, kun readings, stroke count (already on image), Heisig number, frequeny, kanken grade, english keyword (as opposed to Japanese).
>production deck
It would be better to have
あらわす
on the front then. As little English as possible is the best way to go
>>135152671
All the dumb ones that you never see.
冒険をしに日本にいく。
This is a simple sentence but I'm having trouble figuring out what "し" is doing here.
>>135153119
Yeah you're an idiot.
>>135153129
There are over 6,000 kanji in this deck. I'd like to see how you can possible balance that out using a single reading. It isn't a vocab deck.
It's great that you feel the need to comment but it's clear you have no idea what the purpose of the deck is.
>>135153186
There are no words in Core6k that are
>dumb ones that you never see
You're going to see every single one of those in lowest common denominator Japanese media.
>>135153222
Get a load of this retard lecturing me when he has to learn 現 kek
>>135153196
するの連用形。
>>135153196
I'm guessing it's some version of する
>>135153319
>>135153326
Thanks. Guys.
>>135153006
I'm just using the 2k core deck, and it's mostly the on/kun readings. I can't remember them. I don't know why it feels so hard.
I get anxiety from failing, and I guess I feel like not remembering ASAP is failing.
>>135153196
Pic related.
>>135153267
It's a PRODUCTION DECK you FUCKING IDIOT.
It has over 6,000 kanji in it, so yeah, 現 is going to be one of those. Where do you people come crawling out of?
>>135153398
Pic didn't upload for some reason. 4chanX encountered an error but still posted.
>>135153222
I don't think learning readings out of context is ever helpful for actually learning Japanese. Furthermore, you ignored the bulk of the useless information, which leads me to believe you have no defense of them. And finally, if you're actually attempting to learn kanji using not only English keywords, but also 6,000 of them, then it's really YOU who doesn't know what he's doing.
>>135152845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
Never give up fellow makifag
>>135153398
How long have you been using it for?
>>135153446
>I don't think learning readings out of context is ever helpful for actually learning Japanese
The point of the deck is to learn how to WRITE THE KANJI. The readings, keywords, etc. are merely prompts.
> Furthermore, you ignored the bulk of the useless information
That information isn't useless.
>And finally, if you're actually attempting to learn kanji using not only English keywords, but also 6,000 of them, then it's really YOU who doesn't know what he's doing.
http://www.kanken.or.jp/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19zorQpMJi00-b6abuvE5uBAIsMMqWVrbeHD-bIrkggQ/edit?hl=en&pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
Please stop commenting on something you have no fucking clue about. Having more options doesn't mean you have to use everything. It's anki: you can remove what you want. The deck gives users many options so the user can choose what they want.
>>135153401
Says the guy who is trying to memorise how many strokes his kanji has
>>135153446
Nigger will you shut the fuck up?
It's plain as day that anon is using the deck to study kanji in a way you wouldn't. Fair enough; different people study in different ways. The most insufferable faggots on DJT are spergs like you who come bumbling in with a few months of learning and start telling other people they are doing it wrong because other people are studying different things.
It's as obnoxious as those guys who freak out when anons say they are learning to write or speak. Chill.
>>135153684
How's RTK treating you champ?
