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>>135104942
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
出来無い
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Work hard, play hard, dream big, love loads, laugh as much as you can, and give back.
おそっ
「無一物」
仏に逢えば仏を殺せ
祖に逢えば祖を殺せ
何物にも捕われず
縛られず
ただあるがままに己を生きる
I started studying Japanese (as my first foreign language) in 2003. I could always excel in classes in both college and afterward in local adult learning classes. But as soon as soon as I had to actually try having a conversation with a Japanese person, I just couldn't do it. The closest I got was spending two months in Tokyo with the sole purpose of learning Japanese. I made more progress in those two months 10 years ago than I ever made in months/ years of classes here in the u.s. Problem is, I can't make a trip like that again in the forseeable future.
What's the best advice for getting close to that kind of immersion while being stuck in Pennsylvania? I'm really not the biggest anime fan, but is that my best bet for listening comprehension?
I should have at least passed the JLPT 3 with the content I've digested and practiced over the years, but never got there. Trying to avoid a life regret of not finishing what I started in 2003.
>>135141792
Skype some jap bitches?
Any tips for writing kanji legibly in standard size writing? I was just learning the word 書く and thinking there's no way you would recognize it unless it's contextual or there is no other kanji that looks anything like it.
>>135141896
Get a pen with a very fine point, or use a mechanical pencil
>tfw no djt boyfriend on Christmas
Hello everyone, please allow me to use the chance while the thread is still young to shill my endeavors:
So the new DJT guide has finally been started on.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H8lw5gnep7B_uZAbHLfZPWxJlzpykP5H901y6xEYVsk/edit?usp=sharing
You will find some goals I outlined at the top of the guide, let me know if there's anything you think should be added or changed to these. Hopefully the guide will be able to answer to all of these once it's complete.
Please feel free to leave comments as it develops, any feedback is highly appreciated.
Happy holidays.
>>135142201
Mate, we don't like faggots here. Go talk to your cabin mates if you want a dick in your arse.
>>135142500
DJT is canonically gay. We're also non-practicing Catholics.
>>135142643
You mean Tao
>>135142670
I really don't.
>>135142763
I'm no catholic.
>>135142780
Then you don't belong here. But we'll forgive it.
>>135142780
But you're a faggot
>>135142815
Go away.
Reading a LN (俺の妹) and saving every unknown word. Do you guys treat mined decks in the same regards as something like core, with a limit on new cards a day? Or is there a recommend approach to mined words?
>>135142933
If you do an unstable number of new cards per day then your daily reviews will be ridiculously unstable. This is actually bad for long term retention of mature cards that you rep on days with large review spikes.
>>135142980
>If you do an unstable number of new cards per day then your daily reviews will be ridiculously unstable.
Not really.
>>135143027
>Implying you know anything you're talking about
>>135142980
Nah, you just take a little shitposting break in the middle and it'll be all right.
>>135142643
We're catholic priests when imouto is here if you know what I mean.
>>135143027
That's the one part of that post that *can't* be argued against.
I want to cum inside a twinky djt wimpy boy here
>>135143104
You're probably the biggest wimp here.
>>135141896
>Writing
Give up now you stupid fucker
>>135142643
It's a strange feel to be so sympathetic to Catholicism so much and like it so much despite being so degenerate... Good thing I've learned to live cognitive dissonance.
>>135143104
I'd take some cum. Where do you live?
>>135143104
But anon, that's forbidden love.
>>135143359
No love involved baby, just やり逃げ
But in all seriousness would you date another man if you both were cute and studied Japanese everyday? Watching the same anime and reading the same manga and books and cuddles?
>>135143257
Catholicism went down the shitter after Vatican II. You should find a new religion to bum.
儂は日本じゃ！
>>135143523
じゃのう＊
>>135143424
I wouldn't date him, but I'd subtly place my sexual organs in his anal regions if he's enough of a trap.
>>135143438
Can't I still admire real Catholicism even though the Jews have seized control of the institutional Church for now? Catholicism has recovered from bad times before, they just need to get a strong traditionalist Pope who will bring back the Latin mass and fix the overly anthropologically centred theology of the last few decades.
拙者は日本でござる
>>135143409
>wham bam thank you mam
>hit it and quit it
>fuck and chuck
I LOVE RIKAISAMA
>>135143714
>Jews
>anthropologically centred theology
>>135143804
The Holy Church has turned itself into a house of cuckery where the once-proud Vicar of Christ is only too happy to kiss the feet of Muslim thugs and other scum.
>>135141548
>no hat
Whoops, fixed.
It's Christmas Eve!
All I want for Christmas is to become a cute little girl and get taken in by an older woman who takes care of me in return for sexual favours.
>>135142490
Did you get edit access to the main site yet? I asked him to give it to you too when he gave it to me. You could add a link to the WIP guide there if you want.
>>135144154
What's the nukige here?
>>135144247
https://vndb.org/v10357
what's the cutest non-sexual vn out there?
>>135144276
>kimomen
Oh no
>>135144314
Time passes.
why are the kanji readings in katakana everywhere? i thought that katakana was just used for foreigner words and shit. I'm using kanji recognizer for android.
>>135144536
Some places puts the on-yomi in katakana because they're based on Chinese readings.
God I fucking hate visual novels. Only the biggest weebs could love this trash. Manga > Anime > The pleasure of being cummed inside > WaniKani > VNs
>>135144749
>WaniKani
Too far.
>>135144698
Makes sense. Thanks.
>>135144784
Well you can get a lifetime sub for 33% off this holiday if you want to check it out.
>>135144842
Stop, someone will actually buy it
>>135144749
>Hating an entire medium
Nice autism
Why do I sometimes see ワタシ and some other words written in katakana? What exactly is being implied?
>>135144904
Japanese hipsters
>>135144875
LIFETIME. You're whole fucking LIFE. Is good deal.
>tfw spent two years learning japanese to read chuunige
>tfw they just write in English anyway
>>135144842
>$199.00
>>135144931
That looks like shit. Can you not turn off the translation?
>There are people who would pay two hundred dollars for a locked proprietary service that teaches you wrong information
>>135145012
WaniKani is what some people need. Gamification and the slow pace go a long way. Not everyone can keep up with 20 words a day (that have absolutely no context, by the way) in Anki and learn anything from it.
>>135144154
The plotge says
"the start of the attack is anticipated within the next thirty minutes, because of the developing situation with enemy's support units, you are allowed to use up to 100 kilotons of nuclear weaponry. The need for emergency interceptions are recognized"
Or am I off the mark?
>>135144134
Just post your login details here and I'll sort it all out.
Is there a good dark fantasy VN like Berserk? Preferably without any maritime adventures.
>>135145122
Aiyoku no Eustia is the best dark fantasy I know of that isn't a nukige.
年末の仕事って、忙しくて、忙しくて、忙しくって
じつにたのしいとおもうよ。おにいちゃん
>>135145079
Nukige says "Nya, A god's dick... Goddick".
>>135145051
>Not everyone can keep up with 20 words a day
>that have absolutely no context, by the way
>play VN
>get as much words as you can handle
>do Anki
>replay the same section again
>pay nothing
>>135144931
What's that ugly cuck plane supposed to be?
>>135145051
Well memed
That's a pretty good deal on WaniKani though.
>>135145191
Not him, but what is the difficulty level if I don't really want to miss something plot-wise due to misinterpreting something / not understanding something? Can I jump straight into it after Flyable Heart or should I read a couple more moege/charage first?
>>135144134
>Did you get edit access to the main site yet?
Do you mean the bunch of google docs? I've got access to those if that's what you're talking about.
Ive been here for two years and I have no clue what wanikani is.
>>135145286
If it takes you so long to do WK that you would pay 200 dollars on it, that's a problem with either you or wanikani.
>>135145312
Yeah, that's what I meant.
>>135145328
It's a paid flashcards service that only gives you access to flashcards that you know the component information of. Its SRS system is really bad, it's a closed proprietary system, you can't export your progress (scheduling info), it teaches bullshit info (especially on radicals), etc.
is there any offline dictionary apps that have example sentences? Ive tried tagaini jisho and jwpce. basically i'm looking for the app imiwa or midori for pc
>>135145292
Aiyoku no Eustia is well know for it's simple grammar, however it has a fairly high vocabulary level and has 2,454 kanji, it's not something you should fear and put off forever like Muramasa but you'll probably have a hard time if it's just your second VN. Well, you'll have a hard time with anything as your second VN I think.
>>135144990
Nope. They only speak English on the radio though so it's not a big deal. It's funny because it's obvious the seiyuu are struggling to read from their script, so to a full blooded English native such as myself the intended effect of it is ruined.
>突然 すいません 幻影天龍のマスターＲｉｓａです。 チームに入って まったり 楽しく遊びませんか？
How do I tell this guy thank you for the offer? I already told him I'm shit at Japanese.
>>135145709
"はい、セックスしましょう"
>>135145709
ありがとう、けど居身じゃない
>>135145709
The heck is this about
>>135145801
Thanks, I think he got it. He took off his clothes and is following me around for some reason now though.
>>135145803
What the hell is 居身?
>>135145886
A guy that's role playing asking me to join his team in a game.
>>135144154
This was better.
>>135146038
>That plotge
Might as well learn chinese
I have a fairly large Japanese vocabulary, and seem to pick up basic grammar and the rules of Japanese sentence structure relatively easily. But I need to learn a shit ton of kanji, (of which I know only a handful.)
Anki has been super cool. But my question:
I don't mind studying off VNs per se, but to be honest I'd rather study from manga or something else. Are there any obvious cons to this I'm missing?
I mean, I know I can'teasilycreate new cards for anki from manga.
>>135146038
Hopefully intermediate hell explained 3 will be better.
>>135146026
>What the hell is 居身?
It was supposed to be 興味.
If you don't own a firearm you deserve whatever happens to you.
>>135143801
BASED
>>135145354
Cheers. I'll take a look at it now that I have the time.
>>135146079
VNs have voice acting. That's about it IMO.
>>135146079
Just be yourself. Did you read that Yotsuba beginner pack?
>>135146151
go fuck yourself you american dog, are you that lacking in self esteem that you need a gun to make you feel like a big man
>>135146256
>Muslim mad he can't rob me and rape my family.
Love those tears.
>>135146079
I've grown to dislike manga because it's 100% dialogue so you get a lot of shitty colloquialisms and slang, which is all pretty much just hyper slurred and shortened versions of actual Japanese, and to me it doesn't make any sense to focus on the slurred shit before you master the proper shit
>>135146079
>fairly large Japanese vocabulary
>only a handful of kanji
????????
>>135145257
It's not a meme. There's definitely a segment of learners that need stuff like Wanikani to succeed. I guess it's debatable whether using Wanikani isn't failure in itself, but that's another question.
>>135146256
Fuck off, shitter. You'd be speaking German right now if America hadn't saved your feeble fucking ass.
>>135146291
Basically if you pay for wanikani you've already given up. As long as you don't pay for wanikani or other fishoil you have hope.
>>135146281
Yeah man be a hero and protect your family you pathetic excuse of a human
>>135146300
>>135146281
Blatant samefags, can't wait till you get shot by someone. Preach about gun laws after that yeah
J A P A N E S E
>>135146371
>Blatant samefags
Hah, you think you know it all, don't you? You little bitch. I'll show you how the world works.
>>135146393
Sucks weeny.
Fuck off you off topic shiters.
>>135146220
For listening comprehension. Makes sense.
>>135146227
I've read through the whole guide but to be honest I haven't yet checked out everything on it.
>>135146285
That makes a LOT of sense. I didn't even think about that. I'm still gonna try and read some manga but maybe actual books will do me some better.
>>135146289
It's a little strange I know, I took Japanese for two years in high school and they mostly used romaji and eventually moved onto to kana. From there I kinda stopped studing for a few years but remember all kinds of words and picked up even more from watch anime. But ask me to write them or read them and I fucked.
As such I've had very basic conversations with Japanese people shopping at where I work. But I'm definitely far from fluency and I can only make the simplest of sentences. Like I said though, the grammar isn't proving to be too difficult. But I need to learn kanji!
>>135146472
> I'll show you how the world works.
I fucking cringed
>>135146545
世界のやり方貴方の幼稚な自分を見せるよ
>>135146612
>世界のやり方
Just stop man, it's just embarrassing
>>135146543
Should probably just start with yotsuba, she only speaks in kana and all the other characters speak in pretty simple terms so it'll probably be a good initial test of your abilities
>>135146851
Thanks man! Will do!
God damn I keep getting 持つ and 待つ mixed up
>>135146961
>持つ
Hand radical on the left
You hold shit with your hand
>>135146961
Look at the left hand radicals, 持つ has the "hand" radical, so "hold" and 待つ has the "people" radical, so "wait (for someone).
>>135146993
>>135147008
Turns out RTK does help after all.
>>135146993
>>135147008
Great thanks guys
>>135146961
>波 坂 皮 板 版
>fuck this
>>135147102
Nope I used kanjidamage
>>135147008
Isn't the radical on 待 the left go radical? 侍 has the left people radical
>>135147130
I didn't even do RTK and I can distinguish all of those. Feels good.
>>135147102
Urm no, I just read a short guide somewhere. I'm a firm believer of doing 20 kanji a day, on paper with くん・おん and the general meaning(s). (Look at the words it's used in and what the dictionary says).
>>135147158
Eh, kanjidamage is just a worse RTK.
>>135147130
波
water radical = pond
坂
earth radical = hill
板
tree radical = plank
Rakuten's the best source for ripping LNs, right? EBJ doesn't have a desktop de-DRM yet, I think.
What's the difference between 丘 and 坂?
>>135147158
I'm fucking retarded, shows how much I know. Yeah you're right.
>>135147202
Gets the job done, the quality of resources really mostly depends on the person using them
>>135147241
>the quality of resources really mostly depends on the person using them
That is not true at all, the effectiveness perhaps but not the quality
妹の味
>>135147205
>波
>water radical = pond
Don't you mean 池 m8? Pretty sure that 波 is wave
>>135147641
O yeah shit
I guess I can't learn Japanese after all
Still watery though
Is there any difference between using かろう or だろう at the end of sentences?
Seems like just preference so far
>>135147783
Read up on it m8.
>>135147783
>かろう
This is a thing?
>>135147826
Look up
蝦夷
rare kanji for you rare kanji dietitians
>>135147820
>not a single example of かろう being used
>>135148088
Sorry, I like my rare kanji to be useful in some way.
I bet even a jap would recoil at the sight of this.
Normal Japanese: 分かる
Chuuni Japanese: 判る
It's like fucking clockwork
Hi friends. I've been learning mostly through Anki and through reading. I can understand things pretty well, but when it comes to production I can't think of the simplest things in regards to grammar. For example, I can't think of how to ask "which of the following do you like more?" If I continue going through sources like the DoJG, will things like that be mentioned, or is there something else that will be more useful afterward for actual production in conversations?
>>135148188
Watch a lot of anime/television, it becomes easier to think of what to say when you have real voices in your head. The answer to getting better is always exposing yourself to more Japanese.
>>135148155
>>135148170
I see the second one in pretty mainstream RPGs though.
Which of the grammar decks in the OP is the correct one?
I mean the one that was edited to actually make sense.
>>135148235
RPGs are chuuni by definition
>>135148141
新しかろう
That kind of thing.
>>135148276
What does chuuni mean to you? Because the RPG I'm thinking of takes place in modern Japan. And none of the main characters are nerds or anything like that.
>>135147102
Not the anons who replied but I had a similar mnemonic and I only use anki
>>135148339
Middle school
>>135148339
That certain euphoria the characters display.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
To my understanding, to speak Japanese naturally you must have it naturally bloom from your brain. If you have to pause and think a lot to construct sentences using DOJG as reference for example, it's likely you'll come out with something awkward, unnatural, or perhaps even wrong, for the most case. See: Lang-8 people spending a long time making journals that end up shitty. So, natural blooming, like how you speak your own language, not really constructing it but instead just naturally having it come out in a linear fashion. To acquire this blooming in Japanese, it's really best to just expose yourself to a lot of correct Japanese, and speak yourself to get used to the process. Corrections aren't even a big deal, necessarily - a corrected sentence is just a single correct sentence, while reading a book exposes you to tens of thousands of correct sentences. I don't think that reading grammar books in an attempt to get better at producing Japanese will really reap much benefit - am I wrong? Just listening and reading should be more than enough in the grammar department. It will take a lot of time to get fluency though, no matter what. If you find yourself struggling to say certain things, reading more is the best option. I just saw someone yesterday say "how would you say something has a low probability" and just now I said 可能性は低い. On a large scale, reading and listening should answer all such questions. Am I wrong?
>>135149079
you'll never be able to produce the sounds they do, so you'll sound bad no matter how correct your grammar is.
they cant L, R or V and we cant ryu, wo or probably a dozen others
>>135149079
All you need is anime and producing practice
>>135149222
>being an ameriburger or an EOP
Must suck having such a limited range of sounds
>>135149222
But thats not true at all
>>135149297
>Must suck having such a limited range of sounds
Japanese has the least sounds out of any major spoken language I believe so that insult doesn't really mean much
>>135149297
i never wanted to produce anyway, i dont particularly enjoy listening to their engrish so why would i subject them to my wapanese, too cruel
>>135149222
I remember someone posting a vocaroo here (not the saikou one) and they had a near perfect Japanese accent. You just gotta listen a lot and you should reach the same level.
Heck reading some dl site VNs, some VAs have awful accents, can't be worse than them
>>135149222
Spot the anglo.
>>135149222
https://youtu.be/ejRkuX1RGf4?t=14s
>inb4 ajatt
Regardless he's still good
>>135149324
While you are correct, that doesn't change the intended insult since it relates to english's own faults in producing sounds related to japanese rather than japanese producing sounds related to english.
>>135149543
I'm gonna choose not to watch this because knowing he's better than me will make me feel bad.
>>135149558
The insult was solely "must suck having a limited range of sound" which is not a really meaningful insult when we're all here learning a language with far fewer sounds. So, I doubt any EOP here is feeling insecure about how many sounds they can produce.
>>135149481
>>135149543
ill give allowances to people with good ears that could become decent singers, but anyone else not wanting to train in this fashion(or has smoked a lot) is gonna sound bad, just saiyan
>>135149505
>spot the non asian trying to learn an asian langauge
call the cops
>>135149688
>but anyone else not wanting to train in this fashion(or has smoked a lot) is gonna sound bad, just saiyan
>Being shit at something you dont practice
Wow what a surprise
>>135149749
Finnie watched a ton of anime and never practiced Japanese but still gained fluency
>>135149617
That would be true if the post before the insult didn't exist.
>you'll never be able to produce the sounds they do, so you'll sound bad no matter how correct your grammar is.
It clearly says that english speakers typically can't produce the sounds needed to speak japanese in the same manner as a native.
To anyone who speaks more than english this claim sounds ridiculous since most romance languages incorporate the same sounds as are found in japanese.
>>135149688
>or has smoked a lot
Sounds like you are making excuses for being bad
>>135149793
His insult should have been, "must suck having a range of sound outside of Japanese's", rather than "having a limited range", because the latter becomes hardly meaningful in the context of Japanese learning.
>>135149848
I thought the meaning was implicit given the context, but I'll take it into consideration for the next time.
>>135149773
?
So?
The original argument was >you will never be able to produce the sounds they do
which is bullshit and I gave a example. The fuck does finnie have to do with anything? We werent talking about fluency
>>135149894
You said
>Being shit at something you dont practice
>What a surprise
which is fallacious considering that plenty of people are good at things without having to practice.
>>135149773
Have you ever heard him speak?
>遠慮せず
>>135150075
Fuck off frogposter.
approved my first jap exam 5 hours ago
happy クリスマス, first time i have been here on DJT since i first started studying back in august
>>135150238
>first time i have been here on DJT since i first started studying back in august
You haven't learned anything.
>>135149925
If he's listening to anime while watching hes practicing idiot.
Where the fuck did the name finny come from?
>>135150352
He's finnish
>>135150283
Well, at least he hasn't been getting cucked by his waifu like some people.
can someone tell me why this sentence 祈り信じよされば救われん isn't negative?
unless the english translation is wrong.
>>135150403
Fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC_ndsrNF8o&feature=youtu.be&t=435
>tfw can't follow this at all
>目に見えて
>>135150453
む -> ん
It's archaic.
Wow, that took a long time to pull from my memory.
>>135150453
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1387838598
>>135148188
The only way to learn that type of stuff is to actually live in Japan and speak in Japanese 24/7. And I'm not your friend fuccboi
>>135151283
You do not have to live in Japan to learn Japanese, fuckboy
>>135151298
Talking about production pussyfart
>>135151437
Production is Japanese.
>>135150689
>>135150863
Thanks.
I'm going to assume this is another one of those things that never gets used in real life.
>>135151619
I originally saw it in a LOGH quote. So, it's not conversational Japanese but it is something that people use.
>>135145051
>that have absolutely no context, by the way
This meme needs to die.
Anki allows the user to create ANYTHING they want to study. If words don't have enough context to understand, it's the fault of the user.
You may as well say that example sentences and definitions in dictionaries have absolutely no context.
>>135145391
By app I am assuming you are referring to the Android operating system?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sk.baka.aedict&hl=en
You can load dictionaries with example sentences are the like in Aedict, everything is off line after the dictionary files are downloaded/installed.
There is also DroidWing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aokabi.android.droidwingfree
You can load epwing dictionary files and use dictionaries you want, along with the example sentences. Off line as well.
>read hard VNs to learn more obscure vocabulary and complex abstract grammar structures
>read easy VNs to reinforced what I already know and get closer to aural and speaking fluency
Choices, choices
>>135152303
Watch anime so your listening isn't dogshit
>>135151964
Anki means core
>>135150863
So used to reading similar ん shifts in manga which are negative that never in a million years would I have assumed this was 辞書形＋意向形. Damn.
>>135152373
Internet means Reddit.
>>135152443
>Internet means Reddit.
You're a cunt
>>135152303
>read VN
>speaking fluency
>reading history books in Japanese actually helped with understanding porn games
What a twist!
>>135152458
>Anki means core
>You're a cunt
I agree.
>>135152373
You can edit core cards too, you know.
>>135152373
I must have really fucked up then cause I thought I was using anki for the past 3 years but I never touched core.
>>135152600
This is true, I deleted all the newspaper words.
>>135152600
Anon is just a shitposter looking for attention.
>>135152493
>not reading all the protagonist's dialogue out loud
>>135152627
Which words are those?
How long does it take any of you to remember any kanji from Anki? It's hard for me to remember anything ;_;
>>135152688
What are you trying to remember about the kanji? What are your prompts?
>>135152688
Reading practice will help a lot
>>135152715
What you mean by prompts?
Whenever I have a card in anki I always right it down about twenty times, saying it each time. I still can't remember them well.
Am I just being very impatient?
南無阿弥陀仏
何かが生きるためには
何かが死ぬ必要がある
命の価値は、すべて等しい
ひとりが勝つためには
ひとり負ける必要がある
誰かを生かしたいなら
もうひとりは、
そう。わかりますね
殺せばいい。
簡単なことです
>>135152794
I added this word to my mining deck while reading Majikoi.
>>135152782
>What you mean by prompts?
What is on the front of your card.
It is very hard to give a personalised answer that is of any use to you if I/others aren't sure of exactly what you are doing with those cards. I'll explain by example what I mean.
Pic related is an Anki deck I use for kanji. The top red boxed off area, the front of the card, contains an English keyword with common On and Kun readings. The way in which I remember about the kanji in this deck is by using those front prompts to recall the correct kanji and write it out. The rear of the card has the kanji with stroke order to assess whether or not I remember about that kanji, along with additional bits of information in case I want to study that kanji in other ways. I only write the kanji down once for the card as it appears.
>Am I just being very impatient?
Maybe? Would you be able to explain how you are studying kanji which is causing you this sense of anxiety?
>>135153006
Might help if I post the image.
>>135153030
>all that completely useless information
>kanji on back, not front
RIP anon
>>135153048
It's a production deck.
>all that completely useless information
Such as?
>>135153030
Jesus christ
It reminds me of pic related
>>135153072
On reading, kun readings, stroke count (already on image), Heisig number, frequeny, kanken grade, english keyword (as opposed to Japanese).
>production deck
It would be better to have
あらわす
on the front then. As little English as possible is the best way to go
>>135152671
All the dumb ones that you never see.
冒険をしに日本にいく。
This is a simple sentence but I'm having trouble figuring out what "し" is doing here.
>>135153119
Yeah you're an idiot.
>>135153129
There are over 6,000 kanji in this deck. I'd like to see how you can possible balance that out using a single reading. It isn't a vocab deck.
It's great that you feel the need to comment but it's clear you have no idea what the purpose of the deck is.
>>135153186
There are no words in Core6k that are
>dumb ones that you never see
You're going to see every single one of those in lowest common denominator Japanese media.
>>135153222
Get a load of this retard lecturing me when he has to learn 現 kek
>>135153196
するの連用形。
>>135153196
I'm guessing it's some version of する
>>135153319
>>135153326
Thanks. Guys.
>>135153006
I'm just using the 2k core deck, and it's mostly the on/kun readings. I can't remember them. I don't know why it feels so hard.
I get anxiety from failing, and I guess I feel like not remembering ASAP is failing.
>>135153196
Pic related.
>>135153267
It's a PRODUCTION DECK you FUCKING IDIOT.
It has over 6,000 kanji in it, so yeah, 現 is going to be one of those. Where do you people come crawling out of?
>>135153398
Pic didn't upload for some reason. 4chanX encountered an error but still posted.
>>135153222
I don't think learning readings out of context is ever helpful for actually learning Japanese. Furthermore, you ignored the bulk of the useless information, which leads me to believe you have no defense of them. And finally, if you're actually attempting to learn kanji using not only English keywords, but also 6,000 of them, then it's really YOU who doesn't know what he's doing.
>>135152845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE
Never give up fellow makifag
>>135153398
How long have you been using it for?
>>135153446
>I don't think learning readings out of context is ever helpful for actually learning Japanese
The point of the deck is to learn how to WRITE THE KANJI. The readings, keywords, etc. are merely prompts.
> Furthermore, you ignored the bulk of the useless information
That information isn't useless.
>And finally, if you're actually attempting to learn kanji using not only English keywords, but also 6,000 of them, then it's really YOU who doesn't know what he's doing.
http://www.kanken.or.jp/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19zorQpMJi00-b6abuvE5uBAIsMMqWVrbeHD-bIrkggQ/edit?hl=en&pref=2&pli=1#gid=0
Please stop commenting on something you have no fucking clue about. Having more options doesn't mean you have to use everything. It's anki: you can remove what you want. The deck gives users many options so the user can choose what they want.
>>135153401
Says the guy who is trying to memorise how many strokes his kanji has
>>135153446
Nigger will you shut the fuck up?
It's plain as day that anon is using the deck to study kanji in a way you wouldn't. Fair enough; different people study in different ways. The most insufferable faggots on DJT are spergs like you who come bumbling in with a few months of learning and start telling other people they are doing it wrong because other people are studying different things.
It's as obnoxious as those guys who freak out when anons say they are learning to write or speak. Chill.
>>135153684
How's RTK treating you champ?
>>135153596
>That information isn't useless.
Tell me how sroke count (already on image), Heisig number, frequency, and kanken grade are useful information. You already are skimming over them and not memorizing them, so why even have them on the card? If you're going to be memorizing this many kanji, it would be best to do so using Japanese keywords, not English words - the former is actually helpful and relevant, the latter is just a crutch that hurts you. You've got the right idea having kun and on as prompts, at least, but leaving in the English keyword is probably resulting in you hardly paying attention to them, defeating the purpose. And finally - what exactly do you hope to prove by linking kanken? Kanken is useless shit natives can't even pass. If you want to waste your time learning it, go ahead, but don't imply the knowledge is useful.
>>135153643
>Says the guy who is trying to memorise how many strokes his kanji has
I'm not, at all.
They are there for reference.
>>135153596
Are you trying to learn how to write? If so, this is the wrong place to ask for advice.
>>135153684
It's undeniable his deck format is shit and filled with nonsense, whether you're learning production or not.
Not to mention he's learning Kanken, which is indefensibly retarded.
>今年の夏、七月から八月にかけて中国大陸を旅行した。
Since when is China a continent?
>>135153596
A few weeks, I know it's not long but I feel like I should at least have a few done well. I just think I'm being too impaitent. Thank you for helping me, anon. <3
http://rocketnews24.com/2015/12/18/680687/
ある意味シンプルな答えであったが、それを企業努力で実現し続けるブルボンはアッパレである。
"Although the explanations were simple and meaningful, the continued efforts by bourbon deserve applause"
y/n
>>135153684
Lmao his layout is objectively shit senpai
>>135153736
>Tell me how sroke count (already on image), Heisig number, frequency, and kanken grade are useful information.
If someone wants to organize their deck by any of these values, they can.
>You already are skimming over them and not memorizing them, so why even have them on the card?
Some people want that information.
>it would be best to do so using Japanese keywords, not English words - the former is actually helpful and relevant
This isn't a vocab deck. It is a kanji production deck. All I need to do it be able to be able to write kanji.
>Kanken is useless shit natives can't even pass
Learning Japanese is useless shit as well. Different people have different interests. Criticising something for studying something you don't like and telling them they are doing it wrong because they are studying something you don't like instead of something you do, is the epitome of sperging out.
>If you want to waste your time learning it, go ahead, but don't imply the knowledge is useful.
Being able to write is useful.
>>135153777
>Are you trying to learn how to write?
That's the whole point of the deck. It should be painfully obvious.
>If so, this is the wrong place to ask for advice.
1. fuck off, DJT is NOT your hugbox. 2. I'm not asking for advice. Follow the fucking conversation.
>>135153794
>It's undeniable his deck format is shit and filled with nonsense
You're wrong.
>Not to mention he's learning Kanken, which is indefensibly retarded.
You're wrong.
>>135153819
If in doubt, one thing you can fall back on is your retention rate of mature cards. If that is high, regardless of how you feel, you are probably on track a lot more than you think. It is really hard to gauge progress in the short term and you know what, it's one of those fucked up human aspects of belief that makes it hard to stop and get perspective.
If you can grin and bear it, give it another few weeks and look at your stats. Post them here if you are unsure how to interpret them.
>>135153978
You're wrong.
Wow, that was easy.Argumentative autist?
>>135153957
There is nothing wrong with it, it's a great deck for writing.
>All I need to do it be able to be able to write kanji.
Looks like we got an ESL here boys.
How should I go about escaping the intermediate hell? I'm almost at passing N2 level.
Or for a more specific question, what should I read?
>>135154009
Except >>135153736
And his pitiful response proves it.
>>135153997
Argumentative autist spotted.
>>135154042
>studying one thing means you can't study anything else
>>135154048
What are you reading at the moment? Wikipedia pages are good practice for parsing dry infodumps.
>>135154048
>How should I go about escaping the intermediate hell? I'm almost at passing N2 level.
>I'm almost at passing N2 level.
But you just reached it. Keep reading.
>>135154094
He was making fun of your English, dude.
>>135153838
ある意味 = in a certain sense
In a certain sense, it's a simple answer but the fact that Bourbon is able to to continue implementing that (bargains/cheap prices for tasty snacks) is praiseworthy.
y/n
>>135154048
Watch lots of anime
>>135154072
There is nothing objective about that post. It is all opinion projected as fact by a pitifully insecure guy who cannot grasp that people have different goals and want to learn different things.
Being unable to get that people do things different is the argumentative autist in a nutshell.
>>135154163
He was making a strawman, dude. There isn't anything wrong with the English, dude. Maybe English isn't your native language, dude. Dude.
>>135154233
Butthurt ESL spotted.
>>135154233
>There isn't anything wrong with the English
>All I need to do it be able to be able to write kanji.
It's been two years since I "started" learning Japanese and I still can't read a VN. Japanese is really impossible.
>>135154233
Holy shit, so salty. It's like a flashback to last night's Australia shitfest.
>He was making a strawman, dude.
Not at all, the sentence here
>All I need to do it be able to be able to write kanji.
is pretty bad English, grammatically speaking. You probably rewrote it after typing it and didn't re-read it.
>is all opinion projected as fact by a pitifully insecure guy who cannot grasp that people have different goals and want to learn different things.
Not at all, there were good points in the posts that >>135153978 just ignored and wriggled around without actually engaging with.
>>135154094
Nothing currently. I've gotten to this point thanks to learning it in class but I was told that since I've read F/SN in English I should try re-reading it Japanese. Is that a good idea?
>>135154147
I know /a/ tends to hate recommending stuff but you got any suggestions?
>>135146543
Manga is really easy compared to even LNs, let alone adult novels, and I remember I struggled an enormous amount even when I started reading manga. What I'm trying to say is I doubt you will be able to just jump into reading novels, even Steve isn't that hardcore.
>>135154313
Shouldve ganbattayed
>>135154313
Can you read JRPGs?
>>135154337
Recommendings fine here because our use is learning.
>>135154338
- Steve started with Newspapers in Japanese, and most certainly jumps into adult native material, like history books: https://youtu.be/G5IPArDxO40?t=259
- Manga is not necessarily easier than LNs or adult novels. The manga pages this guy >>135111451 keeps posting are in my opinion harder than the average LN line I read. More "emotional" Japanese is way harder than the narrative Japanese so prevalent in LNs, VNs, and adult novels.
>>135154313
It is, if you're a lazy fuck who doesn't actually bother to study.
Holy SHIT
Compelling content overload
>>135154395
>Can you read JRPGs?
The difference between JRPGs and VNs are pretty much negligible in terms of language difficult. They're both thick in text and narrative, or tend to be anyway, to the point where JRPG and VN actually overlap quite frequently and you get VNs that are JRPGs and vice versa.
>>135154395
No JRPGs either. Surprisingly I can read manga and Hmanga fine though
>>135154172
man missing a particle when reading really can make understanding difficult.
i missed the de in the portion of the sentence and this happens.
>>135154286
It just looks like he messed up when writing/editing the post, I'm pretty sure people don't write "to be able to be able" on purpose.
>>135154498
I've actually never played any VNs. I don't really have any issues with some basic JRPGs anymore. I can PLAY them at least fine even if I don't understand everything but they at least I am able to play it with some understanding.
>>135154554
H-mangas written really simply surprisingly. Or maybe unsurprisingly...I don't know.
Are the point of these threads for me to post stuff I'm having a hard time with and have everyone in class laugh at me?
>>135154498
>http://yupotan.sppd.ne.jp/game/so2/serif1.html
Read this and then try to tell me with a straight face this isn't easier than even moege.
I understand the difference in nuance between 聞く and 聴く, but what about 訊く? I'm reading a manga where the author uses 訊く all the time. Is there any specific nuance?
>>135153978
Take a vocab deck, put kana/definition on front and kanji/kanji compound/kanji+okurigana on back. Use RtK mnemonics to help with short term memory.
That'll actually teach you how to write. Going from 1 keyword -> 1 kanji is somewhat helpful but it won't teach you to write.
>>135154315
>Not at all, there were good points in the posts
No there weren't.
You're wrong, sperg.
Different people have different goals. Saying that those goals are "retarded" doesn't make you right, it makes you insufferable. You'd be 'salty' as well if a group of retards went out of their way to purposefully misrepresent what you were saying and completely derailing a conversation with another person who is trying to get useful feedback. Basically these small group of posters are the problem with these threads: obnoxious spergs who do nothing but look for things to take out of context and ridicule, generally treating /a/ like /b/. There is a reason why people don't post here, and it's because of people like you. I looked through the archives and that shitfest you are referring to was the exact same situation. That one or two anons bringing retards to task are what most people don't do despite wanting to because they know the people on the other end are nothing but meme posting shitposters.
>>135154337
>I was told that since I've read F/SN in English I should try re-reading it Japanese. Is that a good idea?
To go from N2 to N1 you're basically expected to be able to read quickly and from a wide range of material. I think the best thing you can do, if you're up to it, is taking a small collection of different writings: news articles, opinion pieces, short stories, essays, video game dialogue, manga, light novels, VNs, etc. and read them all to get an idea of what your areas of weakness are.
At around the N2 level you're going to be needing to target weakness in order to progress as at around that point most of the grammar and fundamentals of the language are already down pat for the most part. A bit like a sports player, what takes you to the next level isn't general overall improvements and playing games but finding exactly what you aren't good at and working on bringing that up to the same level as the rest of your game. Read wide, narrow in, repeat.
>>135154764
Are you an amphetaneet?
I like you man very intelligent.
>>135154754
>Going from 1 keyword -> 1 kanji is somewhat helpful but it won't teach you to write.
Personal experience contradicts this but you're welcome to believe whatever you want.
>>135154764
>completely avoiding all the points and just whining about the thread quality
>just saying "you're wrong" and hoping nobody notices you have no ground to stand on
Not doing yourself any favours my salty friend.
>>135154837
>completely avoiding all the points and just whining about the thread quality
>just saying "you're wrong" and hoping nobody notices you have no ground to stand on
Not doing yourself any favours my salty friend.
>>135154690
Weeeelll, that's really easy.
Uh... I don't have much experience with console JRPGs. I was thinking of PC games like, of course, Evenicle, Kamidori, Trails in the Sky and so on. It does seem like console JRPGs are easier than moege if that's the standard though.
私はバカ外人と申します。
どうぞよろしくお願いいたします。
>>135154862
I think DJT is a pretty good, high quality thread.
I made points and they were responded to with diversionary nonsense and plain "you're wrongs" with no arguments. I see no reason to restate points if you ignored them in the first place, I'll allow you to reply to my older posts and try again, though.
Therefore, unlike you, I'm not avoiding points, not whining about thread quality, and not simply stating "you're wrong". That won't change no matter how butthurt you get.
>>135154862
>completely avoiding all the points and just whining about the thread quality
>just saying "you're wrong" and hoping nobody notices you have no ground to stand on
Not doing yourself any favours my salty friend.
>>135152782
How far into the deck are you?
>>135154881
I've played trails in the sky and I found it easier than most VNs and LNs.
I'm sad and I can't learn Japanese. I can't read without a dictionary. How do people do it?
>>135155069
Having to use a dictionary means you're making progress.
>>135154881
FFV isn't really the standard but they really arent THAT much harder in general.
It is mostly vocab that is the hard part but even that gets much easier over time. For whatever reason FFV is written much easier htan the others.
>>135155069
NEVER GIVE UP
>>135154920
I think DJT is a pretty good, high quality thread.
I made points and they were responded to with diversionary nonsense and plain "you're wrongs" with no arguments. I see no reason to restate points if you ignored them in the first place, I'll allow you to reply to my older posts and try again, though.
Therefore, unlike you, I'm not avoiding points, not whining about thread quality, and not simply stating "you're wrong". That won't change no matter how butthurt you get.
Is "しか" the worst grammar point? I mean I have most of them down, but this one for some reason I can't warp it around my head quickly. I know what it means and how it's used, but I stumble when it comes up. Any tips to get it coded to my brain? ”しかない” is easy, but when its a long ass sentence then out of nowhere "しか -> neg Verb" I stumble, I know that anything after "しか" is negated right?
Tips? or should I just read more and practice with it individually until I get a better grasp?
>>135155118
Thank you Mr. Jew.
>>135154881
There are harder JRPGs, of course. SO2 is perhaps the easiest I've found. FF games are easy to read too. Weirdly enough, some of the toughest JRPGs I've played are Tales of games because they tend to use a lot of idioms in skits, and narration and myths are told in a ye olde manner.
>>135155118
Actually, not many people know this but the number for each FF is actually the intended audience age and not the number in the series.
>>135155144
Does this help at all?
>Tips? or should I just read more and practice with it individually until I get a better grasp?
Why not both?
>>135155303
Where's the first one from?
>>135155399
DoJG anki deck in the OP
>>135155399
Where is the image from? The DoJG deck.
>>135155399
I got it from the OP, please excuse the format it's pretty bad I know.
>>135155303
Do you custom make those?
>>135155441
The format is brilliant.
>>135155442
These are taken from the DoJG project CoR-Kun and another two anons put together.
>>135155181
>pirate tales of zetiria
>its in russian
I guess thats what I get
>>135155494
>The format is brilliant.
No need to lie just to be contrarian
>>135155494
Awesome
I have been gone for months so I haven't paid attention to the new stuff.
https://youtu.be/gz9Cfk2ALiw?t=431
>>135155144
X しか Verb～ない
しか is a particle that marks X as an exception to the negative verb. The grammar becomes harder to grasp when people translate it into "only" because they make the negative verb positive. Otherwise, there's almost a 1:1 relationship with English's "don't [verb] but/except for [X]"
戸田さんしかタバコを吸わない。
No one BUT Toda smokes.
vs Only Toda smokes.
私は日本語しか知らない
I don't know any languages OTHER THAN Japanese.
vs I only know Japanese.
>>135154764
Wow, I had no idea getting to N1 would be such a different path. Thanks for that!
>learning English
>>135155509
>No need to lie
I'm not. I think the format is brilliant.
>>135155553
Pic related is a version of a concept fully converted to a textual field entry. There are a couple of these entries uploaded as text files in the link where the DoJG deck is.
>>135155613
she's shit at both English and Japanese
>>135155613
What's wrong with her face?
>>135155661So are you
>>135155613
Read that as Kanjidamage at first and assumed it was an image from the Anki deck for the 憾 kanji.
>>135155682
FASD.
>>135155682
she has fetal alcohol syndrome
>>135155762
She's part of the Florida Association of Special Districts?
>>135155730
kek
http://www.kanjidamage.com/kanji/756-regrettable-%E6%86%BE
>>135155644
If possible, keep a version without the converted notes. The format of the images are much easier to read.
>>135155894
I'm not converting them.
>DOIJG
>C社が盲人用障害物感知器の試作品を発表した。この装置は目の不自由な人が皮膚への刺激を通して、前にある障害物などを感知出来るようにしたもの（である）。
>C社がM型ワープロの五パーセント値下げに踏み切った。これは、最近低下している同社のワープロシェアの巻き返しを狙ったもの（である）。
>大学入試制度調査会の第一回会合が昨日都内のホテルで行われた。この調査会は、最近しばしば批判の対象になっている、現行の大学入試制度の見直しのために発足したものである。
Well, this got tricky fast.
>>135156027
There is a spike in vocab from the Basic to Intermediate volume, that's for sure.
The fuck does this mean?
She'll banzai rush and stab me to death?
>>135156061
This is actually a spike within the DOIJG itself as ものである is used mostly in newspaper articles and the like.
>>135156111
ばんざい also means to raise your hands above your head
>>135156127
Ah I get it, makes sense now
>>135156111
>Then sit on the seat and banzaishinasai
>>135156115
Fair enough. Intermediate reading level is around that of newspapers and the like.
>>135156163
That's early advanced stuff though.
Nice
>>135156246
Newspaper articles, I mean.
![2015-06-15 18_23_01-ＡＩＲ[Standard Edition +Voice1.02] ７月１８日(火).png](https://i.imgur.com/iMijeWs.png "2015-06-15 18 23 01-ＡＩＲ[Standard Edition +Voice1.02] ７月１８日(火)")
>>135156260
This is making me want to play Air again.
I only stopped because I went on a trip and forgot I was playing it.
>>135156246
This goes against the
>everything in J-E grammar guides are basic Japanese despite what it states otherwise
meme
>tfw you will never be a transgirl
>>135156394
"basic" Japanese as in "normal Japanese grammar found pretty much anywhere". "advanced" Japanese as in classical Japanese and advanced syntax stuff you study in college language courses.
>>135156435
There are
>"advanced" Japanese as in classical Japanese and advanced syntax stuff you study in college language courses.
In the Intermediate and Advanced volumes of the DoJG series books.
>>135156418
Truly another reason to be alive has revealed itself.
>>135156494
DOJG is an outlier, really, and even then it doesn't cover much of the "advanced" meme-level stuff.
>tfw don't read anymore really but just listen now
>switch days between reading and listening
>feel like I am making progress but ocmpletely different mentality than studying for five hours a day
Wish I could be an amphetaneet again tbqh.
>>135156542
>and even then it doesn't cover much of the "advanced" meme-level stuff.
Such as?
>>135156435
You've got a really narrow idea of what advanced is. Do you also think that the only advanced English material is Shakespeare difficulty?
>>135156752
I'm just explaining the meme.
>>135156648
http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/51mokuteki.html
>>135156608
>Would give up reading abiltily for a good listening comprehension
>>135156793
ため(に)
のに
には
～よう(に)
「は」と「が」
These are all fully covered in the Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar. Do you have specific examples or did you post the wrong page?
>>135154664
Yes
>>135156418
hey i was on /neo r/ too
>>135156866
>did you post the wrong page?
I meant to post the main page, yeah.
>>135156933
Literally who?
>>135157000
The main page? You mean the list of everything?
Could you please post those meme advanced concepts specifically?
>>135157031
I think it's more effective if you read through some pages yourself, it should be evident what I'm referring to.
>>135156804
>thinking they are seperate and don't go hand in hand with each other
Honestly one of the dumbest mistakes beginners have is that they think they are completely three different skills that don't correlate with each other.
>>135157214
>I think it's more effective if you read through some pages yourself
I'm familiar with the site; it's at the top of my Japanese bookmarks folder. What I care about is what you think is advanced, since this is a claim you've brought up. My opinion doesn't really help clarify your position, if you know what I'm saying.
>>135157308
I don't have any opinions on what advanced is, because I don't find debating over definitions of words to be very productive; I am merely illuminating the meme with what should be a self-evident example.
>>135157450
>I don't have any opinions on what advanced is
>with what should be a self-evident example
Ergo you clearly do have an opinion on what constitutes advanced in this meme.
How hard is it for you to post it instead of pussyfooting behind insinuation and back-pedalling? Why bring it up in the first place if you don't have the intellectual honesty to clarify your statements?
Here you go: nothing on that site is advanced. Now you can disprove this statement by posting examples of what you think is advanced.
>>135157678
Have you even read the pages or did you just glance over the table of contents?
>>135157716
>Have you even read the pages
Yes, and none of it is any more advanced that what can be found in J-E Japanese grammar guides. Feel free to provide examples to counter this.
>>135157745
Alright, I'll admit, I read through the entire thing over the past 30 minutes - skimming, moreso, really - and realized that in my youth I over-estimated exactly how advanced it was. I'm not backpedalling, I'm admitting I was wrong. There are many pages such as http://www.geocities.jp/niwasaburoo/45hukubun.html that delve into sentence structure, but not advanced as per the meme about J-E. In fact, the J-E meme was mainly defeated by the Imabi "classical Japanese" page which is quite good.
Anyway, the people who say advanced Japanese grammar can't be found in J-E stuff are mainly those who think Advanced Japanese is stuff not even a Japanese native would know, and following that logic it's true that not many J->E guides explore stuff that native Japanese people wouldn't know. My mistaken understanding of the geocities website was that the latter sections delved into that. They still do, just not as "self-evidently" as I thought. So what exactly is Japanese stuff that not even a native would know? Well, I don't really know. But, it's not stuff you'll find in the DOJG.
>>135158327
That took some guts to post, respect. Most people would either start flinging shit or avoid the thread till it dies.
Translate these pronouns, weebs
俺
僕
私
儂
己
我
麿
小生
吾輩
戯奴
弊方
此方
拙者
身共
愚生
私自身
不肖私
Can anyone help explain what 「だったりして」means? I've looked up some japanese dictionaries but I'm still goddamn confused.
>>135158738
Never mind, found out by myself.
So I translating some H-manga and the only thing that is giving me real trouble is god damn sound effects. Is there any resources I should know?
I've had a look at thejadednetwork and muri.
Are there any porn-centric ones?
>>135158953
Just leave them be. Who gives a shit really?
>>135158953
http://thejadednetwork.com/
>>135158953
Oh fuck didn't mean to post that picture. I was going to ask if anyone come transcribe it. But I just ended up going with 'Those macarons are yummy' from context. Even though I still have no idea what 20% of those characters are in the second row are.
>>135158967
I suppose so. I assume most of them are 'thrusts'.
>>135159090
If you can't even read that you shouldn't even think about translating anything. It's モンブラン btw
>>135159090
It's モンブラン dude what the fuck
>>135159135
I can't read handwriting for shit okay.
I was just taking モ+Whatever to be a obscure way of spelling shit and macarons is the only Jap-loved sweets I know of. Oh well.
What the fuck is Montblanc?
>>135141792
with us passport you can go teaching english
>>135159295
Not only are you translating when you're a beginner you don't even know how to search things on the internet. Are you pulling my dick?
>>135159339
If I am, how does that make you feel?
>>135159295
>What the fuck is Montblanc?
lol
>>135159328
this is why japs are so bad at english
because they'll hire any retard who's a native english speaker to teach english
>>135159465
It makes me feel fantastic because I don't have to rely on shitty translations from shitters like you.
also
>implying you're the same poster
>finally caught up with yesterday's reps
Wew.
*What's up G?"「調子どうでぇ？」
"G"(gangsta)の省略形。"b"もチェック。黒人同士の呼びかけに使われる表現。
I hear this a lot now. When friends talk to each other and greet they usually say "Wassup, G?" It is the equivalent to "Genki kai?"
Gの意味は ＊A person; often used to replace someone's nameです。名前を使わずに"G"で置き換えてしまうというわけです！もっとも、もともとは、"gangster"の頭文字Gに由来するので、あくまでも知っておいたほうが得する表現ということにとどめておきましょう！ 似た表現に"B", "dun", "bro", "kid", "partna", "hommie"が あるので、全部覚えてしまおう！
>>135159512
They don't hire natives to teach, they hire them to babysit and give the impression to parents that the school has a native teaching there.
>-35C outside
>+14C in Tokyo
I feel more and more motivated.
天の川
i just love how this word looks
生理
>>135155303
>nothing by X makes the expressed proposition true
This is a confusing typo, it should be "but".
>>135147210
bookwalker also works
Here's a word you're gonna hear a lot in Japan: 攘夷
>>135153030
いちばんだいじな、よみが、ぬけているとおもうよ。おにいちゃん
>うつつ
>現
Hey 白BUた, 池沼YA郎 おMAEの母CHANお菓子て野郎か？w いしゅらむ国にさっさと9ワン1みたいなことされて 泣きながらたくさん4ねばいいの2なww ないん1ワンの時は死ぬほど楽しかったYO 黄身たちが椅子ラムに負けた瞬間だったからな ぶSyu何もできなかったな お馬間は何してるっけ？お前らのPuレジデントのことだよ、あの土人w 無NOのクロンボ 何もできない腰抜け2がーだよyouノー？ これ読めないだろう 読めないから何言ってもいいのかなって思ってるよ 母犯野郎 あそこしゃBUってよ ぐーぐる翻訳すり抜けるよー お前の尻ANA2ぶちこんでやってもいいZE ！どうせHOもだろ？ 栗とリスだしO前らの大好きなキリしゅトもついでに犯してやるよ！ 霧首都のあなるぎもちいいいいいいいいいいいいいい ハッピー感謝祭！娘がいたら万こ舐めさせて！マザフぁッカ！
>stare at sentence
>shits incomprehensible
>read it in jap
>understood perfectly
happening
>>135161895
このサイト未成年はダメやぞー
アノンくんおちんちん見せて
>>135162156
just getting harder to read thinking in english, tae kim supposed as much but didnt think it was true
how much of core 2k should I know before I can read
>>135162289
If you start reading you will start adding all the words that are in core 2k anyway. You can decide on your own how you want to use your time. Doing core is more efficient though.
>>135162289
Start at 1k with the Yotsuba Reading Pack.
朝ご飯
this is how they say breakfast, yes? Any other terms?
>>135162387
朝食
It's pretty formal though.
>>135162387
あなたがおとななら、ちょうしょく
あなたがおんななら、あさごはん
あなたがおとこなら、あさめし
あなたがこどもなら、あさごはん
ここって日本人スレッド？
Is here Japanese thread?
is the top part of 衷 written with 5 or 6 strokes?
>>135162619
日本語スレッドです。
>>135162619
いいえ、韓国人スレ
日本人立ち入り禁止ニダ
32ページを開いてください。
Why are there so many adverbs that mean the same thing in Japanese?
The worst one I think I've seen is "sudden" or "abrupt", probably have 10 if not more adverbs meaning that in my anki circulation at the moment
Also seen a lot of "carelessly/ thoughtlessly"
shit thread
>>135163298
Thanks
>>135161454
Seems like they're going to get culturally enriched in the next 5-10 years.
>>135163282
probably restricted in some way or carrying different connotations.
Reading the DOJG makes my head hurt because of how many words are like other words except they carry some tiny volitional change or can't be applied in one or two specific situations.
>Didn't understand Genki
>Quit
>Didn't understand Tae Kim
>Quit
>Didn't understand Japanese the Manga Way
>Quit
How did you learn grammar?
>>135163528
>>Didn't understand Japanese the Manga Way
Give up.
>>135163528
>Understand Tae Kim
Read
>Understand DoBG
Read
>Understand native explanations
Read
>Understand Kanzen Master N1 and N2 Grammar
Read
>>135163528
I used Genki.
>>135163528
Might want to get your brain checked out
>>135163528
It's supposed to feel like you're doing it wrong the entire time, you just keep going anyway and eventually it all comes naturally
>>135164195
>At least I'll try not to get involved with this guy
right?
>>135164313
You can't learn Japanese.
>>135164356
then what does it say?
こいつと： With this guy
だけは： At least
関わる： Relation with, concern, influenced by
まい： Must not/probably not/don't intend to
I really don't know if I'm missing something here.
What do these numbers mean in Anki?
gambaru yo nay oneesan!
>>135164515
When that word will reappear.
>>135164515
m stands for memory
d for determination
>>135164515
The time before you'll next see the word
>>135164522
omyeh meetyenah coozoo wah kahngaysheenye zoh
>>135164470
This is you right now.
>>135164736
Not even that guy, but at least be constructive when you're being a shithead to him.
Would you consider Japanese televisionbesides animehorrible
>>135163528
I didn't quit.
>>135164736
Isn't he right, though? Disregarding the awkward translation. Or what do you think it means?
>>135164887
Gaki no tsukai is probably the funniest shit I've ever seen, but I haven't seen much else besides that, and I only watch the good episodes so my opinion of it might be skewed
>>135164887
Yes, but not particularly worse than television in general. As far as stupid variety shows go, I actually think the Japanese are above the average.
>>135164887
Most people here are retards who have convinced themselves that they should just study the written language forever, so they don't watch TV.
岐阜で失踪した１３歳女子が
高知で保護されたそうです
いったいなにがおこったのでしょう
why not make one card for 近い instead of having two different ones
How can you express hope that something did/didn't occur (but where you don't know what actually did occur).
For example: I hope it didn't rain on your way here. I'd just guess 雨が振らなかったらいいです, but that's for present/future isn't it, (I hope it doesn't rain/etc). How can I do past tense conditionals then?
>米穀
>>135165131
I'm learning the language to read it, so of course I'm mostly going to read. It's pretty common sense anon. The retard here is you if anyone.
>>135165199
米
米穀
whats the difference
>>135165224
One is riceyer than the other
is there a japanese 4chan with daily english threads
蜻蛉を切る
>>135165224
LITERALLY INDISTINGUISHABLE
>>135165283
Yes, actually. 2ch has an English board. It's one of the few boards that foreigners can post on without a proxy.
>>135165190
anyone? I'm trying to write a letter but can't figure this part out. ;_;
>>135165405
link?
>>135165423
Use your head.
どうしてゆめをみるの
なにをおもいだそうとしているの
ふかいやみのなか
そっとみみうちされているの
>>135165432
中二乙
>>135164551
Knowing that anon will someday give up studying Japanese.
It fills you with determination.
Approximately what can one do after completing core 2k and reading genki I?
>>135165800
move to Japan
>>135165800
Congratulations you have now gained level 2 /djt/ shitposting abilities
>>135165190
>>135165416
Okay I'll just send it and hope they don't laugh at my poor grammar, fuck...
>>135165800
make fun of people who haven't done that yet
>>135165922
I would have thought that would be okay because it's なかった but I'm not sure, maybe just look up past tense conditional use on google
>>135165800
Pass JLPT N4
Are there really people who can't pass N2 after 10 years?
>>135166040
-たら doesn't convey tense as a conditional despite being based on the past tense form though, that's the problem. There literally doesn't seem to be a past-tense conditional as such, it's expressed via the following verb. But 雨が降らなかったらよかった I believe means it would've been good if it didn't rain (i.e. regret). Still no clue how to express it when you don't know what happened in a past event. Guessing it would be 雨が降らなかったらいい but can't find any confirmation.
>finally found some native speakers to practice my very beginner Japanese
>they ask me what movies and tv I like
>tell them I watch anime
>"Oh anime? I haven't watched anime since I was a child"
I fucked up.
>>135166115
Do I need to pass N2 to read VNs because that's all I'm trying to do.
>>135166135
>liking TV shows and Movies
ditch them, they literally have shit taste
>>135166135
Anime doesn't have childish connotations associated with it in Japan, it's just an entertainment medium, if anything they're weird for not having watched a single anime series since they were kids
>>135166135
they sound like fedora tipping faggots, ditch them for somebody with a love live avatar
>>135166152
Nah, you can do what you like.
>>135166245
They told me they like Doctor Who and Sherlock. I'm not familiar with those shows but I know it's not anime.
We haven't talked again since, but it made me wonder if in the future I should just say I don't really watch tv, which is slightly true
>>135166263
Isn't that just manga though? Where anime is more on the level of video games.
>>135166424
>They told me they like Doctor Who and Sherlock.
DUMP THEIR FUJOSHI ASSES LIKE A SEWAGE PLANT
>>135166439
Doctor who and sherlock are easily more autistic than the majority of anime, 逃げろ
>>135166439
Manchildren trying to make it a legitimate sport?
>>135166424
Man those shows are literally tumblr tier, how did you even meet them
>>135166471
Oops wrong quote
>>135166424
Those two shows are basically just massive warning signs to get the fuck away.
>>135166122
I'm also unsure. Fucking conditionals.
>>135166424
You could just say you watch anime in order to improve your Japanese
50 revisions and 5 new cards a day for now
>>135166605
That would be like watching spongebob to improve your english.
>>135166629
I hope you like being done somewhere around 2050.
>>135166646
An entertaining and effective method to build listening comprehension, vocabulary, and cultural knowledge? Glad we're agreed.
>>135166676
I have no issue with this, I'm loving every step of the way
>>135166646
No it would be like watching animated television shows created in America to improve your english
>>135166700
No it would be like watching animated television shows created in America to improve your American.
がんばって。おにいちゃん
おうえん してるよ
>>135166646
You realise there are now several generations which grew up on western cartoons picking up on English through them, yes?
This must be bait
>>135166460
>>135166471
>>135166484
>>135166554
>not liking doctor who
You're scum and you should die.
>>135166759
Either you're British and need to fuck off back to Mecca or you're from Tumblr and need to fuck off into a noose.
>>135166759
It's okay, it just has a really autistic fanbase on the internet, and as we all know, the fanbase that something has determines its worth
>>135166748
What's with the sad fucking face? I'm going to snatch your Christmas presents if you keep acting like a weak bitch.
>>135166122
Well guess I'll try asking next thread since I'm just curious at this point, maybe some N1 fag will know.
>spending Christmas on /djt/
>>135166697
If you actually loved it, you would want to do more of it. You're just doing the minimum that allows you to say you're "learning japanese" without really putting in any effort.
>>135166926
It can't be helped, you cunts are the best friends I have.
Do you ACTUALLY believe your Japanese is good?
Time to get slapped in the face, bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vbsI9xFuo8
Try to understand what is being said. GL HF at the 3 minute mark
>>135167058
Nigger music doesn't count, I can't even understand the lyrics of shitty English music 50% of the time despite being native.
>>135166926
It's christmas eve you filthy foreignernot that I'll be doing anything tomorrow either
>>135167058
This is easy, though.
>>135166895
祝われる日ではないんだよ
１２月２３日は陛下の誕生日だからね
むしろ、祝う日だよ
２５日は終い天神だね
Show me your best handwritten example of the word 痙攣.
>>135167611
How am I supposed to take a screenshot of paper, you tard?
>>135167590
Nigga I never know what you're typing.
>>135167590
He's going to camp outside your house and wait for Christmas day and then steal all of your presents before you wake up.
>>135167804
It's already Christmas in Japan.
>>135167590
天皇陛下ちゃんを見に行ったことがある？
可愛いじゃん〜
もう一度会いたくて、抱いたい〜
>>135167590
I'll snatch your imperial princess then. They'll banish you from Japan once they realise it's your fault.
I'm ganbarimasing as hard as I an but it's not working.
>>135168122
Failure is not acceptable.
>>135168316
Thank you.
>>135168122
You lack patience.
>>135168316
what a disaster
>>135168518
What's the point of asking that question apart from curiosity?
>>135168518
It makes certain things easier.
>>135168518
They embody the Yamato-damashii.
>>135166759
If you ACTUALLY, UNIRONICALLY, like Big Black Cock broadcasting's Doctor Who reboot, you should kill yourself.
>>135168516
Don't see you trying captain judgemental
>>135168677
Back to /pol/ with you, boy.
>>135166759
It's hilarious that Doctor Who even has a big internet following.
It's just cheesy British tea-time entertainment to watch with your family.
>>135168747
>>>/tumblr/
>>135168787
But le TIMEY WIMEY xDDDD
>>135164883
If you posted something like that in the thread the other day anons would have come out of the woodwork telling you to stop being uptight and autistic expecting constructive criticism instead of kneejerk reactions.
>>135168787
It's one of those show's that's decent that has its moments, but everyone here hates because it's more popular and successful than it deserves to be and the fanbase is fucking cancer. Same shit happens to a lot of anime here too.
>>135169096
People who judge a show because of the fanbase are fucking retarded. It has literally no impact on how you enjoy the show. That attitude is so incredibly immature.
>>135169162
People that argue about the quality of entertainment in general are retarded
>Make mom give me my present on Christmas Eve
>New laptop for Christmas
>Isn't the one I wanted
>Has fucking Windows 10 on it
>Freak the fuck out and throw it
>Mom sends me to my room in front of everybody
Fuck this. I gave you the fucking link for the one I wanted.
>>135169387
Sometimes I can't tell if posts like this are ironic or not. /djt/ has enough posters autistic enough for something like this to be unironic.
>>135169387
Windows 10 works great with RTK, though.
>>135169387
Hang yourself in your room to really send a message.
>>135169423
It's obviously just some troll, you lose by replying to it, good job
>>135169387
Wow, I know that feel, man
>>135169162
>>135169204
Newsflash, /a/ is retarded.
Windows 10 is pretty shit but you should do a fresh install on laptops anyway. There's always some faggot bloatware by whoever it's from.
>>135169387
Your post is really on topic and it's really not something you should post in your own blog. Please don't fuck off to reddit or whatever shithole you feel more at home at.
I think I just found something missing from the DOJG and that's quite essential because it's used a lot.
～たて
http://www.e-japanese.jp/?p=728
>>135169540
I'm going to go visit Reddit right now just to upset you.
