Hey /x/, this isn't particularly scary, but thought you guys would be interested. My uncle recently passed away from a heart problem, and I just got back from cleaning out his apartment. Among his thing I found a small box with some stuff I have a hard time explaining, including a couple papers that are definitely not his handwriting, some strange liquid, and what looks to be an embryo.
..an embryo
Included was this bottle of weird yellow crap
This yellow block of plasticy stuff, smooth on three sides and rough on three.
>>17872631
forgot pic
>>17872626
Pic
>>17872638
>>17872638
yucky. throw it out
and some papers which were clearly not in his handwriting. They look like a little kids. So any thoughts?
>>17872651
>>17872644
Try and google dunes lab
>>17872638
WHADDA FUCK?
Take it out of the liquid so you can get an up close shot.
>>17872696
it seem a little to big to even get out the top. Im not sure how it got in. I'll try to get some better angles though. I might be a minute.
>>17872638
cool
get some better pics so we can identify it
nice bait
>>17872704
Here's what I could get.
>>17872714
Looks like a lizard embryo
there were a few other papers. taking pics now.
>>17872718
yeah it does
How would you even get a lizard embryo?
Papers inc. there were about 5 total. This one just has some sort of weird logo
>>17872725
I don't know how he would have come across it. He was a computer programmer for the VA.
>>17872717
FYI the bottle is about 2 inches tall
>>17872777
Are there any more pages?
>>17872823
That was it, but now that I think about it the box was open when I found it.
>>17872892
Cool, except we are in Arizona. To my knowledge he never went to the Dakotas in his life. Also, if it's something like a place, I'm sure the numbers mean something. IDK
>>17872764
Welp. I have a feeling maybe your Uncle might have been more than just a computer programmer, OP.
Don't crack open the seal on that embryo unless it's in a lab, or it will be impossible to study it. Here's what you need to do, if you want to pursue this, and it's going to suck because it takes time, money and social skills. You need to find yourself a chemist. Maybe a student, maybe teaching at a college. You're going to need to extract the DNA of the embryo. Remember, that's a lizard embryo, that your uncle gave you because he works at Sedona's Rainbow Trout Farm. He told you to get the DNA sampled. (I know you don't know what that means, or why he wanted it, but this is a normal, regular thing for people who work at fish farms to do.)
With the DNA extracted, now you have a trickier job to do. You need to get the DNA sequenced, which requires a little more complicated machinery. Any ol' biology major learns how to extract DNA in their freshman year. Actually sequencing it to get the genetic codes is professional work.
If it's a new species, as the notes would seem to indicate, then you'll either be famous, or assassinated depending on whose DNA that comes from. That's why I recommend getting the DNA extracted separately, and only ever letting some rando college kid who thinks it's a frog know you have the original organism. If it's not a new species, then your uncle was catching frogs in jars, and put them in that box for no reason.
The yellow fluid is most likely amniotic fluid. You could get a DNA sample from there, if I'm correct. (Centrifuging it will get you the proteins and DNA stuff at the bottom.) I can only guess what the plastic-y material is.
Next time you start a RP thread, don't make it so painfully obvious.
>My uncle grew ayyliens
>>17872892
You're doing it wrong, bro. Use this one.
http://itouchmap.com/latlong.html
>>17872925
Yeah... That's great and all. I actually know some guys who work at 23andme, which is a sort of genealogy dna company, so I could potentally do some stuff with that. But i'm not exactly sure where that would get me.
>>17872925
This
>keeps his notes on brand new pieces of printer paper
>his notes are vague and appear to be drawn by a fifteen year old
Ohhhh, OP.
>>17872656
Okay so that is definitely a genome aka a set of genes for an animal, and mix it with that embryo and i'm p. sure your gramps was trying to make a homonculus. Also looked it up and Threose is something to do with the structure of an organic life. Also, the numbers in >>17872651
are coordinates that lead to some dunes off of the road in Utah on the border of Arizona. maybe he saw aliens or a UFO??
Maybe he found the lizard embryo at the dunes in the coords.
>>17872624
Ayy lmao
>>17872949
Like I said, no idea where they came from and they don't look like his. I'll look for some actual samples of his writing. I took back some other stuff besides the box.
>>17872910
>>17872952
Oh shit just scrolled down
>We live in Arizona
The Dunes thing is right on the border of Arizona
OP It's nighttime go get some aliens
>>17872635
>>17872746
That crystal is this crystal?
>>17872944
Ideally, it would get you a series of genetic codes, in AGCT format. At some point between now and eventually in the future, geneticists are going to start researching the genetic codes of life forms in order to produce materials:
- Pharmaceuticals
- Biofuel sources
- Structural materials
- Things that don't have labels yet
If that's a new species, there's a chance that within its DNA sequence is a strand for constructing a protein that does something new, and interesting. If it's an offworld species, then there is a 100% chance that it's going to contain a strand for constructing proteins that do god-knows-what. And once the DNA is sequenced, they'll know for suresies if it's a terrestrial species or not, because if it's not, then it's going to have a genetic code *completely* different from anything they've ever seen before. It might even have a different chemical structure, and not use DNA at all, which would be really obvious and incredibly useful.
If it's a new species, what they'll end up doing is injecting random DNA strands it into bacteriophages, that will replicates the strands, and then allow for further study. Whatever attributes that species has, can be harvested and utilized for terrestrial use. Was it from a psychic extraterrestrial of reptilian origin? Great. Now we are too. Or maybe not, maybe it's from a species that naturally lives for thousands of years. Great, so we just extract that, put 'em in bacteriophages, study the effects, and learn how to extend the human life span for centuries.
It sucks, because there's a chance that what you have is nothing. And there's a chance that what you have is something so powerful, it would end humanity as we know it. And there's a chance that what you have is so powerful, it would be the greatest advancement to science to date. And you don't know what that is, until you bring it to a geneticist and get the DNA sequenced.
Your uncle left you Pandora's box. It's your move, OP.
>>17872736
>>17872741
>>17872746
>>17872925
30 / 15 / 9 / 2
OBVIOUS ROLEPLAY
>>17873008
Here's an example of where humanity's at, in terms of bio engineering. If you get the DNA sequenced, and it's unusual, there are people out there who will make it into a battery or some shit just to see what it does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFW0TEFKCxk
>>17873012
Well. Evidently you don't need to pass any biology courses to be a paid schill. DESU, all this is very basic stuff that you ought to have learned in highschool, if you weren't busy getting high between classes.
>>17872949
here's his handwriting. Clearly not the same unless he was really rushed or nervous. Or maybe concussed or drunk I guess. Also it's not printer paper, its like pages torn from a sketchbook.
>>17873023
>biology courses
>>17872746
it is totally obvious what you are trying to do
also
46 / 17 / 12 / 1
SAD
A
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>>17872960
It's not really crystal. It's sort of more plastic like. Except it has a very rough and impure surface.
>>17873027
Nope. Look at the 4's. They're different. Not your uncle's writing.
Really, the original notes' handwriting look not dissimilar to mine, and I'm middle aged. Some people just have shit writing, especially when writing on tiny notepads in the middle of the Utah dunes, after having been put in a yellow crystalline chamber with a "Breathing Tube?" and then busting out, taking an embryo and chunk of the crystalline chamber while only in a "Conscious?" state.
Think about it, dude. It's obvious what that story tells. If you really have balls, you could go find the Dune Lab at those very precise coordinates that are provided.
>>17873046
He had been sick for some time before he died, and hadn't been out of town for almost a year. Pretty sure I would have known if he had just crawled out of the desert and died. He was not abducted or probed. I've been planning a trip up to Park City to visit some friends. Maybe I should stop by the dunes along the way.
>>17873038
Also, if it's not his writing. That raises even more questions.
I didn't know people in /x/ roleplay. Back to /pol/
It probably is just a lizard embryo. Although if you feel like you really want to make sure it is and you don't want to get the dna checked and shit it's pretty obvious what you should do.
You said the notes aren't in your uncle's handwriting so it HAS to be someone your uncle either was friends with or worked closely with him. The paper it's written on isn't old so it has to been given to him recentley. So like I said,just check in on some of your uncle's friends or some of the people he worked with closely.
>replying to yourself
>>17873062
>going alone
Always use the buddy system!
>>17873062
Okay. So we can confirm that your uncle:
- Didn't write those notes, or the number 4 that way.
- Didn't get put into a yellow crystalline chamber in the sky at those coordinates.
Do you think maybe someone else did, wrote those notes afterwards, took the evidence they had afterwards, and gave it to your uncle? If so, who? Who was the edgy wingnut your uncle used to hangout with, who always used to bring up crazy theories and use English in ways that made no sense to you, but stuck in your head for some reason because of how funny it sounded?
Stop the rp and tell us where the fuck you got a fucking embryo
>>17873077
Okay seriously. That last sentence REALLY makes it sound like you just watch too much tv/anime and just want something to happen like is does on tv.
Reality check man. Life doesn't work that way, the moon landing wasn't faked,and the Earth isn't flat. Now gtfo and go back to school bro.
>>17873077
Not really, we are having a funeral in a bit, so I can look around. I was friendly with him but didn't really know many of his friends.
>>17873079
Look. Dude time stamped it, and has pics and everything. That makes this the most legitimate thread on /x right. Also, his uncle died and he's still grieving. Kindly fuck off.
Or if you're schilling, go make OP an offer with your little infinite credit lines, you Federal scum.
>>17873089
i believe that "he" has an embryo, thats why im asking
>>17873085
> use English in ways that made no sense to you, but stuck in your head for some reason because of how funny it sounded?
>Life doesn't work that way
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble understanding your accent. Can you explain your insult with relying on heavy use of aphorisms and meaningless jibes?
That's a pretty good one though...
"Excuse me sir, according to my radar gun you were going 3 miles per hour over the speed limit."
"Well life just doesn't work that way."
"Hm, good point. Sorry for troubling you. Carry on."
"Hey, do you have your rent for this month?"
"Nope. Life just doesn't work that way."
"Well that sounds reasonable. See you next month!"
OP here, I gotta head out for Friday night things, but thanks for the tips. I'll come back if anything develops.
>>17873110
He found it in his late uncle's Pandora's box, with notes that point to a specific set of coordinates in the Utah dunes, describe a lab with a crystalline chamber where a humanoid was hooked up in a state of questionable consciousness with a breathing tube, made of the material that is also found in that box, along with some fluid that would most likely have also come from that crystalline chamber, as indicated by the necessity of a breathing tube within it. Or perhaps the liquid was the amniotic fluid from which the embryo was grown, as that's sometimes saved for analysis even for healthy growing human children. (The fluid contains DNA that can easily be extracted by use of a centrifuge to bring the denser materials such as proteins and DNA to the bottom of the centrifuge.)
>>17872624
just some dank ass crack and some whiskey
Just trash it OP. I mean do you REALLY wanna take the chance that your uncle was with some ayylmao project and get caught up in it? I would rather live my life normally than risk getting caught and ending up getting probed or turned into a guiena pig for their next "science experiment" because you knew too much about some shit that you have no buisness in.
Wait,if your uncle was given this shit by someone and they try to come back for it what are you going to do bro? Don't think they'll like you investigating into some top-class FBI shit.
I fucking dare you to drink that yellow liquid. Better yet shoot it up your blood veins. Mabye something will happen.
>>17873133
maybe mezcal to preserve the embyro, just chug that shit
Someone screencap this in case l.p. comes back.
I want more mystery. Keep posting.
How does this crystal effect light, shine a torch or laser if you got one through it and take a photo of what it does with the light, my guess is it will filter out most spectrum's. Next the random sequence of letters is probably a genetic code of some sort, or someone's incripted reprisentation of such. All I can think with the combination of what has been posted is someone is trying to geneticly modify humans, possibly by growing an embro in a cystyline structure, and at the early stages adding different protiens, and using this crystal to ensure they only have the right spectral spred for what they are trying to achieve, as they have stated it has lights progecting up through the crystal. Either that or your uncle was the greatest troll and left something he knew would intrigue people
>>17872925
Nah, homaculus confirmed
>>17872651
Nigga I'm 27 and if I scribble something fast and just need it to be readable, it looks like that
>>17872718
It's actually kinda cute... For something that is probably gonna turn into an alien and kill you.
>>17872675
Looks more like a lizard lol
wHaT tEh FFFFFFFFFUCK?
>>17872651
>>17873822
This is bullshit RP, and Il ltell you why. The guy above is correct, the writing is clearly of someone who never learnt/practiced cursive.
Nice try at OC OP, but your lazyness bit you in the ass.
>>17872628
It's his pissjug hes an r9k poster
>>17873848
Fuck you. Viva La R9K
The embryo is a chameleon, and the "DNA sequence" is much too short to be of use to any biologist as such. This is a sucky RP and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Meanwhile, if you put your thinking to actual use, you might find that there are a few /x/ related things in your posts/pics. But I'm sure those things will allude you.
If this were not RP the mods would have already deleted it.Just like that Hillary Clinton thread from earlier.
>>17873870
Lul. Bruh. DNA Sequencing is a verb, not a noun. Put that keyboard down, before you hurt yourself.
>>17873877
He said sequence, not sequencing
>>17873386
The other way to cheaply analyze a substance is to cut it into a powder, and try and light it on fire. If it combusts, you can check its spectral radiance. If not, the way it holds light as it heats up can tell you something about its elements. This only works for mostly pure substances, but if it's really crystal like the note says, then you're set.
>>17873877
I said sequence. Take your condensation and lend it to an air conditioner.
>>17873879
Nobody talks about a "DNA Sequence" except actors in CSI spin offs. Sequencing is the process by which you exhaustively map every single strand individually of a sample, not jotting down the instructions for a nucleic-acid chain quickly on a notepad. For trying to be skeptically superior, dude obviously hasn't taken a bio course in his life, or even picked up a book on anatomy for that matter.
>>17873886
>nucleic-acid chain quickly
confirmed rp.
Exactly my point. There is nothing DNA-wise you can fit in such a short sequence. And yes, we call it a sequence in my lab. I am a nobody grad-student, but I work with enough of this stuff to say that your shitty attempt to uphold rp is shitty. Thank you and goodnight.
>>17873174
Fuck that mindset. I'd rather get probed to death knowing that aliens actually existed rather than living a completely ordinary life.
If everyone though like that we would never discover anything
>>17873842
My writing looks like that and I'm middle aged. They tried to force cursive on me for many years. It didn't work. My cursive is totally illegible and I print everything.
I get a smug thrill every time I remember telling the teacher that it was irrelevant and I'd never use it as an adult. She was young enough that she surely lived to see the day that schools stopped bothering to try to teach it at all. Hopefully she remembers my face and can recall my voice, saying that it would go obsolete.
This may well be an RP, but someone not mastering that ridiculous way of writing (with the oh-so-appropriate name of "cursive") is not the evidence you think it is.
>>17873890
Oh really. And tell us, what is the minimum size of "sequence" that is required? If you don't answer the question, it's because you know I found out you're absolutely full of shit. I know the answer. I want to see how many codons you think are required for... for whatever it is you think it's required for. You never really said. "DNA-wise." The fuck does that mean?
>there's not enough sequences, DNA-wise in order to fit
Riiiiiiight.
>>17873938
Yes, and first of all, please ignore that I correctly identified the embryo. And second, your condemnation of my condemnation has exposed you as someone who a) knows nothing of these things, and b) is an idiot. I will not humor you much.
But you asked an honest question, so I'll give an honest answer. The minimum sequence needed to identify or test part of a strand depends on the characteristic or attribute that you intend to test. However, unless you are testing the simplest organisms, that much a sequence is pretty useless. It would be like trying to identify an elephant by the tint of a cell of its toenail. You are welcome.
Moreover, I have no interest in this thread. If others want to keep humoring this idiocy, be my guest, but I won't be following it any longer.
>>17873952
Who said he's trying to identify the species? Where did you pull that from? Your ass?
There is a note. It has 19 codons on it. That's enough for an epitope tag. We can only guess what that tag is for, or why his Uncle's associate felt it relevant to put it in a box.
But then here you are claiming "Weeell, you can't fit an entire genome on a piece of paper, so that's how I know this is RP." How poorly are you failing your classes, with that level of critical reading?
>>17873957
>epitope tag
Haha! It's interesting how you know terms, but not how to use them.
>>17873964
Okay. Show me then. How do you use them, and how is that different than how I used them?
>>17873971
No thanks. I don't owe you an education. If you wish to persist in pseudoscientific endeavors, then I won't step in your way.
>>17873994
Nope. You can't, because I'm actually using the terminology correctly, and you're the one who's been using it incorrectly all night.
>>17874000
Whatevs bra. People should look up this shit and decide for themselves anyway. Ciao.
>>17874006
Yeah. You're damn right. So get out of here, and quit making it for them.
The only terminology you've used are phrases I already used to this thread. You've introduced no new concepts. You're mimicking everything I say, but appending "rp" and "lol ur wrong" while inventing whatever credentials a person on the internet can invent. Because credentials over an anonymous message board is SUCH a persuasive argument. Fucking pseudoskeptics, thinking they don't have to be skeptical of their own point of view as well.
>Whatevs bra
>Lul. Bruh.
Great. So you've demonstrated apery. Well done. I'm still not fully convinced of your point though, or even really understand what your point was anyways.
>>17874023
>>17874006
i love that one of you are lying, but i don't know which
let the games begin.
>>17874094
Perhaps they're both lying. But they both left enough data to do some rudimentary research. For instance, is that a chameleon embryo? That should give us some clue if the one anon is right. Is epitope tag used correctly? If so, that's in favor of the other anon.
Google doesn't have ALL the answers, but Imma give it a go.
>>17874094
Eh. Here's my take on the matter.
There's a 50% chance that embryo's a terrestrial life form. There's a 50% chance that it's not. So the scientific thing to do is go get some DNA extracted, and sequenced. If it's threonic like the note says, that's already going be incredibly obvious upon analysis, and huge, because no known terrestrial life form has threonic nucleic acids. That's about as big a sign that it's from another world as you can get.
But, I mean, we don't know until OP checks it out. I'm not one of those "super smart" armchair scientists that can tell you everything without ever doing actual research. But if it was me, I'd buy whatever booze I needed to let my college buddies get that shit under an electron microscope, and figure out it's constituent chemicals. I mean holy shit, why are any of us on /x/ if not to investigate paranormal cases?
You don't actually get brownie points for calling out when something is RP or not. Only the audience in your imagination applauds to that.
>Oooohhh, he guessed it was fake, and he was right this time. Niiiiiice duuuuuuude!
>>17874122
50/50? Where do you get that? Also, pointing out obvious flaws in rp is not useless. If people have specific knowledge that helps us to get rid of obvious rp attempts quickly, then it helps us grow as a community of those interested in the paranormal. That said, as many shills as there are around here, you are right to point out that quick dismissals and lose credentials are not the best things to take for granted.
>>17874109
I tried Googling both, and I'm not convinced of either. I think they are both red-herrings. Better to get the OP to look into things and share some findings he can prove.
>>17872656
1. Tyrosine 2. Proline 3. Threonine 4 serine 5. Threonine 6. Glycine 8 threonine 9 glutamine 10 proline 11. Leucine 12. Proline 13 arginine 14 leucine 15 aspartic acid 16 glycine 17 methionine 18 what can only be proline but left unfinished. Anyone any idea what this sequence belongs to?
>>17874195
>50/50? Where do you get that?
Bayesian statistics. There are two possibilities. Given the evidence, the embryo could be of terrestrial origin. Given the evidence the embryo could not be of terrestrial origin. Until anyone can narrow its species type further, the odds that it is or isn't terrestrial is 50 / 50.
Dude said it looked like a chameleon to him.
>>17873870
That's ridiculous. And I can't help but sound insulting here, but that's so very ignorant of basic biology, that I have trouble believing dude's actually studying the course. But, I dunno. Education these days is pretty bad I guess.
Every embryo, as it develops, undergoes every stage of evolution that the species took to get there. You can literally see every animal that humans evolved from, by just observing a single human embryo. First, it becomes a fish, in water (the amniotic fluid) and literally uptakes the water into its body through gills. Real, actual gills, in the same place that fish and amphibian gills would be for an embryo of that species. Then it grows the tail, and so on, until it begins to differentiate in a manner specific to its species type.
The embryo in OP's post is in such an early stage of development, that it could be anything. It could be a bird. It could be a fish. It could be a human, or reptile. They all look the same at that stage, because all life comes from the same source DNA to begin with. Differentiation, only begins at a point the embryo's development that matches its evolutionary branching point. A fish embryo differentiates sooner than an amphibian, which differentiates sooner than a reptile, and so on.
So, as yet, from my understanding, there is no data on what species the embryo is, terrestrial or otherwise.
>>17874216
Most of that makes since, except this:
>Every embryo, as it develops, undergoes every stage of evolution that the species took to get there. You can literally see every animal that humans evolved from, by just observing a single human embryo. First, it becomes a fish, in water (the amniotic fluid) and literally uptakes the water into its body through gills. Real, actual gills, in the same place that fish and amphibian gills would be for an embryo of that species. Then it grows the tail, and so on, until it begins to differentiate in a manner specific to its species type.
Just no. Look up human embryo development. Yes, there's gills, but nothing like this ignorant description.
But let's get back to the OP. What is the crystal, and why should we care? Is this allium?
>>17873957
19, am i missing one? or something? i only count 17, and one that is not complete, but can only be 1 molecule after beginning with CC see>>17874196 or are you counting the questioned Threose in there?
And is there anyone on this board that actually knows some bio and can confirm or at least speculate from the given sequence?
>>17874232
Yup. Looked it up (again) and didn't see anything that contradicted my description.
If my description was incorrect, then I would have implied something that was not true, which in reality is true. What is that thing exactly?
Please don't be one of those assholes that just goes "all of it." I'm giving you the opportunity to correct my information. Please, go ahead. Teach me.
>>17874263
1) TGG: Tryptophan
2) CCC: Proline
3) ACT: Threonine
4) TCG: Serine
5) ACG: Threonine
6) ACG: Threonine
7) GGG: Glycine
8) ACT: Threonine
9) AGG: Arginine
10) CAA: Glutamine
11) CCT: Proline
12) CTA: Leucine
13) CCC: Proline
14) CGG: Arginine
15) CTC: Leucine
16) GAC: Asparagine / Aspartic Acid
17) GG?: Glycine
18) GAT: Aspartic Acid*
19) GCC: Alanine
* It's possible that he meant GGG, AT?, in which case 18) would be Isoleucine, or maybe Methionine. But I think he just forgot the third base for 17) Glycine, because it's irrelevant.
>>17874196
1. is Tryptophan
>>17874274
i, must be dyslexic as fuck missed the double up on ACG,
any idea what it would be from, or is your knowledge as fresh as mine
>>17874295
I got nothin'
The codon phrase would be one of these three:
W P T S T T G T R E P L P R L N G D A
W P T S T T G T R E P L P R L N G L P
W P T S T T G T R E P L P R L N G M P
Depending on what the missing base is on the third line of the note. None of those match any of the online databases I've checked, but... this isn't exactly my cup of tea. I do mathematics and coding, but not strictly biology.
Of course, if it is a threose based chain instead of a ribose based chain as every other organism on this planet is, then whatever peptide chain this is supposed to belong to wouldn't show up on any database. The amino acids it would be coded for wouldn't even be the same.
I can't make any assessment given that particular note. The most interesting thing about it is just that it mentions threose.
ugh you fucks really need to get better at like, props or drawing or whatever if youre gonna pull this shit. this could not be more obviously made by you op, you shitty ball point pen ass scribbly drawing fuckin ripped out sketchbook pages having ass 8th grader handwriting motherfucker
>>17874335
my thoughts exactly.
my knowledge though is pretty limited not what i have looked up tonight and some high school chem. but if it is a threose based chain, would that not indicated that what it comes from is man made?
i am quite intrigued to this whole thing, the pictures long with that sequence are odd, that symbol or what ever looks strangely familiar
>>17873127
nice summary of the fictional story presented through ops childish drawings
>>17873174
>>17873181
>samefagging this hard
>>17872651
>coordinates
rp pls go
>>17874216
>There are two possibilities
>therefor 50 / 50
kys
>>17874429
Holy desperate to get rid of the evidence.
>you should totally get rid of it, because I'm concerned over your well being
>also, inject it into your veins
That's just schilly.
>>17874455
Close. It's like this:
>There are two possibilities
>Each possibility is equally likely
>Therefor 50 / 50
x+y=1
x=y
x+x=1
2x=1
x=1/2
y=1/2
It's called Bayesian Statistics. Look it up, it's a lot harder than appending "kys" to any post that disagrees with your expectations of reality. But it's predictive value is also a lot higher than just randomly expecting things of reality, and waiting to be correct.
>>17874469
>Each possibility is equally likely
there is your flaw
>>17874458
>A Horny Ayylmao
im going to go ahead and say it is a plant based life form
https ://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130321151933.htm
Using threose based DNA, or TNA one could take a specific sequence corresponding to a certain trait they want to d into the embryo, transpose it to a TNA sequence to fit in the DNA strand and hope for the best
>>17872741
in this it looks like they have taken a plant to a basic humanoid, and>>17872746
goes on to show a humanoid in a supposed crystal chamber, i would assume that light would be essential for the survival of whatever it may be contained within, otherwise why even have lights seems pointless otherwise. and a breathing tube showing that it requires some form of gas to survive.
though if OP doesn't return maybe i can only rightly assume its all fake and that why the codon sequence was incomplete coz op didn't know wht he was doing
>>17874489
If that's correct, then you will be able to describe more possible realities given the evidence presented so far, than the number of alternate realities, given the evidence presented so far.
Go ahead. You have my attention. If you fail to do so, then I will not change my understanding that
>Each possibility is equally likely
If you succeed in describing more possible realities given the evidence presented so far, than the number of alternate realities, given the evidence presented so far, then I will of course change my probability distribution so that each plausible reality is as equally likely as the next.
That's how Bayesian Statistics works.
>>17874469
The possibility of the embryo being alien is exactly 0.
kys
>>17874512
If this were true, then that would mean the embryo being "alien" would imply something, that is not true in reality. What thing specifically would be implied by the embryo being "alien" that is not true in reality?
(Incoming meme oriented insult.)
>>17874510
It is not about presenting more possible realities. Your assessment of the likelyhood of each scenario is just off.
The fact that this is obvious rp and the embryo looks like that of a lizard or similar aside.
Earthling embryos are much more common than e.t. embryos. In fact, our sample size of alien embryos is zero. Therefor it is much more likely to find an earthling embryo.
I cant believe I have to explain this. You have a gross misunderstanding of stochastics.
By your logic I have a 50% chance of winning the lottery: either I do, or I dont.
And lastly there are in fact other possibilities. The embryo could be made out of rubber for example, or you could make your distinctions more detailed (Gecko, leguan, chameleon, alien,....)
>>17874522
It is not an alien embryo, mate. Those mental gymnastics dont alter reality
>>17874543
There are x many realities in which you win the lottery, and y many where you don't. The probability of winning the lottery is such that x+y=1.
There are two realities. One in which the embryo is an ayy, one in which is not. In order for there to be more realities than one for each, there needs to be distinguishing factors. Feel free to introduce those distinguishing factors.
Note: this requires actually making observations. Pulling shit from your ass like "it's obvious" or "that's my gut feeling on the matter" don't count. I don't know what kind of reasoning that is, but it's not stochastic.
The embryo might be rubber. I see no contradictions with that. Now there's a 25% chance it's an ayy, a 25% chance it's terrestrial, and a 50% chance it's rubber.
That's how that works. You add more details, and your probability distribution changes with each additional detail.
>>17874545
If it were not an alien embryo, then it being an alien embryo would imply that something is true, that is not also true in reality. What thing specifically does it being an alien embryo imply, that is not also true in reality?
I can do this all day long.
>>17874606
Oh man. You really had me for a while. Nobody is that retarded. But nice bait
>>17874608
I dont even know what you are on about. There are no Ifs and whens here. No implications. The embryo is not alien.
OP is a roleplaying faggot who probably stole this from biology class.
>>17874616
Yes, that's very funny. But, here's the thing. Can you actually with your words figure out the flaw in that reasoning? And here's the best part--this method I'm using, is called Bayesian Statistics. It's somewhat new, and it's what computers use to make predictive analyses. This is different from the human instinct, or "gut feeling" approach to reasoning, which may not be the most optimal method of calculation after all.
It's fascinating, because you want me to be wrong. But you're unable to actually use your words to make that happen.
>>17874625
That's a very interesting kind of reasoning you have there. No conditions. Neat.
That's not the method of reasoning I use though. I wish you will in your reality experience without conditions. I especially find it interesting how you're able to decide facets of reality by simply stating your desires with words. "This is x" and so it was. Cool.
However, over here in my reality experience, where things are based on observational evidence, that may or may not be an alien embryo. Just so ya' know.
>>17874633
>However, over here in my reality experience, where things are based on observational evidence
whats your evidence that is an alien embryo?
>>17872944
That's some serious progress inhibiting thinking right there what the fuck. How the fuck are you not interested in getting a DNA test to see if this is just a regular lizard or whatever? How stupid are you?
>>17872707
tfw not 1080p
>>17872718
I'm pretty that's a foetus and not an embryo.
>>17875615
it's 1080p quality, it's just cropped.
>>17874704
The same evidence that it's not an alien embryo. There's no evidence that is' not an alien embryo, therefor, it might be. There's not evidence that it's not a non-alien embryo, therefor it might be.
Inb4 orbital teapots. You can go fuck yourself with your teapot, and I read Bertrand Russel's Mathematica Principia, and it was invalid. Orbital teapots produce resultant gravitational waves on the rest of the system. It has a non-zero detection threshold. And so do alien embryos.
The detection threshold is: sample it's god damned DNA, and see what it's made of.
That looks like your handwriting
>>17874429
Yeah,I posted both. I admit it, I was being a troll and I regret nothing.
>>17876128
fair enlough my nigger
>>17872960
>>17873038
It's almost definitely amber. Maybe something is preserved in there, but is too small to see.
>>17874216
Say you have a paper bag with marbles inside. 7 are red, 3 are blue. You pull out one marble, which will be either red or blue--two possibilities. What are the chances of pulling out a red marble? 50%?
That's a chameleon, idiots.
>>17872651
dude i write worse then that. infact thats what my grandmas r's look like.
>>17872939
dude it wasnt an alein he drew the fucking creature in the bottle
>>17874122
>There's a 50% chance that embryo's a terrestrial life form. There's a 50% chance that it's not.
There's a 50% chance you'll win the lottery.
You either win it or you don't.
