I have a xxx related question so where to ask better but here I thought.
I try to stop fapping and porn because I know how miserable it makes me feel but I seem to fail always, whenever I have the chance to fap I do.
So I can avoid porn most of the time but I somehow get dragged back to it easily and my body just does what he wants even my mind says no.
I wonder if porn is sort of black magic and if there is a way to counter it.
I try to find my way back to god but I don't pray regularly, also I feel like it makes the bodily urge stronger since I try to be more christian?
Would it help to chant a prayer against my addiction?
Any other better ideas how to get rid of this demon?
I know about the nofap communities around but it doesn't really help, for acute situations maybe but my mind is so hardwired to fapping, I want to change my mindset completely.
Please help
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Put your cock in a cage
>>17803820
You probably need to have more stuff to do throughout the day.
Getting a partner is the only cure.
>>17803820
It's not black magic, you idiot. You just have no self control.
think abot porno's and lewd junk and fapping until you get a horny buzz and your genitalia gets tingly and hold it for abot 5 min. and don't play with yourself and then go do something else mundane like drink a glass of water and then when u get done u will be able to relase yoru horny without playing with yourself and you can keep your chi inside you - helps with meditation and makes u feel better.
>>17803820
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These people would love for you to join their conversation.
As always I must recommend meditation & self awareness.
>mind is hard wired to fap.
No. You are a weak child with no self control.
>>17803820
So, what exactly do you think is wrong with fapping? Sure, addiction to pleasure is a real thing, but is it keeping you from going to work or school or maintaining familial relationships and friendships?
>>17803874
Actually compulsive fapping will change the reward pathways in your brain much the same way a physically addictive substance like caffeine or nicotine does. I'm not saying self control isn't a factor but it's not the only one.
>>17803886 so... Cold turkey is always the proven most effective way to quit nicotine...
>>17803820 just quit masturbating!!!
>>17803820
Pork is something you can become addicted to, not a chemical dependancy like heroin, but more of an 'I don't know what else to do' thing, like smoking / pot, within 24 hours your body is over it, but your brain just can't think of anything else. If you stop fapping just be prepared for the blueballs and ample free time.
Get into yoga/meditation, find a couple good video games, single players are better because there isn't the gap break between matches, or better yet break away from the vidya, go for a walk in the park, call someone to play frisbee, find something active so you forget how much your balls hurt, and something standing so your hands don't default to resting on your lap, old movies with 0 sex appeal, etc.
If you really feel an unhealthy urge to gap constantly you are going to have to commit to a bit of a lifestyle change, and don't beat yourself up every time you beat off, it's gonna happen, just don't do it every day.
>>17803918
Fuck my auto correct, God damnit...
>>17803820
just jerk off without porn. Then one day, you aren't into porn any more.
You will fail more than once, but do not give up.
One thing that helps me is avoiding 4chan late at night. There is kind of a fap culture (less so on blue boards) and I prefer delving into archaeology/magic videos on YouTube at night. I've done nofap before right now I'm trying to do it in more moderation because I think it will increase my willpower.
perhaps it might prove useful to think of habits in terms of thought forms - structures that have been ingrained in your very being through repetition. What keeps such an entity alive is the continuous and or repetitive emotionally empowered attention you yourself willingly give in succumbing to temptation - in time defying and eventually ignoring the temptation will de facto cause the deeply set thought form to disintegrate - it is a parasite in the sense that habits can only live as long as you feed them. Now, to fight and ignore the temptation from now till infinity is understandably something of an effort. a very human effort, but a remarkably stiff one.
I applaud your decision to not fap anymore OP. Good luck.
Religion and praying isn't the way to go. Every time you pray the fap monsters away you're thinking about it. Same as meditating. Just find a new hobby and quit fixating on it so much.
Certain triggers, like a bedtime fap, you'll just have to suck it up and force yourself not to. You'll get there. Set a goal to not do it for at least three weeks and commit yourself to it.
You'll be fine.
>>17803949
Already jerking without porn but I'm still jerking.
My brain >>17803886
Is fucked I guess.
I need some traumatising experience maybe to stop.
>>17803972
That's not what I said at all, your brain is not "fucked" and you do need to exercise better self control. Don't think in such absolute terms and don't use my post to validate your shitty choices senpai
>>17803820
According to my beliefs what is happening is you are putting a program inside of you. Picture that your body has its own separate concious and whatever you feed it becomes the thing it desires. If you are programming it to get a desire that is not being fulfilled, you may be creating an automatic response and possibly a thoughtform trying to stay alive. The only way this can be black magick is if you are intending it to be...but if you are programming unhealthy desires, you are corrupting your body or should I say your subconcious, remember you are what you eat and if you are programming sexual program in your body more than other much needed programming, you are hardwiring your subconscious to be more sexual or more shallow and sexual programming is very strong (via it is an element of creation and life). If you dont have the will to control it, it will control you, so either own up to what you are doing and accept it or change it or keep letting your subconcious dictate what you feed your mind body and soul. Your subconcious seems to only see and want what our primal instincts and desires, but the self concious and the higher concious are capable of seeing What makes sense, what is safe and what is morally wrong. Which one would you wrather be ruled by? In my opinion, a healthy well rounded and balanced individual uses all three of his conscious.
>>17804080
Oh Ok, sorry mate
>>17804171
Wow
Thanks a lot everyone for your input
>>17803820
>delusions
>religion
its too much testosterone up your soy intake and get false estrogens to level your stupid male brain out
I CLOSE MY EYES AND SIEZE IT
>>17803820
porn is tantric sex magic with purpose of making an addiction demon.
>>17803820
OP, every time you feel like you're going to masturbate, or you think about porn, do the LBRP
Spiritual beliefs or not, it'll help you banish those thoughts, or 'demons'
>>kheper.net/topics/Hermeticism/LBR.htm
