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Is it possible to meditate properly without the full lotus position?
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My knees would not allow me. What is the next best thing /x/?
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Sitting in a chair.
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>>17727412
why does no one ever recommend just laying straight up and down in a bed to meditate?

All my breakthroughs were when I was incredibly relaxed like so.
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Try mantra meditation (such as the Hare Krsna mahamantra) which can be enacted anytime under any condition.
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>>17727427
Because most people fall aslesp in that position. But yes, I do my meditations lying on my back in bed
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>>17727412
Stretch. A lot. Padmasana is the most stable posture for long meditations.
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>>17727412

In the zen tradition, half lotus or seiza (with a pillow or bench) would be fine too. Anything will do really, especially if you are not following an Asian tradition (where people traditionally sit on the floor).
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>>17727416
>>17727427
>>17727433
>>17727437

Thanks guys.

Wonder wich one is the best though. Ill try each and see wich one works for me. Thanks again.
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Can anyone recommend a good meditation site ? It's so hard to find things because everyone is just so westernized feel good spiritual shit.
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>>17727412
>mildly lmao

Yeah

Next best thing? Shit don't matter. I like sitting comfy as all fuck!
>>17727427
Thats an asana (posture) what the West terms Yoga lulz, its called Corpse Pose and its my favorite besides sitting all comfy. For example I am maximum comfy right now doing some shit!

4chan = 4 zen = for meditation
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GUIZ HOW DO I MEDITATE I WANNA FICKI FICKI IN THE ASTRAL REALM
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>>17727477
Go to a park and sit on a bench?
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>>17727477
FUCK THAT!!! Buy this book!

http://www.amazon.com/Vijnanabhairava-Divine-Consciousness-Treasury-Sanskrit/dp/8120808207/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=07B3GW3WNVF2SGQH3Z0S
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>>17727487
I said meditation not drug deals

>>17727499
I'll look into this thanks
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>>17727482
calm down grasshopper, you must first open your "eyes" then ficki in the astral realm
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> Is it possible to meditate properly without the full lotus position?

No.
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>>17727412

Well OP yes.

I do full lotus, kirtan kriya regularly.
But I also do kirtan kriya mediation when I am walking and around people, and at school.

If I can't sit, I still touch index finger and thumb.

In fact there are some days when I am literally doing kirtan kriya all day.
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>>17727533
What is the next best thing for you then :^)
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>>17727557
Quitting meditation.
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>>17727412
Yes of course it is.
Yoga and meditation are a great compliment to each other but by no means mutually exclusive.
Yoga is wonderful though, with practice your knees will abide.
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>>17727412
Do you know what board you're on bro?
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>>17727569
>Thinks yoga = asanas

I want plebs to leave.
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>>17727576
So much this! My parents think they practice Yoga lmao. I had to laugh in my dads face and tell him no those are asanas.

Asanas aren't even 1% of Yoga like Tantric Sex isn't even 1% of Tantra.

Just the other day had some woman telling me I need to practice Yoga meanwhile this is me, pic related lol.
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>>17727576
I agree with you, man.
I was "taught" yoga by my new-age sister, we both know it isn't the full picture.
Still a compliment to meditation.
It's a journey, man.
If he's meditating it matters not if he's doing it "right"
No one learns if we pretend this is some kind of unattainable alchemy.
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>>17727487
I tried meditating in a park once, but people called the cops on me.
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>>17727595
>other people are meditating wrong and im enlightened.
toppest of keks
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>>17727612
>I agree with you, man.

Then don't spread misinformation. It helps no one and just partonizes people.
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>>17727627
It's a joke post
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>>17727627
Doing asanas is not meditation; its doing stretches. Shit I just call it meditation not enlightenment. I consider Buddha mode enlightenment and thats a whole nother level!
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>>17727646
It's 50/50 this is /x/ after all
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>>17727648
Yes exactly.
It's not meditation.
It can help though.
>>17727635
I spread no misinformation.
asanas =/= yoga
and yoga =/= meditation.
They are all just pieces of a bigger puzzle.
I would consider the idea that you have to be a master of one to master either to be misinformation.
>>17727412
there is no try OP, only learning,
You might go slower, but there is nothing wrong with that.
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>>17727612
>unattainable alchemy LOL

ON DAT SHIT; ALL DAY ERRY DAY!

One way of looking at it is its like having sex with existence; that is real Yoga. Theres 3 types of enlightenment. Imperfect enlightenment like the level born again Christians are at. Some consider this enlightenment and technically yes kinda but its not like the FULL version! There is also two other kinds of enlightenment that are exactly the same the only difference is one is permanent. Perfect enlightenment and Absolute or Unconditioned enlightenment. Imperfect enlightenment ranges from like the equivalent to holding hands with god to having sex with god from a human perspective. Full enlightenment is like image getting raped by god from gods perspective; YEAH!!!
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>>17727678
sort of.
In my opinion it's like getting raped by God, and at the same time not giving a fuck.
I'm gonna die.
You're gonna die
we all gonna die.
Not giving a shit is enlightenment.
If I'm wrong I don't give a shit.
Not giving a shit is a major part of meditation as far as I'm concerned.
And well, if you disagree.....
I don't give a shit
Our paths are our own.
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>>17727505
What's wrong with sitting quietly on a park bench?

>>17727619
Were you naked?
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>>17727452
>Padmasana
enjoy you destroyed knees in the future
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>>17727699
I agree lmao. Truly not giving a fuck is how I can even find absolute horrors hilarious! lmao This is how far Ive gone with my not giving a fuck practice...

People have different goals in life like want to be a multimillionaire or get a 10/10 woman. Ive gotten to the point were all I want is to be murdered slowly and get VIP straight to Hell! I think it would be hilarious! I love it all!

How much do you not give a fuck? Curious how extreme you've gone with it. :)

If you think Im exaggerating check this story out from 3 weeks ago. Had gangbangers telling me they were going to shoot me up while Im in their face on the level of...

GOD DOESNT HAVE THE BALLS, TO KILL ME!!!!!
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>>17727912
silly person
you think not giving a fuck is equal to worst case scenario.
Give it time,son.,
It's not gonna hurt.
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Does anyone else feel like they sway back and forth involuntarily when tht meditate?
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>>17727927
I know, pain feels good. Im a bit silly, yeah. :) No I think not giving a fuck gives you tremendous power cause there are zero fucks to give.
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>>17727934
You are noticing the blood flowing through your body. Unless you are talking about really advanced shit were theres so much chi flowing through you that you vibrate.
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>>17727936
nah.
pain hurts like fuck.
real bad.but that is how life do
embrace it.
or you'll never get used to it.
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>>17727940
>really advanced shit
no such thing, brother.
It hurts us all the same
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>>17727412
position is irrelevant as long as you can stay relaxed without falling asleep
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>>17727412
Yes it is. The key is to be relaxed, and leave your body in your mind, once you realize the truth.

"I Am No THING".
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>>17727947
EMBRACE IT FULLY!!!

You experience anything strongly enough you experience bliss. ;)
>>17727951
Really advanced shit doesn't exist? lmao Yeah it does :).

I can experience pain as bliss. I can interpret things energetically were for example hunger doesn't feel like hunger at all it just feels like a disruption in the flow of chi; like a weakness of chi. I can meditate in such a way that freezing cold doesn't seem cold it just feels mystic.
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You dont need any postures for meditation, meditation is not a doing but is a being, you can be doing anything and still meditate however you can do that after you can comfortably meditate in a stillness, you can be in any position you like as long as you are comfortable and your spine is straight, dont screw up your knees trying to get into the full lotus
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Yes, you can have any position.. preferably comfortable. Just be comfy and attempt to focus on nothing.. or if you're meditating on something you should focus on only that
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>>17727912
>>17727936
>>17728119
Now that is what I call edgy
What you think is enlightenment is what I think of as recklessness as a result of suicidal tendencies. Honestly you sound like a massive faggot.
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>>17728335
>lol :)

I haven't said what I think is enlightenment; what are you talking about? Enlightenment is the most hardcore thing you can do! Its like having the balls to say fuck myself my body/mind now belongs to god and you become possessed by god to such an extent that you are literally a walking incarnation of god; your body is just a pair of clothes for it. Even Im not ready; its fucking BIG TIME!

>How bout I smack your shit?

>tfw even by /x/'s standards Im edgy lol.
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>>17728489

cringe
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>>17728335
>suicidal tendencies

What you call suicidal tendencies I call not being afraid of god. Actually I am but I embrace it!
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>>17728494
>LMAO
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>>17728489
Damn niga, get some HIV meds bro.

You look weak.

Be safe bro, shit don't die mang.
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>Half lotus

>However you're comfortable upright with your back straight


That's really all that matters.
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>>17728489
Oh my god the autism is unbearable
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>>17728513
Just cutting down to MMA lightweight; getting in fighting shape. Weak lol. Im 158 lbs there.

Took this the day I benched 300 lbs at 210 lbs late 2014. Do I look weak here? Was Incline Flying 90's late into workout.
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>>17728540
>lol :)
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>>17728582
Better shot bro, you don't look sick with HIV now.

That's great bro, keep it up get some Creatine. Lifting is next to godliness.
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>>17728588
top memes friendo
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>>17728582
>>17728489
>tfw no qt prison tattoo bf to choke me and pull my hair
why do only chivalrous betas hit on me
life is suffering ;-;
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>>17727762
>destroyed knees
>yoga
check out this morbidly obese pleb
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>>17727477
The divine life society.
Thank me when you've awakened, brother.
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>>17727412
Not sure what your goal is. You can get a yoga mat and lie on ur back. There is a certain way to gradually relax every muscle from head to toe. Face your palms up. Now the hard part. Empty your mind, you are entering a dark theatre for your favorite movie and it's pitch blacked. You sit in your favorite seat. The theatre is empty. Gradually a white circular light starts on the screen and slowly it's getting bigger, taking over your view. All you see is white, you hear nothing. It's just you and a bright white light.

Now you focus on the white space for 5 minutes or 10 and then start to wiggle your toes and fingers. Sleep should never cross your mind during this meditation and you can't have noise or let your thoughts consume you

Namaste bitch
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>>17728639
How would you like to be treated?
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>>17729004
Idk but I'm just so tired of soft spoken, beta fuckbois.
Is it so hard to find someone to pull my hair and be aggressive.
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>>17729080
I always wanted to pin a woman down, pull her hair, push her legs as far as possible without hurting too much but I get thoughts of going to prison if she doesn't want it.
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>>17729080
I wish I could find a woman that would let me aggressively explore her.
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>>17729090
>possible without hurting too much but I get thoughts of going to prison if she doesn't want it.
That's why you talk about it beforehand, also if she wants to she'll bring it up. Otherwise you're probably going to be looking at a case of regret "rape". I asked an ex bf to choke me before and he thought it was "too weird". Can't change boring vanilla people.

>>17729092
You're looking in the wrong places
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Isn't meditation like the opposite of paranormal?
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>>17727595
>people try to debate my yoga skills
>my kundalini's face when(pic related, he's on the right)
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>>17729254
>not meditating in order to contact satan
pleb spelled A N O N
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>>17728639
Go to bed, "K".
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yeah. just lay on your back and get comfy. that's all there is to it
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>>17729275
Not sure who "K" is, but that's not me
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>>17728954
That's one way to do it, but there are a ton of other ways, which after some practice can skyrocket your conscienceness in a matter of seconds and keep it there for hours, if not days. As some anon mentioned above, one of those is mantra meditation. You lock out all your senses as much as you can and keep a silent chant that resonates to every single corner of your mind as you climb an endless ladder, how far you can go is up to just pure willpower.
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>>17729412
you know I've noticed that people that meditate are usually dipshits though how does this work does your increased make you sound dumber in this realm because your mind has left this dimension partially?
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>>17729430
increased consciousness*
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>>17729080
Probably because you put off an image that is counter to what you're going for. Failing that, blame the rest of your womenfolk for creating social pressures for males to act like soft spoken, beta, fuckbois, even while their own biology rebels against their ideology and craves an alpha. Humans are their own worst enemies, but I swear, women take it to the next level when it comes to self-sabotage.
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>>17729430
It's basically a state of the mind which has left most of the worldly affairs and worries behind to reach a different realm of understanding and comprehesion, to connect the spirit and soul with the most basic energy of the universe and try to understand the laws behind it. That's my personal understanding tho, the whole point of doing it is to find your own answers. And yes, most plebs who meditate are smug douchebags who cant wait to tell you that they meditating and express how superior they are in the level of consciousness than you, even though it isn't necessarily true at all. People who brag about such things while looking for attention, support and admiration from others, have missed the whole point of the practice.
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>>17729718
it was just a prank bro.
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>>17728598
>Juicing the juice!

I imagine your cruisin on some Test E maybe 500mg or are you all legal getting TRT 250mg?
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>>17728489
post moar pls
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>>17728639
Would like to gently manhandle you. Ironically now at 158 lbs as basically a lightweight I am WAY more alpha now than when I was a heavy weight. Lifting is kind of an illusion. It gives you strength but my insane confidence comes from studying tons of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and deciding I want to punch people in the face for fun and concreted by the desire to become a professional MMA fighter. Literally becoming too ALPHA. Feel like the apex predator. Would love to see a pic of you or someone who looks like you. ;)

Went to a show last night and literally the only one more alpha than me was OTEP.

If not aware of OTEP keep in my mind the album Im posting is far and away their worst! First few albums are fucking LEGENDARY! She has like a dozen songs that are so good they are ridiculous! Heres a random goodie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWNODP-9F-4
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>>17729872
Gaylord
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>>17729254
It shows that the paranormal is normal but you have to see for yourself through meditation cause without it you will not get it.
>>17729271
>lol

Please don't ban if this isn't allowed on this forum. Saved it a day ago off of /x/. Satanism is paranormal how else he gonna get those sluts naked?
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Lie on your back naked, in complete darkness, with your ears plugged.

>>17727619
Need a story on this.
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>>17729080
Women and druggies are the main reason this board is shit
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>>17729266
>muh kundalini face

>tfw meditating on Bhairava for days so naturally in Bhairava Mudra. Talked earlier about talkin mad shit to gangbangers saying they are going to kill me; I thought that shit was funny and laughed at them. When they disrespected me in a way that got under my skin and what I learned in prison you don't let shit like that slide for a second! I lost my mind! Didn't let that shit slide a millisecond and literally can't even tell you what was said cause I showed them ME! I don't think they've ever seen someone weild so much power. One guy even had his hand on the gun half the time while Im talking about shredding another ones face with my fighting ring. This Crip there holding me back lol. I guess we were on the same side; found it interesting that I was bringing it at least 10 times harder! I just met that dude but told him the only one more psycho than me Ive ever met was the leader of the Galena Park Crips. After that incident I realized I trumped his psycho ass lol. We would fight multiple times when we hung out. Last time we hung out I fought him 6 times and he tried to break my neck; hes the reason I can pop my neck lol; he tried to break it. Just painting a picture yall might find interesting.

>Bhairava/bhairavi mudra. Bhairava means "terrifying" and it is an adjective applied to Shiva in his fierce form that he assumes for the dissolution of evil.
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>>17728241
I see,what you're saying is don't allow the technique to become a ritual.
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>>17729872

>Im starting to realize Im not as pretty as I thought lulz.

What would ya rate out of 10?
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>>17728241
>>17730070
Not him but in my tradition it is said that meditating while in the midst of the world is multiple times stronger; forgot how much exactly cause Im a tard. I guess its cause if you can go into such states while living a normal life it is much more powerful. Cause if you can only get into certain states in a quiet meditation room how are you going to bring that level of consciousness into the real world?
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>>17727412
the next best stance is burmese stance, I cant do lotus stance either cause my legs fall asleep and I get really uncomfortable, burmese stance is where it is at my friend.
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>>17727412
>My knees would not allow me.

Stretching and exercise will help. Maybe some hatha yoga.
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>>17727533
"Proper" meditation is a personal preference. Certain positions can help, but ultimately if a person is uncomfortable it will be a lot more difficult to meditate.
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>>17727427
Yeah I do it that way most of the time. Helps if you out one of this cylinder pillow beneath your knee so there isn't any strain on your lower back.
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