what's the truth about yaveh and lucifer?
>inb4 im an atheist they don't exist lol
im an atheist they don't exist lol
>>17646324
:((
>>17646314
They don't exist. Judaism/Christianity/islam and anything in between are just religions created to cull the masses. It's why the church amassed so much political power.. through fear
In Christianity they even made Jesus a pacifist to avoid rebellion.
I figure this is an answer you didn't want to hear, but if it makes you feel better I'm not an atheist.
>>17646349
This is a really good answer, but I wanted to know something more about Lucifer's story and origins.
By the way, what's your religion?
>>17646349
t. parrot
>>17646324
/thread
>>17646349
You're a fucking gayfer
>>17646358
It's a sort of .. odd thing I suppose. I am a Discordian, but not exactly in the same way as you see most of us.
I recognize Eris' other aspects: Morrighan, Freyja, Isis.. To name some.
I recognize that she is a goddess of cycles as well as chaos.. the universe has a chaotic nature to it, but also works in cycles. Life, death, the seasons.
I see her as having a great sense of humor, however. If you've heard of Eris then you know what I mean
>>17646377
no you
>>17646364
what's up?
>>17646314
Lucifer led a rebellion against a corrupt god, and had to pull back due to Micheal and his angels who were so eagerly indoctrinated by yaveh, and his dictatorship of the heavens. the reason lucifer rebelled is because god and his angels were divising a plan that were turn sentient beings into slaves, which would be us. yaveh then created us, and then blatently lied to us about how the universe was made to keep us loyal to his plan. he created the fruits of knowledge to be used when the adam and eve were completely indoctrinated, but that didn't happen, because lucifer saw hope in the human race, and decided to help us. when humans started to rebel with lucifers army, god commited mass genecide, by drowning the inhabitants of this planet. it is said that some of Lucifer's army still survived, but that could be just speculation.
>>17646314
Ahriman is the ultimate evil and the opposite of the supreme God, Satan is just a nobody who rebelled one day.
>>17646386
Where can u find more info about u guise?
>>17647024
This is correct in a sense if you consider, Lucifer=Enki
>>17647204
Well, you can research her different names. If you want to learn more about Discordianism itself you can read the Principia Discordia. You can find a PDF on Google easily
>>17647204
also, one thing you must know is that different cultures see her (and the other gods) differently, at least, somewhat. This means that they might be believed to be different gods. look out for the similarities and you'll see em. Like how Ra is Apollo and Eris is Morrighan
i have a metaphor.
- I am sitting in a room. Along flies a bee.
There. Did you like it?
>>17646386
Is theres a way to get freyja to kill Eris?
or summon freyia to stop Eris?
the feminism cult comes from Eris and this has to end for good.
>>17647358
the feminism cult was started by men. feminism has perverted feminity and it means to be a woman.
>>17646314
Lucifer is a fallen angel who believed that he was greater than God. He delights in spreading deceit and lies among God's people. He is the source of all evil on the planet.
>>17647358
feminism cult? Wtf? And Eris IS Freyja
>>17647396
yeah. females need to act like females. not like men.
>>17647408
No, he's not
>>17646386
>I am a Discordian, but not exactly in the same way as you see most of us.
So you're one of us who have extensively looked at the philosophy and understand the union of opposites aren't you?
I like you fnord.
>>17646349
You do realize there were other religions before those you stated were created. And partially they were designed off of ancient ones. But the argument to cull the masses is faulty and shallow.
>>17647440
They won't listen.
They never listen.
>>17647408
>greater then God
Should probably reread everything. Cause you missed so much.
>>17647430
Your way scares me but what if its right? Am I just being a pussy?
>>17647455
Why do you mean "my way"?
>>17647418
>>17647396
theres a weird cult behind the feminism movement with the new twin towers they built it as soon was the towers was built feminism came out and the twin towers represent the powers of both men and women together as one.
research!
>>17647465
Your way of living through chaos
>>17647430
thanks
>>17647440
I know that there were others before. I don't see what point you're trying to make.
>>17647469
everyone lives through chaos. chaos is the energy of destruction and creation
chaos is all things, the union of opposites.
both order and disorder come from chaos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy
>>17647469
The universe works through chaos. just do what you want, that's our way.. free will. You don't have to be silly, just do what you want. make life enjoyable
>>17647479
Yes but why the fnord memes and stuff?
>>17647469
i know what he means i lost my first born to a witch family who wanted my child for themselves
the entire family is into magic and i wasnt i was shunned they put hard shit on me lost my job she was always stressed out we get into an argument and baaamm!!
there goes an indefinite restraining order against me and her now i can only see my kid via skype
Magic is real!!
went to church to see if God was there to help heal my soul and the ppl inside the church was even worst.
>>17647489
fnord can be used many ways
>>17647494
Do you really worship bob?
>>17647518
I don't really worship anything.
Bob is (semi)unrelated to discordianism.
he's like our cousin with the same ideas but he comes up with stupid ways to word it
>>17647529
so you believe he existed? On another note do you think there will be an alien invasion real or staged or whatever
>>17647543
>so you believe
fnord
>>17647467
what i mean by females need to act like females instead of acting like a man and calling it "woman"
because males empower themselves by skill.
woman empower themselves by being whores.
And i said males, because "Men" are doing the whore thing too. But with money, instead of skill.
>>17647474
Thats how the world governments worked back then. King, Queen, Priest that was parliament.
Jesus used teaching from Enoch. Which was 4000 years before his time. He wasnt created through religion but eventually used in allegory for it. They kept records back then he was not some fictional character.
Or we can disregard all of ancient egypt pharoahs as being creations for religion. They exist hardly in record but their monuments exist. Cleopatra king tut or whatever. Thousands of years before christ. But they exist.
There is a truth. A loving father who cares for us all. If you want to know the truth, go to: jw.org
>>17647549
that dudes eyes creep me out.. I'm new to this kind of stuff so based on my dumb brain this is like a satanic taoism
>>17647300
Thanks, based anon
>>17646314
Let's just cut to the chase. Here's the truth about the true history of judaism and its abundant lies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg
Now you can conveniently shitcan all the satanist conspiracy shit because none of it is real and is just fearmongering propaganda made up by American protestant lunatics.
>>17647580
that video is trash it didnt even talk about the sumerians
>>17647564
Obviously they existed before. I don't understand why you're telling me this.
>>17647577
no problem, my friend
>>17647588
You have to actually watch it, stupid. It mentions both Enuma Elish and the Epic of Gilgamesh.
>>17646314
YHVH is a cosmic entity, born of form. His worship encourages mortal creations towards an egocentric, stagnant sort of adoration. Believers are ushered towards a heaven of sorts, a spiritual haven where followers can thrive for eternity underneath stringent devotion.
On the other hand, Lucifer points towards the formless, to the unlimited potential of humanity and its introspective reconstructions. Believers are ushered towards a spiritual immortality of enlightenment and creativity. Being a Satan, Lucifer is linked to the pan-chaos, the primordial essence contained within and linking each of us, awaiting to be unlocked by the calling of the timeless ones.
>>17646314
What sorta truth? From which perspective? In allegory to Pilate, notabene later martyr for faith and Saint in forms of Coptic Christianity.
"Yaveh" or YHVH (Y*hwe/Y*howah, name you're not supposed to say in vain, "I am that/who I am") is Ein Sof the Endless one and Infinite, Omnipotens. The prime cause of everything.
Lucifer (Helel ben Shachar - Helel son of Venus/The Morning Star, Heylel) was "the original rebel". The Fallen Angel (Devil) of the Seraphim rank (first choir, said to had 12 wings originally) who wants to lead astray the masses from G-d. Reason of fall was revealed during exorcisms of the Sebastian Michaelis - Wanting to know the "Secret of G-d" from Jesus. Folk etymolody says he was jelly of the fact that Yeshu will incarnate as a human, him being the perfect of all angels.
Compare this to story of Kasbeel, one of the "Gnostic Archons".
Not to confuse with Satan like OP's picture does "the Judge/Accuser" (see Advocatus Diaboli). Those are different beings alltogether. The confusion again comes due to the story of Kazbiel, whose name was changed during his fall into "He who lied to G-d".
>>17647118
huh? i looked him up he's some babylonian king?
>>17650372
What the fuck are you talking about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angra_Mainyu
Literally the first hit. He's the dark god in Zoroastrianism. Jesus Christ, /x/ has jew filtered Mesopotamian poisoning. Purge. Not everything is fucking Sumerian or Babylonian because some moron kike convinced you they were devil-worshippers.
>>17646314
some people go to great lengths to glorify the devil..
sadly most of these people are the devil himself, or have already been turned into devils
Satan is merely a tentacle monster who keeps his "spirit" "alive" by feeding off the living
He is at this point, an oppressive drone like network of lizards, zombies, bodies being kept alive after their deaths...
his spirit is dark black and empty
The True Believer believes that gods exist outside of their head. Mindcucked.
The atheist materialist believes that gods don't exist outside of minds, and that mental content doesn't matter. Mindless.
The third way affirms that gods exist solely within the noosphere, the realm of human thought, but that this is important - after all, your consciousness exists in this realm as well! Gods are Egregore, memetic entities, archetypes.
Materialism sees consciousness as merely an illusion, ideas and subjective experience aren't actually real, only the firings of neurons is. Neurtral monism affirms that both the physical and mental exist, not as separate things, or one "more real" than the other, but overlapping. This is based on how we perceive, which is a combination of physical sensory input and mental interrelations.
In short, it isn't about whether or not gods exist, but how they exist. Gods are manifested whenever they are considered, as with any idea, and when they are exist just as much as your consciousness does. Through human bodies they affect action.
Under this consideration, gods are not static, they are different in each mind. They may have similarities, common themes, and so when we talk about "yahweh" and "lucifer" we aren't talking about discrete and unitary things, but classes and patterns. What gods mean and represent is subjective and contextual.
To me, Yahweh, the God of Judaeo-Christianity, is the ultimate tyrant. Kim Jong Il in the sky. It is the wet dream of authoritarian minds that seeks to become a reality through human hands. It must be destroyed, and to destroy God in one's mind is a rejection of its compulsion on you. Lucifer, the rebel against the tyrant, is thus a hero. This is why luciferianism is simultaneously atheistic in the materialistic sense, but religious and spiritual in the mental sense. It is a narrative stance.
>>17650427
The irony is that you described God. God only exists via belief and threatens the worst punishment for nonbelief. The devil, lucifer etc do no such thing.
God promises life after this one - zombiehood - and destroys all the value of life in this life, because it is only a means to the end of the afterlife.
The oppressive network of drones can be seen in the network of priests and believers who attempt to manifest their beliefs in reality. Contrary to conspiracy theories there is no network of evil illuminati satanist plotters, there is only those who use the light of reason to illuminate the unknown. They share common purpose only by their commitment to understanding reality, which seems like a conspiracy to you because it is the utter opposite of your darkness.
God is dark black and empty, like death which god-monglers seek, lucifer is light.
>>17650459
*pindrop*
There are two dynamically opposing forces on earth, but only One All Powerful One above all.
The two appoint forces, I suspect are Accusaation verses Recovery
Satan the Accuser (You suck, pay me money)
Yeshua (You will name him Salvation for he will Save his people)
And the Father of Rescue is God and God is Love and Love is Selfless. You know, not being locked up in neurosis, having an anticipatory momentum, riding the wave that sees the future, losing yourself to find yourself, you know, not being lock up in navel gazing, no being locked up in neurosis, you know NOT being locked up in accusation.
Love.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!
>>17646314
www.kjvtoday.com
www.holytext.org/gospel
All gods are weak and none deserve our worship. They are simply higher dimensional beings that wish to control us. Gods only control us if we let them.
>>17650439
Most underrated post so far
I suggest people to save this for eventual reposts
>>17646314
I'm an atheist, they don't exist. lol
PROTIP: Saying "atheists/skeptics keep out" will not keep them out.
something something we will all perish something something we must all pay for our sins
>>17647024
you do realise none of this is in the bible and therefore non-canon, right?
>>17651418
samefag enjoy burning in hell
Jesus is Lord
>>17652207
did he do anything wrong or you mean just because he doesn't believe?
>>17652215
you can't be neutral on a moving train
>>17652223
so for you an hermit would also be an enemy?
>>17652224
No man is my enemy, but those who keep the truth hidden. I've dabbled in the occult for a long time before I was saved by the Lord Jesus Christ, and it's a god given right to everybody to be saved. The rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper and deeper and it doesn't end. The occult will take you further away from God until you're lost
>>17652255
and misguiding people, deceiving them, that's evil. That is the enemy. Lies and deception
heres the real truth, told to me by my bro tay ho tay.. otherwise known as thoth, or the son of enki, one of the people known as god of the old testament.. fun fact elohim is the plural form of god.. meaning a group of gods. anyways thats why god has a wrathful side and a bro side. marduk, enlil and anu being the jerk side and enki and his allies as the bro side.
tldr the old testament is the story of the annunaki as told by their creations.
now jesus and his god is different. my personal journey led me down the path of meditation and self mastery.. guess what.. thats what jesus was talking about, but only if you go down that path do you realize that.
one more thing, im also into magick, and thoughtforms are a thing and legit, so the christian god definitely exists, but so do all the rest. humans are gods, and we create our own reality. if you believe in something enough, it will be your reality. cheers.
