has anyone on /x/ met an actually illuminati/mason/discordian member?
what were they like?
are they the conspirators they claim to be?
Yes my grandpa was a mason for decades and it's nothing interesting unless you are a billionaire
>>17629608
what about the illuminati/discordians?
they don't need money because they control things from the shadows
>>17629601
My dad is a mason and there is literally nothing special about it
Very personally. And ^ your right.
>>17629608
>it's nothing interesting unless you are a billionaire
Sure sounds like a scientology-esque money laundering scheme.
Personally both my Mother and Grandmother were in the masons and they said they performed witchcraft and other occult things.
>>17629601
I don't think it's just a rich club like these shills will tell you
>>17629608
>>17629617
shills
>>17629601
Hi OP, I have been performing Freemasonry stuff for maybe 6 years. Before that I practiced occult stuff and different systems but nothing really worked.
I found a few things that did work for me, and it wasn't really bad because I wasn't really abusing it.
Long story short, I had some basic impulses and I did go through an extreme leftist phase. But recently as of April, those basic impulses telling me where I needed to be in life, to survive right now. (In this time peroid.) Those basic unconscious impulses turned into full awaking and knowledge of the movements and all parties involved, along with a few other abilities to since memetic shifting in emotions and concepts that are controlling people. It was as if, all at once I knew what was true and not true.
And I saw the whole world differently, and all human history differently.
I can honestly say, it has made me fear God. (and I am still trying to maintain my sanity and make the right decision.)
>>17629626
>Personally both my Mother and Grandmother were in the Masons
Stopped right there, women aren't allowed to be Freemasons
>>17629657
Is that what you saw on youtube?
fucking neophytes.
>>17629657
Sure thing kid. I bet you're in the blue lodge still.
Actually I think the eastern star has women around.
If I was going to join one, it would be the 33.
>>17629626
Kek such bullshit your mom and grandma are liars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBSGUTiWOX4
No matter how many times, you see and understand everything they change it again.
And you end up back in a different reality, and just have schizophrenia.
>>17629601
They pretty much look exactly like your pic OP.
Source: I caught a glimpse of one of them when I took the last milk carton in a row out of a grocery store fridge. I only got a second to look because he shoved a new one in the rack right away
>>17629661
>>17629664
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=are+women+allowed+to+be+freemasons
Fourth link
From the official website
>Masonic Lodges maintain today a long-standing tradition of restricting membership in Freemasonry to men. This tradition is based on the historical all male membership of stonemasons guilds. During the Middle Ages, men traveled far from home and lived in lodges while constructing great cathedrals throughout Europe.
>>17629710
Although that used to be the general rule, and there are still lodges that only allow men, there are certainly lodges that admit both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_and_women
>>17629732
>outside of England and their American offshoots
DROPPED
>>17629601
yes. Mason exists, illuminati is fiction made from a french women in the 1900s that caught on. Masons is more of like a social club then anything. Its really not that interesting.
I knew a discordian, he was a high function autistic and a fedora tipper. Literally, every cliche personified. Not saying anything about them, just that guy. Also they are not really a cult or religion.
>>17629601
I do gardening for a few masons and live less than a mile from one of their Lodges. They appear normal desu. No horns. No tails. No bald old men sniggering whilst rubbing their hands together.
If it wasn't for the under-the-leg handshake followed by the 360 spin into a high-five you'd hardly tell the difference.
The masons are a fucking rotary club, stop trying this illuminati confirmed meme
I am a Discordian. What would you like to know exactly?
>>17629783
We are a religion, but not really a cult stereotype
>>17629732
Of course. But not real ones.
>>17629657
>>17629841
There are Masonic orders for women, but they aren't members of a Masonic Lodge, they're separate
>>17629650
Lol not really, just because it doesn't fit your little fantasy doesn't mean they are shills.. there are different sects of all types of societies just because some are doesn't make them all the same.
My grandpa is a mason. Hoping to get inducted in one day. I have his ring it's some pretty cool shit
I am a discordian.
But I never really joined any cult because I'm stranded in the middle of nowhere. Brazil.
It is also not something I tell others outside of an anonymous board to be honest.
And not something I tell others at all. Only if, one day, I meet another discordian.
There is nothing particularly evil or wicked about us.
>>17629862
Are people afraid of us there? I know some Christians find our goddess spoopy, but she's actually really cool.
My friends know but don't care. I live in south Texas
>>17629855
>Hoping
Shit in one hand, hope in the other and see which fills up first.
>>17629813
How much do you weigh at what height, and what's your social/love life like?
Several masons in my family, did work for my local grandmaster and he invited me to come by the lodge.
Regret turning him down, but at the time I was so busy I couldn't actually join and goto meetings/gatherings.
Good people, none of the bullshit you read about online. The reason for secrecy/initiations is to weed out those who are not truly trustworthy, as their entire point for existing is more of a social club of honest hardworking people.
>>17629870
160, 6 feet, I have a group of friends, but talk to people outside that group (I'm assuming you meant real life only). Our group has 8 people in it (that includes me). Sometimes we just get together to hang out. I talk to a couple more people now and then, but you know how it gets when people live far away..
My love life kinda crashed in high school, both girls (separate times) felt the same way I did about them, but one's parents scared her bad.. poor girl withdrew from social stuff for a while because of the indecision. I'm glad she's happy again. She's a good friend.
The second was moving away. We would've done so nicely together.. ah well, I try not to dwell on such things
>>17629865
Only If I openly start making rituals in the middle of someone else property that happens to look like a nice and calm valley/pasture, probably yes. The region I live here is like a crossover between a countryside of Colorado and a redneck town. Brazil is pretty similar to the US in this point.
I live in the north of São Paulo's state. People are christian conservatives here.
No one is afraid of me because I'm a pretty normal and nice fella, got tons of friends here and have a good reputation, both me and my family. The only thing I wear all the time is a medium sized pentagram necklace, for personal reasons for outisiders, and because I am a contrarian for insiders.
>>17629891
Ah, okay. I think the "chaos" thing throws them off.. people aren't always open minded, hehe.
I suppose I see what you mean.. you're used to being a contrarian. People might not think your way
>>17629898
I'm a huge believer in chaos and also our goddess. I owe her everything in my life, in the way that I was lost before here and now I was able to raise my son in decency, with a good life.
I once tried explaining our goddess to one of my friend. Not only did he found it spoopy as fuck, he also didnt get her concept at all. By the end of the conversation, I was only trying to convice him I dont do animal sacrifices because I am not a psycho.
>>17629669
You don't join the 33rd. It's an honourific given to A&AR members (for A&AR use), who are Masons which have joined an appendant body to Masonry.
>>17629907
Aw. Well, I'm glad she helped you and your son.
My friends have been able to understand how chaos works.. or at least, the basics. You know, how art comes from chaos.. our ideas, creativity, etc. That's how I explained it.
Have you read the Book of Eris?
I had a math teacher who was a mason. He was only there for a few weeks though, nothing permanent. I have to just put it out there, that I went to a very shady school.
Anyway this guy had one of those rings and when someone questioned him on it an accused him of being in the illuminati (we were all 14 btw), he just laughed it off. I actually can't remember what happened much after lol.
From what I remember was pretty chill, a little nervous when someone mentioned freemasonry though. I don't think he was a very high ranking one though.
>>17629928
(Same poster)
The Book Of Eris is a commentary on Discordianism. It explains some parts about chaos.. I think it holds some examples of creative chaos and how it's different than destructive.
I'm in a masonic frat. It's boring, Masonry is just all about the bible.
>>17629942
>a masonic frat
Huh?
>>17629790
Kek
>Illuminati
This would require time traveling capabilities.
>Mason
Yes. Seemed like a normal person.
>Discordian
Underlying beliefs seem similar to Taoism, so I'd expect to have a bit in common with them and would be happy to meet any Discordians in the Boston area.
>>17629969
It'd be cool to see another Discordian in real life.. but I may be the only one around here
>>17629710
>freemasons are secret
>uses google to try to figure out the secret
not so smart are we?
>>17630008
>believing they're really secret
You and your ilk are pathetic, there's nothing evil nor are there any conspiracies founded in anything, get back on your meds kid
>>17630008
>freemasons are secret
No we aren't.
>>17629928
>>17629941
No I didnt. But thanks, I will look into it.
Creativity wise its a bless, yes. Helps me alot in my work.
I wish I could find more good material for it. I practice it for years, but its always good to find something new.
One of these days I was reading oven ready chaos at a trip. Good read.
>>17630047
Oh yeah? Oven ready chaos? What's that about? Sounds like a Discordian cook book for tricksters
>>17630056
Its a booklet.
It sure as fuck sounds like, I thought the exact same thing. Turns out it was an overview of the story of chaos magic in the US. A brief introduction to Discordia, a ritual for Eris and sigils. Bretty good stuff. I was in fact about to look the writer on google.
Good for starters I assume. It is also good for people that dont know how to deal with it. He also recommends good books regarding discordia.
>>17630098
Ooh, that sounds good. when I'm at my pc I'm definitely looking into that. thanks, friend.
>>17630000
if you've met another person you've met a discordian
>>17630011
>>17630011
>nothing evil
>nothing secret
>back on your mods
cabbage
>>17630234
>mods
Broccoli
>>17630231
hehehe
>>17630238
is that your witty way of replying
when you don't understand the secret order of discord?
==POEE==
>>17630279
at least it's not grayface
>>17630390
true
>>17630231
I passed a freemason on the freeway once, old guy, he let me in his lane during rush hour....nice guy.
>>17630562
lold
>>17629813
Are you an Erisian Discordian or an Eristic Discordian or neither?
>>17629769
I guess the truth isn't interesting enough.
>>17630736
I see many of her aspects. Not just chaos.. I see her as Eris, Morrighan, Freyja, and Isis.
I just do my best to enjoy life. I have as much fun as I can.. I can even laugh when there's nothing to laugh at.
I recognize the chaos in the universe.
If you've got any questions about it I'll be glad to answer
>>17629601
>>discordian
Since when are Discordians a spoopy secret society?
>>17632460
People made stuff up about us or something, lol. They don't know how to do research on it so they call us a secret
>>17632460
since forever
POEE
is one manifestation of
THE DISCORDIAN SOCIETY
about which
you will learn more
and understand
less
We
are a tribe
of philosophers, theologians,
magicians, scientists,
artists, clowns,
and similar maniacs
who are intrigued
with
ERIS
GODDESS OF CONFUSION
and with
Her
Doings
paratheoanametamystikhood of eris 'esoteric'
>>17632536
you sure are dogmatic for someone that calls themselves a discordian.
>>17633224
Well, I was just saying that it isn't exactly a secret.
all these people who've heard about discordianism this decade are making me sick but i guess that's the point :\
>>17633442
why's that, friend?
>>17629651
Literally schizophrenia
>>17630012
Btfo prove you are one faggot
>>17633581
Okay.
>>17633223
>23
underated post
>>17633651
>not secret
>censors self
>>17633651
What do you do there?
>>17633672
Freemasonry isn't secret. Doesn't mean i want my personal details on 4chan.
>>17633676
Freemason stuff. Mostly meetings where we discuss philosophy and science, as well as content from the rituals. Trying to get a curriculum going for the Seven Liberal Arts and Sciences, but not sure how to involve everyone.
>>17633692
>Freemason stuff.
typical vague rhetoric
they do luciferian stuff assuming higher than level 3, lots of them are noobs (aka neophytes) and can't beat the game.
they suck at games.
>>17633701
>typical vague rhetoric
Yea, that too.
>they do luciferian stuff
Kinda? But probably not the way you're thinking.
>level 3
Lel, it's not an RPG.
>>17633707
>Kinda? But probably not the way you're thinking.
what way am i thinking?
am i even thinking?
i didn't think i was
>>17629626
Your mother and grandmammy were not masons since women are not admitted.
At best they were members of eastern star which is an organization that admits women and is based in Israel.
No one outside eastern star considers them actual masons.
>>17633666
true.
I hope this post ends in 5
>>17633730
'>>17633730
twas not meant to be
But maybe..
>>17633735
stolen
>>17629601
My uncle is a mason but is very low key about it. Don't know how involved he really is and he doesn't talk about it much. From what I know his connection is business related. Golden Dawn probably is a lot more exciting in terms of membership as far as secretive shit.
>>17633738
It is all yours, friend.
Here's another. I also posted one further up when I wrote out that huge post that needed another post for continuation
>>17629601
First of all, I have my suspicions about a few but remain unsure.
Second of all, anybody claiming to be anything should rank high on the BS meter
Everyone is secretly jewish crisis actors that work for satan
>>17633747
>Here's another. I also posted one further up
i meant the 5 get
>>17633724
>Eastern Star
>based in Israel
Whut.
And even OES members don't consider themselves Masons. They consider themselves OES members.
>>17629650
You probably could go join the masons right now if there's a lodge near you, it's not some secret conspiracy. You just have to meet some basic requirements like being male, believing in a supreme being and supplying for yourself
There's a selection process which you'll most likely pass and after that the lodge votes whether they'll let you in or not. It's basically just a fancy men-only private club. My grandfather was to sum it up an almost constantly drunk low-ranking navy officer (he mostly quit drinking by the time I met him. I still miss him) and he was a Mason.
I had a teacher in high school who was a mason, he was super cool
>>17633826
Oh, but it's usually great for networking in the same way being an orthodox jew or a mormon is, except you don't have to change your religion. That's about as slimy as it gets.
>>17629601
>discordian member
You haven't been here long.
>>17633826
>You probably could go join the masons right now if there's a lodge near you
i could and i live inbetween two, but i also think information should be free so joining a cult full of secrets isn't a good idea for me fnord
>>17633838
i've been here before /x/ was the photography board.
>>17633839
They do teach you signs and such to identify yourself as a mason, but the most cult-y it gets otherwise is some polite conversation and lectures on philosophy
If you dabble in occultism like a lot of people here it's nothing to be scared about really. It should only unnerve turbonormies who get sweaty at any mention of philosophy
>>17633846
I haven't been active in this board for a while, did it stop being the chaos magic board?
>>17633881
yeah it did
now its full of role players and mods will delete threads any time a new creepypasta shows up
because 'trolling'
god.. its supposed to be the creepypasta board for fucks sake
>>17633881
Somewhat. It never truly goes away, but it's lost a lot of what made it worth talking about.
>>17629626
>my Mother and Grandmother were in the masons
lel
>>17633975
i even got their documentation when my mother passed away.
i didn't think women could join but i have proof
>>17633997
Please post it then. I'm guessing OES, WSJ, or perhaps one of the fake groups like HFAF or LDH.
>>17633997
It was a charlatan group bro. They were probably (literally) getting fucked.
>>17629601
You are the Illuminati moron
>>17629865
I live in Houston. Increasingly becoming more interested in this stuff.
illuminati= bored people who recently got bored reading about secret societies and want to actually do something for a change
discordians=like the first of the blatantly ironic religions, nothing really secret, unless you think there's some big secret to trolling
freemasons=most of them don't know all that much about masonry aside from laying a proper brick and mortar wall, if that.
the idea that there are a bunch of super powerful, super rich and super smart people banning together over blood shit and semen filled orgies and talk about the future of existence. Is pretty much like that but a lot more incompetent because they are so far removed from the "human" factor that a cosmic joke and a tragedy at the same time.
the rituals, the uniforms, and all the pomp and circumstance, and rumors are all just pr to make them look legit.
the only thing that is special in all of creation is what you make up yourself.
>>17633780
ah. Well, there are plenty of 5s. Heh
>>17634867
Ah. In south Texas some people don't care.. some might. then again, I can't really say my friends would have the same opinions as the general public, so who knows. The majority are extremely Christian though
Grandpa was a mason too. Literally nothing to it. Y'all need to stop with these gay conspiracy theories and focus on real paranormal stuff.
>>17634958
Houston here too. Have yet to meet anyone who is interested in these matters as I am, besides /x/itzens.
>>17635014
Yeah, I don't know too many occultists here. I guess it's because in this place Christianity as the only religjonis heavily encouraged. it's a big part of Mexican culture, and that's spread to this side of the border.
>>17634998
Nothing wrong with seeking a little knowledge .. hehehe
I know a mason, and he's basically your average american man. so nothing really to creepy about him
>>17635019
>Nothing wrong with seeking a little knowledge .. hehehe
but Illuminatis, Freemasons and Reptoids are the Pokemon of the paranormal world
>>17635047
Do not identify with any of those. The knowledge is there for those whom wish to seek.
>>17629601
>illuminati
historical illuminati movement was just as boring and trite as masons
>mason
boring
>discordian
fedora
>>17635047
Pokemon? What do you mean?
>>17635068
meaning knowledge of them is make-believe autism shit for anybody over the age of 14
>>17635055
why'd you put Discordian as fedora?
maybe some of us, but our beliefs differ.. that's why I'm wondering if you have other reasoning for it..
or did you not know that a lot of us see Eris as a goddess?
>>17635074
ah, I see.. They are real things though. not sure what you're getting at here
>>17635075
naah, I just meant there's nothing mysterious about it, like getting to know a discordian a big deal
>>17635078
>Illuminati
were a cool hangout club for cool kids, dissolved in 1787
>Freemasons
Charitable organization about as scary and powerful as Habitat for Humanity
>Reptoids
don't exist
>>17635085
ah, true. I think it'd be cool to meet another one, but you're right, anyone on the internet can download a pdf of the Principia Discordia within seconds (or minutes or days depending on your network connection). It's kinda like what happened with Atlantis. It was an advanced civilization, but now there are rumors about it being filled with aliens or mermaids because people tend to do that kinda thing, haha
>>17635088
Meh, illuminati works in the shadows, problem is the government made up rumors about them being bad to make us think they're the bad guys..
And yeah, you're right about the freemasons
>>17629891
kek.
Fucking people turn 'lel chaos did everything' into a cult now are what?
I tried to read the wiki article, but it basically was just waifu-ifying a greek goddess.
>>17635099
Do you have an evidence they exist?
>>17635122
Because Eris is best girl
>>17635132
I'd be careful with trusting just anything.. but there are references to it in the Principia Discordia
>>17635140
Kek pls. I mean, I know about Eris, and I believe in that everything is just a culmination of chaos, but: If you believe in chaos why should you believe in some waifu goddess character?
And no, I don't mean occult chaos.
I mean the utter chaos that is life and pretty much everything, scientifically.
>>17635144
I knew what you meant, friend.
Eris doesn't ask to be worshipped. some Discordians don't even worship her. But she is the mother of chaos.. through chaos we have our creativity, art, self expression, free will..
I suppose it's nice to honor her for it. Some of us recognize her other aspects as well, (she's known as Morrighan, Freyja, Eris, and Isis) and honor that part of her as well.
But you don't have to
>>17635151
(cont.) If you mean "why believe in her as a goddess" it's because some of us just see her as a goddess, not just a personification of chaos
>>17635151
As I said, I didn't get into it too much. I know Eris as the 'traditional' greek minor goddess, and I read the wikipedia part on it.
Sounds to me like it was just started by 2 neckbeards that gave themselves edgy names while ERPing though.
>>17635157
That's cause the Greeks weren't as fun as us.. she was minor to them. And yeah, they made up cool (or funny) names.. that was the point, after all
>>17635157
Remember when I said that she's known as different things? Like in celtic culture she's known as Morrighan. Well, different gods are honored differently by different cultures.. like how the Egyptians worshipped Ra seemed different than how the Greeks saw him.. to them he was known as Apollo.
We are simply a culture that honors her more.
>>17629883
>6'1
>160
The only spooky thing here is your skeleton ass.
>>17629601
I'm a discordian pope. So are you.
>>17635085
>he doesn't know anything
>>17629608
This grandfather and father
>>17629601
I think one of those conspirators created the Bible App for the PC. I mean, c'mon! WTF???
>>17635743
you're been excommunicated
resurrection
My barber, who rented out the apartment above his shop for me on the cheap is a mason, knew him for years before I found out, normal guy, very popular.
My uncle's a Mason.
He grows his own weed, 'stills his own moonshine and has battled cancer three seperate times.
He's a redneck and no more-so unusual than anybody else who lives in the south
