She's back /x/, and she's even more batshit crazy that she was back in 2011.
Talking shit about wanting to kill somebody, while simultaneously saying she loves and wants to marry the same person.
Lets discuss.
fb.com/carinhabsburglothringen.waldegravekell
holy fuck i think this is her for real. look at all the pics she has posted with 600 comments placed only by herself.
i've missed you Karin.
>>17628563
This shit is fucked up, how can someone be so incomprehensible like wtf
>>17628563
that link doesn't seem to link to Carin
>>17628606
Yeah it's her, definitely. I checked some of her comments
sad
>>17628563
nice find anon
and if you guys check some of her photos she is actually not speaking random stuff all the time like the photo of her old default pic
she is talking about her old default pic
cant believe more people arent on it this is some weird shit
things to keep in mind about her
she really wants to kill a guy named paul attemann
posts photos of people from old times regularly
calls pictures of herself as "self"
also has issues with a guy named peeter leppik(also posted a picture of his mom),then continues talking about that his mother from is estonia(if you actually search for that person you can see in his facebook he is from estonia.
now she wants to kill kate middleton
"Cate middleton.
We don't want her..alive.."
>>17628563
who is she?
>>17628563
Should I message her?
>>17629098
do it
>>17629104
What should I say?
>>17629109
Okay
>>17629107
Be direct and ask for nudes.
>>17629117
kek
Whatever conspiracy she's selling here, im buying
The two friends she has on there seem like normal accounts... is this shit not appearing on their newsfeed?? maybe >>17629098 should message the friends to ask if they know her irl, if they do they might be able to tell us what the fuck is wrong with her
She has a slideshare account, some of the essays/presentations are actually semi-coherent (still insane obviously, but there like a narrative/linear quality to them)
http://www.slideshare.net/KarinBrittKeighleyLe?utm_campaign=profiletracking&utm_medium=sssite&utm_source=ssslideview
>>17629187
>what the fuck is wrong with her
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that she has probably never been dicked.
>>17629205
Well if you wanna be the one to try sticking your dick in that, its on you...
It is called schizophrenia.
>>17628563
The photo comments from her on this account seem different to the original account. Batshit as her original stuff was, she still took quite a bit of care in regards to grammar and so on. This new stuff is sloppy and retarded. Doesn't seem to be the same person. Though I suppose it could be her and she's now completely doubly triply insane.
>>17629223
I would.
>>17629265
Its a hell of a lot of effort for someone to be faking it - they are probably as insane as her if they are
In other new, kate middleton confirmed for Moomin
What is weird is that people started mentioning her more often these days, and suddenly she starts her rant again.
>>17629292
Yeah, it's true. I was looking at the photos; it's definitely her. Maybe she's constantly drunk nowadays to go with being schizo. Funny thing is, she always seems kind of happy and sort of present in her photos, the original account and this, yet she's clearly batshit and tormented in her posts and comments.
>>17628563
I messaged her. Not quite sure what to say.
>>17629379
be safe, delilah
>>17629399
Lol idk what she'd be able to do to Me since she doesn't know me.
There's a woman much like this has been posting the craziest schizo shit on my city's Topix forum for years now. One example (of hundreds):
>I witnessed Travis having sex with his dog. I witnessed the dog presenting sexually to Travis.
(And listen here you judgemental jerks. Consentual sex between grown-ups is none of your business. I mention it only to demonstrate what limits this guy has for himself...not much for limits. If that man, and his dog love each other that way it's whatever. If you have to be outraged, be outraged at the man who was trying to rape Travis's dog because he believed that Travis had my soul trapped in the dog's body.)
I go to school with a girl who is from the habsburg lothringen family. They even live in the family castle in austria. I doubt they are related.
>>17628563
>>17629442
In one of her comments I saw she was saying something about the family being illegitimate.
>>17629455
It is the family which shaped european history. Just look it up.
The yandere queen
>>17629447
thats better
hopefully she finally makes contact with someone
another thing we can do is to reach out to her two friends in her facebook as someone already mentioned
>>17629274
Second
Crazies of Youtube thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR-IdlAKrwc
"All of Canada has been bukkaked. I cannot describe to you the smell."
--Brent Spiner
>>17629379
hey delilah, so are you, uh, serious with anyone right now
>>17629469
I don't doubt it, I was just telling you what she said.
>>17629483
Not sure if I'm down for that lol seems a little too stalkerish. I already messaged her, someone else message the friends.
maybe paul attemann is her ex husband and cate middleton is his mistress
>>17628563
Holy shit, I'm hyped. Old school /x/ as fuck.
>>17628563
how you find her?
>>17629187
I looked them up but they look like they speak a different language, and one of them. Hasn't been on it since 2014
>>17629663
If her account had any legitament friends at one point it will be found through those people and their friends list.
Best bet would be to look at their friends and find mutual who share a common location or anything with her.
>>17629653
also would like to know.
Messaged one of her friends, the older lady, to see if she responds or sees my message.
>>17629447
hey there delilah
something something new york cityyyy
youre a thousand miles away
and the stars(?) look very pretty
pls post feet qt patootie
>>17629738
;P Here ya go Big Poppa.
>>17629738
Lmao I friend requested her, let's see if she accepts
>>17629414
Dont underestimate the powers of cyber stalking and the info someone can dig from the web if they really want to
>>17629379
A hot girl on /x/? Wait... WHAT
>>17630344
"hot"
Yeah she said something about stalking earlier too. I still haven't gotten a message back.
>>17629414
She doesn't need to know you. She'll make some shit up. Then one morning she'll be serving you breakfast in bed with your cat in a snoopy waffle maker.
>>17630512
It'll be fine. She seems harmless.
>>17629379
Nice subtle attention whoring, babe.
I am so happy this women is back.
Last time I saw a thread on her was some anon saying he was going to go try and contact her in person, but his thread was deleted and I never saw a thread detailing any aftermath.
I am so glad shes back,
Can someone fill me in with the back story here?
Not sure if we found this all those eyars ago, but Im 95% sure this is her wordpress.
https://thewaldegravefiles.wordpress.com/tag/karin-britt-keighley/page/10/
Looks abandoned now. What an interesting woman. Also, since last time she seems to be posting more risque picture of herself. Doesnt apepar she lives in canada anymore either.
This schizophrenia is intense
Is this what happens when you smoked too much of the weed?
>>17628734
if i remember right Peeter Leppik is her Ex husband. On her old profile she talked about a misscarriage that drove him away from her.
YAS IVE WAITED SO LONG FOR HER TO COME BACK
>>17631207
should he be notified? sounds like she needs to be institutionalized again.
>>17629379
LOOK AT ME IM A GIRL IM A GIRL
youre empty
What are hrih and dfatd? Any clues? Also, whats the story behind her
>>17631474
"Girl"
>>17631463
for teh lulz sure
also her d.o.b seems to be 13 nov 1970
>>17629379
>i essaged her
>im a girl btw
the real paranormal activity on this board seems to be when a female posts
thread derailed
>>17629223
fuck the mental illness out of her
i'm pretty sure that would work
>>17631498
What does that have to do with anything. I have not once said anything about being a girl. It's these sexist douche bags asking me for feet pics. It's not my fault you Virgins can't handle a girl actually being on /x.
>>17631502
jej
>>17631585
shut up you fucking slob. we do not do gender here
Oh shit i remembrr this from /b/ back in the day
>>17629447
if thats your real account that youre posting on here, youre retarded.
>>17631520
There is a guy from lolcow that already does that, pretty gross if you ask me.
Maybe shes inventing a new kind of /fit/ness workout by typing shit tons and uploading shit tons of random pictures on facebook
>>17631658
Yup that's what it is
Judging by the few threads that have popped up in recent weeks on Karen, I am going to guess that the same person created this one, and the others. I am also going to assume that whoever created this thread, and the others is also running "Karens" Facebook page. I am assuming this because it is well known that she is dead and has been dead since 2012. Who ever is running that fb page is more mentally disturbed than Karen ever was.
Have fun with your thread you piece of shit.
>>17631644
is not a real account, you fucking retard.
>>17631781
dead since 2012? where did you get that?
she looks significantly older in her recent pictures in which she is saying they are from 2015
>>17631781
but the new picture of her?
>>17631585
You couldve blocked out your name and pic, dipshit. Any male would've done it.
Where are you getting she died?
>>17629494
what the fuck
>Toronto, ON
Oh boy.
That's where I live.
>>17628563
>estonian
What is this?
>>17630344
>>17630385
"girl"
>>17631809
Yes it is.
Is there any info, archive, on this woman/page? This is clearly a nutjob, but I'm doubting the woman on the pictures is the one updating the account. She looks too capable of posing, in real life, to be ranting a 900+ comments historical hurricane together.
Ask her for a date.
>>17628563
I used to have her on my facebook friends when the first thread was made about here on /x/. I removed her after trying to talk to her and she kept saying weird things to me.
Scared me at the time.
>have no proof though
>>17629226
It's definitely schizo, but it's more than that. There's some terrible personality disorder as well, seems like borderline personality disorder with how she treats people she's fixated on.
>>17631843
Why does it matter if it's not a real account. Calm down. Look up "random girl" on Google and I'm sure you'll find the profile picture.
>>17631843
>BE ANGRY AT WOMEN NOT HIDE HER FACE ME HORNY NOW MIST YELL WOMEN
chill out. I've seen tons of dudes forget to take out their pic/name or intentionally not do it because it doesn't fucking matter?. her being female has nothing to do with attention seeking, other than it being a sexist stereotype.
>>17629738
You're that guy asking if the Castmember as a big booty aren't you?
>harassing a mentally ill old woman
>and her facebook friends
I get that reading her posts is 2spooky, but this is borderline stalking.
Maybe it's a prototype AI program for facebook similar to twitters "Tay"
>>17629379
We would've taken your word for it. Was the screenshot including your name and picture really necessary? Whores belong on /soc/.
I wonder if the friends she has on Facebook are actually real people or just fake profiles. It'd be really fucking interesting to get a somewhat inside opinion on her from them...
>>17633239
Those two friends of Carin doesnt seem to speak english? Were they?
>>17633236
>>17631498
>>17631474
>>17630931
holy shit you guys are retarded lmfao
>>17633272
>>17631986
Lol ignorant retard.
It's "just" paranoid schizophrenia like most conspiracy nuts.
I hate what she did with her hair
>>17632456
Bullfuckingshit, the screenshot was unnecessary and retarded, who cares what was messaged to her? If she didn't reply it's totally irrelevant.
>>17633441
That is a smile of a person who doesn't quite understand happiness
Hair isn't too bad though
>>17633198
Little to no chance of that.
Anyone find it odd that she keeps sharing the same images over and over?
>>17629612
Googled Paul Atteman - came up with his FB profile: https www facebook com/paul.attemann/. It may not be the same guy as there are no pictures of just him, but links on his page reference Estonia - which is mentioned regularly in Karin's rants. Also of note - he has "liked" the FB page for the US Embassy in Tallinn, Estonia. So that may be the connection between them, idk.
>>17633770
Further evidence??
>>17631180
It's not her's specifically - it was created around 2011 to archive her posts
>>17631484
>hrih
seems to be a "seed syllable" found in Buddhist(?) mantra(s)
>source: www visiblemantra org/hrih.html
>>17633359
You traded my soul for pogs?
Reading through her comments it seems that she is some kind of blood purist. She seems to have some contempt for people of other ethnicities - particularly ones who have married or otherwise associated with her bloodline.
>>17633236
Excuse me for being interested in the thread. Had I known you guys would get so butt hurt about it I would have blocked the name and pic. It's a dummy account anyway. Why would I message a crazy lady on my own personal account.
>>17633630
No one woulda taken her word on it if she didn't provide proof. Y'all always bitch about proof, someone proves they did something, and you guys go ballistic because it happens to be a girl.
>>17633942
>Y'all always bitch about proof
Which board do you live on? 99% of anyone with anything worthwhile to say says that proof is never what you want it to be.
What the fuck..She posted this.
(1/2) Ok so from reading through most of the comments on her images we can infer that she believes that her past lovers (Peeter Leppik, Paul Attemann, and possibly someone named Dulles Von Kantzow although I couldn't find anyone with this name) are somehow "obstructing her" and threatening her with shit like rape. Perhaps one or all of these men did assault her and she is traumatic, idk. She also has a lot of hatred for past co-workers and scholars from U of Toronto (Wesley Wark and Francine McKenzie for example - these names can be googled btw) and it seems she may believe there is some kind of overlap between these two groups in that they both are harrassing her. Whether this is true or not, idk. But it's what she believes. Her posts truly are odd, they seem to go in and out of lucidness. But she also changes subjects erratically, indicating obvious mental illness. Some characteristics of this seem to be body dysmorphia, obsession and dissociation. In the picture of herself she refers to herself as "self", which indicates a recognition of who she is but it's almost like she doesn't believe the woman in the pictures is really her or something. She obviously is obsessed with her ancestry - as if she feels the need to prove she is part of some royal bloodline. There are many photo collages of people from these royal bloodlines juxtaposed with pictures of herself as if to prove some kind of resemblance (in one pic idr which, she pretty much confirms this). As for dysmorphia, on the pics of herself (mainly her legs) she goes back and forth on her opinions of her body; in one comment on a photo of her legs instructing someone (perhaps herself, or Attemann) to "tell them they're ugly". In the next comment she refers to herself as fat - which she clearly isn't. Also not the pictures of dolls and doll legs - perhaps this the ideal she wants to live up to, or possibly what Leppik and Attemann want (in her mind).
>>17634007
(2/2) Obviously I'm missing a lot here. These are just some of the thoughts I've had so far. I have yet to read through the actual text posts on her FB and her slideshare, but I probably will. At the end of the day though, it seems that this woman is just severely mentally ill and should probably be left alone. She doesn't seem to be violent or hurting anybody - yet. Honestly, idk why this case has fascinated me so much for the past 5 years. I kept coming back to it time and again but there was little evidence to go on. I just hope that this will all lead to Carin (Karin? another name change...) the help she needs.
She is like Western chipchan
Word salad. Google it. This isn't paranormal in the least.
Any anons here living in Canada who can spot her house or something? Hehe, so we could u know.. "See her"?
>>17634026
This is what people thought 5 years ago too, but it doesn't seems like that to me. Yes, a lot of what she says is incoherent - in part because we don't possess the same knowledge that she does - but a lot of it is coherent too. She's trying to build a narrative - for herself or the public, who knows. Also, half the shit on this board doesn't fall into the paranormal category so that point is kind of moot.
>>17634033
It's clear that she's got a psychological issue going on. I have no doubt she wants information out there, that to her, may make sense.
I don't think any of it will ever make sense to a sane person though.
>>17629379
>Martinez
BUILD WALL
>>17633630
I kno u baitin, but if anon did not post image, I wouldnt take it seriously.
Like now I just messaged her if she got dicked lately or is she really just deranged. I wont post pic tho.
Weird.
Lol the newfags here who dont know /x/ is populated mostly by girls.
Get surprised that random anon is a goth girl.
>>17633908
So she's not totally insane after all.
>>17633926
You are so fucking stupid. Hopefully everyone believes you and no one is bored enough to pull on that loose thread you left for everyone to fawn over, you narcissist.
>>17634135
Do it.
>>17633727
Her whole page is odd.
I'm curious about who takes the pictures of her in public. I'm thinking a camera propped up on something but it seems strange with the angle, also you can't see the camera in the photos with her in a mirror.
>>17634270
Some of the pictures you could see that they were taken with her laptop, like shes put it on a counter somewhere (i think there were some in a hotel lobby and a public bathroom) and you can see the laptop reflected in stuff
>>17634020
Came here to say this.
It would be great if they could meet and... I don't know give eachother back rubs or something
>>17629447
Hey Deliah how's Cali? Still doing hair?
>>17628563
Been lurking on her page, the most schizo-seeming self-comments I found
>Put away England..
> Tell them to kill themselves.
Release my assets...quit sitting on him..also.
>Must get rid of it..the thinking..their human types.turned ours..mis married ours
>It's the violent sperm bank.
>And quit altering my photos..
>>17632456
>Whiteknight
It's a fake profile/pic you dense fucking imbeciles
the smile juxtaposed with the caption is 3 spoopy
>>17634466
Prince William's wife? She seems to replace the letter k with c.
"her upper body is that of a man."
SAVAGE.
she really doesn't like kate middleton.
apparently paul attenman and coldplay tried to kill her.
is nobody else alarmed she's listed as a widow??? or has that already been covered
i think paul atteman mighta been an internet troll of some sort that may have seduced her and then ignored her.
she mentions him having to leave the woman he's married to or she will "convict" him.
>>17634486
she also has 3 grandfathers.
i dont think any of it is correct.
what if she didn't start out all looney and she actually went through some hardcore shit
>>17631484
HRIH means 'his royal and Imperial Highness' which makes sense given the rants about royal lineage and illegitimacy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_and_Royal_Highness
>>17634475
Kate Middleton has married in to royalty, and thus gets all the benefits of that lifestyle. Karin/ Katherine (or whatever her real name is) is obviously jealous of this as she is a direct blood descendant of the Hapsburg lineage, but gets none of the benefits because she is descended from an illegitimate birth.
Perhaps the discovery of her illegitimate royal lineage has driven her crazy? The differences in lifestyle etc would be unfathomable. People finding out that they're adopted has an emotional toll on them. Karin's situation would be even more devastating.
She uses the letter c and k interchangeably too. I believe the letter k is dominant in the German lanuage. It is used in place of 'c's in the original German spelling of German loan words that we use in English. What this means I'm not sure.
>>17634506
this is true of most loons.
>>17632563
Kek'd that guy was seriously starting to annoy me when I read that thread. "I never worked the pirates anon"
>>17629122
I kinda like this psycho bitch?
>>17633441
SHE'S SO PRETTY AND THAT DOG IS SUCH A QT
I would marry that face any day. At least she'd be easy to ignore amirite
>>17634745
Exactly. It was awkard.
>>17634760
but not nearly as much as you like sucking dick
>>17634373
Lol 1/2 not bad.
>>17628714
Who took these photos?? Are they her?
>>17635356
I know you. Your from La Mierda Cali.
>>17635589
Yes they are her.
>>17628563
> Von Berg Hapsburg
> Hapsburg
Confirmed inbred. Mystery solved folks.
>>17629738
> deliah wil u plz otism my penor??
>>17629494
>Brent Spiner
Please tell me I'm not the only person who knows who this is
>>17628563
Greatest Thomas Pynchon thought project ever.
>>17628563
So is this girl actually a Habsburg? The inbreeding might explain some of this.
>>17631180
>posting more risque picture of herself
Can you provide some evidence of this? For...research purposes...
>>17631199
This is what happens when you smoke too much of the weed as an infant.
>>17631843
Stfu and stop giving virgins a bad name you tard-ass mongoloid
>>17629315
That's what happens as schizophrenia advances, the positive and negative symptoms (i.e. what's added to and what's taken away from your personality) intensify, she seems to have both gotten more incoherent and disturbed and has developed a flatter affect, making her both more and less present than a normal person.
>>17628563
This is old school shit love it
>>17636512
I know right, only an individual with subpar intellect would dare to make such remarks of an innocent lady.
Well this is a nice coincidence. I'm finding another page on Facebook with incoherent gibberish in a similar fashion to this.
Some comments aren't sure if this is a legit insane man or an elaborate bot, but it's strange all the same.
Scott Peterson also happens to be an American currently on death row for murdering his wife and unborn child back in 2005. Page for him here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson
I'm also not sure how to properly link to his FB page. [spoiler]This is my first time on /x/, so I'm not sure if I need to lurk more.[/spoiler]
>>17636554
>spoilers
Yeah, I need to lurk more.
>>17636554
Just take any . Out of the URL and only post after the /
I'm interested.
>>17636565
profile php?id=100007609112409
Hopefully this works.
>>17636542
oh no, he memed me! I am slain! I must now leave 4chan forever and be banished to the depths of leddit!
3/10 you got me to reply.
>>17629437
got any more? maybe a link?
I must know more about this soul being trapped in the body of a dog who's having sex with people.
>>17634007
thanks for the intel, James Bond Anon
>>17629379
BUILD WALL
>>17636470
Look at this 12 year old, he must think he's so mature for his age.
>>17629494
Buckle up, Buckaroos. Shits gonna get crazy.
Gail is fucking great, she believes that Brent Spiner is in love with her, and that she has an intergalactic starship called The Church of Gail. Her crew consists of Keanu Reeves, Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Il, and Matthew McConaughey.
She believes that the world is controlled by the Jesuits, and that the leader of the Jesuits is Zack Knight. Zack also has powers, including being able to make women pregnant just by looking at them. She believes that they have Nukakke, nukes that spread Jesuit semen in huge torrential waves.
She talks to Jesus on Skype. She's a hilarious nutcase.
I think I found paul
newfag here. who is she bros? from fb profile looks like she is a regular schizo, what is so special about her?
>>17629447
did she respond?
http://unionstudioarch.com/people/paul/
>>17638470
no idea but she definitely seems souless to me
I thought she died?
>>17629379
BUILD
>>17629379
Hey fellow channers, I did the spoopy deed
>I'm a grill btw
>>17629447
>she keeps her number on facebook
>>17638773
stop derailing the fucking thread with this i want to know what she said
Hey I'm virgin too!
>>17634129
>secretaries
oh, I geeeet it.
very smart
>>17638740
No unfortunately not.
>>17628563
If I'm not mistaken, this woman suffers from logorrhea, or more specifically, graphorrhea. She's probably either brain damaged, schizophrenic or both.
>>17628563
Hi. Could it be the case that this woman is not in fact insane and is sitting on what may be the biggest conspiracy ever conceived? And isn't it possible the subtle misspellings are a clue to the presence of coding in her posts? Pic is from her photos
>>17639731
LMAOOOOO
I just want nudes or something close of her or something
>>17639751
don't we all
I think you have to friend her to access nude pics
>>17634497
I have 3 grandfathers, and three grandmothers. Sometimes people divorce and remarry anon. And grandkids tend to see them all as just grandparents.
>>17639501
Care to enlighten us
>>17628563
Social media might be the single worst thing to happen to schizophrenics, holy shit
>>17634007
>>17634019
This sounds like it's leading to the start of some type of horror/suspense movie:
One Anon's obsession to understand a mentally ill woman and her deranged rantings leads him to investigate all aspects of her life and mind...
> Plot twist
Are they really deranged rantings though?
Can Anon uncover the truth before he loses his mind?
>>17634444
That's not concerning at all......
Also
> Quads
>>17628714
I remember an anon posting her linked in or photobucket. This isn't anything new anon.
>>17634027
We went to her house last time
>>17640216
Secretaries are enemies in OFF after you "purify" a zone. By purifying, I mean kill all life and colors in it.
>>17638278
>gail is still successfully trolling /x/
...then again this is the board that spawned an /mlp/ tulpa story and has a daily flat earth and div thread so I guess that speaks for itself.
Poor /x/.
>>17634143
>>17629098
>>17629104
>>17640914
MKUltra had a lot of unfortunate victims. Poor woman.
>>17640509
'It is madness, but it is beautiful' not unlike the Charge of the Light Brigade for fans of military history
>>17634544
What is this image?
I'm from Estonia, and this here is really spoopy. We have like 1.3 million people here and everybody know everybody.
So I think I found Peeter on LinkedIn, but I don't have an account so I can't see the full profile.
her both FB friends are also from estonia
in fact, if you look at all 3 of them, they have very similar facial structures. As if they were some sort of siblings.
What if these texts are actually some sort of cyphers?
>>17641729
One of her FB friends, Elle, has a top Estonian politician on her friendslist, but that's probably a coincidence.
>>17641320
How appropriate
"Tis not to wonder why.
But to do and die"
>>17628563
Has anyone noticed that she is currently posting a massive bibliography of something... She is up to the letter 'N' right now...
I tell a lie - she has reached the letter 'Y' and is now giving a more detailed synopsis of selected choice entries... I was afraid something badass was gonna happen when she reached the end...
>>17628563
I hate to break it to you anons, but this kind of compulsive writing is unique to a certain type of schizophrenia.
You're just witnessing her writing out all her delusions on a public forum.
Poor woman.
Hah...no one has likened her to a skinwalker, yet?
Come on /x/... you're getting slow in your twilight years. How have you not seen it yet.
>>17642953
Some of her ramblings are quite impressive, I'm inclined to agree with this anon >>17642982
My thought was the same, the deluded ramblings of a madwoman, this day and age we don't even have to go to an asylum, not when she has access to technology
>>17642982
yep, classic non-sense word salad typical of schitzo's
It's almost fascinating with her ramblings, especially since she's active now, you feel sorry for her but at the same time can't stop reading every new comment..
This is the picture that these >>17644842 comments are from.
I wonder if this Paul guy knows about her weird obsession
