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what are the most boring overused things in horror nowadays?
>>17577373
Children acting weird
Everything.
Horror is dead.
jump scares
stupid noises and reversed sound effects and dumb crap like that done in post-production
>>17577402
Slenderman killed horror
>>17577401
/thread
>>17577373
off key violin
>>17577373
Horror is the only genre with the specific intent of invoking a specific emotion and in the decades it has been in mainstream culture, it is only natural many of the ways to invoke fear have been fully explored. It's understandable and clear many horror elements are overused- some so much that they're now funny. Jump scares, I think, are the worst right now, though. There's nothing inherently wrong with jump scares, but when the entire general movie going audience is conditioned to expect such things then it's gotten bad.
>>17577523
>only genre with the specific intent of invoking a specific emotion
That's retarded. Suspense? Drama? Fuckin rom-com?
>>17577390
This
Especiall dark haired girls
Big glossy black eyes
Gaping mouths
Ceiling crawling
Found footage
Meta horror
Bad or unresolved endings
Female leads (not even bad, just saying it's kind of a trope right now)
Technology run amok
THE REAL MONSTER IS MAN!!
Kids
Reboots and sequels
Intentional campiness
Holiday themed horror
Low saturation color grading and cooling camera filters
Haunted objects
Satan and demonic possession
Keep adding to this list and this could be the basis of a fun game. Like you find movies that have 3 or more of these cliches, more points for movies that have 3+ or something.
>>17577778
You forgot one of the worst of all: zombies.
>>17578064
zombies really don't count as horror anymore. the plots tend to be far more action drama than horror
Vampires, lord Byron, and the bad guy who we sympathize with.
>>17578064
I didn't forget, it was a purposeful omission. Zombies have pushed through the membrane of being clichéd and are now full blown pop culture. I lump them in with the Kardashians or hashtags, far and away from horror as a genre.
>>17578064
>implying zombie movies aren't about "da real enemy is man!"
or gommunism, but mostly man.
I went on a 5 month horror binge, I saw so many jump scares I just had to stop watching horror for a while. If I see even two jump scares, I just turn off the movie. It's cheap, it's boring, there's no emotional connection, it's just trashy.
Also when the monster is a thin woman, it's just boring. I've realized that psychological thriller/horror is the best genre.
>>17577542
Those aim to evoke particular emotions. Not the same as (good) horror's intent at all.
As a big fan of horro IMO:
Jumpscares
Loud as fuck noises
Skinny tall woman ghosts
Shitty music
Abuse of the FX
Bad plots
Bad plot-twists
Lack of creativity with the creatures
It is all the same shit over and over again with different name
>>17578267
For 300 hundred years Lich you're pretty clumsy posting in the wrong thread.
Jumpscares are the goddamn worst. Mainstream horror films feel like a computer program is pumping them out based on popular trends.
Horror movies are my favorite to watch though. I love finding that random gem, or that movie that ALMOST gets it. Even the bad ones are entertaining. It feels like horror films often have the most passion behind them. Even when directors fail you can tell they still really cared.
>>17578267
Silly skeleton! You're in the wrong thread!
>>17578278
Atleast he's buying it
Fuck shitty horror. Phantasm V when?
weird kids
I just cant watch horror movies with kids on it, they're silly
Roleplay youtube accounts
>>17578323
Yep, kids have never managed to creep me out.
how about horror tropes you never get sick of?
>white noise and synth-heavy soundtracks
>>17577373
Plague doctors are overused?
>>17577542
Its not horror if youre not scared.
>kids
>zombies
>jumpscares
Holy shit, it is so overused that you can't be scared anymore.
>>17577373
>incoming 3rd grade playground burn
Ur mum
>also turtle garlic bred
When a character is 'special'
>psychic abilities
>demon possessed
>im the only one who can see the super obvious signs of a haunting hurr durr
>familial/historical claim even though the character is boring af
>plain weirdness
And also its annoying when the characters are unrealistic, or portrayed in a plastic way
>mean teen older sister who is always on her cellphone and bitching
found footage
You guys have already covered most of it, but here's my list nonetheless.
> Jumpscares
> Slashers
> Gore
> Camera angles favoring jumpscares
> Camera angles implying something is stalking the characters
> Cardboard cutout characters (you know them)
> Frantic scenes trying to run from the creature with frantic music
> Trying to scare the audience with the creature's appearance alone
> It all becoming a shitty action movie halfway through
> The scooby-doo plot twist (evil was human all along!!1!!)
> 'Horror' about serial killers and whatnot
I don't think that any "theme" is overdone per se, you can certainly still have great horror movies about plain ghosts. It's just the format in which the themes are presented that is overdone and ridiculous.
>>17577778
>Meta horror
Elaborate.
>>17577373
THE most boring overused theme and something that almost always ruins the horror is the whole "The characters learn absolutely everything there is to know about the horror by the end" arc
For example: Sinister had a lot of potential. Got a lot of creepy atmospherics right in the first half of the movie. However, I can tell you the exact moment the movie was ruined for me: That one scene where the protag was sitting there looking at something, and in the background, a photo of Bagul turned its head to look at him.
Up until this point, they had left it ambiguous as to whether the murderer was supernatural or not. This confirmed it was supernatural in the dumbest way possible (a jump scare.) It wasn't long before he was running through the house being chased by ghosts (boring-ass scene, not frightening at all). By the end the protag had learned everything there is to know about Bagul. But it's okay, because look! We splashed some fake blood on the walls in a ridiculously overblown manner and hahaha we're going to end with a jump scare because FUCK YOU. Damn, Sinister as a movie could have been so much better.
Anyway, leave some ambiguity and mystery with your horror. You don't have to keep everything unknown, but mystery and ambiguity goes a long way to setting the mood.
Found footage ruined it for me
>THE REAL MONSTER IS MAN!
>da real enemy is man
>evil was human all along!!1!!
Okay we get it, samefag.
If there's a female vampire in a position of authority she is Lillith, the star of ancient Jewish fanfiction.
>>17579271
Not remotely close, but I ain't mad.
>>17579133
Like where the scary part is the grander implication outside of the actual plot. Cabin in the Woods is probably the first example to come to mind, and also the only one that did it right. There was another movie that delved into the theme of "existential horror" that I can't remember the name of, and I'd lump It Follows in the same category.
You really see it more in video games, especially indie titles that go out of the way to break the 4th wall. Not that I think it's bad to want to break up the formula of a linear plot, but there are way too many cases of films and games trying to do it and very few doing it well.
Jump scares are cliche, but I think they are a necessary evil and has to be used sparingly.
Zombies are horror just on theme. Found footage and my house/item is haunted is pretty bad. Another is over the top evil bad humans
Whats bad for the genre is that if done bad (with intentions to be scary) comes off as really bad. And its easy to fuck it up.
>>17579622
Oh, and the sleep paralysis documentary fits in to that category. They spend the entire doc interviewing people who experienced sleep paralysis and all the common waking nightmares they had, and then like 2/3rds of the way through they go "really all it took for me to start having these nightmares was to learn about sleep paralysis", which the viewer has been doing for the last hour or so.
I think, out of all the ones I posted earlier, intentional campiness annoys me the most.
John Dies at the End could/should have been so much better. If you read the book, you'd see it was one of very few stories that would have actually benefited from a massive FX budget. Usually you go heavy on FX or heavy on story, they did neither with that cinematic abortion.
Then you have the rise of Sharknado and shit like that, mercilessly trying to capitalize on genuine camp by studios like Troma. Hahaha I watched Sharknado I'm such a horror nerd. No, GDIAF.
When someone wearing a mask tilts their head to the side.
Like why?
>>17579658
It's probably to help show emotion. If someone is wearing a mask, it's hard to tell what they're thinking or feeling or what expression they might have on their face, which is the whole point of wearing a mask and why they're (over)used in horror movies. It's not as big a deal to me as some of the other stuff listed here, because it actually makes sense in real life.
>>17579658
Because how else will you know they're crazy, anon?
Oh man, the killer just titled his head! Like a little kid does when its confused or considering something! He must be crazy!
Good one, dude. That cliche never occurred to me but I'm fully triggered right now.
>>17577390
This and skinwalkers
>>17579664
You didn't see Leatherface or Michael or Jason pulling that shit. The head tilt is a straight up meme.
>>17579675
But are (/x/-style) "skinwalkers" actually a common thing in horror movies now? I've been avoiding newer ones for years, mostly due to stuff listed in this thread, so I wouldn't know.
>>17579678
>You didn't see Leatherface or Michael or Jason pulling that shit.
Didn't Jason do it at least once? But fair enough, I haven't seen any past the first couple movies in a long time.
>The head tilt is a straight up meme.
>meme
You've been on 4chan too long. The word you're looking for is "trope".
>>17579680
I'm talking about creepypastas.
Eli Roth.
The Shyamalan of horror.
-BOO! Haunted House
-Ugly filters
-The directing has become such that you can predict angles and how the scene progresses and it's really boring
-"What's that noise?! Oh, it's just a cat." Then they get killed.
-The same plots over and over and over
>>17579622
That's not meta. A Horror movie about the making of a Horror movie -- like Shadow of the Vampire -- is meta.
Cabin in the Woods is neither meta nor deconstruction; and something being meta/deconstruction isn't inherently good.
Also, there are SO many existential Horror movies; you can spend too much time analyzing Horror movies and find existential themes. It Follows isn't unique in that regard.
>>17579685
Lurking since 07 so you're probably right. But meme doesn't necessarily mean a funny picture with words on it, I meant it more in the Richard Dawkins sense of something culturally contagious.
You know what I wish would catch on? Surreal horror, like David Lynch type shit where the entirety of the film is like some kind of bad dream.
And if anybody ITT is a film producer, please please adapt something by Thomas Ligotti.
>>17579658
Fuck I always hates that but didn't know until right now
>>17579701
Cabin in the woods is very much meta and a deconstruction
The old gods = film execs
You have to follow the ritual or your movie can't get made
>>17579701
There's probably a better word for what I'm trying to get across than "meta". I sort of used it like a catch all for horror-within-horror or outside horror. Basically anything in which the writers are trying to make the spoops happen somewhere other than the actual plot.
Again, I don't mind it. I actually like that approach. But I see way too few cases of it done successfully.
>>17579726
I might toss Scream 1 into that category. It's a horror movie where the characters are trying to survive by the rules of a horror movie, and the whole thing is really a commentary by Craven on exactly what this thread is about.
>>17579732
This makes me think of the whole "and it could happen to you, or did it already?" endings.
>>17579738
I think he was successful in the fact that it had people looking at the older movies in a new light. It wasn't overly scary by any means, but put light on the old tropes that became stale.
>>17577401
>>17577505
just because you say so, fuck off, it's just passing it's more boring stage, that's all
Any good horror recommendations?
>>17579713
>But meme doesn't necessarily mean a funny picture with words on it, I meant it more in the Richard Dawkins sense of something culturally contagious.
Fair enough, most 4channers don't use it that way, though.
>You know what I wish would catch on? Surreal horror, like David Lynch type shit where the entirety of the film is like some kind of bad dream.
As long as it isn't ACTUALLY a bad dream at the end, I agree. Let's be friends.
>>17578682
>Heavy distortion sound tracks and low lighting
The sense of nausea gets me all the time
>>17578064
Zombies haven't been horror for years. In fact zombies are better used alongside comedy.
speaking of horror, have you guys seen the witch?
it's a great movie, good depiction of the era, it's not all gory besides some moments and the atmosphere is great.
>>17578744
Or don't forget the s00per c00l goth girl whos always calm and collected and has a retarded knowledge of the occult and shit.
>>17579091
>Camera angles implying something is stalking the characters
I actually like this, assuming we're talking about the same thing. Like the camera is about 10 feet behind the characters as they walk, at neck level-ish. It adds to suspense imo
Of course if it's set up just to be followed by a shitty jump scare then it sucks, but still
>>17577373
zombies
>>17580656
word?
>>17579622
Gumball does the meta horror surprisingly well, it's part of the overarching plot they've came up with.
>>17577542
You got me on suspense, but it's worth noting suspense often crosses over into horror. Drama and comedies play on different emotions to achieve an effect, but they're not trying to invoke a specific emotion.
>Based off a true story
>>17581037
>Not as bad as
>When she now knows....
GENERIC HAUNTED HOUSE MOVIE
>She just moved into a new house/town with her son/daughter after her husband died but something isn't right about this house/town...
Ten minutes into the movie
>GEE GOLLY ALL THIS WEIRD STUFF IS HAPPENING IM REALLY SCARED
30 minutes into the movie
>OH GOSH I ALMOST DIED TO SPOOKY SHIT GUESS I BETTER KEEP LIVING IN THE SAME SPOOKY HOUSE I JUST MOVED INTO!!
End of movie
>I DID IT I BANISHED THE DEMON/GHOST/SERIAL KILLER AND OR I WAS THE SPOOK THE WHOLE TIME!
the end
Tbh I like reading horror 100x more than I like watching it. No jump scares and if you have half an imagination it's a whole lot scarier.
>>17581080
any suggestions?
>>17579678
Michael Myers literally does this in the first movie when he stabs that dude onto the wall. You're incorrect.
>>17580220
Saw the trailer for that, looked decent enough to watch. The creepiest thing about it oddly enough was the quick shot of the goat bucking up on two legs.
Would watch
>>17581098
Almost anything by King, IMO. (Not the guy you asked). Dude's just a great writer, plus he knows how to sprinkle in the humor and the sci-fi
>>17581245
Really, King? I think the dude is vastly overrated for horror. I think he does much better with the dark fantasy stuff.
I remember reading It as a kid and masturbating to the underage gangbang scene and that makes me mildly uncomfortable
"Horror" shows like AHS and walking dead that waste my time with songs and daddy drama instead of being scary
Surprised this hasn't been mentioned
>Gore/splatter fetishism
"Horror" is pretty much is nothing but pornography for gore-lovers and corpse-fuckers
>>17581834
Horror of that sort is just another fashion thing for tumblrinas, like rockabilly and pinup-kitsch and being fat.
Stupid people
The subtlety in horror is still there, you just can't rely on big name movies to provide you with anything else but cheap nonsense. It also makes you wonder if maybe we're just too desensitized to enjoy them There are a lot of good horror movies still being made, maybe since we've seen "everything" there isn't much to frighten us anymore. Death isn't a scary proposition when you've seen it happen ten thousand ways to stock characters running from a blade wielding maniac that has more decoration than a Christmas tree.
The thrill isn't dead, the movies are necessarily bad, we've just seen too much.
Some generic images of the hell I think
How bout movies where the couple is at home or on vacation, and a group of people in masks start stalking them and spend all night trying to break in and kill them?
Also, a movie that I loved recently was "Uncle John". A slow creepy (non gory) thriller in rural Wisconsin. I live in the Midwest, and it really creates that creepy rural Midwest atmosphere. Everybody go watch it.
Also, I really enjoyed "the conspiracy".
Ghost children
Little girl giggle
Ball bouncing or toy rolling towards protagonist
Creepy lullaby music
Stupid white girl tripping and falling and crawls away instead of getting back up and running
That one person who doesn't believe shit till it's too late
Documentary types of horror like paranormal activity movies
Shit about haunted dolls
Predictable plot twist
Shit that leaves you hanging at the end
Calling a medium or a psychic
Calling a priest
Ghost or demon stalking baby or kid
Weird kids
Stupid dads that pass it off as nothing
Btw the Babadook was an alright movie
>>17581245
Gonna have to agree with that other guy. King has done some good stuff, but a lot of his works are just LOADED with cringe-worthy cliches, not to mention his habit of self-inserting.
>>17582190
>Btw the Babadook was an alright movie
Fail. Please leave.
>>17577408
Horror without any jumpscares ever would get boring as fuck. Even movies that "don't have jumpscares" like The Babadook still have jumpscares out the ass, people just don't recognize them because there's no loud sound accompanying them.
>>17578215
Zombies have nothing to do with communism lol. They cater to right wing fears of "uprisings" that upset the social order - zombies represent both a huge disaster and faceless hordes of morally-okay-to-kill poor people. There's a reason you never see many homeless main characters in zombie fiction, it's always former cops and other middle-class people.
>>17581098
Thomas. Fucking. Ligotti.
>>17577408
and fake-out jumpscares where you think there's about to be a monster/ghost/etc, and then their friend jumps out at them as a joke. i read something about how thats the worst trend in horror movies right now because it instantly removes all the built up tension, and tension is what horror relies on to be effective
>>17581797
which book was that?
inquiring minds want to know
>>17581148
Fair enough. But it wasn't a trope at the time. Now every movie with some fucker in a mask is doing it every other kill.
>>17582249
As did the T-1000 in Terminator 2, as does the psycho bodyguard in Banshee, as did the human/alien hybrid in Alien: Resurrection...
It's a classic trope that's been around for years. It's an easy way to show a psycho/robot/etc processing someone's pain with zero empathy.
>>17579693
Shyamalan actually made some good movies though.
>>17582372
>movies
>plural
You get "The Sixth Sense" and maybe "Unbreakable". That's about it, man.
>>17582378
Signs is great and The Visit is ok. fite me m8
>>17582248
seconded.
>>17580233
I actually like that thought.
More so if the girl have dark hair, is pale and don't have crazy hair colors like the nu-goths or piercings (not to many at least).
>>17582380
>jump scare
>scares you
"I'm not scared it was just cheap"
>secretly you arw just scared of jump scares but want to feel like a rough person
>>17582424
Hate to bring it up, but South Park hit the nail on the head with this one.
Being startled =/= being scared. Jump scares are overused because people equate being startled with being scared, and jump scares can startle even people fully expecting and knowing one is about to happen. It's like an optical illusion. The tension build in music, slow camera panning, extreme closeup (say of a hand slowly reaching to open/uncover something) - it's all but guaranteed to make people jump. I don't like being startled, but I don't mind a jump scare when it's used well. The problem is they're so easy to pull off they are rarely done well. It's usually damn easy to spot one coming, and I just sigh and look away from the screen until the music spikes. I've yet to have this make me miss any info in a movie.
>>17582444
Some might disagree on whether it fits, but I think the defib scene in The Thing is a good jump scare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16N1naXGa58
Mainly because it isn't trying to scare you, it's trying to startle you. No build-up music, no slow movement. Yet the scene can still make you jump back first time you see it. It's sudden and unexpected. the main difference between this and a "real" jump scare to me is that the scene lingers on the "jump," as the point here is the body horror more than the jump.
This scene from Exorcist 3 is an excellent jump scare in a terrible movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH8ynu0jRvY
The big thing here is they disguised the build up. Instead of ominous music, there's no music, not even sound. It lulls the audience into boredom. Just night time at the Catholic Hospital. Nothing to see here. And it gives the scene time to dull you.
Second, they combine the quick cut so often used and the extreme closeup in a single quick zoom. This gives you the unexpected movement vital to a jump scare, without forcing your eye to take in a new scene. Yet even without a quick cut, there isn't much time to fully process what you see before the shot changes to the headless statue. Masterful.
>>17582190
I think Babadook would have been a lot better as a short film. Not enough detail about the past but way too much annoying child bullshit. It didn't use cheap ass jump scares but still pulled a creepy vibe.
>>17582226
>not understanding memes
>>17582467
An example of a terrible fucking jump scare was from the movie Insidious 2.
Insidious really is a gold mine of terrible jump scares. Nothing but people moving from behind a block (either the scene's main actor or a partition or the dark background or whatev) and loud, screechy violin. Entirely dependent on the sound - quiet to suddenly loud and screechy. Take that away and most of the scares just look like an extra bumped into them and ran past. A clip of examples, I recommend you turn your sound way down - the screechy violin is annoying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJFgpdo0xj8
There was one scene in particular I can't seem to find a vid of. (Even the fans thought it wasn't worth compiling.) Wife runs into baby's room and there's a spectral guy hovering over the crib behind some gauzy curtains. Problem was, for me at least, the guy was so hazy behind all the cover that I didn't even see him. I knew SOMETHING was supposed to be scary, because the screechy noise played and they did a quick-pan around the door frame. Yet it took me replaying and pausing to see that I wasn't just supposed to be scared of the nursery room itself.
CGI
Since we're somewhat negative, what good Horror Movies would you actually recommended to someone?
look in mirror- alone
bend over, stand up, someone behind you
>>17582711
Depends what you like. I can give two for each genre - classic and somewhat unknown
psychological:
The Shining
Bug
monster:
The Thing
Screamers
ghosts:
House on Haunted Hill
The Frighteners
slow zombie:
Night of the Living Dead
Dawn of the Dead (original)
fast zombie/infection:
28 Days Later
Splinter
demon/occult:
Rosemary's Baby
The Ninth Gate
I could continue, but I think I'm just listing movies everyone knows about at this point.
Seriously check out Bug though, it's fantastic, and not enough people have seen it. If you check out the trailer, don't let marketing mislead you - it is not a monster film.
Boo
>>17582766
>ghosts:
>House on Haunted Hill
nigga the frighteners wasn't even horror, neither was the ninth gate and Screamers was a cheesy movie about robots. your taste in movies is shite
TVTROPES.COM
>>17582804
Frighteners is better and has scarier moments than most horror ghost movies. Ninth Gate is Faustian in nature, though it is the search for knowledge that corrupts and damns instead of a deal. Screamers is a great monster movie where the monsters are robots.
Your taste is nonexistent, but thanks for coming by to drop a bit of your shit on the thread.
>>17577373
>tension build up through the entire movie
>scare jumps here and there
>story ends with people and shit being loud and flying everywhere
you know how found footage movies always end with the last character being "safe" only to be killed off/ taken by the monster? that's pretty annoying.
>>17582711
Good and bad are fairly subjective. I can tell you a few that I enjoyed.
Sublime.
The fifth Hellraiser movie.
The Woman in Black remake (the Daniel Radcliffe one).
Pandorum
Jacob's Ladder
Flatliners
>>17582444
I said this in a thread a few months ago, but it bears repeating. The thing with jumpscares is not that they don't affect people (they totally do) but that it's a very superficial reaction. Worse, it's one that disturbs your immersion. Something jumps out, you flinch, and your instincts make you aware of the room you're physically in. To reassure yourself that the spook is still on the safe side of the screen, you have to notice the screen.
You're trying to differentiate between fear (the mental apprehension of danger) and its physical symptoms. A jumpscare is a cheap shortcut. It gets your juices flowing. And they're popular not because people can't tell the difference, but because most of them don't actually care. It's the same reason they ride rollercoasters. They want the intensity of sensation without the inconvenience of actual danger. If it's going to be fake either way, they're not going to care as much for means as for ends.
If you keep looking away, you're just avoiding being desensitized. I've seen so many that they no longer work on me, including in real life. You start half-expecting something to pop out in any situation, and then if it happens you aren't surprised.
>>17577373
"Found footage"
>>17584347
Meh, overall agree, but I would amend that I was trying to highlight horror more than fear. What I consider to be the dread or apprehension that sticks with you after the movie. It's the reason I prefer psychological or "it could happen" horror. The type that gets your mind more than your brain, so it doesn't matter if you look away or not.
>If you keep looking away, you're just avoiding being desensitized.
No worries there. It's not like I get scared by them, but I don't enjoy the sensation. Why would I eat a bunch of food I don't like just so I can continue eating said food?
And there's no similarity to jump scares and real life, but bravo on being so brave.
>The fifth Hellraiser movie.
Really? I gave up on the series at the 4th, and even then was regretful about seeing the latter two. Is it still worth a shot if I didn't like 3 & 4? Never saw Woman in Black, but the rest are good. Ever see The Ugly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmD7r1RJJ88
Good review from a terribly formatted channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRWmAzOxeIk
>>17584494
>bravo on being so brave
Bravery is being afraid and not letting it stop you. I'm just not afraid. Or rather, not impressed.
Seriously, you've never had someone pop out and BOO you?
>The fifth Hellraiser movie.
Yes, really. It started off as a completely unrelated movie and they shoehorned it into the franchise because they figured it would sell better with brand recognition.
The 4th movie nearly killed the series. They give away backstory by the shovel-full and it needed mystery to thrive. The 5th one revived things a bit. The recent Lance Henriksen one was decent, too. He was phoning it in, and he's just so good that he carried the movie anyway. But if you're not a Hellraiser fan, you won't want to bother.
The new version of The Woman in Black is jumpscare heavy, but it also does atmosphere well, and the story is strong (it's an adaptation of a novel). You have to like period pieces and British acting, though.
I'll take your suggestion, but it'll be months before I get around to watching it in full. Long backlog, limited time.
>>17584627
>I'm just not afraid. Or rather, not impressed.
This is how I feel. Perhaps my time in customer service allowed me to dampen any reaction to unexpected stimulus (gotta keep smiling and taking the order no matter what dish drops or baby screams behind you) but I don't jump to much of anything. Being tall probably contributes, and since I'm quiet I tend to sneak up on people, who turn around for a face full of chest. Makes people hop back.
Any case, the only time I recall being real life jump scared is messing around with my brother. He would, for example, hit me then run and hide and pop out when I chased him. That would startle me, but my reaction was always to immediately strike.
That and bugs. Or any creature that goes from completely motionless to full-speed scurry in an instant. That's gone away over time, I can bare-hand grab any type of bug now.
>does atmosphere well, and the story is strong (it's an adaptation of a novel). You have to like period pieces and British acting, though.
This intrigues me. I liked Crimson Peak, if that gives a hint of whether I'd like this.
Conversely, what ISN'T overdone? That is to say, what aspect of horror would you guys like to see more of?
>>animal masks
>>a single person deciding to hunt a large group of people (usually in secluded area)
>>no reason or back story for the murderers intentions
>>possessed by a demon
>>exorcisms
>>children things like story books or toys like dolls being evil
>>trilogies or longer (paranormal activity, sinister, incidious)
>>old remakes
>>17585089
>not liking animal masks
Fucking commies
>>17585081
The first Dead Space vidya was pretty nice imo. Not a single jumpscare and you can shit yourself at peace.
All the body horror comes in second place. The ayy lmao voodoo madness shit is really strong. Like you never know what the fuck you been into all the time.
I like things that scare you the more you try to figure them.
[spoiler] An example is when the USM Valor finds your beacon, gets fucked by necromorphs, and finally Hammond tells you they were NOT going to save you at all. [/spoiler]
>>17585081
>what aspect of horror would you guys like to see more of?
Cosmic insignificance and meaninglessness of humanity. The idea that things aren't happening TO us or BECAUSE of us, but we just happen to be where things happen, and it destroys us.
The last movie to even try to attempt something of this aspect was Godzilla.
But no worries - someday, someone will give us the Mountains of Madness and Dagon movies we deserve.
>>17585199
I want Lovecraftfags to leave.
>>17577390
This
Fucking kids. Why is it always kids
Kids with long black hair
Kids with stretched mouths
Kids kids kids
Kids aren't scary
>>17577390
>>17585277
The real monster in Babadook was the kid.
I really hope my children don't turn out to be autistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8s1Zgq1D3Q
>>17577373
stretched out mouths
it was cool when Francis Bacon did it in the 40s. pic related
>>17585199
For some reason reading this I thought to myself that Valhalla Rising kind of hits this chord
>>17579713
but anon, surreal horror needs creativity.
that's too much work, let's just have gape-mouth zombie-ghosts and maniacs with masks we can capitalize on and sell at hot topic
>>17585303
whenever he reaches that unnatural pitch I wonder how some people felt empathy for him. I loved it when the Babadook sort of possessed his mom and instead of saying something like a cliché creepy statement he just made fun of him for pissing his pants.
>>17585081
Kids being the ones that have to deal with the whole paranormal/creepy shit instead of adults.
Seriously, I don't think there are many horror movies that have children as their lead protagonist.
>>17585687
LITERALLY goosebumps
>>17585687
Krampus?
>>17585277
It's unsettling when perceptibly innocent things behave without innocense
>>17579713
I like this post
>>17585687
Actual children or teenagers? Because it's teenagers 90% of the time.
Oh, and IT. So there's another one for you. It's not like they're that rare.
>>17579713
Memetic thought, not cat pictures, yes?
>>17581069
House of the Devil was alright
>>17582226
>THE CAPITALISM IS ALL ABOUT IT BEING MORALLY OK TO KILL POOR PEOPLE! :'(
what is holodomor
>>17582190
>that whole list
>no no the babadook was alright
get out next you will probs be saying it follows was good too
>>17585860
Elucidate what you didn't like about those films and we'll see if your opinion has any merit.
>>17582226
the opposite
Zombies are a Liberal power fantasy, the mindless masses swarming and consuming their unique individual specialness
alternatively Vampires are the Conservative go-to monster because they represent evil elite masterminds coming down to prey on defenseless ordinary folk
(both in the American context btw)
Why we don't have Eldritch Horros flicks?
Id love to watch it
>>17585926
Deltoro or whatever his name is tried to do at the mountains of madness, but the studio's wanted a female love interest and a PG13 rating.
That's why.
>>17577373
Slenderman. Or more precise, his fanbase.
Easily jump scares
It's kind of ruined the genre for movies and games
>>17577373
Those are called tropes, not memes.
>>17586026
when i heard he was trying to at the mountains of madness, i was pretty thrilled. then that shit.
>>17577373
Skinwalkers.
>>17586026
That literally made me madder than anything in my life.
>>17582213
Clearly you've never watched quality horror. Hell, you haven't even played good horror games. Try to watch, for example, the original Ju-on movies, then play PT, then report back to tell if horror without jumpscares is scary or not.
>>17585277
>>17585711
>innocent
I know a number of young children due to my family fucking like rabbit and they kids are unnerving, but especially the little girls
the little boys are often ordinary but morality sure as fuck hasn't set in and doesn't for a good while and it can be freaky, the little girls have a whole host of strange tendencies, the each of them
>>17577469
SPOOKY FACE JUMPSCARE roll credits
>>17577485
Pewdiepie killed slenderman
>>17583515
>Ninth Gate is Faustian in nature, though it is the search for knowledge that corrupts and damns instead of a deal
no, Ninth Gate is awful. He isn't after knowledge, he's after money. All your other recommendations are good enough though
>>17586533
The movie is him searching for information and the location of the book. The fact that he's doing it for money is irrelevant. It is the search that condemns him.
>>17586519
This
It wasn't actually a terrible meme back in 2010 when it was still pretty much an internet campfire story, but as we all know normalfags ruin everything
>>17582711
Coraline, it is still spoopy even as an adult.
>>17585186
There was jumpscares lol. It was like Doom 3 tho, the jumpscares were used properly I thought. #2 was also pretty cool, I bought it at release and was thoroughly spooked. Never played #3 though,the whole co-op thing makes it seem less scary if the monsters have another person to attack rather than all coming at you.
>>17587015
Remember the girl who stabbed her friend because slenderman told her to do it after watching pewdiepie videos
L m a o
>>17582766
I just watched Bug practically the same minute you posted this and I don't really know what to make of it. It's definitely one of the weirder movies I've seen. I like it and dislike it for the same reasons. It was super interesting, though.
>>17579658
>>17579664
>>17579673
It's also a primitive way of hearing better. Dogs do it.
They talk about in Fringe.
"she points out the characteristic Observer habit of tilting their heads to one side, which she identifies as a lizard instinct that humans have abandoned long ago"
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5970764/on-fringe-were-laughing-at-the-superior-intellect
>>17585273
But this is a thread on worn out horror tropes.
Did someone say...meme?
>>17582243
>>17579713
Where do I start with Ligotti?
Ass n tiddies. Might be that I like to watch bad horror flicks for laughs because Iove cliche's, but these movies would be so much more enjoyable with out showing girls with small tits or a bad balloons giggling like idiots. Every time I see these kind of actors in horror movies, I hope they die first because then I don't have to watch them hump the jock type for more than five minutes top before they are both slaughtered by something.
Also based on a true story. It's not a true story if some idiot hears a cat knock something over at night and thinks it's satan.
>>17579228
I liked sinister until I actually saw the fucking antagonist and he just looks like the fucking guitarist from Slipknot. It ruined it the way that Dartg Maul ruined Insidious.
kids who are just totally chill with ghosts and demons and not scared of literally everything like kids are so they ~make friends~ and get possessed
>>17585837
>What is a famine that only occurred because Russia had to industrialize quickly to catch up with western nations, and kulaks were sabotaging shit
Okay what about it?
>>17580887
Wat
>>17586469
>P.T.
>not having jump-scares
>>17590241
I honestly don't think there are any. Only if you let Lisa approach you from behind at worst.
>>17584377
This
Egzorcism horror movies
The beginning and the middle of the movie are okay and usually somewhat "scary" but when the actual egzorcism happens its the most boring and predictable and stupid shit to watch. Literally 0 egzorcism movies got a good ending imo.
>>17590433
>Egzorcism
hyperrealistic blood trailed down tinky winkys hyperrealistic face and onto the hyperealistic floor
Crappy Pastoids
I don't understand why so many people hate the kid from the Babadook. He clearly had issues dealing with his dad being gone.
>>17587357
Book is spooky too.
>>17577408
This
Horror filmmakers have forgotten how to do tension and suspense without jump scares and telegraphing music
Mockumentary/people holding cameras the whole time. It's annoying and not even scary, why the fuck is it so popular?
I've completely given up on it. Every single horror movie my sister rents is one of these, and she's annoyed by it too.
>>17586086
>>>/tv/
No one cares, dipshit.
>>17582213
Kind of agree. I actually don't mind jump scares if they're done well. Gets me excited.
>>17585394
If you have ever dealt with mentally ill or autistic children, especially the ones who did not receive proper treatment or care from early age, you would be surprised by how accurate this film is. The amount of people whose reaction was "damn, that kid needs a spanking" or "I wish the mother would just murder him" is actually disturbing. People pretend to feel sorry for ill children when these children are quiet, shy and easy to manage, but once the less conventional symptoms come, even the fake empathy is gone.
Disgusting.
>>17590605
Basically this.
>>17590599
I hate that people don't even know what meme means anymore. I guess it's the latest buzzword to be worn into the ground and misused by the masses.
>>17577373
children pointing.
smile with too many teeth.
random shaking and twitching.
and there was a massacre on this day and spot.
Honestly, jump scares are fine if they aren't used every 5-10 minutes. They're a great payoff for prolonged sequences of tension, but modern horror uses them in lieu of generating suspense.
>>17585926
>Eldritch Horros flicks?
Define this. BecauseLovecraftian movies exist.
>>17578682
The use of claustrophobia in horror movies never fails to make me deeply uncomfortable
>>17582766
>The Thing
I'm going to be honest here. I thought The Thing aged really badly. I wanted to like it; the atmosphere was there, the build ups were there, the setting was there, but whenever one of the things was exposed, my immersion was broken because those practical effects look so damn dated.
>>17591045
Still looks better than your typical CGI creature that makes the standard roars, squeals and hisses.
It's like they have CGI creature soundpack that 's used by every studio. My scare boner is instantly lost at the sight of CGI.
>>17591063
Ok that's cool, but I never even mentioned CG
>>17590599
>Those are called tropes, not memes.
>>17591106
Tropes are memes.
>>17591113
Tropes can't be memes because tropes show up in stories whereas memes show up in common dialogue. Using memes in a story is one type of trope. You have literally no reason to be a shit about this.
>>17591126
lol chill out dude I'm just messin with ya
>>17578064
zombie horrors? where they are? le postapolyptic "zombie" dramas? yes! zombie horror! no!
>>17591254
modern zombie movies are not horrors. a shame. would love to see zombie horror movie. better somewhere near cemetery with rotten zombies.
>>17589992
what about your stop reading jewish shit "history". Kulaks? you mean NORMAL PEASANTS. sandniggerish racial minorities and kikes took over the power in RUSSIA!
>>17585837
it was not only holodomor, dummy. and not only in Ukraine, in Russia too.
>>17591063
That's because The Thing doesn't use CGI for its creatures. Or am I thinking of the Fly?
>>17578682
Unusual set design, lightning, color, anything that gives you the feeling of being on a creepy alternate dimension, that's why suspiria is my favourite movie ever
>>17578733
rekt
Every scary movie has something scary in it, this gets old. It's time to move past that.
>>17577373
dumb scared teenagers.
>>17577373
jumpscares
body horror
>>17581797
the gunslinger was kinda cool (dark fantasy)
>>17582246
yup, and they're in nearly every horror movie, ever
>>17592061
It is also one of the biggest examples of his self-inserting, though I think it's one of the better handled cases of self-insertion, to be honest.
>>17585303
god i hated that kid
>>17590605
Or it could be that he's a fucking fictional character so nobody cares what happens to him, you self righteous dickface.
>>17582598
i watched that video without sound and i could barely determine when i was supposed to be startled.
>>17577373
Mine is creep-related but may not relate entirely to horror
>Person has a really fucked up, disturbing dream like they've never had
>Wake up with a jolt, friend is sitting beside them
>"You okay?"
>"Yeah just a little nightmare tee hee it's not like I'm remotely mentally scarred or anything"
People need to fuck off with this shitty trope. If I had a fucked up dream like that and there was someone I knew sitting beside me when I woke up, I'd tell the shit out of them.
Somebody tripping as they're running away from something
>>17578242
What films do you recommend? The only good psych horror I know of that lacks real jump scares is The Moth Man Prophecies. But even that one has a stupid jump scare in the beginning.
>>17593566
half of the movie is shitty loud sound effect jump scares
it's pretty good though, but not really horror
>>17577373
What if new horror was based on conspiracy theories andthings that are being researched such as the percentage of our brains that we are able to tap into, like for example the movie Lucy or Insidous where astral projection is introduced, The fourth kind with the sumerian beings.
>>17577402
>>17577485
You guys are idiots. Slenderman, the original concept, was scary as fuck. It was original and mysterious, there was a lot that was unknown about him, and it was extremely creepy.
People only say that he's stupid or not scary because he became so popular and they're either tired of hearing about him, or they're the type of people that dislike things just because they're popular, which is retarded.
>>17593566
Agree 100%
I randomly watched that movie a few years ago knowing nothing about it, and I loved it so much, it is exactly the type of horror I always look for and is so hard to find. I don't get why it isn't more popular.
>>17578242
This.
Can you give recommendations for good movies in this genre? I've seen most of the ones that get recommended by people, so it's getting hard to find more, but since you binged on them for 5 months and have similar taste to mine hopefully you can suggest some I haven't seen yet.
The witch was pretty OK , opinions?
>>17593726
>opinions?
You're a fag.
Movie was pretty good though, yeah.
>>17577373
>2spook4me
>>17579713
I feel like I'm reading something that I wrote a long time ago. It's such a weird fucking feeling. Either you are me or I need to go outside.
Deepweb crap
>>17590622
>latest
>>17587015
Are there any good "internet campfire stories" recently or just old and good?
I.e. Good creepypasta that not many have heard of
>>17593938
The Despair Code
>>17579091
>The scooby-doo plot twist (evil was human all along!!1!!)
I'm possibly the only person on Earth who liked The Village, but generally yeah.
>>17581098
Not that guy but Lovecraft, Ligotti, and the first half of "The King In Yellow" are good places to start
>>17579655
Just imagine Return of the Living Dead as a serious movie. It would be great, just like the much better Dawn of the Dead remake.
>>17579675
The only movies that did "skinwalkers" right were the Terminator franchise (the robots actually kill other people and "wear" their body to infiltrate the resistance camps.
>>17582198
>cringe-worthy cliches
Why did you have to remind me... no problem, hey, I'm already forgetting everything!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
>>17590605
Suffer not the mutant to live.
>>17591126
>I don't know what a meme is.
>>17586036
Former associate with the Slenderverse here. Slender Man and his fanbase are pretty much dead. It's first blow was when Pewdiepie made Slender mainstream, then the stabbings happened, and then Marble Hornets had a disappointing ending. The crew who made Marble Hornets has also broken up and EverymanHYBRID and TribeTwelve are nearing their end but take 6 months to make a video.
I don't even talk to anyone from the Slenderverse nore do I want to because most them were cringey as shit.
>>17589755
His work has been hard to find for nearly decades but Penguin Classics has just released a collection of his stories, start with that and hope more big publishers notice his work.
>>17593667
Slenderverse guy here again, thats true, but the many things he's starred have become cliches.
>>17579622
>It Follows
So was this about abstinence or what
I'm a person who reads a lot of horror fiction writing. Here's are the cliches I don't like.
-Making bad Lovecraftian fan-fiction (If you're an aspiring horror author, stay away from Lovecraft's Mythos, create your own and be original)
-Being gory for the sake of being shocking, (Stop aping Palahniuk)
-Trying to make your horror story more "literate" by inserting tons of literary references that are only there for referencing. It's stupid and confusing.
-And the biggest: Inserting references only hardcore horror fans will get. (And horror authors wonder why they can't get published by the big publishers, only small presses, this is why). (This is also hurting Sci-Fi and Fantasy books).
>>17594273
I also like to read creepypasta, but that has unfortunely gone downhill the past few years. It has all the cliches you guys have said, but every once in a while you'll find a gem.
I actually think creepypasta is why you don't really see horror being published by big publishers any more (Unless your King, Koontz, or King's son). People just read whats freely on the internet and don't want to buy horror thats actually been edited for better quality.
>>17594283
I think the only way for horror to get better is for creepypasta writers to stop writing just for free and actually get published.
PS: Don't trust horror awards like the Bram Stoker Awards or the Shirley Jackson Awards, all they are just friends voting for friends.
>>17594298
But yeah, I also wish production companies looked at more horror books for source material.
The weird jumpscare at the very end
>>17584627
>nearly killed the series. They give away backstory by the shovel-full and it needed mystery to thrive
So, is it like Prometheus, with the difference that we are bound to get more of those Scott shits?
>>17577373
Your mother
>>17586026
You also forget that Toro said he wouldn't do the movie because the way he wanted it to like would make it a copy of Prometheus.
>>17594298
Even Hugo and Nebula have become just that.
