What really happens after death?
>>17576664
Only one way to know for sure......
>>17576666
Ave Quad Satanas!!!!
Kill yourself OP and report back to us.
Someone with cerebral palsy teaches you to shave... down there
take your meds
>>17576666
judgement
Ah just wanta shayve ya
>>17576664
It will be the sum of your own life so
In your case nothing.
>>17576664
Based on science and what we know your spirit or conciousness will ascend to the next dimension.
I think there are something like 11 dimensions in total.
Seeing as the 4th dimension is time itself you will probably to directly to the 5th upon death.
>>17576664
>>17576664
the universe ceases to exist
>>17577055
Which one?
>>17576664
The same as which occurred before birth
>>17577118
the one your in right now
>>17576664
There's blackness. Just blackness. No Heaven, no Hell, just blackness. Nothing but void and darkness.
Remember that time from before you were born? Something like that.
Just make the best out of your life, son
>>17577156
WAKE ME UP
There has to be something, anything. Maybe this is some sort of intelligent machine?
>>17577156
>implying you can conceive of darkness in death
>implying you can perceive even the lack of color
The joke is on you. We're trapped here on earth.
We never die.
But where do all these new consciousnesses come from?
>>17576664
Of course probably nobody knows for sure.
However, I'll state my best guess.
I think the answer to the question of where your consciousness resides is it's the brain waves (It can't be your body for obvious reasons, and saying it's the brain itself creates problems by asking at what level of complexity does inanimate matter become conscious. Saying it's your brain waves that are conscious resolves these issues and gives an interesting picture of the human brain as being a sort of "generator" for consciousness).
If this idea is right then the core component of "experience" is energy taking a certain form. When we die that energy disperses, but it may be possible that this energy can be trapped by some sort of "generator" like the human brain which will warp it into a form that is conscious.
According this you'll probably live and experience again. I don't think it's possible to perceive time without a brain so even if countless universes rise and die before your energy takes a conscious form again to you it will appear to happen in an instant, and this cycle continues forever.
So we're all essentially eternal entities ever changing between bound (alive and conscious) and unbound (dead / not experiencing) states.
some gay ass light recycle u to etiopia
Look, as someone who's died many, MANY times -- hell, my friends and I plan on dying this weekend -- it's nothing like you expect.
>>17577253
Bring me back a t-shirt
I think it's something more complex than simply oblivion, or heaven, or hell. I think it's something along the lines of reincarnation but infinitely more complex. I don't believe there is a true death.
>>17577156
>filename
Kek
>>17576664
You shit your pants
>>17577307
LOL
>>17577143
I wasn't that anon by the way if that changes anything.
>>17577203
>implying we aren't just constantly being recycled
History repeats itself, nothing new under the sun etc
>>17577156
>Just blackness. No Heaven, no Hell, just blackness
Some would call that hell!
when you die you spend eternity in paradise with your waifu(s)
>>17576664
Your consciousness dies with your body.
>>17577347
Now that's a belief I can get behind!
>>17577156
The blind can't perceive darkness, why would dead people be able to?
the car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel
and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
and a dark wind blows
the government is corrupt
and we're on so many drugs
with the radio on and the curtains drawn
we're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
and the machine is bleeding to death
the sun has fallen down
and the billboards are all leering
and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles
it went like this:
the buildings tumbled in on themselves
mothers clutching babies picked through the rubble
and pulled out their hair
the skyline was beautiful on fire
all twisted metal stretching upwards
everything washed in a thin orange haze
i said: "kiss me, you're beautiful -
these are truly the last days"
you grabbed my hand and we fell into it
like a daydream or a fever
we woke up one morning and fell a little further down -
for sure it's the valley of death
i open up my wallet
and its full of blood
>>17577272
I agree with this, I feel that things like Heaven, Hell, and reincarnation are approximations of things that we don't understand yet. Also it's possible that dying is just going back to your "normal" existence, and that this life is little more than a brief dream in comparison. Something that always struck me as interesting is that during many dreams you feel absolutely certain that it is completely real, even though it isn't.
I have a feeling that death is something like a K hole.
>>17576664
Even though I'm Christian, I like to think there's a somewhat scientific reason for it. Two separate ways of thinking for me.
The universe had a beginning: Thus, at some possibly indeterminable point, there had to be absolutely nothing. Not time, space, matter, or dimension. Now, if this holds true, than something or someone had to create it. If there is a significance to consciousness, then whats to say it's not something other than a higher form of existence? So many people claim that nothing happens when we die, because consciousness isn't quantifiable, but I believe that if this is the case then maybe it is outside of existence. It is outside existence in the same manner as what was before the beginning of something out of nothing.
On the other hand, the universe could have always been: If this is true, I still believe something may be possible after death. Nature has many themes. Take the Golden Ratio in pic related; in different forms, this ratio is observable in nature. Hurricanes, galaxies, flowers, and others. If infinity is possible for the universe, whose to say that is the only possible case of infinity? Why can't consciousness then be recycled, stored, or channeled? That is why I choose to believe in an afterlife, regardless.
>>17577347
>>17577369
You should read the Islamic Hadiths sometime. Heaven in Islam (for good Muslim men, at least) is basically a sexual paradise where each man will get dozens or even hundreds of women for themselves, including whatever wives they had on Earth. Some Muslim writers even talked about having permanent erections on the other side, and the possibility of having young boy 'servants.'
>>17577422
I'm more of a L hole kinda guy myself.
>>17577455
>I'm more of a L hole kinda guy myself.
What does 'L' hole mean? The reason I ask is because people are always telling me I'm an "A hole". Is that better or worse than 'L' or what?
>>17577433
There is no escape.
>>17577517
I think they mean lsd
>>17577156
We go to detroit when we die?
>>17577194
owned
>>17577532
What's with the eye of Horus
When you die your brain stops working. Since your consciousness is obviously endowed by God to you, it will return to him, probably to be judged in some way.
>>17577163
Kek that filename
>>17576664
Nothing, just like all of our lives. That is why we post on 4chan right?
>>17577163
This!
Sweet Oblivion
>>17577584
If I explained it, I would be killed.
The world is alive and it's what everyone through time has called God.
Google fibonacci.
>>17576664
Blackness. Just blackness. Then a bright, blinding light blurs your "vision". As your soul gradually begins to make sense of the light you notice it forming what seemd to be a recognizable pattern. Inconceivably deafening beeping follows. Panic sets in. No matter which direction you "look in" you see this pattern forming, the beeping increasing in intensity and then the light points you in the direction of the next plane of consciousness. It blows your mind.
"LEVEL 2"
>>17577329
Some would also call that heaven
so anyway I had this dream I was in a class on time travel. Anyway I forgot to do the project, but I just wanted to take the class. So the class book was kinda sparse. I was reading it all class. There was some other cool stuff secrets of the universe stuff, but I'm tired of typing.
>>17577587
>Since your consciousness is obviously endowed by God to you
source?
Smoke some DMT.
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/dmt.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9WPoRB0-uM
>>17577899
Stop before it's too late and you end up DEAD from revealing too much.
>>17577913
?
>>17576664
anyone who thinks they know is full of shit
it's a fun think to ponder tho
>>17577019
Only 6. 4th is where you go after Death. 5th is were you try train yourself or reflect on what you wanted to do. 6th is Godhood.
>>17577375
their just blind they can imagine that dead people can't.
Just my opinion
Just mayybeee
We meet Kakyoin
>>17576664
Nobody knows the way it's gonna be. Just to think if there is reincarnation?
I prefer to say Somehow.
As I posted it here on the same thread topic, I'd search for it again in the catalog/archive and boom it's gone i think the modes delete it.
As what I'm saying, if reincarnation is true and our population are growing then we are like fractions of the whole spirit.
If you're thinking for some religious things
We will go at the purgatory where we will be judge if we will go to heaven and meet God and have some thug life or to hell and meet Satan and take the punishment.
If you're mind is being a scientist type (nerd alert!) who doesn't believe in such religious creator thing
Then as >>17577156 said just black.
I hope that helps just EAT I think you're just hungry get a life!
you'll be reborn as a cute japanese girl and have the best life imaginable
Your own death will never happen. When you die since you can no longer observe it, it no longer exists. You don't die you kill everything else.
>>17578150
We can rerorero with him for eternity.
>>17577019
>Based on what I pulled out of my ass and what crazy people claim they know...
Fixed that for ya, no charge.
I think when you die you either reincarnate or you live in a eternal dream state where your in your own personal heaven.
>>17576664
http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/
>>17576664
Nothing.
You cannot comprehend it, but don't worry, you won't be bothered by that, I think it's just like passing out during something. When you pass out, you just skip to the time you wake up, and in-between you're out of consciousness, in which you have no worry or thought or pretty much anything of that sort going on.
Death for me is as pleasant as life, the way of dying is something else entirely.
You go to animeland and live happily ever after with your waifu
>>17577436
That sounds dumb, sex isn't everything
>>17576664
I don't know, ask dead person. Also, nice pic related >>17576931 This guy gets it
>>17577436
False.
They can get that by choice but it's not told they will or if it's guaranteed.
The Hadith that talks about it with the 72 virgins thing is a weak Hadith and ill cited, so it isn't true basically.
>>17577397
cool.
>>17579415
this only happens if you stay true to your waifu for your entire life
>>17579441
>They can get that by choice
>but it isn't true basically
To be fair though they do say that there is much more to Heaven than beautiful women.
>>17576664
>What really happens after death?
You poop your pants.
>>17579467
The choice is anything(which of course includes women) in heaven is true.
But it does not say particularly women in hadith, which is the 72 virgins bullcrap.
>>17577156
if this happens then that means life is completely pointless
and we all know that's not true
Well when I was 20 I tried to kill myself with sleeping pills, as I swallowed the last of the package of twenty I fell back, and I remember it feeling as if I was falling through space, the reaction as if you are drowning where your body fights it,
anyhow, flashing lights then blackness, a brief dream of being in a post appocalyptic bombed out factory space and it being ankle deep in black water. I called out.
Then flash I am in the hospital waking up, not clearly but a awful urge of still wanting to get the fuck away from where I had been in the dream.
Was it just my brain going cold? was it the after life.
I feel stupid as fuck for trying it but that was my experience. and sometimes I still dream about the place, being around the building the area..
>>17579513
Or that people are just too afraid that it could all mean nothing?
That there won't be justice for a certain criminal?
That all good done will be in vain?
That all of these complex systems were just a rare chance that developed gradually over the billions of years?
Probably yes, it's an annoying thought to think that nothing matters.
But there's nothing that says it isn't true, or is really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsdoVPpxSM
>>17577865
pretty much the only thing that survived the great flood of 22,000 years ago are the various religious texts of the world. Flick through any of them casually, they all mention God, judgement, etc.
>>17577397
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>>17577156
If I could have one wish it would be for that to be true. God I hope when its over its over.
>>17576664
Go look up Tom Canbell,on youtube,you've been loved by an elightened being
>>17579282
This is so fucking scary to me. After I read the post and thought about it for a second, I had a mild 5 second panic freeze or something. Damn.
>>17580050
We'll finally be free of all worry and fear, which is a heaven of sorts.
>>17580050
this happens to me every day multiple times a day for 10+ years
>>17577560
underrated
>>17576664
just like before you were born lad, enjoy life while you got it, not that you'll miss it, you'll be incapable of missing it
>but muh vision of heaven near death
there is a part of the brain dedicated to bullshitting you at death for a few minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoYCUtIRP30
>>17577156
Even "void and darkness" is still something, and therefore not nothing. Nothing is a concept which cannot be applied to consciousness, therefore consciousness cannot cease to exist.
>tfw born too early to explore the earth
>tfw born too soon to explore the galaxy
i'm really eager to know what happens after we die but i don't wanna commit a suicide. god damn it.
>>17582843
>Nothing is a concept which cannot be applied to consciousness, therefore consciousness cannot cease to exist.
How do you make this massive jump?
I mean you can apply it to before you were born anyways.
>>17582843
That's like saying darkness is a state of light, when it describes the absence of light.
0 is a number but its value is nothing.
unconsciousness with no return(death) is the state of when consciousness is absent and ceases to exist(ever come back). Though you can never be sure unless you try it yourself.
>>17582855
>tfw born just in time to browse some dank memes
>>17577436
Amongst Muslims it is understood that Heaven cannot be perceived literally. Muhammad himself perceived Heaven as a place of eternal shade where people lay on pillows and cushions, everyone wore the finest green silk and silver jewellery and where everyone would be served by beautiful handmaidens and servants.
Looking back at this Muslim scholars have argued that Heaven is a place of joy and beauty. Since the human mind could not possibly fathom heaven, the closest way it could be conceived was through things that people knew and could relate to. For Muhammad it was a place where one could escape the harsh sun and where people wore green (his favourite colour) silk because this would be the closest he would come to explain it both to himself and his followers.
>>17576664
World goes on
without you
>>17583348
>Amongst Muslims it is understood that Heaven cannot be perceived literally.
das pretty convenient mang
>>17580634
>there is a part of the brain dedicated to bullshitting you at death for a few minutes
What part is that?
>>17576664
The same as before life, nothing.
First i teabag you in a very classy way, then you go in the coffin. after that i dont really know
>>17583499
then you respawn amirite?
>>17577369
Anime??
When you die, the construct which is "you" ceases to exist. You stop being an individual and are instead accepted into the living force. "You" cease to exist, but you experience the monistic entity wholly and come to understand that the life you knew was an illusion.
May the force be with you. It's a long, strange trip.
>>17577623
you just explained it you fucking retard
>>17583871
One of my favorites
>>17583874
My first favorite
>>17583433
I think the anon is bullshitting but If I'm not mistaken the brain releases a shitload of dopamine before you die, so you go to the other side relativelty peacefully
>>17583851
That's not a very good conception of purgatory. Purgatory is supposed to be like a prison sentence. Depending on what you did wrong, you do your time and then get out. I've never seen it described as anything like a giant room of nothingness forever, although some negative NDEs have apparently been like that.
If you believe the NDE research, it seems like the reality is some combination of >>17583855
and >>17583871. People who have had an NDE often say the place they went to felt more real than Earth, and Earth feels like a dream in comparison. The consensus also seems to be that we've all had many past lives and will have many future lives, and we keep reincarnating to have different experiences.
Basically, physical life is kind of like a simulation, with our full memories suppressed to make it work. When we die, we "wake up" from that, remember who we really are and where we really came from, and then decide the details of our next reincarnation.
>>17583906
The existence of negative NDEs would seem to contradict that. They're less common than positive NDEs, but they're not exceedingly rare either.
>>17583900
>tfw my ancestores watched me wacking it
>>17583913
Well, now that all of them have been posted, I'll have to amend this post a bit to add that >>17583910 is apparently also true. Supposedly we all have groups of people we frequently reincarnate with, and we switch the roles around to make it interesting. It does get a little uncomfortable when you hear about things like being someones spouse in one life and their sibling or parent in another.
>>17583900
I have to admit that I've always thought the whole idea of "living on through your children" or "living on through the memories of others" was pretty ridiculous. Of course, the version of it in that pic is a bit more literal about it.
>>17576664
There's not after, my dude.
Perception of time; gone.
>>17583937
Maybe they compare your style as well.
>>17583913
I didn't have a NDE, but I had a very strong salvia trip that reminds me of this. I was part of some kaleidoscopic wheel spinning through space. Every moment I lived up to that point was just a dream and I was always part of this wheel spinning through space. I distinctly remember trying to break free of this wheel, but I kept being pulled back into it by what I assume were other souls. I felt like I was there for an eternity. When I returned to reality, my friends said that I became primal in my movements and was acting like a scared animal. They also said that they could see no ounce of me in my eyes. Needless to say, I haven't done salvia since.
>>17576664
This website might go toward answering your question. has thousands firsthand accounts of near death experiences, i.e., people who claim to have been clinically dead for a time and were brought back. http://nderf.org/
>>17583748
there is not single you when you die, there are literally an infinite of you's experiencing all possible experiences at the same time, each unrelated to one and another. Or, there is a purpose behind all of this and a single you experiences what it is. Depending on whether science or religion is right, hard to tell for a single you, which is right, after death either way.
>>17576664
Exactly what the bible says happens. Maybe read it.
>>17577163
I hate this argument. Its so fucking dumb. I didnt live a life before i was born obviously, i didnt have a family, i didnt have memories, i didnt experience love. So this whole "its just blackness bro, lol im not even scared of it" is just stupid. Im not afraid of dying, im afraid of losing the ability to see the ones i love.
I think this is something we just cannot understand in this state even if someone or something from the "other world" would actually try to explain it to us. Many reanimated say that after death and whilst travelling through this light tunnel they have absolute clarity on things, everything makes perfect sense to them, but the moment they are back its forgotten again. Just thinking of who created the creator and the pure insanity of just nothing being there before the big bang or whatever happened fucks my brain. I cannot handle the thought. Maybe once dead things really make sense.
>>17584223
The Bible isn't real.... The Egyptian book of the dead however.....
>>17576867
Dustin didndu nuffin
>>17577939
They are coming for you. You can't hide.
>>17580428
Dude weed
>>17584302
"I've seen the mummy"
>>17579254
what does /x/ think of this
Just got through reading... very interesting
>>17576664
>2016
Not knowing death is an illusion
>>17584403
You mean "I've seen the mummy" the post.
Haha.
But you'll all be wishing you hadn't fallen in love with Jesus when ra and Anubis show up.
>>17583950
This. During a trip on sass with my girlfriend, I had this exact experience. I was able to see an additional reality overlayed on this and experienced my essence and those of my closest friends and family as a constellation of stars. I never heard it put into words before, but I knew our connection to be eternal or at the very least much older than our current lives. This reality was unbounded from normal conscious life, yet intimately connected. It was more far more real than waking onsciousness and made this life appear as a projection or a shadow. Also my Jimi Hendrix Axis poster turned into the single blue face of Shiva. Honestly one of the best trips/experiences of my life.
I've spent 15 minutes reading this thread and I'm having a severe panic attack for the first time in my life.
>>17584832
Every time I smoke Dmt, I get the distinct feeling and emotions as in the pic you also linked, that everyone was in on it.
But what's more alarming is the realisation that you're them and they're you. So I will come out of a d,t trip with my wife saying to me everything is ok, but I know it's really me saying it.
It's a crazy thing, this existence
>>17576664
Basically from what I have experienced from Dmt . Not only once, I'm talking years of going into this.
When you die, you remember. This is the best way I can explain it.
What you remember is impossible to explain. And I'm not trying to sound mystical, it's really bizarre.
The place where you go or are, it's an internal thing, not external.
>>17584861
Then stop reading into this shit. There is a reason why most philosophers go crazy.
The truth is, to much to comprehend while in the human state.
>>17584832
>I never heard it put into words before, but I knew our connection to be eternal or at the very least much older than our current lives.
If you're looking for the right words so you can search for more information on this, apparently the proper term is "soul group".
>>17577560
holy kek
I think it would be the same as before you were born, not blackness or nothingness because you would need a conscious to perceive blackness or nothingness. There would be no worries no regrets, nothing.
>>17584969
What is it with you people and not understanding that "Nothing" isn't a thing.
Literally, nothing is a word, there can never be a time when something is not.
There is this thing, we call it experience, what is experiencing CAN NOT CEASE TO EXPERIENCE
>>17584227
>I didnt live a life before i was born obviously
>Yeah and you won't after you're dead either
>>17579254
I wonder what the odds of him being right are. It makes sense to me.
>>17579254
Promoting duality.
>into the trash
>>17576664
That's the wrong question.
A better question would be: "What really happens to "me" before birth?"
But the real questions are more like this:
"Why does anything exist in the first place?"
"If I'm "aware", but everything existed before anyone was "aware", is "awareness" meaningless?"
We're only "aware" of a tiny slice of a tiny bubble of things.
Yet even if something becomes "aware" of everything, they'd only realize that "awareness" was as nothing compared to what comes next."
Here's your (pseudo intellectual bullshit fresh out of the oven), OP
>>17577156
It's not a question of existing or not existing. That's your ego speaking.
It's a question of being alive and not being alive.
The difference? Nothing stops existing, they just change. That's like one of the fundamental truths of the universe. I don't see why consciousness is a special snowflake.
I cannot tell you but I can tell you this..
!!! DO NOT GO INTO THE LIGHT !!!
>>17583062
So try it and see.
>>17583062
0 will never equal to something.
You're forgetting that you came from this supposed "0" state.
>>17583874
this is one i think about the most, and it may bet the most terrifying. my life isn't awful, but it's had some awful moments and my life would be exponentially better if not for a few mistakes.
i would love to live this life over again if i make different choices the next time.. but if i have to live this exact life over and over again, that's going to fucking suck.
>>17584277
No beginning and no end. Time is a construct of the biological brain. Nothing was created, its just always been there.
>>17577865
Reality.
No one really knows let's face it, i believe in an after life and god but the most i can do is hope that there is one if there isn't, then it doesn't matter anyway.
>>17577156
nonexistence sounds good no more thinking, feeling and suffering everyday
>>17585164
>It's not a question of existing or not existing. That's your ego speaking.
You know, I see talk like this fairly often, and frankly, I'm getting sick of it. What's so fucking bad about having an ego? Honestly, it seems like most people who criticize others for having an ego are only doing it so they can boast about how they don't have such an ego. Of course, claiming you're above such things is itself a method of boosting one's own ego.
>>17585464
>What's so fucking bad about having an ego?
He's not you. Don't confuse yourself with "him".
>>17577240
well said
>>17577252
top kek
>>17577156
All of that can only be perceived by the living though
>>17576664
Here's my advice.
Google "Boltzmann brain" and after you think you've got a good grasp on it, realize that it's just a thought experiment similar to Schrodinger's Cat.
Then sit back and have a long pull of whatever drug of choice is nearby and close your eyes.
While focusing on the maybe and what if scenarios of post-life, you're losing out on the here and now.
Don't live every moment like it's your last, because it's just as likely to not be.
What Happens Next is a great thought experiment, but nothing more than that until it happens.
If you're worrying about how you should live your life now because of what's going to happen after, you're doing it wrong. If you're going to be a good person, you should be good because that's who you are. If you going to be an irritating cuntbag, then be a total pile of shit because that's who you are. Quit worrying about who you're supposed to impress on the other side and just be yourself here and now. Whoever or Whatever is in charge after will respect you more for that than anything else.
Take it or leave it.
Shitcock
>>17585585
twinkie house!
>>17583906
Your brain actually uses up a bunch of DMT when you you are experiencing death/close to death experience. DMT is a naturally occuring chemical in the brains of most animals, though humans seem to store much more of it then other creatures on this planet. This is incredibly interesting to me because it begs the question: Why have we evolved as a species to naturally store up DMT in our brains? DMT is also released in deep sleep, also known as REM (Rapid Eye Movement Sleep), so basically when people experience near death experiences and talk about seeing light/god or just crazy colours and sounds, its because of the DMT being released, to probably calm you down before your body shuts all youre organs down one at a time.
Stuff like this makes me want to be a brain surgeon but im too stoopid.
>>17585665
I'm pretty sure the DMT theory has been debunked.
>>17585677
Nope, look up dreaming/REM sleep cycles, and the releasing of chemicals in your brain. Remember dreaming feels very real until you wake up, so perhaps death is actually waking up itself, we are all just waiting for the dream to end and for reality to begin.
>>17585677
>I'm pretty sure the DMT theory has been debunked.
No mate sorry, scientists actually stopped any further study's because they can't understand it.
Its not debunked
>>17576664
Anybody that followed jesus gets to burn in boiling dog sperm mixed with down syndrome person sperm.
DO NOT OBEY him.
>>17583932
Top posts man.
>>17584387
Hurr duurr constipation theriory
>>17584227
>im afraid of losing the ability to see the ones i love
Get over yourself.
>>17586177
why is that your advice? is it wrong to fear for loss of loved ones and the ability to experience? Is it bad to want to not die, prolong consciousness , and live in harmony with those that you love? What's so wrong about that? What if there could be heaven on earth?
Not him btw.
>>17576664
Respawn at the last bonfire
You were born from nothing, will die into nothing, and be born again as something else. It's not like reincarnation, or really anything that's described in religious texts. It's like changing the channel on a television. This isn't the first time you've experienced "life" as something, and until the entire universe disappears forever with everything in it (it won't) you will keep doing it.
You die and everything goes black... for a while. Then you re-emerge, but remember nothing of how things were previously.
>>17582855
Exploring the Earth and exploring the galaxy are ideas which would benefit the human civilization, but not necessarily yourself as an individual. There is certainly another meaning to your life - that of self-growth and experience. Since it is a very intimate meaning, noone can restrict you from it, no matter what time you were born in or what intelligence you possess.
It is also the existence of this intimate meaning to life that makes nihilistic views of death and afterlife seem implausible. What use is self-growth, experience, knowledge, etc. if it cannot be retained? If there is truly no existence beyond this flawed life, then why go on? For the sake of future generations of mankind which will progressively get further and further lost without something to hope for? I don't think so.
>>17586181
>Is it bad to want to not die, prolong consciousness , and live in harmony with those that you love?
I've encountered more than a few atheists who actually do think it's bad to want those things. They call it "arrogant" or "childish" or something.
>>17579514
You need a lot more than twenty to die, Gaylord. you just had a weird dream
>>17583868
this thing during the episode of spongebob... where squidwards was stock in a dimension of a giant room alone with his voice ugh.
>>17583871
like in the matrix mmhhm...
>>17583874
in Mr. Nobody where Nemo is not touched by the Angel of Oblivion that's why he remembers everything ...
>>17583917
the pic reminds me of human centipede cringe...
>>17586863
Im pretty sure they have sad lifes and want everything to end as soon as possible and hate everything and everyone around them.
Because i dont see any other reason to be that much of a KUNT towards other people.
>>17576664
Your physical body degrades. Your soul perishes.
You wait, similar to being in a deep, unconscious sleep, for the return of Jesus and Judgement Day. From there you are either resurrected to join the Creator in eternal glory in the Kingdom of Heaven, or you are sent to Hell (nonexistence) and are wiped out from ever existing (the ultimate punishment).
>>17576666
>>17586935
Not even. I'm betting "sleeping pills" means diphenhydramine so that's between 700 and 1400 MG, well within the _recreational_ dosage.
Kid was tripping balls lawl
Death:
>You spend the day feeling like you're dreaming, wondering if today is the day.
>Your friends and family call your name in your head. It sounds like they're right behind you.
>You tell yourself "Live in the moment. Take in this day. You'll be just fine."
>You want to do your favorite things, but energy eludes you. But you still feel at peace, you smile and picture yourself at your best.
>A few hours go by and you start to feel tired, you think "I could use a nap." And smile to yourself.
>You get in bed and pull the covers over you, it's awfully chilly for a summer evening.
>Your breath becomes deeper, more erratic.
>You sigh.
>"I guess this is it."
>A man walks into the room and sits at the foot of your bed. You've seen this man before, maybe in your dreams. He seems friendly. He doesn't speak.
>"Hello!" You greet the man. "Long time no see."
>He smiles amicably, nods, and slowly rests his hand on your hand.
>You feel light. A warm vibration consumes you. Everything looks brighter, the room starts to shake.
>A spiraling flower forms in your field of view. It contorts and dances for you.
>The man lifts your hand and grips it in yours. "Breathe deeply" he says. "You're going to do just fine."
>The walls of your house fall down, the sky rips open. Your bed vanishes. You are in free fall.
>You're hyper ventilating. Each breath feels like new life. You take one long deep breathe, and close your eyes. You feel content, relaxed, and joyous.
>You don't recall who you are, what you look like, where you are from. But you feel right at home.
>You slowly descend into a pool of warm water. The sky is black, the clouds are glowing. Long lines of light pulsate around you. You float down a river bordered by massive trees of lightning. Four giants appear beside you and lift you up.
>You've met them before. they greet you like an old friend, a caretaker, a son, and a lover.
>"Good to have you back, was it fun?"
>>17576664
No one alive really knows for sure, and anyone who claims to know is a filthy fucking liar and NOT to be trusted.
Death:
>You spend the day feeling like you're dreaming, wondering if today is the day.
>Your friends and family call your name in your head. It sounds like they're right behind you.
>You tell yourself "Live in the moment. Take in this day. You'll be just fine."
>You want to do your favorite things, but energy eludes you. But you still feel at peace, you smile and picture yourself at your best.
>A few hours go by and you start to feel tired, you think "I could use a nap." And smile to yourself.
>You get in bed and pull the covers over you, it's awfully chilly for a summer evening.
>Your breath becomes deeper, more erratic.
>You sigh.
>"I guess this is it."
>A man walks into the room and sits at the foot of your bed. You've seen this man before, maybe in your dreams. He seems friendly. He doesn't speak.
>"Hello!" You greet the man. "Long time no see."
>He smiles amicably, nods, and slowly rests his hand on your hand.
>You feel light. A warm vibration consumes you. Everything looks brighter, the room starts to shake.
>A spiraling flower forms in your field of view. It contorts and dances for you.
>The man lifts your hand and grips it in his. "Breathe deeply" he says. "You're going to do just fine."
>The walls of your house fall down, the sky rips open. Your bed vanishes. You are in free fall.
>You're hyper ventilating. Each breath feels like new life. You take one long deep breathe, and close your eyes. You feel content, relaxed, and joyous.
>You don't recall who you are, what you look like, where you are from. But you feel right at home.
>You slowly descend into a pool of warm water. The sky is black, the clouds are glowing. Long lines of light pulsate around you. You float down a river bordered by massive trees of lightning. Four giants appear beside you and lift you up.
>You've met them before. they greet you like an old friend, a caretaker, a son, and a lover.
>"Good to have you back, was it fun?"
>>17586280
I am starting to grasp this idea. However, my main question is, what or who determines what type of life you will live next?
>>17589727
Nothing. It's random, or very hard to predict rather. There's no way we could know. The most generous and kind person could get reborn as a suffering human in an African slum, or as an alien warthog thing 3 trillion lightyears away from earth a billion years later.
>>17589737
Interesting. Always wondered to myself, why am I the lucky one on Earth to live in a safe country, instead of being raised in say Somalia.
>>17589748
Pure chance, so honestly I wouldn't think too much about it. It'll make you insane.
There's no reason for anything in this universe, a lot of stuff just happens. There's a point where you simply should stop trying to comprehend it, because right now we're not really in a place to do so.
>>17589750
One more question.
Morals.
Good and evil. I understand there has to be one for there to be there other, but according to what you are saying, doing good or bad will not determine your afterlife.
So... why? Why have this illusion of free will to do good or bad when in the end it doesn't matter?
>>17589758
Doing good is more satisfying to the soul, as unless we have suffered terribly during development, we generally are good natured and like to see people happy.
It makes our time here on Earth much more pleasant. Being strict and pious is taking it too far, but being evil and murdering.torturing/raping etc is also taking it too far in the other direction.
Doing what you can to help people and make them happy makes you happy in the long run. You make the world a better place for others, and maybe others will follow your example and do the same for you in your time of need.
>>17589758
Not him. But it's funny to notice that the things we naturally consider "good" are exactly those things which are necessary for a community to function. Right?
That's probably because, as beings that were always intimately involved in (and dependent upon!) social groups throughout our entire evolution it's engrained into our brains instinctually to do good by your social group. That's why we view things like murdering and stealing as "wrong".
There is no absolute universal concept of right and wrong.
>>17589790
This is what I have been coming to the conclusion of.
Morals, right and wrong, are highly based on your perspective of life.
Something I do, say drink a beer, could be seen as evil in Islam.
Perspective... I suppose.
Here, this shoul be scientific and mystic enough for anyone to understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXSHl78vFpM
>>17577560
upvoted this
>>17577163
>Filename
Oh, I hope for humanities sake that Bernie wins.
>>17577127
This.
>>17584227
Are you fucking stupid? You won't be able to experience the loss of the ability to see the ones you love. You will lose the ability to experience anything. There will be no feeling of loss, there will simply be nothing. You will be gone and there will be no way you can have any feelings about being gone because you will be incapable of feeling in any way, shape or form afterwards. You stupid fuck.
>>17577347
P L E A S E
>>17592583
Show us some proof of these assumptions. Have you died?
>>17577347
>waifu(s)
Having more than one is a sin, and will land you in hell where you'd be forced to watch them have their way with other men while laughing at you. (unless you're into that, like me, in which case you'll just be tortured instead. Good thing I only have 1 waifu though)
>>17594074
Not him, but when you fall asleep without dreaming it appears that hours pass by instantly. I think that can count as evidence.
It also just doesn't make intuitive sense at all that you'd be able to experience nothingness. Your experience itself is something. So that's something that exists in what you're trying to call absolute nothingness.
>>17585665
What if you have an instant death like a motorcycle crash or something
I've always believed theres levels you go to when you die, and you get put firstly depending on how you behaved in life. But you can work your way up.
>>17576666
>satan quads
>joker gif
>edgy one-liner
holy SHIT, anon
>>17585665
>>17585735
There is zero evidence backing up any claims that say DMT is released in the body at all. Check your facts and don't believe every pretty astral picure you see on the internet.
It's merely a theory as to why we hallucinate before we die.
>>17577623
What a contradictory post.
>>17590171
Full film?
I like this thread. This is what /x/ should be about IMO
>>17576664
We stop asking what really happens after death.
>>17594810
You should watch the full theory videos.
Search "Tom Campbell Calgary saturday" and watch all the videos. They're 2 hour videos, but it's a theory of everything. Meaning every aspect of reality is explained, including life after death.
DMT
>>17594834
Thanks. I actually read his book a while ago, interesting stuff
>>17583022
>I mean you can apply it to before you were born anyways.
Why do people still use this shit comparison? It doesn't work like that.
This is the first time I've legitimately enjoyed a thread on 4chan in a long time, good job you miserable assholes.
>>17595041
To add onto this, ceasing to exist is not the same as not existing. We were given life and death is to experience it being taken away. How can you compare that to never existing in the first place?
Two different experiences.
I want to be a spectator
Like a free cam in a video game so I can explore the earth and eventually the universe
>>17595065
You just want to look up girls skirts you sick fuck.
I like your style.
>>17592998
When I was in fifth grade I came to frightening conclusion that there's no evidence to suggest I wasn't in the level 1 of hell, that what made it hell was precisely the illusion that I wasn't there and that there was hope when there wasn't any.
It was already after I started thinking about suicide. I'd think, what if I kill myself and go to hell? Then I thought, what if I'm already there? It makes perfect sense. Why would I want to kill myself if I wasn't in hell?
It's over twenty years later and I've never fully recovered, Getting out of school and living independently really helped, though. Still I would rather die than ever go back. I would kill anyone who tried to take me back.
>>17576664
You go to heaven or hell depending on the judgment of our loving creator.
>>17583433
The entirety of the brain partakes in random jolts of activity during the last 30 seconds of "life" after the heart stops beating.
>>17577409
This idea freaks me the fuck out.
You go in to the "all" dimension and become karmic connection, with alignment of such based on the actions you have made in your life. Each action, no matter how small and insignificant, causes a ripple in the uni-verse(think music and frequencies - unified verses) These ripples made by your actions cause a butterfly effect with action and reaction. Energy cannot be destroyed, so these actions and reactions will simply transfer themselves from point to point and that will be your new body. You will be everywhere and anywhere, yet nowhere at the same time and will effectively become immortal because of your new form. You will meld with God, or otherwise known as "is" or "be" as the monks refer to it(even though the real God cannot be explained in any language as language has a definable form) and you will experience a certain type of heaven, hell or otherwise(whatever you are) based on the inherent energy type of your being.
After that, I don't know. But I know there is something else. There's always something else, no matter what it is. Infinity, after all...
>>17583910
I'd be pissed off
"I went through all that bs on earth for a party? where are my 72 husbandos?"
>>17583921
This is the shit that scares me. At least I can conceptualize hell..For the afterlife to be some endless LSD/DMT trip...just..please no
>>17584223
Watch Caesar's Messiah and come back and tell me the same thing.
>>17583166
nothing makes me more sad
>>17596584
that is my #1 dream
>>17576664
Do you remember anything before you remember something?
No?
That´s it.
>>17588959
I think the bulk of them are good people that feel a genuine sort of anguish when it comes to the moral imbalances of reality. That's always their first question to the invisible god they don't believe in "Why is there suffering if there's something other than what my eyes can see?" Any mention of it being a part of a greater scheme annoys them because they, of course can't ever hope to contemplate the reasoning of such a being so ( Which is what I find childish) they declare such possibilities illogical and silly.
It's either that or they feel fear towards the unknown and the notion that only the things we can see are real are sort of a proverbial comfort blanket.
I understand the atheist and what he is going through so I can't judge them really.
>>17596694
lol, time doesn't flow backwards.
At least... not yet.
>>17576664
You remember that time you were born? You probably didn't, in fact no one remembers the time they were born, we just woke up one day and we were alive.
Thats what happens, you wake up in your new life.
here is what the book of Revelation says about these numbers...
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
