Does anyone have any experience in lucid dreaming where they are able to, in a way, relive happy days of their childhood? Not even specific memories, per se.
Just miss being young and carefree. I'm an attorney by day, /x/ophile by night and I dont see a lot of my close and older friends anymore.
The thought occurred to me as I prepare for the week and an old song from my junior high days came on pandora. I then remembered, just last night, that I had a dream where I had acknowledged it was a dream, but I woke up not long after it.
>general lucid dreaming/time travel thread?
>>17570439
I've been having lucid dreams for some time and even after a lot of experience i can say it's really hard for me to fully control the dream. One thing is being lucid and doing stuff such as flying, other is to change the drream subject completely and re-modelating it to fit your desire. In that regard, I think it's really hard tp direct a dream to your childhood memories. I'm a teen so i never tried to do something like trying to relive child experiences and memories, but what i have done lots of times is just "summon" people i wanted tp see in my dreams, so I think this would be a good start for you OP. If you are lucid in a dream, try focusing on a person and he/she may appear. As for being lucid in a dream, i can't give an accurate answer because it's natural for me, but you should take a look at the FILD method, i've seen lots of ppl saying they have success with it.
Live your dreams, OP
>>17570517
>but you should take a look at the FILD method,
Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks.
What do you mean "natural for you?" Have you always been doing that?
There was only one time where I was able to control my dreams. It was probably a decade ago, back in high school. lol Most times I've been able to recognize I was in a dream (For example, last night), I didn't seem to care. "Oh this is a dream" and I continued with the theme of a dream like it was every day normal life. Then I woke up.
Did the last part make sense?
I sometimes have hypos when I sleep resulting in super crazy lucid dreams. Last night I climbed a hillside and investigated a cave. The floor of the cave was covered in blood. Apparently this was a mammoth that had been scraped along the ground by a glacier, this was my reasoning during my sleep. Completely mental.
>>17570563
ha. i've definitely had weird reasoning that totally made sense in the dream, but when i woke up, i was like "what the fuck."
>>17570439
I did it this morning, about 3 times. I also flew in one of them, just to get around. I'm a "chronic lucid dreamer"- I can't turn it off anymore. It's too easy to do, and too hard to stop.
Being awake is sometimes more novel than being under. Careful what you wish for.
So I've been able to lucid dream since I was a kid, it gets more hard depending on what you do and it's very sensitive to what you think. I think of not jumping too high because I'm scared of highs, next thing you know I'm jumping like 15 feet in the air. If you Want good things to happen just think of good things, but if you think about any negative things they will be sure to happen.
>>17570582
why can't i do both?
>>17570623
oh shit. i'm a horribly cynical most of the time, and quite negative others.
comes with the job, as i always say
>>17570641
Because it'll just turn into a world of fantasy for you... most likely. Maybe it won't. You'll either long for being asleep such that you seldom are awake, or you'll strive for the regularity, persistence, and unpredictability in the real world that your dreams begin to emulate just that.
And it's easy to question whether you've woken up, after having had several false awakenings, each one ended by over-excitement. But I guarantee that after almost a decades' worth of exploring the possibilities, making every minute detail fickle... you're going to realize something quite awful. Even if it becomes rather easy to tell the two apart, they won't seem any different. I have spent so much (perceived) time learning things I've previously learned, reading things I've previously read, and constantly living through every aspect of my life. Every moment. Even moments where I was never present to begin with, and that's as far as I ever seem to be able to go with being a backseat driver. I have done everything I have ever wanted, thus far.
Everything.
Dreaming has gotten old. I have been doing this since I was 4. It has never stopped. I'm 20 now. I'll often catch myself just taking pleasure in holding an object in my hand and studying every aspect of it, because it seems like one of the only moments, in what I still know to be waking life, that things aren't as I want them. Even still, it all often looks like what I see/can see when I'm asleep.
But if you do find yourself in that predicament, and make it past that hurdle, my hat is off to you. You'll just do both, full stop.
>>17570710
That sounds like fair notice. Though to be fair, I spend a vast part of my day not really "living" it anyways, just work. Work, work, and more work. You mentioned you're 20, and you're presumably in college, but withstanding only extreme circumstances, you'll never have as much free time as you do now. (my old guy rant, even though I'm only 27 lol). What i'm trying to say is that maybe these drawbacks will disappear when your life is moving quicker.
> Even moments where I was never present to begin with, and that's as far as I ever seem to be able to go with being a backseat driver. I have done everything I have ever wanted, thus far.
Can you elaborate more on this? From what it sounded like, it is possible to dream and "live" in past years of my life.
I dont know if it is relevant, but I rarely remember my dreams anyways.
>>17570439
I hope you are able to make your wish come true.
>>17570750
Extreme circumstances be I. My life is on the fast track already. Job, credit score, post-secondary work, studying of material, conviction and pursuit of "dream aspirations", keeping tabs of world events as they develop, keeping track of what I've done so far, answering to the beck and call of my superiors and my peers, worrying about/trying to manage the particulars of the lives of others as I interact with them (while they fail to do so themselves).... It doesn't help that I have a strong imagination, and a great memory that I sometimes abuse so that I can find a moment of serenity. Or Synesthesia. I will never know what "real" silence sounds like, unless you completely remove any and every array of neurons and axons that deal with ocular sensory experience, or poke my brain a couple times with a stick.
It's not great. I never miss a beat. If anything, come my being 30 years old, it will get worse. I will know how many times I have struck a keyboard to finish reviewing the mock-up for the control-systems presentation being presented to A or B company (on Tuesday).
>>17570911
>>17570750
>elaborate more
What I mean is, for example, walking around in 1994. The 1994 you probably remember, and were there for. I often wake up and check what I've written down (at this point, what I remember) with that of records. It's often on point. But, I was never there, so anything I do in such a setting is tantamount to a fantasy than a mere imitation of reality (even though it may as well be a recounting of the memories of others).
If I could explain the notion in a less contrived way, it would be like this:
>I am not all parts of my self when I am awake
When dreaming, I am the total sum of all my parts. As if all quantifiable qualia that my brain has a grip on can freely overlap. Anything I know, anything I think, have thought, or will think, is. Tables, Cars, Weather, Grass, Trees, People, Physical "rules" (which often never deviate), even the inner musings of the alleged inner narrative that we have when we are awake... On a very discernible level, I seem to be intuitively part of that process. But, I also seem to be the "actor". I can't (have never been able to) prevent that from happening, so usually I'm left going about my dreams with that sort of dual realization.
As if the moment you are experiencing here, now, was just another dream. That, for me, is always the subtext of the experience.
So, now you're going to go catch the bus while some girl plays "Shiny Happy People" loud enough so that everyone can hear it. Or, you shake hands with Reagan. Maybe you're watching Apollo 13's re-entry. Maybe you listen to Hitler give his speech, as you're closing your China shop. Maybe you manage to flag down Marx and have him try to explain why your business is bad for the people.
Maybe you've just beaten a man to death with a rock, so that you could take his place in the tribe. Maybe you were just beaten to near death with a rock. Maybe, you're just a butterfly, sucking the sweat of a human through your proboscis.
>>17570439
It sounds interesting OP. Good luck
>>17570517
How did you have lucid dreams?
>>17570915
That sounds intense (especially after reading your previous post).
However, if I were to have a dream where I was walking around the 1950s, wouldn't it be pretty accurate? I clearly wasn't alive around then, but I know enough about the time period, seen enough movies, etc to recreate a 1950s era setting in my dream?
Speaking of 1950s, that sounds like a cool time to visit. I'm thinking of hitting the sack soon. I don't suppose theres quick tips to try to induce lucid dreaming, or at least, remember my dreams?
>>17570965
>wouldn't it be pretty accurate
More or less, yeah. The level of immersion depends on what your subconscious is privy to... so, for example, taking an interest in Bobby Vinton will probably mean that you'll probably bump into him.
Besides the FILD or the WILD or whatever you choose to attempt, immersion is a great way to prime your lucid dreams with little effort- whether that means studying an image for a good period of time, or watching some sort of media enough that you can recount most of it without having it in front of you. Chemical dependency is temporary, and often does more damage than good according to most.
Try to start small, so you don't excite yourself so much that you wake immediately after being lucid. Know what you want to do. On top of that, begin to form some sort of habitual act that serves as a "reality check"- it will better train yourself to be more self-aware. Beyond that, keep a dream journal.
Sounds silly, but it will strike you as remarkable when you either seldom forget your dreams, or have clear records of them to browse. When you can re-integrate where you've "already been", with where you've "never gone before".
Or, you wander aimlessly between worlds.
>>17570545
I've always had LD since i was ~6yo, but i only learned what LD really was with ~14yo, so yea, it's natural in that sense for me.
As for you, i think it's really up to you the way you react to a dream. Everytime I know i'm dreaming i try to change some stuff just for the sake of it, but some people just have different mentalities.
>>17570517
have you not experienced a blank canvas lucid dream yet?
>>17570439
In the words of WSB, "a degree of junk sickness never fails to bring back the magic of childhood...drinking a cold Whistle on a summer evening...I wonder if every junky scores for this wonderful stuff?"
First you need a heroin habit though, so not something I'd recommend....
>>17571884
no, i always am lucid in dreams that already have a subject and i only change small/medium stuff, not the entire dream.
my only lucid dreaming experience is entering a dream allready happening, no "absolute controll" but i do controlll myself, on a kind of autopilot way, like the dreams there i can see and experience it but i feel as its cause and effect, something happens where i can make a choice,
sometimes its like im watching with no controll, like last night, a 6 yr old was trying to suduce me and ended up sitting on my face, when it was over i went to get a drink, from kitchen in next room, her mum was there and i made the choice to say, "your daughter was trying to seduce me when i was trying to sleep"
dreams are weird
>>17572143
You can have a pain killer addiction too!!
>>17570439
Hey man, I sympathize. I'm only in my mid twenties, but I have a similar longing to relive being in my teens or younger, for that same feeling you're chasing.
Lucid dreams are hit or miss. If you happen to dream about an old friend or being younger or something, it gets easier once you're lucid to enjoy it. But you have to hope that 1) you enter a dream that's somewhat similar already -in some way - because it takes *alot* to rework an entire dream. You're more likely to wake yourself up than anything. 2) you gotta hope, especially being an /x/ophile, that negative thoughts and emotions don't creep up while you're going through it and corrupt it. Too many times I've had otherwise successes turn into nightmares.
The closest I've ever gotten, is taking a dissociative, say DXM 2nd/3rd plateau, and suffocating myself with nostalgia before and during. Music photos anything. It'll consume a day, but it'll be a good day. But again, bad thoughts - sadness, regret, anger, etc - can corrupt the experience.
God speed friend.
>>17572517
Glad to see a like minded person here. How is your life going?
So I had a vivid dream last night. I wouldn't call it a lucid dream, but I was in control of my personal actions, but I wasn't aware it was a dream. It was kinda fucked up. I was at some fucked up rave in a dungeon like club. I realized I had to file this brief at court so I guess I flew a plane there? I was flying a plane while also writing my brief. I remembered that my writing was all jumbled and not english and all over the page. In the dream, I attributed it to the rocky flight.
Then the plane's wing fell off. I had a parachute, but I remember not being able to jump out (or at least not wanting to) because the plan was doing barrel rolls. So I grabbed the plane's controls and pulled up to lessen impact. I survived the crash, grabbed my brief, and ran out yelling to people that I was fine.
I'm aware it was a physical impossibility now, but at the time, I didn't question it. I took the previous anon's advice and wrote some of it down, but not soon enough to remember the details.
At least I remembered something though.
>>17572543
I feel like I can't read anything in dreams too. I wonder why that is.
Bump for potential
>>17574069
It's because you're illiterate
>>17575473
top kek
Does anyone have any tips on how to increase your chances of having vivid/lucid dreams?
>>17576642
>>17576642
curious about this too
>>17576655
One technique thats worked somewhat for me is to set an alarm for a couple hours before I actually get up, when I get woken up by It turn it off and try to go back to sleep.
9/10 times I've had vivid dreams and 3-4 have been lucid
don't know why its worked, maybe just coincidence
I often get lucid or highly vivid dreams and it actually gets annoying. Seriously it's often like "oh fuck I'm in a dream again". I would prefer to just sleep normally.
>>17576673
Why?
>>17576670
Doesn't that kinda fuck with your quality of rest?
>>17576670
That works for me too. It would happen when I was younger and I would get up at 5am to do homework for the following day then go back to sleep for an hour or so. Cause I was a teenager it usually turned into a lucid sex dream.
>>17576695
how did getting fucked in the ass felt in your dream compared to real life?
>>17576683
I only do it on weekends when I can get up later
>>17576699
>>17576695
I can relate, as soon as I know im dreaming I try to have sex but the person always turns into trippy monster and I wake up from being unable to penetrate kek
>>17576700
im temtped to try this tonight anyways.
>>17576683
As I said it's annoying. I would really rather just sleep than be stuck in some weird dream that I know isn't real. You can't just turn lucid dreams on and off, they happen whether you want them or not just like regular dreams.
>>17576712
i guess the grass is always greener on the other side eh? I just think it would be nice to be aware in my dreams. Not necessarily lucid in the sense of buiilding a world, ya know?
>>17576712
Man you must have an amazing life to not have fun in lucid dreams
>>17576709
It might work better if you stay awake for a little bit, not sure, experiment
>>17576752
Perhaps I'm not having truly lucid dreams. It's not just a sandbox where you can start conjuring dinosaurs and porn stars. There is always some random element to it that you're not fully in control of and if you stop concentrating you lose all control. That's my experience anyway...
>>17576699
Hahahaha
>>17576833
>There is always some random element to it that you're not fully in control of and if you stop concentrating you lose all control
Lucky, lucky.
Imagine not having that random element of control.
>>17579615
what do you mean?
>>17579630
As in, not being able to relax or have a "natural dream", in the same way you are awake right now and have no influence on the temperature outside just by thinking about it (or even being constantly aware that it is "cold" or "warm" outside).
It's not something you want to go without... I'm kind of repeating myself, though, so I kind of want to stop doing that in this thread.
>>17579648
then get new material or be clear the first time
Or tell us a story
>>17579657
>then get new material or be clear the first time
>be clear
>about lucid dreaming
>dreaming
Alright then, I'll fuck right off.
>>17579670
>being this bitchy
>>17570439
Learn to meditate,
>>17579707
Meditate =\= lucid dreaming.
This thread dead?
>>17584142
I'm still here.
I'm desperate. I'm almost sure it doesn't exist so I'm asking here.
I'm looking for a document that was circulating the web. it was about "The door of X" or something. It was a study about how many dreamers have this same exact dream, and it goes as follows
>Dreamer wakes up in home, usually alone
>Dreamer instantly knows that there is a door somewhere in the home that the dreamer has not opened
>Tries to find it, it's usually hidden
>The door might be locked
>If it is, the dreamer almost magically has the key on their person somehow
>Through the door and down the stairs
>At the bottom of the stairs there's usually some childhood object of significance to the dreamer
>However the dreamer becomes aware of the objects hostility towards the dreamer, and feels a sinister malevolence coming from the object
>In some cases the object will attempt to communicate to the dreamer or entice the dreamer to pick it up
>In other cases the object will immediately try to harm the dreamer
PLEASE HELP ME, I'VE BEEN HUNTING FOR THIS FOREVER
Does any one know how to interpret dreams? I know that's not what this thread is about, but I want to lucid dream to stop/ talk to things happening in my recurring dreams.
The oldest recurring dream, I'm usually doing average things with friends or family ya know just talking and shit. Always in the background or just somewhere out of harms way I see a figure of human, but kinda smokey
All black and white dots for eyes. Never does anything, just watches what I'm doing. I know they are there and I know he knows about me and me knowing of it but still does nothing.
Dream2 I am with the same three friends in a grey cinder block type room like an interrogation room. There is a metal table we are on one side and across from us are two dudes all black clothes sunglasses slicked back hair. Now I don't say anything this whole time justmy friends talking, one of the guys turns to me and just shoots me in the face everything goes black but I hear my friends screaming and freaking out for what seems like 30 seconds then I always wake up.
Should I try to talk to these things/ people?
