The ocean holds about 50% of the species on Earth. Approximately 90% of the ocean is unmapped and 88% of species in the ocean are yet to be discovered.
It's not crazy to hypothesize that there are organisms larger than the Blue Whale in the ocean that we haven't encountered yet.
What does /x/ think of this? Anything hostile or friendly?
even if they were "hostile" it hardly matters. Anything with a physiology intended to survive at the depth these things must operate, would never survive coming to the surface. Also if they are really that big it begs the question, what in the fuck do they eat?
>>17432144
How can you estimate the amount of unknown species in the ocean?
I am not saying it can't be done. What is the methodology used?
m8 they would literally be their own worlds. blue whale is larger than any dinosaur or anything that's ever been discovered to exist on earth.
The largest species should be the ones farthest away from the center. This is because of weaker gravity, easier pumping of blood and movement. While gravity is "reduced" in water, it would be weakest at the surface and strongest near the core. So it just doesnt make sense to have such insanely large beasts living in locations with the strongest point of gravity, and if they do they would be weak and vurlnurable as shit. Also that deep down with no light the beasts would either have super hearing or sight. That means if one of those rose to near the surface of the ocean they would either go blind due to light sensativity or deaf due to sound sensativity.
For the most part, debunked.
But this is /x/ not /sci/ so.. inb4:
>assuming we know how gravity works
>assuming gravity is strongest at core
>assuming the core is a dhsbwjqjs hot fireball
OP picute is accurate though. Bigger beast closer to surface.
>>17432266
I think the difference in gravitional pull is pretty negligible between the surface and the deepest parts of the ocean.
>>17432266
shut up and take ur stupid science with u
It's not crazy to imagine the possibility of an animal larger than the Blue Whale existing somewhere in the depths.
It's a little crazy to assume one of them has "hostile" capabilities that would be considered note worthy. That makes it sound like some Godzilla-like creature that we should be afraid of.
If there is, it's probably some slow moving giant like a whale eating the smallest of the small down in the depths. Maybe even made up of multiple creatures working together, like a Man'O'War, or those hivemind humdingers that form the long wispy white tubes.
Nature is pretty good at preventing OP characters from popping up, you can't have BiS for all your gear.
Just me personally, I think if we ever find something giant down there, it's going to be a facepalm moment. Where we didn't realize we were looking at it for years, because we didn't even recognize it as a living thing. Like flat semi-transparent organisms that stretch for miles collecting marine snow, that just slowly move their way across the ocean floor.
>>17432266
deep-sea gigantism, google it
>>17432448
Those are some cool pictures of creatures not bigger than a Blue Whale alright.
This one creeps the shit out of me.
>We hypothesize that the shonisaurs were killed and carried to the site by an enormous Triassic cephalopod, a "kraken," with estimated length of approximately 30 m, twice that of the modern Colossal Squid Mesonychoteuthis. In this scenario, shonisaurs were ambushed by a Triassic kraken, drowned, and dumped on a midden like that of a modern octopus.
>The proposed Triassic kraken, which could have been the most intelligent invertebrate ever, arranged the vertebral discs in biserial patterns. The arranged vertebrae resemble the pattern of sucker discs on a cephalopod tentacle; thus the tessellated vertebral disc pavement may represent the earliest known self‑portrait.
>>17432536
Isn't this just a repost from another thread?
I'm not complaining, just observing?
>>17432192
God fucking damn it
>>17432536
Fuck man cephalopods are bros
Do you think there could be intelligent life in the oceans???
>>17433199
There already is, anon, just not what you're thinking.
>>17432200
estimation of the size of the ocean and the number of sea life we know about can help us make a guess at the amount we dont know. its not going to be 100% correct, but estimations are always possible.
>>17433199
yeah bro kaijus are pretty smart they eat nuclears and shittu
can fuck u up
>>17432144
To quote a previous thread, that's a big whale-shaped iceberg.
The unidentified sounds are almost certsinly icebergs / glaciers scraping around as they move. Giant squids are where it's at. They're actually real.
>>17432536
who is the We in that statement?
source??????
Cthulhu
>>17432536
lol what a dumb theory. The remains of 37 animals that are 40-60 ft long are found, and it would be impossible that 12 vertebrae fell in some sort of pattern. Lol, you're talking about hundreds if not thousands of bones all in the same area. Imagine you have 1000 quarters, u take these quarters and throw them up in the air, when they land, surely your mind will form some pattern in some spot of where they have landed. As for what was eating them.. now i can believe that, but to say they were creating artwork, thats just way to far-fetched.
>>17433596
It could also mean he was decorating the area for mates. Some invertebrate do that.
>>17433613
source?
>>17433613
there are 0 images on google, besides the only one they took from that article? why did they only take one picture? i too am curious where is a link that verifies that modern squids and octopi are doing this?
>>17432266
you do realise we're floating on a rock in infinite space and we're discovering new species every single day on this planet.
to go ahead and solidify your whole theory about the core and gravity is simply ignorant, small minded thinking. but hey, i'm on 4chan, what do I expect
>>17433629
you do realize that the species we're discovering every day, are all insects, in the amazon rain Forest. We aren't discovering gigantic animals. Thats why we aren't discovering bigfoot.
>>17432144
>The ocean holds about 50% of the species on Earth
Stopped reading there.
How do you know that that's what the source of the Bloop looks like?
>>17433633
dubs of truth, checked
>>17433629
you clearly dont understand the intricacies of water pressure.
>>17433622
>>17433627
guys some random kid on 4chan said it was so, he wouldn't make anything up. because no one on the internet just "makes things up." Its definitely real.
>>17433394
Story related
http://www.telelib.com/authors/W/WellsHerbertGeorge/prose/plattnerstory/abyss.html
>>17433653
fiction writer, definitely must be truthful.
>>17433662
It's a short story by Wells, never claimed it was true.
You need to be retarded to think it's not fiction
Have another one
http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/2872/
>>17432144
This i want to believe prop.
The deepest point is 4km
>>17433613
Male puffer fish do that, but I've never heard of invertebrates doing it.
Source: http://m.livescience.com/40132-underwater-mystery-circles.html
>>17433199
There will be once we have enough money to build a real life "Rapture."
>>17432536
"[T]he fact remains that journalists should have actually done their jobs rather than act as facilitators of hype. You don’t have to be a paleontologist to realize that there’s something fishy about claims that there was a giant, ichthyosaur-crunching squid when there is no body to be seen."
>>17433556
How did that thing not murder him?
>>17433556
>that's a big whale-shaped iceberg.
for you
>>17435127
Shilling for CIA conspiracy.
>>17432266
/thread
>>17433629
that filename
>>17432144
Why do you think bloop came from an animal?
>>17436230
Boy, did I ever claim that the "Bloop" is an animal!? I just uploaded a "Pic Related."
if there actually are big ass critters down there its most likely jellies
>low density to withstand pressure
>large surface area to absorb nutrients
>just does its shit and floats around
>>17432144
I dont think there is anything bigger than whales but i bet there are prehistoric dino fish down there
>>17436428
I'd be down with that. I love jellies.
>>17436428
Pic related
>>17433629
>infinite space
stoped reading there
>>17432536
You believe everything you read on 4chan...
http://www.wired.com/2011/10/the-giant-prehistoric-squid-that-ate-common-sense/
"There is no direct evidence for the existence of the animal the McMenamins call “the kraken.” No exceptionally preserved body, no fossilized tentacle hooks, no beak — nothing. The McMenamins’ entire case is based on peculiar inferences about the site. "
>>17433653
>>17437599
Do you believe there is a wall at the end of the universe, you cucklet?
>>17432167
Nigga blue whales are fucking huge and survive entirely on krill and there's plenty of it for something even bigger.
>>17438121
Well space is constantly expanding BUT there is a finite amount of black matter (probably)... when that runs out who knows what'll happen.
>>17438121
>>17438273
>thinking no boundary means infinite
http://www.lfrieling.com/our-finite-and-boundless-universe
>>17433199
Octopi are fucking smart bro, so yes, yes there is intelligent life in the ocean.
>>17432144
>Approximately 90% of the ocean is unmapped
Nigga I got google maps up and running. I've mapped 80% of it within 3 minutes already.
>>17438317
/thread
>>17433640
Total # documented species currently existing: ~1.9 million
Total # documented oceanic species: ~230,000
So about 1/8, or 12%. However,
estimated # total oceanic species: 1-10 million
estimated total # species currently existing: 10-14 million
So 50% could easily be correct. And if you consider total # of species to ever exist, and realize the majority of all life ever has lived in the ocean, the percentage skyrockets.
>>17438294
>the universe is finite
>it has no fixed end
>i know this because muh crippled mathwizz said so
What lies at the end?
And what lies beyond that?
If nothing lies beyond the end, it is not boundless; if there is something, even unobservable from our point of view, it is not finite.
"Universe" quite literally means "Everything" and multiple dimensions have no bearing on this; Everything is included in "Everything".
Furthermore, claiming to know what lies at the end of the universe because of some calculations made by what will in a century be seen as flimsy and primitive machines using data gathered from a vantage point in one single solar system within a galaxy so vast that most people would openly admit to feeling intimidated by the very thought of its sheer size is both haughty and moronic.
Sure, Hawkins is a smart guy, but so was Hippokrates and if he came along and started lecturing on people having too much black bile in their bodies today, he'd be turned into a meme before you could say popcorn.
Stop appealing to authority; Study and think for yourself instead.
tl;dr
The universe is far too large to be properly understood at this point. Just accept it yo
>>17438410
Did you even try to understand?
>What lies at the end?
What lies at the end of a sphere? THERE IS NO END - IT IS BOUNDLESS
>I don't understand, therefore no one does.
It isn't an appeal to authority, it's an explanation of the current physical model - the one that does a much better job than anything you can come up with to explain observed phenomena.
>>17438422
Are you making an effort at being a retard?
A sphere has an end, bud. And outside of that sphere there is something else.
A thousand years ago "DEUS VULT" was the "current physical model". Why should I pay lip service to the new one when it doesn't actually provice answers.
And no, I don't understand. Nobody else does either, for that matter.
Me not knowing doesn't cause the latter, however; I'm just intellectually honest unlike pseudo-scientific plebs such as you. : ^ )
>>17438449
Educate yourself, troll.
>>17438456
>oh shit i've tun out of others' arguments
>T-TROLL!
Oh, crap! You sure got me! : ^ )
>>17438473
You have no understanding of basic geometry and I have no desire to teach you, idiot.
The godking awoke three times, each into the eye of either a puma, or a marsupial. Worms were boring, but this time his works sewn released into physics, though Einstein even would not work out the sequesters of his transmutational vocations. John Dee that which Enoch bore, did some shit too, but the jackal loved to mostly usurp it. Hubbard just took all Elohim such malevolence and bore it into the sci-fi ponzi scheme of a century. Cash out.
When the equinox happened the gods realised that the humans had been awash in the styx long enough. Mnemosyne and Chronus were to allow them out of purgatory to where they now chose, based on their previous life tapestry. The left-right brain dissonance could be consciously realised, what was once macrocosm or microcosm was both fractal ouroborous at the same time. The child was born, and their dreams realised yet both fact and fiction were even the same mirrorings of each other's experience.
Jesus Christ Islam Genocide FEED THE BEAST CTHULHU FATGNNNNNNNL RHYLEEEEH SLEEPSNOMORE
>>17438481
I've as much desire to "learn" about your ideas of metaphysics as I've a desire to "learn" about a rabbi's ideas on them.
You're essentially following an atheistic religion, bud.
lol flying>>17438532
whales??
>>17438533
y'all know nothing of meatyphysics though ;)
ive barely seen an ounce of transmutationalist knowledge on /x/ in all my years
>>17438533
Tell you what. If you can humble yourself to apologize and declare your ignorance of geometry, I'll give you an example you just might be able to understand.
Or stay stupid and anti-intellectual, your choice.
>>17432290
Don't think it is though. I mean, it differs slightly even on different parts of the surface.
>>17438540
"HUMBLE THYSELVES BEFORE THE LORD YE UNFAITHFUL AND BEG HIS FORGIVENESS!"
This hubris was hilarious. Once.
After seeing it repeated ad nauseum, it's getting rather stale..
Oh, and true anti-intellectualism would be to stifle free thought through academic dogma and scientific inbreeding, would it not?
Humanity will never better itself.
Apocalypse, please arrive yo
>>17438568
No lord, just smarter than you. C'mon - you can do it. Just say you're sorry, and ask about what boundless means.
>>17438575
Nah, I've got a nice selection of dictionaries handy. And unlike you, they speak truthfully.
And seeing as all you've shown off so far has been the work of someone else, I sincerely doubt your claim if intellectual superiority. As well as anything else you've claimed here. : ^ )
>>17438589
>the work of someone else
>a nice selection of dictionaries handy
>claim if intellectual superiority
>if
I'm just sittin here watching the fights. If you ever want to try thinking, you know what to do.
>>17438593
I already used "of" properly. A typo is an indicator of effort, and I can't be arsed to make one.
A dictionary is to a thesis what an alphabet is to a novel. You're embarrassing yourself.
Oh, and sockpuppeting is kinda pathetic; On an anonymous image board, it's really pathetic. I feel for you, bud. : ^ )
>>17432266
Gravity is weaker the further below the surface you go, and approaches 0 at the center. You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
>>17438456
>damage control
Ayy lmao, your argument went from the universe is finite, to that because it is a spherical object it has no ends.
>>17436428
Gross
>>17432266
Meanwhile, bouyancy and pressure stabilization of marine life's physique counteracts your bait post, even if your science wasn't upside-down, shit-covered retarded.
>>17438559
>>17432266
you are stupid and don't know what you're talking about. please stop.
>>17432167
The eat EACH OTHER
>>17439784
>sockpuppeting is kinda pathetic
You just have to ask, little boy, that's all.
>>17438121
Infinite means something without beginning or end, the universe doesn't have end but it has beginning TBB.
>>17437601
>There is no direct evidence for the existence of the animal the McMenamins call “the kraken.” No exceptionally preserved body, no fossilized tentacle hooks, no beak
Kekkles.
http://www.livescience.com/40856-kraken-rises-with-new-fossil-evidence.html
>Not only have they discovered a second example of strangely arranged bones, they've found a fossil that appears to be the beak of an ancient squid or octopus.
Try again.
>>17438619
>A typo is an indicator of effort
I kecked.
>>17440692
That's a temporary beginning, you shit-eating, cum-loving retard. I'm talking about a spatial beginning, which the Universe doesn't have, thus making it infinite. Also you have shit-taste in anime.
>>17432144
I'm actually more interested about the isolated water/brine pockets in the earth's mantle. They could be sea sized or even ocean sized. Can you imagine the weird shit we'd find there? It's fucking terrifying.
>>17441149
>Also you have shit-taste in anime.
10/10 comeback of the year
argument= won
good job soldier
>>17441230
Good job focusing only on the last sentence of my argument bro.
>>17441190
>that massive water bearing layer
shieeet imagine if there was shit down there
>>17441400
I know right. Look up blood falls. It's a waterfall in Antarctica that's heavily saturated with iron, therefore having a blood red appearance, quite the landmark on a white-gray-black landscape.
It's source? A lake that was isolated beneath an icecap for God-knows how long, probably completely devoid of oxygen, filled with a brine-like liquid. When they sampled the water, they found extremophile bacteria that survive in a no-oxygen, no light environment, basically metabolizing and recycling iron to survive. It's freaky shit.
How do they know 88% is undiscovered?
>>17441415
I wonder if some of this stuff could prove useful.
Then again imagine the unholy FUCK we could unleash on the surface if we went looking for this kind of organism.
>>17441442
Well, if you're thinking about diseases or some other nasty organism, you need to keep in mind that in the very least it couldn't infect us, since diseases evolve alongside its hosts, that's why say, a disease that infects trees never infects humans and vice versa, it doesn't have the capability. And our conditions, atmosphere, temperature and such would probably prove lethal to it.
>>17433629
What people settled in Briton that look like that? Bowie, Tilda swinton, these people are part of some group or another, not native Celtic.
>>17441465
I'm not talking about a virus.
But we could still uncover some nasty bacteria.
>>17441497
Same principles apply to be honest. Exposing it to our world would probably prove fatal to it, rather than us. I'm actually much more worried about our ability to produce bacteria and viruses in labs.
>>17441506
We don't know what the conditions are down there though. Something leaking into our oceans that could harm most marine life is not impossible.
>>17441522
Nothing is impossible, literally. Some things are just very unlikely.
I'd just like to drill a hole and put a submarine in there, shit like this tickles my curiosity in unbelievable ways.
>>17440692
Only you don't know that any more than a christian knows Yahweh exists.
Our primitive calculations can only do so much and until we sail into the sea of stars (which we won't seeing as humanity will nuke itself soon enough), we've barely any information to go in in the first place.
If the Universe has a beginning, what was there before it came to be?
Empty space is just as much a part of the Universe as anything else, so unless you believe that there was a creator who -made- it, the Universe could truly be infinite for all we know.
There was a recent article about a 30 metre long giant octopus that arranged its preys remains to resemble itself outside its warren and was the most intelligent Cephalopoda ever.
Who knows if any survive today.
>>17433199
It depends on what you consider to be intelligent. Octopi can solve puzzles.
>>17442542
Bullshit
>>17441531
So is it possible for me to transform into a unicorn that can shoot lasers out of my asshole? Fuck you.
>>17432144
>It's not crazy to hypothesize that there are organisms larger than the Blue Whale in the ocean that we haven't encountered yet.
Actually yes it is since creatures that large could only live on the surface.
There is fuck all in the deep ocean of any interest. It will be a lifeless wasteland just covered in water.
>>17433629
>DUDE ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN LMAO
>I don't actually understand any scientific ideas or theories, I just claim to have an open mind and welcome any idea no matter how stupid they sound because I like to fantasise about there being monsters and shit.
There being a giant monster in the depths of the ocean would completley undermine several things we know about physics and biology.
There is no way a typical life form can survive at those depths, and certainly not one that looks like some giant freaky whale like in OP's image.
an interesting thread became a shitfest of insults.
stay classy, /x/.
>>17439954
The largest living organism exists in land, take that mysterious ocean! http://www.extremescience.com/biggest-living-thing.htm
As for gravity and depth in the ocean, fairly negligible correlation to any specie's maximum size. Yes it will change a bit, but do you find yourself floating around when you ride in an airplane? 10,000ft elevation is nearly 2 miles off the ground. The deepest part of our ocean is still a much larger radius than the moon's, and there is still notable gravity there.
>>17442876
http://www.livescience.com/40856-kraken-rises-with-new-fossil-evidence.html
>>17438231
>there's plenty of it for something even bigger
not in the darkest parts of the ocean though.
>>17434679
its dead. i read somewhere that the only time humans have observed giant squids are when they're dead or during their mating season. we don't know exactly where they go in between.
>>17441400
lol the transition zone isn't water. thats nonsense and ive no idea where the person who created that picture came up with that idea
You'll all die a vicious death for talking such words of our Lord cthulu. I pray he will end it quickly for me stop I may serve my purpose for him in the afterlife that much sooner.
>>17432167
They're the absolute bottom feeders, eating all the carrion that floats to the bottom or even suspends itself once it reaches a certain pressure in the deep.
>>17432266
Huge gaps in your logic. And deep see creatures have been brought to the surface in pressurized tanks long ago and "gravity" didn't implode them on the way
>>17432266
You've never been deep see fishing or diving have you?
>>17433556
Oh definitely bro, ALMOST CERTAINLY yeaaah
>>17432144
How do we know 88% of the species haven't been found... if they haven't been found yet.
>>17444041
By the rate and quantity at which they have been found year to year within already explored areas and our knowledge that the 90% of the earth unexplored would likely be similar. What would it just be barren after a certain point? Why?
>>17438449
Yeah but Moder physics sends stuf to Mars and gives us Computers, GPS and your mums Dildo.
>eminem with aids
>>17433556
Scientists already figured this out and this is the answer desu.
>>17443904
actually there was a giant squid who swam into some japanses harbour last year
ofc being japanese some dude jumped in and started feeling it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCZXJHuvL6s
>>17441415
There are also 400 lakes beneath Anatrcticas surface. The Russians are messing around and taking samples from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok
>>17442876
It was mentioned previously in this very tread, called bullsit and ten confirmed with:
http://www.livescience.com/40856-kraken-rises-with-new-fossil-evidence.html
Read the thread before commenting in future.
>>17432179
Just like OP
>>17443896
How do you know?
>>17442880
The odds of that could be calculated.
>>17443914
>Water-bearing
I believe it means it is solid but is still saturated with water if I had to guess
I doubt they layers of the planet are as clean cut as a simple diagram
>>17438121
Space curves around on itself dipshit.
Poincare conjectured in 1904 the fairly obvious intuition that the hypersphere consistuted the simplest fnite and unbound closed shape, simpler for example than the torus.
It seems reasonable to conjecture that nature will have used the simplest possible method of creating a finite and unbound space.
>>17432973
it is
>>17432144
>Approximately 90% of the ocean is unmapped and 88% of species in the ocean are yet to be discovered.
I really wish this stat was never released. All of these retarded fucks like OP have no idea what it actually means. 90% of the ocean floor is unmapped, because who the fuck takes their time to map incredibly huge areas of ocean for no fucking reason. We know were the deepest spots are, we know roughly the depts of every part of the ocean, we just don't know about every tiny fucking bump everywhere that's all this stat means.
For the other stat, those are almost exclusively tiny fucking shit species and subspecies that we still lump in together with other ones. Yes, most of these are at greater depts, but that's because we can't get there. The idea that there are gigantic undiscovered animals down there is ridiculous.
I'll try to explain it so fucks like OP can get this. If that thing exists it probably weighs around 1000 tonnes. Instead there could be about 100 billion fucking tiny species that weight a few grams down there we haven't discovered. You understand what i'm getting at?
I'm not even gonna start on the physical and biological reasons why something like this can't exist and especially not at those depths.
Btw we also haven't discovered close to half the species on the surface, for the same reasons. They are tiny as shit and hard to differentiate from known ones, but we won't find some 50 foot high hamster in the jungle or something.
TL;DR
this thread is the classic result of the misinterpretation of those statistics and not reason to believe anything of significance is left to discover
>>17442953
But have you been down there? Have you measured to dick of every single animal on the planet? Then how can you be sure?
Literally OP's logic
>>17445057
your mom curves around on herself
>>17432230
except for your mom
>>17444097
is this a small one rigth?
>>17441190
the subterranean oceans are actually oceans, its more like big earth and mud sponges
>>17432396
Underrated post
>>17433199
Orcas
>>17433556
>The unidentified sounds are almost certsinly icebergs / glaciers scraping around as they move.
Nobody credible believes that anymore, even the people who first made the claim said theyre wrong its still got the signatures of a sound produced by a biological source.
>>17432144
Sorry to spoil the fun but the "big bloop" was an ice quake.
>>17446935
I'm gonna have to direct you to this post, just so you can understand
>>17436295
this one
>>17440776
I've never met an octpus that keeps shit neat and tidy. Sure they have middens of shell and debris outside their dens, but they are messy as fuck and just tend to throw shit everywhere. Being organised just isn't their thing. Nor are they the type of creature to suck bones clean, which must have happened at some stage to allow these bones to be 'placed' in this fashion. I've seen many an octobro just toss away fish heads and chunks of crab in true "fuck this shit, I'll just catch another one" octopussy fashion.
>>17446681
that thing is like 2 metres long
>>17439074
No.
>>17433199
dolphins could be more intelligent than humans.
their brains are physically bigger, and they use a language we are yet to understand.
at least that i know of.
>>17437599
didn't take much did it.
>>17448348
Common farm pigs are provably smarter than dolphins. So are a lot of things.
>>17434648
Building a "rapture" would be nice. But I wonder, how would you protect it from natural disasters like earthquakes? I believe it's definitely possible, we just need a lot of money.
>>17436428
that is insane and super creepy.
>>17432192
>>17448879
Fun fact: It actually would have been possible using 1950s technology. The main problem with building an underwater city is that it would cost way more money than it could ever possibly make for its funders.
>>17449027
that, and lack of sunlight.
But yeah there's no reason we can't do it. The real problem is that no one has any reason to want to.
>>17449068
Ocean Spiral from japan:
https://www.shimz.co.jp/english/theme/dream/oceanspiral.html
>>17449191
>unlimited potential for fisheries and CO2 handling
uhh, I'm not sure that guy knows what "unlimited" means. But yeah, eventually it'll be viable, once global warming starts fucking us up for real or overpopulation happens.
>>17449027
Maybe if in the near future robots could build it sufficiently then mostly the costs would go to materials. Then I think it could be profitable if there was people living there who would pay top dollar for housing,food, other services etc and also tourism.
I don't know really just a thought
>>17441190
It's not just free water you dumbass it's mixed in with so much rock that it's more like wet rock than an ocean
>>17436428
>the jellyfish from Deep Trouble could be real
>>17438449
it provides plenty of answers, you just don't know or care about them
>>17432144
The mystery of the Bloop has always intrigued me. I recommend looking into Giant Siphonophores. They're basically floating plankton colonies, like a salp chain, that's usually around 40 feet long; only difference between them and a salp chain is that each unit is microbial and acts as an individual organ. However, reports (though unofficial) say they can be up to 300 feet long. This is in areas only a few hundred feet deep, not the depths that cover most of the oceans. The only reason why they are not classified as the largest creature is because they are constructed of billions (in the 300 feet case probably trillions) of tiny microbes. Now, Giant Siphonophores lack width and are very stringy, and thus are very quiet due to their width. Even a 300 footer probably can barely make a sound loud enough for a human to hear. However, going by that previous statement, what if there were a Giant Siphonophore that was hundreds of miles long? A 300 footer can probably make a sound humans can hear, like slowly deflating a balloon. A 3,696,000 foot long (700 mile long) Siphonophore could probably make a sound that would make blue whales go deaf. And the best part is, the math checks out. The creature could exist and the noise could be created.
Maybe It's just an autistic whale, Exiled from its family
>>17432448
Come to think of it, although I know no one actually knows, why does that occur? It's peculiar that those creatures decide to break the rules. Squids all like, "Fuck the system, I'm going to live down here and be giant no matter what you say."
>>17443904
Although yes, it is dead, it isn't a giant squid. Assuming giant squids behave like normal squids (just on steroids) that squid overhead is actually something much more dangerous. Pardon me if I get the name wrong, but it goes along the lines of a hooked broad squid. It's a squid with spikes on its tentacles and the largest are larger than humans. Still would be terrifying to discover.
>>17446903
Indeed true. Biological organisms have a certain quality to their voices. It's like electrical equipment sounds compared to a human voice; there is a subtle but noticeable difference.
>>17438121
Don't worry, they probably think the Earth is flat too.
>>17449515
sounds like a humboldt squid. I never saw one larger than a human, all i know is they are the most aggressive and known to attack humans.
>>17444030
What, Giant Squids bore you? How can iceberg movements be any more interesting.
*It then hits me as I prepare to write a shitpost.
You have no idea what the phrase, "Is where it's at," even means. That makes sense.
>>17448348
Bigger brains are actually more inferior.
Couldn't find a word that would work as well in that sentence, I'm not ready to start a flame war and say that you or dolphins are inferior.
Seriously though. One of the things I major in is psychology, and the longer the distance between synapses and neurons, the longer a thought take to get out. Indeed dolphins may be smarter than us, but because of their brain size, they all basically would have Down's syndrome in that case.
Not saying downy tards are inferior either. Even though that's exactly what I pretty much said.
>>17449472
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52-hertz_whale
>>17448039
Alright dingus time for a thought experiment. Say I'm wrong. The acceleration of gravity at the center of a spherical mass isn't 0. What is it, and what direction is it in? You're at the center, and every direction is pointing away from the center.of gravity. So now gravity is a push rather than a pull. Extending that to our lumpy planet, there must be some point below the surface where the pull of gravity is 0. Since the earth is roughly spherical, that point is somewhere near the center.
>>17432144
The birthing of Godzilla is nigh thanks to all the radiation dumped into the pacific from the fukushima reactor, hell yeah neutron coated radiating caesium errywhere.
>>17432266
I think you're mixing up gravity with the greater density of water making shit like mammals and reptoids float.
>>17432396
Al works too dude.
>>17433199
Yes, dolphins communicate and cooperate. They also do flips and shit, so they're smarter than most people. meinstein dubs for truth.
>>17438568
lol K
>>17441415
Yeah the next step in human evolution could be mitochondrial electron chain cycling with strontium and iron for light weight high power cellular energy production. We must learn from the extreme things.
>>17441465
Right, some of best medication will just slaughter things like sheep.
>>17442029
The real reason is the local interstellar intelligent species think humanity is a violent joke atm. Anyway Andromeda always wins, this is the way of death, but Andromeda always wins.
>>17442921
LIES AND SLANDER, you'll anger cthulhu
clover field
>>17446692
>>17443914
>>17449416
I assumed what he was suggesting was maybe there are isolated pockets of freeflowing water encased in rock so they aren't just large deposits of mud like the rest of that layer.
Which could (Albeit incredibly unlikely) host some crazy extremophile life.
>>17449609
down syndrome whale
Seriously - google animal down syndrome, it does happen.
re: Bloop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unexplained_sounds
>>17438449
>Why should I pay lip service to the new one when it doesn't actually provide answers.
Because it actually DOES provide answers. Literal, usable, pragmatic, observable, USEFUL answers to real life problems.
Maybe it doesn't provide the answer to what you want, but just because a scientific theory doesn't answer everything does not mean that it's not worth knowing, studying and understanding it.
>>17436752
conversely, i find them absolutely terrifying
>>17446034
snap
>>17448478
dolphins use tools, have names for each other, perform as well as humans on some tests, can learn to follow complex commands involving prepositional phrases, and have been documented forming relationships with humans in the wild and helping them fish
what in the holy fucking fuck are you talking about?
>>17432396
Found it; siphonophore
>>17433557
The krakens
>>17432266
>>17432396
I agree with them both.
>>17451197
>and have been documented forming relationships with humans in the wild
you mean letting female scientists jerk them off while other scientists dropped acid in the building upstairs
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/08/the-dolphin-who-loved-me
>>17433633
But bigfoot has been found. It's a primate species that once lived in asia and some parts of the americas.
>>17432200
This is a good question and well stated.
>>17439074
No.
>>17445321
Fair point, still fun to think about though. No need to be an ass about it.
>>17451197
>dolphins use tools
Sponging, yes, I'm familiar with it. Tool use is hardly unique, let alone such a simplistic case as sponging. Octopi make suits of armor out of coconut shells and use rocks to break open bottles and crab shells, crows use sticks to fish food items out of bottles or other enclosed spaces, chimpanzees have been recorded making stone knives and even picking locks, butcher birds use thorns and barb-wire fences to pull apart larger prey animals that they wouldn't be able to eat otherwise, and fruit flies self medicate. Let me repeat that last one. FRUIT FLIES SELF MEDICATE. I'm sure I could find other examples if I look hard enough.
>have names for each other
A lot of things can learn to respond to names. Doesn't make them smarter than humans.
>can learn to follow complex commands involving prepositional phrases
My dog can learn to follow complex commands involving prepositional phrases. Doesn't mean it won't hump the leg of a burglar that shows up to steal our shit.
>have been documented forming relationships with humans in the wild and helping them fish
Not even close to unique, let alone a sign of above-human intelligence. Also, I'm not certain I even believe this one, given what I know about dolphins and their asshattery.
>>17451605
>But bigfoot has been found.
I lelled. Nice one anon.
>>17438449
>A thousand years ago "DEUS VULT"was the "current physical model"
You know, it's ok to be anti religious and all.
but do you have to spill such asinine?
>>17432144
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/could-megalodon-still-live-deep-ocean
>>17432167
Well, if blue whales are an indication, plankton/krill.
>>17432536
>>17438317
kek
http://4chandata.org/x/I-was-a-commercial-diver-for-an-oil-and-gas-company-in-the-1990s--a164294
>>17446903
Citation needed
>>17432167
Haven't you seen Star Wars 1? This is basic shit nigga fuck
>>17453487
1. People taking back what they said.
2. Ridiculous claim about whale-shaped icebergs.
Given that neither cited a source, I'd say citation is nowhere near needed here. I don't have any problem believing a researcher took back their initial claim.
>>17453467
Yes. Love this
>>17448039
>>17451691
Same (retarded) fag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_theorem
>A corollary is that inside a solid sphere of constant density the gravitational force varies linearly with distance from the centre, becoming zero by symmetry at the centre of mass.
>>17453861
>People taking back what they said.
[citation needed]
>Ridiculous claim about whale-shaped icebergs.
That guy was joking, are you literally pants-shitting retarded?
As a result...
>>17446903
>Nobody credible believes that anymore
[citation needed]
>>17454749
>inside a solid sphere of constant density
The earth is neither entirely solid nor of constant density.
>>17432144
>88% of species in the ocean are yet to be discovered.
how do they now how much are yet to be discovered if they're undiscovered?
>>17455922
It kind of means we only have knowledge of a small portion of what's down there.
>>17433629
While incredibly large creatures do have an easier time existing under water than on land, these creatures, like whales for example, do not tend to live their lives exclusively at incredible depths because there is a stark lack of food down there. Most deep sea creatures are very very small for this reason, and the only true exceptions are Cephalopods, which manage to live at such depths because they are highly intelligent inveterate with few competitors for a limited food supply. A whale or whale like animal at these depths would need to eat enough to support its size, and while the Sperm Whale and a few other whales have been known to DIVE to pretty impressive depths for food, their skeletal structures (while adapted to diving) cannot and do not support a full lifetime at such a depth. To live at such a depth, a creature like the bloop would need to
1: Find enough food to support an unprecedented mass in an ecosystem with significantly below average food quantities
2: Not be a mammal, as mammals require air, and coming up for air would almost certainly cause it to be discovered or at least leave SOME evidence of its existence, and while not being a mammal doesn't seem like that big a deal, it becomes rather problematic when you consider that the largest discovered creature on earth is a mammal, and the only creatures to come close to THAT size in the past were either also mammals, or lived in a time/place with an abundance of heat, something the deep sea lacks.
3: Have an internal and external body structure adapted to such high pressures, which once again, may seem like a no brainer until you consider that most creatures do this by being very small, and even the absolute largest creatures confirmed to be living at this depth pale in comparison to the blue whale.
tl;dr: You're a retard if you believe in something just to "keep an open mind" despite almost 100% of the evidence pointing to you being dead wrong.
>>17433556
that thing looks fucking scary, it could have killed him at any time
>>17433199
>mfw the squid are the will evolve soon
>>17439954
2 SP00KIE
