Is it just me or is NASA hiding something about Mars?
I imagine if they were they'd do a better job at it.
It's not just you. It's just you and MoonMoon.
>>17109225
Literally every time someone points out something weird in a rover picture they say "oh it's just a rock"
They know what they're doing, no one can deny it because no one saw it first hand
got any more pics?
>>17109215
Well I wanted to check out mars, but now that I know there are giant spiders there, no thanks.
>>17109215
that inset is definitely photoshopped.
I know, I know, when one the tinfoil brigade does it, you call it "image enhancement" but, when NASA does color correction you scream, "IMAGE MANIPULATION!!!1!!"
>>17109237
OP here
I've got a few more on my phone, I'll dump 'em
>>17109257
There's a ton more too
A few I'm sure are just rocks, a few are a bit...strange
>>17109262
1/?
>>17109273
3/I think like 6
>>17109278
Fucking sand people
>>17109280
That one was pretty small, here's a better one
Tell me if any of these are too small guys, mobile makes them look pretty decent sized so I dont know how it looks on a computer
>>17109287
6/6
Alright, that's all I got
>>17109290
SPACE SQUIRREL
I don't see why NASA doesn't just own up and say they know there's some weird ass shit on Mars or anywhere in space in general.
What if mars did have it's own advanced civilizations, but they just nuked each other to oblivion. Leaving behind only stone relics, a thin atmosphere, and a few wondering survivors.
>>17109287
Everything in this thread besides this is definitely a suggestively shaped normal rock.
This is definitely really weird. It might just be a really weird rock, though.
>>17109273
this one gives me the spooks
>>17109268
This is the one that really spooks me, it proves that Egyptians didn't create pyrimads, but that's...something else did
>>17109309
spirit science actually mentioned a theory like that on a youtube video.
>>17109308
Because it'd cause pandemonium
And the last thing the government wants is for the country to lose their shit over aliens
>>17109309
my same thoughts here
While I'm not going to rule out that it could be something, isn't there a thing where we see things that are familiar to us? Silhouettes, faces, etc?
>>17109317
Scientists even said that no known thing in history could've created that anomaly, there's definitely something strange going on here
>>17109315
heh heh heh
>>17109326
Even though I think this is autist thread, what kind of silhouette would that b?
>>17109326
See >>17109322
But come on, some of these things are not just silly patterns we see, they're serious shit
>>17109278
You're looking at it wrong. That's the beginning of a cliff.
>>17109278
This is the one I genuinely find the weirdest. The others could reasonably could be rocks but saying that is just a rock feels like a stretch.
>>17109347
It's been confirmed not to be a person anyway
Unless Martians are like 2 ft tall
>>17109321
True
But it would be fun to see everyone panic about it
>>17109358
Of course it's not a fucking person
>>17109369
Most people thought it was a Martian QT
FYI: whatever they're telling/revealing to you now, they knew 40 years ago. They're just now so advanced that they can safely reveal old, meaningless crap that seems new to you.
>>17109273
I feel like the zoom-in was shooped... Not sure and too lazy to find out.
>>17109321
>Because it'd cause pandemonium
Would it really if it's just a bunch of space vermin?
>>17109318
> proves
Woah there chief. Even if this were a pyramid with an alien standing next to it and NASA released a statement saying "this is a live alien standing next to an alien pyramid on Mars," it *still* wouldn't prove anything about Egypt
>>17109215
Spooky
wow rocks!
>>17109446
Ha
Ha
Ha
Seriously though some of these rocks are a bit odd, also explain this >>17109317
>>17109273
>space niggers
>>17109403
Don't you recognize sarcasm when you see it?!
>>17109403
Not OP but the Egyptians probably didn't build the pyramids. Each of those stones weighs between 2 and 10 tons...it'd take 600 years to complete just one of them and several hundred of the stones used were cut from a rock query over 500 miles away. There's just no way slaves hauled those stones and stacked them on top of each other, it's impossible with the minimal technology the Egyptians had available to them.
>>17109317
what am I looking at. What is that?
>>17109524
Glass tubes of some kind. It could either be natural or alien.
>>17109528
Astonishing.
>>17109317
>gif
Fuck off you ain't spoopin me.
>>17109521
Ok, cool. Has absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying, but right on.
>>17109215
>>17109273
These are very obviously shooped in favor of your claims
Almost all of the others are even more easily explained.
It's like the boy who cried wolf. You guys have cried wolf, and are STILL crying wolf just ITT, so much that the rest of us have basically ripped the phone out of the wall. If you want to be taken seriously, post legitimately unexplained/mysterious images and none others. Posting a hundred images and then pointing to one or two as the "real" evidence is just silly.
>>17109317
How is this unexplained? Glass tubes? Come the fuck on.
It looks like some sort of dune effect that follows the canyon. I'm not saying it's unequivocally natural, but to automatically say "ZOMG TOTALLY UNNATURAL ITS GLASS TUBES A SCIENTIST SAID SO" while probably citing some poor guys words taken absurdly out of context is... that's a whole other level of denial. I'd love to see citations to an actual science journal saying that, in context please.
>inb4 b-but m-muh tinfoil they don't talk about in official science
You're trying to cite official science by saying official science has officially stated that this formation is not natural by any means. Cite it.
>>17109613
Don't forget illusions.
>>17109586
They're literally the raw Curiosity photos, just zoomed in so you can actually see the objects
If you don't believe me go onto NASA's Mars site
>>17109613
It's not glass tubes, it's odd tube like paths through the ground that don't have any actual opening
Scientists have stated that no known environmental-based thing could've created it, making it a phenomenon even scientists can't explain
>>17109318
If that's a pyramid, it's the shittiest one I've ever seen. The angles are off and one side is obviously larger than the other. You realize there are plenty of different types of rocks and minerals that will break off in smooth lines and surfaces, right? It's a result of their atomic structures.
http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2009/07/22/18-natural-formations-that-look-man-made/
Found this with just a quick google search. How about you guys do a little research into the kinds of rock formations that can naturally occur before jumping to conclusions. I want to find alien life as much as the next /x/phile, but come on, guys. These are just a bunch of fucking rocks.
>>17109330
>[citation needed]
>>17109613
Just google it if you want to see that science can't explain it
>>17109617
I don't care, I've seen the originals and even with that image you can clearly see that the zoomed portion is edited in a way to support your THEORIES which you all always state as facts with these silly threads. If you zoomed in on the thing yourself, I guarantee you would not see that without heavy editing.
>>17109627
I'd still like to see the actual source. Preferably from a well-known science journal. Also "no known environmental-based" doesn't really rule a whole lot out.
>>17109652
>1. Make wild claims
>2. Give no sources and hope the guy I'm arguing with is too lazy to find it (if it even exists) himself
>3. ???
>4. Profit!
I actually don't have a lot going on right now, so I AM going to look for it. If I find it I will cite it here and give the exact context it is in. If I can't find it, well... you'll just blame the boogie man or something I'm sure.
You guys need to learn that reading some bs article/blog off a backwater clickbait website does not count. They're even better at taking shit out of context for their own gain than you guys are.
>>17109657
>>17109674
Sometimes I wonder why people like you 2 come to /x/ anyway, it's literally the board for nuts to circlejerking about conspiracy theories and spooky shit
What were you expecting, Civil conversation on popular topics with each claim being backed up by 8 sources?
>>17109521
>implying they only moved 1 stone at a time
>implying you didn't just pull "600 years" out of your ass. If not, citation needed.
>Implying they were built by slaves and not paid, skilled laborers.
>"hauled those stones and stacked them on top of each other"
Have you never heard of a ramp?
>>17109254
is cave art?
>>17109687
I browse these threads occasionally, because (like you) I would really love to see a legitimate piece of evidence. I can say that I have not, at least not in these threads. I usually don't post, but you're unlucky in that I have nothing else to do at the moment. If you didn't talk like all your claims are factual and easily backed up, I wouldn't even be posting anyways.
I usually just come here for the lore. Every so often I find something obscure that I wouldn't have seen otherwise, such as the current thread up that some very kind anon filled with slavic monsters. Aged lore, not bs rake/slendy shit.
Btw, still looking. All I can find so far is a claim from some guy (who claims to be a geologist) on Hoaglands website, which when put under scrutiny has been shown to pretty much be entirely false. I'd really love to find something, anything, on an actual science journal.
>>17109716
Still unable to find anything regarding those tubes (other than the Hoagie thing). If anyone has any suggestions for search terms I've pretty much searched all the reputable sites I know with just about every term I can think of. I'm actually a bit disappointed that I couldn't even find something possibly taken out of context.
I would say I'm surprised that you guys don't cite more things regarding evidence on earth of life on mars (I've found many articles discussing it just in the last few minutes), but bacterial life is boring and it's much more fun to find a 10ft crab or ape-man.
>>17109716
Fine you got me, they're just lava tubes
They were, at first, not fully understood, and thus most scientists didn't understand how they came to be, however they have since then been categorized as just plain old lava tubes that due to the oxygen levels on Mars, appear much larger than the ones on Earth
>>17109761
>Fine you got me
I'm not trying to "get you." I would have been just as happy to find your claims were well-founded, as long as they were. I just happen to be in a position where I could aggressively refute them.
Hey guys where do you think NASA will head to once they're done with Mars?
>>17109690
Then explain how they cut stone so smooth with a hammer and a chisel.
>>17109778
Saturn is very spooky, I say they should check that place out next
>>17109215
>>17109778
Most logical, Jupiter or Venus
Although I'd like to see them investigate Saturn some more
>>17109215
I have a few you guys.
>>17109778
Probably Europa. I'd say Venus if they get some better tech/shielding going on.
>>17109800
2/3
pooped my pants
>>17109807
3/3
>>17109818
A couple others, I doubt hey coud men much though.
1/2
>>17109521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1y8N0ePuF8
>>17109821
2/2
>>17109785
>implying it was done with hammer and chisel
>implying there aren't other methods of carving/cutting stone
>implying you are leading into a blatant argument from ignorance fallacy and/or false dichotomy
Not being 100% sure of every single detail doesn't automatically mean it's impossible for humans or had to have been ayy lmaos.
Do you not know what a skilled laborer is? Have you bothered to do any actual research at all on the pyramids, or even construction in general? Or are you just regurgitating the same tired crap others have repeated over and over? Read a fucking book sometime and educate yourself, you fucking pleb.
If these things are really rocks why do they look so odd?
Like that thing in the OP, it's just god damn
>>17109785
THAT STONE IS NOT SMOOTH
CUTTING STONE SMOOTH IS EASY
IT JUST TAKES PRACTICE
AND MOST EXAMPLES ARE DONE POORLY
ITS NOT MAGIC
ITS LITERALLY HITTING A ROCK UNTIL ITS FLAT
>>17109800
>>17109807
Okay, I can at least see what you think might warrant posting these two. Looks like maybe a beat up street sign or something covered in dirt. I would say it's just a fluke maybe involving a combination of the wheel tracks and natural formations, but it certainly looks strange.
>>17109818
>>17109821
What are these supposed to be? I mean, if it's just rocks that look maybe sorta square or sorta triangular or whatever, then you might as well just post the entire NASA archive IMO.
>>17109836
I really see nothing here, at all. Not even just like a brick or something. Is it that the discoloration on the rock is supposed to be like fungus or something?
>>17109836
Oh yeah, I just remembered this from years ago.
"Pine Forests" on Mars, lol. These pics are from a Mars orbiter, I don't know what it is. Check Rense out too, it's a good /x/ related site.
>>17109863
Forgot link.
http://www.rense.com/general63/surb.htm
>>17109838
>it's impossible for humans or had to have been ayy lmaos.
You pulled this out of your filthy gape.
Mlady. Rock breaks where it wants when you hit it. It had to be precisely cut with some tool.
Now, can you mention what tool did they have back then that could acomplish this? Why is there no surviving samples of such tool?
>>17109586
This guy gets it, but I'll be the nice guy who explains shit for the window-lickers this time.
These are taken by Curiosity, as some have said.
>>17109268
The "Pyramid".
First, look at the rest of the rocks for scale. You can see it is taken from relatively nearby. Therefore, the scary Martian pyramid is no more than a couple of inches tall. Not only that, but its shape is likely the result of millions of years of aeolian erosion. Also, and let's get this: STRAIGHT LINES DO OCCUR IN NATURE. Especially in eroded rocks.
>>17109273
Pareidolia. We used to call knobbly geodes "Nigger Heads" when I was a kid.
>>17109275
I've seen weirder rocks in rivers, assuming it's not faked. We do know Mars had water a couple billion years back, right? And Vulcanism.
>>17109278
This one was tricky. I looked and looked for a natural explanation. Then I ran it through ELA ( results here: http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=e8343ed73ff1762fe40350fa79e7a6022e705bc9.76033&show=ela )
If you don't know how to read it, look at the Tutorial and Case Study provided in the Tutorials section.
As much as I hate to say it, This figure has rainbowing all around it. This means one of two things: It is a crag on the cliff that got touched up too much in Photoshop, or it's faked.
>>17109287
I see nothing wrong here. I hike a lot, waterfalls being among my favorite destinations. I see a dry riverbed, and a funnily eroded rock. I've seen several similar, maybe I should start bringing a camera.
>>17109290
This is barely a photograph anymore. It is zoomed in to the point where the image is almost entirely noise, the shadows are enhanced to the point of hilarity (ELA link: http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=4442e2ed1678d038f05e8c182ffd29a1cc07dc65.402977 ). Seriously, a sharpie would make more convincing shadows. Fake enough to be served at McDonalds.
And finally, just for fun...
>>17109317
Good job, Schiaparelli. You've found your fucking canals.
Cont. From >>17109881
What tools did they use to carve pic related.
Show me a modern rock carving that shows that level of precision.
>>17109887
good goy work hard for those ill gotten gains
you are the scum of the earth, how can you accept money earned by you hurting the human race by attempting to disinfo them
What I think is most fascinating is that the ground on Mars is actually closer to brown and the sky is blue.
but for some reason Nasa puts a red filter on everything to make it seem alien.
>>17109887
You know, when a suspect seemingly has an explanation for everything, the cops become more suspicious.
>>17109904
Are you talking to that guy, or everyone else posting odd looking rock formations with an exact explanation for each one?
>>17109887
>This is barely a photograph anymore. It is zoomed in to the point where the image is almost entirely noise
Here's the raw photo
It's probably just some rock though
>>17109897
Money? Where? If I could get paid for 10 mins of looking at retarded pics on 4chan, I'm in the wrong fucking industry.
>rocks
>rocks
>rocks
Is there anything on Mars that can't just be explained by saying "it's a rock"?
>>17109828
Believing anything found on youtube. I only take my facts from sources not owned by jews.
>>17109943
I think they found a flower once
>>17109943
The sky.
>>17109881
I don't know what tools they used, but people who are actually experts in these matters have several theories. http://www.lauralee.com/articles/stonecut.htm here is an article explaining how it's possible to have used gold/silver discs to concentrate light, and how that may have been used to aid in the process. http://www.theglobaleducationproject.org/egypt/articles/hrdfact2.php here is another article pointing out what may be markings left by some sort of saw. It wouldn't take much of an engineering feat to make, say, a circular saw that's manually powered.
But you are still missing the point and resorting to the logical fallacy of argument from ignorance. You're implying that just because we don't know for sure, that it must be aliens, and that's just fucking stupid. All the time there's things discovered that changes our perception of the ancient world, and forces us to realize that they weren't just a bunch of mouth breathing downies. They were people, just like us, capable of clever ideas and critical thinking. We are talking about people that have already figured out the complexities of math, irrigation, large-scale construction, and even navigation. You give people too little credit, and are way too eager to jump on the ayy lmao bandwagon because "OMG I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DID THIS SHIT WITH ROCKS SO MUST BE ALIENS". You probably don't even know jack shit about modern stone working techniques, yet feel qualified to make claims and assumptions about methods that haven't been used for thousands of years that even experts can't be 100% about yet.
Once again, educate yourself a bit, you stupid nigger.
>>17109952
It was actually just a pebble
>Tfw everyday travel to Mars won't happen in your lifetime
ffffuck, come on NASA speed this shit up
>>17109933
Took me a bit to find it. Looks like a rock to me. Thanks for posting the raw. ~74x44px in the raw, blown up to 610x381px or roughly 8 times.
>>17109971
NASA's shooting for humans on Mars by 2030
>>17109892
that pic is obviously done with chisel and abrasion. It's not smooth in the slightest, and you can even see very obvious fuck ups. The circular pattern around the (is that a fucking stegosaurus? ) is even warped at the 10 o'clock area. This isn't even a good example of good carving, much less proof of ayys. Dinosaurs, maybe, but not ayys
>>17109957
>Now, can you mention what tool did they have back then that could acomplish this?
>Why is there no surviving samples of such tool?
>Show me a modern rock carving that shows that level of precision.
>>17109977
>15 years
I'm 36 dammit
God, I don't even care about Mars I just want everyday travel to other planets to happen in my lifetime, but fuck if it took them almost 80 years just to get us on Mars then I guess my dream's been shattered
>>17109785
hmmm.. after sitting stacked on top of each other for hundreds of years (or however long), wouldn't they be smoothed out due to the pressure?
>>17109215
Genuinely curious... You guys, being the well-read folks you surely are, are aware that genetic variety requires something like 2,000 individuals of a species to survive indefinitely, right? I'm not sure on the numbers, but I can't see a population much below that surviving for even a century or two. Each species that you're trying to say you've found would need to have over 2,000 individuals, and just looking through this thread alone I'm seeing probably at least 10 different "species." Not only that, but there would have to be a food chain involving many more species. This would likely result in millions of creatures. Why wouldn't we see more of them?
How do you explain this, even to yourself? A conspiratorial cover-up? If that's the case, you definitely have much more faith in our governments abilities than I do.
>>17109785
>>17109521
this nigga watches ancient aliens on H2
>>17110008
Yeah, I'm 25 and even I'm not very hopeful.
>them feels...
>>17110008
>born too late to explore earth
>born too early to explore space
At Least we got to enjoy seeing things like the Internet and video games shape the world
>>17109978
He's trolling. I know it's difficult to tell him apart from the legit crazies, though. I knew as soon as I saw how crude the pictured stonework was.
Prepare your buttholes for much more in the coming months, it's winter break.
>>17110017
>A conspiratorial cover-up? If that's the case, you definitely have much more faith in our governments abilities than I do.
Personally I think it's just a weird rock, but I just wanna say with something like this the government can actually easily cover it up
All they have to do is take the rover pictures that "reveal" something and toss them away before they get shown to the public
It's pretty simple
>>17110023
> born too late to explore Earth
> born too early to explore Space
But born just in time to explore 4chan...
>>17109933
probably just odd rock formations but It looks like there's small animals throughout the photo.
>>17110033
>But born just in time to explore 4chan...
>>17110008
Fuck, these feels man
Sure I was born just in time to enjoy the golden age of gaming or yeah, I got to see the first black president, and hey I get to see a giant wall get built between America and Mexico but fuck what's all that compared to running around Mars or bouncing around on the moon?
>>17110035
>probably just odd rock formations
>>17110047
what's your point
>>17110035
Woah man...
>3am
>reading about rocks on /x/
What the fuck am I doing with my life?
>>17110035
>probably just odd rock formations
Denial isn't just a river in egypt
>>17110054
Great things
>>17110028
Besides the fact that such action would involve anyone at NASA handling the images in ANY fashion being fully aware and complacent, if millions of lifeforms were running around on Mars how would they even as many photos as they do without them? Did they send in a crew beforehand to kill it all?
I'm not trying to be a dick, and I see where you're coming from, I'm just trying to foster discussion if anything. Most people ITT are decided absolutely one way or the other, I am not as much as people would yell SHILL if I pointed out all my posts. Personally, I feel it's much more reasonable to take an objective view of both sides rather than being a die-hard for either, but it might just be me.
>>17110071
To be fair for as long as they've had the rover they really haven't released that many photos
>>17110054
Not being on Reddit...
>>17110064
>>17110089
Yeah I would agree, but I'd go a step further and wonder how many they actually get themselves.
What is the window they get, like 20 minutes? In that 20 minutes they have to take all the data it gave them and give it new orders. How much of that is spent on pictures versus commands/general data (including scientific measurements/findings)? I'm not sure, but I live by the U of A and actually know people (not directly) who might and I'm very curious. Curious enough to ask the next chance I get.
>>17110071
Or, and hear me out here, you can own being a skeptic, take an intellectually honest position, and provoke people calling you a shill for a laugh before you sleep for the first time in 40 hours.
>>17110126
Not that I would ever do such a thing. Its been a while since we've done this, /x/. It's been fun, let's do it again real soon.
>>17110126
No actual skeptics are questioning NASA's Mars data. They did, initially, then they found it solid, moved on.
>>17110126
>skeptic
>a person inclined to question or doubt all accepted opinions.
Yeah sure, I'd own that.
However, the term skeptic has become synonymous with shill and is often used in a derogatory way at the very least on this board. I try to stay away from it, if I can. It's like starting off your statement with any equivalent of IMAGIRL, discussion is fully expected to devolve afterwards.
>>17110176
Yeah. Derailing a thread about funny looking rocks on Mars for personal amusement is so 2009. I mean, NASA might be hiding some secret message in the thousands of pictures of the same rocky hellscape. It would be unforgivable to inject any critical thinking, or to actually look at the pictures for 5 seconds with a rational mind. Such an act would permanently devalue the internet... nay, the world as a whole by derailing such a momentous dialogue for a few cheap giggles. It would be even worse if such a scumbag kept on it to try and steer discussion from the OP's noble intent, toward sarcasm and making fun.
For. Shame.
>>17109215
A)most things on mars are technically strange.
B)assume everyone is hiding something about everything.
>>17109215
thats not mars. its nevada or utah. mars has a lot of iron oxide on the surface. also known as rust. it has practically no real atmosphere to interfere with light so the red color you can see with the naked eye when mars is in view from earth should be depicted
note mars looks almost like a red star from earth not mud brown
>>17110256
Kek
>>17110256
Hahahhaa, retard.
>>17109226
I'm missing something here? All I see is a fuckin rock
>>17109309
What if humans originally came from Mars and they terrafromed earth after they nuked themselves to oblivion
>>17109521
Ancient people were more amazing than we give them credit for. Construction and engineering feats that are truly amazing, but have to be attributed to aliens because people can't be awesome. Why? It's a little silly, don't you think?
>>17110024
>I knew as soon as I saw how crude the pictured stonework was.
ur fukin dum m80
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta_Prohm
>>17109278
BIGFOOT ON MARS?!
>>17110415
I saw this thing in person a few months back. It was a trippy experience.
>>17109215
>"hiding something"
>spend millions of dollars to get a robot to Mars to take photos they then release to the public
What in the fuck is wrong with you?
>>17110395
>Ancient people were more amazing than we give them credit for. Construction and engineering feats that are truly amazing, but have to be attributed to aliens because people can't be awesome. Why? It's a little silly, don't you think?
This, a lot of people don't realise just how much practical engineering knowledge people had back then, they could build anything their tools and materials allowed them too.
>>17110432
It's basically because they know they couldn't do it themselves, so they assume no one back then could do it. Their own ignorance is the stage for all of their beliefs.
>>17109273
Obama?
>>17110442
That explains the whole birth certificate deal. ayy lmao
>>17110442
Uh oh, Mars is shitting out another one for us...
>>17109881
the pyramids were made of granite. stone does not "break where it wants", it follows the laws of physics. Granite splitting was used by the Romans much later in making large smooth granite blocks, and could easily have been used with the metals available to the egyptians. Drill a series of holes along the line you want and force wedges into the holes, the granite will almost always split along the line.
>>17110457
More specifically, you use wooden wedges and then use water to make the wedges expand. Which is simple as fuck, but smart as fuck compared to what ancient ayy fuckers would have you believe.
>>17110458
Why is this not further studied??? Only legit depiction ITT.
>>17109613
Make sure to jump to conclusions without googling stuff first.
>>17109956
DUuu uuu uuhh. Oh gee uhh nasa should really step up their uh game guyz.!
Relevant as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPraEH2KoY
>>17109215
it's a canadian crab
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2015/12/where-on-earth-are-nasas-rovers-sending-pictures-from-devon-island-canada-2501120.html
>>17109215
I don't think that it's completely crazy to assume that earth is the only habitable planet in the solar system. I mean now that we have actual evidence that mars used to be somewhat like earth and have an atmosphere like earth is it to crazy to think that we may have not started on this planet? People have discovered that the reason for alot of our problems are because we are basically on the wrong planet. It's not the right conditions or not what we're used to. The reason people have back problems is because of the gravity on earth, mars being alot less than earth. And why hide it? Because then we might actually think outside our box. The 16 original families (the same bloodline that runs the earth today) have made it very easy for a person to get distracted and keep working and paying taxes. If you don't think you're being distracted look at your day. Everyone here watches tv, maybe not everyone (I only watch netflix if i do watch something) but still. We have these industries that keep our heads full of excess information like celebrities, world conflict, exploration of space (or so we're told. what if we've already explored the moon, earth and other planets but just act like we are just getting into it to keep people thinking that we're not capable and cant. Even though we at this state can't and aren't capable.) movies, tv shows, fast food with chemicals in it to make you lazy and ignorant. It's not that these things just came to be. Well maybe in the beginning, but once people realized that they can control people and make them go to work and pay no attention to other affairs they take advantage of those things. We've only been on this earth (so we're told) around 200,000 years. Think about that. The universe is something like 14 billion years old, the earth being 4.5 billion. 200,000 years in even a billion years is extremely small. Personally i think that we've been here for millions maybe even a couple billion years.
>>17109257
>I know, I know, when one the NASA brigade does it, you call it "image enhancement" but, when a third party does color correction you scream, "IMAGE MANIPULATION!!!1!!"
>>17109690
>>17109828
>>17110395
the records say they were built in 20 years
I doubt we could do that in 20 years
>>17110478
>>17110478
>Make sure to jump to conclusions without googling stuff first.
Oh the fucking irony.... in this same fucking thread I spent like 30 min searching legitimate scientific journals for legitimate sources.
Read, dipshit. I honestly tried. I nursed that mofo like a dying child. But feel free to refute me more. Honest, I enjoy the discussion - as previous discussed ITT that you didn't even bother to read.
>>17110533
Egyptians were superior record keepers, until it came to their reputation. Any /his/ in here?
>>17110507
WUZ
>>17110544
>Like all accept science and knowledge everything happens to be the way it is until it needs to be some other way so the status quo can survive and everything can still be claimed to be a certain way.
>>17110545
ROCKS
>>17109778
Venus, baby!
Actually, we should do Venus first.
It's easy to set up in the Earth-like altitudes.
Heres what actually happend to us Humans.
>>17109372
This guy gets it.
Real science is already +/- 60 years ahead then what they teach us/show us. Ever since the roswell incident they reversed engineerd the alien space craft. Also, right now as we speak, (the last 10 years the real important wars are fought in space) there is a space race to mars between US / EU vs China / Russia. As we've seen with the moon race, that turned out to be a massive war that the US lost. Not against russia, but they lost the moon because of the aliens that resident over there.
>>17110600
SHIET
>>17110671
I say we build a giant space ship and kick the shit out of those snooty moon shitters. I bet the main body of Aliens doesn't like them either.
>>17110586
>Like all accept[able][ed] science
I never brought science into it... what agenda are you pushing? I was trying to have a legitimate discussion. I may be wrong, but if you were calling uncle when I asked for /his/ opinion you should reconsider your position.
Am I just reading you wrong? I hope so.
>>17110126
Is that Chris Christie?
>>17110513
>using back problems as evidence
You know other animals have issues with their backs due to gravity right? That's natural. Imagine keeping a relatively large unevenly distributed weight that fluctuates on a system that is able to flex, bend, and generally move all under gravitational force. You really don't think that regardless of earth's or mar's gravity wouldn't strain the system over time? And this isn't even taking genetics into account.
The better question would be: how did our technology degrade so rapidly to a reset if we were capable of interstellar travel? Did we just reset everything for shits and giggles?
>>17110671
You don't even know. Long before the Roswell incident, there were several reports of IMMENSE bombs being detonated in the southern US.
One such case correlates with MANY atomic bombs being detonated in a row, which itself correlates with a plan (actually in the books) to launch a literal CITY ship into space using an Orion propulsion. Literally the first mention of such things.
Get on my level, faggots.
>>17110632
I'd definitely like to see Venus explored in my lifetime, but isn't it too hostile for our current tech?
Again, I'd fucking LOVE to see us do this. I think we'll go to another moon/asteroid/comet first. Although, if we got more hardened tech I could imagine us going to Venus in a heartbeat.
Many people ITT said Saturn (probably just cause muh satan), but what the fuck would you even land on? If you say a moon, why not just say we're visiting that moon?
>>17110415
I saw this thing in person a few months back. It was a trippy experience.
>>17110666
satan confirms
>>17110666
weird that this correlates a little with my very first memory of a ufo flying away and this weird mental connection with the occupants who were scary ass lizard things.
mars has life
it looks like little worms
screencap this and wait for the day when they show you what it looks like.
I'm not kidding.
>>17110739
proof
>>17110741
just wait a few years. I can't disclose
>>17110739
Did the worms survive the nuclear explosions?
>>17110764
they're like tardigrades and are adapted to the planet
>>17109257
what the fuck is that google translate shit
>>17109792
They ahould check uranus next
>>17110776
>tardigrades
>>17109313
is that fucking mr.meseeks
>rocks
Stop giving me hope.
It's bad enough there won't be any serious space expedition in my lifetime for me to witness.
>>17109318
it doesn't prove a single fucking thing, douchebag
>>17110359
There's a lemon behind that rock. Ssssh
>>17109990
the tool was slaves who were scared of stories about sky gods
>>17110776
What is their replacement for oxygen then? There's almost none on Mars.
all you ancient alien people don't give human beings enough credit
humans made all this shit because we are smart as fuck
>>17111059
not on the surface
remember that where there is water, there is a higher probability of life.
>>17109234
this
>>17110691
I didn't say it was evidence asshole. Just read it somewhere and thought it was neat
>>17109778
Europa, Enceladus, or Venus but they'll never be done with Mars...
>>17109273
Sheeeit
>>17109904
>You know, when a suspect seemingly has an explanation for everything, the cops become more suspicious.
>so we found your friend dead at the bottom of stairs
>she must of fallen
>where were you the night she died?
>with my friends in a dinner
>but she broke her neck
>probably because of the fall?
>she had signs of dehydration
>maybe she... didnt drink any water?
lock him up boys
>>17111685
>maybe she... didnt drink any water?
The girl needed water, by the way.
>>17111551
You used it to support your big post about how humans don't seem to be built for life on Earth.
Don't get all butthurt because that guy doesn't agree with what you're saying and has reasons to refute it.
>>17111691
yo what
>>17111703
OP needs water.
>>17110747
>I can't disclose
>can't disclose
>can't
>disclose
:^)
>>17109887
Classic John Q. Citizen post
>>17110045
> I was born just in time to enjoy the golden age of gaming
top cringe
fucking terraformars
We have niggers and sand people even in Mars
I have a few...
If you like, I can continue tomorrow...
and by a few, i mean over 300.
>>17110692
>[citation needed]
>>17109215
Indeed, there is a vast government conspiracy involving NASA, the CIA, the NSA, the FBI, and the Post Office to hide the definition of the word "pareidolia" from the American public.
All I see are rocks...
You guys just see what you want to see because of apophenia.
>>17111700
Not sure who's butthurt here but it's not me. I was just saying. You're on paranormal board. If you think every single comment has to be fact and nobody can think up their own ideas then you obviously need to find another place to be. And i'm not saying i dont agree with you... There is nothing in my comments that says i don't. It was just an idea. Lots of people have ideas, are you going to be there to tell everyone they are buthurtt if they respond to your annoying posts? lol.
>>17110692
>several reports...
>(actually in the books)...
>first mention of such thing...
Can you point to one of these please?
>>17110015
Of course not. This is /x/, where NOTHING has an obvious or non-spoopy explanation.
>>17110359
That right, A rock on FUCKING MARS, like how the fuck did it end up all the way there?
Why do rocks on Mars look so weird?
Serious question, like what is it due to?
>>17109951
You sound smart, educated and intelligent, I bet you have an outstanding job!
>>17111906
Like gaming will just stop before any other better consoles cam come out
>>17109273
Why is Jimi Hendrix on mars?
That looks like a rock.
It's a rock.
It's a rock it's a rock it's a rock rock rock.
It's a rock it's a rock it's a rock rock rock.
It's a rock it's a rock it's a rock rock rock.
It's a rock it's a ROOOOCK it's a rock rock rock.
>>17112344
>we really like dolphins
Kek
>>17110691
Yes moron. It was for shits and giggles.
No other explanation could enter your tiny mind so that's what it was.
They landed on Mars in 1962.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qns9kEyjAY
>>17110015
What a fucking retard. I don't even believe in ayyy lmaos but to say rocks attacked in file on a walk with nothing to cause pressure on its sides is pants on head retarded to
See me after class
>>17112191
Simple, Mars has the most powerful dust storms ever recorded, by far. Every rock on the surface is essentially sandblasted regularly.
>>17110359
That's what NASA wants you to believe
>>17112965
Why would NASA release photos of Mars or the sun or the moon showing things they didn't want you to see, when they could release basically no photos at all except for a handful of carefully vetted photos and no one would even care?
>>17112384
Fantastic. There is no refuting this one. CLearly this fsfis a reald video and not . There isa p orrof on the youbtbue ancd rtis is it.
By the way, you may want to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_3
>>17112373
I have a feeling you didn't understand anything that guy posted. Just a hunch, since all you did was read half of the last sentence and knee jerk to it without realizing the entire remainder of the post is probably saying the same thing you believe.
>>17109313
inb4 nirvana
>>17110359
I think it looks like a piece of an ancient statue/sculpture that has long since crumbled.
>>17109371
Some of us still can dream ;_;
![test[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QvDFObG.jpg "test[1].jpg")
>>17112349
BAM nostalgia. Wow.
>>17110692
> Long before the Roswell incident, there were several reports of IMMENSE bombs being detonated in the southern US.
>a plan (actually in the books) to launch a literal CITY ship into space using an Orion propulsion. Literally the first mention of such things.
i'd love to read about that, it sounds amazing, can you drop some links or books please?
>>17109309
I'm the type of guy who can never settle down
>>17112319
You care about thiese things too much
>>17114185
IM THE WANDERAH
