In 1976 the Tehran UFO incident was witnessed by thousands and confirmed by both the iranian air force and the US team sent to investigate. Why isn't this incident more widely known in the west?
I think you know why.
>>16965472
Tell me what you think?
>>16965433
Redpill me
>>16965595
Dude, just Google it. There are a lot of legit sites you can check out. Incident is one of the best documented UFO encounters. Which is why I ask the question - why was it down played to the point where hardly anyone has heard of it?
>>16965817
I googled but found something that's better.
>UFO Case Review - Japan Air Lines Flight 1628, 1986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f3X1LDCaJE
>Founded in 1908, every U.S. president since Theodore Roosevelt has visited the club, and all since Warren Harding have been members. Most have spoken from the club's podium. Others who have appeared at the club include monarchs, prime ministers and premiers, members of Congress, Cabinet officials, ambassadors, scholars, entertainers, business leaders, and athletes. The Club's emblem is the Owl, in deference to wisdom, awareness and nights spent working.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Press_Club_%28United_States%29
Some of the videos from UFO Case Review and other videos on youtube points to National Press Conference aka National Press Club.
Why are most of the ufo sightings spotted by officials and not the public? Isn't that weird?
>>16965988
The public or "anonymous source" reports it to officials. Who's testimony comes first? Who is first interviewed? The official or the public?
because the government doesn't want you to know about aliens, duh, try to keep up, OP
>>16966029
or they're just shilling
>>16965433
Between 1982 and 1986, in Westchester county NY, an estimated 30,000 people saw a completely silent mile wide UFO. Highways were empty as people pulled off the road to stop and join the crowds of people gawking skyward. Thousands of people called the cops, thousands of cops saw it and had no one to call because they were the cops.
If you go around asking older folks if they saw it, like half of the time they'll tell you exactly where they were when they saw it and how unbelievable it was to see this giant fucking thing just floating by without making any sound.
Unsolved Mysteries and even Dateline did full stories on it.
The official explanation was that a group of pilot friends all took off in their cessna's, turned off their guide lights, stopped talking to air control, and flew tight aerobatic formations, at night, for years, without getting in any trouble because no such arrests were made, even though it's thoroughly fucking illegal to stop talking to air control and turn your lights off in the busiest airspace in the country.
Why isn't this incident more widely known in the west?
>>16966103
Yeah- this is the one that always gets me- the so called 'Hudson Valley wave' went on for years, thousands of people reported it including cops & the military, several tv programs about it yet you still get skeptics going 'hurr wheres the evidence'. Think they tried to explain it away with 'groups of microlight flying in formation at night with lights on' even though people had reported mile wide objects moving silently, sometimes at incredible speed, but people were so desperate for an 'explanation' that they accepted that and it all went away- back to sleep everyone....
>>16966131
I mean, people here didn't believe that explanation or forget seeing it.
And on the bright side, skeptics can't touch this one. Occam's razor works against them. Were thousands and thousands of people insane or mistaken for obscure reasons -- or did they just see what they say they saw?
>>16965433
In 1952, a bunch of UFO's chilled over the whitehouse for the better part of a month. Basically every time, jets were scrambled to make them leave, but, whenever the jets returned to base, the UFO's returned to the white house until they decided to leave. At one point, a pilot was ordered to engage a UFO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C._UFO_incident
http://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ufo-government5.htm
http://worldhistoryproject.org/1952/7/12/1952-washington-dc-ufo-incident
Obviously swamp gas amirite?
Ignoring it works in their favor, whoever they are. If you give an obviously bogus answer and then just stop talking about it, what are people going to do? There's nothing you can do.
>>16966297
no witnesses, no names ?
>>16966103
>thousands of cops saw it and had no one to call because they were the cops.
lol!
>>16965433
Maybe the SR-71 was in area, could result in the US pretending to not know what it was. Also could of been Meteor shower/Saturn and general incompetence.
>>16966430
>Probably swamp gas..
>>16966396
Holy shit
>>16966396
sauce?
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>>16967177
4chan.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAjxY8brKtA
anyone got info on this? If it's in fact fake, it's certainly not gay since it's the best home made editing work ive ever seen
>>16968511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wRRcamfHy0
more
>>16966396
I saw a series of posts like this as well, thought it was autist memeing
>>16965433
i've heard of it even though i only have a passing interest in UFOs. as far as i understand, there is no photographic or video evidence so i think that makes it totally uninteresting to the majority of people who don't really have an interest in this kind of stuff. personally, i agree, that it's very interesting that it was regarded as such a credible sighting and it was the first "serious" sighting i'd heard of that hadn't been debunked, but since we can't see it ourselves, there's not much more to say because it will probably remain an unidentified object.
>>16966103
>>16966131
>>16966197
Wow, i haven't heard about this one before.
>The official explanation was that a group of pilot friends all took off in their cessna's, turned off their guide lights
true blue
>The Hudson Valley sightings, in which an estimated 7000 witnesses saw gigantic formations of lights drift silently through the sky north of New York City, spanned more than 13 years through the 80s and early 90s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfevVrSDb-g
>>16969040
i don't really have much of an opinion, but has anyone pointed out how many airports there are in this general vicinity? i feel like it's worth mentioning.
>>16968999
>1976+39
>Trusting photographs and video
>>16969058
It's also worth mentioning that the size of the aircraft reported, could not fit on any of the runways at any of those airports.
People here are 100% used to seeing airplanes coming and going from westchester on their drive to work. We see dozens of commercial jets a day.
No one was mistaken about what they saw. No one.
>>16969402
>no one was mistaken
No one had a video camera either. Despite the fact this happened for decades nobody thought about recording it.
Aircraft on approach appear to be lights "miles wide", silent, and in formation. Depends on your angle, time of day and weather conditions. First time I saw that shit from Red Rock looking towards McCarran I almost ran and got my camera, until I realized what it was.
The slight elevation changes, course deviations and more lights appearing in the distance made it quite pretty.
Looked like orbs falling from a mother ship.
>>16966396
It's just a weather balloon or a drone. Go make yourself a tinfoil hat
>>16966396
It's just a weather balloon or a drone. Go make yourself a tinfoil hat.
It's just a weather balloon or a drone. Go make yourself a tinfoil hat.
>>16971057
>>16971058
luminadi confirmed
>>16971010
There were videos. Also, it was the early 80's, not everyone had video cameras.
Aircraft on approach do not appear to be miles wide, nor are they silent. They appear to be around a hundred feet across, and the rumbling jet engine noise is fairly unmistakable. This is either a flagrant lie or you're seriously retarded.
People reported a massive flying wing design, floating along silently, at a low rate of speed. They also said that it was directly overhead, not off in the distance.
Additionally, Southern NY is one of the most populated airspaces in the world. Everyone who lives here sees dozens of planes a day, and usually a few at night too: departing from NYC, heading for NYC, holding for westchester, and also taking off from or landing at westchester. No one was mistaken. We know what planes are.
>>16972017
how fucking delusional are you, you stupid piece of shit? spreading this garbage around, it almost seems like you're shilling. honestly, if you're going to believe in everything you hear then I have some snake oil to sell you. you should have been aborted.
>>16972147
>unsubstantiated string of adhoms in a topic discussing a highly documented occurance, official explanation of which doesn't hold up to scrutiny
We all know who's the shill here buddy
>>16972147
Has anyone really been so mad as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>16972017
>Aircraft on approach do not appear to be miles wide, nor are they silent. They appear to be around a hundred feet across, and the rumbling jet engine noise is fairly unmistakable. This is either a flagrant lie or you're seriously retarded.
You know what makes the characteristic sound planes do? Breaking the sound barrier. Planes on approach don't make sound because the sound hasn't reached you yet. They pass over, and then you hear the rumbling
>>16972269
yes because passenger planes break the sound barrier
>>16972269
>They pass over, and then you hear the rumbling
Even if passenger planes could break the sound barrier, the reports were that it made no sound as it passed overhead: so it couldn't be a supersonic passenger plane either.
>>16972168
wut
>>16972269
No they don't you fucktard, passenger aircraft stay just under the sound barrier to avoid engine strain and noise pollution.
It's pretty stupid how far skeptics are reaching on this one. It's as though none of these people have been near an airplane in their lives.
>Hurr landing planes look a mile wide.
>Durr you can't hear passenger jets because they're supersonic.
Just to restate, new yorkers see dozens of planes a day. To put this in perspective, new yorkers see RAIN (sky water) once or twice a week.
It was not a plane.
>>16972147
what the fuck triggered you so hard anon?
he didn't even call you an asshat for being wrong or anything
>your whole post
literally just what the fuck.
>>16972940
That's just the way skeptics are.
>>16965433
>Val Johnson incident:
On August 27, 1979, Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson of Marshall County was on duty, driving not far from the North Dakota border, when at around 1:40 a.m. he saw a light through his side window. It was obviously not on a road and looked too glaring to be a car headlight.
He first thought it might be a small plane on or very near the ground. He turned left on another road to try to get closer to the light to identify it. Suddenly, the light moved toward him, travelling so fast that it almost instantaneously was upon his car (covering an estimated mile and a half).
Johnson was blinded by the brilliance of the light and heard glass breaking, then lost consciousness.
When he returned to consciousness, the car was stalled and had skidded across the highway. He felt sluggish and shaky. He radioed headquarters, at 2:19 a.m., to request assistance. Soon another deputy arrived, who called an ambulance.
The doctor who examined Johnson found him to be in a mild state of shock.
His eyes were irritated as if Johnson had suffered "mild welder's burns," and Johnson couldn't stand to be exposed to any bright lights.
The patrol car had very peculiar damage. The inside headlight on the driver's side was smashed but not the one to its immediate left. There was a flat-bottomed circular dent on the left side of the front hood, about a half inch in diameter, close to the windshield.
There was a crack in the windshield on the driver's side, that ran from top to bottom, with four apparent impacts. The electric clock was running 14 minutes slow, as was Johnson's wristwatch.
The shaft of the roof antenna was bent over at a 60-degree angle, starting about 6 inches above its base.
The trunk antenna was bent over at 90 degrees, but only near the top. No damage occurred to the car's regular antenna on the front hood. Essentially, all the damage to the car occurred on the left, or driver's side.
>>16967631
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY TENDIES!
>>16965433
I don't say I'm a ufo fanatic but is fascinated by it and this is the first time I've heard of it. Thanks for the info OP. Looks like I have some homework to tonight lol
>>16973077
don't generalize. i'm skeptical but i try to be tactful. there's a special kind of "skeptic" that just spews contempt in all directions because it makes them feel superior.
If UFO's don't real, then like, why are all these government agencies acting like they are?
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/ufo/index-e.html
https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO
https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ufo/
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos
>>16965433
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/sseop/images/ISD/highres/STS100/STS100-708A-48_3.JPG
>>16973113
>Dat space debris.
>>16973090
It's hardly a generalization. Skeptics who maintain composure and don't resort to personal attacks are a minority.
>>16967631
Oh look it's the guy who says roleplayers again.
>>16972269
>passenger jet
>sound barrier
>on approach
Bluepillers are retarded as fuck, more at 11
Its a fucking you dumb cunt
>>16965433
Every "UFO" sighting prior to 1991 was just our military testing different weapons/jets/etc
That's why there hasn't been any big "sightings" since 1991, because the cold war ended and the government didn't have to keep its new weapons so well hidden.
Now it's all about them nukes baby, and America loves flexing its muscle with them nukes.
>>16973077
>>16972940
Thats just the way shills are...
>>16966396
Do you remember during the UFO wave of October 2010 there was seeming one guy on here persistently posting in every thread, insisting that anyone who thought something strange was going on was mentally ill, and literally pleading for them to seek psychological help?
>>16975017
>That's why there hasn't been any big "sightings" since 1991
Bullshit, Chicago O'Hare airport 2006.
>>16973084
spooky as fuck to be honest family
>>16966349
yes a shit ton apparently
>>16966103
>thousands of cops saw it and had no one to call because they were the cops.
why did you write this
also, the cops can phone up a nearby air force base or the local airport to see what they think
>>16969040
>an anonymous police officer saw it.
a deputy clerk saw it.
people started calling in.
most sightings were unreported.
But they estimated several thousand witnesses.
several officers saw it.
neighboring county airport radar tracked it.
another man estimated 5,000 witnesses
12 police officers saw
a danbury county police chieft saw it
Several witnesses reported their own personal encounters but no names.
A witness named bob pozzuoli (one man) captured it on film.
Let the advertising begin.
>ALL WERE INVOLVED
FAA
Project Blue book
Journalists
I'm just saying....
>>16966430
SR-71s dont have the bright lights described or have radar returns "resembling a boeing 707"
did you even read it? its damn cool
>>16965433
I had no idea when I posted this that it would get so much interest. Thanks all!
>>16965923
>17 November, 1986
>17 November
Huh. Cool.
>>16966396
>IDs
>2015
>Taken from project blue book.
I'll just leave this here. But look at those numbers. WOW.
>>16965433
Because it was weather balloon and nothing more.
>>16980581
I don't know whether to love or hate this meme.
>>16965923
This fucking enormous object was recorded by civilian and military radar.
And a former FAA supervisor said some USAF and CIA guys confiscated the evidence.
Truly scary.
>>16965433
Prove it.
>>16973084
Love this one. Those fucking welder's burns on his eyes.
Speaking of burns, let's not forget the ionizing radiation burns the Cash-Landrum family experienced here, what with the dermal scars, nausea, vomiting, etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-Landrum_incident
>>16965433
When military aircraft chase UFOs it means shit is getting real.
>>16966103
I saw something like that once.
>be me 15-16 at time
>walking to friend's house
>going down street with no lights
>look up and see black crescent with those little jagged tails you see on stealth bombers behind it
>only reason I can see it is because it's blocking out stars and is a different shade of black than sky
>stop and watch it move silently across sky
>shape was easily identifiable, it was either low and silent or high and really big
>it goes past the tree I was partially standing under
>I move to see it again but it's not there or I can't find it.
It's hard to explain the size of something you see in the sky, I'd say it was twice as big as the moon though. The only thing I think it could be is a b-2 spirit since the state I live in bases those, but since when do military planes fly low over civilian airspace with no lights? I'd also swear that the front of the aircraft was more curved than a b-2. That's the only thing remotely UFO that I've ever seen.
>>16981188
Stealth blimp? Depends on how fast it was going though...
>>16981237
Again hard to gauge because I'm not sure how high it was, but it took about 30-45 seconds to move across a third of the sky. It wasn't super fast and if I had to describe it's movement, I'd say "eerily gliding". I drew you a shitty info graphic.
>>16981264
Almost reminds me of the Phoenix sightings (not the lights, since those were flares).
>>16981114
What.
The.
Fuck.
>>16973084
Skeptically I would say ball lightning.
Its gnarly, I wouldn't want to experience it, but there's nothing specifically extraterrestrial about it.
>>16981237
Hadn't heard of stealth blimps before now. Can totally see why you think it could be one, silhouette is strikingly similar.
>>16981527
I'm skeptical of the ball lightning suggestion. Why would electricity ricochet off a car hood and an antenna?
Looks like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQNvkJPigiQ
>>16973098
>20. Routing and Transmittal Slip from Louis E. Foster, DIA with a DIA summary sheet and US Defense Attache report on the sighting of a UFO in Iran on 19 September 1976
>everything about that file
Holy fucking shit. I'm amazed they allow shit like this on the public record.
https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/routing_slip_ufo_iran.pdf
