Welcome to the Left-Hand Path General!
It won't be a part of Occultism & Magick General because of many reasons, but mostly because LHP is not just about the "occult" and "magic(k)" - it's a philosophy and a way of life.
I think it's not the first Left-Hand Path General, but I've never actually seen one, so that's why I started this now.
We can discuss here anything LHP-related: Satanism, curses, philosophy, occult and esoteric methods and yes, even sp00ky things.
Please don't post anything off-topic, like "Jesus will save you!", "Wow, so edgy" or "You are all role-players"!
While the LHP is egocentric and selfish, please try to remain polite and civil!
Question: why do many LHP-practitioner hate anti-cosmic Satanists?
I checked Temple of the Black Light and they have some very interesting ideas.
Also: any non-LaVeyan Satanists here?
I'm not an atheist (can't even understand how could be this atheist-theist war on 4chan so violent these days), more like a simple occultist, and LaVeyan Satanism seems to be more like a philosophical system than an occult one.
And the LHP is an occult AND a mundane thing, for me.
While spiritual Satanism sounds good, many branches are just ex-New Age groups, with all their Kundalinis and chakras.
>>16942208
So... Just out of curiosity, what exactly is the difference between different kinds of Satanism anyway? I didn't even know there was more than one kind actually.
What would make one decide to become a Satanist?
I know these are general questions, but I never had the chance to ask someone these things before.
Bumping with another question:
Am I the only one here who thinks that Luciferians are also seem to be "misguided"?
It's not the right word (also there's the language barrier, too - sorry) - I mean they are "nice guy" Satanists, philosophers and armchair-occultists (but many of them aren't even into the occult).
They are gnostics.
And while Gnosticism can be interpreted as Satanism, it's not really that.
(Or: every Satanism is Gnosticism... I don't know)
>>16942243
Believe it or not, but the Wikipedia article is quite helpful with Satanism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism
I'm not trolling, it really is.
There are many types and philosophies of Satanism (theistic, atheistic, etc).
"Satanism is a broad term referring to a group of religious and philosophical beliefs. Satanism includes symbolic association with, or admiration for, Satan, whom Satanists see as an inspiring and liberating figure."
![American_Grindhouse_[2010]_.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/K7Rg5l3.jpg "American_Grindhouse_[2010]_.jpg")
If you're not experiencing blowbacks from your sigil practice, your sigils ain't really working.
>>16942254
wut?
Check the Left Hand Path folder in this occult library for some interesting books:
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ!VcAGSBrY
Thanks and credits for the Occultism & Magick General!
>>16942208
Satanism is an attempt to either do something in spite of God or religion, or be totally ignorant to holiness, or the embracing of materialization rather than spirituality
>>16942223
>black light
Come on
>>16942232
Kundalini and Chakras are not satanic. Anything good in the present day and age is made bad. Give this some time to evolve and the age that embraces "Satanism" and atheism will have a long list of negative consequences.
>short memory, no "moral" standard
>complete exaltation of materials, constant rebirth rather than attaining the abode of "God"
>dualistic nature of "they don't accept our freedom of religion to be Satanic, we need unity" to "let's get rid of all the good religions now that ours is dominant"
>>16942243
There is not many differences, they all apply the same idea that they want to be free to do whatever they want, which sounds good on paper, until the action they implement is just a hole they are digging for material gain, or spiritual attaining in the name of Satan rather than God, using mysticism for evil rather than good
>>16942244
The name "Lucifer" refers to a Babylonian King, and over time is associated with "The Devil"
Anyone called Luciferian doesn't make them a "satanist". The label of "heretic" is "anything that is against us"
For example, if a Gnostic denies the Creator God and worships the Transcendental Force, they are considered Luciferian and heretical, when they may indeed have a true relationship with God
Gnostics were persecuted by the same people who say "thou shall not kill"
Whatever extent you take something, labeled as good or bad, or actually good or bad, ultimately the only one's who know is you and the relationship you have with God
Even Jesus was considered to be possesed by demons because He told the people at the time a way to transcend certain dogmas associated with religion and materialization at the time.
>>16942252
Wikipedia is satanism
"Come here for quick facts" and "don't do the research yourself"
Ever see the episode of The Office where Michael Scott uses Wikipedia to conduct a meeting?
We don't actually realize how dangerous places like 4chan and Wikipedia are for gaining resources and facts
>>16942261
Not easy to explain accurately but I'll give if a shot. I'm not a practitioner myself but my weird path has a theory that's fairly similar if I understand.
Everything has to come from something. Even things like forcing some of your will on the universe, that energy has to come from somewhere. So, in a xchamge fpr the little favors you ask for woth sigils (or rituals or runes or whatever your tool is, practice depending) the universe has to counter balancr the good with the bad.
A rune patern to keep you from forgetting hour lunch before work? Sure, but you're going to stub your toe once a week now.
You can keep it mild but you also don't accomplish much like that. It can be... A little much sometimes. So most occult practices have rules in place to keep people safe-ish and keep them from biting off more than they can chew. Rules/guidelines.
>>16942243
LaVey Satanism is generally atheistic, while there are other branches that are literal devil-worshipers.
As for becoming one, its all on personal experience of the world, personally I found the hypocrisy of the church, several supernatural experiences that chastised me, and the curious difference of characters in the worldly monomyth that I couldn't believe in. I think it's also important for us as people to care about ourselves and our fellow man.
>>16942394
>kind of tyre
>lucifer
Welcome to /x/. Where, once again, no one has even the first idea of what they're talking about.
Can someone please tell me what the pentagram represents? I've been doing some reading on the subject. but it seems like there is multiple answers.
The pentagram has nothing to do with satanism in general.
It has been used by nearly everyone, from jews, to templars, to pagans, etc. throughout history.
So what does it really represent?
Good luck? protection?
>>16942545
4 elements + quintessence (5th element, literally).
If the 5th is upwards, then it's points to the Light (symbol of RHP), if it's downwards, it points to the Dark (LHP).
>>16942559
So the meaning is defined by whether it faces downwards or upwards?
Please tell me some more about this?
What is the difference between RHP and LHP? It's not as simple as good and bad... right?
Satanism, atheist..doesn't matter. There are infinite ways to embrace Jesus Christ as your personal savior.
>>16942593
The white knights really do see it as that: What goes around comes around threefold, this type of magick is bad, this one is good. It's a way to justify a guilty relation to magick or trying to stave off the stigma of witch that has been perpetuated through the ages. Magick is like a gun, it's a tool and it's moral justifications are within the heart of the practitioner; if you use a gun to kill children for no reason you're an asshat, if you use it to stop someone breaking into your house and raping your wife, morally justified, etc
Left hand path seems to be complete one. You're open to the reality as it is, without fighting anyone/anything.
>>16942619
I see.
Tbh, the reason I'm asking is that I have always find the pentagram facinating. Not because people associate it with satanism, dark powers etc. I'm not really into that. I'm not really into white knight stuff either. I'm about beeing yourself, do what you want, fuck other peoples opinion, fuck the limits of society and authorities. I hate organized crime (religion) and how much damage it has caused to people.
I plan to get a pentagram tattoo. In my head, believe it or not. I don't give a shit if people start to label me a satanist. The symbol is more than, good and bad. I just want to take the symbol back, if you know what I mean... So I guess it should be facing downwards then. lol
>>16942603
See OP:
>>16942208
>Please don't post anything off-topic, like "Jesus will save you!", "Wow, so edgy" or "You are all role-players"!
>>16942619
Nice explanation, Aesop!
Also:
>Right-Hand Path:
Followers of a God / gods; "good guys" (not necessarily), believers of karma or any divine force that judges you; those who wants to "become one" with a god, etc
>Left-Hand Path:
Followers of no God / gods; no religious morality; no dogmas whatsoever; no authority above them; egoists (in a neutral and natural way); self-preservation is important
Some says (and I think they're right) that everybody follows the LHP, and RHP is a definition for those who can't take the individual responsibilities for their acts.
>>16942699
>See OP:
Sue me!
>>16942682
As much as I throw my cock around in the threads it's just nice to find respective people. Most definitely read The Satanic Bible. Also, if you're gonna get the tattoo, consider the implications, like I have one on my chest, and even the most atheistic black girls suddenly become Bible thumping Christians, white girls just get giggly, awkward, and leave lol. Its increadibly empowering though and reminds me every time I see it that I am a Satanist, powerful, responsible, that I carve my own path in life and know what's best for me. Do your reading, make sure you won't regret it, some people would wake up the next morning and feel they've cursed themselves with the symbol of the beast, others as myself consider it a baptism in blood, my own blood, and show it as a symbol of self-truths.
>>16942223
Because its basically just chaos and thus relatively pointless
>>16943383
>Because its basically just chaos and thus relatively pointless
But Chaos contains everything (including everything's opposite)!
It's made of infinite possibilities!
The TotBL basically says that Chaos offers you power, but because it also contains everything's opposites, it seems to be frightful, creepy and "evil" for us.
>>16943399
I find it redundant
>>16942232
>LaVeyan Satanism seems to be more like a philosophical system than an occult one.
It's both
>>16942815
Nice ink. I'm working on a personalized SoB design myself for my shoulder.
>>16942223
Because the "anti-cosmic" crowd are apparently too dense to realize that order arises naturally from chaos and is, in fact, one of its properties. Their "adversarial" relationship with their own existence is rather silly.
>>16942355
Nice pic.
>>16942501
I'll assume you mean King of Tyre and not a kind of tyre.
The "King of Tyre" passage has no mention of "Lucifer", it's just believed to refer to him by people like you who desperately need some backup, no matter how slim.
Morning Star, Son of the Dawn was an official title and was addressed to Nebuchadnezzar. The passage in Isaiah has nothing to do with any angels, fallen or otherwise.
The only other reference is when Jesus refers to himself as the Bright Morning Star. Suck on THAT, christfag.
So edgy.
>>16942545
I've always been told that the pentagram represents the elements and directions (depending on how it's drawn) bound into the form of a perfected man. It's a symbol of the end goal, to be complete as a person. The inversion isn't evil or satanic or whatever so much as it's the negative of whatever ideal you're working with. So, to me the use of the inverted pentagram by satanists comes across as an ironic statement about Christianity.
Can someone aware me on the instant cough curse that happens. It lasts for as long as the caster seems to want it and it fucking hurts.
I believe that a god exists. But I don't think he judges you by your actions, because he/she/it/whatever gave you free will in the first place. Heaven and hell is just good ol' money collecting church propaganda. But where do satanists go when they die? Do you believe in the afterlife? Multi universes?
>>16943753
>But where do satanists go when they die? Do you believe in the afterlife?
Nowhere and no.
>>16943722
Satanists are edgy roleplayers
>>16943792
are you a Satanist?
>>16943792
And most importantly do you speak on behalf on the rest of the Satanic church community?
>>16943792
what's the fucking point of being a satanist then? just shows the level of retard we're dealing with here.
>>16943837
You know.. Believing in Christianity or any other organized crime syndicate is like believing in a fierytale.. But if you're a Satanist, you actually believe in a fierytale within the fierytale. Satan could have been of extraterresterial origin according to some ancient astronaut theorists...
But that Satan character has mostly been used to scare people to pay up. He's just as real as the boogeyman
>>16943812
Yes.
>>16943817
I speak on behalf of the philosophy of Satanism as its universally agreed on within the community that adheres to it.
>>16943837
Don't ask questions if you don't want genuine answers.
>>16943854
you don't have any answers on anything. you're a clown.
read his question >>16943753
then read your answer >>16943792
then read them both again. if you haven't realized why you're a fucking retard at the end of that, you never will.
>>16942208
How do I properly worship The Great Cthulhu?
>>16943866
>you don't have any answers on anything. you're a clown.
Again: don't ask questions if you don't want genuine answers. If you're not going to be mature enough to even attempt to understand something, then don't waste your time throwing a tantrum.
Go about your way now.
>>16943870
Masturbation, black candles, and Downs Syndrome blood.
>>16943871
fuck you. go fuck yourself with your I'm so edgy and mysterious roleplay schtick you fucking assclown
>>16943870
> practicing a meme religion
you can't because the necronomicon doesn't exist
>>16943883
You seem a bit upset.
>>16943891
i am
>>16943837
>what's the fucking point of being a satanist then?
(Not that anon)
Satanism is about freedom, power and individuality.
It's about rejecting slave-mentality, dogma and any kind of master / ruler.
In a time when masses rule and the voice of the one is overpowered by the voices of many, you either become a sheep or a wolf.
Satanism is about learning how to be a wolf.
And yes, it's just my personal opinion.
And yes, it's really difficult to live by these standards - sometimes it feels impossible.
Nobody likes the troublemakers, those who are going against the grain.
One more thing: maybe I'm more like a LHP-practitioner than a Satanist.
I understand why people criticize them because of the Christian understanding of Satan.
I'm with those who believe that Satan is not a Christian figure - every religion has an adversary figure; it's a symbol.
>>16943753
> But I don't think he judges you by your actions
Bad thinker confirmed. God does everything, punishes, blesses, forgives, curses, blesses. EVERYTHING. You're dumb.
>>16943911
>getting this autistically buttfuriously angry because someone doesn't think like you
>>16943916
If there is a god, he will have better to do than watch your fucking live and evaluate if you are good or bad. If he exists, then he is so big we are not more than bacteria to him. Why would an entity this powerful and this big care about us?
>>16943920
oh shut up you twit
>>16943912
>>16943922
Just have your mom make some chicken tendies and go outside for 5 minutes.
>>16943916
Who are you to judge my thinking then?
Bad thinker... Come on.
>>16943405
>>16943547
>Because the "anti-cosmic" crowd are apparently too dense to realize that order arises naturally from chaos and is, in fact, one of its properties. Their "adversarial" relationship with their own existence is rather silly.
Now that's the point I differ from the average chaos gnostics.
As you said, Order comes from Chaos; indeed.
But I believe in the good old Carrollian cosmology / cosmogony, and I think one can use this knowledge of Chaos to overcome the limitation of Order.
So, just as you said, deconstructing one's reality and existence is nonsensical and cannot be a proper goal for anyone.
But Chaos can be the key to the so-called "occult" - and cheating Order might be a pretty good goal.
>>16943911
Why's that? We're here for discussion and you're welcome to do just that.
Instead of shitposting like a child, try engaging in conversation. I don't agree with many religions and find them stupid, yet I still talk with said religious people to better understand them, and, thus, better criticize them.
Gentlemen: >>16942208
>Please don't post anything off-topic, like "Jesus will save you!", "Wow, so edgy" or "You are all role-players"!
>While the LHP is egocentric and selfish, please try to remain polite and civil!
So how do you all apply Satanic magic & witchcraft into your lives? Any interesting experiences?
>>16943921
There IS a god and he isn't above watching everythign you do because he can watch every single thing in all the existence at the same time because he is without limit and his awareness has no boundaries. You are watched by multitudes who are omniscient.
>>16943931
Someone who can sort the wheat from the chaff. I'm perfect.
>>16943998
>There IS a god
Present evidence.
>>16943998
>Claim to know that there IS a god
>I'm perfect
What do you believe in may I ask? Are you a Satanist? Pagan? Final Fantasy XIII?
>>16943942
Hah.
>>16943975
I'm not a satanist but I can and do curse people for getting in my way or giving me the evil eye. Daily. Because hate deserves plague. I blew sickness into a womans face today because she got the nerve to try to tell me when and where to stand and when to move. I cursed my brother today (finally) for all the punishment he gave me just because he could. And it will only get worse.
I can command devils and angels because I'm god.
>>16944005
Blessed is he who does not see but believes. Or "Fuck you bitch, I don't owe you shit. Find your own I'm not gonna take you anywhere with me to see anything."
>>16944015
I believe in god the father, the mother, and the child and in attainable perfected state. In blessing and cursing. In androgyny. In commanding everything from on high, never trangressing against my equals of which there are infinite. That is what I believe.
>>16944022
Please tell me more.
So what happens when you die?
so, because im totally utterly lazy to read whole books and this whole thread, can someone give me a quick introduction into all this left handed path thing thats going on? thanks.
>>16944017
>Blessed is he who does not see but believes.
Ok. I believe there is a tea pot orbiting Saturn that our telescopes can't see.
What now?
The reason I'm in here is becaus I'm in a cursing mood and that is a left-hand thing. My intuition says to kill my former friends.
>>16944024
You keep on.
>>16944027
You're right. If you can see it its real.
>>16944026
>can someone give me a quick introduction into all this left handed path thing thats going on?
Right Hand Path: subservient to God(s) and going along with a herd as a sheep.
Left Hand Path: serving yourself as your own God and being independent as a goat.
>>16944035
>You're right. If you can see it its real.
But I can't see it. I just believe there is.
>>16944017
>Blessed is he who does not see but believes
>>16944035
I'm not asking questions to piss you off. I'm asking because I actually wonder what you believe in.
Seriously. Where do you think we're going when we die? There is way more than this life here on earth. Just my opinion. I think life never ends actually. Never ever.
>>16944044
>There is way more than this life here on earth
Literally all evidence points to the contrary. Wishful thinking doesn't actually make something real.
>>16944050
Well, just think of how big the universe is. If we humans are the only one here... What a waste of fucking space lol.
>>16944042
Then its real somewhere. The world is infinite. horizonally and laterally. What can I say to you if you can't into lateral thinking? Nothing worth a salve.
>>16944044
We're going in different directions. Some people will go to the worst hell. Some will reside in the highest heaven. Definitely. No one born can ever lose awareness forever.
>>16944056
>Well, just think of how big the universe is
And?
>If we humans are the only one here
No one thinks this.
None of that suggests an afterlife.
>>16944050
Likewise, you haven't travelled across the universe either.
>>16944062
You seem like an intelligent person, and you're clearly more enlightened than the average person.
But seriously..Don't you get it? If there is a hell, we already live here. I can't really think of any worse place than planet earth. The planet itself is pretty nice, but the scum who lives here really fucked up.
>>16944067
No. But we know a lot about it and how it works. All evidence points to death being the end.
Of course evidence is always subject to change. But considering thousands of years worth of spiritual religion and 0% evidence? Come on.
>>16944075
This isn't hell. This is the middle realm. We just live in it at a time where it is between 3/4 and 1.0 hellish. It's called the Kali Yuga. It's still not hell though.
>>16943851
>ancient astronaut theorists
>>16944017
>I cursed my brother today (finally)
>>>/mlp/
Stick to the autism containment board
>>16944083
Kali Yuga? Dat be some Hindu shit, dawg.
If I'm not mistaken Hindus believe in reincarnation and the afterlife, and extraterresterials etc.. Why do you use Hindu facts to back you theories if you believe in the opposite? imho I think Hinduism is the only religion that is kinda close to how the world and the universe really work.
>>16944105
>imho I think Hinduism is the only religion that is kinda close to how the world and the universe really work.
Or you could try science.
>>16944105
I gave you the hindu name because otherwise I would have to give you a "Take my word for it." Christianity is not the opposite of hinduism. God is all.
>>16944105
Also because you can look up Kali Yuga and see the TRUTH in it.
>>16944142
Women/goddesses with serpents are so sexy.
>>16944136
>God is all.
Could be.. But I don't think god is a judgemental prick who keeps a blacklist of a bunch of sinners. Why would he do that? Because he makes the rules?.. I don't think so. That is how evil, greedy corrupted humans do. I think god exist. But I think god is good.
>>16944156
>Could be
No could. Is or is not.
>But I don't think god is a judgemental prick who keeps a blacklist of a bunch of sinners.
I didn't say he was. I said he notices all. And he curses and blesses accordingly. Punishes and rewards. And reveals the way out according to his righteousness which is in line with all righteousness.
God is good. He curses, see: www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/book-of-curses-does-god-forbid.htm
>>16944110
>Science
Science is onto something. But science costs money. So the global warming scam is more profitable.
Pic related.
>>16944163
Science creates nothing. It only dissects and destroys what god did. It's evil not good.
>>16944177
I've never understood what black magic is. I mean if the LHP, RHP stuff is true, which i doubt. What has black magic to offer?
Light magic is healing, scrying, tarot and shit?
Black magic is... curses? what else?
>>16944191
There is no black or white. Magic is magic. The only difference is the imaginary perception you have of it.
>>16944259
This.
>>16944191
It's judgement. magic can be "You're good" or "I would see you increase." and it does it. Or it can be "You've wounded or tried to wound my spirit. Lemme help you GET FUCKED."
>>16942415
That explains what happened to me then. Back when I was experimenting with some stuff, I happened to put a sort of "restriction" on someone. However, this had a negative effect on me for a brief period of time.
>>16942815
this dude gets it
Can anyone explain in a simple way, with examples, what LHP is and what it's aiming toward?
(sorry, english is not my first language)
(also I'm drunk)
>>16943912
this as well
>>16944419
I'm sorry if I don't understand but
>"You've wounded or tried to wound my spirit. Lemme help you GET FUCKED."
Does that mean LHP is meant to inflict pain/destruction to yourself or other people? No other goal or further views?
>>16944437
Yes. It is suffering and punishment to the dog what bit you. It's easy.
>>16942545
4 elements + spirit.
if it is inverted, the 4 rule the spirit. I.e. a sign of carnality.
if it is upright, the spirit rules the 4. i.e. the proper order of things.
>>16942593
rhp: getting right with God
lhp: trying to kill and replace god because you're too edgy to get along with him.
>>16945173
>>16942593
RHP is the path of the masses. It takes what is already established and uses that. It deifies something external. From the world, to the mind. A RHP would be a priest, using the 'rules' and path of the bible to experience the world.
Buddhists monks are a great example, trying to reach liberation through the path told to them by shakyamuni-buddha.
LHP is the opposite. It is the outliers that follow this path. Where LHP is all the fish traveling up the stream, LHP travels against the current. Because traveling against the current will make you stronger. LHP creates itself. instead of listening to the minds of others, a practitioner listens to their self, above all else. It deifies The Self.
Where RHP are the priests and monks following religion (as a specific example), LHP followers would be Jesus and Buddha themselves.
LHP isn't in itself evil, it is going against the stream of the world that is looked down upon.
The world says "this is how things are"
RHP says "Okay then"
LHP rebels and says "does it need to be like this?" This rebellion is seen as evil, like Lucifer rebelling against God. Questioning the status quo, and introducing chaos into the established order.
I find it funny all these people reading and completely following the works of occultists and others like crowley, and leVey. Thinking since they follow something like Leveyan Satanism that it puts them on the Left hand Path.
Unable to see all that they are is a sheep in a wolf's clothing.
>>16945469
Meant to say
>Where RHP is all the fish traveling up the stream, LHP travels against the current
>>16943870
Ask Eris.
The whole idea of the LHP is kinda silly. Essentially it's an Eastern/Tantric term but has been misappropriated by Westerners as meaning something Satanic and "adversarial".
>>16942682
>Getting a tattoo on your head
Your going to regret that later.
>>16944017
You sound like a massive faggot.
>>16944259
Yes. To add, it's a form of aggression towards the unseen to do ones biddings: whether for what one considers to be good or bad. Nevertheless, it's aggression, which at the end is bad. In order for one to elevate, he/she must not be aggressive.
For paths, there is only one way, it might seem at times more left handed than right or more right handed than left.
>>16944017
I really enjoy your response to the last part. This view point makes me consider some truth to what you write.
>>16944050
Certain wishful thinking can bring about events. There is power in wishing, so handle with care.
>>16944017
stop larping faggot
>>16942208
Not a satanist/LHP practitioner, but I'm a neutral party with a fair bit of scholarly weight on both paths.
I'm a fan of necromancy in particular, especially the Papa de Muerte & Qayinistic styles.
>>16944191
White is beneficial, Black is destructive.
>>16946134
>White is beneficial, Black is destructive.
That's racist.
>>16945469
Beautiful answer, thank you!
What do you think about liberation techniques, by the way (from Carroll's Liber Null & Psychonaut)?
>>16946385
but its true
>>16945469
no I like the way I said it better.
>>16945173
>>16945173
Not necessarily. It's all about timing and intent (how you've endeavored you actions to be felt).God gives bread exactly when it is needed and it is good. The devil promises bread and gives it at exactly the wrong time, when it can no longer help you function spiritually and it is bad. Both give bread, one supports the other destroys.
God curses those who blaspheme his spirit because it is righteous anger. The devil curses all and everyone at all times he can except the chosen of god because he has no power over them and that is bad.
All the times god and his prophets cursed or killed: www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/book-of-curses-does-god-forbid.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/another_bible_myth.htm
>>16945469
>it deiffies something external.
You don't understand. God is within. He is the crown of each person and he is individual and he is one. He IS the crown.
You LHP people use LHP to mean selfish evil. God modeled humans after himself. Right hand and left hand. He blesses and curses. Satan didn't invent the left hand path. He invented and spread self centeredness, being out of lockstep with the righteous all so people are where they should be when they shouldn't be there and are not where they should be when people have good things to give them. God and his children will come and kill all you idiots and take the earth.
You're mixing the meansing into something that is not real with reality anywhere in all of existence.
>The world says "this is how things are"
>RHP says "Okay then"
>LHP rebels and says "does it need to be like this?" This rebellion is seen as evil, like Lucifer rebelling against God. Questioning the status quo, and introducing chaos into the established order.
>>16945469
No. The world says "This is how the world is"
Righteousness says: Ah. Thanks. I'm gonna add this (is this good? All: yeah) And this and this and oooh shit this is amazing and this....
Evil says: No. I wanna be the center of everything. The world doesn't need this or this (rip rip) or this (this is good for ME) or this...
LHP =/= satanism
Satanism =/= of buddha or christ
Satanism > God
LHP/RHP = God
Anything else is wrong.
>>16945584
NO you. *ptoo*
>>16945586
No. MAgic isn't agression only. Not the way I do it. It's direction. "Hey, I know best. Better than you. If you do this thing you will like the result in the present and in the future."
Only one someone fails to mind me and gets in my way do I get aggressive, left hand path "I TOLD you I was going to use that space for good and immediately your feet ran that way to create and obstacle. I'll damn you with no children and mange."
Too many people think LHP = selfish, out of tune with reality, powerful when that is SATANISM.
LHP = punishment, curses
RHP = Reward, blessing
>>16946385
He speaks the true true senpai desu. Literally 100% 110% true
>>16946566
>>16946567
>>16946574
>All those implications...
Followers of the LHP don't (necessarily) believe in (a) God.
Anyway: most of your statements are pure nonsense, 2bh fäm.
God this, God that, I know how things are, you don't... man, you're in a LHP thread!
>>16946748
YEs. And God has a left hand too. This isn't a satanism thread. And truthfully I know things you don't. be mad or don't be mad. I'll still know what I'm talking about. I wish someone would ask me about what I know. It saves lives to know what I know.
To stop gossip and meddling in your own affairs place alum powder in a bag and place the offenders name in the bag. Just like alum puckers the lips they will shut the fuck up about you and yours.
LHP - endarkenment. You learn to affect this plane of existence. (Me against the world)
RHP - enlightenment. You learn to affect other planes of existence. (One is all, all is one)
2 sides - same coin. 2 paths - same destination.
>>16946759
Tell us what you know then. Save some lives.
>>16946774
No. If that was wise I would have done it already.
>>16946813
Think of the children! Lives are at stake.
>>16942208
>it's a philosophy and a way of life.
What's the difference?
You misunderstand The Left-hand path if you think it requires people to be egocentric of selfish.
>>16946813
*ahem*
>if I was wise enough for that
No, no, thank You.
>all these people arguing about what is the LHP
>only a few proper Satanist posts
>tripfags with Messiah-complex
>muh God
>not a single pragmatic approach
/x/ is really the cancer
>>16946854
messiah COMPLEX? Take that back.
>>16946854
I think you should take that back. He put curses on people. You have been warned.
>>16946872
It's true all curses and demons are mind to send or ward away because I am of the light.
>>16946892
>I am of the light.
We all are.. Even the unenlightened and corrupted souls..Believe it or not
>>16946895
If there was no such thing as of the dark then there would be no words to describe it. /that
>>16946901
ALLAH OAKBAR!
>>16946872
I can take them off if it's really a problem "anon."
>>16946895
If that which you call light is not light, you should not call it light.
>>16946918
are fairies real?
>>16946918
I can call it light, I can call it dark. Nigga shit, I can call it Rosie O'Donnell if I want to.
>>16946918
>"anon"
he isn't me. Neha
>>16946966
You're a fool. Go die.
>>16946970
I think it's time to add some valuable to this thread.
This is your chance!
Tell us about the Left-Hand Path!
Anything interesting, really.
About Satan, curses, rituals, spells, etc - anything!
>>16946980
>add something valuable
fixed
This Satanist thread sux big time! You guys are nothing but a bunch of fags
>>16946985
>This Satanist thread sux big time! You guys are nothing but a bunch of fags
tripfags ruined the thread, tbqh family
>>16946966
Well, no. I wasn't talking to you, just to light. Light gets really offended when you insist other things are made of it. It's mean.
>>16946970
That post was direct at "anon." Why would you reply, Adonisgi?
>>16946985
I reflect that.
>>16946980
Okay. If it isn't already obvious (it should be) I am NOT a SATANIST. But I am a person with magic and a left hand and enemies that need getting GOT. So I curse them, send demons after them, or do what needs must be done without paying for anything because the demons reward is the blood of the damned.
I don't do rituals or spells, normally. I just call up the demon with my soul and send him where I will him. He is not allowed to refuse because I have the VOICE which cannot be converted. That's it really. It's easy af.
>>16946985
It does. Anons couldn't hang and got hung up. Not my fault. They didn't have to be baited by my baitless words.
>>16946995
I'm not stupid. You put it in quotes to imply that Anon was just me without my name.
>>16946997
I see.
Could you recommend some readings on how to achieve such powers?
I have many enemies to punish.
>>16947004
No. I was born with my power because of past life piety and achieving. No maybelline.
>>16947011
What kind of powers? Enlighten me m8
>>16946995
>>16946941
Are fairies real or not?
>>16947011
Ahhaaa!
You must be an otherkin, then - I bet you have a lot of pony, vampyre and enchanted motorcycle friends, huh?
This "I was born with powers" shit is the typical defense of the most pathetic role-players and special snowflakes.
I was hoping that you're not just talkin' and shitposting, but here we go: you are.
Please go and stop abusing ths thread!
>>16947019
Calm your tits. I can do anything that is right. Before you say "Fly aroudn, make yourself as big as the world and say "Hi, Anon." It wouldn't be right so I won't. Before you say "What does right even mean?" I say "Good for all whether it maketh feel good or suffer." Before you think "I don't get it." I say "I know.
I can still do anything I want because I only ever want what is right.
>>16947027
Yes.
>>16947029
"I heard someone lie about it first so I can never believe the truth." wew lad. 0/10 way to live senpai desu m8 git gud
>>16947035
Redeem yourself, then: Offer something to this thread!
Not just jerk around about how awesome you are, but give us some interesting, valuable information (LHP-related, of course)!
Then we will believe in you.
Until then, you are noone.
>>16947044
You don't define my self worth, smallfaggot. You aren't even a blip on my self worth radar. YOU are NO ONE.
Nothings going on in here. No ones asking anything I can answer. I don't care about the small stuff because I don't need it to work my magic.
>>16947082
>my magic
Implying you have any "magic".
Prove it, faggot!
I dare you!
>>16946941
Yes.
>>16947000
No I just know who made the post is all.
>>16947127
Don't provoke him. I bet he's gonna curse you real bad now. Unless you take it back..
>>16947127
I just cast a magical hepatitis spell on you. You should probably see a doctor.
>>16947082
When someone says, contribute to the thread, and you say, no one is asking anything I can answer, you're namefagging to be a namefag. Besides that point, I have no idea what the hell is happening in this conversation than the most confusing garbage of dick measuring I've ever seen. Also your "Good for all whether it maketh feel good or suffer" sounds like a six grader read Crowley and butchered it in a paper about morality because they had to do a report on The Giving Tree.
>>16946980
Please, let us do so. I'm interested in if anyone has attempted ritual with a large number of people, there are a few in The Satanic Rituals I've dying to give a hand at, and slowly have been gathering enough open-minded individuals to complete a large scale working, curious if anyone has, how it's effects the mentality of the performers, the group dynamic involved, and the actual outcome of such a device.
>>16947127
I curse you.
>>16947150
Blah blah blah
>>16947127
>>16947141
>>16947155
I TOLD YOU!!
>>16942208
who do i ask to ensure my success in business?
>>16947150
Count me in.
>>16947082
A question. What is your [Truth]?
> rhp is escaping [samsara] to [nirvana/heaven] through laws/discipline/dog
> lhp is destroying [the cosmic forces] to [thaumiel] for the freedomz
> lhp is just edgier rhp
> neither dog, nirvana or destroying the universe are real
> chaos magicians literally believe in cthullu
is all magic just roleplaying?
>>16947244
Nobody knows for sure. So I guess everybody is free to make up their own ancient astronaut theories about the "thruth".
>>16947239
It is. It is not mine only but everyone's. It does not wane. Only its observance wanes from the eyes and hearts of mortals.
>>16947244
That's not even a little bit true.
> rhp is escaping [samsara] to [nirvana/heaven] through laws/discipline/dog
Nope. That is observance of dharma/god's law not RHP. RHP is blessings and protections.
> lhp is destroying [the cosmic forces] to [thaumiel] for the freedomz
> lhp is just edgier rhp
Nope. LHP is merely cursing and destruction. ITs only freedom is freedom from the blessings and salvation of god i.e. Bondage. It is known.
> neither dog, nirvana or destroying the universe are real
Fuck you.
> chaos magicians literally believe in cthullu
>>16947244
There's plenty of theories involved, such as all magick is a means of tricking the unconscious through ritual symbolism to use it as a means of altering understand, perception of reality, and manifesting one's wills into our world. With Chaos Magick they believe that belief can be a tool, and therefore if enough people believe in Cthulhu then it develops its own power. What ever your theory is, try it, test it, if it works, go for it.
>>16947155
What you don't realize is we are already cursed in the most glorious way.
You curse others and will only find you've been cursing your self.
>>16947228
Anyone answer this question
>>16947244
>>16947320
You're both pretty much wrong. Like not even fucking CLOSE.
http://www.detoxorcist.com/left-hand-path-and-right-hand-path.html
>>16943998
>There IS a god
I guess that settles it then.
>>16946410
I honestly haven't read the entire thing. You gave me nice reminder to do so. Thank you!
From what I remember, there was some wisdom in the book, but a lot of useless knowledge. Most of the things spoken of are said to cover the truth. Like specifically laid out rituals.
Symbolic and metaphorical rituals...
Willfully obscuring the truth to protect 'those not ready for it' or some such; is to me a mark that the person doesn't have a deep enough understanding of the truth to say it simply.
At the end of the day, everyone's path is different. Follow whatever resonates with your self.
>"It is a mistake to consider any belief more liberated than another. It is the possibility of change which is important."
This is the most important thing to me that stood out from what I remember
>>16947490
Good. Finally. Whew.
>>16947506
Someone can read sarcasm.
>>16947228
A competent businessman.
>>16942208
you guys are fucking stupid if I do say so myself
the occult is nothing to mess with unless you've given up on life, given up on God, given up on your dreams, etc.
>>16947745
ITT: Things that don't apply to fairies.
>>16947745
>You've given up on life
>given up on God
>given up on your dreams
Marriage?
>>16947676
Who?
>>16947745
ITT: Things that don't apply to androgynous shamans.
satanism, black bible, magick, all bullshit
>>16942232
Are you asking for genuine devil worshippers of something
>>16948107
I think it's stupid to claim to be a shaman. You either inherit the title. Or you're just interested in/or practicing shamanism.
It's almost the same as claiming to be a prophet...You just don't do that, cos ppl won't take u super serial.
>>16944035
>If you can see it it's real
Someone call the newspapers, I saw a bunch of strange lights on the sky coincidentally at the same time I took acid.
>>16948107
>>16947834
your souls all return to God when your time is up
and your deeds whether good or evil are accounted for, even supernatural abilities
and even if you've been granted lives over a thousand years
not even the earth is guaranteed forever
y'all are fucking up lol
and pagans are just posers paying for magic
>>16948140
Familial shamanism is not the only way to become a shaman. I was and am called by spirit. Fight me about it, know-it-all faggot.
>>16948145
I didn't say it was physical. ;)
>>16948155
nuh uh
>>16948175
You call me know-it-all faggot? HAHA.
Adonisgi..I don't want to fight you, you know that.
I thought we were friends actually?
>>16948184
Well not anymore then. It is not for you to tell what I know. That is a psychic vampire TRICK. I curse you.
>>16948155
>souls
People still use that outdated technology??
I thought I outlawed bad karma eons ago.
>>16948155
>not even the earth is guaranteed forever
Oh, my mistake. I thought you were a peaceful entity. I can see now that you're an act of war. I'm not sure how to respond to you yet but I recognize your declaration of war.
>>16948192
Put your guard down, relax and breath...
Nobody here is out to hurt you, make fun of you or whatever.
What's with your attitute? You can talk to me about everything.. you know that right?
>>16948192
>I curse you.
I uncurse you and I curse anyone that casts a curse in my presence.
>>16948214
The only curse I've seen in this whole thread is the cancer you've infected the board with.
>>16948214
yeah well im rubber and your glue and anyything you say bounces off me and sticks to you
>>16948200
Now THIS is roleplaying.
>>16948210
Liar.
>>16948306
I would never lie to a fellow roleplayer, dawg.
>Kali Yuga
>>16948313
>>16948323
I'm not lying. I can't stand lies. I'm a truthseeker, you dig?
>>16948206
not rping
the world has been ending
>>16948337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjOg9IbJdXI&feature=youtu.be&t=2m15s
2:15
>>16948381
Do you like fish sticks?
Is dat yo point, nigga?
>>16948256
Who does greater wrong than he who invents a cancer concerning 4chan?
>>16948275
That's not nice.
>>16948287
Glad SOMEONE got the joke.
Nothing is more dangerous than a mislabeled joke if it's a fairy that told it.
>>16948370
The WORLD is, yes, but not the EARTH. Learn to differentiate the two before you do something you can never stop regretting.
>>16948477
Are fairies real?
>>16948493
they would only call themselves fairies
if they are not humans they are Jinns
plain and simple
Any of you chaps had any experience with Amdusias?
I've had the word in my head all day, despite having never heard it at all before. After a quick google sesh, I'm decidedly concerned; especially since I haven't felt the desire to listen to music at all in the past few days.
What do /lhp/? I'm an asatru-fag if that matters.
Any1 here done LSA before? Should I take it?
yay or nay?
>>16948200
Wandering "spirit" (aka demon) jelly of our souls detected.
thats great
its looks like laveyan satanism
>>16942815
fgt
>>16942815
They all leave you, flabmaster.
>>16948531
Yes, and yes.
>>16948493
Yep.
>>16948573
I've never done LSA, should I take half first?
What to expect?
>>16943998
>I'm perfect.
Are you... with "The Vipers"?
I hear they are a real strong gang with real strong "snake oil"!
Cobra Kai!
Karate Kid!
;^}
>>16948493
Yes, stop asking.
>>16948505
Tenshi.
>>16948548
<3
>>16948575
LIES AND I guess just lies.
>>16948588
The way I've taken it was using Morning Glory and HBWR seeds; 250 seeds, and 5 seeds respectively. Soaked 24 hours in water. It was awesome. I don't know what form you have yours in, but I would recommend making your own from seeds.
>>16948615
It's on a really small blotter. Think I'll take half and see what happens lol
>>16948624
Good luck my friend, hope you have a sitter, stay safe
>>16948631
Thanks. No sitter, but I think I will do fine. I will just take half of it first.
>>16946854
Yea, I don't get it... no real powerful entity would ever need to CLAIM they are powerful.
Pitiful.
>>16948666
Word. Nice trips nigga
>>16948593
The only love I accept includes mouths on my cock.
>>16942699
There are plenty on the LHP who believe in karma. The universe is filled with laws, and you can't get something for nothing. Black magicians seek to tip the balance of karma to their benefit just as much as white magicians. Those in the LHP just do this in an egotistical manner, rather than for the benefit of all.
Some time ago I was really focused on getting a new car. A specific car that is.. I imagined how it would look and all. What color etc etc.
I did this for a while, and one day I said to myself. I really want this car... and I also want my mom to stop nagging.
A few months passed..and I forgot about all this But suddenly I'm the proud owner of an Audi, the right color and everything. And mom is not bitching at me anymore. WTF?
Is this magic? Am I now in debt to karma or any other cosmic force? Or was it just the power of the mind at work here?
>>16948868
I'm so happy for you!
Next time imagine a better world for all of us so I can give a shit about how your mommy buys you expensive cars due to making beastiality porn.
>>16948890
I have tried to think and visualize a better world for all of us to live in. But it seems I'm just making it worse.
>>16946854
God was created explicitly to derail LHP threads. If you REALLY want to get LHP, you'll need to notice something about yourself that nobody has ever noticed.
>>16948749
There seems to be a lot of that going around these days.
I blame god, personally.
>>16948868
No debt; it was a favor.
>>16948903
earth is pretty much Hell on low heat
it's going to crack open eventually
>>16948919
No debt; it was a favor.
Please tell me some more about this.
>>16949004
What does god owe you, by your count?
How would it benefit me to make a pact with devil or demons? I'm honestly curious. Also is there any danger? Or any unwanted side effects? Seriously I'm considering it
>>16949091
Every man finding the perfect woman in his eyes to submit to him...
...everything less and we are sold short and should therefor destroy anything near the force of "God" until it starts producing proper dimensions...
>>16949004
There may be a debt for all you know. All energy must return to it's source of origination at some point.
This is some excellent work here ladies and gentlemen. I just love the multitude of theories, the anger mixed with constant bickering, and all the complex terminology that belongs to the different niche doctrines and sub-doctrines. I'd say progress is coming along nicely.
>>16942815
By Jove, you're an edgy one aren't you?
Sexual orientation for your hand.
My hand is gay btw because it always touches my dick.
>>16942619
you are a fucking retard
>>16943399
Chais magician dropping by. Chaos is pointless, that's the point.
>>16949979
Been borend with Cosmos... myighdyr ol' phoe!
>>16949979
That whole post was pointless but you have a point.
>>16950248
I think I want to the wong thread, this is ether the debate everything bord or the troll vs troll bord,
( >fill free to "curse" me, I would like c cups think you)
>>16944156
the creator god of this world (the demiurge) actually is imbalanced and corrupted, he was created by one half of a god pair who tried to create without her partner in the same way the original androgynous source god created her but the product of her creating without balance was the imbalanced god that created our physical realm, she took pity on man and gave humanity a spark of the divine, essentially balancing out the masculine energy of our universe created by the demiurge with her own feminine energy. Humans have the power to create and act as sovereigns and become gods themselves thanks to her. Our goal is to escape the physical realm of illusion and reach higher dimensions where we can create and interact unbound by the demiurge or his archons that feed off of our energy
>>16944340
tell us the story
>>16942682
it should point to your heart. or mind. or dick.
>>16949584
Adonisgi ruined the thread on purpose.
There are pretty hardcore shillings on /x/ and /pol/ nowadays.
I think many of us have noticed that one can never start a relevant conversation about anything serious.
It's easy to start "playful" threads on /x/, but when you start a gnostic thread, for example, powerful shills magically appear (usually tripfags) and they ruin these conversations in no time.
It's like discussing Illuminati or New World Order.
You just can't.
Well, of course, sometimes these threads survive, but the content is full of shilling, so you can't get anything interesting from it.
Also sometimes they just delete these threads - no, I'm not talking about the archived ones; they just delete them.
4chan is over.
It's full of bluepills and shills.
>Implying thelema isn't a philosophy and a way of life
Has anyone ever considered that you have two hands? I've always considered using both of my hands regardless of which path I walk. When one path is well worn, take the road less traveled. When both are rut deep, make your own path. Learn to juggle. Learn to swim. Point the pentagram by choice. It does not need a permanent, fixed direction. I think it is the truest fight of man, this polarization which always divides us. From it war arises. These names we make fake take us to our grave. Somehow, even in such enlightened crowds, we find ways to paint everything black, or white. Still. within the gnosis of this thread, the Satan battles the Christ. The yin and yang grapple for control. I dream that we may find the third pole, and within it discover a new peace. A new shade. Then we may truly, together, triangulate upon opun truth. One ring to rule them all and in the darkness, bind them.
