https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Byzy22cCtwpdOEM2bG00eXE2eTg&usp=sharing
inb4 xeno
>>15777172
who?
>>15777168
Seen this myself earlier. Some really fucked up things that those kids came out with And I hope they aren't true but I genuinely wouldn't be surprised considering all the bullshit going on now about the paedophile ring in thatchers government. Real fucked up shit and I hope I don't hear any more accounts of this
>>15777203
Oh, believe me.
If the people involved with it have it there way, you WON'T hear about it.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/the-world-of-mind-control-through-the-eyes-of-an-artist-with-13-alter-personas/
>>15777234
>>15777238
How is this still on youtube?
>>15777243
>>15777249
>>15777247
Better question, why is it still on /x/?
>>15777254
>Satanic Ritual Abuse
>Not paranormal
And so the shilling begins. . .
>>15777258
>>15777263
>>15777268
>>15777268
>>15777269
>>15777276
>>15777282
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>>15777289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EBowBPwNW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY-F5JoHoho
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gosch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/27/how-bbc-star-jimmy-savile-got-away-with-allegedely-abusing-500-children-and-sex-with-dead-bodies/
>>15777289
The second one is a tombstone for Brazilian war heroes.
>>15777292
We've been over all these.
For those who missed the last thread; OP (or some anon) tried over and over to convince that all of his links somehow proved SRA is going on.
Literally all of them except for Seville (who we already know about) were nothing Satanic. The only ritual abuse ones were Egyptian in occult sense and the Muslim rape cases.
He then tried saying Egyptian stuff is Satanic which didn't work because we have real occultists here who know their shit.
Then when all else failed he just started calling everyone "filthy kikes".
It's most likely Pet3r since he's already spamming the same pics over and over.
Oh and Pet3r also tried pretending like he was someone else recently (called his own trip "a random tripfag") and got caught red handed lying and samefagging. The archive of that thread can be found here
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/15764930
And here's the last thread on SRA
archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/15771572/
Feel feel to read and see how not only was OP shown to be wrong but threw a temper tantrum and started namecalling when he didn't get his way. Literally tried PRETENDING like something was there when there wasn't (in this case: something Satanic).
this makes me sick in the tummy
It's funny because I said and did all kinds of fucked up shit when I was a kid and was abused but it wasn't because of Satanism. It was from a Christian zealot relative.
>>15777349
So your only argument is he's wrong about something being satanic? Occult is all the same shit and people any way!
>>15777349
As the other person there, please seek professional help.
>>15777423
Who couldn't possibly have been pretending to be a christian zealot in order to have access to small children.
>>15777349
>Egyptian in occult sense
>not Satanic
Please:
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/books/chapters-from-the-egyptian-masonic-satanic-connection/
>>15777439
>if it's not woven from the beard of christ, it's satanic
>>15777439
Satan was invented by the Christians, buddy.
>>15777446
Pretty much.
>>15777447
>implying
>>15777429
>So your only argument is he's wrong about something being satanic?
Yes. Because that's how the whole "Satanic Panic" hysteria/hoax started.
>>15777433
>Who couldn't possibly have been pretending to be a christian zealot
Wow that's hardcore denial.
Yes they were just "pretending" when they came over and starting trashing someone else's home and calling everything "evil" and "of Satan". Then getting into a fight with my parents for letting me listen to "the devil's music" (Pink Floyd).
Know that "god warrior" clip on youtube? They were pretty much that. I wasn't sexually abused by them. Just got smacked and generally abused.
>>15777439
We've been over that. People can see the conversation for themselves.
>>15777452
Stop trying Pet3r.
Where's Xeno when you need him.
>>15777289
Is that from dark souls?
>>15777453
>We've been over that.
Exactly.
>>15777457
>S-satanism has nothing to do with ancient Egypt g-guys I swear! I wouldn't lie to you!
>>15777453
>They were pretty much that. I wasn't sexually abused by them.
Sure you weren't.
>>15777457
And you were shown to be wrong.
Again; that's Crowley in Golden Dawn garb. He was later kicked out/left.
>>15777459
You realize you're just reposting exactly what you did yesterday right? The same shit we discussed and you were humiliated when shown to be wrong? Then started calling everyone kikes?
>mfw the lack of education in this thread
>>15777462
I wasn't. I have no reason to lie because I hate them and their zealot bullshit.
The only relative I was sexually abused by was someone my age at the time and it had nothing to do with religion.
>>15777469
What else did you expect?
>>15777466
>And you were shown to be wrong.
You're projecting.
>>15777466
I'm going to tell you something that you need to know, and will know, at some time in your existence.
There are only two roads. They lead to radically different destinations.
There are only two spiritual fathers. They also lead to radically different destinations.
There are only two sides in this war. They too lead to radically different destinations.
Therefore, anything not of Christ, is of satan.
Any side that is not Chrit's, is satan's.
Anyone that does not belong to Christ, belongs to satan.
You're really just splitting hairs on what turns out to be an enormous hangman's noose.
>>15777473
>The only relative I was sexually abused by was someone my age at the time and it had nothing to do with religion.
Gee, Anon, how did you know....
>>15777473
some jokes are funny enough that you laugh every time you hear it.
also i'll just drop this here.
http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html
>>15777478
Preach.
>>15777475
I don't think you know what "projecting" means.
Really. People are free to see for themselves.
>>15777349
>>15777478
Biblehump elsewhere.
>>15777484
Because we were typical kids discovering sexuality. Duh.
>>15777486
It's not even funny. It's just sad.
>>15777489
Liar.
>>15777488
>samefagging this hard
>>15777498
See? Just as I said. You just start namecalling like a child when you're shown to be wrong or don't get your way.
I rest my case.
>>15777499
You literally do not know what that word means.
kek
>>15777495
laughter is how i deal with sad things. what next, i need a license to laugh? do i need a day pass?
>>15777478
Your life & perceptions are twisted around fables.
It's your whole identity & it defines the way you perceive this life.
It's really sad.
>>15777504
Liar.
>>15777510
It's not sad in the slightest. It's only sad to you, as you cannot convince me that your way is right. Ever.
>>15777475
>>15777498
You are aware that "baphomet" was
1. A mistranslation of "Muhammad" and used to slander the knights templars
2. Didn't exist until the medieval ages
Right?
And you DO know Egyptians had numerous animals as idols...right? Like birds and dogs and cats?
...Right?
>>15777511
>>15777459
Ofc it has nothing to do with satanism since it predates it
i bet you dont even know anything about any other religon exept christianity
>>15777517
Here's some Egyptian goats "playing" with children. But I'm sure you'll just say that it's a coincidence and that Satanism has nothing to do with goat gods or ancient Egypt.
>>15777528
>>15777528
>Here's some Egyptian goats "playing" with children
So did numerous other Egyptian animal idols. Some of them had bird heads and others had dogs (like Anubis). You're cherry picking.
>>15777517
Riddle me this.
How were the Templars accused of worshiping Bahomet, if Bahomet did not exist prior to the Templars being accused of worshiping him?
>>15777523
You have a dilettante's understanding of spirituality.
Protip: Howard Levy didn't invent "Satanism."
>>15777535
Does it matter the shape of the demon, or does it matter that the demon is under the authority of satan?
>>15777511
Holy shit, they made some statues of goats! This proves everything, because goats are absolutely inextricably linked with Satan worship and have absolutely no other significance whatsoever in any way, shape or form! The Egyptians definitely didn't raise livestock and consider that very important to their survival so it must be a Satan thing!
>>15777539
>if Bahomet did not exist prior to the Templars being accused of worshiping him
Read the first part again.
It was a mistranslation of Muhammad. It was then painted as a demon figure to slander them.
>>15777542
Well it does matter in historical and factual context. I'm sure it doesn't if you're a christfag who doesn't live in reality.
What? Now you're gonna ignore ALL that and just say "w-well w-who cares! its a-all s-satan anyway"?
>>15777543
Yup. A person is either a sheep belonging to Christ Jesus, or a goat belonging to satan. Hence the Sheep and Goat Judgment in Matthew 24, where the goats are cast into hellfire.
>>15777543
It's funny because the Satan character didn't even exist yet. And even if you do believe in a literal Satan then it still wouldn't work because "God" didn't reveal all that shit yet. So how could they have even known?
And why would "God" allow all these ancient people to think Horus and all those were the real Gods?
>because its man made ladies and gentlemen
There's about 3 remotely relevant posts in this thread. Why don't you all just fuck off?
>>15777547
It was never confused with Mohammad at that time; it was always the Goat of Mendes. Arabs are goats following the goat god.
>>15777547
>It was a mistranslation of Muhammad.
Ahchtually, Baphomet relates to the "Goat of Mendes" who was worshiped by the Ancient Egyptians
>>15777552
Faggot.
>>15777556
The rest of you I mean.
>>15777555
Satan was revealed to the very first human beings ever as the Father of Lies, the serpent.
>>15777557
>>15777558
Maybe this will convince dummy we're not the same person. kek
>>15777542
how do you know its not depictions of angles? or other deities
how can you possible tell that its a demon?
how can you possible tell that its under the authority of satan
how the fuck do you know christianity is the absolute truth
how can you not know that christianity was popularized by a bunch of romans who saw they where losing control of their empire and saw this as another way to control
>>15777541
no satanism was invented by christianity
as a means to make people fear what they dont understand so they would be easier to controll
>mfw it still works people are still afraid
>mfw i dont have a face
>>15777557
>It was never confused with Mohammad at that time;
Yes it was. Sorry. Denying reality doesn't actually erase reality.
>>15777564
Whatever. You're gonna be a little child and stick your fingers in your ears and ignore what anyone else says.
I'm out.
>>15777560
No, and I'm not flattered by the offer.
>>15777569
Do you mean how do I know, and you do not?
Or do you mean how do I know, when in your mind nobody knows?
Or do you mean, convince me of what you know?
Or do you mean, you disagree with me, and therefore cannot know anything....
This should not surprise you, but satanism was started by satan, as he desired to be worshiped as God. It didn't even start on earth. It predates humanity.
>>15777570
You have given no foundation for Mohammad being the genesis of Bahomet, rather than the Goat of Mendes.
>>15777568
He knows, he'll keep whining anyway. He can't help it, he's a slave.
>>15777581
7 seconds apart.
No RATIONAL person could explain that away....
kek
>>15777574
>i am typing a bunch of shit
>it makes me sound like a retard
>im better then you
>haha i know thats satan is real cuz god told me so in a dream
yeah sorry bro your not that convincing you just sound like a retard
altho i would love to hear how your so certain of what you speak of
>>15777585
>Occultists
>Rational
>>15777589
Because I know that the bible is the Word of God, and have studied it for a long time.
Getting revealed information from God is inherently superior to believing what lies the Father of Lies lays out there.
Truth > Lies
>>15777523
>>15777574
>This should not surprise you, but satanism was started by satan, as he desired to be worshiped as God. It didn't even start on earth. It predates humanity.
Satan never wanted to be worshiped "as God". (Although he was effectively as much like "God" as any being can and will ever be)
Nothing in Satanism claims you should worship Satan.
A real Satanist will end up respecting Satan for his skills, earthly and otherwise, as it is revealed to you, that's about it.
>>15777597
Isaiah 14
The Fall of Lucifer
How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
>>15777597
You're being deceived. Satan promises you that you can become like a God but you are a fool for trusting the Father of Lies.
>>15777580
>You have given no foundation for Mohammad being the genesis of Bahomet,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet
> the origin of the name Baphomet was a probable Old French version of "Mahomet"
"Mahomet" = "Muhammad"
>>15777594
You're mixing theology with historical documented facts.
You don't live in reality and thus should be ignored.
>>15777610
A wiki cite? That says probably?
No real cite?
>>15777581
>he's a slave.
Says the guy who kneels like a dog to an imaginary celestial dictator.
>>15777613
It's historically documented that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead, and christianity is nothing more than the belief that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead, validating His claims to be God.
But you can worship a goat headed demon, if you'd like. You just can't escape the consequences of worshiping a goat headed demon.
>>15777617
Amen.
>>15777614
Any source I give you'll simply say "nod gredibul!"
Feel free to research it yourself.
>>15777617
>It's historically documented that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead
OH GOD MY SIDES.
>But you can worship a goat headed demon,
I don't worship anything. I'm not a dog who rolls over on its back when kicked or a beggar. I also don't believe in talking snakes or magical fruits like a child.
>>15777601
>>15777597
I'm actually a Christian more than a Satanist...
In the sense I call myself whatever religion happens to have the most potent information for understanding reality.
My interpretation of The Bible places Satan as the most pure being.
I also consider every name of The Bible at the very least a different incarnation of the same being.
Lucifer is separate from Satan who is separate from The Devil.
> Satan promises you that you can become like a God but you are a fool for trusting the Father of Lies.
The interpretation where Satan is older than God means it is very easy to become like God... like a weekend course.
Becoming like Satan is a lifetime of trials, sacrifice and both logical and physical growth.
>>15777594
Oh you mean that word thats been translated a thousand times
most likely rewritten a hundred times because some faggot read something he dident like in it
not to mention most of it was written by some faggot named paul who said that women where evil and would ruin humanity
if you think that shit was written/dictated by god then nigga you stupid
it was written by humans it was dictated by humans it was rewritten by humans it was translated by you guessed it humans!
then 1800 years later some human picked it up and said ERRHMEEERGURRD I MUST TELL THE INTERNET BOUT TE EVIL SANTA
yeah sure buddy you go ahead and keep living by the "truth"
>>15777629
I don't believe in talking snakes or magical fruits either.
I believe in talking serpents, talking asses, and food for Gods.
>>15777614
>Modern scholars such as Peter Partner and Malcolm Barber agree that the name of Baphomet was an Old French corruption of the name Muhammad, with the interpretation being that some of the Templars, through their long military occupation of the Outremer, had begun incorporating Islamic ideas into their belief system, and that this was seen and documented by the Inquisitors as heresy.[26] Alain Demurger, however, rejects the idea that the Templars could have adopted the doctrines of their enemies.[27] Helen Nicholson writes that the charges were essentially "manipulative" — the Templars "were accused of becoming fairy-tale Muslims."[27] Medieval Christians believed that Muslims were idolatrous and worshipped Muhammad as a god, with mahomet becoming mammet in English, meaning an idol or false god.[28] This idol-worship is attributed to Muslims in several chansons de geste. For example, one finds the gods Bafum e Travagan in a Provençal poem on the life of St. Honorat, completed in 1300.[29] In the Chanson de Simon Pouille, written before 1235, a Saracen idol is called Bafumetz.[30]
>>15777640
Most pure? Dude's a snitch. A liar, a thief, a murderer, a failed revolutionary, and a snitch.
Pure.
kek
Satan = Lucifer = Devil
>>15777650
>I don't believe in talking snakes or magical fruits either.
You have to in order to be a real Christian.
>>15777650
>I don't believe in talking snakes
>I believe in talking serpents
Oh /x/ sometimes i cant tell if your just plain retarded or ironic
>>15777643
Translated more often than that, likely, and with tens of thousands of manuscript bits to demonstrate that it is 99.5% intact from several thousands of years ago, the differences being spelling variants and copyist errors. Nothing of doctrine whatsoever.
The scroll of Isaiah was even more pure. 99.8% intact and identical to today's script, with again the differences being spelling variants and idioms.
>>15777655
Snitches get stitches.
>>15777651
#rekt
>>15777629
>I also don't believe in talking snakes or magical fruits like a child.
Nobody takes that literally...
Except maybe in the sense a snake always says "sSssSSsS" and "Synsepalum dulcificum" is a pretty magical fruit.. (it alters your taste bud for hours, neat huh!?)
>>15777651
>Your own source says it's the Goat of Mendes.
>>15777657
Maybe read the second line of my post.
>>15777661
The serpent was cursed to lose its legs and crawl on its belly.
It therefore had legs prior to being indwelt by satan.
It was therefore not a talking snake.
>>15777671
>Nobody takes that literally...
Oh right. I forgot you can switch from literal to figurative in an instant.
God's word is apparently easily changeable.
>>15777668
Egyptian Mythology" by Veronica Ions, page 124, the author writes that Ptah took the form of a goat.
kek
>>15777629
Nice superiority complex there, sin.
How about, instead of just flat out dismissing something because, "lol that's stupid" you actually provide an argument to continue the discussion.
Or you can continue communicating as you are and we will ignore you.
>>15777677
>It'ssssssss all a conissssssssidenssssssss goyim!
>>15777677
>The serpent was cursed to lose its legs and crawl on its belly.
>It therefore had legs prior to being indwelt by satan.
>It was therefore not a talking snake.
That's a lot of mental gymnastics just to deny a talking snake in a book filled with even more utterly insane fairytale nonsense.
>>15777672
>>15777682
And?
>>15777682
The Goat of Mendes
Ptah the Egyptian God of Magick, knowledge and wisdom (an alias of Satan) *became* the goat, and sometimes a ram in the city of Mendes where he was worshipped as such. The Goat/Ram of Mendes represented the "Ba" which was the Egyptian word for the "soul." Ptah was considered to be a great magician and "Lord of the Serpents."1
>>15777655
>Satan = Lucifer = Devil
Wrong
satan = the opposer mentiond only once in the old testament (not using the actual name satan but its belived its where the name derived from) that one angel who told god to stop being an asshole to some guy
Lucifer = jupiter
Devil = christian construct said to be EVERY SINGLE DEITY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD EXEPT THE CHRISTIAN GOD
pretty good way to get followers and to keep followers if you ask me
>>15777643
>>15777666
Translated more often than that, likely, and with tens of thousands of manuscript bits to demonstrate that it is 99.5% intact from several thousands of years ago, the differences being spelling variants and copyist errors. Nothing of doctrine whatsoever.
I call bullshit
https://carm.org/lost-books
>>15777686
A sleestak?????
>>15777685
>How about, instead of just flat out dismissing something because, "lol that's stupid" you actually provide an argument to continue the discussion.
There is no discussion.
>>15777696
;^)
>>15777689
And therefore the origins of Bahomet were from Ancient Egypt, and not from 600 AD, and not from 1096 AD in the crusades.
>>15777692
Nope.
HaSatan is Satan
Heilel Ben Shakar is Shining One, Son of the Dawn.
Lucifer is a poor translation of Heilel Ben Shakar.
The Devil can appear as an angel of light (because he is).
Satan = Lucifer = Devil.
>>15777691
You're taking someone else's belief/religion and just throwing "Satan" on it yourself.
>>15777702
Except no. Read the wikipedia article. It's a theory. Not fact.
Even if it is then who cares. It's one animal God out of a thousand in Ancient Egypt.
>>15777693
Carn doesn't say any of those books belong in the bible. And they don't. No apocrypha, gnostic gospel, infancy gospel, etc., belongs in the bible. They aren't scripture.
In a similar fashion, Moby Dick does not belong in the bible, although it is a good book.
>>15777655
"Die Figur ist die Figur!"
And of course The Bible is built around framing Satan.
Don't you find it odd after all those accusations, SOMEHOW... Satan still holds some kind of court? He has some sort of followers? Forced or otherwise?
Again, being like God is a weekend course. Being an angel is a 5 minute course.
>>15777713
>Even if it is then who cares. It's one animal God out of a thousand in Ancient Egypt.
>>15777713
Yes. I am taking depictions of a goat headed god carved into ancient Egyptian monuments as fact that they preceded the crusades.
You know how people say it isn't carved in stone?
This is literally carved in stone.
>>15777717
How about, instead of just flat out greentexting something, you actually provide an argument to continue the discussion.
>24 posters
>123 replies
>>15777715
Not at all. I never thought of satan as God's adversary or God's opposite.
>>15777718
>LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU IT'S ALL A COINCIDENCE LALALA!
>>15777679
Nope, I don't take ANYTHING in The Bible literally, nor does anyone rational.
>>15777714
Lost Books
fragment dead sea scrollAre there lost books of the Bible? No, there aren't. But that hasn't stopped people from saying there are. The Christian church didn't establish the Word of God. Instead, the Christian church recognized it.
“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;" (John 10:27).
Indeed
>>15777718
>I am taking depictions of a goat headed god carved into ancient Egyptian monuments as fact that they preceded the crusades.
You're taking a random statue and just saying it is what you want it to be.
This doesn't change reality or facts. Sorry.
Did you forget about Anubis and all the other animal gods?
>>15777726
>Nope, I don't take ANYTHING in The Bible literally, nor does anyone rational.
You speak for all Christians now?
God's Word is instantly changeable?
Lol ok.
>>15777724
kek
>>15777726
Everything literal in the bible should be taken literally. Everything parabolic should be taken parabollically. Every metaphor should be taken metaphorically.
>Like I'm not trying to get 6 7's
>>15777730
An ad hominem cheerleading post that adds nothing to the discussion.
Boy you sure showed me.
>>15777728
Not one bit. I note that YHWH wrecked them all, taking His Chosen People out of Egypt, and leaving nothing of value behind.
Each plague, an attack on a specific Egyptian demon god. Anubis saw all of the firstborn males of Egypt die, and stood there helpless before Almighty God.
LaVeyan Satanist here (that's the atheist one).
We do incorporate some Egyptian mythology in our philosophy/religion as well as our rituals. Gimme one sec and I'll provide a clip of Magus Peter H. Gilmore (current High Priest and owner of The Church of Satan) saying Baphomet and the symbol comes goes all the way back to Egyptian times.
>>15777737
HEATHENS BTFO
>>15777742
Even in that, he's wrong, as it predates Egypt and goes back into the Chaldeans.
what kind of /x/ powers do you get for dancing on baby skulls?
>>15777737
Again mixing theology with historical fact.
>>15777754
By what rubric do you separate historical fact from historical fact?
Anything you don't like isn't an historical fact?
>>15777748
He talks about that a bit as well as other cultures. One second. Uploading clip.
>>15777613
This is the logical trend common amongst Protestants (at least those who bother with logic at all).
Catholicism bases its faith in the Bible on Ecumenical Councils (the First Ecumenical Council is in the Acts of the Apostles), specifically the Council of Trent (which was called in reaction to the Reformation). The Council of Trent was the first group of people to canonize scripture since hundreds of years before Christ.
Not saying this is a reason to believe any claims about the Bible (I'm a lapsed Catholic who hasn't practiced in a long time and don't care to anymore), just trying to put the facts out there.
>>15777758
>By what rubric do you separate historical fact from historical fact?
You're mixing religious beliefs with documented facts.
You don't live in reality.
>>15777762
You're giving aid and comfort to a person who states that Jesus did not rise from the dead.
Even for a catholic, even for a lapsed catholic, I find your advocacy of that lie appalling.
>>15777763
>implying
>>15777763
You're denying past events because you don't like them.
Is that "reality" to you?
>>15777742
>>15777760
Here it is
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1s5Rof2ZOtr
>>15777768
What past events? Your entire religion is not based in fact whatsoever. I ignore them because none of them are historically documented ("God smiting blah blah and Satan blah blah").
>>15777765
Because he didn't.
>>15777776
The events recorded in the bible.
>>15777776
The Creation, the Flood, the Exodus, the Resurrection; all denied, by you, in denying the bible as an historical document.
>>15777781
Butthurt incoming.
>>15777781
None of the supernatural events are historical fact.
>>15777784
>The Creation, the Flood, the Exodus, the Resurrection; all denied, by you, in denying the bible as an historical document.
Are you claiming all those are historically documented and are proven to have happened or the Bible (book) itself is a historical document?
>>15777791
>None of the supernatural events are historical fact.
[citation needed]
>>15777795
Are you trolling at this point?
>>15777791
Of course.
The bible does not contain all of the truth, to my knowledge, but everything in the bible is true.
>>15777168
The fuck am I watching OP?
>>15777800
Do you think Denial is a good way to live life? That you can just Deny things, and they go away?
>>15777800
You seem so sure that they didn't happen and I would like you to provide evidence to support your assertion.
>>15777802
>>15777807
You're literally saying supernatural events like Adam & Eve and the flood are historical facts and were proven to have happened.
I rest my case. This is either trolling or you people really are schizophrenic.
>>15777809
>provide evidence for something that didn't happen
Trolling/10.
>>15777811
The Holy Scriptures > some random anon
>>15777811
You're literally stating that no supernatural events have ever happened.
on /x/
>>15777813
Logic and reason > fairytales
>>15777816
So?
>>15777836
Might I suggest that your cognitive dissonance is becoming deafening?
I hope the Christian nutjob is a troll, because if not, he's bringing great shame to Khristos/Mashiah. This guy is a one note wonder and he'll react the same every time. Time to report and ignore. Stop feeding the troll/delusional nut.
This is an interesting concept
http://pastebin.com/dwjm1JbH
So the whole idea is that you can create multiple personalities in young children by severely abusing them. dissociative identity disorder, they create a persona that experiences that so their main psyche doesn't have to.
With more torture they can create even more
personalities and program them using hypnosis and such to add triggers to various stimuli.
I cant explain it well. Most of you are probably familiar with project monarch. The stories almost always involve satanic ritual abuse as a way to traumatize the children.
>>15777879
Why don't you let Jesus worry about me dude. He and I are tight.
>>15777891
Yeshuah and I are alright in the same way. I just happen to hold to an ideology and philosophy that gets called Satanic by the ignorant masses. I'm a hybrid of Thelemite and traditionalist Catholic. I've also studied other forms of Christendom, which is wide and varied. Authentic Christianity has at it's heart a Eucharistic ritual, baptism, chrismatization, and in many cases burial rites as well. The 4 marks of a church also apply. I believe in confession, the community of the saints, and many other beliefs of the Orthodox and Catholic Churches. I reject for the most part the fudamentalist ideologies which I feel are detrimental to human beings. That's where me and your average fundie tend to part ways.
>>15777168
Bunch of bunk.
Christians are responsible for the largest child sex abuse cover-up in the history of mankind, and yet everyone is talking about Satanic ritual abuse? lol k.
OP is a shill.
>>15777906
Yeah. Us to heaven, and you elsewhere.
It's not about what you know.
It's about Who lives inside of you.
>>15777918
it is all about it going on in churches and schools.
>>15777936
Has nothing to do with Satanism.
When Satanists actual do abuse kids, they're arrested and outcast from the Satanic community (as in the case of Jimmy Savile). In fact, an FBI report has debunked the notion of large-scale, secret Satanic cults abusing kids, and you can find that info and more below.
>http://skepdic.com/satanrit.html
Christians cover shit up.
Hence "largest child sex abuse cover-up in the history of mankind."
That has nothing to do with Satanism or the "Satanic." But Christians cant seem to point their finger at themselves and say "Christian sexual abuse" ..it has to be other people doing the abuse (Satanists).
Fix your own religion by first admitting to how shitty it is.
>>15777918
Catholics.
Not christians.
By Grabthar's Hammer, I will teach you people the difference.
>>15777951
The Whore of Babylon, living in Babylon, the City of Whores and Orphans, will never change her ways.
>>15777952
>Catholics
>Not christians
Is this 1998? That bait was used in old AOL chat rooms. God damn...
>>15777931
Dude, I believe nearly the same as you. If I take a contrary position, it's because I want to try to see what kind of person you are. I was raised to be a brainwashed follower, but I got some kind of personal faith that really goes beyond that. Read some books on the classical Church and you'll see that the truth is in the Old Catholic and Orthodox churches. Things which elevate the mind to goodness, like the hymns, are part of how you defeat the evil. The greatest weapon against evil is the Body and Blood. To both eat and drink them is a profound act, regarded as nothing by many fundamentalists. They reject life, which is a huge pity.
>>15777955
Please see
>>15777956
>>15777168
This shit isnt paranormal.
If I created a "Christian sexual abuse hate thread!" i'd be b&.
Fuck off to /b/ is you're going to failtroll.
>>15777956
It's been true for over 1700 years.
You act like 1988 was a long time ago.
>>15777959
You're a human being.
I am a new creation in Christ Jesus.
That you cannot tell the one from the other is a sign of blindness, not of enlightenment.
>>15777966
Feel free to support your argument with verified facts or at least strong theology, or just go back to the trap thread and fap into your sock-girlfriend, beta.
Ill be waiting.
>>15777968
Christianity, the belief that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, started when Jesus rose from the dead. The Church He started officially started 50 days later, on the Day of Pentecost.
To be a christian, one must confess out loud that Jesus is the LORD, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead.
The catholic church started almost 300 years later, as a reaction to the Roman empire's inability to stamp out christianity. It leader at the time, a sun worshiper named Constantine, decriminalized christianity and eventually lauded it as superior to the other pagan Roman religions.
To be a catholic, one must be a member in good standing of the Roman Catholic Church. And of course, by its tenets, only members of the Roman Catholic Church go to heaven.
The difference between a born again christian and a catholic are literally night and day, heaven and hell differences.
A christian't faith is in Jesus Christ for salvation.
A catholic's faith is in the Roman catholic church to save them.
>>15777891
>Why don't you let Jesus worry about me dude
This would be fine if you would fucking keep it to yourself.
>>15777977
This is misinformed and mixed with some truth to make it look good.
>>15777967
A person is born again when they receive baptism and anointing with oil. The Holy Spirit comes down and resides in the person. You'd be shocked to hear this is also the Catholic and Apostolic belief as well. I find it hard to understand why you think I'm not saved. What makes you so special?
>>15777951
I'll also add that The Church of Satan and Gilmore himself have personally reported crimes or would be criminals to the FBI.
>>15777985
Jesus: Tell everyone, all around the world, preach the gospel to the poor.
Me: Okey doke.
You: Keep it to yourself.
Can you guess who your spiritual father is, or should I let it slip?
>>15777977
>To be a christian, one must confess out loud that Jesus is the LORD, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead.
Catholics do this.
>A catholic's faith is in the Roman catholic church to save them.
You're highly uneducated in Catholicism.
"The Catholic Church teaches that salvation comes through Jesus alone (Acts 4:12)"
SOURCE: http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-is-the-catholic-understanding-of-the-biblical-plan-of-salvation
>Only members of the Roman Catholic Church go to heaven.
Pope Francis has recently stated that all people who do good, including atheists, can go to Heaven.
SOURCE: http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=51077
You are both highly uneducated in basic Catholic beliefs, but you're also pompous enough to dislike an entire group of people simply because of your own ignorance.
How mad?
Back to the trap thread.
>>15777987
You, of course, have absolutely what part of it is not true, and cannot, as you cannot discern truth. It's just not in you.
And no, you cannot coerce God with water and oil, and to think so is profoundly absurd.
Tell me. Of what use is being smart in a lake of fire?
>>15777952
>>15777528
>>15777531
That's Khnum and his potter wheel creating a person.
>>15777990
The great commission was for the APOSTLES. The average believer is in a position to the people in the Early Church who believed because of one of the Apostles - called to live the life and be in the body. To participate, but not to go out and bring everyone into the fold. The Apostles work is done. There is a huge array of churches, many with the Apostolic founding. Just do some reading on the Saint Thomas Christians in India and the Ethiopian Tewahedo Church. Get some knowledge.
>>15777990
>leave me alone! me and jesus are tight!
>Ok then leave me alone
>NO I HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT JESUS OR UR EVIL
You people are children.
>>15777992
Ah, finally, a professional liar.
“Jesus established here on earth only one Church and instituted it as a visible and spiritual community that from its beginning and throughout the centuries has always existed and will always exist, and in which alone are found all the elements that Christ himself instituted. […] This Church, constituted and organised in this world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the successor of Peter and the Bishops in communion with him.”
Your pope was also wrong in saying that atheists go to heaven.
Because, you know, he's a sinner in need of a savior like everyone else.
>>15777996
No true Scotsman deals with behavior.
Christianity is about transformation.
No true christian has not been transformed by the Holy Spirit, as only transformation by the Holy Spirit makes one a christian.
In other words, not everyone who says they are a christian, is a christian.
>>15778002
Nope.
All christians are witnesses, and some choose to spread the gospel.
Apostolic succession is a tool of satan to blind people from their personal responsibility.
And the work of the church is not done, not yet.
>>15778006
I gave sources.
You're garbage and a failtroll.
4chan is the birth-place of internet shenanigans.
If you're going to come here and try to bait trolls,
you had better bring fresh bait.
"Catholic VS Christian guise LOL!"
Is old, stale garbage, just like your mom's vagoo.
Step your game up and quit shitposting.
>>15778008
>moving the goalposts
One fallacy after another. This is hilarious.
>>15778003
No one said "leave me alone". They said "keep it to yourself."
What man hides a lamp under a bushel? No, a city of lights on a hill can be seen from far, far away.
>>15778008
>In other words, not everyone who says they are a christian, is a christian
And not everyone who says they are a Satanist is a Satanist.
>>15778012
The quote is from YOUR sources. kek
It's catholic, pure and pure. We're the church of Peter, we're the only true and holy church, only we get into heaven because only we have the crackers and the juice.
And of course the pope was wrong to tell atheists they could follow their own consciences to heaven. Dead wrong.
>>15778015
>No one said "leave me alone".
>>15777891
>Why don't you let Jesus worry about me dude. He and I are tight.
I'm saddened to see adults behaving like this. Even on 4chan.
Thankfully there aren't many like you anymore in the 1st world.
>>15778011
>>15778015
I bear you no ill will. I hope you're happy you've managed to get a few replies out of me. I should have left you to your own foolishness after the first one. I'm done.
>>15777168
Fortunately, the only form of child abuse going on there is what their supposed 'guardians' are teaching them. Making them lie and repeat obscene and graphic things at such a young age is disgusting.
>>15778023
well if we had that attitude toward every allegation then a lot of crimes would go unpunished. i think these videos warrant an investigation.
>>15778013
Showing you that your first claimed fallacy is misplaced is not moving the goalposts.
The only real evidence and proof I've seen of any kind of "ritual abuse" has been from Christians and the Christian church.
I mean just a few weeks ago yet another priest was caught fooling around with an underage girl.
>>15778008
>>15778006
>>15777992
and all the other posts making this a "christian" issue.
this is not common sense. obviously if this molesting is going on it is not "christian" in any traditional sense of the word. it is people doing their own covert and obscene rituals, whatever they may be based off of, and are using public resources to do that behind a front of christian churches. obviously this isn't supposed to be a pissing match between different world views. it is a matter of covert crime being committed. if it were "christian" we wouldn't be astounded by the allegations.
this isn't a matter about bickering about religion.
>>15778016
True but not useful.
>>15778020
Careful what you wish for. The sudden disappearance of the best people in the world will be traumatic.
>>15778021
It's important to tell you that you are not saved. I've done my bit. The rest is on you.
You don't get saved by what's in your head.
You get saved by Who is inside you.
>>15778027
I've watched all of the videos this guy uploaded. Too much of it was bullshit. Too much of it felt staged and forced. There is no chance on Earth these kids are really 'survivors' of Satanic child abuse.
>>15778032
>Showing you that your first claimed fallacy is misplaced
Except it's not.
>is not moving the goalposts.
Yes it is.
>>15778038
Tell the catholic church that, as they have adamantly refused to inform local authorities of all of the sex crimes their "eunuch" priests commit, dealing with the matter as purely internal instead.
As christians, we're pretty quick to throw abominations like that to the cops.
>>15778039
>the best people in the world
How very narcissistic of you to make such an astute claim.
On the contrary some of the worst (and dumbest) people I've met were Christians.
So no. We will (and are) much better without you vile hypocrites.
>>15778043
Except it was.
No it is not.
Look ma! I can make baseless assertions too! And on teh interwebz!
>>15778043
Putting sugar on your porridge is a behavior.
Being a butterfly, and not a caterpillar, is a transformation. You would not say "No true butterfly is a caterpillar", would you?
>>15778048
The best people in the world will be raptured, because the best people in the world are tabernacles of the Holy Spirit.
We go, He goes.
And then it's hell on earth. Literally. The One Who Restrains, will no longer do so.
>>15778044
well obviously no one knows about that. and if you knew anything about real satanism you would know that the kids are talking about satanic rituals.
but of course that doesn't mean much. the fact is crimes are being committed using seemingly innocuous fronts to engage in murder and rape.
>>15778039
I don't know what to make of Jesus being "inside me" and all. I know I said the last post I made would be my last to you, but I had to respond. You're just too infuriatingly self righteous that you have to be a troll or seriously delusional. I'd add sick and perverted, but I'm a real pervert. I'm many things, whatever is needed for me to be. All things to all men. I wear a lot of hats you see. You are a boring, one note, silly throwback to a silly ideology that isn't even old. Wicca is older than your silly shit.
If you enjoy bacon and shrimp cocktails then you're going to hell. If you fap to this pic...well you're normal and heterosexual. You might think you're going to hell, but that's because you're crazy.
>>15778051
No true scotsman comes from you claiming anyone who does something bad or doesn't fit your view isn't a Christian.
You moved the goalposts by saying its not about [x] but about [y].
>>15778054
Theological faith and religious beliefs do not relate to this. We're talking about logical fallacies. Not whether one beliefs in magical fairytales.
>>15778058
>The best people in the world will be raptured,
People like you need to be in a padded cell.
>>15778060
Which only makes sense. If you put huge signs outside your dungeon house inviting children to come in and be tortured and raped, you'd probably have a rather fatal accident sooner rather than later.
>>15778023
How do you know they are lying?
>>15778064
>You're just too infuriatingly self righteous
Most Christians are. It has the amazing ability to make someone both narcissistic and have a slave like mentality.
Where the person believes they are superior to everyone but then acts like a kicked dog before an imaginary friend.
>>15778040
>There is no chance on Earth these kids are really 'survivors' of Satanic child abuse.
>Too much of it felt
So you base your opinions off of your feelings? Are you female?
>>15778064
I'm glad the real you came out. Now maybe we can get some work done.
If you stood before a holy God, and confessed just this post, do you know for certain that He would judge you guilty, and cast your soul into hell?
Does being cast into hell sound like something you'd like to avoid?
Well, then, it's your lucky day, as God saves sinners like yourself, and like me, from the consequences of our sins.
Would you like to know how he does that?
To: Christians
From: A LaVeyan Satanist
A declaration
http://vocaroo.com/i/s18X9T3YPd8n
>>15778072
2spooky4me
>>15778065
You're misstating my position, again, and as usual.
I said that every christian has the Holy Spirit of God living in them; that every single christian has been born again in the Spirit. And transformed into a new creation in Christ Jesus.
That becoming a christian is not modeling different behavior, or trying to do good, or trying to avoid evil, but consenting to be transformed into what you were intended to be all along; a Spirit filled new creation in Christ Jesus.
So if a person says they are a christian, but do not have the Holy Spirit inside of them, they can claim to be a christian all day long and it will avail them nothing. They can pull out all the good works they want. They can donate billions to feed the poor. They can cast demons out in the name of Jesus, and heal the sick.
But if they don't have the Holy Spirit, they remain a spiritually dead human being, just as they were born. And there is no place in heaven for the spiritually dead.
>>15778069
Because we are not slaves. We are free.
We are adopted into the Family of God, and made joint heirs with Christ Jesus.
Such a thing is more remarkable than anything else you pursue.
>>15778071
God knows me since I've told him I'm a sinner. I've never pretended to be pure and clean, since I know I'm anything but.
>>15778075
>>15778080
Amen.
>>15778075
tl;dr religious indoctrinated drone ramblings.
>>15778080
>We are free.
To do as you are told.
>>15778072
pffft
"LaVeyan"
pathetic.
not even real satanist.
>>15778082
Okay, and do you, or do you not, wish to suffer eternal torment?
>>15778085
It's not too late for you anon.
>>15778087
The only kind of Satanist.
>pathetic.
>not even real satanist.
Translation: "I'm scared shitless that people might leave my religion for theirs".
>>15778082
I'm hoping the Christian nut will go away after he has a good wank. He might be some kind of repressed homosexual, but whatever. Come on Christfag. Just stop being a stupid fuck or quit trolling.
>>15778085
Free. I can't even describe it to you. Free from anything. Free from satan. Free from drugs. Free from booze. Free from fear. Free from worry. Free from the Law. Free from rules. Free.
Bought at a price, and set free; welcomed into the family, and made an heir. Established in heaven, and provided a mansion.
Free.
>>15778092
What religion?
LaVey is just bullshit. it isn't real satanism.
I'm not christian.
>>15778096
Is that not you?
>>15778088
Not going to hell. I know I have the hope of heaven, or the hope that at the very least it's not full of people like you. God is just.
>>15778074
>>15778084
>>15778089
I love it when Christians try to sneak their bullshit in popular fads so it looks "hip and cool".
They tried it with rock.
They tried it with rap.
They tried it with anime and superheroes.
They tried it with comics.
And every time they were laughed at before disappearing to try something else.
Failure after failure after failure.
>>15778096
Lewd.
To all new lurkers, ignore the shills and arguing and please continue to bump this thread with links, documents and other useful information.
>>15778100
If God is just, and you confessed to what you just confessed to, would He not be just in casting your soul into hell?
>>15778097
That's called "Stockholm Syndrome" brah.
>>15778098
>LaVey is just bullshit. it isn't real satanism
How would you know?
>I'm not christian.
Never said you were. Why so defensive?
>>15778104
You know church girls are always the biggest sluts.
One time a girl sucked me off in the bathroom of one. Right in front of a portrait of Jesus.
Shit was so cash.
>>15778106
>anyone who points out I'm wrong is a shill
>>15778107
Throwing me into hell, despite being otherwise a believer?
I live life to the fullest in my own way. I'm also trolling to some extent. You're not bright I take it.
>>15778112
>Says the literally, spiritually blind slave.
>>15778114
>in my own way
There's your problem; Christ is the way.
>>15778114
What fellowship do light and darkness share?
Were you not instantly identified as a child of satan, despite your seemingly "christian" "beliefs"?
If I can do such a thing, trivially, do you not think God can?
