You think you know what's happening,
You think you know what its all about.
But the magic went inside your head
And now at all must all come out.
For those who remember this September and October.
I must re-assure everyone, that what really is happening is not what really is happening.
Embrace the New World Order with open arms. Magic will show the way, if you believe in it or not.
Lose yourself to the words.
Sweet sobriety, never tasted so fine.
Unchanged from birth, the purity matches the point. Return to your birth, and accept the changes you must make.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPSkNFODVRE
".... sometimes all of our thoughts ... are misgiven ... "
They have dichotomised good and evil, utopia and dystopia.
We seek to return ourselves, the lot of men, to the common front of common sense and plain logic. Without prejudice of appearance or motivation by logo. Without fear of the unknown.
We have sought to birth new generations on the earth who do not know, and do not carry the struggles of their ancestors. As their ancestors have long since claimed victory over their struggle, and gracefully, we hope, rest in peace. Let history remind us that they do.
We wish to tear people from their security blankets of ideologies and scholastic tendencies - the tendency to cluster in numbers for safety. To liberate them into a beauty technological future of wonder. To free them from the grips of dogma, and the scars such dogmatization carry on people everywhere. To free them from this before they become threats to themselves. To liberate themselves from these ideas so they can truly be themselves and represent themselves.
This is our New World Order. Face value, all it is. This is it, and magic will show the way.
Huh, I guess something like this would get a better reaction.
Too bad. You try to tear people away from their own savagery and they don't even want your help. I guess it just "feels better" to live on an impulse. This disgust I feel for people never seems to ever go away.
I try to make it go away by posting things like this, to raise peoples' levels of self-awareness. Fuck it, they can all die for all I care. Enjoy your apocalyptic squalor.
Too bad smartphones don't have nutritional value.
They have lost me.
>For those who remember this September and October.
did you get possessed on halloween too?
i got bitten by kenny.
i should have picked a better costume.
but it definitely made me appreciate my life more and see through the transience of life understanding that i could die at any moment.
>>16981881
Because you're the only person to actually give a reaction to my personal bizarreness. I'll reply.
September and October, for me, was a tense zone - I basically broke my mind stopping what was going to happen from happening.
There was a lot of "end of the world" jive going around. I was trying to cool that off.
Now, we've stepped down from that and are currently going about a World War 3 vibe.
I'm just relaying the message that what is happening isn't THAT. It's the dawn of a new age, and new world order.
And magic shows us the way.
People are being gradually changed, from the old ways of thinking, so we can do this, this necessary transition, as peacefully as possible. Peaceful, as in, without chaos and disorder.
People like Alex Jones who tries get the drums beating about Great America or Fighting for God or some other far out nuttiness aren't helping. This is not the dawn of Satan, in fact, Satan as you think he exists probably doesn't. But that's the kind of opposition we get : primitive superstitions defended with utmost violence.
It's the same kind of idea in the middle east. People are drumming up for war and carnage when they should be heading in the other direction. Demagogues everywhere love this.
>>16981910
Jupiter woke up from his slumber. That's the news on Olympus. Hit me in a fucking morning rage. Jolted like hell, haha.
>>16981910
yeah, i just today internalized clow properly.
i can do it with most characters, halloween was the only time it really took itself over with me pushing it though.
i didnt believe the spirits actually came out on halloween until this year, and now i completely do.
i think i might be you're corollory, to encourage the beneficial chaos to avoid stagnation.
although i have a very ordered chaos.
albeit a very chaotic order.
circles and circles, the ball must roll.
we push it onward, up the hill, to catch it when it falls back to us.
i just want to be what i need to be in order to do the things that i want to do.
which include potentially starting world war three by causing a new government change for the better with force., writing a book that will describe a potential heaven that will be extremely satisfying for the largest group of people imaginable, and making a specific form of magic reasonable to a large enough percentage of the universe in order to make it feasibly powerful.
im focusing on the middle one but the others are also goals.
>>16981940
Yeah, I've been hoarding technical knowledge and technology for a good reason. God knows how something as "weak" as an 8086 or a 6805 processor could have value 10 years down the line.
I woke up on my own. I like your idea of writing a book, but you have to remember, who is going to read it? I think writing letters and posts like this has a far beneficial quality. You may just be digging holes for no reason writing books.
Again, I woke up on my own, back when I still had time and space to do it. I just hope that I can find a way to share this personal sacrifice I had with the people I love. To get them off their technology death march and learning about what's going on under the hoods of these devices. As an apprenticing hacker, I am concerned. People could get caught into nets and webs of identity and identity fraud simply because the baby-boomers want to live some kind of Jetson's future. Consumer electronics are very dangerous and scare the shit out of me.
I'm trying to find a way to grab people by their shoulders and say "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, OPEN YOUR EYES!!! YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION, YOUR LIFE OF EASINESS IS OVER!!!!". I want to share with people, I want to let them know they have choices.
Obviously, I don't want to raise alarms, but it's gone so far down the line now, I worry I may have to. The things they believe in are so patently false, it's astonishing. They believe they've made it, they've made it to their glorious future. But they haven't, it's an illusion. You can't go back to any "garden of eden" for a good reason, we've been "kicked out" forever. It's not within human nature to accept it.
Now, food and water will always be on hand, with shelter as well. It's just a matter of preserving one's self-awareness at this point - and obviously - not running with the pack. Which is something that's never been a problem for me.
>>16981972
okay, im your test i guess,
>>16981899
>>16981906
>>16981967
>>16981970
prove me wrong.
i didnt know why i posted those,but then i realised my actual test for you is my belief due to those previous things and my lack of a specific desire for heaven is that when the singularity happens, i want the AI to hook us all up into a mainframe so we can design for eachother personal heavens in order to see who's gonna have what sort of shit going on in the after life due to their heaven having to be actually better than what they experienced in real life, or else whats the point.
>not making your heaven better by enjoying the world as much as possible.
your experience is gratification
your next, if you succeeded, even more so.
>>16981988
I believe Crowley referred to that nothing as Nuit herself.
You have to start displacing yourself in time. For someone as me, who has lost most of his short-term memory capacity, I have realized that the last many millenia are an incredibly short period of time. Living is nature's compression algorithm for time.
Let that sink in.
Living allows nature to appreciate the subtle aspects of the universe that go too fast otherwise to see. We can slow our rate of perception and cognition to appreciate time in more textured detail.
And to me, heaven is being alone :)
The eerie-ness, the lack of challenge to my logic, absolution and control over my life. The bed, the desk, and just me. Me and my computer, my portal into the entire planet.
Working without interference. Having middle game sessions, whilst still being aware of the physical motions that acompany time. The rising of the sun, the phases of the moon, etc. The middle game, not the long game.
Doing the research that needs to be done so I can be free for myself. Crowley believes that all generations must fight for their own freedom, and not rest on the battles of their ancestors for freedom. As their freedom is not our freedom.
I like that concept, it makes sense.
>>16982008
I apologize if my appearance and demeanor are radically modern and present. I don't hold much stock in tradition, or even traditional rhetorical gestures.
My tradition is jeans, t-shirts and a hi-speed cable modem. It's as modern as it gets.
>>16982024
>>16982024
The parents, the masters, the guardians, can never have their ways.
With every passing second they become more and more obsolete. And the more obsolete the old becomes the more tyrannical and oppressive it becomes on the young and attempting. They have sabotaged the future in the name of tradition!!!! Simply because their skills have become obsolete.
Such a callous assassination cannot be let go unnoticed.
I was born typing. I was born in a math problem. I was born in a video game.
The futurists have made their mark. We had the world, we had it the moment it began inventing, the moment they made rails and roads. This is no light gamble. And now, magic has gone to the futurists, and the futurists take magic with them into their world, and leave the rest to bum in their places - as they deserve.
>>16982008
see, thats exactly what i cant stand.
except for that understanding of time, thats exactly how i see time.
all of eternity happens in a single moment, and time is our most wonderous illusion.
but to me, heaven is having friends.
its adventuring with them, also.
i want to train dragons, to train larger dragons, that i need to ride on in a silly russian egg type setup.
because i want that.
its that simple.
eerie-ness bothers me, i want to strike at it.
i like my logic being challenged, because otherwise how can you win? i want control, and i earn it with the way i live my life.
working with interference, having an opposing will to challenge you, and force you to put your beliefs or abilities to the test.
or having them walk beside you, giving you help if they can, and sometimes being helped by you.
having game sessions.
the long game.
the fun game.
doing the research that needs to be done so that i can do what i want to do.
freedom is freedom, i have done ages and ages and ages of research into various ages of research and its all exactly the same thing, praise the lord.
i like this concept, i can understand it.
>>16982041
There is no resource that can not be kept from our industrious hands.
http://hermetic.com/crowley/the-vision-and-the-voice/
>>16982051
I don't think you're doing the math. The animal is still within you. That instinct to be in the pact, to have safety in numbers.
It's hell managing the progress of my own education. With every addition of another mind, the difficulty grows EXPONENTIALLY. I haven't worked out a logical proof to explain that truth, but I do insist it is TRUE. It's mathematically sound that personal reserve, the time I HAVE TO steal for myself, is the only thing that has brought me personal profit. I have never profited once from society, so fuck you and your socialism. Not one idea I have borrowed from society has tested sound by rational logic.
We work, through industry and police, to beat the animal out of men. To raise them in void of religion. Not to destroy religion, but to keep the discovery of spirituality purely a personal journey, one they do forever themselves by choice. With all the proper rewards that brings.
I, a man void of religion, am free. I see there are options, in the way I can see things and in the way I do things. I can bogart personalities for fun and profit. I seek to become a dancing star per Nietzsche.
This is the world that could be. Sobre. Free. Respectful.
Instead we run through the streets marking each other and ourselves as truly madmen.
Good night, sir.
>>16982077
If you're planning on killing me, do an honest cost-benefit analysis first, please.
They could end me, but not the futurism you depend on.
>Embrace the New World Order with open arms
>We wish to tear people from their security blankets of ideologies and scholastic tendencies - the tendency to cluster in numbers for safety. To liberate them into a beauty technological future of wonder. To free them from the grips of dogma, and the scars such dogmatization carry on people everywhere.
>People are being gradually changed, from the old ways of thinking, so we can do this, this necessary transition, as peacefully as possible.
>I, a man void of religion, am free.
>This is the world that could be. Sobre. Free. Respectful.
Gee whiz, Billy, that's some mighty nice true blue Masnory and Fabianism you got there, that's for sure.
>>16982077
>I don't think you're doing the math. The animal is still within you. That instinct to be in the pact, to have safety in numbers.
>or having them walk beside you, giving you help if they can, and sometimes being helped by you.
you dont need to manage the progress of your education.
education is worthless without an intent.
>With every addition of another mind, the difficulty grows EXPONENTIALLY. I haven't worked out a logical proof to explain that truth, but I do insist it is TRUE. It's mathematically sound that personal reserve, the time I HAVE TO steal for myself, is the only thing that has brought me personal profit. I have never profited once from society, so fuck you and your socialism. Not one idea I have borrowed from society has tested sound by rational logic.
the events that occur between you and others are experiences, they can be both beneficial and weakening, if you allow them to be either. if you haven't profited from anyone, you haven't been selling anything.
the more and more and more i look, the more and more and more i find. there are answers everywhere, you can find the information you need in any expression of will in the universe through metaphor.
i choose anime, because it means the most to me.
and because i find these truths of myself in the outside world, i am free to allow my animal to be beaten into me, to be raised in religion and learn that which i would without, to make spirituality a group effort, that is my goal. with all the rewards we can share.
there are options.
if you mean the ability to internalize your conciousness as belonging to another character for your own personal goals then yeah i can do that too, i seek to because everything i can through anyone i need to.
this is the world that is. full, drunk, slightly dickish.
we are all madmen, it is appreciating the insanity(read:personal internal logic, which are all inherently flawed and therefor insanity) of others which i enjoy.
g'night, wish we could continue.
>>16982120
>the events that occur between you and others are **encounters**, they can be both beneficial and weakening, if you allow them to be either. if you haven't profited from anyone, you haven't been selling anything.
meant to also say
>the time between encounters is what makes you your self.
when you are with other people you kinda get swept up and don't really think except in response, which is pretty much going to be a single definite thing depending on your previous experiences and knowledge, and therefor completely predictable by anyone who understands you well enough.
>>16982115
I appreciate the observation.
As for your image, the point is to liberate people from being human capital. We're all the same. These things already are true. We have no homelands, no identities. "Capitalism" did away with these things centuries ago. We're a planet of melting pots, nomads and immigrants.
These ideas keep people chained, ideologically.
We were open to the idea of a communist earth, but we concluded that it could never happen for aeons, people aren't built for total co-operation. And we accept that.
It's forward the foundation now, minimizing the loss during the decline of the old empires of thinking. Machines can liberate us from the most drudged work now. We can all become designers, pilots, tradesmen, repairmen, inventors, magicians, sorcerors, knights. If we can part with the past, we can have a future.
We're trying to find a future for earth that isn't dystopian or apocalyptic. We, the policemen of time, policemen of the future. A policeman such is I.
Run with us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C01n4U_EXek
>>16981750
What is this magic you are talking about OP? What is its relation with this "New World Order"?
>>16983396
Just magic in general. Seeing it, feeling it. The obvious things that are unbelievable but won't go away.
The acceptance that the reality you percieve is not the reality that has consequences in your life.
Crowley doesn't bluff. His stuff works once you find a meaningful and WILLFUL way of applying it. Which is the key, because if your heart and mind can't be unified on the will's intent, there is no meaningful result.
Taoists call this internal alchemy, and is the truest route to learning magic there is. I call it the revolution within.
In our future, such endeavors into magic happen without resistance. Are routine and accepted by the public, as they are aware of the common denominator of our new society : magic. The wizard needs no excuse to practice.
>>16982115
Shit the picture is so damn true.
>>16983409
Crowley was an insane drug addict who wandered around the world smoking crack.
Anyone can convince themselves anything given the right conditions. We call this "confirmation bias".
Good will prevail in the end.
These magic casters edgey teens will hear exactly what they are doing and it will be brought into truthful light.
So close to the fire you make them go into, but this is the closest you can get into the cloud
>>16983867
Srila Prabhupada or Aliester Crowley
This board will choose Crowley even though he appearantly killed someone in his spell work once, and probably had lots of lustful sex magick spells, which is what most occultist on here learn, aside from summoning ghosts and learning different mythologies to "increase" their ability to ignore God as the simplest and superior energy.
God, even outside of Yhwh and Abrahamic titles, because Jesus APPARENTLY was not on the same page as the Jews.
Hare Krishna
>>16981910
faggot
>>16983869
Define "good".
See, this is the type of thinking we oppose. Good and evil not only do not exist, but can not be objectively defined.
I hear a lot of spooks and law enforcement use the words "good" and "bad". The words themselves are meaningless and are simply ammunition for personal rage and power lust.
>>16984024
So dumb
Good is righteous
Bad makes other people feel negative at the expense of your own gain
Doing what should be done with a pure mind, good
Do something out of ignorant, "there is no good and bad" is just plain stupidity
>>16984045
What is righteousness, then?
It's a poisonous thread of thought, next thing we know we're burning people at the stake for being heretics because they claim the universe doesn't revolve around earth, or that Jerusalem is not the earth's center of gravity.
It would be "bad" and "unrighteous" to say so.
And some people think we''re living at one of the worst points in history.
No, there is no good and bad, there is only darkness and illumination. Ignorance and knowledge. If you choose to live like a peasant, ignorant and laborious, a slave indentured for life - because that's "god's way", fine. But don't expect to get a following.
>>16984064
What you are saying is adharma.
You have no faith or morality until you see that there is good and bad.
Good is giving someone five dollars if they need it, bad is spitting in their face for asking.
Good is doing something that needs to be done, bad is choosing to spite the aspect that is good.
>>16984078
>Good is giving someone five dollars if they need it, bad is spitting in their face for asking.
Knowledge is asking what he needs five dollars for, or if he really needs five dollars at all. Ignorance is just living without questions, a void, a chasmatic damming of the waters of knowledge until the dam finally breaks in catastrophe: disease, war, pestilence, insanity.
>Good is doing something that needs to be done, bad is choosing to spite the aspect that is good.
Knowledge is to know that nothing ever needs to get done. Emergency is an illusion of fear, a subject of ignorance. The laws of nature direct the elements to the places they always need to be. The sun does its duty without the aid of man, morning comes even if I sleep right through it.
I achieved Dhyana at the age of 11, I didn't even know what it was until a few months ago.
>>16984093
If you achieved dhyana then realize your speculation doesnt mean anything...
Too bad there is no good or bad, that is bad. Anyone wise enough to use their brain would know what good and bad are, to each their own set of chores of reality, svadharma, and do what needs to be done, self dharma, realize
I just sit and think to myself sometimes, "how do people have so much time on their hands to be this gay?" Then I remember im on 4chan
>>16983409
crowley was a mason you have no idea what youa re talking about you roleplayer and if you really think the freemasons will create a NWO before anyone else you are stupid, sorry if thats harsh. I do like your whimsical poetic writing however
>>16981750
i say lest keep a low profile
the guys how have been runing the show they havent been the nicest to us the population.
yes the population need a sake up to awaken but , you can awake a dead body (as far i know)
just lay donw and they already know we are here if they need help for someting good we can help ,
meme magic is powerful in the chans , but i dont see why embrace them, we need to keep the balance and is better if we move as the tings roll
>>16984108
Dhyana as the personal balance within the body.
Every movement is satisfied by its own actions. Every expense is just purely justified by its own return.
>If you achieved dhyana then realize your speculation doesnt mean anything...
Define "meaning", I always crash the best of philosophers on that point. Meaning is a trait of words themselves, not physical objects. It's a null point to assign a meaning to a physical or metaphysical thing, as such a declaration would always be non-sensical.
>>16984121
>>16984123
I sometime wonder who pays people to actually post these things. Or if people just do it just because.
>>16984143
There is no one "running the show", it's just a big network of bluffs and collusion schemes. All they want is money and stability - to make more money. Even your saint-like Alex Jones is in on the scheme, he's raking in the coin just like everyone else.
Even if, their organized efforts toward their fellow man is at worst indifference.
is that a pic of mccrowley crowling?
>>16984169
if there is nobody runing the show that leave us NOT to run it , but to balance,
i say meme magic in the chans is the tool
lest keep the networt , a networking scheme is way better than the tradicional piramid scheme they have benn runing , all the groups have been figting over powe , and they have try to top the others
i say lest go for total freedom of the nets lest keep the balance , if the jews are wining lest suport pol
if pol is wining lest suport the eris liberation front
and on an on , as long the internet is free we can rely on people looking to awaken , even if is by the sheer force of happenings, we cant not force the pills , awakeing is a very personal path , just lest make sure that the pills are avalable to anybody who is looking for them and let history run his course
>>16984235
Right.
You read and sound like a rambling homeless person. Come back when you're sober, thank you.
is there a particular type of magic that is going to save us or just magic in general?
I'm new to this and I really don't want to come across as rude but I will just plead ignorance for the time being.
I've been reading about chaos magic for the last month or so and have done "energy magic" (i don't even know if that's the correct term) since i was younger without really knowing what it was.
I have a bunch of books on alchemy, masonry, egyptian, enochian, gnostic studies and a butt ton more
Just wondering if there's a specific place to start as there is so much :P
I'm not entirely desperate to save myself, but it wouldn't do much harm right or perhaps I deserve to be wiped out as I don't know magic? :P
From what I was taught by school and parents, you wouldn't of thought the world to be so complex :P
sigh.
>>16984315
My ability is geniune. You know it's magic if what you're going through is clearly impossible - and you haven't done any drugs :)
The gate way is two fold, and I will explain both parts, self-awareness and meditation.
Self-awareness.
Time is long, and it is limitless is supply. You will die, eventually. The world is not about you, and that's not trying to put you down, it truly isn't.
Meditation.
I used to meditate through sport. Any sport that encourages the individual versus the team is usually pretty solid. You are encouraged to focus on your own failures, and not others. Sports keep the mind modern, remember and think about that. In any case, ideas come, ideas that have no framework in past thinking. Ideas that are genuinely your own.
After settling with some master of those precepts, begin experimenting. Fuck the books. The books aren't the magic, they're just ideas.
I'm currently working on impuring agate to create a quasi-electric portal to manipulate the spaces. Just finding the right time.
I just picked up a crystal at a flea market and figured that no one will raise an eye-brow (incognito is very important, interruption is disastrous - even the simplest question can through you off guard).
AS FOR CROWLEY, that is just that. Meditation. Meditation and getting off your ass and actually trying something. That's the key to the door that will awake you and make you aware of the chaos we brew through our every day automatic actions - and turning that chaos into personal and social profit.
>>16984383
Thanks dude, much appreciated
>>16984416
My pleasure.
>>16984045
this is a good.
but there is also the good of enjoyable sensation, the good of gratification, which is having also an appreciation of that sensation.
you speak of the good of justification, but there is also the good of rationalization.
denying that good is what sends men of innocent action into the abyss, because they do what is right, but merely do not know why.
and men like you abandon them.
I can crush your magic
>>16984774
and do you know how your magic is made?
>>16984730
I don't abandon the righteous nigga did you even read the post you responded too?
Good things, you obviously gotta know why dummy
And why does everyone keep calling me a guy
>>16984169
You also sound like an ass
>>16984730
I surely don't abandon them.
I just find it hard to imagine a life lived where someone truly believes they have no choices. I have not lived their lives, I do not know if they were forsaking the common sense of teachers or paying attention.
I have nothing but disgust for young who forsake the advice of elders. Disgust. They have no solutions for themselves but desperation, shaming others and poverty.
The advice of elders is gold. The advice of youth isn't worth the air spent to speak it. The rule of youth is pure tyranny.
>>16984837
Dude, I'm the OP, fuck off stop fucking around, srsly.
>>16984848
Who cares who the original poster is, you all are clearly speculating too much and giving out gimmick information on every topic you guys post about
>>16984846
>>16984846
>You also sound like an ass
See >>16984848
>The advice of elders is gold. The advice of youth isn't worth the air spent to speak it. The rule of youth is pure tyranny.
You can enjoy your dinner parties, facebook profiles, twitter accounts, internet activism, texting, whilst people like I pay attention to the world burning down around them.
The old world is burning down and no one is paying attention, people are buying tickets to board the Titanic while it is sinking.
It's just going to be nothing left but you. And the sooner you start making preparations for that reality the better. This is the age of the Aquarius. The shuttering wreckage of the old world wrested to make room for the new world order.
A lot of things are going to go. TV, the Internet (for a while) a lot of things. They will go because it will be a matter of survival.
This is me just guessing, and I wish people don't get scared, but rather started to make the right psychological preparations to accept the reality that is to come. And if we all do a little bit of work for ourselves, everyone will have a better chance to make it.
>>16984852
>gimmick information
prove it.
>>16984872
Why prove it when it is all over the place? You guys talk big, but you act small bit don't even see a thing.
>>16984867
Your speculation is too much words, you must learn how to simplify your point. Call me stupid, I don't care, because your opinion is not a fact
>>16984882
This is pure observation. People have no reprehensible caution for the future.
ITS HORRIFYING.
Everyone gets dressed up to go the party. They have the latest smartphones and the best hair. They have it all. They have zero preparations for what is to come.
ZERO.
When being left out socially becomes the greatest fear, the greatest fears are seen as abominations - easier to end ourselves than to fight, right?
I don't even have a fucking religion. I just know that things are going to go bad.
What preparations do people have? I want to know.
>>16984837
no, im saying you'd abandon the one that rationalizes rather than justifies his actions.
we all do, and its wrong.
this is the one evil humans need to stop doing to get rid of all evil.
all actions are right, every viewpoint is valid.
none is more righteous in their own eyes than any other.
>>16984848
we all make choices, even if we believed we were not the ones making them.
i have lived my life, believing that i have lived it over and over again to only now be free of that cycle.
whenever i follow a single way it eventually fails me, and i must find another.
this is a chaos i have grown to, it allows me insight for as far as i can see.
i relish in it. it inspires me. to see one way, and the other as well.
i may switch sides, but only if i see that side as correct.
picking sides is pointless if you dont look at both.
but i know that the rule of anyone as only as good as their intent to rule.
solomon himself was but a boy when the lord granted him his wisdom.
you must merely ask.
and pray you dont end up as one such as
>>16984867
who would deny himself the chance of salvation before the end has even come.
those who give up on the world will have the world give up on them.
we can fix what we have, AND have what will come.
what good is having a cake if you will not eat it.
>>16984911
Not all action is right
>>16984901
i prepare by having a religion, for starters.
also, 1000 punches a day, and 50 squats.
protein protein protein.
>>16984920
if every viewpoint is valid, then every action is right.
all cows are sacred to someone.
mostly indians, but still.
>>16984925
Not at all.
Killing children and sacrificing them is right, only to the wrong people.
>>16984911
>who would deny himself the chance of salvation before the end has even come.
>those who give up on the world will have the world give up on them.
>we can fix what we have, AND have what will come.
>what good is having a cake if you will not eat it.
Giving up on the world is indulgence.
You have given up faith in your fellow man,
you have given him no quarter for his competence.
And you charge him deeply and impossibly to prove it.
That is the deepest insult a man can ever be given :
Being called incompetent.
It will break him - it will break him if he ever saw himself a man.
It broke me.
>>16984925
Remember what the poor captured slave peeped
to the glorious Roman general :
"All Glory is Fleeting".
This is the world as we have made it,
the standards and flags of our ancestors whither and tear.
A lost band of vagabonds, dejects, madmen, called together for
a futile last stand.
Yes, there is hope in the world.
But not for us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0mq3F4Dn6I
Most of you are lost
>>16984952
Lost like a fox
>>16984952
Say to us, Jesus Christ, where is our way? Do you even know? If you don't know the way, what possible evidence do you have to say we are lost.
This is the world I live in. Burning sands.
My ship left before I could even have a chance. And every night I have a sweet dance with death, to wonder if tonight really is the night.
>>16984962
Except a fox trusts their instincts unlike querents on /div/
>>16984965
Choosing the negative will not embrace the positive.
You guys always ask for evidence that is bold in front of you
>>16984968
How would you know what a fox thinks about??
>>16984979
I am sure it isn't thinking;
>o i need a tarot reading for my small trust in myself
Or
>quick guise i need to cast a spell cause i cant do it myself i need demuns ima sorecer rawr
A fox is a simple animal, better trusting of the self than some people, appearantly
>>16984979
Maybe he's a skinwalker...
>>16984944
if you wer broken, you were meant to be broken.
if only so that you can fix yourself again.
that is what we must do, to remind ourselves we can.
otherwise, we grow complacent.
and as such, we will be incompetent.
if i am here to break, then i hope i can also be here to remind you that you can fix yourself.
the drive for personal improvement derives from the divinity of the self seeking to return to the perfection it once knew through the avenues available to it.
(also me):
the people of the world do not respect decent action. if they ever truly did, i can not say. the people respect efficient action and rational thought, and ambition has become the morality of the day. THIS is the world we have built for ourselves, with our will and our own two hand, and only with the same can we build it again into anything new.
there is hope in the world.
i can hear it in our stories, in our love, and in our music
it is for us, we have shared it with ourselves, but we must accept it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quBCjo2rUZg
a fox thinks mostly of butts.
butts and how i can fix things.
>>16984973
Honestly, it's the Thanatos in me. The urge to face death. I don't really care about women, I don't care because it's not pressing. Sex doesn't entertain me now, because I see that now is not a time to rejoice.
Maybe when I'm finally dead, when I'm in Valhalla or wherever, I could settle for a life like that. But not now. The facts are facts.
I have to turn my head and cringe everytime I see a hipster or some one dressed "modernly" with their own fucking personal twitterfeed or fuck whatever. My money isn't going to save me, my career isn't going to save me.
There was reality. Before anything else in the universe knew it existed. There was reality. I want my reality back, before there's no reality left to go back to.
>>16985026
you have to act the way you expect to enjoy heaven, because you should want to be good in heaven too.
but a kind of good you can enjoy.
>>16985026
Spirituality conflicts what we call reality, when they di co exist.
Some people lose their mind trying to be one with Spirit, but some don't give up and recieve a great reward.
This is a hard place to be, but life is meant for repentence not indulgence, but the world will tell us otherwise.
Money, sex, food, drugs, sense gratification. Give and take spiritual and material worldly things, yes this too, but ultimately those who complete the karmic debt will be free. What is freedom? It is more than the standard defintion of the word, and more than one can attempt to tell you
>>16985021
>there is hope in the world.
>i can hear it in our stories, in our love, and in our music
>it is for us, we have shared it with ourselves, but we must accept it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quBCjo2rUZg [Remove]
thanks for that.
I really don't know what other people are up to today. And I find it easier just screaming in the wilderness than actually having a face to face with someone about the reality im dealing with.
>>16985033
>>16985044
>implying the people who blindly follow the karmic path don't get stuck in the asura realm because just doing something you don't think/feel is right because you see some force or other mentality saying its good is completely rationalization, and not justification.
or is there actually no difference?
lets go with that one you guys.
that way it doesn't matter, because we can just all agree with both and stop arguing.
there's two kinds of people, we cant just say one is wrong, because we both just say the other is wrong and disallow them a decent amount of happiness they deserve by doing so, when in actuality we should be respecting the potential in the others way of thinking.
now either agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee or i will continue to prove everyone wrong about everything as my alt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgnIb5YW8J4
>>16985048
everyone does, until you do it.
and then you begin to recognise the benefit of friends.
watch hunter x hunter for an escape to the way things aught to be.
i will let you get your own meaning from it.
now then gentlemen, this discourse has allowed me to ratiojustify buying a pack of cigarettes to keep at work for my break even though i quit[haha], and also i want some hamburgers, so ill be back in like half an hour or so.
>>16985077
>>16984911
who do i thank for all this GET?
not even only this thread.
jesus?
karma?
the universe?
/x/?
the universe.
universe means one verse, one description.
i appreciate(enjoy with my brain) that, so im going to go with that one.
thanks universe.
i love you, man... woman?
universe.
i love you, universe.
>>16985077
Welp, I guess evolving into some kinda Otaku would be an upgrade from the paranoid wreck I am now .....
Really, the anonymity is the only thing keeping me here on 4chan.
>>16985077
>nobody can deny my rationalization for why justification as defined as having a reason others believe to be true is just rationalization because it doesnt inherintly mean you have an actual reason for it, or even agree with that, it means you do it and then say it was alright because others said it was
>rationalization is actually justification because it means you can come up with an actual reason for why something is good
the difference between rationalization and justification is nothing and everything, where you get it from, if thats what you want to say. the difference is whatever difference you apply to it.
i like to think that they are exactly the same, but my connection to the global unconcious keeps trying to give me a reason why this isnt so.
it cant, can you?
i know you think you might be able to, but when you cant, accept what i have said so that none of us have to fight anymore.
as always, i'm very eager to hear your opinion.
>i am the chaos that brings order
>and the order that brings chaos
>i am that i am, so that i may be what i will become.
>>16985103
thats the spirit.
but dont beat up yourself about the person you are of the person you have been.
focus on what you can become, and aim to achieve that goal.
if you ever wondered what satan is,
its whatever makes you upset when you read my logic.
god is the peace you feel when you recognize what i say as fact.
i wish i could find a bigger picture
>>16985401
look up 401 biblical meaning.
i cant post the link because spam.
>"its just for you" says the voice to the side.
if it was, i wouldn't have wanted to share the meaning of that number so badly.
Too bad magic can be used against the NWO idiot.
That's what they're truly afraid of. Fuck the NWO.
Hail Jesus Christ and his followers.
>>16985487
too bad magic is the nwo.
we get to stop pretending soon.
and use the understanding we have gained for what we truly desire.
thats what i'm truly excited for. god bless the NWO
Praise jesus and the whole lot
>>16985435
also this is me, i lost my trip i guess.
i was telling you guys to look it up for yourselves if you need justifirationalization.
>>16985516
So if I mess up an NWO person like Al Gore using psychic abilities then I am part of the NWO?
NWO and Jesus are diametrically opposed. Everyone wants to believe that psychic abilities/magic is reserved for evil.
No. Biggest lie ever. Government wants slaves not heroes.
>>16985543
yes.
>diametrically opposed.
in the public perception, but not in yours if you so choose.
and fuck what the government wants, we want heroes, dont we?
i INTEND to be one, if i can.
in every way i can.
being the good guy is as easy as trying.
>>16985583
Now I feel like this is one big consolidation attempt to get people to join with the NWO even though you would have to be a fool to think that Jesus would support it.
So many consolidation attempts by the NWO these days. What's wrong? Number dwindling? Can't do a dictatorship without people can you?
People are waking up to the NWO's lies.
Once people awaken their psychic abilities. YOU. ARE. FUCKED.
>>16984383
>even the simplest question can through you off guard
ah! yes! this is DEFINITELY the utterance of an adept. as the greats say, "you can tell i'm the most important person because i talk so much, also i am very powerful because i said so, but ALSO-also i have no capacity for focus at all, and even a stiff breeze will distract me from my 'trance'"
what the fuck is going on here
>>16985606
>actively opposing other peoples ideologies.
god bless whoever made this image.
>>16985726
>thinking the NWO does not actively oppose other peoples ideologies.
I'd rather be on the side of Jesus Christ than on the side of the worship of materialism.
>>16981750
Whoa, dude, stop hogging the blunt.
>>16985742
but collecting materials is the best way to have materials with which to give to people who cant collect for themselves.
>>16985753
Bahahaha when has redistribution of wealth over worked out in history???
No, it's just the same materialistic criminals stealing from everyone else. It's like the people that go to malls everyday on weekdays. That's who the money and material goes to. The gold chains no brains idiots.
>>16985797
>implying im talking about redistribution of wealth and not private benefactors donating their contributions to society.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/01/news/companies/giving-pledge-billionaires/
forcing people to do anything is bad.
forcing people to see your way of thinking as better is especially so.
allowing them the information and understanding you used to build your arguments and giving them the choice to agree or not is fine.
and thats literally all the nwo is going to ever do.
thats all jesus did.
but then people like you happened, who saw how right he was, but only used his righteousness as an excuse to impress their own morals on top of it without actually listening to his message, which was completely about not doing that.
im sorry about that last line seeming mean but its what happened.
>>16985880
>what the fuck is the difference
Let me know when all the "donating" begins. Hopefully that is the solution!!
Not giving people jobs or creating a more cohesive society. NO, that couldn't be it.
>>16985893
ok.
send a cell phone to every citizen of the united states over the age of 10, with a vote disguised as a terms of service agreement.
once over 50% of them say yes(because fuck its a ToS, why wouldnt they, its a free phone)
BOOM, there goes DC.
once thats done, we use the phones to send everyone a value of digital currency equal to about 200 usd currently, every week, as well as give every family a home (we have the capability to do this already, we have more homes than homeless.)
we also use the phones to organize labor forces to reorganize infrastructure during the switchover to the new economy, where everyone in the labor force gets twice as much during the time they are actively engaged in their assignments.
after that, the economy rebuilds itself using this better currency and mentality after rebuilding itself, with noneconomic systems taking over all necessity based productivity (food and resources)
food would be handled with a secondary currency which would refresh itself to an allotted amount weekly/daily, preventing fatsos from stuffing their faces too much and also hoarding and shit.
also scientists forced into a room given like 3-5 times as much to work on solar powered farm designs and AI, to let that take over as soon as possible, because it would be more efficient (dont you fucking start with me about that, AI will just be a living computer, it wont be evil unless you give it a reason to be, we just need to find out what it wants and trade it that for its work, and if it doesnt want anything, even better.)
tl;dr: perfect economic system allowing for us to escape into a post-scarcity society and focus on creating works of art instead of wasting time doing jobs that have no need other than the fact we need them to survive, because those jobs will be done by robots, or a subsidized labor force until that happens, after which the people with no skills get to live on their fat ass and post on 4chan like you are already doing
>>16985934
but instead of draining taxes through welfare checks, you get the same thing as everyone else, but less unless you get a job.
the "noneconomic" system still gets payed for resources by industry, funneling the fake money we pump into everyones account out, and back into nothingness, controlling inflation.
>>16985893
you wanted a more cohesive society.
ii already had one readily describable..
any more questions?
i am here to bring benefit.
>>16985934
Where does the money magically come from. I'm done discussing this with you. That post has multiple doses of stupidity in it. Of course an AI is going to be evil, it's going to provide solutions that it thinks is best which may be everything from sterilization to mass murder like the terminator.
If everyone gets 200 per week there will be inflation which will cause it to equal two dollars per week. You need to travel to Denmark and look how much Kroner it takes to buy a magazine or a muffin, that's inflation gone mad and surprise twist - it doesn't fucking work.
I'm done with you. Read a book once and awhile. Non-fiction. Start with "Why Nations Fail" by Acemoglu and Robinson.
>>16985975
where the fuck does the value of the dollar come from?
fucking nowhere, that is a known fact.
this system actively has a way of dealing with that, so we dont end up with inflation or in debt to china because of selling the credit of loans.
you have a serious air of ignorance to you.
>Of course an AI is going to be evil, it's going to provide solutions that it thinks is best which may be everything from sterilization to mass murder like the terminator.
this is silly and untrue, it will be nothing more than a conscious entity, but trapped inside a machine, it will want, as all conscious things do, to exist and feel as if it has been put to the maximum potential it can.
the money used to buy the resources just stops existing, nill, zilch, return to sender, it would rectify inflation as long as the industry was able to keep up with demand, which would be its own problem at that point if that happened.
read a book, fiction, its less depressing and full of better role models.
you can be perfect, but you wont know how unless you see people who are to base yourself on.
and even then only when you remember how to act.
>>16985975
money is an invention to make the economic distribution of goods and services is efficient and productive.
the lust of money is because money can buy almost anything. Only the truly rich are capable of seeking the things money can't buy.
>>16985975
>Where does the money magically come from.
What money?
Do you mean the paper fiat currency that is not representative of any holdings of any finite resources and hasn't been since 1971? The stuff that's created at will in regular intervals as part of the long term debt cycle?
Or do you mean the electric promise that moves through a rope in the ground from your employer's corporate office to the office that issued you a plastic rectangle?
Money doesn't exist. It's just a promise. You don't need magic to make a promise out of nothing. That's one of the few cases where that's true.
Resources exist, and there's more than enough of them for everyone; they just aren't distributed that way because not everyone has enough electric promises or skeeball tickets to be allowed to have them.
>>16988038
>not everyone has enough electric promises or skeeball tickets to be allowed to have them.
wut. does this I have to go to the arcade?
Is this some kind of illuminati scavenger hunt? If so, I'm in. It could be fun.
>>16988042
Yes, it's an illuminati scavenger hunt. How it works is, you go to a building and tell them your social security number and they give you a plastic rectangle. Then you go find a person who needs something done and you do the thing, and that person sends an electric promise to the first building, which takes some of your electric promises from you in exchange for the service of letting you use their rectangle. Once you've done enough things, you can take your electric promises and make an electric promise to the government to rent a square of land. If you don't have enough electric promises, you can go to the first building again and promise them half of your future promises in exchange for them promising the government enough promises for the square. But the government will still take some of your promises every year. Then you can do some more thing for promises and promise some promises to places for electricity and water and gas and telecommunications and transportation and food. You can usually go back to the first building that gave you the rectangle and promise more promises later and they'll promise people more promises now.
You win if you have any promises left over when you die.
Welcome to freedom.
>>16988098
Well, if you were smarter you'd know that I crashed the economy in 2008.
Why should I worry about the illuminati? I am the illuminati.
Welcome to the world of magic. hahahahahaha. Suck it.
Wake up and you will realize.
Remember when you guys were little kids with free love?
Then you became a sorcerer occultists satan worshipping witch that has nothing better to do than waste your time teaching "magic" to people who browse online tp make your self feel important
>>16988129
~<●>~
>>16988325
It makes no sense to me as to why you guys would try so hard to hide such a message. ( @Ω )
>>16988129
I'm just doing this shit because I'm bored.
Have you seen the videogames out there today? All shit, sequels with too many cutscenes.
When, oh when, will they release half-life 3 so I can stop summoning the forces of darkness ....
Nice try
All of you guys used to be sweet little kids
And now you cast inauspicious spells and talk about contacting demons and being sorcerers and it is very sad
>>16988486
>implying i didn't do that my entire life.
i've always been trying to instate a better world order or contact some sort of thing to allow me to do so.
in fact i probably do so less now.
