Art thread anyone?
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>>879280
>all those erasings
damn dude i could never get into art, by the 3rd erasing i would just crumple it up
>>879507
When you are practicing it doesn't matter. The biggest hurdle to get over is to stop pouring all your emotional energy into something to the point where you are getting frustrated when messing up.
>>879545
This right here.
Eventually you just have to learn to not care enough anymore. as long as the end result comes out perfect, or damn near it
>>879507
He's not so much messing up as he is changing ideas for what position/proportions the figure should be.
>>879599
That has nothing to do with the conversation subject.
>>879726
I hope you are joking.
>>879726
>If that's you
That is "Yusuke Murata" the guy that does the One Punch Man stuff.
>>879726
>doesnt realize who the artist is
>talking shit on one of the greatest, most well-known comic book/manga artists ever
Please, fucking walk into traffic before you ever try to talk about art or who should do what with it again.
>>879861
It's funny cuz apparently my construction when doing animu art doesn't look any worse. Maybe the genre is more pleb tier than I thought.
>>879873
Art is more about breaking through a personal mental barrier than it is actual drawing talent.
>>879886
That's a non-sequitur. Not at all related to anything I was saying.
>>879873
>doesn't read filename
>ignorance is pointed out
>W-well it's shit, I can do just as good!
>posts none of his own work
Zero credibility
>>879927
Oh wow you, totally missed the point then.
>>879980
Well, him being a manga artist, I'm sure he's miles ahead of me on creating the right contrast to define texture and lighting. I was merely commenting on the structure of his drawing. If this is top tier for manga, it seems it doesn't go beyond the basic. I switched to a more western style because a lot of anime stuff seemed stale. But if you really want me to, I can scan some of my stuff and save/post them as non-animated gifs if that's not against the rules.
>>879983
Which is?
>>879280
I'm beginning to see why it takes Murata so long to release chapters.
>>880231
Yeah he's a bit of a perfectionist
>>880226
>Basic
Mfw this shit right here is done by hand, yes anon please enlighten us
Why post ant size files you fucking faggots?
>>880226
>If this is top tier for manga, it seems it doesn't go beyond the basic.
I don't know much about manga or anime, but something that really stands out to me is how you think something at a high level doesn't have basic elements.
Anything at a high level is built of it's basic components and is only as strong as it's weakest one. No matter how good your drawings become, just remember that you are it's weakest component, please stop insulting people with more talent than you.
(If you need any of this explained more in-depth let me know. You've made it rather apparent you might need it.)
>>880305
How am I supposed to tell that's the outcome from OP's clip? Aside from the line quality (and maybe the hip/leg area), it's what I would expect any 17 year old interested in japanese art to be able to do.
>>880388
Man, I get the fact that if you can't draw a circle or other geometric shapes, you can't do much else. And I've seen some simple shapes put together in a beautiful way just because the line quality was that elegant. Maybe it was my fault for judging a clip that makes it look like he's struggling with the construction of the head. I'm not trying to say anyone drawing that is bad, but the video doesn't showcase anything particularly remarkable compared to stuff I've seen. I'm not trying to insult your favorite artist(s) or anything. Here's a quick sketch by one of my favorite animatiors Glenn Keane.
Another Keane drawing.
>>880388
Also yea I'm interested in learning more. I'm about to do some drawabox stuff, wince it's heavily based off viscom. I definitely need to go back and practice some basics. namely line quality and perspective.
>>880658
Read the filename lolwutthefuck
>manga
>art
>>880658
And yet we got that CG abortion.
>>881369
>posting without knowing a shit
>>879726
This post is fucking hilarious.
god damn , didn't take long to turn this thread to shit
congratulations
The fucking speed
>>879726
>That's some "How to draw manga" tier art.
>hurr I have never seen an early stage drawing before
>>881463
holy hell that takes some mad skill to do that that fast
>>881463
I guess she needs to be that fast to meet her deadline considering the amount of detail she puts in her manga.
>>881463
who dis
>>881468
Holy shit that's fast!
>>881463
What kind if pencil is that?
>>881795
>pencil
>>881721
Kaoru Mori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBC9bA0vKDM&list=PL9A855710205B3C8A&index=4
>>881795
That's a brush pen
>>881795
number 2 pencil
>>882957
Hard?
>>882978
Yes, hard as my cock.
>>883009
In numbers?
>>881382
Don't you dare to talk shit about Tangled, you fucking faggot.
>>883019
It's hard 4 you.
>>883026
you are big guy
>>879726
i am on your side. I dont care who the guy in OPs webm is, if you have any sense for art you can see that he's fucking unskilled and that his art is shit.
>no anatomy knowledge
>no linecontrol, no weight to lines
Seriously, first thing you realize when imrpoving your art is that erasing is for fucking retards who don't know shit
>>879978
>ignorance is pointed out
But he's right, it's really shit
>>883053
This.
It is all shit until inked and finalized. That is how it works.
>>879844
Holy shit, is there a high quality version of that?
>>883024
It was horrid and the fact you think it wasn't means you have the shitiest taste on this board.
>>883164
Your mom's pussy is horrid, yet your dad still had the balls to penetrate it so that you could be born.
>>883324
You do realize you're supposed to be at least 18 to browse 4chan right?
>>883326
Oh, pardon me, you grown up man.
>>883049
I hope you are kidding
>>880664
I get that he used the second one to help with the third drawing, but what was the point of the first one?
The fuck is going on in this thread
>>880658
Back pedal harder you fuckin cuck
Welll, this thread has gone to shit.
>>883509
failed artists are notoriously prickly, just look at /ic/.
>>883049
lmao
>>883413
The first was the initial sketch. He needed to push the pose more to get the feeling he wanted so he used it as a reference of the type of pose he wanted but MORE.
>>880664
As an artist I understand your passion for the subject.
But you should really learn to just not knee jerk so badly to a anime/manga artist, it seriously just makes you sound like a tool. Especially when you're just seeing a small clip of a skilled artist working on just basic construction.
Keep the passion burning, but temper it with attentiveness.
To be honest you should have just started posting the Glenn Webms, they're great content that I personally haven't seen posted here before, and would have probably sparked way more honest and helpful discussion.
I mean there's going to be enough people who have never picked up a pencil who will take time to shit talk anything related to anime, just because it's anime, no need to add to it when you've got good content and a passionate understanding of art to give.
>>883082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_oWZUVI2k4
>>881706
Major manga artists have many, many assistants that do the grunt work. It's the P.P. Reubens approach where the various assistants will do almost everything based upon the artist's rough layouts and the artist will come in and do the important things like characters. That's how they can keep their schedules. Even basic looking artwork like Tezuka's had scores of assistants working long hours every single day to meet deadlines.
>>884637
All of that talent, and he wastes it doing moe.
>>884640
all of this time and you waste it on 4chan.
>>884643
>>884646
i am surprised it took you less than 2 minutes
>>881468
that window is triggering me
>>884643
Time =/= talent, dude.
>>884640
If I had the talent, I would totally do 2hu too, if you know what I mean.
>>884712
practice nigga. lots and lots of practice.
>>879726
I hope for your sake you're trolling
>>888783
I don't believe this for a second.
>>884662
lol ikr
>>879927
Haha, you're a fuckin' idiot.
>>888785
Dude that's fucking beautiful
>>879726
go back to /ic/, faggot
>>881468
why did he flip it?
seeing all these webms makes me want to draw
do these guys use special pencils and sharpeners
I'm assuming the pencil has to be pretty strong and sharp at all times
>>889027
The materials you use are important, but not as important as practicing, just read loomis or any good drawing book, grab a pencil and a piece of paper and try to practice what you reed
ITT:
muratafags replying to bait
>>888785
holy shit talk about beauty of the arts that gave me goosebumps up until the end
>>889037
I will never be as good as these guys and I don't plan to try
I have other creative hobbies already but on a whim I just want to take the same material as these guys and try to do what they do and see what comes out
and then after that I may take up doodling in my spare time every now and then because I've been looking for a nice new simple thing to do when there's nothing better
so do you know what type of pencils / sharpeners they use?
even if I end up never going out and buying them I'm interested to know what they are and what the difference between regular pencil / sharpeners is for curiosity's sake
>>889052
not that anon, but artfag here.
idk what brands other artists use, staedtler, prismacolor, faber castell, and koh-i-noor are all good pencil brands. main differences are quality of materials and craftsmanship, plus a wider variety of hardnesses for shading and layout. sharpeners don't really matter much as long as you get one that has a metal housing. the plastic housing ones are too flexible and make for choppy sharpening. staedtler and some other brands also make erasers and sharpeners. honestly staedtler has never let me down as a brand. I would imagine a decent percentage of artists use some of their stuff.
as for paper, if you want to do doodling, you will want a sketchbook. the ones that are bound like a real book are great, but I also like the spiral ones. as long as it's acid free, the paper should last quite a while. drawing paper is also thicker and stronger than regular paper and can stand up to a lot of abuse/erasing. for a serious drawing you may want illustration board or bristol board which is even thicker. canson, strathmore, and arches are good paper brands.
artists are kinda particular about what they use. one artist might look down on some of the brands I've mentioned, and another might swear by them. hell, I've spent how many thousands of hours doing watercolour and still am using the 1/2" flat brush I bought for my first wc class. anyway you can find this stuff in pretty much any hobby store.
>>889020
probably some hand movement he needed to use which he couldn't do with his dominant hand
>>889020
>>889020
Artfag here, typically you flip the canvas to check how the work is progressing and to get strokes that you normally couldn't do as well with the hand you're using to draw with. The new view on it will highlight mistakes that you would have otherwise missed. It can be a bit of a bastard to do a lot of work and then realize that say the eye is slightly higher than it should be.
>>880658
Glen Keane YES
Anyone got webms of Kim Jung Gi doing his thing? That guy's crazy good.
>>879545
Thank you, I've been having trouble drawing due to depression, but this might just help.
>>889194
so like how often do they sharpen it?
The reason I'm asking is this
the last time I remember drawing was in grade 8
up until grade 8 I had always used the HB 2 or whatever pencil it is you write with to do my drawings and doodles, keep in mind I wasn't an artfag, just a regular kid whose homework occasionally required drawing of somekind, and who doodled every now and then
Anyway it was in grade 8 I switched to mechanical pencils for writing and found them a lot nicer
So it follows I used my trusty mechanical pencil for my next drawing assignment and holy shit I was blown away
something about being able to draw such thin lines turned me from a sloppy poppy to a picasso
I still don't quite understand what it is about thin lines that makes such a difference but when I finished that assignment I was convinced all artists used mechanical pencils
To shorten things up a bit I never drew again after that but still realized artists don't use mechanical pencils, but have always wondered how sharp they keep their pencils, and is there a place for mechanical pencils in art, because surely there are times when you need to draw very fine details, and it seems simpler to use a mechanical pencil for those than to keep sharpening your pencil over and over
>>889643
Artists use pretty much anything to make art from shitty stuff to expensive stuff. It really depends on the artist. All that matters is the control over your medium and the final result.
>>881468
This reminds me so much of Howls Moving Castle
>>879457
nice
>>883611
no wonder why he's stealing art styles instead of creating his own.
fucking amateur tier artist
>>880301
>perfectionist
more like retard/shit-artist
>>880664
nice, who's this?
>>881706
who's she? what's her manga?
>>883026
kek
>>888786
geesus, please tell me this have a youtube sauce
>>888803
Why? It is just a bunch of squibs in plaster going off. I'm surprised more of the plaster didn't fall away.
>>884712
Talent only gets you so far. Plenty of children prodigies cease to amaze once they become adults because they stop practicing.
3-4 hours a day of bullshitting on 4chan could turn you into an expert at a skill in a few years if you dedicated it to something. That's 21-28 hours a week, which is a more intense work load than all but some of the most technical degrees. Pre-law is only 19.
>>888880
If I remember correctly, in the full video, this man has actually competed in competitions on drawing the perfect circle.
>>901988
How intriguing, I just found that on a board but now I'm curious.
>>883611
Forget it lol, It's obviously bait.
>>901458
>Tfw no 3d printed waifu
>>881463
>the speed
They basically have drawn the same thing over and over again so it's really easy to visualize and reproduce.
>those normies being impressed with shit
kek
>>888785
Someone should tack the chicken being shot with a shotgun to the end of this.
>>884643
I SHOULD BE FUCKING SEWING MAN
>>889643
theres like 6 different types of pencils, some are bolder than others and dull faster than others, i dont remeber exclty thename of them but HB is one of those
>>902464
shoo! go back to /ic/
>>879844
yeah nice to end the clip like 2 seconds before it really ends
>>893994
A Bride's Story by Kaoru Mori. The story is meh, but the art is god-tier.
>>906288
Pretentious faggots like those are common among all fields of human knowledge.
Engineers are the worst IMO.
>>888880
I had an Asian maths teacher that did this exact thing a couple times.
>>908705
>>908890
>i'll never learn how to draw anime style
That's actually a good thing, you may form real talent.
>>908957
Considering how bad the west is at drawing everything these days I doubt that.
>>906727
Except engineers actually have value to them.
>>889661
The pencils range from 8h(the hardest lead) to 8b ( thr softest or boldest) H is usually used for line work and the harder it is the finer the detail; B is more for shading Hb is an even mix of both
>>879726
That's an "I took a semester course of Drawing I at my community college and I think I know more than you" tier post.
If this is you, please stop and learn some actual art skills before wasting too much time shitposting on imageboards.
>>881407
>full of shit
here's your (You) desperate fuck
>>908705
Lefties ftw
Mark Crilley on youtube is a fantastic artist in manga style and western style too. He does time lapses and then posts a separate video on how to draw it. -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNnKP62Y4lI
>>894009
Looks like one of this guy's but I'm not sure
https://www.youtube.com/user/PESfilm/videos
>>888880
I had a teacher in middle school who could do that shit.
>>884640
You've clearly never invested time in creating anything. If you had, you would know that a wide range of skills exercises itself over a wide range of subjects. This guy has obviously spent a lot of time studying traditional anatomy, perspective and shading. I can promise you he draws much more than moe.
Yes, I am mad.
>>879280
that eraser is so effective wtf
>>908950
>takes decades of practice to draw a circle
you must be high as fuck bro
>>908705
>hidari is his handle because leftie
Mind fucking blown
>>883164
The animation was probably the best out of any modern cg movie you fucking mongoloid.
>>902406
Not the same thing, same subject (faces/people in general). Go look up Kim Jung Gi on youtube, while he does have subjects he repeats (he does alot of tigers) he can draw any of these things from any angle and perspective precisly because he has drawn it a million times and understands it. That's the point of art. It might be easy for them now, but the crazy amount of work for it to become easy is the hard part.
>>879726
>"manga tier art"
>triggers weebs
I like you anon
>tfw you keep practicing but you're still nowhere near "good"
Maybe some day.
Surely all of this practice will pay off.
>>908957
Burn
>>906506
thanks anon
>>908705
Drawing lame weeb girls over and over is not impressive.
>>888803
Vhils, a portuguese artist
To all who act like Manga and Anime are really hard to draw or a hallmark of artistic talent:
It's an animation style that was specifically created for making films. There isn't a lot of detail in the drawings because that would make the technique take to long for animating a whole movie.
It is not complicated to draw a single frame and it is not supposed to be. The hard part is drawing consecutive pictures. Of course a single image still takes practice and most of the people complaining about it ITT can't draw for shit, but there are a million other styles that take more skill. If you think about starting to draw yourself I would recommend starting with very basic sketches of actual people, so you can get the proportions and shading right. If you can draw a "realistic" style you will also easily be able to adapt to anime, vice versa it is more complicated.
Holy shit the one guy who talked shit about Murata is just on damage control this entire thread it's fucking hilarious
>>893997
>geomAtry
God I hate how current schooling is so poor at teaching even the most basic ideas in artwork.
Art does not depend on time it takes to make in order to earn merit (unless its on an autistic scale, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXbQw0rE5UE). That being said, not all animu is art, just like most drawings aren't artistic inclined because they have mostly no depth!!! Drawing and any other form of art requires no talent! It is a mechanical skill, you can learn it. To perfect it it sure takes years and years of practice in a technical level, but most artists understand that it is autistic to try to achieve accuracy instead of content!
Drawing has multiple aspects to it: lost/found lines, shading etc and how the artists CHOOSES to USE in a CONTEXT of CREATIVE IMPLICATIONS, it will be more and more valued the more THOUGHT the artist has put to his work in order to convey his SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATIONS of his subject.
stop being fucking idiots, you load of cucks.
>>893997
worst torus ever
>>884662
>just the window
>>879545
or... you could learn to do containers for porpotion. perspective and position, and think twice before you put another line, don't erase, use a darker pencil when needed, sounds like my teacher, but he was right, is practicing anyways, suffer in the dojo...
>>937817
Awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBeBevq8SM4
You guys should probably take a look to this youtube channel, this guy is good.
>>902184
Why? If you really want to print waifus the printers are pretty cheap and using them is easy as shit. No need to make models since you can find a ton of them online.
>>888880
Holy shit dude.
>>927174
>being an edgy twat
>triggering get it like tumblr haha
I like ya annen... hahahah!
>the amount of pretentious niggers in this thread
Holy shit faggots
>>937780
Content is important, sure, but overemphasis on content over form leads to hollow symbolism slipping by and turns art into nothing more than a way for the rich to claim superiority. "achieving accuracy instead of content" is no worse than achieving content instead of accuracy--after all, content without form is nothing more than a vague sentiment you cannot convey to anyone. Art is not merely philosophy. That's why we have philosophy.
>>937780
>butthurt he studied something useless
>>879726
This guy knows whats up.
Whats so interesting about a vague shitty doodle that isnt even fleshed out, either make the video longer, or find something good to post.
>>942828
Battle me
>>942862
Are you sure kid? Im the best pencilier on my side of the street, excluding Marks house, you dont want to mess with me.
>>942870
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at FZD School of Design, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret concept art jobs at Hollywood, and I have over 300 featured images on CA. I am trained in PS filters and I’m the top illustrator in the entire US art scene. You are nothing to me but just another blob of color. I will smudge you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of art directors across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your art career. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can photobash you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in oils, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Photoshop texture brushes and I will use them to their full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit lens flares all over you and you will drown in them. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>937817
>All you need is some coke in your blood and an almighty finger
>>888785
I think I came a little.
But really, smithing is a massive passion of mine I've never been able to practice. Once I get a better paying job I have plans to make a home forge, but even then I don't know where I'd get all the required materials, and I know it would take me years and years of study and practice to make anything even passable, but fuck if I don't love that shit.
>>937815
>Isn't actually making any marks.
>Zooms out to show off, despite not being even finished yet.
I'm having a hard time believing this webm is legit.
>>881463
Why are you normies so impressed by this shit
>>928683
abandon all delusion of thinking of yourself as good familia
even craig mullins is insecure about his art
just have some fucking fun
>>888785
I am in tears.
>>908705
>Add some details
>>908957
if you're incredibly insecure then yes.
but if people like the style why not leave them be. unless you are a narcissist
>>879726
i only came to say this guy is right, kek at all these shit-tier manga tracers getting mad who can't do anything beyond pre-rendered bullshit. "artist" in OP's gift has a long way to go
>>937815
>Saw an artist at a TED talk suffer from a nerve disease that made him unable to stop shaking his hand from doing this type of artwork for years
>He still does it, except instead of working on controlled small to medium canvases he has to work on walls twice his size to negate the hand shake
>>944167
Listen here you little shit, that's literally just millions of dots, you don't see shit for the first hour of poking at the paper. Pen Pointillism. Has another name but I can't be bothered to remember. As I recall that piece is something like 70 hours in.
>>921844
Perspective and shading yes, anatomy no. There's a reason they all look exactly the same.
>>908957
>anime style
What is that?
https://youtu.be/9FmBV8ienaM
>>946927
What an imbecile.
>>952810
He is talking about drawing done in the style of anime, cmon this isn't a difficult concept to grasp.
>>951028
>Anatomy no.
The reason they all look the same is a stylistic decision.
>>935193
OHH watch out this big guy knows what's up.
stop calling something/someone weeb if you don't know what a weeb is you fucking retared.
>>879280
wow I was amazed at how rarely really good anime artists erased, but I erase a shitton and I always thought that made me bad. I'm a REALLY big fan of Yusuke Murata. This makes me feel much better about myself as an aspiring artist.
>>888785
does anyone know the music used?
>>954350
You ought to check out his streams sometime, they're really interesting.
>>879280
I hate watching people make art, but i appreciate the final product. There's just no point man.
>>889015
Murata was posted in a thread there recently. They seemed to like it.
>>952836
boobies????
>>881468
That's some serious witchcraft skills right there. Amazing!
>>881463
Not that impressive
>>879280
>>879280
>>879280
>>894391
I'll have you know I have a phd in memeology
>>881468
i jelly
>>879726
it's a pretty terrible webm, honestly, but Murata is legendary.
>>884712
it is, actually. It's almost exactly time = talent.
>>954697
https://youtu.be/XOl7qeEiM6A
>>879280
>this sucks, who is this talentless shit?
>looks at file name
What? How?
>>964011
the basics are the basics. I'm impressed by his speed but sketches to be inked/coloured over are never meant to look good or complicated, just accurate.
>>879280
>normies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GHUdUmcr9E
>>937810
>"yeah I hold a doctorate in microsoft paint"
>>937817
fukken bob ross possessing this man
>>881463
holy fug
>>957210
WHAT THE FUCK
>>968356
theo janssen motherfucker
>>937815
I fucking hate stippling
>>955561
You lying shit where?
>>970531
Never mind, read "posted" instead of "was posted".
Too bad I don't know the proper way to encode this.
>>970598
Very impressive stuff, apart from it being complete pedo-bait.
>>971243
Where do you think you are.
>>902473
kill yourself
>>880658
the draw is shit.
>>881795
It's actually a copic marker.
>>937813
so sick
>>926894
No seriously. In this case he really means the same thing. Go read Otoyomegatari and see just how often her head pops up.
She's probably fast and just as talented with the other parts of the art as well. But in this case, it is quite a ton of repetition for the character.
