>>3334480
It was going to have a floppy disc expansion eventually. I wonder if a DVD add-on was ever considered, like the HD-DVD for the Xbox 360.
>>3334490
iomega zip disk is not the same as floppy, retard
>tfw Sony actually considered having DVD support on the original Playstation
Would've racked the price up something fierce and caused them to lag behind but just imagine that timeline.
>>3334542
>iomega zip disk
>not considered floppy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_drive
Go fuck yourself you turd.
>>3334542
What?
>>3334480
I think it wouldn't make a damn difference.
Xbox 360 didn't have Blu-ray support and still succeed.
Dreamcast failed because no one trusted Sega after the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn.
>>3334480
My dreamcast died a while back. Apparently the laser just gave up on life while I was playing Ecco, which is a shame because I never got to beat that game. I sometimes feel like I should get it replaced but I fear that I'll end up with yet another dead system.
>>3334961
>Dreamcast failed because no one trusted Sega after the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn.
But back then when few people had the internet people didn't even know about these consoles.
Do you think that the average normie parent buying a console for Christmas 2000 knew about the Sega CD, 32X, and Saturn and, moreover, contemplated their impact on gaming and Sega's future?
>>3334542
>>3334971
>>3335002
Those "normies" usually ask for recommendations, anon.
By your logic the success of a video game console would be totally random.
>>3334480
>DVD drive prices in 1998
>Sega not a member of the DVD forum like Sony so no discount
>Still have to pay the old DVD licensing fee
>Have to add MPEG-2 decoding hardware to the Dreamcast too
Did ya really want Dreamcast to be $599 US dollars?
>>3334921
Source?
>>3335069
>$599 US Dollars
I read this in Kaz's e3 2006 voice
>>3334971
Floppy drives hold floppy disks slugger. Floppy disks hold data. 1.44MB is the standard DOS formatted capacity of a a 3.5" HD disk. These disks can also be formatted as 1.6MB if you have a drive that supports it. The actual capacity of the disk is more like 2MB. I had larger floppy disks ranging in size from 2.88MB to 240MB.
>>3335002
>But back then when few people had the internet people didn't even know about these consoles.
Wat? It's widely know about Sega's fuck up hurt their hold on the video game market.
BTW, do people really believe the internet was an obscure thing in the 90's / 00's? Come on now.
>>3335313
Not only that but apparently they think people were complete retards before the Internet. I think that's the mindset behind the "omg old people shouldn't be allowed to vote!" complaints that you hear about nowadays. Apparently people couldn't think by themselves before Facebook
>>3335002
Are you being sarcastic? Like, have you never heard of magazines? Television ads? Store displays? Friends? School? There were many other ways to get your videogame info and exposure outside of the internet, not to mention that people did indeed use the internet for videogame things back in the 90s (granted, I was born in '88 and was a little bit late to the internet boat, but still, you can still browse old usenet posts to this day, and how do you think so many people have memories of shit like Pikablu or Mew under the truck?).
I had a friend with both Sega Channel and a 32x, and another friend who got a Saturn back when it was all current. I have a vague recollection that the first friend may have even been considering getting a Sega CD (but my memory is hazy).
>>3334490
Zip disks were the biggest piece of shit ever.
I have floppies that still work but zip disks needed to be formatted after a few uses. They were shit.
>>3334961
Xbox 360 didn't even come fucking close to the PS3 sales
What the fuck are you on about
>>3335478
A-are you retarded?
>>3335478
360 outsold the 3 with about 4 million units worldwide.
>>3335002
I don't think the average parant, who knows nothing about video games, buys a game console unless their kid actually wants it.
>>3334971
Top kek kid. I had floppies that were 1.6, 2.88, 120 and 240. 1.44 is the standard dos formatted capacity of a 3.5 HD disk. The actual capacity of the disk is more like 2MB.
>>3335478
Um, the only place it didn't sell very well was in Japan, of course.
>>3334480
I know they suck, but couldn't it play VCD's?
>>3335478
>>3335591
360 was destroying the PS3 until late in the generation when Microsoft started focusing on the Kinect and PS3 started focusing on finally getting good games. The PS3 pretty much caught up in sales in the last few years.
Wii was outselling them both combined in the early days too, but again it was killed earlier and the 360/ps3 numbers caught up after a few years.
The two common sayings at the time were that for the price of a PS3 you could buy both a 360 and a Wii, and that the PS3 had no games.
>>3335603
>The actual capacity of the disk is more like 2MB.
Yeah, and the actual capacity of a 700mb CD is something like 1.6gb, but so much space is used up for ECC, EFM, and servo tracking bits.
>>3335598
This.
My parents never would have gotten me anything unless I asked.
They didn't know and didn't care about sales, graphics, etc.
Just hey, I wanna make the kid happy.
Obviously we were the ones who had to be in the know.
I seem to remember, in the UK at least, SEGA were giving away a free DVD player if you bought a Dreamcast. Sheer desperation to compete with the PS2 I guess.
>>3335478
lol
>>3335626
>The two common sayings at the time were that for the price of a PS3 you could buy both a 360 and a Wii, and that the PS3 had no games.
>tfw there are people who don't remember this and this is already history
>>3335621
Saturn did
>>3335626
360 and PS3 never caught up to the Wii but they certainly closed the gap, yeah. Supporting their consoles for an additional 3-4 years is responsible for that of course.
Dropping support for the Wii may be Nintendo's second biggest business blunder of all time after going with cartridges for the N64. Nintendo drastically reduced developing software for it before the sales started slowing down. Why? Because they were focusing on 3DS instead and didn't hire extra employees to handle multiple loads.
>>3334480
That thing was the shit
>>3336015
>Supporting their consoles for an additional 3-4 years is responsible for that of course
That data is from 2013, before the Wii was discontinued.
>>3334921
This fuking gif man, makes me think of porn.
>>3335908
Does take in account 360'S that RROD or blew themselves up due to overheating?
>>3335069
Pretty much this, also SEGA didn't think it would be that big of an issue whether they had DVD or not, as the whole "Multimedia CD on my TV" fad of the of the 1st half of the 90's died out, no one was buying a Playstation to play VCD (Although, there are some revisions that let you do that) or look at photo discs, if anything, you'd just have a CD player built into the BIOS.
But then the PS2 came out as not only a game console but also a DVD player, to many it would be their first DVD player. It made it really appealing to many people, and sparked the interest of game consoles that double as DVD players, suddenly every console was expected to play DVDs.
It's kind of sad when I think about it, in a way the Dreamcast was pretty much the last true game Console before everyone expected their console to double as a media player, and eventually be a minimal computer for apps and shit. Hell, even to this day you have people bitching about Wii U not having DVD capabilities (I guess I could understand that to an extent), even when DVD players are at an all time cheap price and everyone has something that plays DVDs in way or another
>>3335313
>BTW, do people really believe the internet was an obscure thing in the 90's / 00's? Come on now.
That's because you think the world is America. Computers were much expensive back then, a thing for the rich or to buy in monthly pays for 3 to 5 years. Having the internet was the same thing, expensive as fuck for a monthly fee.
And back then computers were not a common thing for the kids to play with. It was a working tool mostly.
Man, where I lived(in europe) 2 in 10 had a computer, father's computer in fact. The internet? That slowish shit that didn't had that much information like today? Magazines and newspaper did a better job and were cheaper.
But about the Dreamcast, I had one, I knew someone that also had one because he was a Sega fan like me, but the other schoolmates didn't know about the Dreamcast, nor the Saturn, but they did know "SEGA" the Sega Megadrive that was a big thing here.
Nintendo consoles was this "N64? What is that? Nintendo is Gameboy. What is a SNES dude?". So yeah, everyone had a gameboy, but the other nintendo consoles nobody gave a damn.
PSX was the thing. Everybody had one of those. Or both models.
>>3336020
I'll never stop loving it.
>>3336825
No, it doesn't, which is why I didn't respond to his numbers. That number is artificially inflated by like 30 million.
