how much does one of these things improve the looks of your games? also if I already have a system (american) will a euro a japanese scart work with it. im 100% clueless about this.
>>3316879
RGB Scart vastly improves video quality, far beyond S-Video.
That adapter however is overpriced and doesn't offer too much more than it's 50 dollar counterpart on Amazon.
Waste of money. Go pick up a CRT with component or s-video inputs from CL. They usually give them away for free.
>>3316884
>CRT
Do not do this.
Blurry fucking screens, cathode ray tubes aging and less bright than they used to be, bulky and annoying. "Scanlines," no matter how much retro gamers argue, were NOT meant to be part of the game, and obscured vision.
>>3316894
I think you're even worse that those fags who sit around and circle jerk about CRTs in a thread on this forum. It's how the old games were meant to played.
>>3316912
>It's how the old games were meant to played.
Where are the scanlines?
Where's the blur?
>>3316884
Not always an option. I'm not going to set up a separate TV just to play certain games
>>3316912
Sprites look bright, clear, and vivid on LCD tvs. CRTs blur images, create lines down the screen, have shit resolutions, and introduce all sorts of issues to an otherwise clear and clean image that the system is producing.
>>3316926
I got you, kiddo.
>>3316940
I got you too, young child.
I actually own the original NES games, haha, as Nintendo put them out. I know you're a lil' too youngie.
>>3316940
Whoa... So this is the power of an off brand console...
>>3316879
I own and use one of these all the time. I don't care about personally playing them with scanlines like with a CRT but you can have it add them if you want them looking like CRT's. Picture wise it looks fantastic but you have to get some nice cables if you want your games to look the best. I ordered all mine from https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/ and all have worked flawlessly so far the last year. I had them shipped to the states. Assuming you want RGB which you definitely should you need to get Euroscart to Mini CSYNC adapter and the corresponding cable such as Sony PS SCART (LUMA) which is the best that you can use for Playstation North American consoles. A Nintendo 64 North American console will have to be modded for RGB so keep that in mind. One thing about cables to keep in mind is that the quality of the cable can make a difference and some shitbags don't know what they are doing and you end up getting not true RGB. That is why I would strongly suggest not buying anything of questionable quality like chinese knockoffs you can get for dirt cheap. These nice upscalers are merely half the battle if your trying to get really good picture for games on modern TV's you must have the appropriate cables as well. It requires some research but it paid off for me and I am pleased with the picture quality. There is even presets for the Framemeister you can download if you don't want to figure out how to tweak it for whatever settings you might want.
>>3316932
Sure the consoles outputted a clear image, but not high resolution. So don't pretend that you can magically upscale 240p to 4k on your HDTV.
>>3316951
>240
It's not the number, it's the PROGRESSIVE vs the INTERLACED.
240p scaled perfectly to 720p. It's just pixels. They aren't 3D graphics.
>>3316951
Actually...
You can magically upscale 240p to 4k as long as it's a pre 3D console. 2D Sprites from the NES era and Super NES era look fantastic in 4k.
>>3316950
how would you rate ebay from the seller retro console accessories? I dont really want to buy from retrogamingcables.co.uk if I dont need to. also can you hook up more then 1 console at a time to this thing? I have a ps1 and a genesis.
>>3316958
>Only if you're blind and like super jaggy giant pixels.
It doesn't look any more jaggy than 1080p.
>>3316960
Retro Console Accessories is a fucking godsend. She is the best, period. I buy all of my cables from her.
>>3316960
Yes they are great too and have been recommended by others even if I haven't personally used them. Cheers.
>>3316961
Ignoring scaling artifacts doesn't mean they don't exist.
>>3316976
Now that I think about it you can get some kind of "switcher" to have multiple consoles hooked up as RGB so if your willing to buy ANOTHER accessory then yes you can although theirs another bit of research you will need to look into. A good channel that talks about all this retro stuff is youtube channel "My Life in Gaming."
>>3316982
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvtp7mH0Cdq8FQUxcjDq0Q
I remember them talking about having difficulty at one point finding a good switcher for multiple console hookups and alot of them fudging up some of the quality.
>>3316964
I've heard about that ebay seller from My Life in Gaming but everytime i check her page I get no results on her store.
>>3316998
She de-lists her stuff at night for whatever reason.
Upscalers make the video look good on HDTV's. They also introduce a shitload of input lag if you're using anything other than a framemeister.
Best options are just CRT, get a cheaper upscaler if you're trying to capture for streaming or youtube.
>>3316879
I bought one of these after my bvm died and pretty much use it exclusively. While it doesn't look exactly like a good crt I think it's the best alternative and I personally can't play these games without the heavy scan lines which my bvm had. I still thing if you're on a budget you're fine hunting down a consumer Trinitron. Pic is of my duo r running on the mini
>>3317048
No shit? No wonder, I've always checked at night which is why I ended up going with https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/. Wish I had known that sooner oh well.
>>3316883
>RGB Scart vastly improves video quality, far beyond S-Video.
not really, no. They give slightly sharper colour, that's about it. I couldn't tell the difference between S-Video and RGB on my Saturns.
>>3317090
Depends on the system. S-Video on the Saturn is great. S-Video on the N64 is not.
As for the OP; if you are playing your games on an HDTV, then yes, you must shell for one of those if you want your games to be nice looking and lag free. I play my games on a CRT, but the people complaining about pixelation on an upscaled HDTV could, you know, sit further back. You sit fairly close to a tube because its small.
>>3317090
Uh what kind of RGB was it? That makes a pretty big difference. Probably wasn't at least Luma. Not sure what options the Saturn has though for RGB.
>>3317119
>Uh what kind of RGB was it?
>>3317149
>>look fantastic in 4k.
>Yeahnah.
Do you own a 4k TV?
My guess is, no.
I do.
So kindly, can it, kid.
>>3317090
This is true although there is a difference
Some retarded ass shitposting in here mixed in with one or two people giving advice. Kill yourselves shitposters.
I have a nice little setup with my Amiga monitor and several rgb enabled systems. The Genesis looks especially good. That being said...I actually am just as happy with Retroarch with CRT Royal filtering. I can't imagine bothering with one of these upscalers. Seems like a colossal waste of money, but that's just me.
>>3317101
>S-Video on the N64 is not.
Everything is a blurry mess on the N64 no matter whether you use S-Video or RGB.
>>3317119
>Uh what kind of RGB was it? That makes a pretty big difference. Probably wasn't at least Luma. Not sure what options the Saturn has though for RGB.
official scart rgb cable they sold with the console.
>>3318130
>CRT fag is triggered
Heh
>>3317090
>slightly sharper colour
You're using an old shitty TV with Scart then, probably came standard in Britain.
On a modern LCD, the difference between S-Video and RGB Scart upscaled to 1080p is enormous and very clear.
>>3316883
What is the $50 counterpart?
>>3316932
No, no they do not.
>>3318309
A piece of shit with heavy input lag.
>>3316883
The $50 counterpart has washed out colors and tons of input lag. It's a meme product.
The Framemeister costs about 2x what I think it's worth, but given the alternatives they kind of have command of the market.
>>3316884
I like CRTs but they are very big and heavy, and eventually they're going to die. Most people won't always be able to have a CRT handy all the time, and if I ever have to downsize it's quite possible that my collection my CRTs are going to have to go.
The future of retro console gaming is going to be upscalers for HDTVs. It's not the perfect solution, but I don't see anyone rushing to start manufacturing CRT monitors for gamers again. The market is too niche for the kinds of quantities they'd have to produce for them to be affordable, and most people wouldn't be interested because flat screens are so much more convenient and can be manufactured many times bigger.
>>3318379
To be fair, Atari games always look like shit unless you do an RGB mod. The system had very poor video output because it was designed for RF signals, and they never foresaw that people would need a better quality image than what you could send over RF.
>>3319214
The Framemeister has too much input lag as well. Call me when there is none.
>>3316879
>XRGB
Save your pennies and look into the OSSC instead.
http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php/OSSC
>>3319287
theres like less than 2 frames worst case scenario, try harder troll
>>3319227
That's a PC Engine screenshot, hombre.
>>3318219
>You're using an old shitty TV with Scart then, probably came standard in Britain.
Panasonic Viera TX-P42G10E, actually.
>>3319291
Completely different units.
>>3319287
I could go into excruciating detail as to why you're wrong but instead I'm just going to recommend people that get Framemeisters(or any upscaler really) is to try it on multiple televisions. I have a LG 1080p tv I've had since like 2009 or so that gets practically NO lag at all when using, but a newer LG I have has a lot of lag.
>>3319287
Just stop man you obviously have no clue what your talking about.
